July 7, 2016 
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July 7, 2016 [00:01:16] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!58d9b528@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.217.181.40> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:01:26] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has joined #manjaro[00:02:11] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.250.143.249> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:02:24] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@96.red-88-6-201.staticip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[00:02:48] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:155b:d::1007> has quit IRC (Quit: is time traveling to the future)[00:04:20] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@96.red-88-6-201.staticip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:04:50] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:06:00] *** chinesesausage <chinesesausage!~cscadmin@187.157.159.226> has joined #manjaro[00:06:37] <chinesesausage> I like Manjaro better than Arch[00:10:00] <aajjbb> Hi guys[00:10:12] <aajjbb> I have a fresh install from Manjaro 16.02 with Gnome.[00:10:28] <aajjbb> And it's taking ages in boot time (literally, over 40 minutes)[00:11:00] <aajjbb> To be fair, I'm not sure how much time does it takes because I didn't counted.[00:11:05] <mtn> aajjbb: do you only have one hard drive?[00:11:09] <chinesesausage> too much. Is the hard drive ok?[00:11:19] <aajjbb> It is ok.[00:11:31] <aajjbb> I suspect it takes this long checking the disk.[00:11:33] <chinesesausage> Manjaro Gnome takes about 35-45 seconds on a regular HDD[00:11:38] <mtn> aajjbb: do you only have one hard drive?[00:11:39] <aajjbb> Maybe my / partition is too big (120 gb)[00:11:46] <aajjbb> mtn: one unique hard drive[00:11:47] <mtn> aajjbb: NO[00:11:57] <mtn> aajjbb: ok, how did the live disk boot?[00:12:03] <chinesesausage> that's not an issue with the long boot[00:13:10] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@ti0050a400-0462.bb.online.no> has joined #manjaro[00:13:32] <PMunch> Hi, how do I set my machine to output audio over HDMI?[00:13:47] *** jinsun <jinsun!~sm@124.155.253.184> has joined #manjaro[00:13:49] <mtn> PMunch: you use pavucontrol to change the settings[00:13:53] <chinesesausage> you can try reparing the HDD, by entering with a live disk[00:14:00] <mtn> aajjbb: ok, how did the live disk boot?[00:14:28] <PMunch> mtn, I don't seem to have it..[00:14:32] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:14:42] <mtn> PMunch: install it?[00:14:44] <chinesesausage> and in the terminal: sudo fsck /dev/sda1[00:14:50] *** jinsun <jinsun!~sm@124.155.253.184> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:15:31] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[00:16:50] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[00:17:39] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@dvx47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:18:20] <PMunch> Thanks mtn :)[00:18:21] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@ti0050a400-0462.bb.online.no> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[00:18:35] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:18:36] *** cobra-the-joker_ <cobra-the-joker_!~cobrathe-@156.208.47.221> has joined #manjaro[00:18:48] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[00:18:52] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[00:19:28] <chinesesausage> hiya CountryfiedLinux[00:20:42] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@dvx47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:20:46] <chinesesausage> then try booting[00:22:39] *** cobra-the-joker <cobra-the-joker!~cobrathe-@156.208.42.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[00:23:50] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B20813E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:24:43] *** TestingKDE <TestingKDE!~Manjarous@41.82.142.2> has joined #manjaro[00:26:54] <TestingKDE> Hello, Guys, how can I install Manjaro in a SD card ?[00:27:20] *** manjaro-web|4774 <manjaro-web|4774!29528e02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.82.142.2> has joined #manjaro[00:27:53] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[00:28:08] <chinesesausage> yes you can[00:29:06] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[00:29:23] <chinesesausage> alternatively, you can make a live USB with 4Gb persistence[00:29:54] <chinesesausage> so you can make save the changes you make on the SD[00:30:01] <chinesesausage> sorry, live SD[00:30:55] <TestingKDE> Oh you mean with a live SD I can save change???[00:33:59] <chinesesausage> yes[00:35:11] <TestingKDE> chinesesausage, I never knew about this, I though an SD act just like an USB, where you lost everything everytime you reboot[00:35:43] *** cobra-the-joker_ is now known as cobra-the-joker[00:35:48] <chinesesausage> at least I have done it with a USBm using persistence[00:35:50] *** cobra-the-joker <cobra-the-joker!~cobrathe-@156.208.47.221> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:35:50] *** cobra-the-joker <cobra-the-joker!~cobrathe-@unaffiliated/cobra-the-joker> has joined #manjaro[00:35:57] <chinesesausage> *USB[00:36:20] <chinesesausage> but it is possible with an SD card as well (haven't tried it myself)[00:36:39] *** tmnvanderberg <tmnvanderberg!~tmnvander@52481FAE.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[00:36:44] <chinesesausage> see you later. I'm headed home. Closing the office[00:37:24] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@dvx47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:37:32] <TestingKDE> ok thanks[00:37:54] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@197.117.70.145> has joined #manjaro[00:38:03] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@197.117.70.145> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:38:41] *** cobra-the-joker_ <cobra-the-joker_!~cobrathe-@156.208.143.127> has joined #manjaro[00:39:01] <chinesesausage> going for some beef tacos to go on the way home. Bye![00:39:24] <chinesesausage> good luck with your SD install. Let me know if it works for you[00:39:29] *** chinesesausage <chinesesausage!~cscadmin@187.157.159.226> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:39:39] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@h43n13-lid-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:41:30] *** cobra-the-joker <cobra-the-joker!~cobrathe-@unaffiliated/cobra-the-joker> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[00:41:57] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@dvx47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:42:43] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@h43n13-lid-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[00:43:26] *** cobra-the-joker_ <cobra-the-joker_!~cobrathe-@156.208.143.127> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[00:53:51] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:56:26] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@ppp91-122-160-14.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[00:56:40] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:56:55] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[01:00:50] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:02:01] *** BAckslash <BAckslash!4354b45a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.84.180.90> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[01:04:29] *** TestingKDE <TestingKDE!~Manjarous@41.82.142.2> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:04:37] *** manjaro-web|4774 <manjaro-web|4774!29528e02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.82.142.2> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[01:07:46] *** cobra-the-joker <cobra-the-joker!~cobrathe-@156.208.98.136> has joined #manjaro[01:08:03] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@pool-72-80-109-69.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[01:08:21] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@pool-72-80-109-69.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has left #manjaro[01:09:00] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@178-222-136-240.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[01:09:26] *** sm00th <sm00th!~manjaro-k@unaffiliated/sm00th> has joined #manjaro[01:09:34] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@178-222-136-240.