July 11, 2016 
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July 11, 2016 [00:00:22] *** ccccccevhthcbdji <ccccccevhthcbdji!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:00:58] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-116-23-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[00:02:58] <Condor> never mind... the solution was 6 fucking characters in the bashrc[00:03:01] <Condor> set +H[00:03:02] <Condor> xD[00:04:09] <Aria> When's KDE gonna update to Plasma 5.7? :3[00:04:11] *** Aria is now known as Aria22[00:04:11] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[00:04:34] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[00:05:26] <Condor> Aria22: pacman -Syyu :p[00:05:48] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-116-23-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:06:15] <Aria22> ohhh...[00:06:26] <Aria22> I did pacman -Syuu before... was that bad?[00:06:39] <Condor> try again ;)[00:06:43] <Condor> this time no typos[00:06:46] <Condor> :p[00:06:48] <Aria22> Oh, but it's saying there's nothing to upgrade[00:06:59] <Aria22> But KDE's still at Plasma 5.6[00:07:12] <Condor> i have no idea tbh[00:07:19] <Condor> screenfetch only says kde5[00:07:24] <Aria22> Condor: Are you on stable?[00:07:33] <Condor> yes[00:08:48] <Aria22> Condor: Try doing pacman -Ss plasma-desktop[00:09:14] <Condor> extra/plasma-desktop 5.6.5-1 (plasma) [geïnstalleerd][00:09:16] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[00:09:21] <Aria22> See?..[00:09:23] <Condor> 5.6[00:09:27] <Condor> yea[00:09:32] *** viking60 <viking60!~viking@90.149.89.230> has joined #manjaro[00:09:46] <Condor> meh i'm happy that the 1080p sddm got a fix :)[00:09:54] <Condor> i'm just *[00:10:16] <Condor> no need to upgrade before everything gets down in its place[00:10:20] *** tmnvanderberg <tmnvanderberg!~tmnvander@52481FAE.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:10:24] <Condor> that's a bit too bleeding edge imo[00:11:10] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[00:11:15] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[00:12:06] *** Stabington_work_ <Stabington_work_!~CptStabin@unaffiliated/cptstabington> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:12:17] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:12:55] *** Stabington_work_ <Stabington_work_!~CptStabin@unaffiliated/cptstabington> has joined #manjaro[00:13:06] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:49ad:3aa8:d42f:7886> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:16:22] <Aria22> Condor: Fair point :o I want my calendar integration though...[00:17:44] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:20:23] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:22:14] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@209.95.50.56> has joined #manjaro[00:25:50] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[00:28:39] *** r00tobo <r00tobo!~r00tobo@unaffiliated/r00tobo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[00:28:47] *** Guest19217 <Guest19217!uid11755@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qlqoxbfyagdxtrwj> has joined #manjaro[00:31:19] *** Pablo_ <Pablo_!~Pablo@177.16.139.218> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:31:53] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@145.132.131.160> has quit IRC (Quit: Offline)[00:32:32] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:33:27] *** Guest19217 <Guest19217!uid11755@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qlqoxbfyagdxtrwj> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:33:27] *** Guest19217 <Guest19217!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[00:33:30] *** Guest19217 is now known as SPF|Cloud[00:37:11] *** ringo32 <ringo32!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye ALL#)[00:38:39] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:38:44] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-178-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[00:40:18] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:feaa:14ff:fe93:56bc> has joined #manjaro[00:41:15] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B208675.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:41:48] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cpftjxufvvmmqscd> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:42:36] <Nytram> Hi, I've just installed Manjaro 15 KDE from the Linux Format cover disk and I'm struggling with Octopi and system updates. I just keeps looping around in the terminal and not actually doing the updates. Is this a fixable known issue?[00:43:23] <linux-dream> no idea im new to manjaro too[00:43:35] <linux-dream> i'd try to update the system with the terminal : sudo pacman -Syu[00:43:38] <linux-dream> and see what's the error[00:44:59] <Nytram> Same thing all the time... Missing keys.[00:45:16] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~holoirc@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[00:45:49] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-178-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:45:49] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~tix@176.139.185.179> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:46:38] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-178-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[00:48:42] <Nytram> I'll ask again tomorrow and hope someone can help. Google is about as much help as a rice paper condom. 8/[00:49:28] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:feaa:14ff:fe93:56bc> has quit IRC (Quit: I've had enough of this milarky... I'm off to do something more interesting instead...)[00:49:36] <tmsbrdrs> one sec[00:49:58] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@186-79-57-150.baf.movistar.cl> has joined #manjaro[00:50:32] <manjaro-kde5> hello, everyone![00:50:39] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-178-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:51:06] <tmsbrdrs> Nytram have you done pacman-keys --refresh-keys yet?[00:51:56] <manjaro-kde5> I'm having some trouble configuring sound in plasma5 with openrc[00:52:10] <manjaro-kde5> anyone could give me some hints?[00:52:16] <manjaro-kde5> thanks in advance!![00:52:33] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-178-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[00:53:50] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[00:57:33] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-178-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:57:59] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-178-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[00:59:46] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ygikxbdydidkllah> has joined #manjaro[01:02:11] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[01:03:36] *** trejo <trejo!~guillermo@187.168.252.98> has joined #manjaro[01:05:00] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-178-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:05:51] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[01:05:51] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-178-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[01:07:20] *** sgm <sgm!~quassel@78.96.149.39> has joined #manjaro[01:07:35] <linux-dream> is switching from BIOS to uefi really that easy? https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=UEFI_-_Install_Guide[01:07:35] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Yqkgpf] (link was unresponsive: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=UEFI_-_Install_Guide)[01:10:09] <linux-dream> basically 1)Create the efi partion with gparted. 2)mount it. 3)install grub on that partition 4)update grub accordingly[01:13:05] <linux-dream> what the heck... i just checked with gparted, I do have a uefi partition....[01:13:15] <linux-dream> why wasn't manjaro installed as such?[01:15:14] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.121.97> has joined #manjaro[01:17:23] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@186-79-57-150.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:17:33] *** Zeadar <Zeadar!~looking@unaffiliated/zeadar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:17:55] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-178-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:18:25] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:19:52] <linux-dream> sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=manjaro --recheck yields Installing for x86_64-efi platform. efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system. efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system. Installation finished. No error reported.[01:20:21] <linux-dream> the wiki claims that I could do sudo modprobe efivarfs. but that doesn't help at all[01:20:25] <linux-dream> same message[01:20:38] <linux-dream> help[01:22:58] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:23:03] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@186-79-57-150.baf.movistar.cl> has joined #manjaro[01:23:16] <manjaro-kde5> hello, again![01:23:25] <manjaro-kde5> so... here is the thing[01:24:06] <manjaro-kde5> I have sound, but sound-applet in systemtray is empty[01:25:08] <manjaro-kde5> and if I go to Preferences->Multimedia I don't see any soundcard/device/hardware installed... only Default[01:25:16] <manjaro-kde5> configured to use with pulseaudio[01:26:15] <manjaro-kde5> so... I have audio and sound, but I am not able to configure with gui, only with alsamixer[01:26:36] <manjaro-kde5> any ideas would be great! Thanks![01:34:18] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57990A43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:38:10] *** linux-dream <linux-dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:41:51] *** walle303 <walle303!~walle303@pisg/dev/walle303> has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected)[01:42:21] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.29> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:44:48] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.29> has joined #manjaro[01:45:37] *** viking60 <viking60!~viking@90.149.89.