July 5, 2016 
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July 5, 2016 [00:03:03] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@86.108.95.213> has joined #manjaro[00:04:50] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.68.1.211> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:05:54] <[[[archtard]]]> zsh kicks the llamas ass[00:17:01] *** Artem <Artem!~Artem@109.229.67.95> has joined #manjaro[00:19:38] *** hitcoder <hitcoder!~hitcoder@host-92-24-228-122.ppp.as43234.net> has joined #manjaro[00:20:04] <hitcoder> Hello, if anyone remembers me from earlier I'm quite frequently on here and I've been short tempered at a lot of those times[00:20:20] <hitcoder> I apologize for at 16:34 I was excessively angry[00:20:27] <hitcoder> my timezone is GMT[00:20:47] <hitcoder> I overreacted about an error with linux kernel headers[00:21:40] <hitcoder> Anyway, I hate to be a burden, but does anyone know a text editor that looks just like the Kate text editor but runs in GTK? I love the Kate text editor but it will end up pulling in lots of unwanted KDE libraries, and I don't like how GEdit works.[00:22:22] <[[[archtard]]]> my exwife's name is kate so I never used it, try leafpad[00:23:13] <[[[archtard]]]> she was hot but man was she demanding[00:24:09] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, gedit ( to say the obvious)? there are several other good editors, even if you dont want to resort to the big two vim or emacs ( both got at least gtk frontents)[00:24:09] <ajfried22> use mousepad[00:24:34] <VoidFox> atom / sublime text[00:24:47] <Lowl3v3l> visual studio code[00:25:15] <BryzNSTY> does manjaro come packaged with a firewall?[00:25:22] <[[[archtard]]]> lol[00:25:25] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.185.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[00:25:33] <hitcoder> Thanks for the suggestions, and BryzNSTY yes it does[00:25:53] <hitcoder> open settings and go to system[00:26:02] <hitcoder> then "Firewall Configuration"[00:26:16] <hitcoder> VoidFox, isn't sublime text commercial?[00:26:37] <VoidFox> as commercial as winzip or winrar[00:26:40] <mtn> BryzNSTY: the firewall is buit into the kernel, so all types of linux come with a firewall ;)[00:26:40] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, there is a free version[00:27:10] <Lowl3v3l> mtn, my gentoo doesn't![00:27:11] <hitcoder> Lowl3v3l, but isn't it much more limiting?[00:27:24] <mtn> Lowl3v3l: it does not have a kernel? oh noes!![00:27:29] <hitcoder> LOL[00:27:35] <[[[archtard]]]> not much more[00:27:50] <Lowl3v3l> mtn, it has a kernel where i specifically disabled networking stuff :D[00:28:05] <hitcoder> Manjaro 16.06 failed to have any kernel-headers packages so I had to use my phone to tether to install it so I could compile my wifi driver :)[00:28:07] <mtn> Lowl3v3l: yah, I figured it was something silly like that[00:28:29] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, yeah, why would it come with dev-packages?[00:28:42] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, dunno, i dont like sublimetext that much. vim rules.[00:28:48] <VoidFox> is it possible to link all incoming traffic to /dev/null? best fw ever!![00:29:01] <[[[archtard]]]> :P[00:29:13] <hitcoder> lol Lowl3v3l I prefer graphical frontend stuff but I do like lightweight stuff[00:29:53] <VoidFox> i´d like to give vim a serious chance too, but i just cant get used to the hjkl navigation[00:29:56] <hitcoder> I think it's because up until 3 years ago I got into Linux and stopped using it for 2 years but this year I'm trying to move to Linux completely and Manjaro hits the spot for that perfectly tbh[00:29:59] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, there are several graphical frontends for vim and neovim[00:30:21] <hitcoder> I like the look of Atom, VoidFox[00:30:43] <hitcoder> Lowl3v3l, yeah, figures, but I really have some kind of issue with the layout of most text editors[00:30:50] <hitcoder> not the functionality but the layout[00:31:14] <hitcoder> meh I'm very picky[00:31:15] <Lowl3v3l> uhuh...[00:31:31] <Lowl3v3l> "picky"? nah i am picky. Newbie maybe ;)[00:31:43] <hitcoder> I'd write my own text editor but I don't know what framework to use[00:32:00] <hitcoder> also I have more experience with C# and Lua than anything else right now[00:32:03] <VoidFox> then atom is probably a good choice.. + points in looks, but i hear its not that awesome in functionality[00:32:09] <hitcoder> lol[00:32:19] <hitcoder> I don't need it to do fancy things[00:32:25] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-2-98-94-108.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:32:32] <hitcoder> I just want nice syntax highlighting etc[00:32:36] <hitcoder> and tabs[00:32:42] <hitcoder> and they have to be um[00:32:45] <hitcoder> well[00:32:55] <hitcoder> I don't like how certain tabbed interfaces look[00:33:06] <hitcoder> Atom looks pretty tho =P[00:34:29] <hitcoder> Does Atom have a light theme? I'm a bit weird for that but I like light themes for some reason[00:34:35] <hitcoder> 99% of people prefer dark themes though[00:34:36] <[[[archtard]]]> so did my exwife Kate[00:34:47] <hitcoder> LOL[00:35:43] <hitcoder> how old was everyone when they first started using Linux?[00:35:47] <hitcoder> I was 13 lol[00:36:00] <Lowl3v3l> i was about 14[00:36:06] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:36:10] <hitcoder> nice =P[00:36:13] <[[[archtard]]]> hell I can't remember back when win98 came out[00:36:24] <hitcoder> who gives a fuck about windows[00:36:29] <hitcoder> rofl[00:36:52] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-654-1-433-15.w83-205.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[00:37:09] <hitcoder> Windows lost me 4 hours of work two years ago, I've never been the same person since.[00:37:23] *** kc9iid <kc9iid!~mark@c-68-44-47-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye Everyone)[00:37:41] <hitcoder> that was in one bulk[00:37:56] <hitcoder> in total it probably lost me 24 days of work[00:37:57] <Lowl3v3l> windows is my favorite exploitation framework still[00:38:03] <hitcoder> lol yeah[00:39:02] *** [[[archtard]]] <[[[archtard]]]!~bonehead@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/archtard/x-42966204> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:39:47] <hitcoder> by the way[00:40:02] <hitcoder> anyone have a solution to the crappy broken old skype Microsoft have left us with[00:40:15] <mtn> hitcoder: sure, don't use it[00:40:18] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, not using skype?[00:40:31] <hitcoder> hah, all of my friends use it though[00:40:40] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, seriously they wont upgrade it , calculatedly not less.[00:40:51] <hitcoder> I'm half way getting them to move to Discord though[00:40:52] <Lowl3v3l> they dont upgrade it so you are forced to use windows for newer skype[00:41:00] <hitcoder> yeah[00:41:00] <mtn> hitcoder: then, you will have to use skype to talk to them[00:41:10] <ajfried22> my friends use hangouts or appear.in[00:41:33] *** Grizzly__ <Grizzly__!~freyja@viv44-1-78-193-228-86.fbxo.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:41:37] <hitcoder> the best solution I could find is running ghetto-skype for messages and just voice calls[00:41:42] <Lowl3v3l> am am in the middle of the process of migrating all my friends to tox+threema. my only skypedevice i have left is my smartphone[00:41:57] <hitcoder> and when I want to do video and screen share I use the official skype[00:41:59] <hitcoder> yah[00:42:13] <hitcoder> people seem to hate tox though[00:42:44] *** Grizzly_ <Grizzly_!~freyja@viv44-1-78-193-228-86.fbxo.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[00:43:19] <hitcoder> also why does LibreOffice have such a dated look to it[00:43:26] <VoidFox> there are so many I've given up keeping track.. never heard of tox[00:43:43] <Lowl3v3l> VoidFox, well tox is just a library and a protocol^^[00:44:01] <hitcoder> it's like skype but more p2p based VoidFox[00:44:09] <VoidFox> huh ok[00:44:20] <Lowl3v3l> VoidFox, and its encrypted in a sane way^^[00:44:23] <hitcoder> but I tried to make an account on it and it wouldn't let me sign into it on other devices[00:45:14] <hitcoder> I started looking at screenshots and got hyped but then found it had a very lackful functionality and was very disappointed[00:45:49] *** alxndr13 <alxndr13!~alxndr13@HSI-KBW-078-042-082-043.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[00:46:32] <hitcoder> pamac really annoys me, I set a bunch of applications to install and I hate it when one fails and it cancels everything else[00:46:34] <Lowl3v3l> i found nothing "lacking" in tox... okay never tried conference calls with it, always use mumble for those[00:47:04] <zero-ghost> me and my friends were forced to move to mumble when doing groupcalls[00:47:20] <zero-ghost> because something is pretty messed up[00:47:24] <zero-ghost> but tox is still my main communicator[00:47:39] <hitcoder> I use Discord for most voice chat nowadays[00:47:54] <hitcoder> it has an excessive amount of hype[00:47:59] <zero-ghost> the only thing that matters to me is fully end to end encrypted, p2p software[00:48:01] <hitcoder> but it pretty much killed TeamSpeak[00:48:02] <zero-ghost> so i wont use anything else[00:48:17] <zero-ghost> discord is closed source, centralized, unencrypted[00:48:33] <Lowl3v3l> essentially skype[00:48:35] <hitcoder> lol[00:48:44] <hitcoder> at least it's not owned by microsoft[00:49:09] <Lowl3v3l> wow. yeah i feel safer now that its owned by some obscure little company.[00:49:10] <Lowl3v3l> not.[00:49:12] <zero-ghost> doesnt matter, you can only assume all your conversations are recorded and its scanning your computer for your private documents[00:49:32] <hitcoder> lmao[00:49:39] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-654-1-433-15.w83-205.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:49:55] <hitcoder> anyways yeah I have a bunch of friends that pretty much diss me when I say I prefer open-source stuff[00:50:18] <day|flip> I think tox is the best alternative to skype[00:50:38] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, then they are idiots, get rid of them.