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:09:34] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@unaffiliated/bad63r> has joined #manjaro[01:09:35] <aajjbb> sorry for the late, the boot goes smootly with the live cd.[01:10:01] <aajjbb> before installing this new manjaro with gnome, i had manjaro-mate running smootly[01:10:33] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@dvx47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:10:47] *** cobra-the-joker_ <cobra-the-joker_!~cobrathe-@156.208.143.139> has joined #manjaro[01:11:43] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@dvx47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[01:12:00] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:12:00] *** cobra-the-joker <cobra-the-joker!~cobrathe-@156.208.98.136> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:14:33] *** Akeno is now known as Condor[01:17:16] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mbaeyrwimgktrlwk> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:20:43] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@dvx47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:25:19] <bad63r> Does any1 has problem playing .mkv files with vlc or some other player?[01:25:41] <bad63r> 00 % my cpu goes up to 100% and whole system just freez[01:26:56] *** cyanoz <cyanoz!~cyanoz@2600:8801:2104:5d00::1> has joined #manjaro[01:27:06] <cyanoz> hello?[01:29:09] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt <Manj-1604-Lxqt!~manjaro@host-2-98-87-212.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[01:29:23] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt <Manj-1604-Lxqt!~manjaro@host-2-98-87-212.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:29:32] <mtn> bad63r: what video driver are you using? have you tried another one?[01:29:44] <bad63r> i'm using nvidia prop driver[01:29:57] <mtn> bad63r: how does it work with nouveau?[01:30:07] <bad63r> don't know really.[01:30:15] <mtn> bad63r: you should test it to see[01:30:17] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[01:30:17] *** naitsabes <naitsabes!~naitsabes@unaffiliated/naitsabes> has joined #manjaro[01:30:20] <bad63r> i think that i3 can't run without prop driver[01:30:26] <bad63r> atleast that was case on arch[01:30:39] <bad63r> i3 would not start without nvidia prop drivers[01:30:46] <bad63r> I didn't even try[01:30:52] <bad63r> mb that would work[01:31:07] <bad63r> I don't play any games so that shouldnt bother me?[01:31:17] <mtn> bad63r: why on earth would a minimilist desktop need a fancy driver? I could see it with gnome or kde[01:31:38] <bad63r> duno, as I said, it wouldnt run. just black screen[01:31:47] <bad63r> and when i installed nvidia driver it worked[01:31:50] <bad63r> that was on arch[01:32:00] <bad63r> when i skiped to manjaro bcs of lack of time[01:32:06] <bad63r> i didn't even try with nouveau drivers[01:32:09] <mtn> bad63r: test it and see?[01:32:22] <bad63r> I will[01:32:24] <mtn> bad63r: it had to boot on nouveau the first time, right?[01:32:50] <cyanoz> anybodybody else having trouble with guayadeque?[01:32:54] <bad63r> noup, at instalation, i chosed nvidia drivers[01:33:07] <bad63r> so I never started with nouveau drivers[01:33:21] <cyanoz> like it not being able to browse files or directories?[01:33:28] <mtn> bad63r: didn't know the installer had a driver option. never saw it[01:33:33] <bad63r> :D[01:33:53] <mtn> bad63r: if you are saying you chose nvidia in the live disk, that is different[01:34:13] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:34:19] <bad63r> not installer, well kinda instaler, when u boot first time the system live, it ask you do you wanna boot with nvidia driver or nouveau, which you chose those will be installed[01:34:24] <bad63r> when you install system[01:34:39] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[01:35:00] <mtn> bad63r: pretty nice, but could be the cause of your problem[01:35:28] <bad63r> I need to check command for returning to nvidia drivers and I'm rdy to try to switch[01:36:03] *** sm00th <sm00th!~manjaro-k@unaffiliated/sm00th> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:39:07] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:41:47] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:42:09] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[01:44:20] 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Does anyone know how I can change the DHCP Client Identifier in Manjaro? I already edited /etc/dhcpcd.conf and changed it to clientid but still the MAC address will not be sent[10:26:00] <Kurisutian> I'm running Manjaro at my workplace and I need the MAC address delivered for the DNS/DHCP request to get a "static" IP. Unfortunately this does not work with clientid as it seems.... :-([10:26:35] *** steepleone <steepleone!~ray@LFbn-1-6760-250.w90-120.abo.wanadoo.fr> has left #manjaro[10:34:25] <zshfu> Kuristan, which DE are you using? In nm-applet you can click on connection, select "edit", and then you can change DHCP client ID in "IPv4 Settings" tab[10:34:40] <Strit_Work> Sadly I'm not a dhcpd expert.[10:35:12] <zshfu> And MAC can be changed in Wi-Fi / Ethernet tab[10:36:35] <Strit_Work> zshfu: You sure the MAC can be changed? They are usually hardcoded onto the chip.[10:37:09] <peetaur2> they are hardcoded on the chip, but the software can choose to use another if given one[10:37:30] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[10:37:37] <peetaur2> just as you can bond some together and they share a mac over the wire, the hw is not going to enforce a specific mac[10:38:09] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-169-244.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[10:39:09] <zshfu> also, there is usually no reason to change your mac unless you are on other peoples networks and need privacy or are up to shady things[10:39:17] *** Softeisbieger <Softeisbieger!~Softeisbi@ip-62-143-13-166.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[10:39:17] <Kurisutian> I'm running KDE. It seems like the cause is from NetworkManager not respecting the clientid setting... running dhcpcd manually pulls the correct IP. So the question is where can I set the clientid option in NetworkManager?[10:39:53] <Kurisutian> It's not about changing the MAC. I want the MAC address to be used as an identifier...[10:40:20] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@217.145.199.28> has joined #manjaro[10:41:06] <Kurisutian> currently it does use the duid which seems to be from NetworkManager... changing the method in /etc/dhcpcd.conf did not affect NetworkManager at all as it seems[10:42:46] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-13107.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[10:44:03] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:44:15] <zshfu> Kurisutian, I don't use KDE so can't really help you here other than there should probably be a setting for it in NetworkManager[10:46:41] <Kurisutian> zshfu: Do you know where I can find which setting to put in there? I could not find anything in my initial search that has to be added to the /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file[10:46:54] <peetaur2> Kurisutian: is there a specific reason you need networkmanager? (eg. moving a wireless device between business and home and connect to multiple APs) or can you just drop it and use the regular stuff?[10:47:40] <Strit_Work> peetaur2: network manager is the regular stuff on manjaro. :P[10:48:43] <Kurisutian> I might have found something.... Networkmanager was using the internal dhcp which I changed to dhcpcd... maybe this will work now... just found that... :-)[10:50:12] <jurislav> hello. anyone knows how to modify global keyboard shortcuts in a config file? my goal is to set some single-key shortcuts, which GUI doesn't allow me to[10:50:22] <jurislav> provided it's actually possible, ofcourse[10:51:00] <jurislav> any ideas..?[10:51:44] <Strit_Work> jurislav: so shortcuts that would work in every DE and even in TTY?[10:52:04] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[10:52:25] <Strit_Work> jurislav: Maybe this can help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xbindkeys[10:52:26] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/ld7qsl] Xbindkeys - ArchWiki[10:53:36] <peetaur2> Strit_Work: gui oriented stuff that doesn't work properly on cli and doesn't store things in user editable files is not normal stuff ever for me :P[10:54:10] <peetaur2> Strit_Work: eg. move your disk to another machine, and chroot into it, and use nm cli to dump the config. It'll REFUSE saying you can't possibly want the config, since your network card is not found. PoS.