July 8, 2016 
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quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:44:26] *** aeryndunham <aeryndunham!~aeryndunh@S0106789684bfab50.ok.shawcable.net> has joined #manjaro[02:53:48] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:59:32] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[02:59:44] <linux_dream> hi guys i want to install manjaro in uefi mode. thus or calamares?[03:07:52] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[03:08:14] <tmsbrdrs> I did it with thus, worked out well for me[03:08:31] *** alphad <alphad!uid112882@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pcgbtlkscvgeqfde> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[03:09:23] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[03:11:10] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@user-36c5b4e.cable.mindspring.com> has joined #manjaro[03:12:14] <linux_dream> uh facepalm[03:12:24] <linux_dream> i set swap and it put ext2 instead[03:12:55] <linux_dream> fixed[03:15:05] <day|flip> swap is only need from hibernating. if you don't plan on installing xscreensaver. you should be fine. also having up to 4gb of ram[03:18:32] <linux_dream> i sometimes program in python and when i do so, i mess up[03:18:39] <linux_dream> i fill all my ram and then start using swap[03:18:48] <linux_dream> if i dont have swap i think my cpu would froze entirely[03:18:56] <linux_dream> i haven't tried but I guess so[03:19:05] <linux_dream> in which case I'd rather have a few swap[03:19:21] <day|flip> there something called swapfile. but it can be slower[03:19:27] <day|flip> vs swap[03:19:46] <day|flip> swap in the ram and swapfile in the hdd[03:21:18] <day|flip> It is very easy to change the swap file size, compared with resizing a swap partition. There is a slight performance benefit, because the swap area is in the middle of the normal file area, so head movements will be smaller (unless the swap partition is on a separate physical disc, when a swap partition will perform better).[03:21:33] <day|flip> The main disadvantage is that you won't be able to hibernate.[03:21:42] <day|flip> that for swap file[03:23:37] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.194> has joined #manjaro[03:24:51] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p508184E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:29:41] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.144> has joined #manjaro[03:37:05] *** IamRight <IamRight!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:37:05] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@host-174-45-178-216.chy-wy.client.bresnan.net> has joined #manjaro[03:37:16] <manjaro> Hi can I get some tips on installing here?[03:37:37] <manjaro> I've got a fakeraid RAID0 setup here and I wanna make sure I do it right[03:37:53] <manjaro> totally new to Manjaro[03:40:13] <manjaro> I've got GParted up here and I don't see my raid partitions[03:40:22] <manjaro> so I'm guessing I need to load up dmraid or something first?[03:41:35] *** birdman <birdman!~adn@161.157.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[03:42:11] <manjaro> Looks like dmraid is on the live dvd at least[03:42:19] <manjaro> but it doesn't appear to run by default[03:43:29] <manjaro> ah there we go sudo dmraid -ay[03:44:05] <manjaro> Since this wasn't on by default in the live DVD, how can I ensure that it loads up on boot once I actually install?[03:44:51] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:45:51] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.144> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:46:01] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.139> has joined #manjaro[03:47:23] *** birdman <birdman!~adn@161.157.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:48:19] *** Pablo_ <Pablo_!~Pablo@177.42.100.251> has joined #manjaro[03:48:27] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@179.252.3.230> has joined #manjaro[03:48:37] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[03:53:18] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@217.73.143.14> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:55:05] *** ace139 <ace139!~Soumyo@123.63.8.246> has joined #manjaro[03:55:52] <manjaro> Well... It looks like simply turning dmraid on wasn't enough[03:56:05] <manjaro> I can't get Calamares to detect my RAID array[03:56:18] <manjaro> so that I can choose the right partition for installation[03:57:11] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@217.73.143.14> has joined #manjaro[03:57:33] <ace139> I am using Manjaro 16.06 Gnome Community Edition, I have encountered a bug I suppose, I would like to confirm. pressing the F2 key for renaming a file is opening up the Menu. Could someone confirm. Hence a bug can be reported.[03:57:54] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:57:56] *** manjaro is now known as manjaroraiduser[03:58:49] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.139> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[04:01:17] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has joined #manjaro[04:01:22] <ace139> Where is the official site for reporting a bug in Manjaro ?[04:02:29] <manjaroraiduser> probably on github somewhere[04:03:10] <manjaroraiduser> How do I make Manjaro's installer detect my RAID partitions properly?[04:15:19] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[04:15:53] <tmsbrdrs> ace, I'm using the same edition, can't confirm. f2 works for renaming files for me[04:20:28] <ace139> tmsbrdrs, strange.[04:20:54] <tmsbrdrs> yep. tried it on three files just to be sure but it worked every time[04:21:43] <ace139> tmsbrdrs, You have the Menu dropdown in the top-left corner right ?[04:22:23] <tmsbrdrs> I just have standard gnome 3.20[04:22:55] <ace139> okay, maybe thats the issue. I am using the customized gnome which shipped with the Manjaro Version.[04:23:23] <ace139> tmsbrdrs, any idea where to report the bug ?[04:23:30] <tmsbrdrs> I upgraded from the previous version. did you install the newest version?[04:23:51] <ace139> tmsbrdrs, yes I did a fresh install of the newest version.[04:23:57] <tmsbrdrs> I've always just posted on the manjaro forums. doesn't usually take long[04:24:17] <tmsbrdrs> ok so it may be something that was changed in the most recent version then[04:24:31] <ace139> tmsbrdrs, okay, let me post there only.[04:24:44] <ace139> tmsbrdrs, somebody should respond.[04:25:32] <tmsbrdrs> it's the most visible place at the very least. someone may have reported already so check first to be sure[04:26:51] *** aeryndunham <aeryndunham!~aeryndunh@S0106789684bfab50.ok.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[04:27:18] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[04:34:53] *** tobinski_ 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In fact, never play this again.)[08:57:26] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@user-36c5b4e.cable.mindspring.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:09:09] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a01:e35:8b24:b620:a19e:f220:c47a:6a85> has joined #manjaro[09:09:31] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a01:e35:8b24:b620:a19e:f220:c47a:6a85> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:10:04] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991BC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:14:43] *** not_dommot <not_dommot!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:15:08] *** not_dommot <not_dommot!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[09:20:13] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[09:22:28] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[09:37:06] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@201.230.158.56> has joined #manjaro[09:37:52] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as DevLews[09:39:02] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[09:40:31] *** hai <hai!~hai_bar@92.253.108.63> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:42:13] *** FES <FES!~manjaro-k@2001:a60:b003:1:6845:3f9a:3f7c:666d> has joined #manjaro[09:42:52] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.156> has joined #manjaro[09:45:10] *** aeronaurie <aeronaurie!75c3f81a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.117.195.248.26> has joined #manjaro[09:45:17] <aeronaurie> hello[09:45:26] <aeronaurie> is anyone here??[09:45:59] *** aeronaurie <aeronaurie!75c3f81a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.117.195.248.26> has quit IRC (K-Lined)[09:48:17] *** FES <FES!~manjaro-k@2001:a60:b003:1:6845:3f9a:3f7c:666d> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:48:26] *** FES <FES!~manjaro-k@2001:a60:b003:1:6845:3f9a:3f7c:666d> has joined #manjaro[09:48:32] *** FES <FES!~manjaro-k@2001:a60:b003:1:6845:3f9a:3f7c:666d> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:48:47] *** legitfes <legitfes!~manjaro-k@2001:a60:b003:1:6845:3f9a:3f7c:666d> has joined #manjaro[09:49:37] *** DevLews <DevLews!~manjaro-k@201.230.158.56> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:50:47] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[09:50:54] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:52:45] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:57:13] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.156> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:58:25] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.156> has joined #manjaro[10:03:46] *** enkeys <enkeys!~enkeys@novlen.lit.rev-fortech.cz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:04:59] *** enkeys <enkeys!~enkeys@novlen.lit.rev-fortech.cz> has joined #manjaro[10:15:09] *** ghvail|wtf <ghvail|wtf!~ghavil@unaffiliated/geekatcomputers> has joined #manjaro[10:15:51] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991BC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:16:06] *** ghavil <ghavil!~ghavil@unaffiliated/geekatcomputers> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:17:49] *** user123irc_ <user123irc_!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[10:17:58] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[10:18:26] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@xdsl-87-79-191-221.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[10:18:28] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:155a:5::1002> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:19:30] <prillian5> my bluetooth audio didn't work anymore on KDE. Is this a known bug after last upgrade?[10:19:57] *** Amplificator <Amplificator!~quassel@unaffiliated/amplificator> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:20:34] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[10:23:57] <prillian5> ok, was a fail by my mobile-phone. 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Only problem I have with firefox is that it eventually get slow and unusable (after many days), and restarting it fixes it.[10:56:59] <peetaur2> (and that'll probably be fixed when they finally separate every page and plugin into its own process)[10:57:27] <jaskij> peetaur2 turns out I had firefox-gtk2 and it depended on hunspell 1.3, which got dropped after I updated yesterday[10:58:01] <jaskij> so I was stuck at FF 45.0.2[10:58:07] <jaskij> after install firefox 47 it works[10:58:08] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:58:16] <peetaur2> getting stuck on a browser version is a likely security issue[10:58:23] <peetaur2> why do you need the gtk2 one?[10:58:29] <jaskij> I don't[10:58:31] <peetaur2> I didn't know such a thing exists, and can't imagine why it should[10:58:57] <jaskij> it either came with the release or it was called firefox and renamed later[10:59:18] <jaskij> bummer is that now I don't have an icon for firefox in gnome :/[10:59:23] <jaskij> (I'm using gnome 3)[10:59:42] <kieerjon> peetaur2, i use grsec and how can i change the CONFIG_PAX_KERNEXEC option ?[10:59:52] <kieerjon> across reboots[10:59:55] <peetaur2> I find if an icon goes away you just remove the shortcut and make it again, and it's fixed[11:00:32] <peetaur2> kieerjon: that looks like a config option which must be set when you build the kernel[11:00:56] *** not_dommot <not_dommot!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:01:23] <jaskij> peetaur2, if I knew hot to remove a shortcut from gnome that would be nice :) that's one of the reasons I use Manjaro: it's easy to use but still most of the stuff can be done from the terminal without breaking anything[11:01:46] *** legitfes <legitfes!~manjaro-k@2001:a60:b003:1:6845:3f9a:3f7c:666d> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[11:01:55] <kieerjon> so, i just install the package i dont build manually ? so how can i do it earlier?[11:02:14] <jaskij> kieerjon, you would need to rebuild kernel with that option, make a new initcpio and then add it to GRUB, so finally you would chose one or the other in GRUB[11:02:44] *** not_dommot <not_dommot!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[11:02:58] <jaskij> your current config is gzipped in /proc/config.gz[11:03:33] <kieerjon> do you have any idea how can i rebuild the kernel? in arch it is discouraged as it can ruin everything, and just install the linux-grsec pakage and it build itslef[11:03:53] <kieerjon> linux-grsec kernel is binary i think[11:04:05] <kieerjon> so i cant rebuild it, it is 'as is'[11:04:19] <peetaur2> kieerjon: building from AUR?[11:04:39] <peetaur2> and I would think nobody would ever say doing anything custom in arch is discouraged...[11:04:47] <jaskij> mhm, or if Arch and Manjaro don't patch the kernel you could just grab the source from git[11:04:58] <peetaur2> just don't uninstall the working kernel, so you can always fall back to it, and it'll be fine.