July 13, 2016 
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July 13, 2016 [00:00:22] <kaelthas> mparillo, no, I was reading the Arch Linux wiki article on VirtualBox.[00:00:41] <kaelthas> I was told to read there for anything I need to do, since Manjaro Linux is based on Arch Linux.[00:05:07] *** kaelthas <kaelthas!~kaelthas@unaffiliated/kaelthas> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:06:55] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:07:46] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p54996649.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:09:16] *** Chevelle <Chevelle!~Chevelle_@c-69-138-157-46.hsd1.ky.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:09:43] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B208874.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:18:53] *** Klaatu <Klaatu!~me@pool-72-89-214-20.nycmny.east.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:19:44] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:20:11] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[00:20:31] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:21:12] *** Klaatu <Klaatu!~me@pool-72-89-214-20.nycmny.east.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[00:48:34] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:55:53] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[00:56:43] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has joined #manjaro[00:57:33] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@91.224.149.179> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[00:59:11] <mparillo> Not that I have ever installed VirtualBox on Manjaro, but I always start with the Manjaro docs first. And only then do I try the Arch wiki.[01:00:19] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:02:11] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!~wmedrano@2601:647:4601:ea84:9162:ef3c:4e20:c0c> has joined #manjaro[01:02:54] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!~wmedrano@2601:647:4601:ea84:9162:ef3c:4e20:c0c> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:03:31] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[01:11:30] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@79-74-69-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has joined #manjaro[01:19:32] *** Ace0r <Ace0r!~aceor@184.68.170.134> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:19:58] *** Naologramme <Naologramme!~tix@176.139.185.179> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:20:13] *** Cronanius <Cronanius!5f2163f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.33.99.248> has joined #manjaro[01:21:35] <Cronanius> ahoy there! I seem to have busted my grub. is there a grub-updater or some such that I can use to automagically repair it?[01:21:56] *** Ace0r <Ace0r!~aceor@184.68.170.134> has joined #manjaro[01:22:11] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@ip-192.net-82-216-58.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[01:28:06] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:29:22] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Go past this. Pass this part. In fact, never play this again.)[02:35:10] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hfigjvoxxfatbliz> has joined #manjaro[02:52:23] *** profdoidao <profdoidao!~manjaro-k@186.248.89.90> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:06:22] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[03:08:03] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891352.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[03:16:25] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[03:18:58] *** glsmaxx_ <glsmaxx_!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:24:00] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[03:27:23] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@user-36c5b4e.cable.mindspring.com> has joined #manjaro[03:28:37] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[03:36:38] *** 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seconds)[03:58:52] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[03:59:10] *** pineapple_ <pineapple_!~pineapple@cpe12-75.sweetwaterhsa.com> has joined #manjaro[03:59:55] <pineapple_> I just wish everyone very nice day :-)[04:00:34] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:03:00] *** ravenow <ravenow!~ravenow@217.107.125.35> has joined #manjaro[04:06:15] <pineapple_> ravenow, I have to go so you make sure that everyone behaves :-)))[04:07:07] *** pineapple_ <pineapple_!~pineapple@cpe12-75.sweetwaterhsa.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:07:27] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[04:11:14] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@118.194.194.106> has joined #manjaro[04:11:45] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[04:13:35] *** Manjaro-kde5-Lwr 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I can mate :)[04:43:48] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891352.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:52:55] *** eduqu <eduqu!~eduqu@p2003004544761700AFF251B7E67FC48C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[04:53:03] <eduqu> heyho[04:53:13] <day|flip> hello[04:53:43] *** eduqu <eduqu!~eduqu@p2003004544761700AFF251B7E67FC48C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:56:02] *** eizua <eizua!~eizua@122.2.98.233> has joined #manjaro[04:57:09] *** Manj-811-Xfce2 <Manj-811-Xfce2!~ly@189.243.222.250> has joined #manjaro[04:57:41] *** Chevelle <Chevelle!~Chevelle_@c-69-138-157-46.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:58:43] *** Manj-811-Xfce2 <Manj-811-Xfce2!~ly@189.243.222.250> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:59:08] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:02:01] *** SPF|Cloud 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gnome 3.12 / Applications & Desktop Environments / Arch Linux Forums[09:54:57] <Condor> you can check your locale by typing in terminal: locale[09:55:10] <Condor> make sure all of those are correctly set[09:56:04] <Condor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1840909[09:56:05] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/z6Qpr5] [lubuntu] Cannot fix Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited[09:59:19] *** Avengence <Avengence!~avengence@94.142.238.108> has left #manjaro ("PART")[10:00:51] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:06:40] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:07:59] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@ip-146.net-89-2-248.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[10:15:49] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[10:20:20] *** ringo32 <ringo32!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has 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<bolvary> peetaur2: dmesg brings up a few errors for ali1535_smbus and ali15x3_smbus[10:43:21] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B208340.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[10:44:05] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[10:44:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Lukimya[10:46:01] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@ip-146.net-89-2-248.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[10:46:09] <peetaur2> bolvary: sounds not relevant to the dbus issue...but you could pastebin and people could take a look[10:46:18] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@ip-146.net-89-2-248.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[10:47:03] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[10:49:00] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@ip-146.net-89-2-248.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:49:18] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has joined #manjaro[10:49:30] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@ip-146.net-89-2-248.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[10:50:27] <bolvary> peetaur2: I have manjaro from netinstall and added lxde, so it might be a bug as FatalException pointed out (from 2011)[10:51:31] <peetaur2> yes FatalException is very helpful and deserves all the credit, not like poor Condor[10:52:16] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@85.185.213.213> has joined #manjaro[10:52:22] <manjaro-kde5> hi[10:52:39] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:52:45] <manjaro-kde5> I can not install narton[10:52:58] <manjaro-kde5> It show me this error[10:53:00] <manjaro-kde5> missing package metadata[10:53:24] <manjaro-kde5> Totally this massage:[10:53:29] <manjaro-kde5> loading packages...[10:53:30] <manjaro-kde5> error: missing package metadata in /home/gug/Downloads/Natron-2.1.1-Linux-x86_64bit-portable.tar.xz[10:53:32] <manjaro-kde5> error: '/home/gug/Downloads/Natron-2.1.1-Linux-x86_64bit-portable.tar.xz': invalid or corrupted package[10:53:33] <manjaro-kde5> Command finished with errors![10:53:53] <peetaur2> manjaro-kde5: this is a tar.xz, not a pkg.tar.xz[10:54:08] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[10:54:17] <manjaro-kde5> what shlould I do to make it pakage[10:54:18] <manjaro-kde5> ?[10:54:42] <peetaur2> so do it like this instead: mkdir natron; cd natron; tar xf ../Natron-2.1.1-Linux-x86_64bit-portable.tar.xz[10:55:01] <peetaur2> what's your goal, just to run this thing?[10:55:30] <peetaur2> then you don't necessarily need a package. Making a package is the cleanest way to install software system wide (for all users), but you can run it from your home, or even put it in /opt/ for all users.[10:56:28] <peetaur2> making a package is more work... not sure what to point you to do it[10:56:59] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:59:04] <ringo32> !aur natron[10:59:04] <FatalException> natron-bin - Video compositing software similar to Nuke and Adobe After Effects -- version 2.0.5-1 - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/natron-bin[11:00:05] * peetaur2 wonders why he didn't think of AUR[11:00:16] <ringo32> :)[11:04:06] <manjaro-kde5> now what should I do?