[00:50:38] <zero-ghost> it is, its just too bad the dev environment got so "toxic"[00:50:44] <zero-ghost> dev worked slowed down too much[00:50:47] <hitcoder> and they come up with the baloney argument that proprietary stuff is much more stable and reliable, and get faster development[00:50:50] <hitcoder> it's stupid[00:51:04] <zero-ghost> but i think there are alternatives coming that will be even better than tox[00:51:05] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, dont be friends with idiots, simple^^[00:51:15] <hitcoder> because Open-Source is developed faster[00:51:15] <hitcoder> more people can commit[00:51:19] <hitcoder> more people can suggest stuff[00:51:19] <hitcoder> yeah[00:51:19] <hitcoder> lol[00:51:43] <hitcoder> I'm okay with idiots so long as they're not idiots who think they're smart[00:51:45] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qtgvrfqovelmvcgf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:51:58] <day|flip> just how NET.core went open source[00:52:13] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, idiots always think they are smart, thats called the dunning kruger effect[00:52:39] <hitcoder> lol[00:53:01] <day|flip> the thing is. any idiots have a smart side to them[00:55:14] <Lowl3v3l> uhm i doubt this theory of cosmic justice. sometimes idiots are just idiots[00:56:23] <hitcoder> yeah[00:57:09] <hitcoder> also is the mono framework crappy or is it fairly decent? I'm learning C# but it's not really used on anything other than the DotNET frameworks[00:57:57] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, apart from hating ".Net" in general... i liked working with monostuff, oka maybe i consider monodevelop a decent ide and compiler compared to the visual-crap^^[00:58:04] <hitcoder> I mostly know Lua because it's pretty much the easiest programming language to learn,[00:58:13] <hitcoder> so if using Lua would be more efficient to make a GUI than C# on Linux then I'd do that[00:58:23] <hitcoder> yeah[00:58:57] <Lowl3v3l> okay i'd use none of both... xD[00:58:57] <hitcoder> have you ever heard of that one piece of software known as Game Maker by a company called YoyoGames?[00:59:17] <Lowl3v3l> dunno but just the name scares me...[00:59:49] <hitcoder> yeah it's a pretty crappy IDE for windows and it is quite popular, has it's own programming language like a dumbed-down cross between java and C++,[01:00:02] <hitcoder> it's not bad tbh but it's pretty stupid[01:00:25] <hitcoder> because the developers made it basically create .exe files by taking the code and adding an interpreter into the software[01:00:33] <hitcoder> it's easy to exploit anything made with it etc[01:00:39] <hitcoder> and then this other thing comes along[01:00:43] <hitcoder> enigma-dev.org[01:00:50] <hitcoder> it's basically an open-source competitor[01:00:54] <hitcoder> (so instant win)[01:01:09] <hitcoder> the language is pretty much the same[01:01:10] <hitcoder> but[01:01:17] <hitcoder> it compiles applications natively into C++[01:01:24] <hitcoder> for whatever platform you want[01:01:29] <hitcoder> and it's compiled properly[01:01:43] <hitcoder> and then Yoyogames sees this and builds "the yoyogames compiler"[01:01:44] <Lowl3v3l> my main problem with visual studio is how damned bloated it is. okay and their "c++ compiler" doesnt remotely deserve this name[01:02:37] <hitcoder> yeah visual studio is bloated[01:02:45] <hitcoder> but again, when you're used to Skype[01:02:55] <hitcoder> anything isn't bloated in comparison to Skype[01:03:13] <hitcoder> Skype uses more CPU and RAM than any games you can buy on steam[01:03:45] <Lowl3v3l> hitcoder, i once tried to use the visual studio ultimate edition and stopped.[01:03:57] <hitcoder> yeah[01:04:02] <hitcoder> just the name sounds bloated[01:04:08] <hitcoder> like Windows 7 Aero[01:04:13] <hitcoder> urgh[01:04:23] <Lowl3v3l> if my 16GB-Ram, i7 3.6-4GHz + Cuda pc can't run it in any reasonable pace it HAS TO be bloatware.[01:05:03] *** Artem <Artem!~Artem@109.229.67.95> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:06:11] <hitcoder> funny thing, on windows if I was playing CSGO, if I alt+tabbed to check another application my pc would freeze for up to 10 minutes[01:06:15] <hitcoder> on Manjaro XFCE[01:06:22] <hitcoder> it's instant to alt+tab from CSGO[01:06:30] <hitcoder> craaaaazy right?[01:06:45] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.154> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[01:09:13] <hitcoder> anyways sorry for ruining this IRC I'm gonna take a step back and offer help if people need it .w.[01:12:24] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p579915A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:13:30] <day|flip> hitcoder, tbh if no one is asking for help. then it ok be off-topic in here. when there asking. may want to stop.[01:14:23] <hitcoder> yeah lol[01:16:03] <mtn> off-topic drivel is often the norm here[01:17:04] *** cspack_ <cspack_!~cspack@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/cspack> has joined #manjaro[01:18:57] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/cspack> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[01:19:45] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-088-249.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:20:04] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ip5f5be547.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[01:20:05] <hitcoder> so who here uses Tox?[01:20:48] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@pool-71-190-244-207.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: is time traveling to the future)[01:21:24] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.48> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:24:26] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ip5f5be547.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:27:51] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@86.108.95.213> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:28:39] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bryznsty> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[01:29:36] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@172.98.67.113> has joined #manjaro[01:32:33] <day|flip> don't have a headset. so tox or skype is not useful for me[01:33:04] *** Kevin <Kevin!3fe7a3b6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.63.231.163.182> has joined #manjaro[01:33:09] *** operator <operator!~operator@dslb-084-060-056-177.084.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[01:33:15] <operator> test[01:33:27] *** 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It will restart the laptop every time.[01:35:51] *** Attunga <Attunga!~Attunga@124-171-194-80.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:36:14] <Guest25974> anyone know what I should do?[01:36:21] *** Attunga <Attunga!~Attunga@124-171-194-80.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[01:36:23] *** xabbu <xabbu!~xabbu@unaffiliated/xabbu> has joined #manjaro[01:36:24] <Guest25974> everything else works fine except shutdown.[01:37:22] *** Batch_ <Batch_!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[01:38:10] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[01:38:14] *** Batch_ is now known as Batch[01:39:25] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:40:04] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@ti0050a400-0462.bb.online.no> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[01:41:40] *** Guest25974 <Guest25974!3fe7a3b6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.63.231.163.182> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[01:42:04] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@63-231-163-182.mpls.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[01:42:29] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip5f5be547.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[01:42:40] *** manjaro-web|9904 <manjaro-web|9904!ba8879be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.136.121.190> has joined #manjaro[01:44:11] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@63-231-163-182.mpls.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:45:12] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[01:46:43] *** Manjaro-kde5-Lwr <Manjaro-kde5-Lwr!~manjaro-k@191.103.232.129> has joined #manjaro[01:48:52] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:49:26] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[01:50:15] *** mparillo <mparillo!mparillo@gateway/shell/kde/x-aazclpncayspwbxz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[01:51:22] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip5f5be547.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:54:01] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[01:56:49] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[01:56:52] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:59:55] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwyvfmhltxhivfmq> has joined #manjaro[01:59:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[02:00:06] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Why not take the time and learn to make it your self[05:08:13] <day|flip> figure what package you need and keep trying to build it till your able to make it[05:21:22] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:21:26] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:24:41] *** hongliangsam <hongliangsam!~hongliang@unaffiliated/hongliangsam> has joined #manjaro[05:27:28] *** shuman <shuman!~shuman@d156-119.icpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:38:59] *** skarj <skarj!~manjaro-k@2a02:2f08:2101:7000:3fdd:b70d:82ca:bcae> has joined #manjaro[05:41:22] <manjaro-kde5> i tried but its beyond my scope of linux knowledge[05:43:24] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:44:04] *** fred-fri <fred-fri!~fred-fri@59-100-209-246.bri.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #manjaro[05:48:23] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[05:51:24] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[05:53:21] *** dh64 <dh64!~dh64@174-21-138-210.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[05:54:59] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:55:42] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[05:58:30] *** smeefonater <smeefonater!~deathonat@cpe-69-203-208-219.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[06:01:33] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[06:04:09] *** raleeha <raleeha!~knut@x55b39900.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[06:07:24] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@179.7.106.197> has joined #manjaro[06:10:44] <manjaro-kde5-> Hola?[06:11:44] <ajfried22> aloha manjaro-kde5-[06:12:17] *** raleeha <raleeha!~knut@x55b39900.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:14:44] <manjaro-kde5-> Alguien me puede ayudar?[06:14:55] <manjaro-kde5-> Quiero instalar Mysql Worckbench[06:15:33] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@cpe-23-240-253-20.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[06:16:10] *** rnd1 <rnd1!~manjaro@89.123.235.198> has joined #manjaro[06:17:28] <ajfried22> es que en los repositorios de aire o Manjaro? @manjaro-kde5-[06:17:55] <rnd1> Hello. Please tell me how do I avoid Calamares resizing my existing partition: http://i.imgur.com/S2TxT9x.png[06:17:55] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/myPPxY] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[06:18:30] <ajfried22> rnd1, do a manual partioning install[06:18:41] <rnd1> ajfried22, how?