July 3, 2016 
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July 3, 2016 [00:00:15] <Lowl3v3l> two : there is a magnitude of distros that has especially the user-friendlyness ( whatever that means) as a goal.[00:00:39] <jurislav> i meant from esers' perspective. all the others are either for servers, or unfriendly or rolling-release or non-lts[00:00:47] <Lowl3v3l> three : if those two were the only one or even just significantly better they'd win by a big margin and they dont[00:01:01] <jurislav> define "big margin"[00:01:21] <jurislav> does 300% HPD count as a big margin..?[00:01:36] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[00:01:38] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, wrong. Debian is not especially aimed at servers. Suse isnt. Manjaro isnt. Mageia isnt , Fedora isnt. And thats just others from the top 10[00:01:43] *** glsmaxx_ <glsmaxx_!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[00:01:49] *** bryznasty <bryznasty!~bryz@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[00:01:52] *** glsmaxx_ <glsmaxx_!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:01:54] <Lowl3v3l> 300% HPD than the rest of the top ten?^^[00:02:13] <jurislav> 300% HPD is the difference between mint and most of the top10[00:02:29] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[00:02:51] <Lowl3v3l> not between mint and debian, mint and suse, mint and manjaro or mint and fedora.[00:03:25] <jurislav> debian is way too much LTS and definitely aimed towards desktop users. manjaro is rolling, therefore not good for beginners either. fedora = only 9 mnths support.[00:03:38] <Lowl3v3l> but winning by a big margin would for me mean "being at place 1 and two with some difference to place 3" or sth alike xD[00:03:46] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, debian got branches.[00:04:10] *** manj-1603-Lxde2 <manj-1603-Lxde2!~manjaro@31.6.26.66> has joined #manjaro[00:04:10] *** manj-1603-Lxde2 <manj-1603-Lxde2!~manjaro@31.6.26.66> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:04:16] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, why are rolling release distros bad for beginners? the manjaro folks argue thos are especially good for beginners xD[00:04:18] <jurislav> Lowl3v3l: show me one that has similar user forum as ubuntu does[00:05:13] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, oh you mean a bunch of morons and lobotomized chimps? sry can't. I dont know of any other such accumulation of clueless people apart from windows. But i actually consider it a win that you have a chance of finding good information on debian or other distros.[00:05:46] <jurislav> and reg. HPD, mint ~3000 vs. everything from place 5 lower (~1000 HPD) is pretty much 300% hpd...[00:06:01] *** SubZ3ro <SubZ3ro!~SubZero@152.93.60.94.rev.vodafone.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:06:05] <jurislav> that leaves mint/debian/ubuntu and suse[00:06:23] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, but the demographic is interesting : ubuntu is one of the distros with the highest user fluctuation, somehow incredible amounts of people with some knowledge of linux leave it. I am curious why ;)[00:06:31] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, those and a dozen others.[00:06:42] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:07:12] <jurislav> Lowl3v3l: b/c they learned enough with ubuntu to leave for more advanced distro. that's what makes it good for beginners :)[00:07:31] <Lowl3v3l> but yeah i suppose this is how fanboying works. Instead of debating actual technical problems "many people use it". well duh. many people use M$ and Apple[00:07:33] <jurislav> fluctuation isn't necessary a bad sign, you know..[00:08:06] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, ubuntu is shitty for beginners. Just having a large marketpresence because a company pushes a product doesnt make it good ;)[00:08:27] <jurislav> well, i am not looking for "best distro ever". i am looking for a distro that would be a suitable replacement for m$/apple folks..[00:09:01] <jurislav> you're missing the point. i am not looking for the best distro[00:09:10] <Lowl3v3l> and i already told you the two that by any reasonable authority that hands out certificates are the two considered worthy.[00:09:34] <jurislav> from security perspective, yes[00:09:47] <day|flip> Lowl3v3l, Ubuntu is what gave me a more stable used able computer when I first starting using linux. 8.04... 11.0 opensuse was godly buggy mess for my first linux system I installed[00:10:52] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, nah. from "we want to use stuff for more than 2 years without feature patches that may break stuff" et cetera too.