[10:55:13] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[10:57:06] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:57:50] <jurislav> Strit_Work: thx, i'll give a try. but I thought it's possible via a config file, like most things in linux. i am using cinnamon, which is built on Gnome3. I wanted, for example, Expo view to be triggered by just Meta (win) key, like it is in gnome. cinnamon doesn't allow me to do that..[10:59:14] <Strit_Work> jurislav: is probably is saved in a conf file. But for the DE you are using. So the gnome shortcuts are saved in a gnome specific conf file etc.[11:00:15] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-108.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[11:01:00] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[11:01:05] <jurislav> Strit_Work: exactly, I just can't find it :)[11:01:31] <steepleone> catfish[11:08:12] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[11:16:20] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has joined #manjaro[11:19:14] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@85.175.194.148> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:20:45] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-169-244.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:28:14] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991667.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[11:28:44] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[11:28:54] *** alxndr13 <alxndr13!~alxndr13@HSI-KBW-078-042-082-043.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[11:30:22] *** WINow <WINow!a8a75e54@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.168.167.94.84> has joined #manjaro[11:30:29] <WINow> yo[11:31:00] <Strit_Work> hi there[11:31:07] <WINow> sup[11:31:41] <Wildfyr> sup[11:32:06] <WINow> nm just looking at pc parts .. u?[11:33:49] <jurislav> weird.. i installed bomi-fresh(aur), now my Home folder shortcut (ctrl+alt+e) launches Bomi and its Open folder dialog :)[11:34:36] <Strit_Work> maybe that's a shortcut bomi-fresh uses default?[11:42:40] <Wildfyr> WINow: not much, wondering what do in ruby[11:42:57] <WINow> xd[11:46:02] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:52:52] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[11:57:16] *** satu <satu!~satu@83-245-233-173-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #manjaro[11:59:07] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[11:59:26] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has joined #manjaro[12:00:13] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[12:00:28] <Strit_Work> Wow. My Samsung Galaxy S5 just got the software update from 5.0 to 6.0! Marshmollow, here I come![12:00:49] <WINow> lol[12:00:56] <WINow> i wanna get the s4 xd[12:01:03] <WINow> small and simple[12:01:33] <Strit_Work> Samsung told us, that the S5 would not get android 6, but would be kept on android 5.[12:01:44] *** satu <satu!~satu@83-245-233-173-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:01:57] *** satu <satu!~satu@83-245-233-173-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #manjaro[12:02:25] *** satu <satu!~satu@83-245-233-173-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:03:03] <WINow> just root it[12:03:23] <WINow> touchwiz is okay-ish in some ways[12:03:24] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[12:03:28] <WINow> but dont like it at all[12:03:47] <Strit_Work> I won't root it, but I do use the Google Launcher instead. :P[12:03:50] <vexare> i'm curious, do you have the same kernel?[12:03:57] <vexare> as on 5.1?[12:04:18] <WINow> oh yea here is the worst thing[12:04:20] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@197.117.70.145> has joined #manjaro[12:04:21] <vexare> anyway marshmallow isnt too much of a big deal[12:04:33] <vexare> android 7 is the important update[12:04:39] <WINow> i had done a minor upgrade on my nexus 4 and then it got bricked >.<[12:04:41] <vexare> cause new java libraries[12:05:00] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@197.117.70.145> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:06:10] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[12:06:21] <Strit_Work> vexare: no idea about the kernel yet. Will know when it's updated. :)[12:06:22] <vexare> android 5 was a minor update too[12:07:07] <vexare> ART was already a developer option on 4.4[12:07:12] <WINow> nougat[12:07:18] <WINow> wat kind of name is that lel[12:07:26] <vexare> chocolate[12:07:31] <WINow> they should have just maybe called it nutella[12:07:38] <WINow> i had it once and it was sickening[12:08:28] <vexare> pretty much the big android releases were 2.3 and 4.4[12:09:35] <Strit_Work> I wonder if the Doze capabilities are in this update for the samsung, or if that's strictly a nexus thing.[12:10:21] <WINow> its in the api[12:11:04] <vexare> doze its bullshit anyway[12:12:13] <WINow> well the manjaro community should make a light mobile OS also xd[12:12:27] <WINow> just basic apps like whatsapp file explorer etc..[12:13:01] <WINow> just apps which u use the most[12:13:15] <WINow> android is getting annoying... auto updates blah blah xd[12:13:35] <WINow> play store is not that even much organised[12:13:50] <WINow> u search for something and then somehting else shows up which is not related...[12:13:51] <Strit_Work> manjaro has no business in the mobile market. Ubuntu can barely get by there.[12:14:17] <WINow> i would try to make one .... but wannabe dev xd[12:14:51] <Strit_Work> WINow: well, you can get a base from manjaro-arm and build from there? :P[12:14:53] <peetaur2> ubuntu is for profit... they die if they don't profit. manjaro can't die.[12:15:32] <Strit_Work> Manjaro does not have the team size / man power for it either. :)[12:15:50] <WINow> Strit_Work: well that would be nice... but i need to learn programming and wat not..[12:16:10] <WINow> i did a bit but meh ...[12:16:35] <WINow> ahh[12:16:36] <Strit_Work> WINow: what you need to know is chroot, package management, architecture management and how to flash a device.[12:17:09] <WINow> need to learn linux as well xd[12:17:14] <Strit_Work> I believe someone got manjaro to run on a tablet once.[12:17:21] <WINow> basically need to learn everything[12:17:29] <WINow> nice[12:18:09] <Strit_Work> I know dodge got Arch Linux on a tablet at some point.[12:18:15] <WINow> if i take time to learn u think i will be able to make some money outta it? xd[12:18:36] <WINow> i need to build a gaming pc.. thjis laptop is 8+ years old[12:18:37] <WINow> lol[12:18:51] <Strit_Work> WINow: make money, probably not. Get some donations, highly possible.[12:18:53] <WINow> $4k or 5k[12:19:01] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:19:08] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/cspack> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:19:27] <WINow> any ideas on making money online by the end of the year?[12:19:39] <WINow> really need a new pc[12:19:39] <Strit_Work> My $1K desktop is still hanging in there. :)[12:19:45] <WINow> want the best items to get[12:20:06] <WINow> my laptop has integrated graphics which cant even play flash games smoothly lel[12:20:12] <WINow> like agario or diep[12:20:16] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[12:20:39] <Strit_Work> For making money, it usually requires you to have a certain skill set. Do you have a skill set?[12:20:59] <WINow> hmm.. maybe a bit but need to build on it[12:21:53] <Strit_Work> I can't programme/code or anything, but I know my way around the command line, to a degree. :)[12:22:15] <WINow> i have done a bit of coding on code.org xd[12:22:22] <WINow> linux i have never been on it much[12:22:43] <WINow> so i dont know the command line except for sudo pacman lel xd[12:22:58] <Strit_Work> I feel you learn alot from creating your own PKGBUILD. I know I did.[12:23:36] <WINow> i have quite a few ideas[12:23:42] <WINow> just need to create them[12:23:51] <WINow> thats why i said wanna be dev xd[12:23:57] <WINow> wannabe*[12:24:36] <WINow> i have seen some tutorials but they say do this and that... then wat next when u done?! xd[12:24:48] <Strit_Work> Learn a programming language, get certified even, then you might be able to join a project that makes money. :)[12:25:04] <WINow> yea i was on python[12:25:29] <WINow> since its syntax is quite user-friendly compared to java lel[12:26:01] <Strit_Work> Yeah. I stick my nose in python once in a while. never got around to actually dig in.