[06:19:06] <rnd1> ajfried22, is there a guide somewhere? I presume this means not using Calamares[06:19:31] <rnd1> ajfried22, otherwise, I am on Calamares manual partitioning option which does this[06:19:55] <ajfried22> go back to partitioning and there should be three options[06:19:57] <rnd1> the problem is that I have to tell it to use THAT partition as / which I do[06:20:29] <rnd1> ajfried22, yes, then we are talking about the same option, I am in the Manual Partitioning option, and this option does this resizing... sadly[06:20:52] <ajfried22> you should use gparted first to make your desired sizes then install this way[06:21:11] <rnd1> ajfried22, I used cfdisk hmm[06:21:36] <rnd1> ajfried22, I'll try parted, thanks![06:24:07] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@179.7.106.197> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[06:26:00] <manjaro-kde5--> \nick dr`venom[06:26:15] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@cpe-23-240-253-20.socal.res.rr.com> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[06:31:11] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.250.143.249> has joined #manjaro[06:31:35] *** smeefonater <smeefonater!~deathonat@cpe-69-203-208-219.nyc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:32:03] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[06:37:13] *** edge226 <edge226!~quassel@unaffiliated/edge226> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:38:09] <rnd1> ajfried22, I used parted but Calamares still wants to resize it(to the same size, of course, as seen in the screenshot)[06:38:43] <ajfried22> then try using thus[06:38:44] *** manolop3 <manolop3!~manu@89.140.42.248.static.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[06:38:51] <rnd1> ok[06:41:02] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[06:41:12] <ajfried22> ok create three partitions root home and swap and set their sizes. make sure to click apply in parted so that it actually creates it. then try[06:42:25] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p50818C81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[06:43:40] <rnd1> Thus is stuck at System Check screen...[06:43:41] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: mmh mmh bang bang boom boom pop pop)[06:44:27] <rnd1> wait which parted did you mean? I used the cmd line parted earlier...[06:44:40] <ajfried22> use gparted[06:45:08] <ajfried22> gui's are quite helpful in this case[06:48:24] <rnd1> tried using gparted but the whole gparted window disappeared whilst trying to delete a partition[06:49:01] <ajfried22> you cant have the drives mounted[06:49:16] <rnd1> there were not[06:49:38] <ajfried22> do you have the latest iso? maybe it is corrupted?[06:50:49] <ajfried22> maybe just let calamares do its thing and you can resize after you instal[06:50:52] <ajfried22> l[06:51:02] <rnd1> i just recreated the gparted disappearing:[06:51:05] <rnd1> ERROR:OperationDelete.cc:41:virtual GParted::Partition& GParted::OperationDelete::get_partition_new(): assertion failed: (false)[06:51:48] <rnd1> /usr/bin/gparted: line 193: 6050 Aborted (core dumped) $BASE_CMD[06:52:49] <rnd1> ajfried22, the thing is, last time I installed Manjaro, i let Calamares resize, and the start/end sectors of the partition after resize were different... (I diff-ed)[06:53:23] <rnd1> anyway, thanks for your help ajfried22[06:56:26] <rnd1> here's the gparted stack if anyone cares ever: http://i.imgur.com/kGsxGEc.png[06:56:26] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/hgiC8L] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[06:57:39] <rnd1> can't be seen to the right is: (libglibmm-2.4.so.1)[06:58:02] *** rnd1 <rnd1!~manjaro@89.123.235.198> has quit IRC (Quit: anyway, I'm out... brb suiciding:)[07:10:01] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.250.143.249> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:14:11] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has joined #manjaro[07:15:34] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p579911A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[07:29:35] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@138.210.15.117> has joined #manjaro[07:30:03] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@82.221.107.187.adsl.inet-telecom.org> has joined #manjaro[07:30:41] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as Palmoliver[07:32:59] <manjaroCinnamon1> Installing Manjaro Cinnamon(obviously from the default name) but looks like it's locking up for the second time at 27% at the unpackfs to my 32 GB flash drive...patience is a virtue, but I've never been virtuous[07:33:46] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[07:34:55] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@138.210.15.117> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:35:58] *** Pablo <Pablo!~Pablo@177.40.48.87> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[07:36:12] *** Pablo <Pablo!~Pablo@201.86.1.221.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has joined #manjaro[07:37:44] <ajfried22> known bug I mean feature[07:38:17] *** Palmoliver is now known as paras3nse[07:43:44] *** Attunga <Attunga!~Attunga@124-171-194-80.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[07:44:51] *** keybyte <keybyte!~byte@ppp121-45-247-150.lns20.per4.internode.on.net> has joined #manjaro[07:46:03] *** paras3nse is now known as Palmoliver[07:49:40] *** tobinski___ <tobinski___!~tobinski@p5DE0CB42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[07:51:07] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has joined #manjaro[07:51:58] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[07:51:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[07:53:03] *** tobinski_ <tobinski_!~tobinski@p5DE0CB42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:03:25] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[08:06:13] *** cyberwolf <cyberwolf!~manjaro-k@h95-110-23-145.dyn.bashtel.ru> has joined #manjaro[08:07:55] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[08:16:18] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p579911A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:18:46] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #manjaro[08:22:37] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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<nielsk!nielsk@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-whkuitnzqquvurdg> has joined #manjaro[10:24:10] <vexare> tear-free into xorg conf is pretty much the first thing you gotta do when using intel igpu ever since sandy bridge[10:24:19] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/cspack> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:26:56] *** cyanoz <cyanoz!~manjaro@2600:8801:2104:5d00::2> has joined #manjaro[10:26:59] <cyanoz> Hello?[10:27:13] <cyanoz> im having some trouble with the drivers in manjaro 16 xfce[10:27:31] <ajfried22> use mhwd[10:27:44] <cyanoz> whenever i switch to the open source driver the computer becomes unusable[10:27:54] <cyanoz> i am reinstalling manjaro as i speak[10:28:26] <Lowl3v3l> reinstalling usually is the wrong way of fixing things.[10:28:36] <Lowl3v3l> and then just dont use the free drivers?[10:28:56] <cyanoz> i would just use nomodeset in the bootloader but the bootloader fucked up too[10:29:28] <cyanoz> i need to use the opensource driver because that is the only one thats works with steam for me[10:29:42] <cyanoz> and thats the one i was using when i was running linux mint[10:30:40] <cyanoz> ounce this install finishes ill come back on irc and see if i can get the intel driver working[10:30:44] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[10:30:53] <cyanoz> with steam[10:31:43] <cyanoz> anybody else get the same issue when switching to open source GPU drivers?[10:32:06] <cyanoz> and do you have to uninstall the old driver ounce the new one is installed?[10:32:36] *** manjaro-web|1014 <manjaro-web|1014!0549c677@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.73.198.119> has joined #manjaro[10:32:42] <cyanoz> hello?[10:33:05] *** cyanoz <cyanoz!~manjaro@2600:8801:2104:5d00::2> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:33:49] <manjaro-web|1014> helle[10:34:15] <lixa> I installed an ati driver once. It messed up a web browser.[10:34:51] <lixa> a mixed bag for every one[10:35:42] *** manjaro-web|1014 <manjaro-web|1014!0549c677@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.73.198.119> has left #manjaro[10:36:34] *** cyanoz <cyanoz!~cyanoz@2600:8801:2104:5d00::1> has joined #manjaro[10:36:42] <cyanoz> hello[10:36:44] <cyanoz> ?[10:37:08] *** leachim6 <leachim6!~leachim6@neptune.cosmicforge.org> has joined #manjaro[10:37:12] <leachim6> hola[10:37:15] <leachim6> how's it going?[10:37:32] <cyanoz> hi. well the OS works but the bootloader is screwed up[10:38:11] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.68.1.211> has joined #manjaro[10:38:36] <cyanoz> leachim6, do you have any idea why the bootloader would be having GPU driver problems?[10:39:54] <leachim6> what kind of system are you running it on[10:40:01] *** bolvary <bolvary!~Thunderbi@adsl-62-167-57-4.adslplus.ch> has joined #manjaro[10:40:09] <leachim6> I've never had a problem with it, but I know the bootloader can be setup to use different gfx modes[10:40:23] <cyanoz> leachim6, Laptop. The GPU is a Intel 965GM[10:40:38] <leachim6> ah, I remember something about this specifically[10:40:40] <leachim6> hang on[10:40:57] <cyanoz> leachim6, The bootloader graphics is completely fucked up till you can only make out the logo but thats it[10:41:26] <cyanoz> leachim6, and if i switch the the open source driver the same problems in the bootloader find its way into the entire OS[10:42:03] <cyanoz> leachim6, Which sucks because i really want to use the open source driver over the intel driver[10:42:15] <leachim6> I'd stick with the intel driver[10:43:03] <cyanoz> leachim6, If i am going to stick with the proprietary driver i need the bootloader gfx fixed at least so it is usable and i need openGL working[10:43:21] <leachim6> yeah this is definitely out of my real of expertise[10:43:51] <cyanoz> do you know anybody that could help? im used to the helpfullness of the Linux Mint chatroom[10:43:57] <cyanoz> barely anybody here[10:44:48] <vexare> err[10:44:51] <vexare> what proprietary[10:44:58] <vexare> intel has an open source driver[10:44:58] <cyanoz> leachim6, do you at least know a way i can boot into a type of "failsafe"mode so i can reset graphics settings if it fucks up again[10:45:23] <cyanoz> vexare, its open source but not GNU open source. nor is it a very good driver[10:45:28] <leachim6> this is my first time here[10:47:39] <cyanoz> i think the open source driver is not the problem. i think the mesa driver pulls GFX settings from the bootloader and attemps to use those while the intel one uses what it wants regardless ofthe bootloader. so if i could get the bootloader working then i could most likely use the mesa driver without a problem. i have never uses any other bootloader except for grub and LILO so i do not nothow to configure them from the OS[10:48:28] <leachim6> "barely anybody here" there's over 150 people :P[10:48:47] <cyanoz> leachim6, they are all just AFKing and or logging[10:48:59] <leachim6> also consider that it is nighttime in the USA[10:49:10] <Strit_Laptop> And work hours in the EU.[10:49:10] <leachim6> 3:48AM here currently[10:49:36] <leachim6> manjaro installed the virtualbox extensions automatically[10:49:36] <cyanoz> so this channel is normally a lot more active?