[11:04:24] <peetaur2> manjaro-kde5: install yaourt, and then use it to install natron-bin[11:04:30] <peetaur2> pacman -S yaourt[11:04:55] <peetaur2> sudo -u someunprivilegeduser yaourt -aS natron-bin[11:05:30] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[11:05:46] <peetaur2> (I prefer a separate user than my own... in case a script deletes things in my home; most people just run it as their own user; the -a is optional...is supposed to be redundant but sometimes needed)[11:05:57] <ringo32> yaourt natron[11:06:05] <ringo32> kde should have yaourt onboard[11:06:15] <ringo32> ohhhhhhhhh[11:06:17] <ringo32> ooops[11:07:04] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~tix@176.139.185.179> has joined #manjaro[11:07:07] <NaoTix> Hi[11:07:28] <manjaro-kde5> can I install it from that file[11:07:44] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has joined #manjaro[11:07:47] <manjaro-kde5> ?[11:07:54] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yjkhhcjzbbttwtgh> has joined #manjaro[11:07:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[11:08:48] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[11:09:44] <elcaven> is there a place where i can see error logs of trying to log into a desktop session?[11:10:30] *** Manj-811-Xfce3 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of i3 on Manjaro KDE[11:14:48] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~stuart@199.116.226.109> has joined #manjaro[11:14:57] <ceskyDJ> Ok, thanks[11:17:25] *** ceskyDJ <ceskyDJ!25ddfd3c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.221.253.60> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[11:19:45] <elcaven> peetaur2: cant seem to find anything useful in /var/log[11:20:04] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.187.156.131> has joined #manjaro[11:21:15] <peetaur2> I have openrc instead of systemd, and I have syslog-ng instead of rsyslogd... and I see it in logs:[11:21:16] <peetaur2> Jul 13 11:20:39 peter kcheckpass[20252]: pam_unix(kde:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=1000 euid=0 tty=:0 ruser= rhost= user=peter[11:21:28] <peetaur2> I tested with the KDE plasma5 screen locker with bogus password[11:21:36] <peetaur2> and that was auth.log[11:22:02] <peetaur2> if you have no syslog installed and rely on the systemd binary thing, then use journalctl to find it[11:23:54] <manjaro-kde5> ( Unsupported package: Potentially dangerous ! )[11:23:56] <elcaven> alright thanks, ill go through journalctl[11:24:04] <manjaro-kde5> It show this error[11:24:13] <manjaro-kde5> When I use that code[11:27:08] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.187.156.131> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:28:05] <peetaur2> madknight: that's normal for AUR... and it's just the same warning you should get when using some random tgz you downloaded, except the AUR will also checksum it to verify it[11:28:10] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@pc-46.ffdi.hr> has joined #manjaro[11:28:27] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@pc-46.ffdi.hr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:29:18] <peetaur2> it means manjaro/arch does not officially provide this package building script, so they don't take responsibility if it has bugs that delete files, eg. like with this steam bug https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671, or if it purposely has malware[11:29:19] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/T2kYVI] (link was unresponsive: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671,)[11:30:00] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[11:31:50] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[11:34:28] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:37:21] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-puqwvnlqpbdmtlsg> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[11:42:59] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[11:43:04] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[11:44:57] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[11:45:26] <elcaven> as far as i can see it does authenticate me into the i3 session but before that it gives this error 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I just installed manjaro, and I'm getting some weird tearing on rendered text (though not inside of programs like my browser). I was thinking to change my nvidia drivers. Is there an explanation of which I might want to use?[13:47:10] *** amendo <amendo!~amendo@unaffiliated/amendo> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:49:26] <NanoSector> !pkg hornet[13:49:27] <FatalException> I had no results for that query.[13:50:26] <NanoSector> Cronanius, you mean nvidia and nvidia-340xx and stuff?[13:50:36] <NanoSector> Cronanius, what's your GPU?[13:54:12] *** Cronanius <Cronanius!5f2163f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.33.99.248> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:55:50] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@2a02:c7d:37f:b600:38cb:44b5:7eae:8f37> has joined #manjaro[13:57:02] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@2a02:c7d:37f:b600:38cb:44b5:7eae:8f37> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:57:35] *** Manj-1509-Lxde <Manj-1509-Lxde!~manjaro@p5B2C1DC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:57:36] *** Manj-1509-Lxde2 <Manj-1509-Lxde2!~manjaro@p5B2C1DC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:57:38] *** Manj-1509-Lxde3 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*** manj-1603-Lxde3 <manj-1603-Lxde3!~manjaro@cpc93486-hatf8-2-0-cust192.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[15:02:37] *** manj-1603-Lxde2 <manj-1603-Lxde2!~manjaro@cpc93486-hatf8-2-0-cust192.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:02:46] *** manj-1603-Lxde3 <manj-1603-Lxde3!~manjaro@cpc93486-hatf8-2-0-cust192.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:02:52] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@cpc93486-hatf8-2-0-cust192.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:03:49] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:09:03] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[15:09:56] <berm> Hello[15:10:09] <berm> Anyone has an idea how to restart my network service?[15:11:47] *** litr <litr!b98d1b8e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.185.141.27.142> has joined #manjaro[15:12:03] <berm> without rebooting :)[15:13:30] <litr> Hi there, somebody know what to do when having on the desktop screen?[15:14:50] <Lowl3v3l> berm, systemctl restart?[15:15:57] <berm> systemctl?[15:16:24] <litr> I will check it[15:17:14] <berm> [bermdingetje@berm-pc ~]$ systemctl networkmanager.service restart[15:17:57] *** manjaro-web|3673 <manjaro-web|3673!b2949a9e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.178.148.154.158> has joined #manjaro[15:19:14] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:19:24] <berm> does not work[15:19:26] <berm> not found[15:19:43] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p4FD43CC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:20:07] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p4FD43CC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[15:20:43] *** manjaro-web|3673 <manjaro-web|3673!b2949a9e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.178.148.154.158> has left #manjaro[15:23:14] <litr> Getting a error[15:23:35] <litr> sudo systemctl restart[15:23:35] <litr> Too few arguments.[15:24:23] <peetaur2> count how many args berm suggested, then count how many you used, and the answer shal be revealed.[15:25:12] <litr> rebooting the system didn't helped either. I didn't messed around with the graphic settings / drivers[15:25:13] <peetaur2> (but also he's talking about network and I guess you're not)[15:25:24] *** bolvary <bolvary!~Thunderbi@adsl-62-167-57-4.adslplus.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: bolvary)[15:25:53] <peetaur2> you haven't described the problem enough to know the solution... maybe check /var/log/Xorg.log[15:26:12] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[15:26:16] <peetaur2> and I'm assuming by "having" you meant "hanging"[15:29:47] <litr> Hanging, flickering while scrolling down in firefox and applications on the desktop[15:30:21] <litr> by flickering I mean not like "funky" stuff when your GPU is broke[15:30:33] <litr> but rather black small blocks[15:31:41] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[15:31:53] <litr> http://pastebin.com/1tf3urjc[15:31:53] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/YI2gRI] Possible Spam Detected[15:31:56] <litr> xorg log[15:32:44] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[15:34:41] <peetaur2> litr: please use a non-retarded pastebin, like https://bpaste.net your page says "Your paste has triggered our automatic SPAM detection filter" wtf...my paste? it's not my paste[15:34:42] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/WxqdPz] new at bpaste[15:35:24] <peetaur2> or use clbin which is better for big stuff. cat /var/log/Xorg.log | curl -F 'clbin=<-' https://clbin.com[15:35:25] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/SuBiM0] clbin: command line pastebin.