[11:05:29] <peetaur2> kieerjon: building it is easy enough... but the method depends on some questions along the way[11:05:58] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:06:02] <peetaur2> so is it from aur, such as this? https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-libre-grsec/[11:06:03] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/tJF7IO] AUR (en) - linux-libre-grsec[11:06:34] <peetaur2> to build that manually and modify it, just click on the right "download snapshot" and save that and extract it somewhere, then to build just run "makepkg"[11:06:41] <peetaur2> but before makepkg, we should modify it[11:07:14] <kieerjon> i know makepkg well nad have used it several times[11:07:47] <kieerjon> why libre-grsec not linux-grsec? cani do with linux-grsec?[11:08:01] <peetaur2> I linked this because I couldn't find linux-grsec[11:08:12] <peetaur2> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-grsec/ 404 not found[11:08:13] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/8Tn8AH] (link was unresponsive: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-grsec/)[11:08:16] <kieerjon> its in the official repo[11:08:31] <peetaur2> which repo?[11:08:35] <peetaur2> it's not in official manjaro repos.[11:08:54] <kieerjon> ok[11:09:07] <peetaur2> ok well I see it in arch main repos...[11:09:07] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[11:09:11] <peetaur2> you can also get the tarball from there[11:09:44] <peetaur2> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/linux-grsec/ so this one has no tarball maybe, so you have to dl the files here https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk?h=packages/linux-grsec[11:09:46] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/fTYOW1] Arch Linux - linux-grsec 4.6.3.201607070721-1 (x86_64)[11:09:55] <kieerjon> i can do pacman -Sw linux-grsec , and have it already in my cache as .tar file[11:10:11] <peetaur2> and just to be sure, you're using Arch, not Manjaro, right?[11:10:15] <kieerjon> yes[11:10:37] <peetaur2> ok. And I don't mind helping with that, but make sure you declare things like that so people aren't confused.[11:10:47] <peetaur2> So in this case, you pacman is installing binaries, not building it.[11:11:10] <peetaur2> so if you want to change that option, you'll have to build it like I suggested[11:11:44] <peetaur2> (also it's better to build grsec yourself anyway... it does some randomization for security and if someone can get the same vmlinuz file as you or can read yours, they can more easily develop an exploit)[11:12:24] *** not_dommot <not_dommot!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[11:12:41] *** Manj-1509-Lxde <Manj-1509-Lxde!~manjaro@dslb-188-098-120-047.188.098.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[11:12:49] *** Manj-1509-Lxde2 <Manj-1509-Lxde2!~manjaro@dslb-188-098-120-047.188.098.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[11:12:49] *** Manj-1509-Lxde2 <Manj-1509-Lxde2!~manjaro@dslb-188-098-120-047.188.098.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:13:56] *** Manj-1509-Lxde <Manj-1509-Lxde!~manjaro@dslb-188-098-120-047.188.098.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:14:39] *** SuperSteve <SuperSteve!~steve@124-171-73-172.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[11:15:28] <kieerjon> so the main question is which file i use to change config?[11:15:33] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@151.247.242.165> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:16:06] <kieerjon> i havent seen the files yet,but wold know before hand[11:18:31] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has joined #manjaro[11:18:45] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[11:23:22] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:25:54] <kieerjon> peetaur2, how did you get the https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk?h=packages/linux-grsec from arch's home[11:25:55] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/KXXMR5] svntogit/community.git - Git clone of the 'community' repository[11:26:19] <kieerjon> under development in git i search for grsec but dont find anything[11:26:53] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[11:28:15] <kieerjon> i got https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/?h=packages/linux-grsec under git[11:28:15] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/ZdPZmi] svntogit/community.git - Git clone of the 'community' repository[11:28:22] <peetaur2> kieerjon: I just went to https://www.archlinux.org/packages (which I got from going to aur.archlinux.org which is easier to pull from browser history) and then searched for linux-grsec[11:28:25] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/o9TVok] Arch Linux - Package Search[11:29:30] *** nostrora <nostrora!587d94ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.125.148.171> has joined #manjaro[11:29:44] <nostrora> hello, i can't boot latest manjaro gnome. in vmware. can you help me ?[11:31:13] <kieerjon> so i got https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/linux-grsec/ but not https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk?h=packages/linux-grsec[11:31:13] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/fTYOW1] Arch Linux - linux-grsec 4.6.3.201607070721-1 (x86_64)[11:31:39] *** scachemaille <scachemaille!2ee2da14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.226.218.20> has joined #manjaro[11:32:38] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[11:34:06] <kieerjon> ohh source files,got it[11:34:29] <kieerjon> nostrora, why dont u use virtualbox? its easy[11:34:39] *** alexnadros_c <alexnadros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:34:49] <nostrora> kieerjon: i want to use vmware[11:35:13] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~inma@143.red-83-46-193.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[11:35:15] <kieerjon> why?[11:35:16] <nostrora> kieerjon: manjaro is normally working on vmware[11:35:40] <nostrora> so i want to use it, the question is not why i want to use vmware :([11:35:54] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[11:35:56] <kieerjon> try reinstalling it[11:36:11] <kieerjon> for me it always works in virutalbox[11:36:56] <kieerjon> you have to remove the .iso of manjaro if you use iso file to install it,other wise it will boot the live CD[11:37:12] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@217.73.143.14> has joined #manjaro[11:37:46] <nostrora> kieerjon: livecd don't boot[11:38:05] <nostrora> kieerjon: i just get this : http://i.imgur.com/C0tvAlP.png[11:38:06] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/2kVmLH] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[11:38:07] <kieerjon> i mean iso, it thinks live CD is inserted[11:38:24] <kieerjon> which method did you use to install in VM?[11:39:10] <nostrora> kieerjon: i don't install for now i just want to boot the livecd[11:39:24] <kieerjon> yes so it is booting,or it gets stuck?[11:39:46] <nostrora> kieerjon: stuck here http://i.imgur.com/C0tvAlP.png[11:39:46] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/2kVmLH] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[11:40:37] <nostrora> kieerjon: do you see the screen ?[11:40:52] <kieerjon> so the live CD stuck? u just said the installed OS stuck[11:40:58] <kieerjon> yes ido see it[11:41:04] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[11:41:05] <kieerjon> let me install vmware and try it[11:41:15] <nostrora> kieerjon: yes sorry, is the livecd stuck at boot[11:41:24] <nostrora> kieerjon: oh. you're nice :)[11:41:44] <kieerjon> pacman -S vmware ->not found[11:42:07] <kieerjon> open-vm-tools ?[11:42:17] <nostrora> kieerjon: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VMware[11:42:18] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/ouv40K] VMware - ArchWiki[11:43:02] <nostrora> Nevermind..[11:43:20] <nostrora> and i can't boot livecd on my computer :/ black screen[11:43:24] *** SuperSteve <SuperSteve!~steve@124-171-73-172.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:45:34] *** scachemaille <scachemaille!2ee2da14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.226.218.20> has left #manjaro[11:45:38] *** nostrora <nostrora!587d94ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.125.148.171> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[11:46:11] *** display <display!4d0b16dc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.11.22.220> has joined #manjaro[11:46:16] <kieerjon> vmware-patch-12.0.0-4 has been flagged out of date on 2016-05-10[11:46:23] <kieerjon> did u install that package?[11:46:54] <kieerjon> that might be one reason. missing dependies another[11:47:08] <display> after playing pinball in fullscreen i have 2 resolutions of my screen - 640*480 and 864*486 . Wtf?![11:48:51] <display> http://i.imgur.com/uWZoUyE.png[11:48:51] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/gfWEMQ] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[11:50:24] <kieerjon> display, great then choose the resolutiion u want![11:50:49] <display> im not running manjaro on a nokia from 2002[11:51:03] <display> where is fHD[11:51:10] <kieerjon> what is fhd[11:51:22] <display> fullHD 1920*1080[11:52:01] <Nishikino-Maki> GT430 VGA+DVI dual display will that's fine[11:52:01] <Nishikino-Maki> but when i put HDMI? "this gpu only support dual-display"[11:52:01] <Nishikino-Maki> will great job nvidia...[11:52:35] <Nishikino-Maki> will → well[11:57:15] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[11:59:00] *** elliot007 <elliot007!~elliot@103.254.56.102> has joined #manjaro[12:01:21] <display> ok i found something called xrandr[12:01:58] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[12:02:28] <peetaur2> display: fyi, list devices: xrandr | grep -E "^[a-zA-Z0-9-]+ connected" | awk '{print $1}'[12:02:41] <peetaur2> set a primary screen resolution with the first device xrandr -s 1920x1080 --screen 0 --output "${devices[0]}" --auto --primary[12:02:51] <display> and when i look for my screen with "xrand --current" it shows me this http://pastebin.com/83ZvMjht[12:02:52] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/5MWJHx] xrandr --current Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 864 x 486, maximum 32767 x 32 - Pastebin.com[12:03:00] <peetaur2> may as well give you this format which makes that array devices=($(xrandr | grep -E "^[a-zA-Z0-9-]+ connected" | awk '{print $1}'))[12:03:16] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B208C83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:03:27] <display> wat[12:03:37] <display> what should i copy pasta +peetaur2[12:03:48] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~inma@143.red-83-46-193.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:04:10] <kieerjon> display, find out which display u have? on desktop u probably have VGA-1[12:04:16] <peetaur2> run the first thing to list devices[12:04:35] <kieerjon> display, its funny you cant find your own monitor display[12:04:37] <peetaur2> run the 3rd to build it in a format the 2nd works with .... run 2nd to make the first your primary device at 1080p[12:04:42] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@94.10.95.44> has joined #manjaro[12:04:53] <display> it says its eDP1 when using grep[12:04:55] <peetaur2> and then for example my 2nd monitor isn't 1080p, so it looks like xrandr -s 1280x1024 --screen 0 --output "${devices[1]}" --auto --right-of "${devices[0]}"[12:05:12] <peetaur2> oh and run IFS=$'\n' to make the 3rd command work :)[12:05:41] <peetaur2> display: how about I just give you the whole unbroken script and you can run it in parts to inspect it https://bpaste.net/show/ce96b2637a0a[12:05:41] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/QbEOXB] show at bpaste[12:06:12] <display> ok thx thats neat, on it[12:06:18] <display> i dont get whats funny tho[12:07:11] <peetaur2> display: he is talking about your name being display and you can't find a display[12:07:56] <display> oh ok haha[12:09:39] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[12:11:31] *** manjaro-web|1043 <manjaro-web|1043!908a37b7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.144.138.55.183> has joined #manjaro[12:12:23] <display> ok i ran everything and i still have shitstain resolution[12:12:35] <display> and no choice for fHD either[12:13:15] <peetaur2> maybe the game has downgraded your monitor's firmware so it no longer supports 1080p[12:13:33] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@151.247.242.165> has joined #manjaro[12:13:34] <elliot007> I was struggling with using cantata as it was showing all the list but not playing, I checked everything but can't find out what was wrong[12:13:47] *** manjaro-web|1043 <manjaro-web|1043!908a37b7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.144.138.55.183> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:14:00] <elliot007> i just found out that the songs were on the partition which was not mounted lol[12:14:33] <display> so, what's the fix?[12:14:52] <display> does linux have to break every 5 days..[12:15:21] <peetaur2> display: just restart x...[12:15:46] <display> restart x wat?[12:16:47] <peetaur2> log out and back in[12:16:58] <peetaur2> if that doesn't fix it, log out, hit ctrl-alt-backspace to kill x, and log in[12:17:10] <display> ok[12:17:10] <peetaur2> x is supposed to restart when you log out[12:17:40] *** display <display!4d0b16dc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.11.22.220> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[12:18:39] <kieerjon> pkill -u user --> that would do[12:18:52] *** display <display!4d0b16dc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.11.22.220> has joined #manjaro[12:19:00] <kieerjon> pkill -u user --> that would do[12:19:05] <display> ok, enough manjaro for today[12:23:36] <display> i solved it, but fml this shit is reason why linux never will be desktop[12:24:00] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[12:25:02] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[12:28:10] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@z172191.