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Going for that free beer...)[01:47:42] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has joined #manjaro[01:49:07] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@1.169.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[01:51:30] <manjaro-kde5> I finally found out the problem in pulseaudio conf... thanks![01:51:55] *** Daifuco <Daifuco!~smuxi@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust274.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[01:53:22] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@1.169.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:53:58] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@36-223-245-190.fibertel.com.ar> has joined #manjaro[01:54:09] <manjaro> help me to install manjaro in uefi mode please[01:54:11] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@69.61.209.156> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:54:22] <manjaro> i am on live version usb[01:54:26] <manjaro> i see no option for uefi[01:57:13] <dodgejcr> if you have uefi system it will install it by default[01:57:32] <dodgejcr> correction, if you have uefi system and it is enabled (no legacy mode) it will install it by default[01:57:39] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[01:57:53] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has left #manjaro[01:59:26] <manjaro> dodgejcr, it seems it;s not enabled then[01:59:35] <manjaro> i am linux-dream[01:59:40] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@186-79-57-150.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:59:53] <manjaro> manjaro got installed as BIOS while it used to be UEFI back when it worked[02:00:05] <manjaro> i still have the partition sda1 for efi[02:00:14] <manjaro> i am about to reinstall manjaro[02:00:36] <manjaro> coz i messed up by following the wiki to switch to uefi from BIOS. i can't boot anymore , i even posted onteh forum[02:00:50] <manjaro> since my system is 2 days old, i am ok to reinstall it. but this time in UEFI[02:00:57] <manjaro> i just dont see how[02:01:18] <manjaro> Calamares didn't do it[02:01:35] <manjaro> it wasn't automatic[02:02:47] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@209.95.50.56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:02:49] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[02:03:31] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[02:03:42] *** trejo <trejo!~guillermo@187.168.252.98> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:05:03] <manjaro> reinstaling[02:05:15] <manjaro> this time i formatted sda1, the FAT32 efi partition[02:05:24] <manjaro> there was a left over from windows on it[02:09:28] <manjaro> efivar -l returns efivar: error listing variables: Function not implemented[02:12:42] <LyriCa> anybody has an idea when the next version of xfce would be?[02:14:31] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@36-223-245-190.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:14:40] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[02:14:52] <linux_dream> should i enable "uefi lan boot" in the BIos?[02:16:42] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:17:59] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[02:18:13] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has left #manjaro[02:19:02] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@186.82.70.156> has joined #manjaro[02:19:16] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@209.95.50.18> has joined #manjaro[02:19:41] *** manjaroi3 is now known as groobles[02:19:52] <linux_dream> i did it, let's see whether uefi works now[02:20:32] <verrlara> Anyone have the bspwm version?[02:21:48] *** Daifuco <Daifuco!~smuxi@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust274.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:21:53] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[02:22:02] <linux_dream> same problem. no uefi at all[02:22:07] <linux_dream> gosh...[02:22:17] <linux_dream> wiped out my system for nothing[02:22:32] <LyriCa> why has that problem arisen?[02:22:47] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891352.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:23:13] <linux_dream> just me wanting to switch from BIOS to uefi. i followed the wiki and that broke my system[02:23:55] <linux_dream> it left it in a state where grub was broken and couldn;t boot. so i reinstalled manjaro and it's still not in uefi mode[02:24:23] <verrlara> Hello?[02:24:28] <verrlara> Anyone use bspwm?[02:24:42] <verrlara> I need the default configs out of the skel for the lemonbar[02:25:26] * verrlara does not use manjaro but uses the manjaro lemonbar and lost her config to a drunken cousin.[02:26:51] *** Legans <Legans!~manjaro-k@pc-219-157-45-190.cm.vtr.net> has joined #manjaro[02:27:46] *** Legans <Legans!~manjaro-k@pc-219-157-45-190.cm.vtr.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:31:38] *** ben_chile <ben_chile!~Manjarous@181.226.60.176> has joined #manjaro[02:31:43] <ben_chile> hello guys[02:32:36] <ben_chile> does anyone can help me with a cli to know which compositing manager is working in Deepin Manjaro please?[02:33:33] <verrlara> compton?[02:33:47] <ben_chile> I already deactivated ( set as false) metacity compositing manager and then installed compton and logged out, now I just want to check[02:34:06] <ben_chile> yup verrlara[02:34:38] <ben_chile> any cli you might know[02:35:57] <ben_chile> I am not sure if I could deactivate metacity compositing for it is not like when running xfce[02:36:13] <verrlara> I usually use compton[02:36:19] <verrlara> You can activate that by cli[02:36:29] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891352.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[02:36:30] <verrlara> If you want it to just run in the background I use compton -b[02:36:46] <ben_chile> mm let me see[02:37:06] <ben_chile> it is done[02:37:16] <ben_chile> and hope it is working ?[02:37:35] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[02:37:51] <ben_chile> how do I deactivate compton as background deamon[02:38:11] <verrlara> killall compton[02:38:14] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[02:38:38] <ben_chile> thanks a lot verrlara[02:38:39] <verrlara> killall gets all the threads of an app and nails them through the eye[02:39:13] <ben_chile> now I can visually notice that compton is on[02:39:21] <ben_chile> I could not before[02:39:25] <verrlara> :D[02:39:42] <ben_chile> even though I had typed compton in the terminal[02:39:45] <verrlara> paranoid I think is a gui frontend to configure it.[02:40:02] <ben_chile> it looks awesome now[02:41:36] *** damian01w <damian01w!~manjaro-k@181.29.131.93> has joined #manjaro[02:41:36] <ben_chile> I am checking it by watching Shannara Chronicles in stremio[02:43:23] *** damian01w <damian01w!~manjaro-k@181.29.131.93> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:43:41] *** damian01w <damian01w!~manjaro-k@181.29.131.93> has joined #manjaro[02:45:02] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.121.97> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[02:45:20] <ben_chile> verrlara thanks again see u[02:45:34] *** damian01w <damian01w!~manjaro-k@181.29.131.93> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:45:45] *** ben_chile <ben_chile!~Manjarous@181.226.60.176> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:56:26] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[02:56:27] *** glsmaxx_ <glsmaxx_!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[03:01:20] *** damian01w <damian01w!~manjaro-k@181.29.131.93> has joined #manjaro[03:01:30] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:03:27] <linux_dream> what was the command to list all installed packages and see whether they are from core, multilib and community&[03:03:28] <linux_dream> ?[03:03:38] <linux_dream> pacman -Qdd ....[03:07:58] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[03:10:33] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:25:36] *** glsmaxx_ <glsmaxx_!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:27:19] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ygikxbdydidkllah> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[03:29:56] <day|flip> linux_dream, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Tips_and_tricks[03:29:56] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/8LUsEv] pacman/Tips and tricks - ArchWiki[03:33:06] *** walle303 <walle303!~walle303@pisg/dev/walle303> has joined #manjaro[03:34:12] *** damian01w <damian01w!~manjaro-k@181.29.131.93> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:37:22] <linux_dream> hey day|flip[03:37:37] <linux_dream> yeah i was reading that but i dont find the command of yesterday[03:38:18] <linux_dream> i had to reinstall manjaro. i messed up by trying to switch to UEFI from BIOS, by following the wiki which left my system in an unbootable state[03:38:44] <linux_dream> so this time I won;T bother with uefi[03:38:58] <linux_dream> but i need to remove the packages from multilib repo[03:39:15] <day|flip> you know what. I think net install well be better off for you. since your aim to have as little package installed[03:39:40] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891352.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:40:19] <linux_dream> not really. i like how the system looks like in manjaro and i dont want to install and customize xfce[03:40:35] <linux_dream> i liked my system of 2 hours ago when it was working[03:40:45] <linux_dream> i had removed all the packages I wanted[03:41:06] <linux_dream> which includes the programs i dont use, bluetooth and plymouth.