July 6, 2016 
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July 6, 2016 [00:02:10] *** shuman <shuman!~shuman@d156-119.icpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:03:14] *** Delviax13 <Delviax13!~delvia@ool-44c16817.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:03:32] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891837.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:05:36] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:12:29] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:16:08] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-118-229.as43234.net> has joined #manjaro[00:16:21] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@123.246.89.79.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[00:18:37] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@123.246.89.79.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:18:56] *** rigolo <rigolo!~manjaro-k@37.77.120.117> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:19:01] *** simbad <simbad!~manjaro-k@123.246.89.79.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[00:21:16] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-3-60.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[00:21:19] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@host235-136-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[00:26:14] *** simbad <simbad!~manjaro-k@123.246.89.79.rev.sfr.net> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[00:27:39] *** dr`venom <dr`venom!~manjaro-k@cpe-23-240-253-20.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:31:21] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #manjaro[00:33:52] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-118-229.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:37:04] *** tryingKDE <tryingKDE!~work@41.82.143.86> has joined #manjaro[00:38:50] *** TSpark <TSpark!~TSpark@wsip-174-77-40-47.oc.oc.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[00:40:14] <tryingKDE> Hellooo ---- anyone knows about the bomi video player? bomi-player.github.io/gallery.html[00:42:20] *** Pablo__ <Pablo__!~Pablo@201.86.1.221.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:43:21] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-118-229.as43234.net> has joined #manjaro[00:44:31] *** tryingKDE <tryingKDE!~work@41.82.143.86> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:46:54] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@host235-136-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:48:14] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:49:33] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[01:01:03] *** Nyanloutre <Nyanloutre!~paul@ens68-2-78-242-180-212.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:01:50] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has quit IRC (Quit: No, no, no. Go past this. Pass this part. In fact, never play this again.)[01:02:57] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[01:04:41] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:05:19] *** Manjaro-kde5-Lwr <Manjaro-kde5-Lwr!~manjaro-k@200.122.243.32> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:08:03] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[01:10:21] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-118-229.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:10:53] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has joined #manjaro[01:11:21] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@ti0050a400-0462.bb.online.no> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[01:13:47] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[01:14:23] *** tefter <tefter!~bmaxa@178-223-189-78.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:16:25] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-119-20.as43234.net> has joined #manjaro[01:18:34] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has joined #manjaro[01:18:42] *** TSpark <TSpark!~TSpark@wsip-174-77-40-47.oc.oc.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[01:21:46] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-088-249.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:22:03] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-119-20.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:31:57] *** robin0800 <robin0800!31b7cf50@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[01:33:47] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p50818DED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:34:58] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.168.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:39:49] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[01:39:56] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-119-37.as43234.net> has joined #manjaro[01:50:54] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:51:35] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[01:54:52] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.12.176> has joined #manjaro[01:57:20] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-119-37.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[01:58:48] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:02:30] *** hitcoder <hitcoder!~hitcoder@host-2-96-105-210.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[02:02:39] <hitcoder> hi[02:02:51] <hitcoder> anyone know how to disable Sublime Text's fancy scrolling effect[02:02:59] <hitcoder> and prefferably all other effects too[02:06:16] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:08:51] *** lostson <lostson!~lostson@cpe-70-92-16-77.wi.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[02:10:49] <hitcoder> nvm[02:10:54] *** hitcoder <hitcoder!~hitcoder@host-2-96-105-210.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:15:12] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@172.98.67.95> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:15:38] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.12.176> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:16:03] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[02:20:32] *** Ace0r <Ace0r!~aceor@184.68.170.134> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:25:09] *** manots <manots!~computer@24-217-91-243.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:30:48] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has quit IRC (Quit: No, no, no, go past this. Past this part. In fact, never play this again.)[02:31:33] *** matty_ma1t <matty_ma1t!~matt@c-98-222-116-98.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[02:31:38] *** matty_ma1t is now known as sirdigby[02:32:01] *** sirdigby <sirdigby!~matt@c-98-222-116-98.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:33:23] *** lostson <lostson!~lostson@cpe-70-92-16-77.wi.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:36:57] *** newtomanjaro <newtomanjaro!ad2030f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.173.32.48.242> has joined #manjaro[02:37:12] <newtomanjaro> nice build[02:37:53] <newtomanjaro> this worked really nicely on my old laptop, good work on 06.01[02:38:15] *** hai <hai!~hai_bar@46.185.140.149> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:40:19] *** Ace0r <Ace0r!~aceor@184.68.170.134> has joined #manjaro[02:40:40] *** manawyrm <manawyrm!~manawyrm@manawyrm.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:42:28] *** Sammy8806 <Sammy8806!~steven@irc.sammy8806.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:50:07] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@mctnnbsa45w-142177106076.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net> has joined #manjaro[02:51:00] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@mctnnbsa45w-142177106076.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:51:19] *** manawyrm <manawyrm!~manawyrm@manawyrm.de> has joined #manjaro[02:51:22] *** Sammy8806 <Sammy8806!~steven@irc.sammy8806.de> has joined #manjaro[02:57:07] <newtomanjaro> everyone is afk ofc[03:01:45] <ajfried22> no doing other things[03:07:11] *** edge226 <edge226!~quassel@unaffiliated/edge226> has joined #manjaro[03:12:34] *** newtomanjaro <newtomanjaro!ad2030f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.173.32.48.242> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[03:16:41] *** vash <vash!~vash@2601:546:c100:43e3::e0f2> has joined #manjaro[03:17:06] *** vash is now known as Guest31974[03:17:14] *** Guest31974 is now known as shickmo[03:19:16] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-119-70.as43234.net> has joined #manjaro[03:20:05] <shickmo> Evening all was runing into a little trouble trying to fire up steam on a newer install of 16.06 RC1 64bit xfce style. Here is the error I am receiving Running Steam on manjarolinux 16.06-rc1 64-bit http://pastebin.com/0XVb0DUJ[03:20:06] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/m26hmB] Running Steam on manjarolinux 16.06-rc1 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automat - Pastebin.com[03:20:07] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[03:20:21] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@pool-71-190-244-207.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[03:21:38] <shickmo> Running Steam on manjarolinux 16.06-rc1 64-bit[03:21:38] <shickmo> STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically[03:21:38] <shickmo> Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1465948400)[03:21:38] <shickmo> libGL error: unable to load driver: i965_dri.so[03:21:38] <shickmo> libGL error: driver pointer missing[03:21:39] <shickmo> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965[03:21:41] <shickmo> libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so[03:21:43] <shickmo> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast[03:26:12] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-119-70.