[00:10:54] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has joined #manjaro[00:10:57] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[00:11:02] <Lowl3v3l> day|flip, my first system was debian sarge. good ol days :D[00:11:03] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[00:11:29] <day|flip> what year was that?[00:11:47] <jurislav> oh, one more thing.. debian is way to much after the OSS philosophy, my users don't give a shit about. they wanna watch videos, play youtube songs and mp3s..[00:11:56] <day|flip> since I started back in the fall of 2008[00:12:02] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:12:33] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, debian is not necessarily oss. You just have to opt in to non free stuff.[00:12:39] <jurislav> not spending an evening figuring out how to install the proprietary codecs[00:12:47] <day|flip> an't oss a sound system that shit on linux but better on bsd?[00:12:55] <Lowl3v3l> day|flip, debian sarge was 2005, version 3.1[00:13:00] <jurislav> "you just have to do XY" is way too many times a solution in the linux world[00:13:14] *** MyPictures is now known as zz_MyPictures[00:13:15] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, oh yeah, clicking one button in the installer is really hard.[00:13:37] <jurislav> it's just the fewest time in ubuntu/mint, that's what makes them "best"[00:14:01] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, seriously if thats your argument stick with windows. you dont even have to install it![00:14:03] <day|flip> fewest?[00:14:15] <jurislav> Lowl3v3l: not important it's just one button :) they don't know where the button is :)[00:14:28] <Lowl3v3l> day|flip, yeah obviously an installer with lesser options is better because it takes lesser time ;)[00:14:44] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, the installer specifically got a popup window.[00:15:02] <jurislav> installer that installs averything that users want is best, yes :)[00:15:06] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, my brother could install a working debian when he was 9 in a matter of 30 minutes.[00:15:11] <day|flip> salix os did that. and it only take about 5 to 7 min to install a text base installer[00:15:49] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, either you are trolling or have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. For your sake i hope for the former...[00:16:01] <day|flip> :)[00:16:06] <jurislav> people in my org are a bit old-school.. not so tech-friendly[00:16:50] <jurislav> day|flip: I understand your argument, and if it was for me, yes, i'd go with your advices. but there are others that i have to think of[00:17:34] <day|flip> Lowl3v3l, salix os is what got me to understand linux a bit better. a lack of binary package manager. and learn more on how to install thing your self. you start to understand what your missing reading the text in the terminal[00:17:45] <jurislav> sometimes the best solution isn't the one that is objectively most secure or whatnot, but the one that carries least trouble for BFUs...[00:18:29] <jurislav> that's how windows made it's market share anyway, right..?[00:18:52] <day|flip> ya they did it by stealing[00:18:58] <Lowl3v3l> day|flip, users should do this way more often, usually linux is pretty chatty about things going wrong if you want to listen[00:19:22] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[00:19:24] <jurislav> day|flip: yes, but that's not what users know/give a shit about[00:19:50] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@a89-154-119-110.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[00:19:57] <Lowl3v3l> jurislav, the word you are missing is "idiots", not "users".[00:20:01] <day|flip> jurislav, a user don't know what they want till they try it[00:20:11] <Lowl3v3l> if someone doesnt give a shit about his tools he is an idiot[00:20:45] <jurislav> Lowl3v3l: yes, but I can't call them that :) i just wanna make them stop using windows. at least those who are somewhat willing to do so anyway[00:21:07] <day|flip> like i would love to used more bsd or dragonfly bsd. but lack of nvidia driver is the problem for me[00:21:08] <Lowl3v3l> let them use windows. it fits exactly your use case.[00:21:25] <jurislav> Lowl3v3l: they do give a shit about the tools - they give a shit about whether they do their jobs or not. that what is important.[00:22:20] <jurislav> yes. but I want the second best thing that fits my case :)[00:22:38] <day|flip> windows is what sound like it for you[00:22:49] <day|flip> even if it win 10[00:22:55] <jurislav> yeah, that's the first one...[00:23:13] <day|flip> win 3.0 :)[00:23:18] <day|flip> ^.