[03:41:18] <linux_dream> im satisfied with everything else[03:41:27] <linux_dream> like network manager[03:41:35] <linux_dream> etc[03:42:00] <linux_dream> i can't remember the command i used. i remember it had pacman -Qdd but something else too[03:42:10] <day|flip> or go crazy with pacman.. like: pacman -Rcs gtk qt[03:42:59] <day|flip> basically that will remove all the api of gtk and qt and all the programs that need gtk or qt[03:43:28] <day|flip> so you just have tty[03:43:28] <linux_dream> i don't want that. this would kill the pdf viewer[03:43:52] <linux_dream> not my goal ´´[03:45:08] <day|flip> fun fact. it very unsafe to used pacman -Rcs removing package. and you did. pacman -Rcs base... it will uninstall every package you have installed[03:45:19] <day|flip> and i wise i was joking[03:45:38] <linux_dream> i only do pacman -Rs[03:45:45] <linux_dream> i dont know what the c does ^^[03:45:56] <day|flip> remove all the depenies[03:46:26] <linux_dream> i thought that was what the s did[03:47:13] <day|flip> witch is very unsafe[03:47:26] <day|flip> if your board. why not read the man pages[03:47:29] <day|flip> man pacman[03:48:33] <linux_dream> doing[03:49:35] <linux_dream> so many letters possible[03:51:24] <day|flip> most people like using. pacman -Rns[03:51:54] *** groobles <groobles!~manjaro-i@186.82.70.156> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:52:35] <linux_dream> reached end of man page. i don't know[03:52:51] <linux_dream> i didn't see any description that would do the stuff i did yesterday[03:54:29] <linux_dream> im told comm -12 <(pacman -Qtq | sort) <(pacman -Slq multilib | sort) from the wiki you pointed out... but that's not what i had done. anyway if that works, then be it[03:56:09] <linux_dream> lol[03:56:14] <linux_dream> does not work well[03:56:19] <linux_dream> this returns only 2 packages[03:56:30] <linux_dream> lib32-mesa-demos and steam-manjaro[03:57:45] <linux_dream> oh wait. pamac can show them[03:59:02] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[04:02:59] <day|flip> pacman -Qqen ?[04:03:34] <linux_dream> hmm no because this doesn't show whether the packages are from core, community, etc[04:04:01] <linux_dream> but it doesn't matter now, I use pamac to show them. i remove them with pacman[04:04:36] <day|flip> pacman -Qqeng[04:04:45] <day|flip> i guess that kinda works[04:04:54] <day|flip> but it groups[04:07:30] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[04:09:03] <linux_dream> package-query -Q | grep '^multilib' close to this[04:09:16] <linux_dream> missing an inverted /[04:10:39] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@180.215.127.195> has joined #manjaro[04:14:02] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@163.47.12.237> has joined #manjaro[04:14:27] *** eiff <eiff!~eiffi@unaffiliated/eiffi> has joined #manjaro[04:15:45] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@c-71-59-129-130.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[04:15:46] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@180.215.127.195> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:15:46] *** gpk <gpk!~eiffi@unaffiliated/eiffi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:15:50] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@c-71-59-129-130.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:16:12] <linux_dream> good night[04:16:15] *** linux_dream 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<Jimmy_Ray> has anyone here had a problem using firefox and you cant see what your typing this is only on firefox when on youtube ...the other browser chromium works fine but firefox cant see what i type[04:38:12] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891352.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[04:39:03] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@163.47.12.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:39:20] *** r00tobo <r00tobo!~r00tobo@unaffiliated/r00tobo> has joined #manjaro[04:42:26] *** manjaroCinnamon_ <manjaroCinnamon_!~Manjarous@163.47.13.49> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:42:56] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@163.47.13.49> has joined #manjaro[04:45:38] *** Jimmy_Ray <Jimmy_Ray!~Jimmy_Ray@2602:302:d113:14d0::48> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:47:27] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@163.47.13.49> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:48:07] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has 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Good evening manjaro linux[07:19:57] <Vlado9A> 07:19 in my little village :)[07:20:17] <Vlado9A> am :)[07:20:42] <verrlara> 11pm here[07:22:03] <vexare> gmt +1[07:23:15] <Vlado9A> verrlara: so you are where, somewhere in the middle of Pacific ocean? :)[07:23:40] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991637.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[07:23:40] <verrlara> Oh you are hilarious. Nope I am in the rocky mountains of the usa.[07:25:17] *** trejo <trejo!~guillermo@187.168.252.98> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[07:25:21] <Vlado9A> Thumbs up for you and/on Rocky mountains :)[07:26:11] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[07:27:16] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:31:34] <geek> I installed plasma 5.7 from aur and I'd like to know how to update all orphan packages?[07:31:43] *** Brenton32839 <Brenton32839!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has joined #manjaro[07:33:21] <Brenton32839> Doing a Google for aur pykaraoke I found what I want, a submitted pkgbuild for pykaraoke. How do I add this as a repo in octopi?[07:36:13] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[07:36:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[07:37:15] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@115.200.38.80> has joined #manjaro[07:37:49] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as manjaro-kde5-[07:37:53] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as manjaro-kde5[07:38:00] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as manjaro-kde5-[07:53:28] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has joined #manjaro[07:55:06] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[07:56:01] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@77.233.11.223> has joined #manjaro[07:56:24] *** Brenton32839 <Brenton32839!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[07:56:41] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991637.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:57:18] *** yokel <yokel!~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[07:57:51] *** yokel <yokel!~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt> has joined #manjaro[08:00:06] <Strit_Laptop> Now, if I set up a wireless router as an Access Point, will the ethernet port hub in it, just be counted as a switch?[08:03:13] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has quit IRC (Quit: No, no, no. Go past this. Pass this part. In fact, never play this again.)[08:05:20] *** Brenton32839 <Brenton32839!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has joined #manjaro[08:07:08] <Brenton32839> Does anyone have time to look into submitting a pkgbuild to aur for manjaro for pykaraoke[08:08:16] <Strit_Laptop> Do you have the PKGBUILD?[08:12:02] <Brenton32839> Google aur pykaraoke[08:12:46] <Strit_Laptop> I know it is not in the AUR, but do you have a PKGBUILD ready to be submitted?[08:13:35] <Brenton32839> No apparently someone was already working on it maybe[08:16:24] <Brenton32839> Google aur pykaraoke. First result takes you to what looks like a listing for a pkgbuild for it[08:17:15] <Brenton32839> At the top it says aur-mirror/pykaraoke/pkgbuild[08:18:32] <Brenton32839> Repository https://bitbucket.org/axli42/aur-mirror.git[08:18:33] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/QxVG7Y] (link was unresponsive: https://bitbucket.org/axli42/aur-mirror.git)[08:20:20] <Brenton32839> I know. Can you make sense of what is there it looks like text describing what it depends on and procedure to install. Is the text there a 'pkgbuild'[08:21:37] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has left #manjaro ("bbl")[08:21:40] <Strit_Laptop> Yes, the text there is the PKGBUILD. It just needs to be saved in a file called PKGBUILD in a folder called pykaraoke. And then you should check that it builds, if it does, you can submit it to AUR.[08:22:27] *** Sufixx <Sufixx!~sufixx@213.231.192.102> has joined #manjaro[08:22:42] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@115.200.38.80> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:23:27] <Brenton32839> Nice. Can you try to see if you can make a go of it[08:24:31] *** Sufixx <Sufixx!~sufixx@213.231.192.102> has left #manjaro[08:24:36] <Strit_Laptop> I'll try seeing if it builds.[08:25:37] <Brenton32839> Nice. Super duper. How long after you submit it would it show up in aur[08:27:55] <Brenton32839> I mean I assume if you went thru the trouble of building it you will submit it :) karaoke gods will smile upon you[08:29:11] <Strit_Laptop> hehe. Well, so far it's missing a .install file. :P[08:30:35] <Strit_Laptop> hunting for that atm.[08:31:04] *** skulltus <skulltus!~skulltus@87-126-74-241.ip.btc-net.bg> has joined #manjaro[08:31:15] <Brenton32839> You know I got the zip from the web site for it. I must have read the instructions several times and tried my best to poke those commands in terminal[08:31:38] *** skulltus <skulltus!~skulltus@87-126-74-241.ip.btc-net.bg> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:31:50] <berm> Hello boys, gotta ask a question, is there a way to start apache with a debug log or something?[08:31:58] <Strit_Laptop> Is there a .install file and a PKGBUILD in that zip?[08:32:15] <berm> When I run it, and go to localhost, it says it cannot connect[08:32:40] <Strit_Laptop> berm, how do you run it? what command do you run?[08:32:45] <berm> sudo systemctl restart httpd[08:32:50] <berm> or just 'start'[08:33:18] <Brenton32839> No. Supposed to be cross platform package from kibosh.org[08:33:35] <Strit_Laptop> berm, and does "systemctl status httpd -l" tell you something?[08:34:35] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@c-73-231-6-194.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[08:34:46] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@c-73-231-6-194.