[12:27:32] <peetaur2> heh heh... friendly. Java is more "friendly" which is a bad thing...gets in the way of creative hackery, but good for the 'infinite monkeys on infinite computer terminals' style of development.[12:28:12] <peetaur2> (not to say Java's not great... it just slows you down often)[12:28:29] <WINow> how so? public main void blah blah blah[12:28:48] <WINow> system.out.print.line blah blah[12:28:50] <peetaur2> so what? that's like ctrl-shift-m or something in your IDE[12:28:56] <peetaur2> and it serves a purpose[12:29:00] <WINow> python : print "Hello World"[12:29:07] <WINow> xd[12:29:20] <WINow> yea thats why android jerks at times[12:29:31] <WINow> ios rarely jerks crashes cause they use C++[12:29:33] <peetaur2> to do a proper python program, yo uhave to do the same like this: def main(): ...... if __name__ == "__main__": return main() which is just as much crud[12:30:04] <WINow> xd[12:30:12] <WINow> u do the same in java for functions :P[12:30:23] <peetaur2> but "friendly" is what I was saying was used wrong... it's friendly that python lets you do it wrong and sloppy but it works, but in java, it's strict to prevent errors and side effects, which doesn't always help, oftne slows you down, but sometimes helps save time.[12:30:27] <WINow> but never really got the return main() part[12:30:41] <peetaur2> er I meant exit rather than return there[12:30:48] <peetaur2> you want to exit with the code your main gave it if you use that[12:31:27] <WINow> and if something is in the paranthesis? the parameters?[12:32:12] <WINow> like def main (something) :[12:32:35] <WINow> those are the 2 things which confuses me and i dont really get fully[12:32:57] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991667.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:33:00] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@151.245.113.166> has joined #manjaro[12:33:21] <peetaur2> with C and java, you can only give it main(int argc, char **argc) and main(String args[]), but in python you can do whatever, since main is just a convention and not an API[12:33:33] <manjaro-kde5> hi[12:33:43] <WINow> hi[12:34:04] <WINow> yea i get that[12:34:10] <WINow> java and c enforce more strict rules[12:34:32] <WINow> whether the variable is a string or integer or boolean[12:34:48] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991667.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:35:30] <Strit_Work> Alright guys. I pretty much lost me. :P[12:35:38] <WINow> xd[12:35:55] <WINow> ok well change topic[12:36:07] <WINow> zen + vega[12:36:11] <peetaur2> Strit_Work: please learn C, Java and python and return here.[12:36:14] <WINow> probably coming end of the year[12:36:22] <peetaur2> zen as in AMD's new thing?[12:36:27] <WINow> peetaur2: he is not a programmer[12:36:30] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:36:30] <peetaur2> or as in 100 other things that chose the same silly name?[12:36:31] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991667.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:36:33] <WINow> yea the new CPU[12:36:40] <WINow> will drop the price for intel cpus[12:36:45] <peetaur2> I also hope zen doesn't suck.[12:37:03] <WINow> cause they will now get competition.. yea.. they price their products reasonable[12:37:30] <peetaur2> I'm guessing it'll perform as they promise in regular number crunching, but I'm excited to see if it also performs well with GPUs (which strnagely i3s can outperform bulldozers with, even when bulldozers have many times the CPU power)[12:37:45] <WINow> radeon rx 480 is out and well its ok card for 200 dollars but it draws more power from the PCI-E slot and can fry the slot on ur motherboard[12:38:13] <peetaur2> WINow: uh don't they use the PCI-e power connector directly these days, not the slot?[12:38:18] <WINow> they said 40% more IPC than bulldozer[12:38:38] <WINow> not sure which.. xd never read the full article[12:38:50] <WINow> just saw the headlines[12:39:22] <WINow> well the Vega GPU will incorporate HBM2 and will come end of the year or sometimes in march 2017[12:39:36] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:40:30] <WINow> they wlll most likey have 3 versions : 8 core 16 core and 32 cores[12:40:43] <WINow> the zen[12:40:52] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[12:41:04] <WINow> wonder wat the price range will be...[12:41:09] *** CinnamonRickRoll <CinnamonRickRoll!~CinnamonR@ppp118-209-171-187.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net> has joined #manjaro[12:41:41] <peetaur2> I wish they'd make heterogeneous cpus... 2 full speed cores, and like 100 cheap slow ones...megacheap super performance[12:42:01] <WINow> xd[12:42:03] <peetaur2> the only reason we want fast cores is for stupid games that don't multithread[12:42:07] <peetaur2> so we only need 1 or 2[12:42:21] <WINow> yea but now games are half cpu and gup[12:42:27] <WINow> gpu*[12:42:28] <peetaur2> and fast cores are very inefficient....hot, power hungry, unstable if you clock them high[12:42:44] <peetaur2> they still suck at using multi-cpus[12:42:49] <peetaur2> they can be bottlenecked with what they're donig[12:42:54] <WINow> and multi -gpus xd[12:43:30] <WINow> but i saw a vid where the guy said he went from 4 cores to 6 cores for some i7 cpu i think and he gained better performance in that game[12:43:33] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:43:36] <WINow> i think it was starwars[12:43:45] <peetaur2> yeah some games[12:44:29] <peetaur2> but most are like skyrim... ai, and whatever passing the time is in one CPU pegged to 100% and bottlenecked, background loading of surrounding area is on 2nd cpu and only using like 15%, and the rest are idle[12:44:57] <peetaur2> skyrim runs fine though, and 100% is just a possibility but not necessarily what you see. But other games will go slow when they hit 100% there.[12:45:31] <WINow> all i want is to get a computer which will run very smooth at 60fps on the highest settings and can go higher with g-sync/freesync to maybe 75fps on 1440p[12:46:02] <WINow> ultrawide monitor[12:46:09] <Strit_Work> many games does not utilize multiple cores very well.[12:46:55] <WINow> http://pastebin.com/SUwEcPQn[12:46:55] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/MCWZwo] build - Pastebin.com[12:47:01] <WINow> check out my wish build[12:48:35] <WINow> wat u think? xd[12:48:36] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@spv69-2-78-193-241-101.fbxo.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[12:49:15] <peetaur2> motherboard is ASUS, home of the "install windows to fix your problem" dumbass solution to all linux problems[12:49:18] <Strit_Work> vexare: Kernel release version changed, but not the kernel it self.[12:49:24] <peetaur2> so blacklisted[12:49:54] <peetaur2> I find gigabyte is generally very good and durable, and asrock is also good feature and performance wise but not durability wise[12:49:55] <WINow> nah i just wrote that[12:50:11] *** CinnamonRickRoll <CinnamonRickRoll!~CinnamonR@ppp118-209-171-187.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:50:18] <WINow> just a very good motherboard which is AM4 compatible for Zen[12:50:34] <WINow> or maybe MSI board[12:51:01] <WINow> oh btw yea i will be using windows 7 on it xd[12:51:03] <peetaur2> and personally I don't care about ultra settings ... I find that you can get away with $120 gpus every few years instead of a $460 gpu that is as good as a $120 gpu 2 years later ;)[12:51:28] <peetaur2> but it's not easy to solve the expensive gpu problem... eg. playing 2 year old games on a $120 gpu doesn't work for everyone[12:51:35] <WINow> u want to play games at best quality![12:51:43] <peetaur2> I do not[12:52:02] <peetaur2> flashy graphics do not amuse me. 3d realism does, flashy explosions and whatever don't.[12:52:06] <WINow> well i will just try to get wats best and greatest till end of the year[12:52:12] *** pau <pau!