[15:36:45] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@79-74-69-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has joined #manjaro[15:37:04] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has joined #manjaro[15:37:20] <mallowmow> is there any way to snap windows to occupy the screen horizontally? as I can only seem to snap them to the side vertically[15:39:11] *** litr <litr!b98d1b8e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.185.141.27.142> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:39:18] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:39:51] <peetaur2> mallowmow: try middle click or right click on the maximize button[15:40:04] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has quit IRC (Quit: Gonna go ... see later)[15:40:11] <peetaur2> in plasma5, middle is vertical and right is horizontal[15:40:12] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@24.50.241.1> has joined #manjaro[15:41:49] *** litr <litr!b98d1b8e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.185.141.27.142> has joined #manjaro[15:44:05] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[15:46:27] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.12> has joined #manjaro[15:46:42] <litr> true that, pastebin sucks[15:46:43] <litr> https://clbin.com/8sdVD[15:46:44] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Jijvd0] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[15:46:44] <litr> but the most know so far[15:46:48] <litr> *known[15:48:07] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: tmsbrdrs)[15:48:15] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@79-74-69-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[15:48:38] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[15:49:07] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@79-74-69-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has joined #manjaro[15:49:38] <mallowmow> peetaur2: I just find it weird you can't snap it to the top half of the screen without it taking the whole screen[15:49:51] *** ParkerR <ParkerR!ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:50:26] *** ParkerR <ParkerR!ParkerR@znc.withg.org> has joined #manjaro[15:50:27] *** ParkerR <ParkerR!ParkerR@znc.withg.org> has quit IRC (Changing host)[15:50:27] *** ParkerR <ParkerR!ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr> has joined #manjaro[15:53:19] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:53:40] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@24.50.241.1> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[15:54:00] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@24.50.241.1> has joined #manjaro[15:54:07] *** litr <litr!b98d1b8e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.185.141.27.142> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:56:04] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:56:19] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@24.50.241.1> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:57:46] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:58:08] <peetaur2> I don't find it weird just because I never want to do that. I work with things pretty much only full screen or right half (plus focus follows mouse and click does not raise so I can copy things from a half text editor to a full konsole)[15:59:15] *** Cerber <Cerber!~PHP7-0-8-@mail.de02.searchtrends.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:00:06] <elcaven> mallowmow: you can snap it to the top half[16:00:24] <elcaven> in Global Keyboard Shortcuts under System Settings you have the quick tile to the top or bottom, if you are on KDE[16:00:43] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:01:32] <mallowmow> elcaven: within my Global Keyboard Shortcuts, there is only audio volume shortcuts[16:01:36] <mallowmow> I am on KDE[16:02:13] <elcaven> next to KDE Component there is a dropdown menu where you can select System settings[16:02:29] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[16:03:06] <mallowmow> elcaven: ah yes, although there is nothing binded to that I think, how do I bind that to a key or mouse button[16:03:08] <mallowmow> ?[16:03:42] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:04:46] <elcaven> click on whichever one you wanna bind, either the global or the global alternate column[16:05:14] *** Cerber <Cerber!~PHP7-0-8-@mail.de02.searchtrends.eu> has joined #manjaro[16:05:20] <elcaven> then next to custom there should be a button with "none", just click that and then put in whatever key combination you wanna use for it[16:05:41] <LyriCa> hello i ave a networking question, anybody able to help?[16:06:17] <mallowmow> elcaven: ah the options were obscured as the windows wasn't maximised[16:07:04] <mtn> LyriCa: only if you ask your question ;)[16:07:17] <elcaven> they are a bit hard to find sometimes since there are so many of them[16:08:19] <LyriCa> ok[16:08:56] <LyriCa> well mtn; i have a laptop here and i want it to be able to use my pc's nic for better networking between my main rig and the laptop , but idk how to do it[16:09:11] <LyriCa> i have the network manager applet installed btw.[16:09:53] <mtn> LyriCa: is the pc using wifi? is the laptop using wifi? still need lots of details[16:10:26] *** ghvail|wtf <ghvail|wtf!~ghavil@unaffiliated/geekatcomputers> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:10:49] <LyriCa> mtn the laptop is gonna be running on wire just like the main pc[16:11:08] <mtn> LyriCa: does the pc have two ethernet cards?[16:11:19] *** sotram <sotram!~sotram@cblmdm134-228-88-11.buckeyecom.net> has joined #manjaro[16:11:23] <LyriCa> it has the integrated one and a pci nic[16:12:00] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[16:12:09] <mtn> LyriCa: if it has two ethernet cards you can do it, but I can't give you the details. I imagine a net search will show you the way to do it. include network manager in your search terms[16:14:22] <LyriCa> ive been doing that but no luck, just so i can know , is it a bridge that i want ? or a bond or tea?[16:14:26] <LyriCa> team*[16:16:08] <mtn> LyriCa: here, I searched it for you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/359856/share-wireless-internet-connection-through-ethernet[16:16:09] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/RaMfHk] Share wireless Internet connection through ethernet - Ask Ubuntu[16:16:13] <mtn> LyriCa: that looks like it should work[16:16:18] <LyriCa> oh wait! , i did something right, i was able to ping my main pc from my laptop using its nic[16:16:34] <LyriCa> and btw mtn im not involving wireless in anyway[16:16:42] <LyriCa> i connected my laptop via my pc's nic[16:16:45] <mtn> LyriCa: I understand that ;)[16:16:46] <LyriCa> im able to ping it[16:16:56] <LyriCa> :D[16:17:25] <mallowmow> also, is there a way to switch between open windows, using the keybaord?[16:17:51] <mtn> mallowmow: alt+tab works for almost all desktops[16:18:09] *** tuurtyret <tuurtyret!~tuurtyret@n8m8k297etehgfcar-3.v6.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[16:18:29] <mallowmow> awesome, thanks mtn[16:18:34] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has joined #manjaro[16:18:56] <mtn> LyriCa: oh, I see that link had wireless in it, though it might still show you the way[16:20:54] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@79-74-69-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:21:55] <LyriCa> i did it ![16:22:04] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-cbhkugqgdbwuetcf> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:22:06] <LyriCa> network speed has greatly increased[16:22:13] <mtn> LyriCa: great[16:25:57] <LyriCa> oh nicdee[16:25:59] <LyriCa> ncie[16:26:04] <LyriCa> thanks anyways mtn[16:26:08] <LyriCa> i appreciate[16:26:21] <mtn> LyriCa: you are welcome, anyway[16:27:33] *** thenewone1 <thenewone1!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has joined #manjaro[16:27:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v thenewone1[16:29:38] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[16:30:09] *** linux-dream <linux-dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[16:31:05] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.12> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:33:36] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: mantra__)[16:33:41] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[16:34:33] *** LyriCa_ <LyriCa_!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[16:34:37] *** LyriCa_ <LyriCa_!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:37:03] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.12> has joined #manjaro[16:38:58] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@145.132.131.160> has quit IRC (Quit: Offline)[16:43:59] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has joined #manjaro[16:44:57] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@5.29.91.215> has joined #manjaro[16:46:47] *** ghavil <ghavil!~ghavil@unaffiliated/geekatcomputers> has joined #manjaro[16:48:14] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@5.29.91.215> has left #manjaro[16:50:09] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:50:15] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.12> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:52:35] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.12> has joined #manjaro[16:53:16] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.12> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:53:17] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has joined #manjaro[16:55:32] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.12> has joined #manjaro[16:56:12] *** Manj-1603-Lxqt <Manj-1603-Lxqt!~manjaro@181.188.81.138> has joined #manjaro[16:56:37] *** Manj-1603-Lxqt <Manj-1603-Lxqt!~manjaro@181.188.81.138> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:58:49] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:59:40] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[17:01:05] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:01:07] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:01:11] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.126.78> has joined #manjaro[17:03:56] <NoirLess> guys. Is anyone know, when next update will be? 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folks , how do i make certain windows appear on certain displays??[18:12:04] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[18:13:01] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[18:15:49] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[18:15:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Lukimya[18:17:26] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[18:18:30] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[18:19:09] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-184-211.