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:34:59] <berm> Strit_Laptop: https://maze.io/paste/p/ezafr7rwc059sc7a[08:34:59] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/JSAQmD] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[08:35:28] <berm> Seems he can't load a mod[08:35:33] <berm> going to check that out[08:35:42] <Strit_Laptop> berm, line 528 of your httpd.conf is broken. :P[08:37:20] <Strit_Laptop> Brenton32839, well, the package builds fine. :Å[08:37:39] <Strit_Laptop> without the .install. Question is, if it works.[08:38:14] <Brenton32839> Cool. Can you see if it runs[08:39:14] <Brenton32839> Sample mp3+g files are available just Google[08:39:27] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@105.156.58.64> has joined #manjaro[08:39:28] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@105.156.58.64> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:39:46] <Brenton32839> If it works submit it please :)[08:40:34] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has joined #manjaro[08:40:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v thenewone[08:40:49] <thenewone> Hi guys[08:41:42] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@c-73-231-6-194.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[08:42:00] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@c-73-231-6-194.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:44:12] <Strit_Laptop> Brenton32839, it seems to run, so I'll submit it in a minute.[08:45:10] <Strit_Laptop> here it is: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pykaraoke/[08:45:10] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/cqVVjC] AUR (en) - pykaraoke[08:45:40] <berm> Strit_Laptop: Hey, do you have experience with apache?[08:46:19] <berm> Strit_Laptop: I should install php module in /conf/extra/php7_module.conf Is that in the dir apache, or system wide?[08:47:07] <Strit_Laptop> berm, No idea. I run a very basic apache server, just to list files in the folders.[08:48:40] <Brenton32839> Thanks![08:49:58] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-mpuddbksyrblphfu> has joined #manjaro[08:50:04] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[08:50:28] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@209.95.50.18> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:50:41] *** spaceraven <spaceraven!~spacerave@62.148.146.189> has joined #manjaro[08:50:43] <Strit_Laptop> Brenton32839, let me know if it works or if it has any errors.[08:53:12] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@213.181.39.195> has joined #manjaro[08:53:59] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@213.181.39.195> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:57:13] *** vinini <vinini!~vini@5.29.197.95> has joined #manjaro[08:57:29] <Brenton32839> It works. Thanks! On first run the column between search list and singer list is all the way to the left. I just scooted it over. Added a sample song and it plays. Thank you![08:57:57] <berm> Strit_Laptop: Well, it is the way I thought ;)[08:58:26] <Strit_Laptop> Brenton32839, np. Is the project still being deveoped, do you know?[08:58:37] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has joined #manjaro[08:58:52] <Strit_Laptop> It seems to be "dead" since 2011.[09:00:46] <Brenton32839> Yea dead since then. I hoped it would continue or someone could pick up where they left off. It needs player controls and a slider. Plus it does not clear the singer/song from the list when its done playing[09:01:09] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:01:20] <Strit_Laptop> Brenton32839, maybe someone comes along with some python knowledge and takes it over. :)[09:02:53] <Brenton32839> I had hoped to put bare bones manjaro on a laptop for a bar that only does karaoke. It seems people that they hire always screw up the computer. All it would do is boot and do karaoke when I got done.[09:03:46] <Strit_Laptop> Brenton32839, A NET edition with a simple, lightweight interface, python and pykaraoke might do that. :)[09:05:14] <Brenton32839> Awesome Linux guys :) it needs a few more things. Then it could replace the end all be all sax and dotties show hoster[09:06:48] <Brenton32839> The idea is give the bar a laptop with Linux. All it does is karaoke and music. And dummys can't mess it up.[09:08:17] <Brenton32839> Oh yea perhaps make it so pykaraoke can just be used to play files. And have changing settings in it require password[09:10:07] <Strit_Laptop> Brenton32839, yeah. Can't help you with that. I don't know alot of python. :)[09:10:34] <Brenton32839> hey you already helped a lot. Thanks[09:11:28] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[09:11:34] <Brenton32839> I'm going to get out of the way. Help some other people. You are on a roll with good karma[09:11:45] <Strit_Laptop> Thanks man. :)[09:11:52] <Strit_Laptop> Also, I'm at work. :P[09:13:05] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[09:13:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[09:13:16] <Strit_Laptop> Brenton32839, you might even be possible to do on a Raspberry Pi or similar device, to save some money. :)[09:14:50] <Brenton32839> Yes exactly. A wood cabinet karaoke kiosk. Patrons can add themselves to sing[09:17:31] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-53.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[09:18:06] <Brenton32839> It calls mplayer to play the files. And you are supposed to be able to edit that but the browse button next to the setting doesn't work. Be nice if it launched mplayer with separate controls[09:19:59] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[09:25:01] <Brenton32839> Thanks I'm gone to bed[09:25:11] *** Brenton32839 <Brenton32839!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[09:25:26] *** Snaptag <Snaptag!~manjaro-k@host54-7-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[09:30:25] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:36:05] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:37:06] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@user-36c5b4e.cable.mindspring.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:38:35] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has joined #manjaro[09:41:34] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:43:07] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.34> has joined #manjaro[09:44:27] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:45:18] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.156.76> has joined #manjaro[09:45:23] <manjaro-kde5-> Hi[09:46:01] <manjaro-kde5-> I'm using manjaro and I can not boot Iwant to reinstall that and keep my software[09:46:19] <manjaro-kde5-> do you know how should I do that?[09:46:26] <peetaur2> manjaro-kde5-: safest is to back it up[09:46:43] <peetaur2> but easiest and quickest is just reinstall but tell it not to format file systems[09:47:11] <peetaur2> but when you do that way, you may have to remove some files manually. a simple way to do that is cd /; mkdir old; mv * old/[09:47:45] <peetaur2> but if you're confident, you can rm -rf the whole system minus your files you want to keep (/home, /opt maybe, /var/lib/... some dirs there)[09:47:48] <peetaur2> and /root[09:48:03] <peetaur2> but also, you can try recovering it without install... why doesn't it boot?[09:48:25] <manjaro-kde5-> I don't know[09:48:50] <peetaur2> what does it show when it fails?[09:49:18] <peetaur2> boot it up... when it's in the grub menu, hit e.. then go down to the "linux ...vmlinuz-xxxx ...." line and remove the "quiet" and "splash=silent" stuff, then hit f10[09:49:24] <peetaur2> then we get full details and see what is wrong[09:51:42] <manjaro-kde5-> do you know where is my cache folder of octopi[09:51:43] <manjaro-kde5-> ?[09:52:19] <peetaur2> octopi uses pacman which has its cache in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/[09:54:43] *** ringo32 <ringo32!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[09:55:40] *** vinini <vinini!~vini@5.29.197.95> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:58:59] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:59:49] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@213.181.39.195> has joined #manjaro[10:01:22] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~tix@176.139.185.179> has joined #manjaro[10:01:24] <NaoTix> Hi[10:05:28] <manjaro-kde5-> hi[10:05:49] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has joined #manjaro[10:16:25] <berm> Anyone here[10:16:41] <berm> Who has experience with installing php5.6 with apache2?[10:16:49] <berm> or, in arch it's just apache*[10:17:04] <berm> Can't get it to work[10:18:13] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[10:20:18] *** r00tobo <r00tobo!~r00tobo@unaffiliated/r00tobo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:22:19] *** r00tobo <r00tobo!~r00tobo@unaffiliated/r00tobo> has joined #manjaro[10:24:46] <peetaur2> berm: did you install php, and the php apache mod, and enable the php apache mod?[10:35:30] *** ringo32 <ringo32!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye ALL#)[10:36:14] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has quit IRC (Quit: Quite)[10:43:30] *** latemus <latemus!~latemus@unaffiliated/latemus> has joined #manjaro[10:44:42] <latemus> mhm[10:45:01] *** latemus <latemus!~latemus@unaffiliated/latemus> has left #manjaro[10:51:53] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-53.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:52:03] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:53:52] <berm> peetaur2: apache mod, like normal apache mod, or is there a special version for 5.6?[10:54:48] <berm> peetaur2: I have apache working btw, it was a wrong named php libary[10:55:02] <berm> peetaur2: Any experience with "Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'PDOException' with message 'could not find driver'"?[10:55:30] <peetaur2> berm: in linux distros, apache and its mods may come in separate packages, so you install both, from the same supported repos[10:57:23] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:57:48] <berm> peetaur2: THanks for the explanation[10:58:12] <berm> peetaur2: got by any chance any help on the error php gave me?[11:03:31] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[11:04:44] *** depate <depate!