~pau@105.58.13.77> has joined #manjaro[12:52:19] <WINow> and future proof as much as possible[12:52:28] <peetaur2> but you might get away with a cheaper gpu and then buy that one when it's $300[12:52:58] <WINow> the new 1060 will be 300[12:53:10] <WINow> for the 6gig version[12:53:37] <peetaur2> $30 for a mousepad you probably don't need at all, and 88 for a headset sound high[12:53:46] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:54:20] <WINow> one reviewer said its the best headset and most comfortable[12:54:27] <peetaur2> also your monitor choice is insanely expensive, but that's what you have to pay for such a large one[12:54:28] <WINow> and u can wear it for hours and hours[12:54:35] <WINow> yea[12:54:41] <WINow> ultrawide or nothing xd[12:55:26] <peetaur2> and with such a large monitor, maybe you are also forced to have such an exensive gpu...not sure[12:55:30] <WINow> good for muti-tasking[12:55:42] <peetaur2> for multi-tasking, multiple monitors works fine too[12:55:51] <WINow> we will see if vega is good[12:56:03] <WINow> yea but then taht bezel between screens.. xd[12:57:03] <WINow> that mousepad for keyboard and mouse xd[13:00:21] *** pau <pau!~pau@105.58.13.77> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:01:00] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kotqlriesjxbggvu> has joined #manjaro[13:01:58] *** sgm <sgm!~sgm@78.96.149.39> has joined #manjaro[13:02:18] *** WINow <WINow!a8a75e54@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.168.167.94.84> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[13:02:47] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:04:19] *** pau <pau!~pau@105.58.13.77> has joined #manjaro[13:06:56] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[13:06:58] *** sgm <sgm!~sgm@78.96.149.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[13:08:01] *** sgm <sgm!~sgm@78.96.149.39> has joined #manjaro[13:14:13] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:14:14] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@86.108.105.78> has joined #manjaro[13:15:40] *** pau <pau!~pau@105.58.13.77> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[13:18:15] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[13:19:46] <sgm> is there no net installer for the dev builds?[13:19:51] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:23:43] <Strit_Work> sgm: doesn't seem like it.[13:24:22] <sgm> I have some trouble with the 16.06 net installer, trying to install from an usb to another usb drive. 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i just joined in[14:38:31] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: exit (xchat 2.4.5 или старше))[14:40:29] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[14:41:51] <Nishikino-Maki> i testing analog TV cable... but idk why when cable close to floor TV-noise will become more but if lift the cable signal will be better(a little bit)[14:42:42] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has joined #manjaro[14:43:08] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[14:43:54] *** LyrixCa <LyrixCa!~LyriCa@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:44:51] <peetaur2> Nishikino-Maki: and what if you hold it but don't lift it?[14:45:00] <peetaur2> often holding a cable changes the signal like that[14:45:22] <badbodh> use co-axial cables, if you;re using one - it's fake[14:46:34] <peetaur2> and if you hold it plus a ground (like a radiator, computer case, metal pipes) then it's better again[14:49:45] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:50:01] <Nishikino-Maki> and also when RF-Modulator too Close to TV signal Image quality will be very poor but when i put RF-Modulator a little farther away will be better[14:50:11] *** chshbh <chshbh!~Avinash@146.196.33.210> has joined #manjaro[14:52:20] *** SuperSteve <SuperSteve!~steve@124-171-73-172.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:54:17] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[14:56:06] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.119.101> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[14:56:22] *** br1s <br1s!~eino@mobile-access-5d6af8-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[14:57:23] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[14:57:28] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[14:57:50] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:58:16] <br1s> hello people! I decided to hop the wagon from Debian to Manjaro, but am struggling with my Windows dual boot desktop-PC partitioning. I have the following setup at the moment: http://imgur.com/0D5m34k but it doesn't let me click the 'Forward'-button. I also can not figure out how to set the 'bootable' flag for the /dev/sdb3. Changing the previously menitoned partitions mount point to /boot/efi does not help[14:58:16] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/ryKESM] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[14:58:22] <br1s> either. What should I do?[15:00:26] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has joined #manjaro[15:01:29] <Strit_Work> br1s: It says you are missing the define a partition as /boot/efi.[15:01:48] <peetaur2> br1s: parted /dev/sdb set 3 boot on[15:02:09] <Strit_Work> I believe that would be your /dev/sdb1 looking from the screen shot.[15:02:14] <Nishikino-Maki> good job Fedex... [Glass products → Fedex → Broken glass][15:04:11] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:05:16] <br1s> that /dev/sdb1 is the windows boot partition and as I said, Strit_Work, for some reason if I change the mount point to /boot/efi, it still does not work[15:05:35] <br1s> as I said, I have only installed Debians all my life and am only familiar with it's partition scheme[15:05:38] <br1s> its*[15:06:28] <Strit_Work> It should work. And yes, you need to use the windows boot partition, since you won't be able to boot either Windows or Manjaro if you don't use that. It looks like you are booting with UEFI.[15:08:19] <br1s> I previously had this exactly same setup with Debian, as I understood that one should have the windows boot partition and a linux boot partition, I had them both[15:08:30] <br1s> and just had set the boot flag to the /boot partition, which contained grub2[15:08:33] *** ace139 <ace139!~Soumyo@14.139.221.18> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:09:06] <Strit_Work> First off. Are you booting with UEFI or BIOS?[15:09:33] <br1s> I am not sure. should I boot into BIOS and check the options?[15:09:53] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[15:09:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[15:09:57] <br1s> the mobo is from 2015 so it's fairly new, dunno if it has significance[15:10:10] <Strit_Work> Thus clearly thinks UEFI, which is why it's not letting you forward, until you choose a /boot/efi mount point.[15:10:33] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@5.223.169.62> has joined #manjaro[15:10:34] <br1s> how come that Debian setup worked with the /boot partition then?[15:11:01] <br1s> I am not trying to annoy you guys, I just suck at reading official websites about the topic, I have a hard time understanding them ^^'[15:11:35] <Strit_Work> No idea. I have never used Debian.[15:13:11] *** Guest16592 <Guest16592!~manjaro-k@5.220.55.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:13:56] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[15:14:29] <br1s> I still can't press Forward with http://imgur.com/o27JhRI[15:14:31] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/rGpl6x] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[15:14:34] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:14:38] <br1s> should I try the other gui installer?[15:15:02] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[15:15:23] <Strit_Work> No. Your /boot/efi partitioin needs to vfat/fat32 filesystem. Not ext2.[15:16:15] <br1s> ah okay, that was the problem! now it works, awesome! thanks Strit_Work ! :)[15:16:18] <Strit_Work> Not sure if it can be ntfs, but I know that fat32 works.[15:17:03] <Strit_Work> np[15:18:40] *** Strit_Work <Strit_Work!c3f9898b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.195.249.137.139> has left #manjaro[15:18:54] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:19:05] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[15:19:20] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #manjaro[15:21:38] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@pool-74-101-105-224.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[15:21:55] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@pool-74-101-105-224.