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #manjaro[12:28:12] *** manj-1603-Lxde2 <manj-1603-Lxde2!~manjaro@z172191.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #manjaro[12:28:53] *** manj-1603-Lxde2 <manj-1603-Lxde2!~manjaro@z172191.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:29:06] <zero-ghost> display: linux is the only desktop for millions around the world[12:29:19] <zero-ghost> sometimes its rough[12:29:21] <zero-ghost> just like windows[12:29:36] <zero-ghost> but for some reason people dilude themselves into thinking windows bullshit problems are "acceptable"[12:29:53] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@z172191.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:29:55] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:29:58] <zero-ghost> most people just give up and have some techie format their windows computer or they just throw their computer out and get another one[12:30:11] *** legitfes <legitfes!~manjaro-k@2001:a60:b003:1:2971:340f:50db:e464> has joined #manjaro[12:30:14] *** Attunga_ <Attunga_!~Attunga@124-171-74-246.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:30:30] <elliot007> hey hey linux is for pros[12:30:33] <elliot007> thats it[12:30:41] <peetaur2> my view on that is that there is a big range of perfectly stable and better than windows to basically stable but crashy and work to fix but still more flexible and enjoyable than windows ... if you can tolerate that sort of thing.[12:30:43] *** Attunga <Attunga!~Attunga@124-171-74-246.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[12:31:06] <peetaur2> just people that think windows is the easiest, greatest, etc. tend to give up when they pick a crashy distro like fedora, ubuntu (especially unity), arch[12:31:52] <peetaur2> and upstream doesn't always support the old stable type of model (eg. qemu supports old releases, linux kernel does too, but x and kde push you to the latest broken release ...ugh)[12:32:04] <elliot007> peetaur2: I agree, if you want perfectly stable distro then go with Debian[12:36:57] <sgm> question, is there any easy way to install catalyst 15.12?[12:37:36] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[12:37:41] <sgm> like can i somehow have access to the historical driver package instead of the aur one which doesn't quite work[12:38:00] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-178-203-184-121.hsi10.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[12:38:14] <peetaur2> sgm: are you aware that you're supposed to use amdgpu rather than catalyst for newer X versions?[12:38:40] <peetaur2> which is an open driver (far superior that way) but not necessarily more stable than radeon and not necessarily faster than catalyst yet[12:39:00] <sgm> I need it for opencl.. and the program i use is optimised for 15.12 driver[12:39:46] <display> lul never have i ever had bugs with windows except for my hp multiprinter, i go stick with 7 ti it ends, maybe by now linux wont break after playing a game[12:39:56] <sgm> but i will give amdgpu a try, to check performance[12:39:59] *** display <display!4d0b16dc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.11.22.220> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[12:40:29] *** rx480 <rx480!4d0b16dc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.11.22.220> has joined #manjaro[12:40:42] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[12:40:54] <rx480> hey guys, do you know how good an rx480 will work on linux?[12:40:55] <peetaur2> not sure if I see more bugs with windows, but I see 1000x times the limitations that bug me and waste my time[12:40:59] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[12:41:27] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:41:43] <peetaur2> and since hardware supports it, now I run only linux on my desktop, and run windows only in virtual machines, with graphics cards passed in for playing games at near full performance :)[12:41:46] <rx480> im thinking of upgrading my dual boot manj pc, hence the question[12:42:28] *** legitfes <legitfes!~manjaro-k@2001:a60:b003:1:2971:340f:50db:e464> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[12:42:34] <peetaur2> dunno about rx480, but I have a Radeon R7 360 and 260x which both work fine.[12:43:49] <rx480> well ye but will i have to wait 4 years til the drivers use 100% of cards power, thats the question or maybe just buy a 970[12:43:57] <kieerjon> peetaur2, in VM windows how come its not slow,and gives performance for games?[12:46:08] <peetaur2> kieerjon: with qemu+linux kvm, memory and cpu performance is nearly 100%, and with the right hardware (common these days), you can pass through hardware dedicated to the VM which it can use directly, which is also very efficient.[12:46:38] *** legitfes <legitfes!~manjaro-k@2001:a60:b003:1:2971:340f:50db:e464> has joined #manjaro[12:46:39] <peetaur2> so in the vm, you have the normal radeon driver, and set it up like normal, and plug a monitor in the gpu, and it works just like a real machine[12:46:47] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[12:47:01] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.238> has joined #manjaro[12:47:04] *** legitfes <legitfes!~manjaro-k@2001:a60:b003:1:2971:340f:50db:e464> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:47:15] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.193> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[12:47:23] <peetaur2> and with an SSD and virtio disk and network drivers, disk and network are fast too[12:47:29] <rx480> where could i ask this question with to get a recommendation?[12:48:16] <peetaur2> maybe there's an #amdgpu channel...dunno[12:48:25] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@94.10.95.44> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:48:38] <peetaur2> or just test it.. like on an extra test disk[12:49:30] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@250.67.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #manjaro[12:49:33] *** elliot007 <elliot007!~elliot@103.254.56.102> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:49:52] <rx480> wont they be, lets say it kindly, be... biased?[12:50:09] <peetaur2> everyone's always biased in some way or another[12:50:21] <peetaur2> rather than avoid it (which is impossible), just try to work with it[12:51:08] <rx480> well when you ask a bunch of linux guys will rather give an objective evaluation on how a card of 2 companies is working on linux than a group of one card[12:51:35] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@catv-178-48-153-38.catv.broadband.hu> has joined #manjaro[12:51:53] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@catv-178-48-153-38.catv.broadband.hu> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:51:58] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[12:52:28] <peetaur2> people here are also of one card or ther other[12:53:10] <peetaur2> I'm an AMD fan because they don't try to lock you in and make you buy special expensive stuff for little things like gpu passthrough (nvidia has repeatedly sabotaged their drivers, and each time qemu/linux guys work around it, or the user has to patch or use some options to hide that it's a vm)[12:53:47] <peetaur2> (currently for consumer GPUs, I think you don't have to patch any more, but you have to configure your qemu to hide that it's a vm)[12:53:57] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Quit: going to work)[12:54:29] <peetaur2> but I'll also admit that at least for high end cards, the nvidia driver seems significantly faster, even if less stable than the open amd one.[12:54:45] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@250.67.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:55:03] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.124.227> has joined #manjaro[12:55:18] <rx480> exactly this, you might be the bigges dbag there is but if your cards work like theyre supposed to idc[12:55:21] <NoirLess> guys. Did anyone else got problem with steam launching?[12:55:21] <peetaur2> (and regarding the gpu passthrough thing, also AMD has submitted patches to support it rather than sabotage it)[12:55:57] <NoirLess> Didnt update or install anything. Today launched it, got "unpacking steam runtime" windows and nothing happens[12:56:03] <rx480> passthrough?[12:56:19] <NoirLess> steam process eats 4.9MiB, according to system monitor, btw[12:56:27] <rx480> you mean the blown out of proportions "powergate" ?[12:56:29] <NoirLess> (stable 4.9 MiB)[12:57:11] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@86.108.70.65> has joined #manjaro[12:57:23] <rx480> hm on the other side i can play on win til it ends and then linux drivers might be not shit[12:58:05] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[12:58:45] <rx480> hm i guess i rather go with 480 with hope that ti 2020 amd's drivers wont suck[12:59:04] *** Nyeksenn <Nyeksenn!~pi@i59F6A41F.versanet.de> has joined #manjaro[12:59:05] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[12:59:45] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:59:58] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:01:01] <kieerjon> peetaur2, i used qemu and it was so incredibly slow,took 15mintues to boot ubuntu[13:01:04] *** rx480 <rx480!4d0b16dc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.11.22.220> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[13:01:51] <peetaur2> kieerjon: there are certain bad setups (like xen instead of kvm with virtual disk files instead of block devices), and also you could have had virtualization support disabled in your cpu[13:02:17] <peetaur2> and there was one guy i was helping lately who had an issue like that installing windows, but he had everything set up right from what he described. dunno what happened.[13:02:30] <peetaur2> I have never had that issue, so I'm guessing it was something he just didn't say.[13:03:05] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[13:04:18] <kieerjon> no vt-x is enable so it is working,otherwise it wouldnt work at all if NO Vt-x in BIOS[13:04:21] <kieerjon> enabled[13:04:24] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.238> has joined #manjaro[13:04:49] <kieerjon> yes i did use virtual disk files, never heard of blck devices[13:05:03] <kieerjon> .iso file i booted directly[13:07:31] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwtgbfxvvsnwsiwt> has joined #manjaro[13:09:02] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:09:05] *** Nyeksenn <Nyeksenn!~pi@i59F6A41F.versanet.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend)[13:10:48] *** kieerjon <kieerjon!~kaksd@117.195.248.26> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[13:12:51] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[13:13:00] <NoirLess> guys[13:13:10] <NoirLess> FOR GREATEST JUSTICE, FIX STEAM[13:13:12] <NoirLess> :/[13:13:33] <NoirLess> its update again broke everything, but commands from manjaro forums doesnt work[13:13:37] <NoirLess> output: https://spit.mixtape.moe/view/85e0798d[13:13:39] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/VrEyYY] Untitled - Mixtape Paste[13:13:41] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[13:14:50] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[13:15:01] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:16:04] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has joined #manjaro[13:16:34] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[13:16:52] *** SuperSteve <SuperSteve!~steve@124-171-73-172.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[13:18:51] <NoirLess> guys... for real[13:18:53] <NoirLess> any ideas?[13:21:34] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has joined #manjaro[13:27:18] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[13:30:06] *** nikos <nikos!~Manjarous@adsl-35.79.107.48.tellas.gr> has joined #manjaro[13:30:30] *** nikos is now known as Guest13585[13:30:48] <Guest13585> hi! any chance of getting nvidia-prime (optimus laptop) drivers to work on manjaro?[13:31:37] <NoirLess> Guest13585, bumblebee?[13:32:04] <NoirLess> normally, drivers should setup emself[13:32:04] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:32:19] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[13:32:41] <Guest13585> NoirLess: oh please no bubmblebee, i thought of nvidia-prime package (used in *buntus)[13:33:14] <Guest13585> seems like they're installed but i can't switch between integrated and nvidia gpus[13:33:21] <NoirLess> Guest13585, abandon all hope, m8[13:33:56] <NoirLess> Im here with bumblebee and intel HD graphics perfomance on nvidia (for real - 30 fps in tf2)[13:34:03] <NoirLess> abandon all hope[13:35:07] <Guest13585> ohh. anyway thanks![13:35:33] <NoirLess> actually, there may be ways, but I dont know any[13:36:11] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:37:02] <Guest13585> i've been fighting it for months, seems i won't put my hands on fire anymore. i'll just install mint, i'm running manjaro on my desktop anyway[13:37:04] <Guest13585> bye![13:37:37] <NoirLess> >mint[13:37:41] <NoirLess> but... debian...[13:37:42] <NoirLess> D:[13:38:16] <NoirLess> I have no idea, why someone would use rebranded ubuntu in the world, that have debian[13:38:53] <Guest13585> shit happens :P seems like nvidia-prime is only available on ubuntu (and accordingly mint..)[13:39:41] <Guest13585> because: no canonical, no ads, no search queries sent to servers etc. that's why i came to manjaro in the first place![13:40:10] <NoirLess> >no canonical, no ads, no search queries sent to servers etc[13:40:12] <NoirLess> debian?