[10:49:38] <leachim6> that's pretty cool[10:49:42] <leachim6> i'd bet so[10:50:47] <cyanoz> one more thing. The Manjaro's wiki encrytion keys are expired on my end. is it the ssame for everybody? someone try going to wiki.manjaro.org[10:51:19] <cyanoz> is Manjaro's wiki hacked or did they just forget to update their keys?[10:51:26] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[10:51:27] <leachim6> looks like it expired 2 months ago[10:51:31] <leachim6> whoops.[10:51:32] <Strit_Laptop> this channel is a lot more active like 6 hours from now.[10:52:04] <cyanoz> i think they were hacked because 2 months is a long time to leave your keys borken[10:52:21] <anonkun> nah[10:52:29] <anonkun> they just forget to renew the SSL and stuff all the time[10:52:31] <leachim6> yeah they should probably fix that[10:52:54] <leachim6> is pacman supposed to be really slow compared to apt/yum or is it my setup?[10:53:34] <anonkun> I find it quicker[10:53:36] <Strit_Laptop> leachim6, probably your setup[10:53:41] <ajfried22> update mirrors[10:53:41] <anonkun> ^[10:53:42] <leachim6> yeah I figured so[10:53:47] <leachim6> yeah let me try that[10:53:47] <cyanoz> leachim6, I dont know. pacman actully is really fast for me faster then DEB. but the downloads are super super super slow. maybe its their repo servers[10:53:57] <leachim6> I think I'm pulling from brazillian mirrors[10:54:07] <anonkun> or it could be that pacman only updates "4" things whereas apts gives you pages worth of mirrors if you are on ubuntu[10:54:13] <anonkun> thus giving the illusion that it's faster[10:54:13] <Strit_Laptop> the SSL thing, is because the only one of the team with access to that part of the server, is not easy to get a hold of, which is why they are changing servers etc.[10:54:28] <anonkun> oh[10:54:33] <anonkun> manjaro team is getting new servers?[10:54:37] <leachim6> the best kind of admin, one who doesn't answer their phone -_-[10:54:51] <Strit_Laptop> anonkun, the forum moved a few months ago, they are still contemplating how to do the wiki,.[10:54:53] <cyanoz> how can i change the pacman mirrors? is their a GUI or where are the config files?[10:55:11] <Strit_Laptop> cyanoz, you can re-rank the mirrors with "sudo pacman-mirrors -g"[10:55:17] <anonkun> Strit_Laptop: I hope they can do it for the mirrors too, because a few things dont work because they cannot change stuff upstream[10:55:28] <leachim6> yeah I'm running it now[10:55:39] <leachim6> not sure why it's trying every country but USA first[10:55:50] <leachim6> oh, it's alphabetical, duh[10:56:13] <anonkun> is JWM capable of tiling?[10:56:19] <leachim6> yes[10:56:28] <leachim6> super+arrow-keys[10:56:34] <anonkun> auto tiling[10:56:35] <leachim6> not auto tiling[10:56:37] <anonkun> ah[10:56:38] <leachim6> no[10:56:41] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:56:44] <leachim6> well, not as far as I know[10:56:49] <cyanoz> Strit_Laptop, leachim6 Is it testing sped by ping? thats a really bad way to test repo speed. it should test download speed not latency[10:56:50] <leachim6> that could be bad info[10:57:00] <anonkun> is it easy to config? I dont know any languages, so I use i3[10:57:17] <leachim6> cyanoz: haha, why are you acting like I run this place, you've literally been in this channel the same time as me[10:57:23] <leachim6> I just downloaded manjaro for the first time[10:57:46] <cyanoz> leachim6, ive only run manjaro for about an hour[10:57:48] <leachim6> anonkun: yeah it's xml[10:57:51] <leachim6> cyanoz: then you win[10:58:01] <leachim6> my uptime is 59 minutes :P[10:58:12] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-654-1-433-15.w83-205.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:58:29] <leachim6> it's really slick that all of the vbox stuff is setup and configured by default[10:58:36] <leachim6> and the installation was so fast[10:58:47] *** taij33n <taij33n!z81ylicfT3@volans.uberspace.de> has joined #manjaro[10:59:01] <leachim6> not sure what mirror I was using before, but this new one is blazing fast[10:59:03] <cyanoz> Does anyone know what bootloader manjaro 16 uses and where the config files are?[10:59:35] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[11:00:15] <cyanoz> leachim6, the new mirror im using is faster but still kinda slow[11:00:37] <leachim6> cyanoz: http://l1nx.pw/1[11:00:39] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/1pLNKY] (link was unresponsive: http://l1nx.pw/1)[11:01:01] <cyanoz> maybe i should host a manjaro repo mirror. there does not seem to be a very fast US west coast mirror[11:01:42] <cyanoz> leachim6, I can not resolve that to an IP[11:01:59] <anonkun> did you do pacman-mirrors -g?[11:02:08] <cyanoz> anonkun, yes[11:02:50] <cyanoz> anonkun, The new mirror is fast enough for now but not as fast as id like[11:03:31] <leachim6> resolve what?[11:03:44] <cyanoz> leachim6, the link you sent me[11:04:02] <leachim6> weird, works for me[11:04:14] <leachim6> from 2 different states[11:04:47] <cyanoz> WTF where is nslookup?[11:04:55] <cyanoz> and whois[11:05:00] <cyanoz> and mtr[11:05:09] <cyanoz> and pin6[11:05:15] <cyanoz> *ping6[11:05:59] <leachim6> install them[11:06:19] <leachim6> pacman -Sy net-tools[11:06:47] <cyanoz> leachim6, they are already installed[11:07:38] <cyanoz> leachim6, but they are not included in the net-tools package nor the inet-tools package[11:08:41] <Strit_Laptop> cyanoz, the default bootloader of 16.06 is Grub2 and it's configs are at /boot/grub/grub.cfg[11:08:54] <cyanoz> Strit_Laptop, thank you[11:10:52] <Strit_Laptop> to check mirror status you can check out repo.manjaro.org. It does not list the speeds of them, but it does give a hint of how active they are.[11:13:53] <leachim6> that's weird...[11:13:57] <leachim6> what package IS nslookup in[11:14:06] <cyanoz> ikr[11:14:12] <leachim6> dnsutils[11:14:36] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[11:14:56] <cyanoz> leachim6, ill i see are bind-tools[11:15:05] <cyanoz> not sure if thats the same thing[11:15:12] <leachim6> no, I mean the package is called dnsutils[11:15:15] <leachim6> pacman -Sy dnsutils[11:15:34] <leachim6> also you might find this page helpful if you're used to linux mint[11:15:36] <leachim6> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta[11:15:36] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/jhCqHt] Pacman/Rosetta - ArchWiki[11:15:46] <leachim6> someone really needs to fix that bot[11:16:31] <cyanoz> i thought Manjaro was supposed to be polished. ive found at least 4 bugs within 1 hour of use[11:17:49] <leachim6> you might find this page helpful cyanoz http://l1nx.pw/2[11:17:52] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/mCqyuL] How to Upgrade to Windows 10 - Microsoft[11:18:46] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: the mac is asleep)[11:18:50] <Strit_Laptop> leachim6, what's wrong with the bot? It seems to be working...[11:19:06] <leachim6> yeah I just realized it failed on the wiki because of the ssl cert[11:19:46] <Strit_Laptop> The archwiki one worked fine. :)[11:19:47] <cyanoz> well i figured out the ping6 problem. they new version of ping implements ipv6 into it without another tools[11:19:58] <cyanoz> just use ping -6 instead of ping6[11:20:13] <leachim6> oh...[11:20:16] <leachim6> I've been up too long[11:20:20] <leachim6> FatalException: is a person[11:20:29] <leachim6> it's not an actual FatalException -_-[11:20:57] <Strit_Laptop> FatalException is the bot. Not an error. :P[11:21:05] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.68.1.211> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:23:04] <cyanoz> brb[11:23:19] *** cyanoz <cyanoz!~cyanoz@2600:8801:2104:5d00::1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:23:50] <leachim6> geez, that guy[11:23:54] *** Sufixx <Sufixx!~sufixx@213.231.192.102> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[11:23:55] <leachim6> didn't even get my cheeky windows joke[11:24:05] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[11:24:34] <Strit_Laptop> yeah. :)[11:24:42] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[11:27:05] <leachim6> I think the new jwm version is pretty polished personally[11:31:15] *** s8321414_ <s8321414_!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[11:31:29] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[11:31:57] *** s8321414_ is now known as s8321414[11:32:29] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[11:35:03] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[11:36:00] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[11:36:30] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:38:55] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:43:37] *** cc^guild <cc^guild!~Cybertron@p50818001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:44:11] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[11:44:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[11:45:30] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[11:47:13] *** rigolo <rigolo!~manjaro-k@37.77.120.117> has joined #manjaro[11:48:39] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-188-102-169-164.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[11:50:38] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #manjaro[11:55:29] <anonkun> im trying to run jwm in a virtual box[11:55:30] <anonkun> with no luck[11:55:37] <anonkun> qemu says permission denied[11:55:47] <leachim6> qemu != virtualbox[11:56:01] <leachim6> which one are you using?[11:56:09] <anonkun> it works with gnome boxes[11:56:19] <leachim6> ah, that's KVM[11:56:21] <anonkun> Its an issue with my qemu config I feel[11:56:30] <anonkun> it keeps on saying "permission denied"[11:56:35] <leachim6> try virt-manager instead of boxes, boxes is very limited[11:56:42] <leachim6> I mean...are you running it as root?[11:56:49] <anonkun> I tried both[11:56:51] <anonkun> as sudo and as root[11:56:55] <anonkun> with user="root"[11:57:15] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bgoqjnlkstnldqgv> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[11:57:42] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:57:52] <anonkun> in any case[11:57:58] <anonkun> i'm finding JWM really neat[11:59:18] <Strit_Laptop> Anyone here know how to write python plugins?[11:59:36] <Strit_Laptop> I mean, write a plugin, in python language.[12:02:33] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@eduroam-24-4.eduroam.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has joined #manjaro[12:09:03] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@eduroam-24-4.eduroam.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:12:52] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[12:14:41] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[12:15:49] <leachim6> like for jwm?[12:16:14] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[12:16:39] <Strit_Laptop> leachim6, no, for another python programme.[12:17:12] *** Pablo <Pablo!~Pablo@201.86.1.221.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:19:10] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[12:22:16] <leachim6> you're gonna have to be more specific[12:22:59] *** Sufixx <Sufixx!~sufixx@213.231.192.102> has joined #manjaro[12:23:29] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p54A16D93.