~depate@pD9E4B27F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[11:04:50] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-mpuddbksyrblphfu> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[11:05:24] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@89-71-231-79.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[11:05:46] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@89-71-231-79.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:08:19] *** keybyte <keybyte!~byte@ppp121-45-247-150.lns20.per4.internode.on.net> has joined #manjaro[11:15:26] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!3e9fed02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.159.237.2> has joined #manjaro[11:17:19] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vyviauefjewlwrsw> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[11:19:16] <berm> I got everything running now, thanks all[11:19:44] <berm> Question, if I want a overview of all my running apps, what shortcut is that? KDE[11:19:56] <berm> googled already, not satisfied with the answers[11:23:01] <peetaur2> berm: ps -ef --forest | less[11:23:35] <peetaur2> I have assumed you don't literally mean shortcut[11:25:34] *** keybyte <keybyte!~byte@ppp121-45-247-150.lns20.per4.internode.on.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:29:13] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@105.159.193.167> has joined #manjaro[11:29:27] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@105.159.193.167> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:29:45] <berm> Yeah, I mean in kde[11:29:51] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:30:19] <berm> If I use alt+tab, I get a sidebar to scroll through all my running (gui) apps[11:30:46] <berm> I want that overview, but screen centered[11:31:04] <berm> there is a shortcut, I just can't seem to find it[11:31:06] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.147> has joined #manjaro[11:31:23] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[11:31:27] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[11:32:43] *** Softeisbieger <Softeisbieger!~Softeisbi@ip-62-143-13-166.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[11:34:18] <peetaur2> ok well for shortcuts, you should be able to find the whole list in the settings[11:34:28] <berm> true[11:34:33] <berm> going to look for it now[11:34:40] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:36:50] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.147> has quit IRC (Quit: Nishikino-Maki)[11:37:10] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.147> has joined #manjaro[11:38:43] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[11:38:47] *** use <use!~use@46.165.242.166> has joined #manjaro[11:39:03] *** use is now known as timojoer[11:41:54] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[11:44:42] <timojoer> hello[11:44:43] <timojoer> i cant change my username,and even though i feed all names in network, my username reamains the same?[11:44:44] <timojoer> <use> any help[11:45:29] <berm> reboot ?[11:45:38] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[11:45:38] <berm> Have you tried to reboot yet?[11:45:39] <timojoer> berm in hexchat?[11:45:47] <timojoer> not reboot[11:45:50] <timojoer> irc client[11:46:12] <berm> ooohh[11:46:13] <mparillo> <ctrl><F8> shows thumbnails of my kwin windows.[11:46:23] <berm> /nick newnick[11:47:09] <berm> mparillo: Thats what I want, but for my current desktop, but this is handy too! maybe you know anotherone?[11:47:16] <timojoer> whois me and you will see my username as ~use which i cant change? berm[11:47:20] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:47:32] <berm> timojoer: I use irssi, so don't know, sorry man[11:47:38] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:48:24] <mparillo> Well I just learned to assign a keyboard chord (I use shift ctrl n) to walk through my Konversation Channels.[11:48:35] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[11:48:51] <timojoer> great me too sometimes, and i am switching to it[11:49:05] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[11:49:10] <timojoer> berm so u use /set user_name name ; /save right[11:50:08] *** dioserdier <dioserdier!~identname@46.165.242.166> has joined #manjaro[11:50:45] *** Nishikino-Maki1 <Nishikino-Maki1!~Thunderbi@157.122.148.188> has joined #manjaro[11:50:49] <dioserdier> timojoer: try network settings[11:51:37] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[11:51:51] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.147> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:51:51] *** Nishikino-Maki1 is now known as Nishikino-Maki[11:54:55] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[11:58:41] *** dioserdier <dioserdier!~identname@46.165.242.166> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:58:41] *** timojoer <timojoer!~use@46.165.242.166> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:59:09] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[12:01:07] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p3E9EB4B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:03:28] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[12:07:17] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-53.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[12:09:49] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:feaa:14ff:fe93:56bc> has joined #manjaro[12:10:31] <VoidFox> anyone know a command to open printing-options?[12:10:44] <Nytram> Hi everyone[12:11:01] <VoidFox> im looking for something like "lpr --options $@"[12:11:51] <VoidFox> need a screen where i can set if i want to print verticaly or 12 copys etc[12:11:55] <VoidFox> hi Nytram[12:13:06] <Nytram> I installed Manjaro yesterday and I can't run updates because it keeps telling me that the required keys are missing or not available remotely. Any ideas please?[12:13:39] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has left #manjaro ("bbl")[12:13:48] *** jeannie <jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[12:13:51] <Nytram> Half the installed packages won't run, thunderbird, vlc etc[12:14:01] <Nytram> So I need the updates.[12:14:14] <Lowl3v3l> Nytram, refreshing the keys works, theres sth about this in the wiki, in the archwiki maybe too.[12:14:40] <Lowl3v3l> and this sounds like you broke sth. even in the installed freezes programs should run[12:14:51] <Nytram> Refresh the keys? Right, thanks for that, I'll go look now.[12:15:41] <jeannie> What do you mean? Won't run? What are the errors when yoz start these applications in a terminal?[12:16:05] <Nytram> Nope, other than using Octopi to install extra packages AFTER I did the update, this is a vanilla install. After a reboot however, it insists that there are still 795 updates to do but can't complete because of the key issue.[12:16:39] <jeannie> So you mean they won't update?[12:16:42] <Nytram> Simply won't run Jeannie, the cursor shows a 'working' anim then nothing.[12:17:02] <Nytram> Even when evokking from the terminal[12:17:44] <Nytram> working + loading/working in background[12:18:02] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.156.76> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:18:17] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.156.76> has joined #manjaro[12:18:21] <Nytram> Anyway, I'll look for this refresh keys article. thanks fo0r all the input.[12:18:40] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@ppp-94-68-240-166.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[12:18:41] *** manj-1603-Lxde2 <manj-1603-Lxde2!~manjaro@ppp-94-68-240-166.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[12:18:43] *** manj-1603-Lxde3 <manj-1603-Lxde3!~manjaro@ppp-94-68-240-166.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[12:18:54] <jeannie> If only someone would update the certificates for the wiki..[12:19:10] *** manj-1603-Lxde3 <manj-1603-Lxde3!~manjaro@ppp-94-68-240-166.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:19:12] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@ppp-94-68-240-166.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:19:15] *** manj-1603-Lxde2 <manj-1603-Lxde2!~manjaro@ppp-94-68-240-166.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:20:41] <peetaur2> jeannie: they can't because of SSL pinning and some issue with the CA that it's pinned to.[12:20:51] <peetaur2> jeannie: they have to wait until the pin time runs out[12:21:06] <Strit_Laptop> Nytram, run this in terminal and try again "sudo pacman -S archlinux-keyring manjaro-keyring"[12:21:22] <Nytram> Hah! My google searches came up empty, did a search for "Manjaro refresh keys" and found this command sudo pacman -S archlinux-keyring manjaro-keyring. All working now. Thanks again.[12:21:31] <Nytram> lol[12:24:10] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[12:27:02] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@host95-255-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[12:28:32] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:28:33] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-jmypcphubcsaupkp> has joined #manjaro[12:28:46] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[12:31:33] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@host95-255-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:31:52] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.156.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[12:32:13] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@host95-255-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[12:34:20] <Strit_Laptop> Anyone know if it's possible to build i686 software on an x86_64 machine without typing the sudo password?