[13:41:00] <Guest13585> tried that too (sid), even worse support for optimus there![13:41:07] <NoirLess> lol[13:41:10] <NoirLess> it cant be real[13:41:14] <Guest13585> oh yes it can[13:41:17] <NoirLess> as ubuntu is rebranded debian sid[13:42:34] <Guest13585> just try and see yourself :p nvidia-prime is a specific ubuntu pkg, and seems like there's no way to install it on debian (dependencies -.-)[13:42:54] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@5.172.236.91> has joined #manjaro[13:43:29] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@217.73.143.14> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:43:35] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@217.73.143.14> has joined #manjaro[13:44:06] <manjaroCinnamon1> sd[13:44:09] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[13:44:15] <AleSiS> hi[13:44:26] <AleSiS> how open .jse file?[13:44:30] <AleSiS> wat is it???[13:45:11] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[13:45:29] <manjaroCinnamon1> one moment[13:46:37] <manjaroCinnamon1> These are the files associated with JScript Encoded Script File.[13:47:03] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:48:19] *** Guest13585 <Guest13585!~Manjarous@adsl-35.79.107.48.tellas.gr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:48:28] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@217.73.143.14> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:49:03] *** manjaro-web|6815 <manjaro-web|6815!ae04a563@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.174.4.165.99> has joined #manjaro[13:49:24] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[13:49:47] *** manjaro-web|6815 <manjaro-web|6815!ae04a563@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.174.4.165.99> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:51:03] <NoirLess> anyone, who can help me fix steam?[13:52:33] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[13:55:30] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:00:16] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@115.254.92.109> has joined #manjaro[14:01:15] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@115.254.92.109> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:01:55] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-18-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[14:04:00] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p50818F4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:05:52] *** Guest83273 <Guest83273!~derp@cpc83653-brig20-2-0-cust1965.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[14:05:57] *** Guest83273 <Guest83273!~derp@cpc83653-brig20-2-0-cust1965.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:06:49] *** floown <floown!~quassel@2a02-8420-5a09-be00-1427-2059-c387-6ab0.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[14:06:49] *** floown <floown!~quassel@2a02-8420-5a09-be00-1427-2059-c387-6ab0.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[14:06:49] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has joined #manjaro[14:08:19] *** spaceraven <spaceraven!~spacerave@62.148.146.189> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[14:10:10] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@109.236.35.211> has joined #manjaro[14:12:14] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@5.172.236.91> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:17:24] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[14:17:55] *** br1s <br1s!~eino@kon5.kyla.fi> has joined #manjaro[14:18:41] <br1s> still having problems with booting with uefi.. I'm trying to create a dual boot of win10 and manjaro. I have gotten as far as installing the both OSes and butting rEFInd on the windows boot loader partition. it boots fine but there is only windows in the menu[14:18:56] <br1s> I did the automatical refind-install and it just outputs "installation succesfull" or something similar[14:19:10] <br1s> any ideas why it does not seem to detect the manjaro partition?[14:20:26] *** SuperSteve <SuperSteve!~steve@124-171-73-172.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:21:43] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[14:21:54] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[14:24:07] <NoirLess> anyone?[14:24:50] <peetaur2> NoirLess: I have never used steam on linux and have no idea what the problems are, but I'll take a shot at it, as will many, if you actually ask the real question.[14:26:26] <NoirLess> peetaur2, asked some time ago: steam got update itself and doesnt launch anymore (e.g launches with errors and process stays in list untill I kill it. Errors are, actually: https://spit.mixtape.moe/view/85e0798d[14:26:28] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/VrEyYY] Untitled - Mixtape Paste[14:26:45] <NoirLess> tried to execute commands from manjaro forum, but it didnt help[14:27:29] <peetaur2> NoirLess: assuming you are using mesa, run mhwd-gpu --setgl mesa and maybe it'll fix that[14:28:01] <NoirLess> peetaur2, im uses hybrid graphics. Intel with opensource and nvidia with blob tru bumblebee[14:28:17] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:28:22] <peetaur2> ok then I don't know if you should write mesa there or nvidia or what.[14:28:34] <NoirLess> :/[14:28:39] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:29:08] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@5.172.236.91> has joined #manjaro[14:29:19] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has joined #manjaro[14:29:57] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@5.172.236.91> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:30:00] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-18-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:30:03] <peetaur2> maybe mhwd --force -i ... to reinstall will automatically run mhwd-gpu --setgl ...[14:30:58] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[14:31:06] <NoirLess> peetaur2, oh, cmon, everything worked before. Why should I do anything with mhwd, if output says, that problem is in libs? :/ I only have no idea, why preloading em doesnt work for now[14:31:47] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vcpyopxrvdfhkmxs> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[14:32:19] <peetaur2> there are bugs ... have to deal with them sometimes[14:32:28] <peetaur2> probably some lib was removed or renamed and it has to update some symlinks[14:33:00] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.124.227> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[14:35:40] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-18-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[14:38:10] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.124.227> has joined #manjaro[14:38:52] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[14:43:46] *** manjaro-web|9331 <manjaro-web|9331!2959e39b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.89.227.155> has joined #manjaro[14:46:13] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@109.236.35.211> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:48:10] *** diabolo <diabolo!~posix@unaffiliated/kefz> has joined #manjaro[14:48:20] <diabolo> (:[14:48:41] <diabolo> hi team... im using a manjaro 16.0x.1 (last release XFCE) and there's no ping6 command :)([14:48:58] <diabolo> for the rest everything is OK[14:49:28] <diabolo> on a i3... i'll check it online at 17:30 GMT.[14:50:14] *** diabolo is now known as Ataraxie[14:50:18] <peetaur2> diabolo: the ping manjaro gives seems to have -4 and -6 to use a specific one[14:50:29] <Ataraxie> very appreciated peetaur2 ty[14:50:39] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has joined #manjaro[14:50:55] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:51:07] <Ataraxie> anyway my livebox and IPv6 doesnt seems to be a good team while i'm restoring fttc[14:51:39] <Ataraxie> i set google dns and still needing windows for IPv6...[14:52:02] <Ataraxie> but i have manjaro installed and will join here in 2'5 hours :-)[14:54:02] <manjaro-web|9331> guys i get this error when am downloading,what is the problem ?ERROR: A failure occurred in build().[14:54:02] <manjaro-web|9331> Aborting...[14:54:02] <manjaro-web|9331> ==> ERROR: Makepkg was unable to build dukto.[14:54:24] <peetaur2> manjaro-web|9331: that doesn't contain the important part of the error messages[14:56:05] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:56:30] <Stabington_work_> hoi[14:56:38] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[14:57:17] <Stabington_work_> I'm having troubles with x11vnc. It's flickering quite a bit, and it randomly crashes.[14:57:21] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.169.131> has joined #manjaro[14:57:55] <Stabington_work_> I'm using Cinnamon[14:59:09] <manjaro-web|9331> am trying to install dukto,after some time it clones the repos and gives an error "ERROR: Failure while downloading dukto svn repo[14:59:09] <manjaro-web|9331> Aborting...[14:59:09] <manjaro-web|9331> ==> ERROR: Makepkg was unable to build dukto.[15:00:13] <Ataraxie> :([15:01:13] <peetaur2> manjaro-web|9331: need more info... try cd /tmp/yaourt-username/dukto/ or similar, and then makepkg -C and see if you get more detail[15:01:24] <peetaur2> I'm assuming you're using yaourt, but don't know what you're doing[15:01:45] <manjaro-web|9331> yeah kinda[15:01:49] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:02:21] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[15:05:46] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p4FD40896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[15:06:00] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p4FD40896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:08:45] *** Herve83 <Herve83!~manjaro-k@143.21.90.92.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[15:11:39] *** Herve83 <Herve83!~manjaro-k@143.21.90.92.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:12:57] *** Herve83 <Herve83!~herve@143.21.90.92.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[15:13:15] *** IamRight <IamRight!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[15:13:19] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:14:24] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[15:15:53] *** s8321414_ <s8321414_!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[15:16:03] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:16:09] *** s8321414_ is now known as s8321414[15:16:28] *** manjaro-web|9331 <manjaro-web|9331!2959e39b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.89.227.155> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:16:48] *** Herve83 <Herve83!~herve@143.21.90.92.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:22:34] <NoirLess> guuuys. Steam broken again. Anyone?[15:27:47] <zero-ghost> fine for me[15:28:26] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.78> has joined #manjaro[15:28:50] <peetaur2> zero-ghost: do you have intel+nvidia hybrid?[15:29:19] <zero-ghost> yea[15:30:54] <zero-ghost> but not really, its more of a 2-in-1, physical button that only works in windows, press it and restart activating the second card[15:31:08] <zero-ghost> never used the button[15:31:31] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[15:33:17] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:33:43] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has joined #manjaro[15:33:52] *** IamRight <IamRight!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:34:04] <peetaur2> ok well NoirLess has a problem with such a hybrid where updating somehow broke his libGB maybe.[15:34:54] <zero-ghost> ah k[15:36:45] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[15:37:57] <NoirLess> zero-ghost, overall - steam updated and now i cant launch it cuz of errors: https://spit.mixtape.moe/view/85e0798d[15:37:59] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/VrEyYY] Untitled - Mixtape Paste[15:38:38] <NoirLess> zero-ghost, tried to execute commands from manjaro forum, but they didnt help[15:38:44] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:38:52] <peetaur2> NoirLess: one other option is to downgrade steam again....see the file in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ and install it with pacman -U <filename>[15:39:38] <NoirLess> peetaur2, steam updated ITSELF. I cant downgrade it, cuz it will download update again[15:40:12] <peetaur2> heh oh[15:40:20] <zero-ghost> run it in firejail[15:40:24] <zero-ghost> with no networking[15:40:35] <peetaur2> doesn't steam sorta need networking?[15:40:52] <zero-ghost> offline games dont :-p[15:41:16] <zero-ghost> i run all my single player games firejailed with no networking[15:41:25] <zero-ghost> steam just says "do you want to stay in offline mode?"[15:41:30] <zero-ghost> so i just click yes everytime[15:41:40] <peetaur2> how do you use firejail? every time I look it up they basically say it's easy for firefox and a hassle with any other program[15:41:54] *** open_coder <open_coder!~open_code@85.103.244.158> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:42:04] <zero-ghost> you only need to remember like 3 or 4 important flags[15:42:44] <zero-ghost> it makes it like sandboxie for windows and cuts off everything in the sandbox from your real OS[15:42:50] <zero-ghost> more like a full virtual machine[15:42:54] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[15:43:01] <zero-ghost> thats what i do for each steam game i have[15:43:07] <zero-ghost> give each one a different private home[15:43:33] <zero-ghost> so each steam install doesnt know of the other and cant see each others games[15:44:23] <zero-ghost> i think the default firejail steam profile mightve gotten messed up so you might also have to give it --noprofile[15:44:53] <zero-ghost> firejail --noprofile --net=none --private=/home/user/.firejail/game/ env STEAM_RUNTIME=1 /usr/bin/steam %U --caps.drop=all[15:44:57] <zero-ghost> theres one of my laucnhers[15:46:04] <zero-ghost> 3 or 4 flags and youre containerizing apps with full control ;)[15:46:07] <NoirLess> nah, its useless, if you plays online games[15:46:17] <peetaur2> if I run it without a program, and add --private it seems to hide my homedir, but I can still make files in /tmp that are shared with the normal system[15:46:19] <zero-ghost> you can do full firewall rules[15:46:22] <zero-ghost> so not useless at all[15:46:26] <zero-ghost> but thats a lot more work[15:46:49] <zero-ghost> yea read the manual for the different things the private flag does[15:46:55] <zero-ghost> its meant to hide everything from your normal system[15:47:19] <NoirLess> btw - nobody knows, how to fix my problem?