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[03:30:33] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[03:32:11] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@user-36c5b4e.cable.mindspring.com> has joined #manjaro[03:32:45] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:155b:4::1003> has joined #manjaro[03:43:42] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[03:44:24] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@167.249.36.90> has joined #manjaro[03:46:32] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@167.249.36.90> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:51:57] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has joined #manjaro[03:59:33] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@d5.7b.39a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:01:36] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[04:02:59] <geek> what do I need to do to get kde 5.7 in manjaro right now? unstable repos?[04:03:49] <day|flip> nope. aur[04:04:27] <day|flip> other wise wait till arch get kde 5.7 in there stable. then about a hour to a day it will be in manjaro unstable[04:05:59] <day|flip> as of right now kde 5.7 is in arch testing not yet in arch stable[04:06:52] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@db.7b.39a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com> has joined #manjaro[04:07:09] <day|flip> but still. this still beat out most other linux distro. unless it ubuntu neon kde.[04:07:17] <geek> ah ok, so to install it from aur what I need to do? yaourt -S --noconfirm plasma-worspace-git? just that?[04:08:02] <day|flip> i don't see the point of needing it now. and risking the system. do you have a fall back de?[04:08:36] <geek> I am using gnome, I want to try this new kde[04:10:58] <day|flip> if you just want to test it. and your a huge kde guy. why not used Kaos linux. it kde/qt heavy[04:11:51] <day|flip> here the news from last month ... they seem faster then ubuntu neon https://kaosx.us/news/2016/kaos06/[04:11:52] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/yNrT4u] KaOS 2016.06[04:11:54] <ajfried22> ugh kde is too heavy xfce all the way[04:11:54] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[04:12:44] <bugzbunny> Like, Windows to Heavy, Linux all the way[04:12:47] <bugzbunny> fme[04:13:31] <day|flip> thing is. i think deepin de is heavier on ram. but that thanks to it stupid ram leak[04:13:37] <geek> ajfried22, I have 32GB ram, I can have 10 kde instances running at once...[04:13:39] <bugzbunny> When Chef Ramsay say, fuck me, I wonder if he lubricate his rectum[04:14:05] <ajfried22> geek, damn son[04:14:26] *** manjaro-web|6395 <manjaro-web|6395!4e33fa3c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.78.51.250.60> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[04:14:27] <day|flip> geek, if that the case. used kaos linux in VM. this way it less of a risk on you main system[04:15:20] <day|flip> geek, it not going be that hard to used. they too used pacman. it just not like a arch system[04:15:44] <geek> day|flip I have an updated manjaro iso, I can fallback easily[04:16:25] <day|flip> i still think it be less time wast just to vm kaos linux[04:16:54] <geek> nothing risk, it will only compile kde stuff[04:17:25] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@dslb-092-076-001-243.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[04:17:34] <day|flip> it just take a wee bit of time to compile vs downloading the binary that on a iso[04:18:34] <day|flip> unless you got some i7 6700k cpu[04:19:45] <geek> fx6300 amd[04:19:48] <geek> very weak[04:20:05] <geek> six cores[04:21:07] <day|flip> it still better then my cpu it old as hell but still doing good for me[04:21:32] <day|flip> CPU ~ Quad core AMD Phenom II X4 965[04:22:00] <geek> only a little better[04:22:39] <day|flip> im waiting on zen to come out. then i make a new computer[04:23:31] <day|flip> by that time. rx 480 will be ok to buy. and mesa and maybe just maybe amdgpu-pro is ready[04:25:17] <day|flip> and it will be my first efi mobo desktop i own... still don't know how well it going play nice[04:27:11] <day|flip> geek, one question... why you need 32gb of ram?[04:29:07] <geek> day|flip, no need, I just don't want to bother with ram usage[04:29:49] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[04:30:07] <day|flip> ahh. i thought you might be doing video editing or something. will with that much ram. you can run chromium base browser without running out too fast[04:31:01] <geek> I run chromium with lots of stuff, it takes sometimes 8GB ram[04:31:13] <day|flip> with vivaldi-snapshot. that im running ram stable from me even thought i only have 5 to 6 tab at a time. so im getting by just fine with 4gb[04:31:51] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[04:32:49] <day|flip> 1.5 gb of ram used right now. and running something mpv. just saying. 4gb is still very good to have.[04:34:57] <geek> never tried vivaldi, is it better than chrome?[04:35:06] <geek> I bet it's based on chrome source code[04:36:05] <day|flip> it base on chromium source code. tbh it the only browser i see they may be wroth having 4k monitor. beside that. chromium is still better[04:36:36] *** tobinski_ <tobinski_!~tobinski@p5DE0CC7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[04:40:06] *** 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Go past this. Pass this part. In fact, never play this again.)[07:36:28] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[07:37:15] *** varaindemian <varaindemian!~octavian@86.122.108.10> has joined #manjaro[07:37:52] <varaindemian> do you recommend using manjaro i3 edition?[07:43:50] <ajfried22> only if you are a minimalist[07:51:27] <jurislav> guys.. just installed mnjr kde on a thinkpad x250, but mic mute shortcut (Fn + F4) isn't working. it _did_ work on mnjr gnome, though..[07:51:40] <jurislav> any hints, pls?[07:55:01] <ajfried22> is fn key enabled?[07:55:19] <jurislav> ajfried22: yes. other shortcuts work normally[07:55:31] <jurislav> volume, brightness, etc..[07:56:32] <ajfried22> hmm strange, i have exp with kde only used for a week b4 going for xfce[07:58:34] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[08:00:02] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[08:00:37] <jurislav> :/[08:05:46] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p50818F4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[08:06:30] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p50818F4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:11:02] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[08:11:28] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:16:18] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[08:23:06] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[08:23:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[08:26:03] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:27:23] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #manjaro[08:28:00] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@46.185.140.149> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out)[08:28:47] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@46.185.140.149> has joined #manjaro[08:31:14] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@178.211.164.250> has joined #manjaro[08:34:41] *** ace139 <ace139!~ace139@123.63.8.246> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:39:43] <jurislav> anyone else? help with the mic mute...[08:39:57] <jurislav> guys.. just installed mnjr kde on a thinkpad x250, but mic mute shortcut (Fn + F4) isn't working. it _did_ work on mnjr gnome, though..[08:42:34] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has joined #manjaro[08:46:06] <Batch> jurislav: alsamixer -c 0 will pop you some slideswitches[08:47:15] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ldxyovqhlsuuaaxn> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[08:47:52] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:155b:4::1003> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[08:59:12] <jurislav> Batch: not sure what you mean. I can fiddle with the SW controls. just the keyboard shortcut isn't working[09:01:17] <Strit_Laptop> jurislav, is the keyboard layout the same?[09:03:00] <jurislav> what can possibly be different on Fn and F4..?[09:03:39] <jurislav> Fn is okay for sure (all other Fn shortcuts work) and F4 is okay as well, since F4 alone does what it's supposed to[09:06:37] *** ace139 <ace139!7b3f08f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.63.8.246> has joined #manjaro[09:06:52] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[09:07:23] <ace139> On booting manjaro, getting error plymouthd:could not start boot splash and then the screen goes black, any help ?[09:09:36] <ace139> also the error usb 3-1.2: device descriptor read/64, error -110[09:09:38] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[09:10:09] <tumbler> ace did you add Playmouth Hooks as wiki said[09:10:19] <tumbler> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Plymouth[09:10:20] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/iJKyVa] Plymouth - ArchWiki[09:11:05] <ace139> tumbler: it was working all fine, i installed the manjaro gnome yesterday and was working smooth until now.[09:11:57] <tumbler> try to check that setting[09:12:42] <ace139> tumbler: doing that right now. thanks for the help.[09:12:55] <tumbler> you are welcome[09:13:07] <tumbler> is it working now?[09:14:35] <ace139> tumbler: I need to figure out how will i boot into Manjaro, before making the changes.[09:15:26] <tumbler> you can use tty shell[09:15:38] <tumbler> type ctrl+alt+f1[09:16:00] <ace139> tumbler: okay, let me check.[09:16:16] *** ace139 <ace139!7b3f08f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.63.8.246> has quit IRC ()[09:16:54] <tumbler> complete the login and follow the step in the guide earlier posting[09:17:12] <tumbler> posted[09:18:51] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:22:51] *** ave139 <ave139!7b3f08f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.63.8.246> has joined #manjaro[09:23:33] *** 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this issues?will be most thankful.