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:22:50] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:22:58] *** Troupal 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<mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.47> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:12:37] <br1s> agh, I still have to come to your aid, been browsing arch linux grub article for a good 30minutes now with no success.. I added a custom grub entry for Windows 10 and it has this 'ntldr' but despite my efforts it only says 'error: cant find module ntldr' although I have ntfs-3f-fuse installed. any ideas what the problem is here?[18:15:39] <bugzbunny> br1s: Chain boot doesn't work? Grub would not use the userspace linux module ntfs-3g[18:16:10] *** IamRight <IamRight!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:16:12] <bugzbunny> Btw, uh, is Windows 10 located on the same disk, or a disk that is connected, that grub-update can find?[18:16:36] <br1s> it's on a different disk, the boot disk has GPT and the different disk MBR[18:16:42] <br1s> also this different disk has manjaro also[18:16:50] *** IamRight <IamRight!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[18:16:53] <br1s> I read that the chain boot is deprecated from the wiki[18:17:14] *** IamRight <IamRight!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[18:17:16] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@pool-71-190-244-207.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:17:47] *** IamRight <IamRight!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[18:18:46] <bugzbunny> K, but is the different disk with windows 10 connected, ie, will it show up with lsblk[18:19:11] <bugzbunny> The different disk, the one with mbr, has Manjaro and Windows 10?[18:19:28] <br1s> yup, and it shows up with lsblk[18:19:37] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[18:19:42] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:19:48] *** Herve83 <Herve83!~manjaro-k@73.202.154.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[18:19:51] <bugzbunny> You've tried 'grub-update' already?[18:20:02] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[18:20:02] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:20:02] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[18:20:14] <br1s> just having "set root='(hd1,msdos1)'\nchainloader +1" produces error "Booting a command list\n\n error: invalid EFI file path"[18:20:17] <br1s> yup[18:20:30] <bugzbunny> Then again, I have a UEFI based system, phew... It's been a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGG time since I used Grub[18:21:36] <br1s> it seems that every guide has a different solution to the issue[18:21:48] <bugzbunny> What version of Grub are you using, legacy 1.x? or Grub 2.x?[18:21:49] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[18:21:49] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:21:54] <br1s> 2.x[18:22:08] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[18:22:43] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:22:48] *** MrMovl <MrMovl!~0@p5DE9D262.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:22:51] <bugzbunny> Well, here, it's configured to use chainloader[18:23:10] <bugzbunny> Assuming Windows 10 wrote it's EFI file in /boot/EFI[18:23:50] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[18:24:08] *** Tintle <Tintle!~Tintle@unaffiliated/tintle> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:24:08] *** Tintle <Tintle!~Tintle@vps.neomahler.space> has joined #manjaro[18:24:31] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[18:24:34] <bugzbunny> br1s: Actually[18:24:49] <bugzbunny> br1s: It's grub-mkconfig[18:25:08] <bugzbunny> Run, grub-mkconfig and check the output to see if it found Windows 10[18:25:13] <br1s> it seems that in windows 8 it is located in /efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi, but this gives an error "file blabla not found"[18:25:17] <br1s> allright[18:25:34] <br1s> I also had search [..] --set=root [UUID][18:25:59] <bugzbunny> k, well, I'll wait for your response[18:26:22] <br1s> that seemed to execute nicely[18:26:32] <bugzbunny> Look for the line, ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###[18:26:39] <bugzbunny> And see what it says[18:26:45] *** varaindemian <varaindemian!~octavian@86.122.108.10> has joined #manjaro[18:27:08] <bugzbunny> Keep in mind, it hasn't modified /boot/grub/grub.cfg[18:27:11] <br1s> its empty[18:27:20] <br1s> does the windows partition need to be mounted?[18:27:43] <br1s> or rather the windows boot manager partition[18:27:50] <br1s> didnt have an effect either way[18:28:09] <varaindemian> [FAILED] Failed to start Light Display Manager. See 'systemctl status lightdm.service'for details[18:28:11] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[18:28:22] <varaindemian> On a fujitsu laptop[18:28:31] <varaindemian> I cannot start the live cd[18:29:38] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[18:30:10] <bugzbunny> br1s: Here's an example output of grub-mkconfig os_prober, http://pastie.org/10901276[18:30:10] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/h7quy6] #10901276 - Pastie[18:31:29] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2.187.147.216> has joined #manjaro[18:31:39] <br1s> bugzbunny: is that windows 10?[18:32:15] <manjaro-kde5__> hi[18:32:16] <bugzbunny> br1s: Here's where the firmware is /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Bootbootmgfw.efi for my Windows Boot Manager[18:32:31] <bugzbunny> br1s: I have Windows 10 and a broken Windows 7[18:32:39] <manjaro-kde5__> why my system monitor don't show the cpu?[18:32:49] <manjaro-kde5__> I mean cpu working[18:32:51] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:33:14] <bugzbunny> If you no firmware there[18:33:37] <bugzbunny> You might have to do a Windows Boot Recovery operation[18:34:15] <manjaro-kde5__> ksysguard[18:34:20] <manjaro-kde5__> I use that[18:34:27] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:35:27] <varaindemian> Can someone help me out?[18:36:07] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: Did you do what the error suggested?[18:36:10] <br1s> bugzbunny: my bios shows "Windows Boot Manager" but clicking it only makes the computer jump back into bios[18:36:46] <bugzbunny> br1s: Yeah, more than likely, you have a broken boot for Windows[18:36:48] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: I cannot even boot[18:36:54] <varaindemian> I am stuck with that error[18:37:04] <varaindemian> I tried to change the res of the screen[18:37:12] <br1s> bugzbunny: I find that difficult to believe since I have not touched the windows partition at all[18:37:14] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: uh? The computer booted, it just didn't finish booting[18:37:23] <varaindemian> yes. I[18:37:28] <varaindemian> I am trying to install manjaro[18:37:32] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: You _can_ still switch to another terminal, login, and run that command[18:37:50] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: To _switch_ to another terminal, hold down, ctrl+alt+f2[18:38:25] <bugzbunny> If you know the root password, you can login as root, if not. Login as your regular user and run sudo systemctl status lightdm[18:39:14] <bugzbunny> br1s: More than likely, you borked the Windows Boot Manager... Just grab a Windows 10 install CD and run the Boot Recover/Restoration[18:39:35] <br1s> bugzbunny: allright, thanks, I'll give that a go :)[18:39:43] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: So, you getting this error from the install CD?[18:40:35] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@h43n13-lid-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:40:56] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2.187.147.216> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:41:23] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@h43n13-lid-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[18:41:44] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[18:42:39] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!58d9b5a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.217.181.162> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:42:58] *** silli <silli!~silli@host238-14-static.223-195-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:43:55] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I install Hexchat themes?[18:44:38] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:44:50] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: yes[18:44:53] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[18:44:53] <varaindemian> from the install cd[18:45:10] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@host86-182-74-178.range86-182.