[15:47:37] <zero-ghost> uninstall, reinstall steam?[15:47:37] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@80-62-117-18-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:47:48] <peetaur2> it seems to prevent ping... I know at least one program that would break[15:48:42] <NoirLess> zero-ghost, and it will give same errors on update[15:48:55] <zero-ghost> yea net=none might break some things, but since you can configure the full network interface inside the sandbox you can do almost anything[15:49:35] <peetaur2> zero-ghost: and the man page says "Only /home and /tmp are writable." but you can also write in /dev/shm/[15:50:16] <peetaur2> and I made a directory /blah/ chowned it to me, and it can write there too.[15:50:21] <zero-ghost> NoirLess: here is my very risky advice that i have no idea if it would help: autoclean pacman cache, and autoremove uneeded dependencies[15:50:42] <zero-ghost> sudo pacman -Scc[15:50:46] <zero-ghost> and[15:50:57] <zero-ghost> sudo pacman -Qdtq | sudo pacman -Rs -[15:51:11] <zero-ghost> remove steam first[15:55:02] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[15:55:52] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:57:16] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwtgbfxvvsnwsiwt> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[15:59:05] <NoirLess> okay[15:59:10] <NoirLess> looks like I've fixed it[15:59:18] <NoirLess> for some reason, I've lost all settings, btw[15:59:25] <NoirLess> and required to login again[15:59:26] <NoirLess> :/[16:00:36] *** manjaro-web|1195 <manjaro-web|1195!4e57bc9b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.78.87.188.155> has joined #manjaro[16:00:47] *** manjaro-web|1195 <manjaro-web|1195!4e57bc9b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.78.87.188.155> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:05:48] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.124.227> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[16:06:40] *** Aria22|away|away is now known as Aria22[16:10:59] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.78> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:11:12] <peetaur2> zero-ghost: bleh...why should stuff not work with grsec? Error: --overlay option is not available on Grsecurity systems. syslog didn't show grsec/pax blocking anything.[16:12:22] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.78> has joined #manjaro[16:13:22] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@78-106-48-45.broadband.corbina.ru> has joined #manjaro[16:14:01] <zero-ghost> no idea firejail pretty newish[16:15:12] <peetaur2> do you use grsec?[16:18:20] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@78-106-48-45.broadband.corbina.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:24:56] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[16:28:37] <zero-ghost> nah i dont[16:29:12] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[16:29:22] <peetaur2> then you're probably pwned already... I'm taking a risk just writing to you. just kidding.[16:30:23] <peetaur2> and I'm not very impressed with firejail... it seems to hide the homedir well, but seems not to secure anything else, and there's an option for securing /tmp and another for replacing /dev with a minimal one (that probably won't work, eg.for sound in firefox, camera in skype) and no other flexibility to specify directories that they don't have in their supported list.[16:30:41] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[16:33:42] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@197.116.89.140> has joined #manjaro[16:33:44] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@197.116.89.140> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:35:19] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:39:20] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:40:32] <Ataraxie> k, i is here![16:42:32] <Ataraxie> Host: WaR-PC-OS: Linux 4.6.2-1-MANJARO/x86_64-CPU: 4 x Intel Core i3-3240T (1602.476 MHz)-Processes: 165-Uptime: 2m-Users: 2-Load Average: 0,22-Memory Usage: 7494.38MB/7860.09MB (95.12%)-Disk Usage: 7.78GB/218.95GB (3.55%)[16:42:33] <Ataraxie> :-)[16:43:03] <Ataraxie> well thx the -6 works thought.[16:43:08] *** Ataraxie <Ataraxie!~posix@unaffiliated/kefz> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.5")[16:44:26] *** hoagies <hoagies!~manjaro-k@186.82.70.156> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:47:43] *** skarj <skarj!~manjaro-k@2a02:2f08:2101:7000:3fdd:b70d:82ca:bcae> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:49:03] *** yabbes_ <yabbes_!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[16:49:18] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a02:2f08:2101:7000:3fdd:b70d:82ca:bcae> has joined #manjaro[16:49:52] *** Softeisbieger <Softeisbieger!~Softeisbi@ip-62-143-13-166.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:49:59] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[16:50:15] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as sbfslqbgf[16:51:30] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!~Matumaros@aftr-185-17-205-202.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #manjaro[16:51:56] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[16:53:38] *** manjaro_user <manjaro_user!~manjaro-k@2804:14d:5c72:8986:5ec9:d3ff:fe46:451a> has joined #manjaro[16:55:00] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[16:55:04] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:55:37] *** manjaro_user <manjaro_user!~manjaro-k@2804:14d:5c72:8986:5ec9:d3ff:fe46:451a> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:55:48] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[16:56:14] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has joined #manjaro[16:57:47] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[16:59:20] *** yabbes_ <yabbes_!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:01:48] *** manjaro-web|2881 <manjaro-web|2881!64208905@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.100.32.137.5> has joined #manjaro[17:02:16] *** allthings_py <allthings_py!~Avinash@146.196.33.210> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:02:26] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[17:02:43] <manjaro-web|2881> Howdy[17:03:26] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #manjaro[17:03:29] <manjaro-web|2881> is this a help room[17:04:17] <bugzbunny> nope[17:04:25] <CountryfiedLinux> yes manjaro-web|2881[17:04:34] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE16B8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:04:35] <bugzbunny> He's lying ^^^[17:04:43] *** Tintle <Tintle!~Tintle@vps.neomahler.space> has quit IRC (Quit: Restarting ZNC)[17:04:51] <manjaro-web|2881> thnk you -countryfied[17:05:11] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@190.55.182.125> has joined #manjaro[17:05:51] <manjaro-web|2881> wanted to bookmark the help channel incase I need it, I just installed manjaro[17:06:11] <manjaro-web|2881> 16.06[17:06:22] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@190.55.182.125> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:06:57] <manjaro-web|2881> doing updates now[17:07:35] <manjaro-web|2881> is manjaro a rolling release ?[17:07:54] <PMunch> Yes[17:08:09] <manjaro-web|2881> thanks PMunch[17:08:39] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[17:09:08] <manjaro-web|2881> PMunch are rolling releases more stable[17:09:16] <PMunch> Depends[17:09:31] <manjaro-web|2881> on what? PMunch[17:09:35] <PMunch> Typically they are less stable, as an effect of being bleeding edge[17:10:11] <PMunch> Manjaro however has a testing branch as well, so it's not cutting edge like e.g. Arch[17:10:25] <PMunch> This means that you get a bit more stability than Arch but probably not as much as Debian[17:10:39] <PMunch> That being said you also get security updates and bugfixes much faster[17:10:52] <br1s> is there a good newbie guide on installing dual boot for win10 and manjaro? I've been struggling now almost two days with this and feeling a bit desperate ^^'[17:11:19] <PMunch> br1s, no but I've considered writing one :P[17:11:23] *** enkeys <enkeys!~enkeys@novlen.lit.rev-fortech.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[17:11:24] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[17:11:33] <PMunch> Had a couple people a day coming in here asking for how to set it up[17:11:42] <PMunch> And it's really simple once you know what you're doing[17:11:46] <manjaro-web|2881> PMunch, I don't use windows and have not since 2007[17:12:03] <PMunch> manjaro-web|2881, ok[17:12:10] <PMunch> I don't use Windows either[17:12:45] <PMunch> Hmm, I'm having some trouble with my backup solution. Or rather with how it transfers files to my server. It connects via sftp and then starts to gather files to back up. Problem is while doing this the sftp connection appears to time out or something, so when it goes to actually back up files it fails with the upload which stops the backup. This should really be fixed within the backup solution (failing 5 times without trying to reconnect, why??) but for[17:12:45] <PMunch> now I want to "fix" it by increasing the timeout. Any ideas?[17:13:23] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ool-44c541ff.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[17:13:42] <manjaro-web|2881> I don't use it Windows 10 cause the security risks[17:13:49] <manjaro-kde5> herro[17:13:58] <manjaro-kde5> can u understand me?[17:14:03] <br1s> PMunch: I've tried it maybe five times, got the efinder-install once to install but then manjaro didn't show up in the list. care to explain how to install manjaro after installing windows? do you put efinder on the windows boot loader partition? does secure boot need to be disabled in the mobos bios? I have boot mode OS type "Other OS" instead of "Windows UEFI mode" atm[17:14:19] <CountryfiedLinux> I installed Ubuntu 16.04 recently.[17:14:26] <br1s> I would only use windows 10 for one game, everything else on manjaro[17:14:28] <manjaro-kde5> i uninstalled ubuntu recently[17:14:28] <CountryfiedLinux> And waiting on all my apps to hit snappy :)[17:14:37] <CountryfiedLinux> Got VLC snap installed.[17:14:39] <manjaro-kde5> ubuntu is ass[17:14:45] <manjaro-web|2881> I am an average linuxser never really got deep into technicallities[17:15:21] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[17:15:22] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ool-44c541ff.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:16:04] <CountryfiedLinux> Arch now officially supports snaps, so assuming Manjaro does too.[17:16:44] *** Ataraxie <Ataraxie!~posix@unaffiliated/kefz> has joined #manjaro[17:16:49] <Ataraxie> kthx manjaro rox[17:16:54] <manjaro-web|2881> PMunch we really need experienced people without bias in the linux community to guide newbies[17:17:10] <Ataraxie> dwanna see?[17:17:45] <Ataraxie> jk jk[17:18:10] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:18:26] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:18:42] <manjaro-web|2881> PMunch- nice talking got to look something up have a cool day![17:19:10] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[17:19:10] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:19:10] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[17:21:05] *** tobinski <tobinski!~tobinski@p5DE0C703.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:21:06] *** manjaro-web|2881 <manjaro-web|2881!64208905@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.100.32.137.5> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:21:36] <PMunch> Not sure why we would need a bias expert..[17:21:57] <PMunch> To ensure that our tech related answers are pure an unbiased?[17:22:03] *** tobinski_ <tobinski_!~tobinski@p5DE0CC4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:25:09] *** Ataraxie is now known as kefz[17:25:13] *** Nishikino-Maki1 <Nishikino-Maki1!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.156> has joined #manjaro[17:27:14] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.156> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:27:15] *** Nishikino-Maki1 is now known as Nishikino-Maki[17:28:02] <kefz> hahaha[17:28:03] <kefz> yes[17:30:40] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has joined #manjaro[17:31:13] *** mCOLe-Usr <mCOLe-Usr!~mCOLe-Usr@154.70.41.4> has joined #manjaro[17:32:50] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has joined #manjaro[17:33:42] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-178-203-184-121.hsi10.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:35:20] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-178-203-184-121.hsi10.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[17:35:37] *** mCOLe-Usr <mCOLe-Usr!~mCOLe-Usr@154.70.41.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:37:33] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[17:38:03] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:40:25] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-178-203-184-121.hsi10.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:40:35] *** junka <junka!~junka@unaffiliated/junka> has joined #manjaro[17:45:51] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[17:45:55] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:47:12] *** junka <junka!