[10:31:17] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has joined #manjaro[10:36:55] <zero-ghost> how new is your computer?[10:38:48] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[10:41:40] <peetaur2> manjaro-web|6848: instead of restart, try this instead (replace eth0 with the name of the network device) ip l set down eth0; ip l set up eth0[10:41:54] <peetaur2> may also have to restart whatever assigns the ip... like network manager[10:46:46] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B20813E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[10:47:19] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:48:32] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[10:50:47] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:51:46] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has 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<Matumaros!3e9fed02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.159.237.2> has joined #manjaro[11:17:49] <Matumaros> Hello everyone, I just found out about Manjaro yesterday and I love it[11:21:01] *** markonan <markonan!3e9427a1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.148.39.161> has joined #manjaro[11:21:20] *** markonan <markonan!3e9427a1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.148.39.161> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:22:55] *** varaindemian <varaindemian!~octavian@86.122.108.10> has left #manjaro[11:24:10] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.186.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:25:42] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:25:52] <peetaur2> Matumaros: welcome to the club[11:26:03] <zero-ghost> Matumaros: welcome to the future :)[11:26:11] *** silli <silli!~silli@host238-14-static.223-195-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[11:27:28] *** manjaro-kde5 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ejected :/[11:33:03] <Matumaros> the first two DVD's didn't even boot and the third got stuck on the loading screen[11:33:33] <peetaur2> why not use usb sticks instead of dvd?[11:34:16] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:37:37] <Matumaros> Because I don't currently have one I could use and I have tons of DVD's which I'll probably never use for anything else anyway[11:38:00] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[11:43:09] *** michimuellae <michimuellae!~micha@94.134.236.240> has joined #manjaro[11:43:38] *** michimuellae <michimuellae!~micha@94.134.236.240> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:43:59] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:49:03] *** WINow <WINow!a8a75e54@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.168.167.94.84> has joined #manjaro[11:51:03] <WINow> yo[11:51:38] *** WINow 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<manjaro-web|2282!2959404d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.89.64.77> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[12:28:39] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@pool-71-190-244-207.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[12:33:06] *** hongliangsam <hongliangsam!~hongliang@unaffiliated/hongliangsam> has joined #manjaro[12:33:31] *** hongliangsam <hongliangsam!~hongliang@unaffiliated/hongliangsam> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:34:06] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[12:36:10] *** manjaro-web|3455 <manjaro-web|3455!7de363cf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.125.227.99.207> has joined #manjaro[12:36:40] *** techknight_ <techknight_!52b41c76@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.180.28.118> has joined #manjaro[12:36:48] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-3-60.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[12:37:14] <techknight_> Guys do you know if it is possible to have two workspaces opened at two different screens at the same time ?[12:39:20] *** manjaro-web|3455 <manjaro-web|3455!7de363cf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.125.227.99.207> has left #manjaro[12:42:01] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@spv69-2-78-193-241-101.fbxo.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[12:46:15] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[12:46:33] *** WINow <WINow!a8a75e54@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.168.167.94.84> has joined #manjaro[12:46:57] *** WINow <WINow!a8a75e54@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.168.167.94.84> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:47:34] <Lowl3v3l> techknight_, which DE are you using? in general it should be possible for two xservers to run in parallel, but that will most likely not be what you actually want^^[12:48:58] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.250.143.249> has joined #manjaro[12:49:06] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@unaffiliated/yaser-amiri/x-1936080> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:50:12] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[12:52:34] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@78-106-48-45.broadband.corbina.ru> has joined #manjaro[12:52:41] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@78-106-48-45.broadband.corbina.ru> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:53:29] <techknight_> Lowl3v3l: I am running the deepin community distro ;)[12:54:07] <techknight_> nah i don't hink two xservers are the solution to my situation beacuse it will be two heavy on the gpu[12:54:40] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[12:55:01] <Lowl3v3l> i dont know what you mean by "workspace" then.[12:55:44] <jurislav> okay, guys, strange thing here.. i mnjr kde here.. I switched the taskbar to activities-only (can't recall the name of the feature), but now I can't get it back. there is no main panel and no desktop background no. i've been through the settings back and forth, but can't find a way to switch it back[12:55:49] <peetaur2> techknight_: the gpu has to work proportional to how many pixels it renders and how complex the thing is to render. Rendering in 2 different programs on separate screens is (theoretically) no more work than rendering 1 program on separate screens.[12:56:20] <techknight_> aaarh[12:56:32] <peetaur2> jurislav: right click desktop, add panel, default panel[12:56:53] <peetaur2> and then maybe you'll have 2 taskbars and can delete one... or delete the old one first and do it again[12:56:59] <VoidFox> i think what he means is being able to switch workspaces independent on each display[12:57:31] <techknight_> you know it is possible to have multiple workspaces http://www.linuxinsider.com/article_images/2016/82994_990x535.jpg i just want to be able to have two workspaces opened at the same time on two different screens[12:57:33] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Z3r13H] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[12:57:43] <techknight_> VoidFox: THIS +1[12:57:53] <jurislav> peetaur2: can't right click desktop. it does nothing.[12:58:10] <peetaur2> jurislav: plasma 5?[12:58:16] <jurislav> yep[12:59:17] <jurislav> never seen anything like this :)[13:00:24] <VoidFox> techknight_: might have to look into your wm if its possible at all.. no idea what deepin uses[13:00:47] <VoidFox> never tried it, but with the compiz I'm using atm i think ive seen hints it might work[13:00:48] *** Avengence <Avengence!~avengence@94.142.238.108> has joined #manjaro[13:02:03] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[13:02:38] <VoidFox> http://i.imgur.com/Yldn8aK.png[13:02:38] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/gKU1cL] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[13:03:52] <techknight_> VoidFox: i think it is Metacity if I remember correct[13:04:08] <Avengence> I've noticed a peculiar problem with the Enlightenment edition of Manjaro; it boots to a black screen and I have to press ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X, then Xorg and sddm restart and I get a login screen[13:04:11] <zero-ghost> i doubt whatever workspacer switcher you use, is made for multi monitor[13:04:57] <jurislav> okay, so it was a bug..[13:05:02] <Avengence> I do not have this problem with the other editions I've tried, only the Enlightenment edition. I first thought it was some issue with running in virtualbox but have installed on one machine and see the same issue of real hardware[13:05:04] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[13:05:08] <jurislav> restart X and everything's fine[13:05:57] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.186.194> has joined #manjaro[13:08:40] <Avengence> so something is wrong in startup that causes X to start without sddm the first time, but no idea where to start looking for the cause given systemd. suggestions?[13:09:50] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has joined #manjaro[13:10:08] *** Akeno <Akeno!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[13:14:18] *** techknight_ <techknight_!52b41c76@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.180.28.118> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[13:20:24] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.12.171> has joined #manjaro[13:24:50] *** chshbh <chshbh!~Avinash@146.196.35.132> has joined #manjaro[13:32:44] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[13:42:23] *** mckittrick <mckittrick!~mckittric@dslb-188-110-228-108.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[13:42:39] <mckittrick> hello[13:42:44] <mckittrick> how are you guys[13:45:43] <ajfried22> hi[13:49:36] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.12.171> has left #manjaro[13:49:55] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.186.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:50:36] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[13:51:24] <mckittrick> how are you[13:52:19] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@spv69-2-78-193-241-101.fbxo.