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:19:38] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[18:19:41] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:22:01] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[18:22:03] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@fttx-17713615519.usr.predialnet.com.br> has joined #manjaro[18:22:18] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[18:22:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[18:22:20] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:23:04] <GenZai> LyriCa, I don't understand the question[18:23:14] <GenZai> you just drag the window onn the monitor you want[18:23:15] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-191-055.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:23:58] <LyriCa> yeah but i set up an auto start for a program and it keep defaulting on its primary monitor instead of the secondary[18:24:01] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[18:24:11] <LyriCa> i have two programs that i need one on the primary and one on the secondary[18:24:12] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-184-211.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[18:24:59] *** manjaro-web|7624 <manjaro-web|7624!18499a1a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.73.154.26> has joined #manjaro[18:25:15] <manjaro-web|7624> hi[18:25:24] <manjaro-web|7624> wjjj[18:25:27] <manjaro-web|7624> lkekl;f;[18:25:28] <manjaro-web|7624> wfkj;ep[18:25:29] <manjaro-web|7624> qw.;o;plw[18:25:31] <manjaro-web|7624> wmkwj.w[18:25:32] <manjaro-web|7624> ekwl w[18:25:34] <manjaro-web|7624> w,ernrqqe;ir[18:25:35] <manjaro-web|7624> 2e;el,r[18:25:56] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@138.219.51.21> has joined #manjaro[18:25:59] *** manjaro-web|7624 <manjaro-web|7624!18499a1a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.73.154.26> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:26:05] <GenZai> LyriCa, I don't know . For me they seem to reopen where they were when I shutdown[18:26:35] <LyriCa> hm[18:26:36] <LyriCa> i see[18:26:37] <LyriCa> thanks[18:26:54] <GenZai> but maybe there is a setting as you say[18:27:02] <GenZai> I'm a noob so I can't really help :([18:27:37] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@71.122.186.125> has joined #manjaro[18:27:57] *** manjaro-web|8524 <manjaro-web|8524!18499a1a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.73.154.26> has joined #manjaro[18:28:03] <LyriCa> ook[18:28:16] *** thid <thid!~thid@2a00:f41:38ec:c357:f047:1c7f:2ac7:7b62> has joined #manjaro[18:28:23] <manjaro-web|8524> w[18:28:49] <thid> ?[18:28:49] <manjaro-web|8524> ekjijjlj3lwe;[18:28:50] *** manjaro-web|8524 <manjaro-web|8524!18499a1a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.73.154.26> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:30:46] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:191c:8dd4:aae0:cc8> has joined #manjaro[18:31:48] *** gkeen_ <gkeen_!uid37501@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qercgrrrerucgtao> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection 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mirrors unavailable?[18:43:39] <verrlara> Seems like sourceforge is down.[18:45:50] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-89-241-165-60.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[18:45:59] *** chshbh <chshbh!~Avinash@146.196.33.24> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:46:25] <thid> hmmm[18:47:25] *** flipper <flipper!~filip-cin@95.211.168.228> has joined #manjaro[18:48:37] <verrlara> Was hoping to download the bspwm edition or the net edition. ?:/[18:49:53] *** thid_ <thid_!~thid@2a00:f41:389d:c0f:f047:1c7f:2ac7:7b62> has joined #manjaro[18:50:36] <verrlara> Is that possible... w/o source forge being available?[18:51:52] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-13151.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:52:00] *** thid_ <thid_!~thid@2a00:f41:389d:c0f:f047:1c7f:2ac7:7b62> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:52:27] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC311D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:52:39] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-191-055.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:52:39] *** thid <thid!~thid@2a00:f41:38ec:c357:f047:1c7f:2ac7:7b62> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:53:10] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:53:25] <eizua> even the torrent files are on sourceforge[18:53:40] <verrlara> :/[18:53:47] <verrlara> Guess I am stuck then :/[18:54:07] <verrlara> xD god telling me no conversions to manjaro xDDD[18:54:46] *** flipper <flipper!~filip-cin@95.211.168.228> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:55:12] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:55:30] <eizua> verrlara: try here: http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrents&active=0&search=manjaro&&order=3&by=2&pages=2[18:55:30] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/0gq2Ju] Index->Torrents[18:55:39] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:55:58] *** w30 <w30!~Dubal@2601:245:8100:2347::3> has joined #manjaro[18:56:13] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:56:14] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:57:01] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-84-118-20-213.unity-media.net> has joined #manjaro[18:57:35] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:59:34] <verrlara> eizua: Thank you[18:59:52] <eizua> np[19:00:59] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:01:05] <verrlara> Been wanting to grab some files out of the /etc/skel of the bspwm and don't know any other way then to just install it on an sdcard, scp it to my self and then switch back. I love the setup for bspwm manjaro has they did a good job.[19:01:06] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-84-118-20-213.unity-media.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:01:40] <eizua> WM's are different from DE's, right?[19:02:17] <verrlara> Yea window managers do just that manage window x11 environments.[19:03:01] <eizua> but how different are they from DE's? DE's allow you to manage windows, too, don't they?[19:03:15] *** chshbh <chshbh!~Avinash@146.196.33.24> has joined #manjaro[19:03:18] <eizua> never tried a linux distro that's just WM[19:03:36] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[19:03:47] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:04:21] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@190.209.146.61> has joined #manjaro[19:04:42] <chshbh> can anyone help?[19:04:55] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:05:08] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:05:20] <eizua> chshbh: is that about your screen becoming all gray all of a sudden?[19:05:27] <chshbh> yes[19:05:38] <chshbh> that was. i looked up the solution on manjaro forums[19:05:50] <eizua> what happened?[19:05:51] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as vazox[19:05:55] <chshbh> and well now, my terminal is not working as well.[19:06:13] <eizua> so the gray screen is fixed?[19:06:17] <chshbh> nope[19:06:28] <w30> I changed my smb.conf file to a renamed shared directory and I cannot get it to take effect. I tried smbcontrol smbd,nmbd,and windbindd reload-config plus restarted smbd,nmbd, and winbindd.[19:06:31] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[19:06:55] <chshbh> if it helps, whenever i restart the system, my home directory automatically pops up[19:07:16] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@138.219.51.21> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[19:08:34] <eizua> that's certainly odd[19:09:15] <eizua> chshbh: is this what you found on the manjaro forums? https://forum.manjaro.org/t/desktop-became-grey-after-hard-reset/1881/4[19:09:16] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/hju0el] Desktop became grey after hard reset - Technical Issues and Assistance - Manjaro[19:09:28] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:09:55] <chshbh> yes i installed xfdesktop, and it was not working, so i removed it.[19:11:00] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:11:19] <chshbh> also i can not close/minimize any program. i am not sure what is wrong.[19:13:39] <eizua> Not sure what's wrong, either. I'm a bit hesitant to suggest following the steps given in the Github issue here (https://github.com/manjaro/release-plan/issues/51).[19:13:41] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/en6WHL] (link was unresponsive: https://github.com/manjaro/release-plan/issues/51).)[19:13:57] <eizua> Hopefully someone more experienced can suggest something better.[19:14:43] <eizua> chshbh: Did you recently suspend your system before that happened?[19:14:52] <chshbh> yes i think[19:15:51] *** Tiny <Tiny!~GimmeMyMo@113.59.210.125> has joined #manjaro[19:15:58] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@dvz10.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[19:16:10] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[19:16:14] *** Tiny is now known as Guest65345[19:16:21] *** Guest65345 is now known as Tiny-[19:16:32] <Tiny-> hi all[19:16:43] <eizua> chshbh: One of the commenters in the Github issue mentioned trying to run 'xrandr --auto'[19:16:45] <chshbh> its not just the gray scree, i mean how come home directory pops up automatically and right now i can not see the xfce down panel[19:18:14] <chshbh> thanks i brb, trying what you said.[19:18:17] <Tiny-> would anyone here know how to get the latest build of the dolphin-emu installed? I'm new to Arch and Manjaro both and Im not sure how to "add" the dolphin-emu-git thing to get the updated versions[19:19:06] *** chshbh <chshbh!~Avinash@146.196.33.24> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:20:13] <robin0800> tiny its in the AUR[19:20:39] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[19:21:17] <Tiny-> hey robin0800 yes, but I think thats the version from April right? the big release one is from 2 weeks ago[19:21:18] <mike-zal> Tiny-, just use the command: yaourt dolphin-emu-git[19:21:35] <Tiny-> where it moved from v4 to v5 stable[19:21:39] <mike-zal> then follow the instructions in terminal (edit: no, install: yes)[19:21:39] <Tiny-> oh cool[19:21:46] <Tiny-> thanks mike-zal[19:21:57] <Tiny-> I assume this will only get me the latest source code right?