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:25:20] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@eduroam-24-4.eduroam.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has joined #manjaro[12:25:32] <Strit_Laptop> I need a specific plugin for griffith. Can't get much more specific than that.[12:26:02] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p579911A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:26:14] <leachim6> oh....kay?[12:26:15] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: the mac is asleep)[12:27:13] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:27:45] <peetaur2> Strit_Laptop: make a file called myplugin.py and enter inside it print("this is a plugin") click save. Done.[12:27:57] <peetaur2> for more than that, you will need to be more specific.[12:28:30] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[12:28:41] <peetaur2> (you can load your plugin somewhere else like this import importlib importlib.import_module("myplugin")[12:29:00] <Strit_Laptop> peetaur2, well yeah. I get that much. What I need is a TMDB.org plugin for Griffith. Google has not turned up any.[12:35:20] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@86.108.65.7> has joined #manjaro[12:38:12] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@spv69-2-78-193-241-101.fbxo.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[12:38:57] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@eduroam-24-4.eduroam.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:40:58] *** Attunga <Attunga!~Attunga@124-171-194-80.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[12:41:00] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[12:43:25] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~otto@ip5b43fe21.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[12:44:41] *** silli <silli!~silli@host238-14-static.223-195-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[12:47:53] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~otto@ip5b43fe21.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:48:59] *** cyanoz <cyanoz!~cyanoz@2600:8801:2104:5d00::1> has joined #manjaro[12:49:03] <cyanoz> Hello[12:49:10] <cyanoz> leachim6, are you there?[12:49:21] <cyanoz> i found out a few things and fixed some things[12:49:35] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@aclr110.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[12:50:02] <cyanoz> to fix grub edit /etc/default/grub and change the line GRUB_GFXMODE[12:50:24] <cyanoz> then edit a boot entry in grub to add nomodeset to the kern params[12:50:41] <cyanoz> then fix your drivers with the manjaro hardware manager[12:50:45] <cyanoz> also to fix steam[12:50:58] <cyanoz> create a shell script that contains this[12:51:01] <cyanoz> LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/$LIB/libgcc_s.so.1 /usr/$LIB/libxcb.so.1 /usr/$LIB/libgpg-error.so' steam[12:52:23] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[12:52:24] <leachim6> good to know[12:52:31] <cyanoz> it seems to me that my GPU has locked out any alt drivers while operating anything above 1280.1024[12:52:52] <cyanoz> it works fine with alternitive drivers below that resolution[12:53:35] <cyanoz> so i set grub to use 1280x1024 then boot linux then linux to load the intel driver then boost the res to 1600x900[12:54:11] <cyanoz> it is some kind of competeter lockout shit[12:54:18] <cyanoz> DO NOT BUY INTEL GPUs[12:54:26] <vexare> lol[12:54:57] <leachim6> intel gpus are excellent for linux[12:55:01] <leachim6> also you can't buy an intel gpu[12:55:16] <vexare> hes trolling[12:55:24] <leachim6> nah bro, he was here earlier[12:55:27] <vexare> otherwise it's worse lol[12:55:30] <leachim6> he's srs[12:56:01] <peetaur2> maybe you can buy another gpu and then remove the shaders and solder in an i7 and it'll be an intel gpu[12:56:28] <cyanoz> well i mean dont buy a motherboard with an itel GPU integrated[12:57:05] <peetaur2> every time I shopped for mobos, I was not looking for low end junk, and never found one I wantd that had it on board, but would want it[12:57:06] <leachim6> vexare: you want some popcorn? I made popcorn[12:57:12] <peetaur2> they seem not to put them in high end boards[12:57:26] <peetaur2> but you own the gpu already... it's in the CPU, so why not support it on the board?[12:57:30] <cyanoz> cuz they are shit[12:57:40] <peetaur2> they are low performance, but for 2d desktop stuff, it's fine[12:57:46] <vexare> intel doesn't integrate gpus into chipset since 2009[12:58:08] <cyanoz> not really. i can barely run firefox on an intel GPU[12:58:23] <cyanoz> vexare, my computer is really old[12:58:31] <peetaur2> I could run firefox on a radeon X300 ... passive cooled gpu from 2003 ... you must have been doing it really wrong[12:58:54] <peetaur2> I ran that gpu on my desktop until they broke X or the kernel or something so it wouldn't run 1080p any more since that card technically doesn't support it ;) but it ran before[12:59:21] <peetaur2> I just turned of the shadowy animation junk (which I do anyway) and it ran fine[13:00:31] <peetaur2> and maybe it was good they broke 1080p on that card because it forced me to learn how to bind drivers differently for my vfio setup, and also there was a game I had that ran really slow on windows, but it ran faster on linux with even a cheaper gpu[13:01:03] <cyanoz> the machine im on is my peice of junk test machine. i do not care about it. Really! I ran out of thermal paste one day nd have been using toothpaste ever since![13:01:04] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@ppp91-122-146-230.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru> has joined #manjaro[13:01:20] <peetaur2> do you seriously use toothpaste on it?[13:01:29] <peetaur2> I would think that would be worse than bubbles of air[13:01:50] <cyanoz> peetaur2, It works better than the paste it came with[13:02:00] <leachim6> can't tell if serious[13:02:02] * leachim6 cringes[13:02:30] <cyanoz> im serious. toothpaste does work. it is a pain to remove ounce you want to replace it but it works great[13:02:30] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-188-102-169-164.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:02:47] <cyanoz> (For a hack)[13:03:29] <peetaur2> apparently the internets agree that toothpaste works but dries up quickly[13:04:12] *** rigolo <rigolo!~manjaro-k@37.77.120.117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:04:13] <cyanoz> i notice that it becomes slightly more conductive if the temp is over 130F[13:04:31] <cyanoz> strange. you would think it would be less conductive at higher temps[13:05:08] <peetaur2> gasses are less conductive at high temp... is that true for solids like dried up toothpaste?[13:05:38] <cyanoz> peetaur2, idk maybe my sensors just get inaccurate at certain temps[13:07:59] <cyanoz> but SparkleFresh toothpaste runs about 17 degrees F cooler than stock Dell Thermal paste[13:08:10] <cyanoz> its pretty halarius[13:09:19] <peetaur2> even after a few months of heavy usage?[13:09:21] <peetaur2> I doubt it[13:09:30] <peetaur2> and I find stock paste is always junk[13:09:42] <peetaur2> in the old days with single cores, it seemed great, but nowadays it doesn't cut it[13:09:51] <cyanoz> ive only used the toothpaste hack for a few days[13:09:52] <peetaur2> either dries up fast or just runs hot[13:10:11] <cyanoz> i dont think it will last more than a week[13:10:16] <cyanoz> but well see![13:10:39] <cyanoz> when the toothpaste runs its course ill just put some artic silver 5 on it[13:11:45] <cyanoz> but it is not drying fast[13:12:07] <cyanoz> maybe thats because my computer is almost always on. maybe it is the tmp cycling that dries it faster[13:13:34] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@212.220.105.237> has joined #manjaro[13:14:33] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@spv69-2-78-193-241-101.fbxo.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:16:53] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@212.220.105.237> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:23:21] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[13:26:01] <cyanoz> a lot of people using ipv6 now compared to 3 years ago[13:34:21] *** meta-system <meta-system!~meta-syst@2a01:cb18:12d:4900:250:b6ff:fe0e:23bb> has joined #manjaro[13:36:51] *** bad_1 <bad_1!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[13:38:35] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Disconnected by 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I can't find it. or maybe some will know, how to add a second virtual desktop to lxqt?[14:35:11] <peetaur2> mike-zal: no idea but if lxqt can't do it, use xrandr[14:35:32] <peetaur2> er I assumed you meant more monitors[14:35:38] <peetaur2> and now I think not[14:36:56] <mike-zal> no, just virtual desktops on one monitor[14:37:17] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[14:37:26] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-13028.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[14:37:34] <mike-zal> never need this before and now then I do, I can't see it. I added widged to the panel but it shows only 1 and clicking on it brings nothing[14:38:40] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@ub-61-160.hirnport.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has joined #manjaro[14:38:42] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[14:38:58] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Quit: later)[14:39:41] <mike-zal> so basically, I need an option to turn off second destop. one would assume that will be in system settings but no... :([14:40:17] *** Sufixx is now known as Sufixx_[14:40:48] *** Sufixx_ is now known as Sufixx[14:41:46] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[14:42:28] <VoidFox> turn off a second desktop or add a virtual desktop? r u using openbox as wm?[14:45:14] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[14:45:50] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:46:38] *** chshbh <chshbh!~Avinash@146.196.35.132> has joined #manjaro[14:47:32] <mike-zal> VoidFox: ah, you tiped me on on solution![14:47:42] <mike-zal> I'm using kwin and in kde I have only one desktop[14:47:53] <mike-zal> that's probably it. will change it[14:48:06] *** rel <rel!~rel@zux221-211-115.adsl.green.ch> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:49:11] <mike-zal> VoidFox: yeap, that's it! Now it's working :)[14:49:32] <mike-zal> forgot it's controlled by wm[14:49:32] <VoidFox> gj ^^[14:50:13] <VoidFox> one of the most common mistakes in linux i bet[14:50:26] <VoidFox> whos responsible for what[14:51:02] <VoidFox> kwin+lxqt.. havnt heard of that before... good luck xD[14:51:04] <mike-zal> yeap. it's sometimes confusing but I'll get hang on that... in a couple of years ;)[14:51:30] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[14:51:34] <mike-zal> kwin and kwin is the perfect match imo. works perfectly[14:51:40] <mike-zal> ups, kwin and lxqt[14:52:09] <mike-zal> kwin is anyway adjusted for qt environment so...