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:54:08] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:55:57] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[13:56:11] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #manjaro[13:57:19] <ajfried22> awesome[14:00:53] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: mmh mmh bang bang boom boom pop pop)[14:01:00] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has quit IRC (Quit: Quite)[14:04:27] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.186.194> has joined #manjaro[14:05:19] <mckittrick> cool[14:05:22] <mckittrick> where are you from[14:05:42] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p50818F4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[14:09:14] <ajfried22> usa[14:09:20] <mckittrick> i see[14:10:24] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[14:10:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Lukimya[14:10:29] <mckittrick> do you have any suggestions for a cheap tv pc[14:10:57] <zero-ghost> manjaro xfce on a NUC[14:11:26] <mckittrick> intel nuc is too expensive i do not have the money for that[14:11:40] <zero-ghost> that was the cheap suggestion...[14:13:31] <ajfried22> buy a chromebook and put manjaro on it[14:13:34] <mckittrick> maybe some others have good ideas too[14:14:22] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@pool-71-190-244-207.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has left #manjaro ("taking some time to reflect")[14:14:25] <VoidFox> raspberry pi.. but u´ll end up paying about 100-200€ for it.. not as cheap as it seems[14:16:14] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has joined #manjaro[14:16:45] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[14:19:18] *** zjaro <zjaro!~zjaro@88.244.198.182> has joined #manjaro[14:26:06] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@206.132.109.74> has joined #manjaro[14:26:39] <manjaro-kde5> asd[14:26:41] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@63-153-1-204.blng.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[14:27:14] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@206.132.109.74> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:28:02] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@206.132.109.74> has joined #manjaro[14:28:02] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as D3mian[14:28:40] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #manjaro[14:29:24] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:29:51] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@97-121-227-114.blng.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:30:05] *** newmanj <newmanj!ad2030f2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.32.48.242> has joined #manjaro[14:30:12] <newmanj> hello?[14:31:35] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@63-153-1-2.blng.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[14:31:53] <newmanj> i just installed 16.06.1 - everything was going great, then I opened up oktopi (the pacman front end right?) - I selected 1 or 2 packages to upgrade, and now my system is broken, can't even get to a login screen... doesn't it auto fill dependencies?[14:33:08] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[14:33:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[14:33:13] <newmanj> octopi (sp?) you know what i'm talking about right?[14:34:08] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@63-153-1-204.blng.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:36:32] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!~wmedrano@2601:647:4601:ea84:105c:e568:fb76:648f> has joined #manjaro[14:36:47] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[14:37:06] <newmanj> is anyone here?[14:38:37] <mparillo> Sorry, I have used octopi to install packages and to upgrade my entire system, but I have no experience using it to upgrade specific packages.[14:39:33] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:39:58] <shuman> newmanj: more than one ;)[14:39:59] <jurislav> newmanj: why would you want to upgrade just 1 or 2 packages..? just curious..[14:40:26] <newmanj> does it make sense that you can break your system just by upgrade a specifc package? i was hoping it would pull in dependencies[14:40:36] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[14:42:03] <newmanj> i didn't want to do all, I just wanted a few specific ones... i did the updated flash, the updated firefox, and the kdebase - after a fresh install of 16.06.01, that will break your system[14:42:27] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@74.100.37.250> has joined #manjaro[14:42:52] <newmanj> anyway, if I could get to a bash prompt, I think I could use pacman to undo those...[14:43:01] <newmanj> but i can't even get to bash :([14:43:03] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:43:10] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.113.52.224> has joined #manjaro[14:43:26] <jurislav> well, you can chroot from live usb, but i'd say it's easier to just reinstall[14:43:45] <newmanj> yeah, thats an idea[14:43:59] <newmanj> thanks - i hate to reinstall, it feels like giving up[14:46:46] <newmanj> anyway, can someone please just answer this simple question - does octopi auto-install dependencies also, or does it blindly just do the single requested package? - i don't know what pacman switches it uses[14:47:26] <newmanj> ((and FWIW, it doesn't seem to give you visibility or details))[14:48:21] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~manjaro@217.147.18.170> has joined #manjaro[14:48:21] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~manjaro@217.147.18.170> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:50:08] <peetaur2> newmanj: as far as I know, octopi just wraps (pacman, yaourt, or pacaur) and all of those will pull deps automatically.[14:50:25] <Nishikino-Maki> hi i'm OrangePi PC user there's question OrangePI PC will auto-start [X11vnc][14:50:25] <Nishikino-Maki> but [X11vnc] when i closed VNC Viewer and re-connect VNC it's logout to lightdm(passwd window)[14:50:25] <Nishikino-Maki> how to make X11vnc keep login when i close VNC Viewer[14:51:24] <zjaro> hi guys, any solution to install chromium-pepper-flash-standalone for the i686?[14:54:41] <newmanj> peetaur2 - thanks for the info - does it make sense then why only upgrading kdebase (i doubt it was firefox or flash update) would cause the system to break?[14:55:26] <newmanj> i mean, i am old school, if kde is broken, great, why can't i just get to a non xwindows terminal bash session??[14:55:48] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has joined #manjaro[14:56:17] *** chinesesausage <chinesesausage!~cscadmin@187.157.159.226> has joined #manjaro[14:56:24] <peetaur2> newmanj: hit ctrl-alt-f2 to get a text tty[14:56:35] <newmanj> it seems like systemd is complaining about something, it wants me to check some error logs, but of course, i can't do that unless i hit bash[14:57:09] <newmanj> I did that peetaur2 - it just gets stuck there, waiting for session or something[14:57:19] <mckittrick> sorry back[14:57:28] <zjaro> no?[14:57:30] <peetaur2> and if you got systemd-ed or just x stole the keyboard so you have no text tty, then you cna try unraw (left alt + sysqr aka print screen + r) but that key is probably not enabled.... and last you can try hitting e on the grub menu entry to edit it, and add "single" to the end of the "linux ... vmlinuz-..." line and hitting f10 to boot in single user (root only, text mode)[14:57:34] <mckittrick> i was thinkining about using an old notebook mainboard[14:58:31] <mckittrick> do you think T5250 would be enough for a tv box?[14:58:33] <zjaro> what you used instead?[14:58:35] <zjaro> no?[14:58:37] <shuman> newmanj: or chroot from arch install iso like someone already said[14:59:25] <shuman> you should be able to install/update/upgrade/remove packages[14:59:33] *** Maki-Smartphone <Maki-Smartphone!~Maki-Smar@112.90.147.48> has joined #manjaro[15:01:59] <newmanj> yeah, i finally hit bash, i'll be okay now.... i re-tried the ctrl-alt-f2 from the failure and was able to get it[15:02:07] *** Manjaro-kde5-Lwr <Manjaro-kde5-Lwr!~manjaro-k@200.122.243.32> has joined #manjaro[15:02:12] <newmanj> thx again[15:02:57] *** zjaro <zjaro!~zjaro@88.244.198.182> has quit IRC (Quit: fukkU)[15:03:41] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has joined #manjaro[15:04:02] <newmanj> i'm still not sure if i like all the systemd 'features'.... but to be fair, I haven't really had time to learn it all[15:04:25] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!~wmedrano@2601:647:4601:ea84:105c:e568:fb76:648f> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:04:32] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@63-153-6-52.blng.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[15:06:35] *** chinesesausage <chinesesausage!~cscadmin@187.157.159.226> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:07:45] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:07:50] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@63-153-1-2.blng.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:09:19] *** varaindemian <varaindemian!~octavian@86.122.108.10> has joined #manjaro[15:09:30] *** Maki-Smartphone <Maki-Smartphone!~Maki-Smar@112.90.147.48> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[15:10:09] <varaindemian> how come on #manjaro are a lot less users than on #archlinux even tho manjaro is a more popular linux distro?[15:13:08] <Lowl3v3l> varaindemian, first thing : the demographics are pretty different[15:13:21] <VoidFox> and half of us are in arch too.. same with all other arch derivatives[15:13:48] <Lowl3v3l> varaindemian, second : the difference in popularity is not that big so measuring it is error prone. 3. there is no useful way of measuring it at all[15:13:56] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-12714.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[15:14:01] <Lowl3v3l> and then 4. ) there are people like me here that dont even use manjaro themselves :p[15:14:02] <Avengence> is anyone else here using the enlightenment edition?