~junka@unaffiliated/junka> has quit IRC (Quit: junka)[17:50:30] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[17:51:11] <kefz> *cought*cought*[17:51:17] *** kefz is now known as evilkefz[17:53:28] <VoidFox> does anyone know a good alternative to xfce´s notifyd (libnotify)[17:54:02] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:54:14] <VoidFox> would like to have some extra features like clickable links and image preview or something in that direction[17:55:07] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@86.108.70.65> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:58:00] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.169.131> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:01:05] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:01:09] <evilkefz> done 1.6-dev[18:01:25] <evilkefz> hee hee tee hee heh heh[18:01:44] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[18:03:33] *** ploop <ploop!~ploop@unaffiliated/ruukasu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:03:54] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.169.131> has joined #manjaro[18:05:52] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@151.247.242.165> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:06:30] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[18:06:31] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[18:08:15] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@xdsl-87-79-191-221.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:08:23] *** evilkefz is now known as mentalcube[18:09:28] *** ploop <ploop!~ploop@unaffiliated/ruukasu> has joined #manjaro[18:10:09] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:10:57] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:12:24] <mentalcube> heyyyyy[18:12:29] <mentalcube> 1.6-dev weechat rules[18:12:31] <mentalcube> :-)[18:12:33] *** mentalcube is now known as kefz[18:14:15] <ravenow> afair irssi is the only client here[18:14:49] <Zeadar> Quassel![18:15:08] <mparillo> I used to prefer Quassel, but I am warming to Konversation.[18:15:10] <Jeannie> hexchat[18:16:18] * Zeadar uses quassel for the client and core ability. Running quasselcore on the raspberry pi and client on pc :>[18:16:19] <kefz> nope[18:16:35] <kefz> ah yes[18:16:41] <kefz> very cool kde is gr8![18:16:52] <kefz> but some of us wants terminal clients[18:17:03] <kefz> its like a sunday without a stronght drink[18:17:04] <ravenow> Jeannie, just use znc+irssi[18:17:18] <kefz> indeed[18:17:20] <Jeannie> Why?[18:17:23] <kefz> of znc + weechat like me[18:17:30] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[18:17:32] <kefz> because terminal clients are secure[18:17:36] <kefz> and u need a shell[18:17:38] <ravenow> lol[18:17:42] <ravenow> :D[18:18:12] *** silli <silli!~silli@host238-14-static.223-195-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:18:16] <ravenow> who knows, maybe irssi/weechat have more unknown vulnerables then quasel[18:18:20] <Jeannie> Ugly stuff, uncomfortable to use and to configure[18:18:37] <ravenow> im used irssi for 8 years, and its easy[18:18:41] <kefz> 5 minutes and configured.. irssi? thats cool for staff[18:18:51] <ravenow> if u know what is irc u know how to use irssi[18:18:52] <kefz> same here... i moved to weechat 3 months ago[18:18:58] <kefz> weechat rules[18:19:03] <Zeadar> Evrything is easy after 8 years innit? :P[18:19:08] <ravenow> :)))[18:19:11] <ravenow> who knows[18:19:21] <kefz> BitchX rules[18:19:25] <ravenow> nah[18:19:25] *** alberto <alberto!~kefz@unaffiliated/bietanjarrai> has joined #manjaro[18:19:26] <Jeannie> Use whatever you want but don't try to push your preferred applications on others[18:19:27] <alberto> yes[18:19:30] <alberto> bitchx-1.3-git + tunnelvision/1.2[18:19:39] <ravenow> bitchx supressed by irssi and weechat[18:19:44] <alberto> who cares[18:19:46] <alberto> ?[18:19:47] <alberto> :;-)[18:20:03] <ravenow> thats like psybnc for oldfag[18:20:09] <kefz> psybnc is shity[18:20:10] <ravenow> and znc for oldfags[18:20:14] <ravenow> *newfags[18:20:16] <kefz> ./detach[18:20:26] <kefz> detached from /dev/pts/3. To re-attach type scr-bx[18:20:32] <kefz> glwt[18:21:14] <alberto> bwahahaha[18:21:20] <ravenow> does weechat/bitchs has fish support?[18:21:28] <ravenow> *bitchx[18:21:31] <kefz> albertish knows it[18:21:34] <alberto> indeedly deed.[18:22:14] <kefz> another satisfacted customer, /detach rules[18:22:19] <kefz> satisfied*+[18:22:23] <ravenow> afair there r only 2 good irc clients with fish - irssi + xchat[18:22:31] <kefz> all r good[18:22:34] <ravenow> nah[18:22:42] <kefz> hexchat is full of spyware[18:22:52] <kefz> irssi doest show your password with asterisk[18:22:56] *** jaskij <jaskij!~jaskij@public-gprs410834.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:23:00] <kefz> when u do /oper[18:23:11] <kefz> a third person near can write ur pass[18:23:14] <kefz> thats why i use weechat[18:23:18] <Jeannie> Have you looked through the code of hexchat or what's your statement based on?[18:23:30] <kefz> for the rest all i know , irssi[18:24:04] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:24:05] <ravenow> if 3rd party person plug hot iron into ur ass u will diffenetly tell him ur pass[18:24:05] <ravenow> :D[18:24:11] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[18:24:39] <ravenow> so if 3rdparty person behind u, just dont type ur pass[18:24:40] <ravenow> :D[18:24:48] *** alberto <alberto!~kefz@unaffiliated/bietanjarrai> has quit IRC (Quit: [BX] A friend with weed is a friend indeed)[18:26:41] *** alberto <alberto!~alberto@unaffiliated/bietanjarrai> has joined #manjaro[18:26:42] <alberto> mkay![18:26:59] <kefz> i <3 /detach[18:27:08] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[18:27:10] <kefz> any other client with that feautre its a waste of time[18:27:15] <ravenow> u could use any console tool with tmux[18:27:15] <kefz> without :)([18:27:25] <kefz> its a screen[18:27:38] <kefz> that wasnt removed because i voted NO.[18:27:46] <ravenow> screen crap[18:27:53] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[18:27:55] <kefz> no crap with a c00lb0x.[18:28:00] <ravenow> tmux much more easy[18:28:07] <kefz> if your box is newbie ok[18:28:12] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@190.146.219.72> has joined #manjaro[18:28:14] <kefz> sometimes crash[18:28:16] <kefz> i know[18:28:19] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@151.247.242.165> has joined #manjaro[18:28:30] <kefz> nothing's perfect and BitchX has never been perfect and wont be[18:28:35] <ravenow> buddy, most of time u need a couple of windows + splits - detach/reattach[18:28:38] <ravenow> thats all[18:28:43] <kefz> na[18:29:17] <kefz> well ok i will consider pidgin+hiddenservice+IPv6+SSL+tcl+plugins+tunelvision next week[18:29:20] <ravenow> when i tried to look into screen docs about status bar, i was shocked[18:29:34] <kefz> but atm i use weechat :)[18:29:46] <ravenow> pidgin irc support is piece of shit[18:29:52] <kefz> please replace pidgin with a bx1.3 and never use a script?[18:30:09] <kefz> tunelvision does well for any profesional OP.[18:30:16] <ravenow> OP?[18:30:20] <kefz> yeah channel op[18:30:23] <ravenow> ah[18:30:28] <ravenow> u mean that[18:30:38] <kefz> yes irssi for a client works[18:31:03] <kefz> u connect to the server / znc :=) very well.. ur channel is atacked with close what irssi does 4 you[18:31:08] <kefz> clones*[18:31:16] <ravenow> nah[18:31:23] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@79.141.164.5> has joined #manjaro[18:31:25] <ravenow> never cn that before[18:31:27] <kefz> or mass /ctcp version or mIRC colours or any floodnet[18:31:30] *** chshbh <chshbh!~Avinash@146.196.33.210> has joined #manjaro[18:31:41] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[18:31:50] <ravenow> buddy most of time i used +pk chans[18:32:01] <ravenow> on linknet[18:32:09] <kefz> 18:31:46 maniac -- | [alberto] (~kefz@unaffiliated/bietanjarrai) era Mind your own business![18:32:20] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[18:32:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[18:32:21] <kefz> weechat in your mom's lang[18:32:27] <kefz> </native>[18:32:31] <kefz> i have fun with it.[18:32:42] <kefz> era = was[18:32:46] <kefz> and very powerfulll[18:32:58] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:33:11] <kefz> BitchX is the funny client ever so outdated[18:33:18] <kefz> (funniest)[18:33:21] <ravenow> imho there too much things where u could apply ur power instead of weechat ;)[18:33:28] <kefz> u coloured with tunelvision...[18:33:36] <kefz> ok[18:33:39] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@79.141.164.5> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:33:47] <kefz> lemme ragequit[18:33:51] <ravenow> hahaha[18:33:52] <ravenow> :D[18:34:09] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the 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Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller • Uptime: 2h 4m 31s[18:44:14] <kefz> thats my hexchat[18:44:30] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: tmsbrdrs)[18:44:53] <kefz> rules too[18:45:12] <kefz> now in clour créme[18:45:17] <kefz> Ç*colour*[18:45:19] <kefz> :-P[18:45:35] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:45:52] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@122.161.3.227> has joined #manjaro[18:45:53] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@122.161.3.227> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:45:53] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[18:47:24] <kefz> sup! hehehe tee hee hee[18:47:27] <kefz> np np[18:47:32] <kefz> weechat still fascinating me[18:47:41] <kefz> idk.. hexchat is pleasutring[18:47:45] <kefz> pleasurting[18:47:50] <kefz> ple-a-su-.ring :)[18:48:01] <kefz> brb install roBoCoP[18:48:04] <kefz> ah[18:48:33] <kefz> ravenow: get weechat-dev and ./configure --with-plugins --with-tcl --enable-ipv6 --with-ssl[18:48:47] <kefz> thats my !BitchX[18:48:55] <kefz> :-I[18:54:43] <ravenow> kefz, like a true skilled linux user u should write pkgbuild for install[18:54:45] <ravenow> :PP[18:56:35] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[18:57:03] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:59:01] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:03:30] *** Tuxman <Tuxman!~Tuxman@unaffiliated/tuxman> has joined #manjaro[19:04:31] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[19:05:39] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[19:06:34] <d42> "skilled"[19:10:24] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[19:11:54] *** ravenow <ravenow!~ravenow@213.24.133.154> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:12:19] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[19:12:55] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[19:13:44] *** alberto <alberto!~alberto@unaffiliated/bietanjarrai> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:14:54] <AleSiS> help me[19:15:05] <Strit_Laptop> AleSiS, with?[19:15:09] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:15:09] <AleSiS> how to open jawa script doc in a linux[19:15:23] <AleSiS> jse format[19:15:26] <Strit_Laptop> did you try running javadoc[19:15:37] <AleSiS> this is a app?[19:15:42] <AleSiS> javadoc[19:17:26] <Strit_Laptop> I think so. Just saw it when I tried running a java applocation.[19:19:57] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:20:41] <AleSiS> java doc not work[19:20:57] <AleSiS> i'm instal a jdk now[19:21:01] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[19:21:14] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:22:39] <AleSiS> not work[19:22:48] <AleSiS> wot program is work????[19:23:01] <Strit_Laptop> no idea. I don't use java that much.[19:23:11] <AleSiS> this not xml[19:23:15] <AleSiS> .jse[19:23:26] *** smeefonater <smeefonater!~deathonat@cpe-69-203-208-219.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[19:24:00] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[19:25:02] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[19:25:47] <AleSiS> not work[19:25:48] <AleSiS> ([19:26:04] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[19:26:06] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:26:26] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[19:27:20] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@151.247.242.165> has joined #manjaro[19:27:38] *** br2s <br2s!~manjaro@kiv7.kyla.fi> has joined #manjaro[19:27:55] <br2s> can anyone help me with this? I'm beyond frustrated atm :D https://forum.manjaro.org/t/cant-boot-into-manjaro-with-win10-manjaro-grub-refind/5473[19:27:56] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/6LQEhJ] Can't boot into Manjaro with Win10+Manjaro+Grub+rEFInd - Newbie Corner - Manjaro[19:29:34] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:29:54] *** JoeMaro <JoeMaro!~joemaro@p57B40190.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:30:13] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@91.224.149.179> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:33:09] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[19:35:33] *** br2s <br2s!~manjaro@kiv7.kyla.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[19:37:33] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:38:09] <JoeMaro> hey! i have a problem with xdg-open. 'default-web-browser' gets set to cups.desktop all the time and i don't know how to change that... octopi for example continously spawns new processes when i press a URL and it totally overwhelms my system... (running i3)[19:38:32] *** alphad <alphad!uid112882@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kphjrvacjtkibusy> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[19:38:35] *** Dark_Blue_Bird <Dark_Blue_Bird!