~[00:23:22] <jurislav> but I wanna educate, so they can start using linux. and that's where the choice lies..[00:23:38] <day|flip> a browser can help with that[00:23:53] <jurislav> with education or with the choice? :)[00:24:41] <day|flip> there cloud base app that you don't need to install a lot stuff for. browser can fit the user if you know where to look for[00:26:00] <day|flip> hell.. my irc that i'm using right now is on the browser.[00:26:01] <jurislav> sorry, it seems like there is a lot of typos in your msg.. not sure what you mean to say[00:26:25] <jurislav> you mean that i should go 100% cloud with our services?[00:26:41] <jurislav> therefore any OS should do?[00:26:49] <jurislav> that's your point?[00:26:55] <day|flip> ya[00:27:11] <jurislav> we're already 100% cloud :)[00:27:24] <jurislav> but guess what..? microsoft office suite :D[00:27:25] <day|flip> who care what system you on. so long that it work and it stable[00:27:45] <jurislav> (and don't come at me with wine)[00:27:46] <day|flip> i don't needed[00:30:22] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[00:30:23] <day|flip> i'm trying to figure why you here again? if you trying to get used to used windows. most of us will care less about[00:30:35] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[00:30:46] <jurislav> ah, the original question was about the DEs :)[00:30:46] <day|flip> get us***[00:30:56] <jurislav> plasma 5, actually[00:31:02] <day|flip> will that move way off topic[00:31:07] <day|flip> :)[00:31:08] <jurislav> didn't mean to start this conversation :)[00:31:24] <jurislav> yep :)[00:31:27] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[00:31:31] <Batch> he humans[00:31:35] <Batch> hi*[00:31:43] <Batch> day|flip \0/[00:31:44] <jurislav> but it was "fruitfull", as my colleagues use to say[00:31:48] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[00:32:11] <day|flip> sup Batch[00:32:29] <Batch> i'm ok day|flip thankyou and you?[00:32:34] <day|flip> I find a new IRC client that I like to used. Been very stable so far[00:32:47] <Batch> how is it called?[00:33:38] <day|flip> Batch, and I finish my lxqt theme that I been working on. It going be for manjaro user. right now. having a hard time finding a background image for sddm theme i'll be working on next[00:33:53] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[00:34:15] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:34:17] <Batch> wow cool man[00:34:30] <day|flip> https://thelounge.github.io/[00:34:31] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/cwJYnm] The Lounge — Self-hosted web IRC client[00:35:02] <day|flip> i'll just have to careful how i open up tabs some times[00:35:47] <Batch> hehe yeah something new need some observation in beginning[00:35:52] <day|flip> https://thelounge.github.io/docs/server/configuration.html scroll down you see the theme for it. im using zunburn[00:35:53] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/5OqcXu] Configuration · The Lounge — Self-hosted web IRC client[00:37:25] <Batch> looks oke man[00:37:40] <day|flip> I like it[00:38:02] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[00:38:10] <day|flip> blink engine browser are being more stable to used. I been using Vivaldi snapshot full time now[00:38:12] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[00:39:30] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:39:55] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:40:07] <Batch> i need to make my routers stable again[00:40:12] <Batch> so many conflicts[00:40:16] <Batch> and failed operating systems[00:40:17] <day|flip> ehhh[00:40:47] * Batch has no moneys for switches[00:43:27] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-140-146.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[00:45:26] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-140-146.baf.movistar.cl> has joined #manjaro[00:45:26] *** gautv <gautv!~manjaro-k@81-66-198-71.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[00:47:53] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[00:50:38] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@a89-154-119-110.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #manjaro[00:51:09] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-140-146.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[00:51:28] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:53:29] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@46.197.149.93> has joined #manjaro[00:56:07] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:03:36] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:99a4:29f4:e031:d711> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:03:39] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:04:46] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[01:10:24] *** sgm_ <sgm_!