[14:53:12] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[14:53:28] <VoidFox> I'm more comfortable with gnome/gtk.. but ill have to take a look at K again soon[14:53:31] <mike-zal> what's funny, on lxqt official site, on screenshots it looks like they're using kwin too, unless it's a plasma window dectoration, but somehow it looks too perfectly like real kwin to me. I tried various decorations and they weren't exactly the real deal.[14:53:41] <mike-zal> I use gnome too[14:53:42] <VoidFox> have heard good things since plasma came out[14:54:42] <mike-zal> well, plasma works fine on some hardware while on others may cause some troubles so that's a roullete. but the project matured and shouldn't cause more troubles. for me it's no less stable then gnome.[14:54:44] *** Sufixx is now known as highwind[14:54:45] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@47.62.47.228> has joined #manjaro[14:55:04] *** highwind is now known as Sufixx[14:55:34] <mike-zal> basically, I use kde mostly, sometimes I switch to gnome and occasionally when I need resource efficiency, I change to lxqt.[14:56:10] *** Dr_Ecstasy <Dr_Ecstasy!~manjaro-j@47.62.47.228> has joined #manjaro[14:56:10] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@47.62.47.228> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:56:15] *** Dr_Ecstasy <Dr_Ecstasy!~manjaro-j@47.62.47.228> has left #manjaro[14:56:17] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:56:29] <VoidFox> lol.. I've been mainly on xfce for years now[14:56:40] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #manjaro[14:57:00] <mike-zal> somehow I can't digest xfce. tried many times and didn't like it through and through[14:57:06] <VoidFox> spend 1-2 weeks with i3/awesome/kde and many others, but never very long[14:57:50] <mike-zal> I liked i3 but for daily usage I prefer none-tiling wm, but if I was programmer, i3 would be perfect.[14:58:57] <mike-zal> xfce can be redone so it could look more to my liking but somehow it feels off, maybe because I have to change too many things, almost everything about it.[14:59:26] <mike-zal> so if I want everything different, then why not use simply different DE?[14:59:43] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@ip-89-102-122-38.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[14:59:59] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@ip-89-102-122-38.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:00:52] <VoidFox> ya, but it takes more than 1-2 weeks to truly get used to any of them[15:01:01] <VoidFox> i just dont have the patience for it[15:01:40] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[15:02:45] <VoidFox> i know what i can do with xfce.. but with i3... dont know half of what could be possible with proper configuration[15:03:40] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[15:05:22] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@ppp91-122-146-230.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[15:05:26] <mike-zal> well, xfce is easy right on the start and very intuitive, probablt the most of all DEs. in i3 I got used to shortcuts in a few minutes, they're very intuitive so I had no trouble woking on it. as to configuration, I played with it and it can be adjusted nicely, but it's all modification of text files so it's borring and time consuming (constant online research), although not so hard[15:05:51] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[15:07:04] <mike-zal> besides, i3 being rigorous as to windows, creates clarity and order and that's what I liked about it. on normal desktops, I sometimes can get lost among many windows. it's easy to switch to the right one but sill, I never remeber where they are so I just browse one by one.[15:07:15] <VoidFox> https://github.com/electro7/dotfiles/tree/master/.i3/lemonbar[15:07:17] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Xa1YBB] dotfiles/.i3/lemonbar at master · electro7/dotfiles · GitHub[15:07:48] <VoidFox> been eyeing this for a while now.. might have to throw a coin... try this or plasma ^^[15:09:19] <mike-zal> I chaned desktop for icons, that's quite nice look[15:10:09] <mike-zal> if you are using xfce for so long and actually like it, I predict you won't like plasma much. so far I noticed that people who like xfce dislike kde or plasma.[15:11:01] <VoidFox> wouldnt say dislike.. im often impressed by the looks.. but never really spend enough time with it to get comfortable[15:11:30] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@ub-61-160.hirnport.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:11:37] <mike-zal> as to lxqt, here are the screens on their official site that looks like lxqt on kwin (exactly like on mine desktop) http://lxqt.org/images/screenshots/dark.png[15:11:39] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/1ydXrP] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[15:12:39] <mike-zal> also, panel is partially transparent and that can be done only with some advanced wm like kwin, not with openbox, so that's another clue that they're using kwin too :P[15:13:58] <mike-zal> in my opinion, lxqt is like a plasma's smaller brother. not so full in options, even less then most standard desktops, but with kwin it looks very modern.[15:15:55] <VoidFox> think last time i tried lxqt it came with openbox or some other lighter wm[15:16:14] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[15:17:12] <VoidFox> all i remember about kwin is that some tiling-script was broken[15:17:27] <VoidFox> been a while since ive used it[15:17:41] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@aclr110.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:21:55] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@aclr110.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:22:47] <mike-zal> had to reboot. gnome's screen utility seems to crash lqxt. should have use kde verson...[15:23:05] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:24:21] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[15:27:00] <VoidFox> wb[15:28:13] <VoidFox> kde and gnome.. never going to put both on my system ever again[15:28:33] <VoidFox> everytime ive done it something went wrong[15:29:01] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:30:57] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: the mac is asleep)[15:32:30] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has 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aw.. my idea is far more fun xD[15:39:32] <mike-zal> although, I would gladly god rid of nautilius and use dolphin instead. I can't imagine that they name this horror nautilius a file manager. it's so options void that's disturbing.[15:40:13] <VoidFox> lol[15:40:42] <VoidFox> dolphin is a good reason to get kde[15:40:59] <mike-zal> nautilius is probably the worst file manger on linux. all others are beating it easily.[15:41:24] <VoidFox> pcmanfm is the worst[15:41:58] <mike-zal> well, I use mostly krusader thou, but dolphin too (for graphic files mostly).[15:42:13] <mike-zal> hmm... does pacmanfm has two panel view?[15:42:18] <VoidFox> nautilus & nemo... there are some patched versions that are halfway alright[15:42:37] <mike-zal> nemo is good, nautilius is a degenerate.[15:42:38] <VoidFox> dont know and dont think so..[15:43:52] <VoidFox> on thursday i get a new internet connection... 100mbit cable[15:44:10] <mike-zal> I can't be sure but I tested pacmanfm a while ago and it had two panel view, so it's stil better then nautilus[15:44:35] <mike-zal> nice[15:44:44] <VoidFox> think then ill get myself linuxfromscratch... and install i3 + w3m + ranger.. hardcore console linux ^^[15:45:33] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ldxyovqhlsuuaaxn> has joined #manjaro[15:45:39] <VoidFox> ranger can use a w3m plugin that can show images on the terminal.. really curious about that[15:46:03] <mike-zal> ranger? not familiar with that one, in linux of course...[15:46:28] <mike-zal> but if it's like browser on terminal, then it's not impressive ;P[15:47:03] <VoidFox> filebrowser on terminal.. but with image previews[15:47:07] <mike-zal> I think you will install your favourite DE eventually :)[15:47:56] <VoidFox> thats why i said ill install it on linuxfromscratch.. after a weekend it´ll get deleted ^^[15:48:05] <VoidFox> https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo-extensions[15:48:07] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/eyxoQW] GitHub - linuxmint/nemo-extensions[15:48:31] <VoidFox> works in nautilus too, and many have to be fixed, but its a helpful collection[15:49:34] *** PMunch 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Google-Suche[15:55:34] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[15:55:55] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[15:56:01] <VoidFox> this is it.. good collection of scripts for everything[15:58:09] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has quit IRC (Quit: Gonna go ... see later)[15:58:57] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[15:59:12] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:59:17] <mike-zal> I know nemo from mint, so there two panel view was out of the box.[15:59:39] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #manjaro[16:00:40] <VoidFox> please tell me the background is your own from a holiday[16:00:57] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:00:58] <VoidFox> looks like an awesome location[16:02:11] <mike-zal> it's probaly maledives from look of it[16:02:15] <mike-zal> 99%[16:02:42] <mike-zal> but, no, I was never there, yet ;)[16:04:14] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:04:20] <mike-zal> thanks for the scrip pack[16:04:58] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[16:08:03] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.68.1.211> has joined #manjaro[16:11:17] *** mohsen_ <mohsen_!~mohsen@5.121.89.39> has joined #manjaro[16:14:45] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: the mac is asleep)[16:14:51] *** mohsen_ <mohsen_!~mohsen@5.121.89.39> has left #manjaro[16:15:30] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p579911A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[16:21:50] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[16:22:49] <mike-zal> VoidFox: from what I saw, in new mint they change from gnomes image program to forked one, the gnome program looks doesn't suit to mint desktop and the new one is identical minus the gniome-window decoration[16:24:18] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p579911A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:26:31] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[16:27:02] *** shuman <shuman!~shuman@d156-119.icpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[16:34:17] *** WINow <WINow!a8a75e54@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.168.167.94.84> has joined #manjaro[16:34:23] <WINow> yo[16:34:24] *** calacalo <calacalo!~manjaro-k@123.246.89.79.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[16:34:59] <WINow> yo PMunch zero-ghost[16:35:07] <PMunch> Hi[16:35:12] <WINow> sup?[16:36:12] *** chshbh <chshbh!~Avinash@146.196.35.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:36:15] <PMunch> Working on cross platform compilation of SDL using the Nim programming language[16:36:33] <WINow> ok xd[16:37:21] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[16:39:31] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.81> has 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quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:47:01] *** a <a!