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:45:36] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: This a USB or a CD?[18:45:40] <br1s> bugzbunny: I ran the mbr fixer and now neither windows nor grub boot[18:45:45] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: Did you verify the CD?[18:45:50] <Strit_Laptop> hexchat themes?? Isn't it just changing the settings in hexchat? I don't see a theme manager anywhere[18:46:02] <bugzbunny> No, you can get themes for Hexchat[18:46:03] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@2a02:c7d:8e16:6200:e583:ad34:199:1567> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:46:21] <bugzbunny> I don't know off hand where to place the theme file[18:48:30] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: usb[18:48:33] <bugzbunny> https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/appearance.html#theme-files[18:48:34] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/PI8sv9] Appearance — HexChat 2.12.0 documentation[18:48:56] <bugzbunny> Example, unzip ~/Downloads/monokai.hct -d ~/.config/hexchat[18:49:16] <br1s> bugzbunny: should I just reinstall windows and manjaro with GPT on both HDDs?[18:49:24] <br1s> it seems that this MBR might be messing things up[18:49:27] <bugzbunny> br1s: mbr fixer? from where?[18:49:45] <br1s> from the windows 10 usb stick[18:49:56] <bugzbunny> Yeah, that would better idea I think, EFI to work, the disk must be GPT, the boot partition FAT[18:50:04] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: the usb is fine[18:50:14] <br1s> hmm maybe ill do that now[18:50:16] <bugzbunny> I would install Windows first[18:50:26] <br1s> yeah[18:50:37] <br1s> will it create GPT partition table?[18:50:39] <bugzbunny> Then Manjaro and everything should just work[18:50:54] <br1s> or should I go with manjaro live usb and do partitioning there beforehand[18:50:58] <bugzbunny> br1s: By default, if Windows detects UEFI, it will default to GPT[18:51:14] <bugzbunny> Will create the boot partition as well[18:51:52] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: How did you transfer the ISO to USB, with dd?[18:51:57] *** hecsa <hecsa!~hecsa@190.192.133.35> has joined #manjaro[18:52:10] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[18:52:10] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:52:10] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[18:52:32] *** j3rzu <j3rzu!~manjaro-k@2.218.249.202> has joined #manjaro[18:52:37] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-13107.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:52:38] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: m.imgur.com/VQEjeud,b53vDQT[18:53:34] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: dvd is absolutely fine. I installed from it on other computer[18:53:40] <varaindemian> usb*[18:53:54] *** anonkunt <anonkunt!~ananke@unaffiliated/anonkun> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:54:43] <bugzbunny> That doesn't say much, look at /var/log/messages[18:54:51] <bugzbunny> What video card do you have?[18:55:14] <bugzbunny> That laptop doesn't have those Intel/Nvidia hybrid combinations??[18:56:04] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:56:11] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: sis 671[18:56:16] <varaindemian> nope[18:56:22] <Strit_Laptop> intel/amd are worse. At least intel/nvidia can work with optirun.[18:56:25] <varaindemian> it's an oldish one[18:56:46] <varaindemian> Esprimo Mobile V5535[18:57:22] <bugzbunny> Hmm, Esprimo? never heard of that[18:58:12] <bugzbunny> Ahh, find it[18:58:20] <bugzbunny> Does Manjaro support SiS Mirage 3+ Graphics[18:58:35] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@188.0.131.2> has joined #manjaro[18:58:39] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has left #manjaro[18:58:46] <bugzbunny> I would look at the logs, it more than likely, have more information[18:59:21] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:59:51] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2.187.147.216> has joined #manjaro[19:00:18] <bugzbunny> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=88191[19:00:18] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/g7MvdI] SiS Mirage 3 671/771 - Can't make it work on Arch64... / Applications & Desktop Environments / Arch Linux Forums[19:00:31] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: I have nothing /var/log/messages[19:00:34] <bugzbunny> The current xorg-server 1.7 is not compatible with the SIS 671 driver[19:00:38] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2.187.147.216> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:01:25] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[19:01:30] <varaindemian> so it won't work :([19:01:34] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2a02:8108:bc0:1010:1e87:2cff:fe77:bc8b> has joined #manjaro[19:01:41] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@abgk133.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[19:01:49] <bugzbunny> There is this http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34256[19:01:50] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/6UVoro] (link was unresponsive: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34256)[19:01:50] <Strit_Laptop> yeah, seems like downgrading to xorg-server 1.6 would work.[19:01:50] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@188.0.131.2> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:01:53] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!58d9b5a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.217.181.162> has joined #manjaro[19:01:55] <manjaro-kde5__> hi i need help with manjaro 15[19:02:10] <Strit_Laptop> bugzbunny, that package doe snot exist anymore[19:02:16] <bugzbunny> damn[19:02:51] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llcuxvrxlemovyfv> has joined #manjaro[19:03:53] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: on *ubuntu there is this workaround http://axebase.net/blog/2014/08/23/sis-671-in-lubuntu-14-04xorg-1-15/[19:03:55] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/rWvvkj] SiS 671 in Lubuntu 16.04/xorg 1.18 und 15.10/xorg 1.17 : axebase.net[19:04:16] <varaindemian> Hard to belive it can't be made to work on manjaro/arch[19:04:49] <manjaro-kde5__> is there a german support chan? or german speaking supporter here?[19:05:25] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[19:06:43] <manjaro-kde5__> hello?[19:06:48] <Strit_Laptop> manjaro-kde5__, #manjaro-de[19:06:53] <manjaro-kde5__> ty[19:07:38] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: It's not it can't work, it would require a lot of steps[19:08:11] <bugzbunny> You can install Manjaro via cli installer, then follow nebhan instructions[19:08:31] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:08:31] <bugzbunny> It should a least boot via VESA[19:09:03] <bugzbunny> That problem, with empty /var/log/messages, then probably journalctl[19:09:25] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: someof the links are broken[19:09:25] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vcpyopxrvdfhkmxs> has joined #manjaro[19:09:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[19:10:26] <bugzbunny> You can probably disable Kernel Modeset, via Grub, hit e, then enter nomodeset and press enter... See if you can get a display... Or perhaps, I believe there is a framebuffer kernel option, to force it to boot via vesa[19:11:06] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@216.4.56.145> has joined #manjaro[19:11:44] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[19:12:50] <bugzbunny> You can try, nomodeset xforcevesa[19:17:56] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[19:18:22] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@216.4.56.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[19:21:50] *** Deepin1603 <Deepin1603!~Manjarous@95.111.66.140> has joined #manjaro[19:22:12] *** Deepin1603 <Deepin1603!~Manjarous@95.111.66.140> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:22:55] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: mantra__)[19:24:28] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@209-193-109-18.mammothnetworks.com> has joined #manjaro[19:24:55] <Batch> varaindemian you have agp module enabled?[19:25:02] <Batch> or hook[19:25:06] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.186> has joined #manjaro[19:25:09] <Batch> forgot what agp uses[19:25:12] *** varaindemian <varaindemian!