~sgm@78.96.149.39> has joined #manjaro[01:13:31] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:1851:4558:478d:10f0> has joined #manjaro[01:13:42] *** sgm <sgm!~sgm@78.96.149.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:16:47] *** tulliana <tulliana!~demiray@178.233.235.6> has joined #manjaro[01:16:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tulliana[01:19:16] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-89-5.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[01:20:15] *** sgm_ <sgm_!~sgm@78.96.149.39> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:20:39] *** sgm_ <sgm_!~sgm@78.96.149.39> has joined #manjaro[01:21:09] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:24:40] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@222.101.66.84> has joined #manjaro[01:26:41] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@222.101.66.84> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:29:34] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-088-249.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:34:08] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[01:36:27] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:40:10] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[01:41:44] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:42:14] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[01:43:14] <sgm_> does anyone know if there are issues with the latest manjaro isos and amd r9 380 ? I tried with two different 380 cards, 16.06.1 and the dev build, both can't start X[01:48:46] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ptr-2hj4tbh2njswwksz1zp3yi0j5.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[01:54:29] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@213-229-103-90.static.as29550.net> has joined #manjaro[01:54:35] *** manjaroCinnamon1 is now known as NovaCygni[01:57:27] <Amplificator> sgm_: Check error logs[01:59:02] <Amplificator> But AMD is notirious for sucking in this regard.. their drivers are horible on linux which is why they've even been removed from the Arch repos[01:59:14] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[02:01:26] <sgm_> really, they removed the drivers from the repos? wow[02:01:29] *** NovaCygni <NovaCygni!~Manjarous@213-229-103-90.static.as29550.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[02:01:50] <Amplificator> Yeah, Manjaro is compensating for this by trying to make them available[02:02:10] <Amplificator> That's why you need to look through error logs to see what is going on :)[02:03:01] <sgm_> where should i look ? there's nothing showing up in the screen where X is supposed to be[02:03:25] <Amplificator> Journalctl and dmesg for starters[02:03:39] <Amplificator> Switch tty[02:03:57] *** mesamoo <mesamoo!~dh64@174-21-211-96.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:04:22] <Amplificator> Does it only happen after you attempted to install the fglrx driver or does it also happen with the open source driver?[02:04:31] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:05:19] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@ptr-2hj4tbh2njswwksz1zp3yi0j5.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[02:05:41] <sgm_> it boots fine with the open source one[02:05:56] <sgm_> this is on live iso boot[02:06:14] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@46.197.149.93> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:06:28] <sgm_> i will try tommorow to install with the free driver and install catalyst later on[02:07:06] <Amplificator> Switch tty when booting the fglrx driver and take a look at journalctl or dmesg[02:07:22] <Amplificator> One of those should give you a hint on where to go next[02:08:07] <Amplificator> When it works in the open source driver then it's most likely related to what I wrote; AMD being horrible in this regard.. but give journalctl and dmesg a go when you have time :)[02:08:19] <sgm_> ok thank you[02:09:16] <Amplificator> I'd suggest AMDGPU even[02:09:27] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ptr-2hj4tbh2njswwksz1zp3yi0j5.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:09:47] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ptr-2hj4tbh2njswwksz1zp3yi0j5.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[02:10:22] <Amplificator> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMDGPU[02:10:23] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/qdbj9i] AMDGPU - ArchWiki[02:10:34] <Amplificator> Install is faily simple[02:11:15] <Amplificator> Lots of options for your situation :)[02:14:15] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@ptr-2hj4tbh2njswwksz1zp3yi0j5.