[12:34:53] <Wildfyr> Strit_Laptop: i don't think so[12:35:14] <Wildfyr> but maybe make it so that sudo priveleges aren't needed[12:35:30] <Strit_Laptop> how would I do that? :P[12:35:38] <Wildfyr> Strit_Laptop: one min[12:36:00] <Strit_Laptop> according to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Building_32-bit_packages_on_a_64-bit_system I need a chroot, which needs sudo rights. :([12:36:00] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/S0igBt] Building 32-bit packages on a 64-bit system - ArchWiki[12:37:18] <Wildfyr> Strit_Laptop: i have an idea which is a bit unsecure but can work[12:37:35] <Strit_Laptop> do tell. :)[12:39:38] <Wildfyr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/192050/how-to-run-sudo-command-with-no-password[12:39:39] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/d6v5L5] aws - How to run sudo command with no password? - Ask Ubuntu[12:40:13] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@213.181.39.195> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:42:18] <Strit_Laptop> yeah, I need to reboot for it. Damn. Guess I'll find out after next kernel update. :P[12:43:28] <Wildfyr> lol[12:43:35] <Wildfyr> Strit_Laptop: wait[12:43:41] *** depate <depate!~depate@pD9E4B27F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:43:43] <Wildfyr> yea[12:43:49] <Strit_Laptop> hehe[12:47:35] <peetaur2> Strit_Laptop: huh? why should you need root to build for a different arch?[12:47:47] <peetaur2> all you need is the 32 bit libs it has to link with, and then just build it[12:48:44] <Strit_Laptop> peetaur2, I need to build i686 packages on my x86_64 machine. How can makepkg do this, in addition to x86_64 packages. Is there a flag for it?[12:48:47] <peetaur2> (but what I do is use a 32 bit arch/manjaro rootfs and build after chrooting in there... and chroot needs root)[12:49:43] <peetaur2> also you can just put NOPASSWD in your sudoers file... just don't do it globally[12:50:17] <Strit_Laptop> peetaur2, I did put NOPASSWD in sudoers, but it's not working. At least while I haven't rebooted.[12:50:23] <peetaur2> if you do it like I did, with a full 32 bit chroot, you just use makepkg as normal (but if you install them on the 64 bit, you have to use pacman --arch i686 -U <somepackage>[12:50:37] <peetaur2> you dn't have to reboot for editing sudoers[12:50:47] <Strit_Laptop> I don't want to install the package, just build it.[12:50:53] <peetaur2> so what does your sudoers line look like and what command did you run?[12:52:20] <Strit_Laptop> I made a file in /etc/sudoers.d/script_rights, where I put in "%user ALL = NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/mkchrootpkg" without the qoutes.[12:53:34] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has joined #manjaro[12:55:22] <peetaur2> Strit_Laptop: and "user" is a group name?[12:55:32] <peetaur2> if so you probably mean "users"[12:55:51] <Strit_Laptop> Oh, I thought it was a variable for the username....[12:56:37] <peetaur2> user name is without the %[12:56:52] *** enkeys_ <enkeys_!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-bvctljueygzrxvfm> has joined #manjaro[12:56:56] <peetaur2> just like in the link you pasted... "aychedee" is without %[12:57:02] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[12:58:04] <Strit_Laptop> ah okay.[12:58:21] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@host95-255-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[12:58:42] *** flawless <flawless!~flawless@hst-31-89.splius.lt> has joined #manjaro[12:58:42] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:00:46] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@xdsl-81-173-168-13.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[13:03:19] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:feaa:14ff:fe93:56bc> has quit IRC (Quit: I've had enough of this milarky... I'm off to do something more interesting instead...)[13:03:51] <Strit_Laptop> peetaur2, seems to be working if I define the user that needs to run it.[13:10:48] *** enkeys_ <enkeys_!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-bvctljueygzrxvfm> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[13:10:55] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-jmypcphubcsaupkp> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:11:07] <Strit_Laptop> alright. Seems to be working. Next step. 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A hand crafted IRC client)[14:28:07] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:28:29] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[14:30:11] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[14:32:27] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@80.215.236.107> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:33:50] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[14:34:28] <linux_dream> hi guys my manjaro won't boot. it gets stuck with a plymouthd : could not start boot spash : no such file or directory[14:37:05] <jeannie> Fresh install?[14:37:26] <linux_dream> yes though i removed some packages.[14:37:40] <jeannie> First reboot?[14:37:46] <linux_dream> according to the forum someone installed it, booted it ok, then rebooted it and fell on this problem. same as me[14:37:51] <linux_dream> 2nd[14:37:56] <geek> no linux-zen available in manjaro?[14:38:13] <vexare> jeannie: i thought you were banned on this channel[14:38:19] <linux_dream> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/muerte-por-glamour-mj-doesnt-boot-without-its-splash/1051/2 same problem as the next-to-last person[14:38:20] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/w2grvq] Muerte por glamour : Mj doesn't boot without its splash - Technical Issues and Assistance - Manjaro[14:38:46] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has joined #manjaro[14:38:48] <geek> can't believe :/[14:39:18] <linux_dream> should i reinstall manjaro and remove plymouth as suggested in the thread?[14:39:40] <linux_dream> yesterday i reinstalled manjaro to put it UEFI but i wasn't able. i can't find any UEFI option anywhere[14:39:52] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@46.185.244.60> has joined #manjaro[14:40:50] <linux_dream> or maybe i can chroot into my system[14:40:54] <linux_dream> remove plymouth[14:41:40] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@157.122.148.188> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:41:54] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.51> has joined #manjaro[14:41:59] <jeannie> Why would you want uefi?[14:42:59] <vexare> you could just remove plymouth from init[14:42:59] <vexare> it's useless anyway[14:43:23] <linux_dream> ok[14:43:32] <linux_dream> I have just booted the live version[14:43:39] <linux_dream> I'll chroot into my installed one[14:44:45] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@223.99.198.56> has joined #manjaro[14:47:50] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[14:49:32] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:51:33] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[14:53:41] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~manjaro@195.9.243.205> has joined #manjaro[14:53:48] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~manjaro@195.9.243.205> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:55:57] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@223.99.198.56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[14:56:21] <linux_dream> done[14:56:25] <linux_dream> let's see if this boots now[14:56:51] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-zdwjlwquewtemyzz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[14:57:38] <linux_dream> worked[14:57:45] <linux_dream> this fixed the problem[14:59:20] <vexare> ebin[15:03:58] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[15:06:45] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[15:11:15] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-eprcmwgpgajffgrw> has joined #manjaro[15:12:03] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:12:21] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:13:15] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[15:15:12] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@host95-255-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:15:43] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:15:53] <linux_dream> can pamac work as expected if I remove yaourt?[15:16:04] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has joined #manjaro[15:16:12] *** Nishikino-Maki1 <Nishikino-Maki1!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.51> has joined #manjaro[15:16:17] <linux_dream> I prefer to use cower to deal with AUR packages, not yaourt. so I'd like to remove it. but if this breaks pamac I won't do it[15:16:50] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@D97B89DC.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:16:50] <Frechdachs> it will remove AUR support from pamac[15:16:52] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.51> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:16:52] *** Nishikino-Maki1 is now known as Nishikino-Maki[15:17:02] <Frechdachs> you can still use the AUR, just not via pamac[15:17:12] <Frechdachs> yaourt is a optional dependency[15:17:12] <linux_dream> ok thank you[15:17:22] <linux_dream> I see. plus, AUR is disabled by default in pamac[15:17:23] <Frechdachs> s/a/an[15:17:45] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:18:12] <linux_dream> i can safely remove the packages ipw2100 and 2200 right? I'm cleaning up a little bit my manjaro install[15:18:14] *** JoeMaro <JoeMaro!~jojo@p57B40165.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[15:18:20] <linux_dream> (i installed it a few hours ago)[15:19:44] <JoeMaro> "java --version" gives an error "Unrecognized option: --version Could not create the Java Virtual Machine" is that weird or considered normal[15:20:02] <peetaur2> I like to live dangerous, so my rules say it's always safe to remove any packages ...because it'll tell you which things it also has to auto-remove which might tell you to stop, or it can simply be reinstalled :)[15:20:41] <Frechdachs> JoeMaro: it's java -version[15:20:48] <Frechdachs> single dash[15:21:02] <JoeMaro> :P thnx[15:21:25] <linux_dream> passed from 1011 to 825 packages in about 1 hour.[15:21:39] <linux_dream> my system is almost clean now . i can start to install my programs[15:22:36] <jeannie> That will install packages[15:23:14] <linux_dream> i know but at least i more or less know what my system consists of ^^[15:23:14] <Frechdachs> what's the appeal in trying to have as little packages as possible installed?