[15:14:13] <Lowl3v3l> just a few things that i see with this statement^^[15:16:29] <varaindemian> Lowl3v3l: Can it be make to use the arch repositories? :D[15:17:02] <Lowl3v3l> varaindemian, uhm what do you mean?[15:17:19] <newmanj> yeah of course, just manually change your sources[15:17:40] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[15:17:47] <Lowl3v3l> varaindemian, it is not possible without a hassle to change manjaro to use the arch-repos, no.[15:18:30] <Lowl3v3l> varaindemian, and if you meant to make statistics based on the use of the arch repos consider my usecase : i am ONE user with 3 arch installations running atm. pretty bad for statistics too^^[15:19:14] <newmanj> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/mirrors#Official_mirrors[15:19:15] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/FfKftR] Mirrors - ArchWiki[15:20:10] <Lowl3v3l> newmanj, can you please stop giving clearly idiotic advice here? thanks^^[15:20:24] *** df__ <df__!~df@46.166.190.230> has joined #manjaro[15:20:32] <df__> hey[15:20:37] <Lowl3v3l> hi df__[15:20:47] <df__> what am i missing here... have installed the net edition[15:20:53] <newmanj> what's clearly idiotic about changing your sources?[15:21:02] <df__> and said no sudo rights for the non root account[15:21:22] <df__> but it still have root access via sudo -i[15:21:27] <Lowl3v3l> newmanj, the fact that manjaro is a different distribution with patches et cetera that will break in the process of running an update after :)[15:21:32] <varaindemian> Lowl3v3l: well I thought Manjaro is basically Arch with manjaro-repos (for extra stability and stuff that can be easly changed) + a friendly installation process :D[15:21:35] <df__> checked groups... no wheel[15:21:40] <Lowl3v3l> varaindemian, nope it isn't[15:21:52] <df__> checked sudoers and sudoers.d[15:21:53] <df__> nothing[15:22:13] <Lowl3v3l> df__, is sudo installed at all? i'd be surprised if your standard user would be getting sudo rights, but i dont know. dont use installers myself[15:22:23] <df__> why does it still get sudo rights?[15:22:33] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:22:39] <Lowl3v3l> varaindemian, manjaro is a completely different distribution with different goals and lots of patches in core packages^^[15:23:09] <Lowl3v3l> varaindemian, it even has a different release model than arch with the 3 branches and stuff, different tools ( mhwd), it has installers...[15:23:39] <Lowl3v3l> df__, i honestly don't know but it sounds suspicious.[15:24:01] <df__> cheers... will post to forum[15:24:13] <peetaur2> uh yeah don't just change the resos to the arch ones... use aur for the same as you get on arch, and use unstable branch if you want the latest stuff from arch, but don't use their repos directly[15:24:41] <Lowl3v3l> peetaur2, well even the unstable packages are not guaranteed to be the same as arch, many of them are patched^^[15:25:44] <df__> what does root ALL=(ALL) ALL[15:25:51] <df__> mean?[15:25:56] <df__> its in the sudoers file[15:26:06] *** manjaro-web|4516 <manjaro-web|4516!5fa90b3c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.169.11.60> has joined #manjaro[15:26:21] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[15:26:49] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.113.52.224> has quit IRC (Quit: Nishikino-Maki)[15:26:55] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:27:04] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.48> has joined #manjaro[15:27:35] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@74.100.37.250> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:27:56] <Lowl3v3l> df__, read the manpage of sudo and stuff, those are the default rights of the root account if root uses sudo. this might help too : http://sleepyhead.de/howto/?href=sudo[15:27:56] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/yG5hbK] Simple howtos[15:28:37] *** manjaro-web|4516 <manjaro-web|4516!5fa90b3c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.169.11.60> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:30:31] <df__> Lowl3v3l, thanks... makes perfect sense[15:32:10] <df__> but still cant figure how the account landed with root access[15:32:14] <newmanj> many former crunchbang users on manjaro now?[15:32:27] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has joined #manjaro[15:33:05] <Lowl3v3l> df__, the root account always gets all sudo rights itself.[15:33:22] <df__> its not that[15:33:29] <Lowl3v3l> df__, if your account hasn't got the rights you'd like fire up visudo and change it[15:33:34] <df__> its the second account created... at install time[15:33:58] <df__> it prompted.. give it sudo rights.. said no[15:34:26] <df__> this account - not in wheel group... not in sudo file[15:35:58] <Lowl3v3l> df__, then again just use visudo and fix it?[15:38:01] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[15:38:13] *** Akeno <Akeno!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:39:08] <df__> ... ignore me[15:39:16] <df__> PEBKAC[15:39:41] <peetaur2> Lowl3v3l: yeah if they were the same I wouldn't say avoid using the repos directly. You can't assume they're compatible until they have been patched.[15:39:57] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:42:49] *** df__ <df__!~df@46.166.190.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:43:20] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@86.108.105.78> has joined #manjaro[15:45:09] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:46:05] <varaindemian> Lowl3v3l: One thing I don't understand is if it's a rolling realease distro why are there versions like 16.06? Also, can the green theme 16.06 jwm easly be turned into the oldish orange theme?[15:47:01] <Lowl3v3l> varaindemian, jwmhas surely simple editable configs i'd assume. and those releases are more like "snapshots" of the stable branch.[15:49:24] <Lowl3v3l> but thing is : you gotta have some of those to provide a somewhat reliable livecd with graphics and stuff for the masses. I dont consider this the right way, but i may be extreme here^^[15:52:27] *** Akeno <Akeno!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[15:52:42] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[15:53:03] <NanoSector> who may i slap for not fixing the manjaro wiki's certificates in a timely manner[15:55:08] *** stiky <stiky!~manjaro-b@d173-183-64-157.bchsia.telus.net> has joined #manjaro[15:56:18] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[15:56:22] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:00:02] *** Akeno <Akeno!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:01:31] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@ti0050a400-0462.bb.online.no> has joined #manjaro[16:01:33] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has joined #manjaro[16:02:09] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has quit IRC (Quit: Gonna go ... see later)[16:02:39] <newmanj> yeah nano - i noticed that also, had to add an exception for it[16:04:32] *** newmanj <newmanj!ad2030f2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.32.48.242> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[16:04:51] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has joined #manjaro[16:05:55] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has joined #manjaro[16:08:45] <varaindemian> jwm or i3[16:09:14] <varaindemian> With all the already made customization it's hard to pick one[16:09:48] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.168.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:10:35] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.168.73> has joined #manjaro[16:12:33] *** Akeno <Akeno!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[16:13:55] *** raleeha <raleeha!~knut@x55b396d5.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[16:15:00] <varikonniemi> is nethogs accurate for displaying bandwidth consumption?[16:16:10] <varikonniemi> it dispalys about 10kb/s smaller than xfce net monitor applet[16:18:43] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:20:22] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@host132-230-dynamic.22-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[16:22:18] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.168.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:23:42] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[16:23:55] *** varaindemian <varaindemian!~octavian@86.122.108.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[16:26:37] *** floown_ <floown_!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has joined #manjaro[16:27:46] *** floown_ is now known as floown[16:29:36] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:29:45] *** nooby321 <nooby321!5390e103@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.144.225.3> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[16:31:03] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.250.143.249> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:31:29] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wyhplnlinqzdvxwt> has joined #manjaro[16:33:07] *** kc9iid <kc9iid!~mark@c-68-44-47-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[16:33:35] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!3e9fed02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.159.237.2> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[16:34:58] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[16:44:36] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[16:48:29] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.250.143.249> has joined #manjaro[16:50:13] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[16:52:26] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has joined #manjaro[16:55:21] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has joined #manjaro[16:55:56] *** j09 <j09!51979260@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.151.146.96> has joined #manjaro[16:57:59] <j09> Hey guys, I've just installed an SSD drive into my netbook, however it's not being picked up. It throws out this error when I try and boot from a live CD "ata3: softreset failed (device not ready)” any ideas?