~Shark@178.162.198.111> has joined #manjaro[19:38:40] <Dark_Blue_Bird> hello[19:38:51] <Dark_Blue_Bird> is this an irc about the Linux distro?[19:39:02] <JoeMaro> yes Dark_Blue_Bird[19:39:04] <Strit_Laptop> Dark_Blue_Bird, about Manjaro yes.[19:39:20] <Dark_Blue_Bird> good do you know if manjaro has something like AUR ?[19:39:33] <Strit_Laptop> Dark_Blue_Bird, yes. Manjaro has AUR support[19:39:51] <Dark_Blue_Bird> okay does it have something like a wiki?[19:40:05] <Wildfyr> Dark_Blue_Bird: you can access aur manually, or using a AUR wrapper like yaourt[19:40:08] <Strit_Laptop> yes.[19:40:17] <Strit_Laptop> also a forum[19:40:28] <Dark_Blue_Bird> could u send me a link to the wiki?[19:40:32] <Dark_Blue_Bird> thank you guys :D[19:40:39] <Strit_Laptop> wiki.manjaro.org[19:40:39] <PMunch> JoeMaro, I'm having the exact same problem with xdg-open[19:40:46] *** smeefonater <smeefonater!~deathonat@cpe-69-203-208-219.nyc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:40:46] <Dark_Blue_Bird> thx[19:41:04] <PMunch> Dark_Blue_Bird, it might still have certificate errors. Nothing to worry about though[19:41:21] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[19:41:37] <JoeMaro> PMunch, damn :P[19:41:47] <Dark_Blue_Bird> okay thank you I'll keep that in mind[19:41:58] <Dark_Blue_Bird> getting the i3 version[19:42:34] <PMunch> JoeMaro, yeah it's the one thing I have never been able to fix. I've basically just learnt which links I can and cannot click.. But getting it solved would be amazing![19:42:36] <JoeMaro> i wonder where xdg-open reads its variables from ... might try and change em there?[19:42:39] <PMunch> Dark_Blue_Bird, it's a good one[19:42:47] *** ink0gnito <ink0gnito!~ink0gnito@5.79.74.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:42:51] <PMunch> JoeMaro, apparently a mish-mash of locations[19:42:52] <JoeMaro> i3 <3[19:42:58] <PMunch> Neither of which seems to work..[19:43:06] <Dark_Blue_Bird> yes xd[19:43:11] <Dark_Blue_Bird> damn 4h download time :([19:43:59] <Dark_Blue_Bird> sourceforge speed :/ taking always so long from that site[19:44:35] <kefz> jauajuajaujauajua[19:44:47] <Strit_Laptop> Dark_Blue_Bird, maybe the torrent is faster?[19:45:10] <PMunch> The torrent usually is super fast[19:45:17] <PMunch> Depends on your connection of course[19:45:20] <Dark_Blue_Bird> ? didn't see a torrent link on the manjaro site for i3 64 but[19:45:25] <Dark_Blue_Bird> bit*[19:45:34] <Strit_Laptop> Dark_Blue_Bird, it's on a seperate sourceforge page.[19:46:02] <PMunch> sourceforge.net/projects/manjarotorrents/[19:46:12] <Strit_Laptop> specifically: https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarotorrents/files/community/i3/16.06.1/[19:46:14] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/my0psW] Manjaro Community Torrents - Browse /community/i3/16.06.1 at SourceForge.net[19:46:16] <PMunch> sourceforge.net/projects/manjarotorrents/files/community/i3/[19:47:16] <Dark_Blue_Bird> oh thx[19:47:27] <Dark_Blue_Bird> sry i was blind lol[19:47:38] <JoeMaro> the whole mime thing on linux seems pretty messy ...[19:47:54] <AleSiS> mb this is a java script virus in a windows))))[19:48:05] <AleSiS> strip_laptop[19:48:10] <AleSiS> strit[19:48:11] <AleSiS> )[19:49:31] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: the mac is asleep)[19:51:03] <JoeMaro> i wonder which one is more important? $BROWSER or xdg-open's value for default web browser[19:55:43] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@91.224.149.179> has joined #manjaro[19:55:58] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:57:25] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@91.224.149.179> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:58:31] *** anonkun <anonkun!~anonkun@unaffiliated/anonkun> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:59:23] *** Fingli <Fingli!~Fingli@unaffiliated/fingli> has joined #manjaro[19:59:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fingli[20:00:21] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[20:00:38] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@79.141.164.5> has joined #manjaro[20:00:48] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[20:01:30] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE16B8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:02:41] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@91.224.149.179> has joined #manjaro[20:04:51] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:05:04] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[20:06:16] *** flawless <flawless!~flawless@hst-31-89.splius.lt> has joined #manjaro[20:07:12] <Matumaros> Which application do you recommend for SSH?[20:07:26] <Matumaros> putty?[20:08:03] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[20:08:03] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:08:03] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[20:08:58] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@217.73.143.14> has joined #manjaro[20:09:35] <Strit_Laptop> Matumaros, openSSH[20:10:41] <Matumaros> Strit_Laptop: Thanks, I will try it[20:11:23] *** JoeMaro <JoeMaro!~joemaro@p57B40190.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:11:39] <Dark_Blue_Bird> ooh manjaro is using pacman?[20:11:49] <BryzNSTY> yep[20:11:51] <Dark_Blue_Bird> that's very good xd[20:12:01] <Dark_Blue_Bird> thought I had to get used to apt again[20:12:10] <Strit_Laptop> Dark_Blue_Bird, yes. Manjaro is an Arch Linux derivative.[20:12:29] <Dark_Blue_Bird> nice[20:12:34] <Dark_Blue_Bird> just installed it[20:12:44] <Dark_Blue_Bird> but my network card isn't working :([20:12:56] <Dark_Blue_Bird> it worked with archlinux :/[20:12:57] <Strit_Laptop> what card is it?[20:13:08] <Dark_Blue_Bird> rtl8821ae realtek[20:13:19] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@79.141.164.5> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:13:24] <Dark_Blue_Bird> arch had it in the kernel[20:13:36] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I'm connected to the wifi[20:13:41] <Dark_Blue_Bird> but can't ping[20:13:42] <Strit_Laptop> If Arch has it in kernel, so will Manjaro. It's almost the same kernel.[20:13:57] <Strit_Laptop> if you are connected, the card works.[20:14:08] <Strit_Laptop> what error do you get on ping?[20:14:27] *** flawless <flawless!~flawless@hst-31-89.splius.lt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:14:57] <Dark_Blue_Bird> ping good.com name or service not known[20:15:01] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I have no connection[20:15:12] <Strit_Laptop> try ping 8.8.8.8?[20:15:24] <Dark_Blue_Bird> pacman -Syu isn't executing as well[20:15:27] <Dark_Blue_Bird> failed retrieving[20:15:38] <Dark_Blue_Bird> not found[20:15:53] <Strit_Laptop> can you ping your gateway?[20:15:55] <steepleone> rtl8723ae works on manjaro[20:16:02] <Dark_Blue_Bird> 8821[20:16:09] <Dark_Blue_Bird> 8821ae[20:16:44] <LyriCa> when linux failes to mount home eventhough is on the fstab, what does that mean?[20:17:03] <Strit_Laptop> LyriCa, depends on the error.[20:17:22] <Strit_Laptop> Probably something changed, like the device label/UUID.[20:17:25] <LyriCa> like the system boots into maintenance mode and i cannot access the internet, just the root partition[20:17:29] <Lowl3v3l> LyriCa, most likely the user made a mistake or you have home encrypted on lvm or stuff and didnt doo it correctly[20:17:29] <LyriCa> hmnm[20:17:37] <LyriCa> i see[20:17:39] <Dark_Blue_Bird> yes I can ping my gateway[20:17:52] <LyriCa> i tried to get into the machine by enabling its interface link (Up) and still wont connect[20:17:54] <Strit_Laptop> Dark_Blue_Bird, then it's a router problem. Not a manjaro problem.[20:17:59] <LyriCa> even if the machine is wired[20:18:02] <Dark_Blue_Bird> lol[20:18:15] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I was 1h ago in arch and it worked perfectly[20:18:25] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.193> has joined #manjaro[20:18:28] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I have 2 other PCs are home and my phone all are working[20:18:36] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991BC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[20:18:59] <Strit_Laptop> Dark_Blue_Bird, well, if you can ping the gateway, your connection between the gateway and your NIC works. So not much we can do about it getting farther out.[20:19:44] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[20:19:46] <Strit_Laptop> Are you getting dns details from the router?[20:20:13] <Dark_Blue_Bird> wait[20:20:17] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I can't ping my gateway[20:20:21] <Dark_Blue_Bird> pinged local ip[20:20:23] <Dark_Blue_Bird> sry[20:20:25] <Strit_Laptop> /sigh[20:20:53] <Dark_Blue_Bird> sry man my bad[20:21:11] <Strit_Laptop> can you give me output of "inxi -N"?[20:21:21] *** tumudifork <tumudifork!~kaksd@117.195.248.26> has joined #manjaro[20:21:24] <tumudifork> helo[20:21:33] <Dark_Blue_Bird> yeah[20:21:40] <tumudifork> why there is no need to edit the config files in manjaro?[20:21:58] <Strit_Laptop> tumudifork, who says there is no need to?[20:22:07] <tumudifork> ok but[20:22:08] <tumudifork> why there is no need to edit the config files in manjaro?[20:22:11] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[20:22:12] <tumudifork> i mean[20:22:20] <tumudifork> what makes arch different in config files than ubuntu?[20:23:27] <Dark_Blue_Bird> card2: Realtek RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8821ae[20:23:38] <Dark_Blue_Bird> csrd1 is my Ethernet controller[20:23:39] <tumudifork> how does ubutu overcome the config problem?[20:23:41] <Dark_Blue_Bird> card *[20:24:07] <jurislav> tumudifork: where did you get that?[20:24:15] <tumudifork> what?[20:24:30] <jurislav> that there is no need for config edit in mnjr[20:24:35] <tumudifork> sorry[20:24:46] <tumudifork> how does ubuntu and other distro overcome the config problem,and make it easy for users?[20:24:58] <jurislav> the amount of GUI apps[20:25:15] <jurislav> and the choice of DE[20:26:14] <Strit_Laptop> Dark_Blue_Bird, if you run "ifconfig" is the state of the wifi UP?[20:26:28] <Dark_Blue_Bird> yes it is[20:26:32] <Dark_Blue_Bird> it's connected to my wifi[20:26:38] <Dark_Blue_Bird> inet and inet 6[20:26:52] <Dark_Blue_Bird> dhcpcd is running[20:26:57] <Dark_Blue_Bird> checked DNS as well[20:28:47] <Strit_Laptop> I can't help you further, since the NIC is up, and you can ping that. So the wifi device IS working. What's your default gateway?[20:29:57] <Dark_Blue_Bird> 192.168.2.1[20:30:53] <Dark_Blue_Bird> maybe some issues cause I'm booting from USB drive?[20:33:13] *** tumudifork <tumudifork!~kaksd@117.195.248.26> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:33:54] <Dark_Blue_Bird> yup it's my card[20:34:17] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has left #manjaro ("Night")[20:34:17] <Dark_Blue_Bird> connected my atheros wireless USB adapter and it works instantly after associating with the router[20:34:38] <Dark_Blue_Bird> my Realtek isn't working[20:34:55] <Dark_Blue_Bird> somebody messed something up with the arch kernel cause it works for me on arch[20:35:04] <Dark_Blue_Bird> any ideas? should I get it from github ?[20:35:09] <Dark_Blue_Bird> the driver[20:35:40] *** Afshaal <Afshaal!~Afshaal@host-174-45-178-216.chy-wy.client.bresnan.net> has joined #manjaro[20:36:12] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[20:36:16] *** Afshaal <Afshaal!~Afshaal@host-174-45-178-216.chy-wy.client.bresnan.net> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[20:37:02] * Strit_Laptop is watching The Mask (1994).[20:37:48] <jurislav> Strit_Laptop: old classic..[20:37:56] <jurislav> been in cinema on that one ;)[20:38:14] <jurislav> with my grandma, back in the young days..[20:38:39] <jurislav> any network guy here..?[20:38:55] <Dark_Blue_Bird> need one too lol[20:39:05] <jurislav> trying to figure out 3-site ldap + radius..[20:39:16] <Dark_Blue_Bird> sry can't help u xd[20:41:51] <jurislav> Dark_Blue_Bird: what ar your routes?[20:42:08] <jurislav> and what flavour of mnjr you have?[20:42:25] <jurislav> is eth working or not?[20:42:30] <jurislav> i mean connect by cable[20:42:32] <jurislav> not via wifi[20:42:42] <Dark_Blue_Bird> it's wireless[20:42:47] <Dark_Blue_Bird> rtl8821ae is my card[20:42:53] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I can't ping my gateway[20:43:11] <Dark_Blue_Bird> but I'm connected to my wifi. did that with the Network manager provided in the installation[20:43:16] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I have an inet and inet6[20:43:39] <jurislav> i read your conversation, si I just picked up[20:43:44] <Dark_Blue_Bird> connecting an USB wifi card (atheros) solves the problem but it's just not working with my pic[20:43:48] <jurislav> answer my questions please[20:43:50] <Dark_Blue_Bird> aah ok[20:43:53] <Dark_Blue_Bird> okay[20:43:56] <Dark_Blue_Bird> sry haha[20:44:05] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:44:24] <jurislav> flavour? router? cable working?[20:44:38] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I have the i3 version of manjaro was on archlinux 2h ago but messed it up. no time to set it up again rn so manjaro is like an emergency solution[20:44:43] <Dark_Blue_Bird> yeah[20:44:45] <Dark_Blue_Bird> all working[20:44:48] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:45:17] <jurislav> so we isolated the problem to the wifi card[20:45:24] <Dark_Blue_Bird> that dude said it's based on arch true it's but apparently not everything[20:45:29] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[20:45:30] <Dark_Blue_Bird> yeah[20:45:37] <Dark_Blue_Bird> just the card[20:45:45] <jurislav> you have 16.04 i3 i guess..? the newest one?