~bbb@117.195.246.203> has joined #manjaro[17:47:05] <a> hi guys[17:47:14] *** a is now known as joker009[17:47:20] <joker009> hi guys[17:47:22] <mike-zal> hi[17:47:55] <joker009> for arch, i need a /var separate partition but cant figure out even from the partitions arch wiki[17:48:03] <WINow> yo[17:48:06] <joker009> for server. www[17:48:57] <mike-zal> joker009: are you installing arch server?[17:49:04] <joker009> yes[17:49:45] <joker009> lamp, but still mostly its unprofessional not to have a /boot, and /home partition which i always had on ubuntu[17:50:14] <joker009> i like to have a separate boot because of many distros[17:50:21] <mike-zal> I never installed arch server (only ubuntu one) but from what I know, there is no seperate iso for that, that's just arch without X and DE. right? so why not use architect or other scripted installer?[17:50:21] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:50:43] <mike-zal> they have options for creating various partitions[17:51:02] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[17:52:35] *** robin0800 <robin0800!a0fe083d@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[17:53:04] <joker009> pacstrap is bad i think for that. what is architect? mike-zal[17:54:30] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@ti0050a400-0462.bb.online.no> has joined #manjaro[17:55:39] <mike-zal> architect is a scripted arch install. there are also several others as archbang, etc. instead long, complicated arch way, you just use scrpted installer, just like a cli installer on manjaro, which guides you step by step, offering options to choose from[17:56:13] <mike-zal> I also liked: arch-anywhere installer[17:57:47] <mike-zal> anyway, they make arch install easier and quicker. you can skip installing things that are not needed for servers like X or DE[17:59:14] *** mohsen_ <mohsen_!~user6053@5.121.89.39> has joined #manjaro[18:00:28] <mohsen_> hi what is the size of manjaro bspwm iso?[18:02:15] *** shuman <shuman!~shuman@d156-119.icpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: blee)[18:03:01] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[18:04:02] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.185.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:04:17] *** WINow <WINow!a8a75e54@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.168.167.94.84> has left #manjaro[18:04:45] *** shuman <shuman!~shuman@d156-119.icpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[18:07:25] *** tefter <tefter!~bmaxa@178-223-189-78.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:10:13] <mohsen_> I'm on the phone it doesnt show the size of file that is pbeing[18:10:23] <mohsen_> downloaded.[18:11:02] *** operator <operator!~operator@dslb-084-060-056-177.084.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:11:20] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[18:11:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v 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Is it possible to make someting like a taskbar, where it keeps track of your windows?[18:17:17] <operator> (im on jwm edition)[18:17:59] <mohsen_> operator: yes I believr you can.[18:19:46] <operator> i just tested the i3 manjaro that comes with lemonbar out of the box but i cant find anything[18:22:10] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-114-123.as43234.net> has joined #manjaro[18:22:19] *** calacalo <calacalo!~manjaro-k@123.246.89.79.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[18:22:42] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[18:22:54] <mohsen_> operator:this can be helpful:https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lemonbar :[18:22:55] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/CZFWDk] Lemonbar - ArchWiki[18:24:41] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[18:25:47] * Strit_Laptop is watching Sommeren '92 (2015).[18:27:02] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[18:28:14] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> 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<mike-zal> hmm.. didn't have that one. try to use option purge library.[19:21:31] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-vpn1.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:21:45] <mike-zal> with steam there is a complication: it comes with own libs[19:21:54] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[19:22:38] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-vpn1.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has joined #manjaro[19:23:34] <Sufixx> hum, will try to start with ld[19:23:49] *** ace139 <ace139!~ace139@123.63.8.246> has joined #manjaro[19:24:57] <ace139> Is the Manjaro Hardware Detection tool missing in Manjaro 16.06 GNOME edition ?[19:26:59] *** BruceAuyeung <BruceAuyeung!~quassel@140.240.80.50> has joined #manjaro[19:27:29] *** BruceAuyeung <BruceAuyeung!~quassel@140.240.80.50> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:27:44] *** BruceAuyeung <BruceAuyeung!~quassel@140.240.80.50> has joined #manjaro[19:28:14] *** BruceAuyeung 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I have backup from previous install ;P[19:29:11] *** BruceAuyeung <BruceAuyeung!~quassel@140.240.80.50> has joined #manjaro[19:29:25] <mtn> ace139: is manjaro settings installed?[19:29:53] *** ace139_ <ace139_!~ace139@123.63.8.246> has joined #manjaro[19:30:07] *** BruceAuyeung <BruceAuyeung!~quassel@140.240.80.50> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:30:24] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[19:30:29] <ace139> mtn, ya[19:30:50] <mtn> ace139: does it have the hardware section?[19:31:11] <ace139> mtn, oops, found it. silly me. Thanks :)[19:31:20] <mtn> ace139: yw[19:31:31] *** ace139_ <ace139_!~ace139@123.63.8.246> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:33:20] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:35:48] *** calacalo <calacalo!~manjaro-k@123.246.89.79.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[19:37:06] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.156.122> has joined #manjaro[19:37:14] <manjaro-kde5-> hi[19:38:02] <manjaro-kde5-> why my touchpad don't work after liding[19:38:03] <manjaro-kde5-> ?[19:40:53] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-doxbhbwzrcxkznmo> has joined #manjaro[19:40:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[19:40:59] <manjaro-kde5-> I'm using manjaro[19:44:05] *** raleeha <raleeha!~knut@x5ce14297.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[19:44:20] *** manjaro-web|4564 <manjaro-web|4564!6d2b0330@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.43.3.48> has joined #manjaro[19:44:37] <manjaro-web|4564> Hello there[19:47:58] <manjaro-web|4564> is it possible to install Manjaro on a intel RAID 0[19:48:47] *** doooferghost <doooferghost!75c3f6cb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.117.195.246.203> has joined #manjaro[19:49:33] *** Sailor <Sailor!~Sailor@p5DE39EF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:50:19] *** manjaro-web|4564 <manjaro-web|4564!6d2b0330@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.43.3.48> has left #manjaro[19:50:35] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.156.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:51:46] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@LFbn-1-1049-239.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[19:55:27] <doooferghost> manjaro is great and makes arch really easy[19:56:35] <doooferghost> can i know which fonts it uses? for tty and termianl too, is there a good command?[19:57:06] <doooferghost> it has good fonts[19:57:31] <mtn> doooferghost: look in system settings. it should have a fonts section[19:57:46] <mtn> doooferghost: individual apps may use different fonts, as well. look in their settings[19:58:05] <doooferghost> oo no i have just the terminal version of manjaro[19:58:16] <doooferghost> i also like the geeks line, cli[19:58:35] <doooferghost> i have been trying to emulate the same in arch using setfonts[19:58:48] <mtn> doooferghost: perhaps reading the arch wiki would be helpful[19:59:02] <doooferghost> but i like the majaro fonts[19:59:33] <mtn> doooferghost: the arch wiki will teach you how to do things like you are asking about. it applies to most any distro[19:59:54] <doooferghost> in the wiki they just have setfont lat-3 ; latin fonts, i read it, but dont know the syntax for english fonts[20:00:01] <ace139> what can be some good tweaks for the terminal ?[20:00:13] <mtn> ace139: what do you mean by tweaks?[20:00:24] <doooferghost> nonw xfce4 terminal is fairly tweaked[20:00:31] <doooferghost> just use it[20:00:48] <doooferghost> you can change background,fonts,etc in the menu[20:01:30] <ace139> tweaks to work faster and efficiently in terminal.[20:01:39] <ace139> doooferghost, I am using gnome-terminal.[20:01:39] <doooferghost> what??[20:01:47] <doooferghost> gnome is great man[20:01:56] <doooferghost> its great out of the box[20:01:59] <doooferghost> ok...[20:01:59] <mtn> ace139: still don't have any idea what you are asking about. explain[20:02:08] <doooferghost> mtn i think he is troll[20:02:21] <mtn> or a newbie ;)[20:02:55] <ace139> mnt, doooferghost, newbie for sure.[20:03:00] <doooferghost> BTW for setfonts do u know any english fonts that permit size 16?[20:03:03] <ace139> I mean to say extensions like powerline[20:03:28] <doooferghost> the fed command would be great[20:03:35] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-13028.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:05:32] <ace139> I like to get things done from the termminal, trying to learn it. So just curious, what the pro uses to work efficiently in terminal.[20:07:07] <doooferghost> is there a manjaro minimum install with i3, the net-install doesnt have WM i think[20:07:19] <doooferghost> i used xfce version earlier[20:07:51] <mtn> ace139: the terminal is quite efficient to begin with, not sure what you could do to make it more effecient[20:08:13] <doooferghost> ok sorry got it in community editions[20:08:42] <ace139> mnt, so you don't generally use any extension for your terminal ?[20:09:10] <mtn> ace139: no. don't even no what that means ;)[20:09:15] <mtn> no/know[20:09:24] <doooferghost> ace139: manjaro works out of the box,and is already designed for efficientcy and speed unlke ubuntu.[20:09:42] <doooferghost> i am sure ace139 u dont know what u are saying[20:10:03] <doooferghost> linux does not recognize and need extensions[20:10:35] <ace139> I am talking something like this https://github.com/milkbikis/powerline-shell[20:10:38] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/1FfABS] GitHub - milkbikis/powerline-shell: A beautiful and useful prompt for your shell[20:10:46] <ace139> mnt, doooferghost ^^[20:11:01] <mtn> ace139: hey, my nick is mtn, not mnt[20:11:11] <ace139> mtn, sorry[20:12:03] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:12:11] <mtn> ace139: so, basically it just makes it purty? how does that make it more effient?