[17:00:12] *** kc9iid <kc9iid!~mark@c-68-44-47-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye Everyone)[17:00:28] <LyriCa> does ur notebook have a uefi firmware?[17:00:35] <LyriCa> j09[17:00:36] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@ti0050a400-0462.bb.online.no> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[17:01:05] <j09> no it's an Acer Aspire One[17:01:21] <LyriCa> hmm[17:01:32] <LyriCa> make sure the firmware is updated[17:01:39] <mtn> j09: did you do any searching on the error? see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=949593[17:01:41] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/JLXR3U] [ubuntu] Softreset failed (device not ready)[17:01:45] <LyriCa> the ssd firmware i mena[17:02:46] <j09> i did a search but as you can see, most of the results are from 2008[17:03:11] <j09> how would i go about updating the ssd firmware? I only bought it today, do I need to?[17:03:52] <LyriCa> oj\[17:03:53] <LyriCa> j09[17:03:57] <LyriCa> what ssd do u have?[17:04:31] <j09> Kingston ssdnow300[17:04:35] <mtn> j09: reading the link I sent you may be helpful[17:04:48] <LyriCa> because when i bought my first ssd, i ran into some issues too , but i resolved them by formatting it with something like gparted via its live cd[17:04:52] <LyriCa> oo i didnt se ethat lol[17:04:54] <LyriCa> hold on[17:05:17] <LyriCa> send the link again , as i dont see your link[17:05:48] <j09> the Gparted on Manjaro doesn't pick it up.[17:06:06] <j09> mtn I'm not currently finding anything useful there, is there something specific I should be looking for?[17:06:39] <LyriCa> j09, what do u mean gparted doesnt pick up? it doesnt launch?[17:06:58] <j09> gparted doesn't/can't find the ssd[17:07:05] <LyriCa> ok i see[17:07:08] *** raleeha <raleeha!~knut@x55b396d5.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:07:13] <j09> I'm using the livecd[17:07:25] <LyriCa> make sure to go to the bios and make sure u list that ssd as a main drive.[17:07:34] <mtn> j09: it has a link to a "fix". maybe you should read it and see if it would help. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/14023[17:07:37] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/cbCCuz] Question #14023 : Questions : Ubuntu[17:08:14] <LyriCa> because this might be a bios thing , if u already did it then i suggest u grab ur self a windows cd/dvd somewhere and use it to install it (partitioning) that drive and then do the linux live cd[17:08:20] <LyriCa> j09[17:08:51] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:09:03] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[17:10:09] <j09> I'll check the bio. Sorry mtn your suggestion hasn't worked.[17:14:10] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has joined #manjaro[17:14:37] <j09> well there aren't many bios options, I've changed one relating to the hard drive but it changed the error to "ata1: SRST failed (errno=-16)"[17:15:28] <LyriCa> i suggest u try a windows cd[17:15:47] <j09> i don't have a windows cd[17:15:51] <LyriCa> after its been formatted by windows, try the linux cd afterwards[17:15:56] <LyriCa> hmnmn[17:16:00] <LyriCa> well[17:16:03] <LyriCa> hm[17:16:06] <LyriCa> ok[17:16:08] <LyriCa> so[17:16:13] <LyriCa> since gparted doesnt start[17:16:18] <LyriCa> lets format it with parted[17:16:53] <j09> it's not that gparted won't start, it's that it doesn't detect the ssd[17:16:57] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:155b:d::1007> has joined #manjaro[17:17:12] <LyriCa> regardless, lets try parted so open up a terminal and type in sudo parted, then print all and whatever drive is ur ssd type " select /dev/sd?[17:17:50] <LyriCa> if it still faile sto detect anything, i take it that it might be something regarding the drive itself or the efi settings[17:17:55] <LyriCa> uefi settings*[17:18:08] <LyriCa> so it might be worth it to turn uefi off[17:18:14] <LyriCa> as that make sthing a pain in the neck[17:19:02] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has joined #manjaro[17:19:31] <j09> there's no uefi on the device, it's all bios[17:19:45] <LyriCa> i see[17:19:54] <LyriCa> then it might be the drive[17:20:22] <LyriCa> if u wanna go the extra mile to confirm this is what u can do[17:21:32] <LyriCa> u can put the otehr drive in , and if it has a linux installation in it , use it and with that new ssd see if u can connect it to the laptop maybe if u have an external drive ( get the adapter from it and connect it to the ssd to see if it works ) this is just anotehr way to confirm if u have an external hdd[17:21:48] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:22:33] <j09> yeah, i think i'll try that. The good thing is that I can get a refund if it craps out.[17:23:39] <LyriCa> definetly[17:23:44] <LyriCa> what size is that ssd?[17:23:48] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@p5DE396D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:24:59] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@189.62.254.223> has joined #manjaro[17:25:07] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@189.62.254.223> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:25:39] <LyriCa> j09 one tip if u get that ssd working or if u plan on having anotehr ssd on the laptop, I wouldnt use a swap partition on an SSD , since swap when being used the system does lots of read/writes in it , and since ssds have i believe a fixed ammount of read/writes, if you use a swap on an ssd the ssd will die faster.[17:25:47] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has joined #manjaro[17:26:51] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:28:49] <j09> thanks, i've heard that before but always useful to bear it in mind[17:30:02] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:30:19] <peetaur2> j09: test the SSD on another machine to see if it's broken[17:30:44] <peetaur2> j09: if a random SATA disk works, I'd expect the SSD to work the same, unless it was broken[17:31:02] <peetaur2> firmware, efi, etc. aren't important unless you boot. your livecd test didn't require booting it[17:31:14] <peetaur2> (important, but no more important than for the sata disk)[17:32:02] *** Mate-user1512 <Mate-user1512!~manjaro-m@70.245.61.188.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #manjaro[17:32:02] *** Mate-user1512 <Mate-user1512!~manjaro-m@70.245.61.188.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:32:34] <j09> thanks :-)[17:34:52] *** varaindemian <varaindemian!~octavian@86.122.108.10> has joined #manjaro[17:35:31] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@LFbn-1-1757-170.w90-66.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[17:36:10] *** emigrantcz <emigrantcz!~emigrant@176.0.139.149> has joined #manjaro[17:36:24] <j09> ok, so i've got the ssd plugged into my main machinevia usb. This computer is not picking it up either.[17:37:35] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE16B8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:37:51] <j09> it couldn't be that this ssd is too advanced for any of my hardware? It's a SATA 3.0[17:38:35] <peetaur2> is your hw newer than 5 years? ;)[17:38:55] <peetaur2> also, if you plug a sata 3 disk into a sata 2 controller, it'll just run sata 2 speed.[17:39:07] <peetaur2> my previous 5+ year old machine here was using many sata3 disks including a samsung ssd[17:39:07] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-djqycpaulgjdvcff> has joined #manjaro[17:39:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[17:39:12] <peetaur2> with sata2[17:40:30] <j09> i looked for a sata2 disk, but they're not sold in many places so I assumed a SATA 3 would be backwards compatable. I bought the machine around 2012 but the Kingston website says that only SATA 1 machines made pre-2008 need to be worried.[17:40:39] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:40:58] <peetaur2> I haven't personally tested sata1 with sata3 disks, but every sata2 machine I tried works with sata3 disks and SSDs[17:41:23] <peetaur2> I even have one machine with SAS2 expanders that works fine with a SAS3 HBA and SATA3 disks[17:42:48] <j09> so it's looking like I might have bought a defective SSD, does it look like that to you guys too?[17:43:18] <peetaur2> if I trusted the hardware, I'd say yes for sure... but don't know ;)[17:43:27] <peetaur2> just try it everywhere you can and gain certainty[17:43:47] <peetaur2> if you can try it on a SATA machine, it'd be a better test than the usb thing[17:44:08] <j09> It's a Kingston drive so it's a well known brand.[17:45:49] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[17:48:39] <j09> I'll try it internall, brb guys.[17:48:47] *** j09 <j09!51979260@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.151.146.96> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:51:26] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:52:19] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[17:54:19] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[18:00:35] *** j09 <j09!51979260@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.151.146.96> has joined #manjaro[18:01:08] <j09> ok so this pc refused to boot past bios if the drives was connected[18:03:18] <j09> It definitly seems like a faulty drive[18:04:11] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@LFbn-1-1757-170.w90-66.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:05:04] *** emicz <emicz!~emigrant@176.0.139.149> has joined #manjaro[18:05:21] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.186.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:06:13] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@p5DE396D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:06:39] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@p5DE396D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:07:45] *** manjaro-web|6395 <manjaro-web|6395!4db35d8e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.179.93.142> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:08:09] *** emigrantcz <emigrantcz!