[15:23:31] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[15:23:33] <linux_dream> I don't do that, else I would have went for arch[15:23:43] <linux_dream> I just don't need programs I'll never use[15:23:50] <linux_dream> like bluetooth stuff[15:23:56] <linux_dream> never used bluetooth in my whole life[15:24:05] <linux_dream> or printer packaques. I don't have a printer[15:24:11] <linux_dream> why on Earth would I let those packages?[15:24:23] <jeannie> Then why don't you build your system on a netinstall?[15:24:44] <linux_dream> because this would take more time. I like the look of manjaro and I don't want to configure xfce as to make it look like manjaro[15:24:52] <linux_dream> I'm done with removing the packages. took 1 hour[15:25:01] <linux_dream> net install is more than 1 hour to get the job done[15:25:06] <peetaur2> Frechdachs: fewer security holes, fewer things eating memory and disk space, less time and bandwidth used up during updates, and fewer "replace blah with blah-blubb-blarg [Y/n]" questions, etc.[15:25:28] <linux_dream> peetaur2, and you get to know what's installed on your system[15:25:35] <peetaur2> if you install via netinstall though, it'll already be very minimal... no bloat like steam (wtf why is that default on manjaro :D)[15:25:41] <linux_dream> I mean there's a package that checks for hebrew spelling in the default manjaro...[15:25:54] <peetaur2> yeah and you learn every part of it as you go, instead of constantly wondering 'wtf is this thing' as you go[15:26:17] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[15:26:38] <peetaur2> netinstall also doesn't add a DE, so you install that afterwards via command line[15:26:59] <linux_dream> anyway I prefered the xfce version over the net install. because my goal is not to get the minimum amount of packages installed. it's to get a quick system up working and already tweaked beautifully, except that I don't want "guayade, vlc, thunderbird and many more packages"[15:27:04] <peetaur2> (on some distros the minimal install doesn't even install man... I think manjaro does)[15:27:37] <linux_dream> guayadeque[15:27:51] <linux_dream> oh and pidgin[15:28:11] <jeannie> I recommend lfs...[15:28:22] <linux_dream> not for me[15:28:46] <jeannie> Of course[15:28:56] *** JoeMaro <JoeMaro!~jojo@p57B40165.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has left #manjaro[15:29:02] <linux_dream> also lfs lacks a package manager :D[15:29:09] <berm> Whom of you guys uses normal KDE?[15:29:11] <linux_dream> in the long run it's hard to maintain it[15:29:27] <linux_dream> what do you mean by normal, berm?[15:29:28] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:30:04] <peetaur2> berm: define normal[15:30:05] *** Zeadar <Zeadar!~looking@81-236-27-64-no206.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[15:30:05] *** Zeadar <Zeadar!~looking@81-236-27-64-no206.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[15:30:05] *** Zeadar <Zeadar!~looking@unaffiliated/zeadar> has joined #manjaro[15:30:15] <berm> standard KDE[15:30:25] <peetaur2> I use plasma5 ... and it's basically stable now too. I hated it when I was first forced to switch, but it's fine now.[15:30:31] <berm> The default one[15:30:43] <peetaur2> still no idea what you're talking about... a theme?[15:30:48] <berm> Yeah kinda[15:30:56] <berm> plasma I mean[15:31:02] <linux_dream> i think he's asking who typed "sudo pacman -S kde" and then no tweak[15:31:08] <berm> haha[15:31:09] <berm> yes[15:31:10] <peetaur2> berm: I use breeze dark with plasma5[15:31:22] <berm> What shortcuts do you guys use the most?[15:31:27] <berm> for me it's alt+tab[15:31:41] <berm> (switches betweed apps)[15:31:47] <berm> between[15:31:55] <peetaur2> such an advanced user you are[15:32:11] <linux_dream> ctrl + alt + t[15:32:15] <linux_dream> to start terminal[15:33:38] <peetaur2> I like alt+f2 to type in whatever I want...one shortcut to rule them all[15:33:39] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[15:33:39] <berm> Oh I am sorry I offended you peetaur2[15:34:05] <berm> peetaur2: alt + space is the same ;p (maybe quicker?)[15:34:10] <linux_dream> what rocks are the terminal aliases[15:34:24] <berm> I use alt + enter for my terminal[15:34:30] <berm> because I normally use i3[15:34:33] <peetaur2> weird...didn't know there was a 2nd shortcut for that[15:34:43] <berm> there is, atleast it works here :P[15:35:07] <linux_dream> i've got a terminal alias to generate random strings of chars, for example for quick password generation[15:35:14] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[15:35:24] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@77.233.11.223> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:35:31] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[15:36:00] <Matumaros> +peetaur2: is that a DE specific thing?[15:36:06] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@88-106-110-143.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has joined #manjaro[15:36:12] <peetaur2> Matumaros: I think it was originally a KDE thing and then others adopted it.[15:36:18] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@78.140.203.202> has joined #manjaro[15:36:25] <peetaur2> or maybe KDE got it from some old extinct thing I never heard of.[15:36:46] <Matumaros> +peetaur2: huh, interesting, I usually use the "Windows" key to open the activities thingy in Gnome[15:37:02] <berm> meta key[15:38:08] <peetaur2> yeah we don't say the W word here[15:38:20] <berm> Matumaros: go wash your mouth with soap[15:38:24] <berm> dammit[15:38:29] <berm> euh,[15:38:34] <berm> I meant fingers[15:38:44] <jeannie> Isn't that the "super" key?[15:39:07] <berm> in manjaro it's meta[15:39:12] <Matumaros> Windowscleaner :P[15:39:22] <Matumaros> thank you[15:39:22] <berm> go to shortcuts to see it in action jeannie[15:39:56] <Matumaros> I recently switched all my systems (except for where I work because I am forced to use Windows) to various Linux distros[15:40:03] <Matumaros> but Manjaro is my favorite so far[15:40:06] <berm> same[15:40:14] <jeannie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_key[15:40:15] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/rRjdNb] Meta key - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[15:41:07] <jeannie> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/keyboard-key-super.html.en[15:41:10] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/v4fbwB] What is the Super key?[15:42:12] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-13277.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[15:42:18] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@88-106-110-143.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[15:42:35] <Frechdachs> <berm> in manjaro it's meta <-- you probably mean KDE. here in cinnamon it's called Super[15:42:52] <Frechdachs> afaik meta is a key that's not found on modern layouts[15:42:56] <peetaur2> Matumaros: when you're forced, use a virtual machine. :) and when you are still forced, use gpu passthrough :)[15:43:43] <Matumaros> +peetaur2: I can't get a VM... :([15:44:44] <peetaur2> Matumaros: why not? any machine 10 years old can run a VM[15:45:24] <Matumaros> +peetaur2: it's my machine at work, they don't give me full permission on it[15:45:46] <Matumaros> and they usually don't allow software that is not certified by them[15:46:14] <peetaur2> Matumaros: can you install stuff via the windows store?[15:46:23] <Matumaros> I got the portable version of Sublime Text because of that...[15:46:26] *** john_rambo <john_rambo!~john_ramb@unaffiliated/john-rambo/x-5460353> has joined #manjaro[15:46:26] <peetaur2> I hear you can even if they lock it down... it's not a bug, it's a feature![15:46:41] <john_rambo> I want to enable spell check as I type on libreoffice writer. I have selected .... Tools > Language > For all text > English US ....but still its not checking the spellings...What to do ?[15:46:46] <Matumaros> +peetaur2: well, I would like to keep this job, at least for a while :D[15:47:18] <Matumaros> john_rambo: have you tried to turn it off and on again? :)[15:47:58] <john_rambo> Matumaros, I just did but no response[15:48:26] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[15:48:43] <marco-parillo> They may certify VMware. 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using the keyboard, use mc. it has dual panes and can be controlled by the keyboard alone[19:02:43] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:02:50] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[19:03:04] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[19:03:15] *** flipper <flipper!~filip-cin@95.211.168.228> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[19:03:19] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[19:03:19] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:03:19] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[19:03:30] <Strit_Laptop> would ctrl+c -> tab -> ctrl+v work?[19:03:46] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[19:03:47] <Strit_Laptop> or mv instead of cp for moving.[19:03:52] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!~Matumaros@aftr-88-217-181-67.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:04:46] *** BlockyNight <BlockyNight!~jon@78.143.169.70> has joined #manjaro[19:05:19] <CountryfiedLinux> You can now run Ubuntu on Windows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjXHideIsvo[19:05:20] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/YnmyeT] You Can Now Run Ubuntu On Windows - YouTube[19:05:38] <Strit_Laptop> been in insider preview for a while...[19:07:17] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@186.82.70.156> has joined #manjaro[19:09:07] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[19:09:54] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has joined #manjaro[19:09:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v thenewone[19:10:03] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:10:32] <thenewone> Hi guys[19:10:33] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:10:37] <thenewone> dodgejcr: sup man[19:12:52] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:12:53] <thenewone> is there any shurtcut for manjaro-jwm ?