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:16:32] *** NovaCygni <NovaCygni!~Manjarous@host-92-4-226-147.as43234.net> has joined #manjaro[02:16:56] *** NovaCygni is now known as Guest25934[02:17:14] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sqplqyxxhiotqckp> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:22:37] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:22:45] <dodgejcr> morning[02:24:56] *** tulliana <tulliana!~demiray@178.233.235.6> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:27:55] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ptr-2hj4tbh2njswwksz1zp3yi0j5.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:31:24] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891837.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:32:08] *** mbahlol <mbahlol!~dhanny@112.215.153.130> has joined #manjaro[02:33:05] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891837.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[02:35:23] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@a89-154-119-110.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #manjaro[02:35:43] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@a89-154-119-110.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[02:38:18] <mbahlol> hi, I'm new to manjaro. I've used Mint before. I've a little problem here. 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- Ask Ubuntu[05:06:33] <bugzbunny> sweet[05:08:11] <day|flip> I was going say. cheek ~/.config or ~/. <--- hidden file in you home folder[05:08:21] <bugzbunny> thanks[05:08:33] <bugzbunny> Some apps store stuff different places[05:08:40] <bugzbunny> I wasn't too sure[05:09:02] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: mmh mmh bang bang boom boom pop pop)[05:09:42] <day|flip> it one of the other for were you find and config files and folders. and it can only be done in /home[05:10:01] <day|flip> maybe cuz it 755[05:10:21] <day|flip> or 777 :)[05:11:00] <day|flip> or you can go crazy and change your home to 666... pure root only[05:11:14] <bugzbunny> day|flip: Yes yes[05:11:25] <bugzbunny> But but..... What folder[05:11:35] <bugzbunny> And what string[05:11:43] <day|flip> chmod[05:11:50] <bugzbunny> chmod ?[05:11:51] <day|flip> i'll brb[05:12:01] <bugzbunny> kkk[05:12:10] <day|flip> in like 30min[05:12:16] <day|flip> getting coffee[05:12:19] <bugzbunny> sure[05:16:29] <bugzbunny> day|flip: I need to find my old Banshee script that I had for Hexcht[05:17:02] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~manjaro@186.194.201.159> has joined #manjaro[05:17:02] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~manjaro@186.194.201.159> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:17:43] *** Zenther <Zenther!~Zenther@unaffiliated/zenther> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:31:02] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[05:31:51] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[05:34:22] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[05:35:31] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[05:35:31] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[05:37:25] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[05:40:26] *** hongliangsam <hongliangsam!~hongliang@223.73.168.54> has joined #manjaro[05:47:50] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:48:14] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[05:48:26] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[05:48:33] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[05:54:13] <dodgejcr> morning[05:54:43] <day|flip> dodgejcr, were are you?[05:55:05] <dodgejcr> central US[05:55:12] <dodgejcr> its 22:54 here :D[05:55:15] <CountryfiedLinux> HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-28-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4210U CPU @ 1.70GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 872MHz ** RAM: Physical: 5.8GiB, 76.7% free ** Disk: Total: 104.1GiB, 90.3% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI1: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek[05:55:15] <CountryfiedLinux> Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 36m 43s **[05:55:31] <day|flip> ahhh. 21:55 here[05:55:51] <day|flip> just trying to figure out why morning[05:56:05] <dodgejcr> because it is always morning somewhere[05:56:15] <day|flip> :)[05:56:21] <bugzbunny> dodgejcr: Is not from central USA[05:56:32] <dodgejcr> oh?[05:56:34] <day|flip> how come?[05:56:35] <dodgejcr> Im not?