~emigrant@176.0.139.149> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:10:31] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@80.12.55.133> has joined #manjaro[18:10:54] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.186.194> has joined #manjaro[18:11:27] <vexare> is it AHCI set im bios?[18:11:30] <vexare> in[18:11:48] <j09> i'll just check[18:12:20] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@host132-230-dynamic.22-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:12:23] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@137.119.205.144> has joined #manjaro[18:12:23] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@137.119.205.144> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:12:23] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[18:13:04] <j09> Yes it is vexare[18:13:32] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[18:13:36] <vexare> well[18:14:33] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.48> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:14:36] *** Nishikino-Maki1 <Nishikino-Maki1!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.146> has joined #manjaro[18:15:11] <j09> Every way I look at it, it looks like a defective drive[18:15:26] <j09> I guess even Kingston drop the ball from time to time[18:16:01] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[18:16:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[18:17:00] *** Nishikino-Maki1 is now known as Nishikino-Maki[18:17:05] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[18:17:35] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[18:21:00] <j09> Thank you every for helping. It's really appreciated.[18:21:06] <j09> everyone*[18:23:25] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[18:23:28] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~miro1234@tm.78.153.62.180.dc.cable.static.telemach.net> has joined #manjaro[18:23:28] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~miro1234@tm.78.153.62.180.dc.cable.static.telemach.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:24:13] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:26:40] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-184-123.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:28:10] *** linux-user-rn <linux-user-rn!~linux-use@72.15.26.20> has joined #manjaro[18:29:19] *** mckittrick <mckittrick!~mckittric@dslb-188-110-228-108.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[18:30:20] *** ace139 <ace139!~Soumyo@123.63.8.246> has joined #manjaro[18:32:51] *** LucaB <LucaB!~Luca@a91-154-69-5.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #manjaro[18:36:03] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:37:28] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@80.12.55.133> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:39:00] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@80.12.55.133> has joined #manjaro[18:43:37] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:46:25] *** j09 <j09!51979260@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.151.146.96> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:52:24] *** Manj-1603-Lxqt <Manj-1603-Lxqt!~manjaro@124-171-98-149.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[18:52:41] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~JIMMY_RAY@2602:302:d113:14d0::42> has joined #manjaro[18:52:54] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~JIMMY_RAY@2602:302:d113:14d0::42> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:53:20] *** Manj-1603-Lxqt <Manj-1603-Lxqt!~manjaro@124-171-98-149.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:53:51] *** JIMMY_RAY <JIMMY_RAY!~JIMMY_RAY@2602:302:d113:14d0::42> has joined #manjaro[18:55:08] <JIMMY_RAY> HOW do I update the kernal[18:55:29] <mtn> JIMMY_RAY: use manjaro settings tool[18:55:44] <JIMMY_RAY> thank you[18:58:37] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!58d9b528@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.217.181.40> has joined #manjaro[18:58:51] <JIMMY_RAY> Sorry to ask this but should i update the kernal i get notifacations a new kernal is avalabile but the kernal im using looks like 4.4.13-1-manjaro is this ok to keep[18:59:14] *** silli <silli!~silli@host238-14-static.223-195-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:59:21] <Matumaros> Hi, I tried to install Manjaro yesterday over a DVD, I thought it was broken because it caused an error when it was done burning and the installation only works partially[18:59:39] <Matumaros> now I burnt it onto a USB stick[18:59:45] <Matumaros> but it's the same result[19:00:10] <Matumaros> firstly, it doesn't give me the fancy graphical choice of what I want to do but a simple selection (although the options are the same)[19:00:14] <Lowl3v3l> Matumaros, have you checked some checksum?[19:00:28] *** Mate-user1512 <Mate-user1512!~manjaro-m@p4FF07702.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:00:30] <Matumaros> how do I do that Lowl3v3l?[19:00:42] *** linux-user-rn1 <linux-user-rn1!~linux-use@72.15.26.20> has joined #manjaro[19:00:58] <Lowl3v3l> JIMMY_RAY, 4.4 is a LTS kernel, it is fine and checked, there is no specific reason to use a newer one for you i'd assume[19:01:20] <JIMMY_RAY> THANK YOU SO MUCH[19:01:37] <JIMMY_RAY> IM NEW TO MANJARO ALWAYS USED LINUX MINT[19:01:45] <Lowl3v3l> Matumaros, in some linux distro there are tools like md5sum or sha1sum in the coreutils and your downlöoad-provier should provide a checksum[19:01:49] <mtn> JIMMY_RAY: please, no caps[19:01:53] *** Stabington_work_ <Stabington_work_!~CptStabin@unaffiliated/cptstabington> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[19:01:54] <JIMMY_RAY> sorry[19:02:43] <JIMMY_RAY> everyone have a wonderful day and thank you so much[19:03:05] *** JIMMY_RAY <JIMMY_RAY!~JIMMY_RAY@2602:302:d113:14d0::42> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:03:20] <Matumaros> Lowl3v3l: I'm not quite sure where that would get me? I tried it with the same stick on a different machine and everything appeared normal there, until the loading bar was full, then it just sat there for several minutes[19:03:45] <Lowl3v3l> Matumaros, simple : it excludes download-errors.[19:04:11] *** Mate-user1512 <Mate-user1512!~manjaro-m@p4FF07702.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:04:15] *** linux-user-rn <linux-user-rn!~linux-use@72.15.26.20> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[19:06:07] *** decaf <decaf!~manjaro-m@85.98.68.23> has joined #manjaro[19:06:18] *** decaf <decaf!~manjaro-m@85.98.68.23> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:06:18] *** decaf <decaf!~manjaro-m@unaffiliated/decaf> has joined #manjaro[19:06:28] <Matumaros> I'm going to try it on a third machine[19:06:33] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has joined #manjaro[19:07:08] <Lowl3v3l> Matumaros, or you start in a reasonable way, like the one i suggested.[19:07:36] <Lowl3v3l> Matumaros, the next step then would be dd'ing the iso on a stick and checking the checksum again to make sure its not an iso or stick issue[19:09:59] <Matumaros> Lowl3v3l: well, I know how to start it from another machine, so that way was faster for me, but it was the same result[19:10:06] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-dwaqgoymwgssnhpv> has joined #manjaro[19:10:58] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@145.132.131.160> has joined #manjaro[19:11:12] *** alxndr13 <alxndr13!~alxndr13@HSI-KBW-078-042-082-043.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[19:11:18] *** alxndr13 <alxndr13!~alxndr13@HSI-KBW-078-042-082-043.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:11:30] *** j09 <j09!51979260@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.151.146.96> has joined #manjaro[19:12:03] <j09> Hey guys. How can I tell if a package is available in the Manjaro repos if I've already got the AUR version installed?[19:12:50] <Lowl3v3l> j09, pacman -Ss <name> where name is a part of the package name[19:14:06] <j09> cool, thanks[19:14:18] <Matumaros> Lowl3v3l: Hum, seems like you were right, thanks[19:14:40] <Matumaros> unless it updated since yesterday[19:15:05] <Lowl3v3l> Matumaros, possible, dunno. but this should always be done while downloading the iso and after burning it ;)[19:15:17] <Lowl3v3l> j09, and pacman -Qss searches for installed packages^^[19:15:33] <j09> awesome, thanks[19:16:17] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~inma@143.red-83-46-193.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[19:16:29] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~inma@143.red-83-46-193.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:17:03] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-dwaqgoymwgssnhpv> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:17:18] *** Manjaro-kde5-Lwr <Manjaro-kde5-Lwr!~manjaro-k@200.122.243.32> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:18:53] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/cspack> has joined #manjaro[19:18:53] *** decaf <decaf!~manjaro-m@unaffiliated/decaf> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:19:58] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:22:09] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[19:24:37] <linux-user-rn1> Hi I installed the xfce build about two weeks ago I just decided to try i3. I have a conkyrc that has been working in xfce, but in i3 it floats above of other windows. How can I fix that? Is there somepthing I can add to the .conkyrc?[19:25:32] <Lowl3v3l> linux-user-rn1, this should be fixable in your i3 config, you can set single windows to always tile and stuff there[19:26:17] *** j09 <j09!51979260@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.151.146.96> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:27:04] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p50819C57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:28:00] <linux-user-rn1> Ok. What is the peramater I need to use[19:29:37] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@80.12.55.133> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:35:17] *** emigrantcz <emigrantcz!