[19:22:06] <Tiny-> I still need to build all of this ?[19:22:10] <mike-zal> once the update will show, you will be notified either by pamac updater or octopi, dependently of your DE[19:22:11] <Tiny-> dependencies and what not?[19:22:16] <Tiny-> ahh[19:22:28] <mike-zal> yaourt will take care of it, it will build automatically[19:22:33] <mike-zal> yes, all what you need[19:23:00] <mike-zal> just one tiny command and you're good to go, if there are no make errors....[19:23:33] <eizua> *if*[19:23:37] <mike-zal> not sure if pamac shows AUR updates but octopi does[19:23:49] <mike-zal> yeap, if[19:25:33] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has joined #manjaro[19:25:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v thenewone[19:25:39] <Tiny-> awesome lemme see if I can do this without killing my install[19:25:40] <mike-zal> sadly it's fairly common to come across make error, so be happy only if you get success command at the very end. often you will install all dependencies and then the last part shows error and you're screwed. AUR is great but AUR could be a mess and potential risk to system instalion (update problems - but that can be handled so it's not that bad)[19:26:27] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[19:27:23] <eizua> the good news is, if you do experience something like that, you become more careful the next time :)[19:27:45] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-072-223-209.088.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[19:28:15] <mike-zal> no worries, never saw AUR installation kill a system, but it can make issues during update or mess with your system working. but when you keep that in mind and come across problems, you can uninstall aur packages to see if it helped. so AUR can be blessing and a curse at times. anyway, it's for responsible user that can handle potential issues. luckily lot of major packages that are popular and accessible only through AUR are correc and[19:28:15] <mike-zal> make no troubles[19:28:33] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-180-070.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:28:44] <eizua> yup, so far, no issues on my end[19:29:13] *** chshbh <chshbh!~Avinash@146.196.33.24> has joined #manjaro[19:29:38] <mike-zal> I love AUR, despite the potential risk and from what I see, most people feels the same, so... enjoy AUR. it can be addictive. non arch systems are poor and weird wihout AUR :P[19:29:41] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-13597.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[19:30:31] <chshbh> eizua : I guess, i have messed up my xfce, it is unstable.[19:30:49] <eizua> chshbh: sorry to hear that[19:31:37] <chshbh> "Failed to send D-Bus message"[19:32:06] <eizua> I remember someone mentioning that here earlier, but I can't remember what they did[19:32:51] *** allthings_py <allthings_py!~Avinash@146.196.33.24> has joined #manjaro[19:33:51] <Tiny-> whoos guess that wasn't what I thought it was[19:34:02] <Tiny-> Edit PKGBUILD should be no here right ?[19:34:16] *** chshbh <chshbh!~Avinash@146.196.33.24> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:34:16] *** allthings_py <allthings_py!~Avinash@146.196.33.24> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:35:16] <eizua> chshbh: sorry, I'm stumped[19:35:44] <mike-zal> Tiny-, already said, when asked about edit you say: no[19:35:57] <mike-zal> unless you want to fix errors and know how to do it[19:36:23] <mike-zal> most people have no clue so there is no point of editing it if they have no idea what for[19:36:35] <Tiny-> I hit Y by mistake and its asking me to "Please add $VISUAL to your environment variables" and then asking me to "Edit PKGBUild with" is there a wy I can escape and go back ?[19:36:46] <mike-zal> click enter[19:36:58] <mike-zal> it should open it with nano[19:37:34] <mike-zal> then probably alt+X? not sure, don't use nano so often, there should be hint what key combo is used to exit on the bottom of the screen[19:37:55] <eizua> mike-zal: Ctrl+X[19:37:56] <Tiny-> hmm - apparently running yaourt as sudo is a bad thing[19:38:10] <Tiny-> says here root is not allowed cause of permanent damage etc[19:38:11] <mike-zal> ah yes, ctrl+x, thanks eizua[19:38:12] *** vazox <vazox!~manjaro-k@190.209.146.61> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:38:26] <mike-zal> Tiny-, yaourt must be without sudo[19:38:54] <LyriCa> anybody usesd manjaro on a raspberry pie?[19:38:55] <mike-zal> it will ask you for password if needed later[19:39:26] <Tiny-> mike-zal, yep redoing right now[19:39:52] <Tiny-> what do the numbers highlighted in yellow next to the package name signify?[19:40:06] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:40:44] <mike-zal> you are showed potential packaes and you need to choose some, numers are to point which one.[19:40:45] <Tiny-> like I see dolphin-emu-git 5.0.r27.etc and then in bright yellow (78) (.2.83)[19:41:23] <mike-zal> it's all explained in the screen, read it carefully. it's self explanatory[19:43:56] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:191c:8dd4:aae0:cc8> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:48:40] <w30> I can't get my smb.conf file to reload, What to do?[19:51:53] *** MyPictures is now known as zz_MyPictures[19:52:28] <Tiny-> this is pretty sweet[19:52:44] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[19:53:07] *** thid <thid!~thid@2a00:f41:389d:c0f:f919:f247:9304:7eb0> has joined #manjaro[19:53:26] *** Sailor <Sailor!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[19:53:28] <Tiny-> it's still compiling and what not so I can't really yell success BUT this is miles different from using ubuntu based stuff, you either had PPAs or its off hunting for various frameworks and libraries[19:53:30] <mike-zal> Tiny-, I gather you installed it then?[19:53:35] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:53:41] <anonkun> Hello[19:53:44] <anonkun> how's everything going :)[19:53:49] <Tiny-> most of which you had to find and/or compile yourself[19:53:52] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@71.122.186.125> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:53:57] <Tiny-> hallo anonkun[19:53:59] <mike-zal> yeah, if there is no error, then it's pretty convininent.[19:55:13] <mike-zal> Tiny-, in arch however you don't have default access to AUR and there is no yaourt. you have to configure system that way. in manjaro it's out of the box.[19:55:52] <gpunk> hi guys[19:55:54] <mike-zal> that's one of many perks of using manjaro[19:55:59] <gpunk> i have this:[19:55:59] <eizua> mike-zal: They do still have pacman?[19:56:05] <gpunk> Error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/sync/manjaronl.db: Unrecognized archive format[19:56:08] *** zz_MyPictures is now known as MyPictures[19:56:14] <Tiny-> yeah I was totally not expecting to install anything even remotely arch based - I was too set in my apt-get ways[19:56:40] <Tiny-> but manjaro's look+feel AND the fact that it has like 3 package managers both gui and cli is what won me over[19:56:50] <eizua> gpunk: You're probably better off downloading the actual manjaronl.db file from SourceForge[19:56:52] <Tiny-> that and the whole rolling release thin[19:57:03] <eizua> Unfortunately, they're down at the moment[19:57:17] <mike-zal> eizua, not by default from what I remeber. I might be wrong. usually those programs that we think as basic on manjaro, must be installed on arch additionally and many of them is even not in arch repository only in AUR which you don't have access to at the start[19:58:01] <eizua> And I was thinking of switching to Arch at some point in the future...hmmm[19:58:09] <manjaroCinnamon1> hi[19:59:11] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[19:59:58] *** Softeisbieger <Softeisbieger!~Softeisbi@ip-62-143-13-166.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:00:02] <eizua> Probably best to stay with Manjaro for now[20:00:21] <mike-zal> eizua, so far my experiences in arch were less then ideal. arch is famous and it can be great once you know how to handle it, but it's not so nice and easy as manjaro so often when you come to arch after manjaro you might be shocked. sometimes it's better to plunge into arch right away, then when you get bored of maintaining arch you will go to manjaro and find it very pleasant and easy.[20:00:53] <eizua> Ha, going from hard to easy is always pleasant :D[20:01:40] <mike-zal> sometimes people get used to arch way of doing things that they don't utilise all the perks of manjaro[20:02:29] <eizua> mike-zal: Comes with the territory of being used with the environment, I guess[20:03:09] <gpunk> pacman -Syy , this seeams to have fixed me , thnx[20:03:11] <mike-zal> while when you get used to manjaro easy ways, you get not so pleasently suprised. arch differs from manjaro in many, many ways althoug there is lot of arch in manjaro, but manjaro is configured, patched and with additional utilities that make the whole system install and using easy[20:04:11] <eizua> I haven't tried Arch, so I'm going to say "I agree"[20:04:21] <eizua> gpunk: Glad to hear it[20:04:48] <mike-zal> those differences between arch and manjaro are rearely spoken. lack of yaourt and easy access to AUR is one thing, second one is for example: if you have hybrid GPU setup, you have everything set and installed in manjaro. in aur, you need to go to arch wiki, read it, learn it and install all needed packages manually.[20:05:23] <eizua> They do bill Arch as a distro for more experienced users, so there's that[20:05:44] *** thid_ <thid_!~thid@2a00:f41:389d:c0f:9130:d2a0:ba53:5337> has joined #manjaro[20:05:48] <mike-zal> and there is lot of small things that are just there in manjaro, in arch you must get them. arch is simply not a complete system, it's just repository and you build it yourself and that requires some prior knowldge.