[19:13:01] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has joined #manjaro[19:15:07] <gpunk> hi[19:15:17] <gpunk> while updating a manjaro 15.12 i have this[19:15:17] <thenewone> Hi[19:15:20] <gpunk> error: key "8DB9F8C18DF53602" could not be looked up remotely[19:15:51] <thenewone> try this[19:15:55] <thenewone> sudo pacman -Syyuu[19:16:07] <thenewone> it's been while i didn't try manjaro[19:16:16] <thenewone> just finished the installation yesterday :D[19:16:28] <Vlado9A> gpunk: sudo pacman -S manjaro-keyring[19:16:39] <Vlado9A> gpunk: sudo pacman -S archlinux-keyring[19:17:05] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@ppp91-122-151-194.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru> has joined #manjaro[19:17:05] <gpunk> thnx[19:17:10] <Vlado9A> gpunk: sudo pacman -Syyuu (as thenewone said)[19:17:34] <thenewone> manjaro-jwm like it :)[19:17:37] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[19:17:53] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:19:04] *** linux-dream <linux-dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:19:56] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:19:57] <Strit_Laptop> gpunk, update your keyrings: "sudo pacman -S archlinux-keyring manjaro-keyring"[19:19:59] <gpunk> thnx vlado9a[19:20:16] <gpunk> yes , it s ongoing now[19:20:20] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[19:20:41] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[19:20:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[19:21:20] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[19:21:24] <Vlado9A> you're welcome gpunk[19:21:39] <gpunk> Vlado9A you use Russia's mirror ?[19:21:57] <Vlado9A> I don't know which mirrors I use :)[19:22:03] <gpunk> lol ok :)[19:22:25] <gpunk> in the wiki, my new mirror is mentionned , in case of.[19:22:31] <thenewone> use rankmirriors to get the fastets mirrors for you[19:22:31] <berm> Anyone here knows how I can get a graphicel interface about my processor (heat, cores, ghz etc)[19:22:36] <berm> is there a name for that?[19:22:49] <gpunk> what desktop are u using ?[19:22:56] <berm> KDE[19:23:08] <Vlado9A> berm: sudo pacman -S inxi[19:23:11] <berm> I found some apps, but those were static[19:23:13] <gpunk> u v gor plenty of applets for that[19:23:16] <Vlado9A> inxi -S[19:23:20] <gpunk> like system monitor[19:23:24] <thenewone> yes[19:23:44] <berm> gpunk: where is the heat than?[19:24:06] <gpunk> i dont know it under kde[19:24:21] <gpunk> look for Sensors[19:25:01] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[19:26:09] *** Sailor <Sailor!~Sailor@p5DE396D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:26:46] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:28:09] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:28:16] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~makaveli@46.197.149.93> has joined #manjaro[19:28:22] <thenewone> berm: look for xsensors[19:28:31] <flipper-maniac> hi guys, I have an issue with my sddm service on my desktop http://hastebin.com/nodozemojo[19:28:32] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/XZyQGO] hastebin[19:28:55] <berm> thenewone: aha, thanks[19:29:36] <thenewone> welcome[19:29:46] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!~Matumaros@aftr-88-217-181-67.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #manjaro[19:31:32] <thenewone> flipper-maniac: did you enabled the service ?[19:31:47] <flipper-maniac> first I was on gdm[19:31:58] <flipper-maniac> on cinnamon[19:32:07] <thenewone> sudo systemctl enable ssdm && sudo systemctl start ssdm.service[19:32:09] <thenewone> try this[19:32:11] <thenewone> and stop gdm[19:32:23] <thenewone> i just wookup[19:32:41] <thenewone> i feel lazy little bit[19:32:53] <flipper-maniac> well I installed sddm, stopped gdm, force enabled sddm and it was working fine at first[19:33:09] <thenewone> yes[19:33:19] <thenewone> flipper-maniac: try to disable gdm[19:33:36] <thenewone> change stop => disable[19:33:50] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:34:00] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[19:34:17] <flipper-maniac> ╰─ ► sudo systemctl disable gdm[19:34:17] <flipper-maniac> Failed to disable unit: No such file or directory[19:34:56] <thenewone> sudo systemctl disable dgm.service[19:35:00] <thenewone> add .service[19:35:02] <Strit_Laptop> yep, that's because you force enabled sddm. :)[19:35:21] <flipper-maniac> hmm[19:35:37] <flipper-maniac> gdm service is already gone[19:36:06] <flipper-maniac> Strit_Laptop, yes but that was what I saw in the Manjaro wiki[19:36:42] <flipper-maniac> I think I have to relink the displaymanager file?[19:37:15] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[19:37:26] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:39:17] <flipper-maniac> thenewone, will try that command again, let me reboot[19:41:30] <flipper-maniac> still the same error[19:42:23] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[19:44:07] <flipper-maniac> from the journalctl http://hastebin.com/pogetufuxa[19:44:08] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/UAHlf6] hastebin[19:44:08] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has joined 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I have it installed and working[19:56:51] *** thenewone1 <thenewone1!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has joined #manjaro[19:56:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v thenewone1[19:57:53] <Strit_Laptop> I'm using wine-staging instead of regular wine though. Don't know if it should make a difference.[19:59:15] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p200300E10BC024002C7309FFFEFCEC9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:59:26] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[20:01:56] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has joined #manjaro[20:03:03] *** mudzi <mudzi!~mudzi@c-540fe555.015-206-73746f36.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:03:41] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@stc.24.90.188.95.dsl.krasnet.ru> has joined #manjaro[20:04:35] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@stc.24.90.188.95.dsl.krasnet.ru> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:04:56] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@143-122-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #manjaro[20:05:12] <berm> How's the standard name of the default KDE again?[20:06:39] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[20:09:33] *** mac1202 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<Official-Tr0ll> this has developed into a fun place just like the forum[22:55:40] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:58:27] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[23:00:06] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[23:01:10] <berm> Yeah[23:01:57] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[23:05:23] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:08:56] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991637.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:12:18] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.51> has quit IRC (Quit: Nishikino-Maki)[23:17:12] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[23:17:52] *** 7JTABBN4A 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<linux-dream> the problem is that I run some commands to clean my .histfile . but when I close the terminal, these commands are undone[23:31:47] <linux-dream> because the .histfile is rewriten with the information in RAM I guess[23:32:01] <linux-dream> I don't have this behavior in arch linux . only in manjaro[23:33:28] <manjaro_flux> the default behaviour would be for the bash shell to cahe the contents in ram, and write the contents when it's closed, yes. some people add entries in their .profile/.bash_profile, etc to change that behavior.[23:33:30] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p200300E10BC024002C7309FFFEFCEC9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:34:17] <manjaro_flux> you can look at your profile under Arch to see how its set up. Some people choose to confgure to flush the cache after every entry, but that's not by 'default'[23:35:00] <linux-dream> oh I see , I didn't know this[23:35:07] <linux-dream> thank you very much[23:36:48] <linux-dream> one stupid question though, if .histfile is rewritten only when I close the terminal, how come pressing the upper key retrieve the last(s) entered command(s) ?[23:36:56] <linux-dream> thanks to RAM?[23:38:16] *** deathonater <deathonater!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[23:38:40] <manjaro_flux> yes... when bash loads, it reads in the contents of the history, and each bash instance tracks it's own history. Makes for other problems when several bash (ie - xfce-terminal) have been running for a while, for the last to close overwrites the prior[23:38:54] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[23:39:00] *** deathonater is now known as Smeef[23:39:53] <linux-dream> I did not know this. thanks 1 million[23:41:09] <manjaro_flux> you're welcome.[23:41:35] *** Daifuco <Daifuco!~smuxi@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust274.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[23:43:51] <Daifuco> Hi. I have just noticed that if I click on the "account settings" submenu on the topbar (gnome) it shows that My Account type is "administrator". Is that normal?[23:44:25] <Daifuco> in the old times you were supposed to create a user account and then a normal account but that sounds like the 90s to me[23:46:20] *** Official-Tr0ll <Official-Tr0ll!~Official-@190.212.110.43> has quit IRC (Quit: adios)[23:46:22] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@46.185.186.75> has joined #manjaro[23:51:01] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@95.5.3.88> has joined #manjaro[23:51:09] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@95.5.3.88> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:56:09] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@p5B141740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[23:57:30] <Aria22> I am pleasantly surprised by the state of gaming on linux nowadays :3