~emigrant@176.4.29.4> has joined #manjaro[19:35:17] *** emicz <emicz!~emigrant@176.0.139.149> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:36:02] <Lowl3v3l> linux-user-rn1, rtfm[19:38:45] *** Nishikino-Maki1 <Nishikino-Maki1!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.146> has joined #manjaro[19:38:57] <linux-user-rn1> This is confuesing me, what should I add to the i3 config?[19:39:25] <Lowl3v3l> linux-user-rn1, Read The Fucking Manual. RTFM.[19:41:10] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@ti0050a400-0462.bb.online.no> has joined #manjaro[19:41:18] <mtn> what?? read??!![19:42:10] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@145.132.131.160> has quit IRC (Quit: Offline)[19:42:11] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.146> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:42:11] *** Nishikino-Maki1 is now known as Nishikino-Maki[19:42:24] <linux-user-rn1> How do I find it?[19:42:56] <mtn> linux-user-rn1: how about the arch wiki? google? etc.[19:43:18] <mtn> linux-user-rn1: or even man conky?[19:44:25] <linux-user-rn1> Oah with conky not i3, that's where I was going wrong.[19:44:35] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@63-153-6-64.blng.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[19:45:10] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[19:47:19] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@63-153-6-52.blng.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:47:43] <Lowl3v3l> https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html[19:47:45] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/iW8l1N] i3: i3 User’s Guide[19:47:51] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@dvx47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[19:47:53] <Lowl3v3l> how about this?[19:48:11] <Lowl3v3l> kids these days[19:49:22] *** lumm <lumm!~lumm@2a01:e35:2f0f:b480:844e:ef4d:7bee:66f4> has joined #manjaro[19:51:17] *** alexandr2 <alexandr2!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[19:53:17] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:53:28] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:55:41] <Matumaros> Lowl3v3l: that was really the problem, now it installs just fine :)[19:55:43] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has joined #manjaro[19:55:57] <Lowl3v3l> Matumaros, cool^^[19:56:08] <Matumaros> But one issue I still had, I had to press Esc to trigger the GUI[19:57:42] <Lowl3v3l> Matumaros, start without quiet splash to turn off plymouth and look for errors. maybe journalctl or dmesg can tell you sth too[19:58:37] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[20:00:30] *** lumm <lumm!~lumm@2a01:e35:2f0f:b480:844e:ef4d:7bee:66f4> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[20:00:35] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-12714.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:00:42] *** D3mian <D3mian!~manjaro-k@206.132.109.74> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:01:46] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:02:13] *** D3mian <D3mian!~manjaro-k@206.132.109.74> has joined #manjaro[20:02:18] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[20:04:52] *** linux-user-rn1 <linux-user-rn1!~linux-use@72.15.26.20> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:06:18] *** satu <satu!~satu@83-245-233-173-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #manjaro[20:06:22] *** chmurifree is now known as chmuri[20:08:52] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@103.57.80.78> has joined #manjaro[20:08:52] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@103.57.80.78> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:09:02] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@103.57.80.78> has joined #manjaro[20:09:09] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@63-153-13-107.blng.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[20:09:39] *** aibott <aibott!~vellitata@x5d871f0d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[20:11:00] *** zz_MyPictures is now known as MyPictures[20:11:04] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@103.57.80.78> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:11:15] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@103.57.80.78> has joined #manjaro[20:12:03] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@63-153-6-64.blng.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:12:38] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@103.57.80.78> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:18:17] <Matumaros> Um, what is the default password for manjaro? I started installing and went away. 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give me some pointers about this incompatibility between mate theme and firefox http://tinyurl.com/gmulgax[20:52:30] -FatalException- [No short url] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[20:55:08] *** mckittrick <mckittrick!~mckittric@dslb-188-110-228-108.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[20:55:11] <mckittrick> hello[20:55:35] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@46.254.252.85> has joined #manjaro[20:59:16] *** Stabington_work <Stabington_work!~CptStabin@unaffiliated/cptstabington> has joined #manjaro[20:59:40] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[21:03:02] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@151.247.211.15> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[21:03:21] <Matumaros> what do you guys recommend as replacement for Skype?[21:03:40] <Lowl3v3l> Matumaros, tox or mumble, depending on what you want to do[21:04:15] <Matumaros> Lowl3v3l: mostly voice and text chat with a single person and sometimes several people[21:05:25] <Matumaros> I think Tox looks pretty good[21:05:56] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.189.137> has joined #manjaro[21:06:25] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[21:08:41] <Strit_Laptop> Matumaros, if only text and voice, mumble is the way to go.[21:12:04] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[21:12:23] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@dvx47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:12:51] *** tix <tix!~tix@176.139.185.179> has joined #manjaro[21:12:56] <tix> Hi[21:13:30] <Vlado9A> hi to you too tix[21:20:02] *** thiago__ <thiago__!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[21:20:52] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@97-121-204-248.blng.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[21:20:55] *** emigrantcz <emigrantcz!~emigrant@176.4.29.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:22:03] *** IamRight <IamRight!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 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<cc^mint!~Cybertron@p50819C57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[22:40:39] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@97-121-231-82.blng.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:40:46] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[22:41:08] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[22:42:43] <BryzNSTY> tmsbrdrs: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/18041/openvpn-step-by-step-setup-for-manjaro-linux-with-video[22:42:45] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/qo9pFy] OpenVPN Step-by-Step Setup for Manjaro Linux (with video) - PIA[22:42:47] <BryzNSTY> This worked well for me[22:43:23] <tmsbrdrs> this is why the manjaro community is awesome[22:43:39] <mike-zal> thanks BryzNSTY for the link. maybe I will set it too one day.[22:44:15] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.189.137> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:44:28] <BryzNSTY> I had such a hard time setting up PIA before I found this[22:44:32] <BryzNSTY> and np :)[22:46:21] <mike-zal> hm... this is for xfce but still it should makes easier to figure it out on other DE (different network manager).[22:46:37] <mike-zal> anyway, useful :)[22:46:45] *** D3mian <D3mian!~manjaro-k@206.132.109.74> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:47:34] *** Nishikino-Maki1 <Nishikino-Maki1!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.154> has joined #manjaro[22:47:45] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.186.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[22:47:52] <BryzNSTY> I did it on KDE and it worked fine[22:48:08] <VoidFox> mike-zal: try nmtui ^^[22:48:15] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.150.154> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:48:15] *** Nishikino-Maki1 is now known as Nishikino-Maki[22:48:37] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@97-121-233-115.blng.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[22:49:58] *** mckittrick <mckittrick!~mckittric@dslb-188-110-228-108.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[22:50:51] *** j3rzu <j3rzu!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:3b5f:9000:d1e2:a015:7235:2afe> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:53:39] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@97-121-235-115.blng.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[22:53:40] <mike-zal> works on kde? fantastic! :D[22:54:39] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[22:55:06] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@97-121-235-115.blng.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:56:34] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/cspack> has joined #manjaro[22:57:00] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@97-121-233-115.blng.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:57:08] *** Pablo__ <Pablo__!~Pablo@177.42.100.251> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:59:21] *** chmuri <chmuri!~chmurifre@31-178-100-233.dynamic.chello.pl> has 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