[20:05:52] *** thid_ <thid_!~thid@2a00:f41:389d:c0f:9130:d2a0:ba53:5337> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:06:04] *** thid <thid!~thid@2a00:f41:389d:c0f:f919:f247:9304:7eb0> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:06:55] <eizua> But it does allow that level of customization, which, for most users, isn't really necessary[20:07:45] <mike-zal> of course you can try out some arch preconfigured install scripts or configured arch installs like antergos but they still are not so polished and set completely as manjaro. but they are nice ways to start with arch (easy way, but then you are still in arch system so the easy start might be misleading)[20:08:49] <mike-zal> manjro is configurable and flexible enough imo. if you want manjaro advanced, just use manjaro net.[20:09:10] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@178.154.6.175> has joined #manjaro[20:09:11] <eizua> Manjaro net doesn't have a DE set, right?[20:09:15] <mike-zal> still, people like to try arch just because its name and fame ;)[20:09:33] <mike-zal> exactly. manjaro net is naked so to speak[20:09:46] <mike-zal> it has X thou as I recall.[20:10:06] <eizua> So you can use either a window manager or a full DE?[20:10:17] <mike-zal> yes[20:10:26] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@178.154.6.175> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:10:37] <mike-zal> you get manjaro basics but then you must built the rest[20:11:22] *** MyPictures is now known as zz_MyPictures[20:11:27] <eizua> What I do eventually want to try out, while I still have Manjaro working, is a BSD system. Either Free- or the Open- one.[20:11:30] <mike-zal> but you don't have to worry about aur, drivers and lot of other stuff that gets already preconfigured during manjaro install[20:11:49] <eizua> Maybe when I buy a second system[20:12:14] <eizua> mike-zal: That's still good, of course[20:12:34] <mike-zal> bsd seems to be outdated, less software able and not so sparkly and linux[20:12:50] <eizua> Have you tried it before?[20:12:54] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has quit IRC (Quit: No, no, no. Go past this. Pass this part. In fact, never play this again.)[20:13:19] <mike-zal> not directly. but you have still kde4 there from what I saw. but I might be wrong.[20:13:45] <eizua> The KDE is probably on the PC-BSD variant, but I might be wrong[20:13:58] <eizua> PC-BSD being based on FreeBSD[20:14:14] <mike-zal> some people like bsd because of licence and stability. but for regular user: you get older stuff, less stuff, with the same or worse speed. not so attractive imo.[20:14:48] <eizua> Yeah, that was one of the reasons I moved to Manjaro from Ubuntu.[20:14:55] <mike-zal> still, licence seems to attract some people.[20:14:56] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-066-200-079.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[20:15:31] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-072-223-209.088.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:15:34] <eizua> mike-zal: You mean, GPL vs BSD licenses, right?[20:17:06] <mike-zal> manjaro has its issues but in overall when you can solve some linux issues, you can get it right. I destroyed my manjaro installs few times at first but I know now that was just my lack of knowldge. for example, I installed bad GPU driver. I could go to tty and fix it easily but back then I didn't know that so I reinstalled manjaro :P. now I have stable system since many months and no bigger issues.[20:17:42] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:17:47] <Tiny-> I was on BSD for a very short time, DragonFlyBSD to be exact - for anyone who started off with a windows system it was friggin murder, it's gotten a LOT better but its still not an "average user" OS and I dont think it honestly bills itself as that either[20:18:01] <eizua> I'd have probably done the same. First time I'm hearing you can fix things like that through TTY, though.[20:18:49] <eizua> Tiny-: I was looking at DragonflyBSD before too.[20:18:53] <mike-zal> eizua, I'm not an expert on licenses. if I recall correctly, free bsd license is: free to do whatever you want. linux license: share with what you did and pay respects to the original authors plus something. but that might be oversimplified. like I said, I'm not into that stuff so that's what I just remebered.[20:19:48] <eizua> Yeah, no worries. All I can say is: FreeBSD's license is pretty simple compared to GPL.[20:20:12] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-066-200-079.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:20:25] <eizua> But I can understand where the GPL license can be useful.[20:20:45] <eizua> Free software and all that jazz.[20:22:12] <mike-zal> I can respect good free software with extra payable plans or additions. that's a good comprimize betteen free and commercial.[20:23:17] <eizua> Which some developers are getting into these days.[20:23:45] *** philo <philo!~philo@2601:646:8f01:6e50:f378:ce94:eb30:af2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:24:05] <mike-zal> they have to live somehow. if the software is good enough, they can ask for money. but some basic free plan is always nice thing to have ;)[20:25:25] <eizua> It's always nice to be rewarded for, well, saving somebody else from having to spend time on the problem you're solving.[20:25:50] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:28:12] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[20:28:18] <mike-zal> probably most of the software I use have such licence. free in general but sometimes with some restrictions. I like it more then propertiary all the way. even on windows I started to use open software more (open office and gimp instead ms office and photoshop and I can't imagine going back to old programs)[20:28:31] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p4FD43CC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:28:36] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[20:28:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[20:29:54] *** RyanKnack <RyanKnack!RyanKnack@unaffiliated/ryanknack> has joined #manjaro[20:30:09] <eizua> mike-zal: You don't have issues opening Word/Excel files?[20:30:14] <Tiny-> eizua, I only used it because of a handful of links I'd found on a PS2 homebrew site, It's great if you want to do very specific things and need a robust stable system, for everyday use though...it's an acquired taste[20:30:25] <Tiny-> one I didn't develop because I was waay in over my head[20:30:41] <eizua> Tiny-, yikes :P[20:30:55] <Tiny-> well on the plus side, it DID work on my PS2 :P[20:30:56] <mike-zal> well, spotify is propertiary software that I use. and dropbox. so there are still some. but not that much.[20:31:22] <eizua> mike-zal: I keep mine to a minimum, as well[20:31:25] <mike-zal> eizua, no, all xls and doc files are opening fine and are showed correctly, even those with macros[20:32:17] <eizua> Huh. Last I heard there were still issues between Word docx files and Open/LibreOffice. Guess they've ironed those out.[20:32:44] <mike-zal> like I said, I use open office at work and libra office at home since years and had no need to change it. I de-learned ms office and now I even couldn't use it witha all those ribbon menus that are horrible.[20:32:59] <eizua> lol[20:33:31] <mike-zal> well, maybe there are some differences in showing some details, I can't compare it because I don't have ms office since years on my computer.[20:33:38] <mike-zal> but all is functional[20:33:38] <Tiny-> yeah ditto, I just straight up shifted to LibreOffice myself and then got my entire office to shift to google docs which was the closest I could get to LO without having to convince people too much[20:35:04] <mike-zal> it was just a matter of getting use to having certain options in different places but rest is identical with old ms office so I can't complain. also it's way better for more multimedia conytent (pictures are not jumping over the page on their own)[20:35:09] <Tiny-> and eizua isn't wrong, only 3 days ago I got an excel document that even google spreadsheet couldnt convert... so I downloaded it, opened it up in LO, saved as .ods, reuploaded to google drive and this time it converted everything to its own google format just fine[20:35:31] <mike-zal> and you can get pdf's out of the box. what could you want more?[20:36:21] <eizua> IIRC, you can save Word files as PDFs now, too, if you select the right option.[20:36:30] <mike-zal> google documents are interesting but you need lot of extensions to get full or more complex functionality. on libre or open office you get all.[20:37:17] <mike-zal> then they improved it. when I was abandoining ms office, open office had that functionality but it's propertiary counterpart didn't[20:37:28] <eizua> mike-zal: Glad to hear you're not getting complaints about Word/Excel files edited in OpenOffice not getting opened in MS Office[20:37:57] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.126.78> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[20:39:10] <mike-zal> like I said, use it at work since years and never had any problem and I get lot of docs and xml files from other companies.[20:39:51] <mike-zal> although lately pdf seems to be major file type[20:40:50] <mike-zal> if someone has speardsheet, they don't want others to copy it so they sent pdf's. fucking annoying. I could have use some of the calculation tables... ;P and now I have to make them from scratch[20:40:58] <eizua> Thankfully there are more alternatives now to Adobe's PDF reader.[20:41:42] <mike-zal> the bad thing is, on linux there is no good pdf readers. ocular seems to be the best but still fails shortly compared to windows adobe reader of windows foxit reader[20:42:05] <mike-zal> linux versions have 1/10th functionality of windows versions :([20:42:08] <eizua> Why the hell would they send spreadsheets as PDF's? Have they never tried locking worksheets?[20:42:29] <eizua> Oh, yeah, you can still copy the data.