~octavian@86.122.108.10> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:26:13] *** NEWBI3 <NEWBI3!~Thunderbi@2604:2000:9883:3500::8> has joined #manjaro[19:27:32] *** trace <trace!~trace@2604:2000:9883:3500::8> has joined #manjaro[19:27:36] *** trace is now known as Guest38627[19:28:15] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:28:18] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[19:29:07] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@209-193-109-18.mammothnetworks.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:32:51] *** varaindemian <varaindemian!~octavian@86.122.108.10> has joined #manjaro[19:33:01] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: sorry I lost internet connection[19:33:42] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: did you mean entering these options in the Boot Options section on the live cd?[19:34:32] <varaindemian> what was last one you mentioned? nomodset force vesa?[19:34:37] <bugzbunny> Yeah, select 'Free', hit e, enter those options, than press enter[19:36:19] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:36:46] <mike-zal> has someone here experience with linux-pf kernel?[19:37:25] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.251> has joined #manjaro[19:38:48] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[19:40:24] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: Select 'Free'?[19:42:31] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:42:32] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-79-209.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:42:35] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@94.10.95.44> has joined #manjaro[19:44:51] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: I believe it's the first option on the Grub menu[19:44:58] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p508184E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:45:54] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@2a02:8108:bc0:1010:1e87:2cff:fe77:bc8b> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:46:29] <varaindemian> bugzbunny: I can only see this https://1969324071.rsc.cdn77.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Manjaro_Start.png[19:46:30] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/X2AYar] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[19:47:52] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.186> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[19:48:17] <bugzbunny> varaindemian: This is Manjaro 15.05? Anyway, hit e, then enter those options[19:49:30] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@186.82.70.156> has joined #manjaro[19:49:30] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as hoagies[19:49:58] <varaindemian> this is latest manjaro jwm edition[19:50:32] <varaindemian> if I press e I get e typed in the Boot Options section below[19:51:26] <varaindemian> I tried nomodeset xforcevesa and I got the same thing[19:52:40] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[19:55:25] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:57:22] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@94.10.95.44> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[19:57:33] *** wtiger <wtiger!~AndChat11@unaffiliated/wtiger> has joined #manjaro[19:57:45] <wtiger> Hi[19:58:44] <wtiger> I'm not able to connect to a wifi network which I was able to connect with earlier[19:58:53] <wtiger> I'm using manjaro kde[19:58:55] *** Guest38627 <Guest38627!~trace@2604:2000:9883:3500::8> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:59:37] <wtiger> The whole process gets stuck at *setting network address*[19:59:48] <wtiger> How do I troubleshoot?[20:01:18] *** varaindemian <varaindemian!~octavian@86.122.108.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[20:01:36] *** MrMovl <MrMovl!~0@p5DE9D262.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:02:33] <wtiger> Another error is 'up configuration was unavailable'[20:02:39] <wtiger> *ip[20:02:48] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:04:02] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[20:04:21] *** NEWBI3 <NEWBI3!~Thunderbi@2604:2000:9883:3500::8> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:06:06] *** not_dommot <not_dommot!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[20:08:31] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[20:08:49] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:08:58] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:09:40] *** j3rzu <j3rzu!~manjaro-k@2.218.249.202> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:12:20] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@ti0050a400-0462.bb.online.no> has joined #manjaro[20:15:14] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.35> has joined #manjaro[20:16:00] *** not_dommot <not_dommot!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:16:23] *** not_dommot <not_dommot!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[20:20:45] *** br1s <br1s!~eino@mobile-access-5d6af8-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:20:57] *** br1s <br1s!~eino@mobile-access-5d6af8-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[20:24:51] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[20:24:57] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:155a:5::1002> has joined #manjaro[20:25:17] *** Herve83 <Herve83!~manjaro-k@73.202.154.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:26:04] *** Herve83 <Herve83!~manjaro-k@73.202.154.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[20:26:33] *** br1s <br1s!~eino@mobile-access-5d6af8-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[20:28:20] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:29:32] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[20:36:46] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.248> has joined #manjaro[20:38:14] *** wtiger <wtiger!~AndChat11@unaffiliated/wtiger> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[20:39:07] <PMunch> Thanks mtn for yesterday, really saved my bacon[20:39:32] <mtn> PMunch: welcome. glad I could help[20:39:58] <PMunch> I didn't even realize that I didn't have pulseaudio on this machine[20:40:13] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[20:41:01] <mtn> PMunch: sure is a useful tool, isn't it?[20:42:04] <PMunch> Yup[20:42:24] <PMunch> Have it on my desktop, so just assumed I had it here as well :P[20:42:52] *** Vlado9A_ <Vlado9A_!~Vlado9A@cpe-188-129-110-117.dynamic.amis.hr> has joined #manjaro[20:44:47] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!58d9b5a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.217.181.162> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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Been meaning to thank you.[21:41:46] <mike-zal> mtn: tried to kompile kernel but failed: it lasted nearly 2 hours and then lack of place error. do you have any idea what it is about?[21:42:40] <lixa> What I mean connecting ipod and switching songs from it[21:44:08] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@2a01:e34:efb6:2030:15e8:8064:ccdf:c6dc> has joined #manjaro[21:44:18] <manjaroDeepin160> hello how to format an usb ? please[21:45:33] <mtn> lixa: yw[21:45:58] <lixa> manjaroDeepin160: suse studio image writer. Probably already on the system[21:46:00] <mtn> mike-zal: I quit compiling kernels over 15 years ago.[21:46:25] <lixa> nvm I'm wrong[21:46:47] <mtn> manjaroDeepin160: or use gparted, disks, dd, etc.[21:46:50] <lixa> GParted would probaby work[21:47:25] *** jonathon <jonathon!~jonathonf@unaffiliated/jonathon> has joined #manjaro[21:47:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v jonathon[21:47:49] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80.240.62.127> has joined #manjaro[21:47:49] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@abgk133.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:48:06] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.35> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:48:17] *** lixa <lixa!~lixa@unaffiliated/lixa> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[21:48:21] <manjaroDeepin160> lixa[21:48:41] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@2a01:e34:efb6:2030:15e8:8064:ccdf:c6dc> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:48:47] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80.240.62.127> has left 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