[20:12:59] <mtn> ace139: I doubt very much that "pros" use anything like that[20:13:23] <mtn> ace139: but, you can if you want to![20:13:24] <ace139> mtn, I see[20:13:55] <ace139> Saw some youtube videos using it, so just thought to find some real answers.[20:14:16] <doooferghost> i think he is asking how do i make it look like that , snazzy[20:14:23] <jurislav> ace139: is more about what you prefer. "pros" has to work on many systems, i take it, so they have to work with whatever the standard is everywhere. that would be bash or ksh, i'd say[20:14:57] <jurislav> withou any extensions/shell customizations[20:14:59] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:c97a:d358:acfd:7c80> has joined #manjaro[20:14:59] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:c97a:d358:acfd:7c80> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:15:13] <jurislav> ofcourse, nothing stops them from loading dotfiles everywhere[20:15:14] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE16B8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[20:15:36] <jurislav> unless they're not the only ones to work with root acc[20:16:30] <ace139> jurislav, so it biols down to preferences.[20:16:50] <ace139> doooferghost, I was not talking about the looks. Anyway.[20:17:12] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-114-123.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[20:17:18] <jurislav> mostly.. if you're the only one to work on the account and if you don't have to work on 1000s of servers..[20:17:23] <mtn> ace139: what does it do that makes it better, besides looks?[20:17:27] <doooferghost> ace139: have u tried BSDs? whats your view on that? mtn i love BSD. linux users dont use manual like that with heavy reliance. and the manuals are the ultimate and authoritative source of information[20:18:01] <doooferghost> linux users are trained to ignore the manuals[20:18:22] <jurislav> doooferghost: ^^ good one :)[20:19:08] <jurislav> manual is the last resort if all else failed..[20:19:22] <ace139> doooferghost, nope, havent tried it yet.[20:21:20] <doooferghost> if all else failed. hm looks like u have not tried openbsd jurislav[20:22:25] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[20:22:41] <doooferghost> there are no "HOW to " guides on openBSD. manual is THE first and last resort. i used it to learn vi, which i had difficulty in learning by the linux manual. on openbsd i observe it is of high quality and much more friendly[20:24:27] <doooferghost> you need a certain mindset to use openbsd, and it stills me down and i am able to focus my mind,and enjoy the manuals. BSDs make you think, that's what i admire about it. dont u concur mtn?[20:24:54] <doooferghost> nothing is spoon fed there[20:25:18] <mtn> doooferghost: learning any new os makes you think. nothing special about that[20:25:33] <doooferghost> mtn have u tried bsd?[20:25:33] <mtn> doooferghost: go play with gentoo and see if you learn anything[20:25:40] <doooferghost> openbsd[20:25:48] <mtn> doooferghost: in the past. not my thing[20:26:15] *** zz_MyPictures is now known as MyPictures[20:26:19] <doooferghost> there is nothing to learn by compiling again and again and repetitive process i think[20:26:25] <doooferghost> bsd is very different[20:26:57] <mtn> doooferghost: this is not a bsd channel. do you have any manjaro topic to discuss?[20:27:14] <doooferghost> gentoo turns you into a dumb hard worker, more like a daily wage labourer, and really dumbs you down[20:28:16] <doooferghost> i dont use manjaro. but thinking of trying it , i am dowloading i3 version[20:28:34] <doooferghost> manjaro too dumbs you down, i feel[20:28:45] <doooferghost> everything is spoon fed like children[20:28:54] <mtn> doooferghost: ok, if you have any manjaro questions, let us know[20:29:26] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[20:29:32] <doooferghost> i already asked you. setfont xxx[20:29:41] <doooferghost> for english 16 size[20:29:54] <mtn> doooferghost: and I told you, the arch linux wiki will help you[20:29:55] <doooferghost> but u didnt reply[20:30:00] <doooferghost> or said the wiki[20:30:02] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Quit: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)[20:30:22] <mtn> doooferghost: and what is wrong with reading the wiki? weren't you just going on how cool it is to read man pages?[20:31:06] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[20:31:28] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has joined #manjaro[20:31:40] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> 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<iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[21:55:06] <Manjaro-kde5-Lwr> pacman -S kcalc[21:56:23] *** Manj-1603-Lxqt <Manj-1603-Lxqt!~admin@ip-89-103-129-136.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[21:56:32] <alxndr13> thanks guys :)[21:59:51] *** Manj-1603-Lxqt <Manj-1603-Lxqt!~admin@ip-89-103-129-136.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:00:04] <mckittrick> hello[22:00:18] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:01:25] *** alxndr13 <alxndr13!~alxndr13@HSI-KBW-078-042-082-043.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[22:01:32] <mckittrick> i could need some hardware suggestions for a small tv pc[22:01:33] <mike-zal> bolvary: what do you mean. manjaro net is a manjaro[22:03:10] <bolvary> mike-zal: pxe install. 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How do I set the startup countdown in grub to zero?[22:51:45] <manjaro-web|6395> I just want my manjaro xfce to start as quickly as possible[22:53:28] <ajfried22> grub customizer[22:54:25] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:54:36] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-vpn1.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:56:15] <VoidFox> manjaro-web|6395: add GRUB_FORCE_HIDDEN_MENU="true" to your /etc/default/grub[22:56:36] <VoidFox> then redo the config[22:57:06] <VoidFox> that hides grub... need to press shift to access the menu then[22:57:45] <VoidFox> think it needs an extra script.. better look at arch wiki.. might not work without it[23:00:33] <VoidFox> manjaro-web|6395: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB/Tips_and_tricks#Hide_GRUB_unless_the_Shift_key_is_held_down[23:00:33] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/yITUPu] GRUB/Tips and tricks - ArchWiki[23:02:32] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[23:03:17] <manjaro-web|6395> VoidFox: Thanks! But what do you mean by "then redo the config"?[23:03:33] <ajfried22> update grub[23:04:06] <manjaro-web|6395> ajfried22: sudo update-grub, right?[23:04:19] <ajfried22> yep[23:04:21] <VoidFox> sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg[23:04:27] <ajfried22> ^[23:04:28] <manjaro-web|6395> ajfried22: thx![23:05:21] *** manjaro-web|1419 <manjaro-web|1419!bbac238d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.187.172.35.141> has left #manjaro[23:05:38] <ajfried22> VoidFox, they are the same command iirc[23:07:04] <VoidFox> lol ya... got curios... "cat /usr/bin/update-grub" xDDDDD[23:07:50] <VoidFox> alias g=git[23:08:09] <VoidFox> yes.. we are fucking lazy ;>[23:09:15] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.81> has joined #manjaro[23:09:49] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@172.98.67.37> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[23:10:27] *** mnemonic <mnemonic!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[23:11:11] *** tarok_ <tarok_!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[23:11:15] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@172.98.67.95> has joined #manjaro[23:17:53] *** MyPictures is now known as zz_MyPictures[23:23:28] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.68.1.211> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:25:40] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[23:25:48] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[23:25:55] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[23:26:17] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-92-25-196-89.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:28:05] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p54A16D93.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:29:39] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt <Manj-1604-Lxqt!~manjaro@2a02:8070:a80:8200:225:d3ff:fe7a:a2fb> has joined #manjaro[23:29:55] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt <Manj-1604-Lxqt!~manjaro@2a02:8070:a80:8200:225:d3ff:fe7a:a2fb> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:35:03] *** tix <tix!~tix@176.139.185.179> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:37:04] *** Nyanloutre <Nyanloutre!~paul@ens68-2-78-242-180-212.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[23:37:47] *** Nyanloutre <Nyanloutre!~paul@ens68-2-78-242-180-212.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:37:57] *** Nyanloutre <Nyanloutre!~paul@ens68-2-78-242-180-212.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[23:38:43] <Nyanloutre> hi ![23:39:08] <Nyanloutre> Is there any way to test wayland with plasma ?[23:39:41] *** Sufixx <Sufixx!~sufixx@213.231.192.102> has left #manjaro[23:41:04] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.81> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:43:13] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:43:14] <mike-zal> Nyanloutre: I think there is. I saw some article in arch wiki about it, there are also proper packages in manjaro repo.[23:43:35] <mike-zal> but I don't have details on hand. you should be able to google it easily[23:43:55] <Nyanloutre> Yes I saw the article in arch wiki but wanted to be sure that it work on manjaro[23:43:59] <mike-zal> but from what I saw, it takes to install few packages[23:44:23] <mike-zal> why wouldn't it? after all, those packages are in manjaro repo, not AUR[23:44:45] <Nyanloutre> ok I will try[23:44:53] *** tarok_ <tarok_!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:45:13] <Nyanloutre> see you[23:45:19] <Nyanloutre> thanks for the infos[23:45:21] <mike-zal> I tested only wayland on gnome, because it's installed by default, nothing great. pointer is stuttering so it's not usable.[23:45:36] <Nyanloutre> It's ok I just want to test it[23:45:41] *** Nyanloutre <Nyanloutre!~paul@ens68-2-78-242-180-212.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:45:49] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@aclr110.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:49:55] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[23:50:43] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[23:51:29] *** Delviax13 <Delviax13!~delvia@ool-44c16817.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[23:54:30] *** Nyanloutre <Nyanloutre!~paul@ens68-2-78-242-180-212.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[23:54:44] <Nyanloutre> so it doesn't work[23:54:58] <Nyanloutre> I end up on a blank screen if I try to login[23:59:48] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@ppp91-122-146-230.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)