[20:42:44] <mike-zal> adobe reader is crappy in linux and foxit is a complete mistake, it even doesn't resembles windows software[20:42:45] <Tiny-> mike-zal, well you could just try foxit reader for linux[20:42:59] <Tiny-> ah you have[20:43:12] <mike-zal> yeah, a complete disaster[20:43:34] <eizua> Too bad SumatraPDF doesn't have a Linux version. Lightweight and fast.[20:43:46] <Tiny-> have you tried evince and stuff like ... xpdf? (I think, I'm trying to remember here)[20:43:47] <mike-zal> it's like having dos program laying next to adobe illustrator or CAD.[20:44:16] <mike-zal> what I need is to have put stamps with signatures to my pdf files[20:44:24] <eizua> Foxit's kinda bloated these days, too[20:44:27] <mike-zal> adobe and foxit in windows version have it[20:44:32] <eizua> Didn't use to be that way[20:44:38] <mike-zal> NONE of linux files have it[20:44:42] <mike-zal> linux programs[20:45:41] <Tiny-> ooo I know that pain[20:46:04] <Tiny-> I frequently send invoices and SLAs as PDFs[20:46:15] <Tiny-> I use evince myself for the signature thing[20:46:26] <Tiny-> but it was an odd system to get it implemented[20:46:51] <mike-zal> evince has it? where?[20:47:21] <Tiny-> it doesn't you have to use various scripts and the like[20:47:30] <Tiny-> I being lazy as hell just installed uPDf[20:47:45] <Tiny-> which had a PPA[20:48:17] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@46.197.149.93> has joined #manjaro[20:48:32] <Tiny-> the xournal method worked for me too[20:48:42] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@een242.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:48:46] <Tiny-> in fact a lot of what you can find here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/167274/how-can-i-edit-a-picture-into-an-existing-pdf-file[20:48:47] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/G3SwUb] How can I edit a picture into an existing PDF file? - Ask Ubuntu[20:48:49] <mike-zal> uPDF?[20:48:52] <Tiny-> can be easily adapted[20:49:00] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[20:49:06] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@een242.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:49:22] <Tiny-> yes[20:49:25] <Tiny-> this: https://launchpad.net/updf[20:49:25] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/rJBX3K] uPdf in Launchpad[20:49:55] <Tiny-> damn those fatalexception messages threw me off[20:50:02] <Tiny-> thought it was the dolphin build failing :P[20:50:27] <eizua> heh[20:50:38] <Tiny-> still not an All in one solution but worked well for me[20:50:48] <Tiny-> the uPDF / script stuff I linked[20:50:50] <mike-zal> thanks, will check that out![20:51:31] <mike-zal> is this xournal a part of evince or what?[20:51:55] <mike-zal> ah, it's another pdf app?[20:52:18] *** fradd <fradd!~ffza@unaffiliated/fradd> has joined #manjaro[20:53:05] <mike-zal> never thought of using gimp or inkscape thou. also a nice idea. invoices are usually simple and one paged so that might work too[20:54:06] <Tiny-> yep[20:54:12] <Tiny-> and yes Xournal is another app[20:54:23] <Tiny-> there's a CLi method too but I've never gotten it right[20:54:43] <Tiny-> you need to install poppler for that[20:54:48] <Tiny-> well poppler-utils[20:54:57] <mike-zal> uh, I need something quick and simple.[20:55:18] <Tiny-> which is the heart of many of the PDF stuff found in almost every linux document reader/renderer etc[20:55:28] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~stuart@199.116.226.109> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[20:55:36] <Tiny-> there we go![20:55:38] <Tiny-> FlaxPDF[20:56:18] <Tiny-> that was the other app I was trying to remember - It let me add stamps but there was a limit back when I was using it, like it had to be a certain size or only be 9bit indexed or something[20:56:40] <Tiny-> a full list of various pdf-ish apps can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppler_(software)[20:56:41] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/5a3M9L] Poppler (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[20:57:18] <mike-zal> instaling flaxPDF[20:57:54] <eizua> Tiny-, did you mean this -> http://flaxpdf.sourceforge.net/[20:57:55] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/MgheUT] FlaxPDF - a fast, nice multithreaded PDF viewer for the desktop[20:58:01] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has joined #manjaro[20:58:17] <mike-zal> I found flaxpdf-git in aur[20:58:36] <mike-zal> ok, installed. have to try.[20:58:36] <eizua> Ooh, nice[20:59:07] <manjaroCinnamon1> hi[21:00:08] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/lafemme> has joined #manjaro[21:00:32] <superbia> who is up[21:01:01] <mike-zal> uh, eizua, the version in aur seems to be very basic. not much to it, beside seeing a file :([21:01:13] <superbia> mike-zal: hey[21:01:17] <mike-zal> hi superbia[21:01:26] <superbia> how are you m9[21:01:29] <mike-zal> there is no right click and menu consists of few icons[21:01:42] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.80> has joined #manjaro[21:01:45] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[21:02:06] <eizua> mike-zal: too bad, but did it work for what you needed?[21:02:19] <mike-zal> nope, not even closely :/[21:02:26] <eizua> ouch[21:02:35] <mike-zal> no stamp option[21:02:52] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/lafemme> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.5")[21:03:13] <mike-zal> just: opening file, zoom in/out, select text and open file. that's all :([21:03:43] <eizua> Pretty basic PDF reader, geez[21:04:04] <mike-zal> uninstalled[21:05:35] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:05:39] *** w30 <w30!~Dubal@2601:245:8100:2347::3> has left #manjaro ("Exit; stage left")[21:05:57] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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\o/[21:24:21] <Tiny-> and the menu is pretty snazzy too![21:24:30] <Tiny-> goes well with the Vertex theme[21:24:34] <mike-zal> hmm.. can't see any libre pdf extention in aur or in manjaro repos[21:24:34] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@46.197.149.93> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:24:49] <eizua> Tiny-: Are there ROMS available for that now?[21:25:09] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-075-088-228.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[21:27:42] <mike-zal> seems that this extention is no longer supported in libre office (there is no package for newer ubuntu versions)[21:29:42] <mike-zal> because it works out of the box in newer versions![21:30:30] <mike-zal> so the same as in xournal. no transparent background but image can be easily added to pdf[21:31:10] <eizua> So that's...good, right?[21:31:56] <eizua> One less software to install, provided you have the right version of LibreOffice[21:32:41] <mike-zal> except that xnoural did it better, I mean better quality of pasted image. in libre version image is blurry, but sharp in xournal[21:34:31] <Tiny-> sorry was away again[21:34:44] <eizua> Enjoying the emulator :)[21:34:55] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-075-088-228.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:34:57] <mike-zal> I guess I'll leave xournal then[21:35:04] <Tiny-> eizua, yes, although I dont really OWN any of the games (outside of one)[21:35:20] <Tiny-> but questionable collection of ROM methods aside[21:35:36] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-075-088-228.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[21:36:05] <Tiny-> every game on the Wii/GameCube has had its rom dumped and almost ALL of them work awesomely (I think 55 out of the 2400+ dont work)[21:36:28] <eizua> Tiny-: no worries, I guess I wasn't expecting there'd be ROMS for those already available[21:36:48] <eizua> I'm pretty content with what I can play with either ScummVM or DOSBox[21:37:01] <eizua> Not that I can play much these days[21:37:01] <Tiny-> oh my![21:37:07] <Tiny-> another DOSGamer <3[21:37:19] <Tiny-> yeah that's been my biggest issue[21:37:22] <Tiny-> time :<[21:37:34] <mike-zal> and I though I was old school gamer with baldurs and morrowing and similar...[21:37:40] <NanoSector> There's still a lot of glitches in dolphin but most games work fine[21:37:44] <eizua> Baldur's, oh man[21:37:56] <eizua> Still haven't gotten around to finishing that[21:38:07] *** shuman <shuman!~shuman@d156-119.icpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:38:11] <eizua> (Baldur's Gate 1, I mean)[21:38:19] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE17316.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[21:38:27] <mike-zal> there is 2 and 3 (thron of baal)[21:38:37] <Tiny-> yeah I've been playing a handful of RTS games lately, Dark Reign 1/2 and a little known StarCraft clone called...[21:38:39] <Tiny-> er..[21:38:44] <mike-zal> so basically you need to go through trilogy to finish the history[21:39:11] <mike-zal> one is interesting but 2 - shadows of amn beats it completely[21:39:39] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[21:39:41] <eizua> No spoilers, please :D[21:40:09] <mike-zal> that's the only game you can play and develop character from zero to godhood if you choose at the end properly[21:40:23] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[21:40:28] <Tiny-> CounterBlow[21:40:44] <Tiny-> a Korean clone of Command and Conquer (not StarCraft, my bad)[21:41:35] <eizua> So clones of Kim Jong Un (or is it Il?) run around in tanks...[21:41:57] <mike-zal> eizua, I recommend sourcer class but that's a bit hardcore because you have to know which spell selection you need to have powerful character. that requires knowldge of a spell system.[21:42:33] <eizua> You mean, 'sorcerer'?[21:42:38] <mike-zal> yes[21:42:53] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[21:43:03] <mike-zal> it's harder to play at first but in the end you will become godlike[21:43:50] <eizua> Yeah, it's hard to finish quests at the start, but the graphics are much more awesome when you wield magic[21:43:59] <mike-zal> especially with sequencer spells and djin bigger wish (don't remeber the name) where you can restore yourself infinite times...