[20:45:50] <Dark_Blue_Bird> yes[20:45:59] <Dark_Blue_Bird> 16.04.1[20:46:17] <Strit_Laptop> newest i3 manjaro is 16.06.1[20:46:27] <jurislav> correct[20:46:48] <jurislav> try 16.06.1 or even different DE[20:47:16] <jurislav> 2-3 days ago I went through half of the newest manjaro flavours, all worked perfectly[20:47:28] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I have 16.06.1[20:47:31] <Dark_Blue_Bird> sry just checked[20:47:36] <Dark_Blue_Bird> it's the newest[20:47:45] <Dark_Blue_Bird> downloaded it 15 mins ago[20:47:49] <jurislav> isn't it like a nightly build or so?[20:48:09] <Strit_Laptop> jurislav, no.[20:48:12] <Dark_Blue_Bird> not sure[20:48:20] <jurislav> try different community flavour. i suggest cinnamon[20:48:27] <Strit_Laptop> 16.08-dev's are weekly now I think.[20:48:41] <Dark_Blue_Bird> thx but got used to this wm on arch xd[20:48:47] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I'll eventually if I won't solve it[20:49:11] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I'll try to get the driver from github[20:49:22] <jurislav> change of flavour is a very quick and efficient test[20:49:39] <Strit_Laptop> probably won't solev anything with driver from github. My guess is that it's the exact same driver.[20:50:10] <Dark_Blue_Bird> the driver from github worked with Ubuntu xubuntu etc[20:50:22] <Dark_Blue_Bird> had issues with them too a while ago[20:50:45] <Dark_Blue_Bird> why did it work in arch?[20:50:49] <Strit_Laptop> Dark_Blue_Bird, well ubuntu and debian stuff has reputation for being out of date.[20:51:08] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I see[20:51:14] <jurislav> Strit_Laptop: ubuntu out of date..?[20:51:38] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:51:42] <Strit_Laptop> jurislav, software in ubuntu repo's are old compared to Arch and Manjaro.[20:52:00] *** tix_ <tix_!~tix@176.139.185.179> has joined #manjaro[20:52:02] <tix_> Hi[20:52:41] <jurislav> Strit_Laptop: anything is old compared to arch, BUT it's well (better?) tested, on the other hand[20:52:45] <Dark_Blue_Bird> arch is bleeding edge ofc it's always up to the millisecond[20:52:53] <Dark_Blue_Bird> lol[20:52:53] <jurislav> newest != better[20:53:03] <Dark_Blue_Bird> dude[20:53:07] <Dark_Blue_Bird> didn't have problems at all[20:53:14] <Dark_Blue_Bird> for a long time with bleeding edge[20:53:20] <jurislav> plus.. is the wifi card cutting-edge hw or so..?[20:53:23] <Dark_Blue_Bird> unless you're incompetent you'll break it sure[20:53:35] <Dark_Blue_Bird> ^^[20:53:35] <jurislav> how old is the machine?[20:53:43] <Dark_Blue_Bird> my laptop?[20:53:47] <jurislav> yes[20:53:55] <Dark_Blue_Bird> not a year old[20:53:59] <Dark_Blue_Bird> idk some month[20:54:00] <Dark_Blue_Bird> 9?[20:54:13] <jurislav> so if it's supported, should work[20:54:39] <jurislav> sometimes, very rarely, it could happen that particular version of hw and particular version of sw is incompatible[20:54:52] <Dark_Blue_Bird> worked on arch not on manjaro damn was getting excited xd[20:54:52] <jurislav> like very rare match[20:55:01] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I see[20:55:01] <jurislav> :)[20:55:10] <Dark_Blue_Bird> maybe I'm the unlucky person[20:55:13] <jurislav> like I said.. try another flavour. my guess is it's just a glitch[20:55:25] <Dark_Blue_Bird> okay[20:56:51] <Matumaros> I have occasional screen flickering on my external monitor, how do I go about fixing that?[20:56:55] <Dark_Blue_Bird> but this i3 is so cool xd[20:57:14] <jurislav> Matumaros: it happens[20:57:25] <Dark_Blue_Bird> ok last try I'll chroot into it and copy all configs etc and get a new networkmanager[20:57:29] <jurislav> not sure how serious it is,but it happens on my pc as well[20:57:47] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@217.73.143.14> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:58:02] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@151.247.242.165> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:58:31] <Matumaros> jurislav: well, not that often, but it's still annoying[21:01:26] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[21:03:38] *** manjaroCinnamon1 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arch but not on manjaro. since it's based on arch I can't even get a driver form github cause it'll probably mess my installation up[21:46:55] <GenZai> I'm a newbie so I can't help on that one :([21:47:17] <Dark_Blue_Bird> it's chill[21:47:22] <Dark_Blue_Bird> same re here ig[21:47:31] <GenZai> Can't you test it in a virtual machine?[21:47:59] <PMunch> Matumaros, I had something like this which I fixed recently[21:48:05] <PMunch> If it's what I think it is[21:48:18] <Dark_Blue_Bird> I can but it works with an external network card. just not my pci. also Ren systemctl start dhcpcd[21:48:22] <Dark_Blue_Bird> ran*[21:48:22] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[21:48:55] *** heissestute75 is now known as kaltestute75[21:49:02] <Matumaros> PMunch: well, the monitor goes black for less than a blink of an eye[21:49:25] <PMunch> Hmm, seems like what I had. But mine would be gone for a couple of secs :P[21:49:40] *** lixa <lixa!~lixa@unaffiliated/lixa> has joined #manjaro[21:51:00] <PMunch> I discovered that in my case the screen wasn't able to handle the bandwidth the graphics card was pumping out pixels in.[21:51:13] <PMunch> But you can get around it by setting your own display mode[21:51:42] <PMunch> Basically run "cvt -r 1920x1080" (or whatever your res is)[21:52:17] <PMunch> That returns a modeline for a 1920x1080@60Hz signal (cvt has an option for other frequencies as well if you need that)[21:52:52] <PMunch> Then using xrandr add and set this mode for you monitor as pr. the manual and voila, no more flickering.[21:52:52] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:53:55] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[21:54:27] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.116.116> has joined #manjaro[21:57:44] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[22:02:44] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@84.126.45.136.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #manjaro[22:03:53] *** jonathon <jonathon!~jonathonf@unaffiliated/jonathon> has joined #manjaro[22:03:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v jonathon[22:04:19] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@84.126.45.136.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:04:20] *** sgm <sgm!~sgm@78.96.149.39> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:04:27] <kefz> done![22:04:29] <kefz> :P[22:05:15] *** jonathon <jonathon!~jonathonf@unaffiliated/jonathon> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:05:26] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:06:13] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[22:07:15] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@agkn137.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[22:07:49] *** kaltestute75 <kaltestute75!~Manjarous@x590cd3bb.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:10:38] *** Fahim <Fahim!~manjaro-k@84.126.45.136.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #manjaro[22:11:37] *** Fahim <Fahim!~manjaro-k@84.126.45.136.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:13:05] *** lixa <lixa!~lixa@unaffiliated/lixa> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:19:15] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@151.247.242.165> has joined #manjaro[22:19:18] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: the mac is asleep)[22:20:22] <Matumaros> PMunch: Thank you, I did that, we'll see if it worked :)[22:20:33] <PMunch> It worked for me at least :)[22:20:46] *** linux-dream <linux-dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[22:21:11] <linux-dream> hello people . I'm trying to clean up my system. installed manjaro a few hours ago[22:21:21] <linux-dream> What is lib32-libcurl-gnutls for?[22:21:47] <linux-dream> I noticed that mutilib repository is enabled in manjaro, for 32 bits packages.... why? what program needs that?[22:23:00] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[22:23:03] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:25:03] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@d4.7b.39a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:28:59] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[22:30:26] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has joined #manjaro[22:32:00] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[22:32:23] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@d4.7b.39a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com> has joined #manjaro[22:33:09] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[22:38:51] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!~Matumaros@aftr-185-17-205-202.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:39:27] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@151.247.242.165> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[22:45:24] <Lowl3v3l> linux-dream, sorry for not being around earlier[22:46:09] <Lowl3v3l> linux-dream, some programs need this, specifically those without a 64 bit version or binary programs, though most likely you wont need it. Its enabled because manjaaro has some policies that some might consider questionable^^[22:46:27] *** cspack_ <cspack_!~cspack@162.216.46.29> has joined #manjaro[22:46:56] <Lowl3v3l> linux-dream, if you want a tiny and/or specifically fast system i'd suggest not using manjaro and configuring it all yourself, its usually easier than stripping a more or less "bloated" distro.[22:47:31] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.193> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:53:29] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:54:07] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[22:54:27] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[22:58:48] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[22:59:24] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[22:59:36] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@172.98.67.108> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:00:59] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[23:02:47] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.156> has quit IRC (Quit: Nishikino-Maki)[23:04:20] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:05:48] *** br1s <br1s!~eino@kon5.kyla.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[23:06:07] *** Fingli <Fingli!~Fingli@unaffiliated/fingli> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:18:54] *** allthings_py <allthings_py!~Avinash@146.196.33.210> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:20:19] *** restefan <restefan!b2c06df8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.178.192.109.248> has joined #manjaro[23:23:25] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[23:23:50] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.198> has joined #manjaro[23:24:01] <linux-dream> yes i know Lowl3v3l but it's a long story of why i installed manjaro on this machine[23:24:05] <linux-dream> i have arch on my other one[23:24:32] <linux-dream> i used pacman to check what was going on with lib32-libcurl-gnutls but the info is contradictory[23:24:43] <linux-dream> pacman -Qi lib32-libcurl-gnutls returns a bunch of stuff including:[23:24:54] <linux-dream> Install Reason : Installed as a dependency for another package[23:25:05] <linux-dream> Required By : None[23:25:20] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:25:20] <linux-dream> so what the heck is this package?[23:25:43] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@109-93-56-149.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[23:25:43] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-235.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:25:46] <linux-dream> on my arch system i have 0 32 bits package[23:25:54] <linux-dream> multilib is disabled[23:25:59] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@201.230.158.208> has joined #manjaro[23:26:10] <linux-dream> just wondering what I'd break if I removed those lib32 things on manjaro[23:26:22] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@109-93-56-149.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Changing host)[23:26:22] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@unaffiliated/bad63r> has joined #manjaro[23:26:30] *** gpk <gpk!~eiffi@unaffiliated/eiffi> has joined #manjaro[23:27:06] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@l37-195-101-53.novotelecom.ru> has joined #manjaro[23:28:14] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@l37-195-101-53.novotelecom.ru> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:29:51] *** Dark_Blue_Bird <Dark_Blue_Bird!~Shark@178.162.198.111> has quit IRC (Quit: -a- IRC for Android 2.1.31)[23:31:58] *** Dark_Blue_Bird <Dark_Blue_Bird!~Shark@178.162.198.111> has joined #manjaro[23:32:02] *** teo- <teo-!~teo@kde/teo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:32:02] <Dark_Blue_Bird> hello[23:32:13] <Dark_Blue_Bird> pls some manjaro network pros kings on?[23:32:39] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[23:33:38] <zshfu> Dark_Blue_Bird, just ask your question and people will answer if they can[23:33:53] <Dark_Blue_Bird> good I have issues with my network card[23:33:56] <Dark_Blue_Bird> connected to wifi[23:34:09] <Dark_Blue_Bird> have inet and inet6 address but can't ling my gateway[23:34:20] <Dark_Blue_Bird> external USB adapter works just not the pci card[23:34:56] <Dark_Blue_Bird> thought it'd work flawlessly since manjaro is based on arch. this card worked on arch perfectly with the kernel driver already on the arch iso[23:35:18] <Dark_Blue_Bird> ping my gateway *[23:35:26] <Dark_Blue_Bird> or Google etc[23:35:53] *** restefan <restefan!b2c06df8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.178.192.109.248> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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