[21:44:37] <eizua> pacman -S suspend-time[21:44:52] <mike-zal> haha, yes, that's what I mean.[21:45:47] <eizua> Should have gotten those games back in college, dammit.[21:46:01] <mike-zal> if you get suprised, sequencer spells are triggered automatically so you are immune to magick and weapons and you cast quickened suspend time and then next wave of quickned spells, so after it wears off, inferno breaks loose and enemies drop dead instantly[21:46:39] <Tiny-> eizua, I wish! that'd make the game stand out![21:46:39] <mike-zal> I'm suprised that newer games have much more pirmitive spell systems then in baldur's game.[21:47:07] <eizua> mike-zal: Easier to pick up than more complicated ones[21:47:23] <Tiny-> however it's a pretty competent C&C ripoff, everything is more or less in English and the graphics are beefed up and such[21:47:59] <mike-zal> baldur's gate's system requiers of thinking and casting counter spells, especially when you are facing lich.[21:48:10] <eizua> Tiny-: I'd be more surprised if the Koreans *did* make a StarCraft clone, though, given how much of a national sport it is there.[21:48:28] <Tiny-> and yeah I discovered this "new games have turned primitive" thing myself by finally sitting to down to finish a game I'd left untouched for nearly a decade[21:48:34] <Tiny-> Need for Speed Underground 2[21:48:44] <eizua> mike-zal: And that's what make me miss the company who made those games (Black Isle Studios)[21:48:50] <eizua> *makes[21:48:51] <Tiny-> and then , just to see how far it'd come, I played NFS:MW 2012 to see the difference[21:49:17] <Tiny-> right off the bat... there was no tuning options and they'd completely removed Manual Transmission[21:49:18] <eizua> Racing games, meh :D[21:49:44] <Tiny-> in short they'd made it super simple, arcade-y fares[21:50:43] <mike-zal> add to it great story and dialogs, better then in most movies and tv shows, interactions with characters who have mind on their own, and result is most incredible game of all times.[21:50:53] <eizua> Tiny-: At least they've made it harder to claim children get violent after playing games :)[21:50:55] <Tiny-> which I can understand but still, the handful of customization features made the game stand out a bit, now I just press a button and can magically switch between cars and just accerlerate and brake :<[21:51:24] <Tiny-> well you got that right![21:51:35] <eizua> mike-zal: Yep, agreed[21:52:19] <Tiny-> Im more of an action-ready trigger-happy, glitch reaction type gamer...that's mostly because I was brought up in the arcades[21:52:33] <Tiny-> however I have to say of the few RPGs I played[21:52:49] <Tiny-> 2 stood out when it came to dialogue and overall story[21:52:54] <Tiny-> Arcanum[21:52:56] <mike-zal> arcades? I was too small for that. that's a thing from an ancient past to me :P[21:53:01] <Tiny-> and Planescape:Torment[21:53:04] <eizua> Poor eye-hand coordination has made me stay off arcade games[21:53:34] <Tiny-> hah I was actually going to fighting game tournaments :P[21:53:37] <eizua> Planescape:Torment, yeah, still hoping for a sequel to that[21:54:12] <Tiny-> even featured in a CMV (Combo Music Video...fighting game nerds made these to show off their "clans" ablities) :P[21:54:34] <Tiny-> I loved how at one point we all thought we could make a living off this[21:54:34] <mike-zal> planetscape is great but still it's not on the same level as baldur's gate. arcanum was on my list "to play" but never gotten to it and now I barely find any time for games. for years I didn't touch any game and only lately I bought some classics on steam in hope for better future ;).[21:55:27] <Tiny-> yeah time is the real issue if anything[21:55:33] <eizua> Baldur's Gate's story got expanded throughout the trilogy, so I can see where people might say it's on a different level.[21:55:55] <mike-zal> yeah, it's more complex and rewarding.[21:55:57] <Tiny-> but over RPGs, I always love my Point n Click adventures and hanful of action-y titles[21:56:01] <eizua> On the other hand, if you can afford only one game, I'd say, buy Planescape:Torment[21:56:28] <Tiny-> however Im the minority with that view :P[21:56:38] <mike-zal> planetscape was great but too... trippy for my taste.[21:57:07] <eizua> I can see how it can be seen like that, sure.[21:57:12] <mike-zal> it was as if game developers were on constant high...[21:57:21] <eizua> LOL[21:57:25] <Tiny-> well what I liked in planescape and Arcanum was that the dialogue options you chose had a lasting affect and could change whole conversations if not paths of the game you played[21:58:10] <mike-zal> the same as in baldur's. one wrong dialog options and your romance or adventure path was destroyed...[21:58:31] <eizua> Still, I'd like to get a hold of the "pocket universe" they had in BG3 (which a friend told me it had)[21:58:32] <Tiny-> like I think just to see, I made my character in Arcanum as dumb as possible - like really low intelligence. My character literally spoke like the hulk throughout the whole game (that's a LOT of text) and there was a ton of speech that hilariously reflected this too[21:58:36] <mike-zal> and you can't have all so you can play many times and interactions develop differently each time[21:58:47] <Tiny-> "YOU GO, KILL BAD MAN, COME BACK THEN WE TALKY AGAIN"[21:58:52] <Tiny-> "hokey dokey"[21:59:02] <Tiny-> mfw who sat down and wrote all of this?![21:59:26] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[21:59:31] <eizua> Were there voice recordings in Arcanum?[21:59:36] <Tiny-> yes[21:59:42] <Tiny-> at least in the version I had anyway[22:00:02] <eizua> Reminds me of that Baldur's Gate character who had a pet mouse[22:00:03] <mike-zal> hehe. try to play malkavian in masquerade bloodlines.[22:00:10] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[22:00:41] <eizua> mike-zal: Easily the most fun character in that game.[22:01:15] <eizua> Can't believe people are still making unofficial patches for it, though.[22:01:55] <eizua> Tiny-: Sounds like fun, then. Never got to play Arcanum at all.[22:03:00] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE17316.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:04:22] <Tiny-> here's a video of what I was talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHSwvbvE9WU[22:04:23] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/H7txxm] Arcanum - Dumb Character - Low Intelligence - YouTube[22:04:25] <mike-zal> now when I wonder, maybe I mistook arcanum for arcania ;P. if so then I played aracum. was that with technology of magick type of character?[22:04:32] <Tiny-> that's arcanum with speech[22:06:28] * eizua goes off to watch the video[22:07:14] <Tiny-> mike-zal, Im not sure, I mean you had the ability to cast magic spells and the like[22:07:33] <Tiny-> but with my action roots Im a bruteforce kinda guy and the game was pretty challenging[22:07:39] <Tiny-> this is the game: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcanum:_Of_Steamworks_and_Magick_Obscura[22:07:39] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/sWhJv7] Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[22:07:46] <Tiny-> it came out in 2001[22:07:51] <eizua> "Otay."[22:07:54] <eizua> LOL[22:08:00] <Tiny-> right?[22:08:08] <Tiny-> i found it hilarious![22:08:10] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-13597.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:08:13] <eizua> How did I miss this?[22:08:20] <Tiny-> dunno[22:08:24] <Tiny-> to be fair though[22:08:38] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:09:03] <Tiny-> I actually run a retro games website - and we usually have a game discussion thing once a month or so (kinda like the oprah book club thing...but about a retrogame)[22:09:20] <Tiny-> so I tend to find games I've never played/tried/imagined that way[22:10:23] <Tiny-> the thing about games like these is that you can easily have them running in a window via Wine / Dosbox etc and can have your work running too[22:10:32] <eizua> Of course, the player in the video had to choose a dwarf character to have low intelligence. Typical. :D[22:10:42] <Tiny-> I can't imagine doing that with a fighting game[22:11:04] <Tiny-> thats the 2nd time someone has said that to me[22:11:14] <Tiny-> is this like a common trope for RPGs?[22:11:19] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[22:11:37] <eizua> Probably, I dunno[22:12:02] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[22:12:12] <eizua> At first glance, I thought the player was an Orc, though[22:12:19] <Tiny-> now I want to play an RPG where all the dwarfs have a neutral accent and are articulate[22:12:47] <Tiny-> oh hah if you're still watching that video you'll soon see an Orc there who's only pretending to be done[22:13:01] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[22:13:05] <Tiny-> but it otherwise well spoken, he just doesn't have time for someone who's *actually* dumb :P[22:13:24] <eizua> Yeah, I'm still watching it[22:13:26] <Tiny-> *s/done/dumn[22:13:30] <Tiny-> *dumb[22:13:42] <Tiny-> damnit - need to get used to laptop keyboards :<[22:13:59] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[22:14:55] <eizua> These days, I'm happy running some of the old Koei strategy games in DOSBox[22:15:46] <eizua> Requires less planning than a group fight in Baldur's Gate :P[22:16:15] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p4FD43CC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[22:18:32] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~stuart@199.116.226.109> has joined #manjaro[22:18:36] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p4FD43CC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:20:05] *** w30 <w30!~Dubal@2601:245:8100:2347::3> has joined #manjaro[22:21:20] *** Sailor <Sailor!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:23:19] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-227.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[22:27:06] *** mike-zal 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