[05:56:38] <bugzbunny> It would 06:08 in central usa[05:56:42] <day|flip> lmao[05:56:44] * bugzbunny lies[05:57:03] <bugzbunny> just kidding[05:57:09] <bugzbunny> sowwy[05:57:11] <dodgejcr> lol[05:57:19] * day|flip poke lier bugzbunny[05:57:28] * dodgejcr wants some of the drugs bugzbunny is on[05:58:09] <day|flip> dodgejcr, i finish my lxqt theme I been working on[05:58:10] <bugzbunny> Not on drugs[05:58:15] <bugzbunny> But I need help[05:58:24] <bugzbunny> Where does Hexchat look for plugins?[05:58:36] <dodgejcr> ~/.hexchat[05:58:39] <bugzbunny> I am googling but I am getting Hexcat faq[05:58:42] <dodgejcr> or ~/.config/hexchat[05:58:47] <dodgejcr> day|flip: nice, pics?[05:58:53] <bugzbunny> dodgejcr: Just put the script in ~/.config/hexchat?[05:59:13] <dodgejcr> no, Im sure they need a plugins folder[05:59:17] <bugzbunny> yeah[05:59:27] <bugzbunny> That's what I am trying to figure out[05:59:35] * bugzbunny keeps google[05:59:53] <dodgejcr> bugzbunny: this might help https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/appearance.html[05:59:56] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/QesJA4] Appearance — HexChat 2.12.0 documentation[06:00:00] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has joined #manjaro[06:00:29] <bugzbunny> nope[06:00:37] <dodgejcr> first line[06:00:45] <dodgejcr> or first section*[06:00:53] <dodgejcr> extract into ~/config/hexchat[06:01:17] <dodgejcr> needs to be the hct tho[06:01:31] <dodgejcr> im assuming hexchat will pick it up on the next time it is started[06:01:33] <bugzbunny> no no[06:01:41] <bugzbunny> That's for theme[06:01:52] <dodgejcr> oh you are just doing scipts[06:02:17] <day|flip> http://i.imgur.com/yTUuX2W.png & http://i.imgur.com/9aG8QX5.png[06:02:18] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/idKrXV] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[06:02:19] <bugzbunny> It's frustrating, I had already had the script, and Hexchat was crashing[06:02:40] <bugzbunny> I spoke to the Author of Hexchat and ended up being a python issue[06:02:57] <bugzbunny> I thought I didn't remove it and just move the folder[06:03:24] <bugzbunny> I can't find it on my disk... now... I just need to know where to put this script, which is a python script[06:04:00] <dodgejcr> day|flip: not bad at all man[06:04:39] <bugzbunny> hold on... my username for manjaro, I still I have my older username from when I had fedora[06:04:41] <bugzbunny> On my disk[06:04:42] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:04:47] <day|flip> dodgejcr, it going be for manjaro lxqt theme. I'm hoping it going be showing up on openrc lxqt. artoo is helping on the PKGBUILD[06:05:32] <day|flip> bugzbunny, do you know the name of your script[06:05:46] <dodgejcr> bugzbunny: ~/.config/hexchat/addons[06:05:59] <bugzbunny> Thanks dodgejcr[06:06:11] <bugzbunny> I already found the same script a long time ago https://github.com/Erenzie/hexchat-banshee-script/blob/master/banshee_script.py[06:06:13] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/pSPEVh] hexchat-banshee-script/banshee_script.py at master · Erenzie/hexchat-banshee-script · GitHub[06:06:20] <bugzbunny> I just didn't know where to place it[06:06:46] <dodgejcr> day|flip: nice, hopefully you guys get it going[06:07:19] <bugzbunny> I google dodgejcr[06:07:21] <day|flip> dodgejcr, same here. I'm now starting to work on the sddm theme. but having issue finding a background image for it[06:07:25] <bugzbunny> Sigh[06:07:34] <dodgejcr> also get with escapalion(sp?) he does the systemd lxqt spin right?[06:07:57] <dodgejcr> bugzbunny: yeah, I found it through obscure methods[06:08:03] <dodgejcr> http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/faq.html[06:08:04] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/V3vS2t] Frequently Asked Questions — HexChat 2.12.0 documentation[06:08:39] <day|flip> dodgejcr, i think he used systemd cuz it the main init on manjaro. But ya he does his own lxqt theme.[06:08:39] <dodgejcr> step 5 on migrating settings to be specific[06:09:21] <dodgejcr> day|flip: I thought it was just a small modification to an existing theme[06:09:27] <dodgejcr> and maybe not even that[06:10:58] <day|flip> maybe. but his last one. Ice. maybe his biggest change he have done[06:11:17] <bugzbunny> sweet[06:11:19] * bugzbunny is listening to b'Aaliyah' - b'Rock the Boat' [b'Aaliyah'] (2:50/4:35)[06:11:23] <bugzbunny> woot[06:11:27] <bugzbunny> Now[06:11:38] <day|flip> ahhh cool[06:11:41] <bugzbunny> If I exit, it crash, it's okay, but it works!![06:12:05] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[06:13:34] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@189.133.92.40> has joined #manjaro[06:13:39] <dodgejcr> hrm havent seen his latest release. Ive been *gone* for about a month or so[06:14:07] <day|flip> dodgejcr, even my theme. I built it off of plasma-kde theme. And change thing to how I want it to be. Man i learn a lot. like how 1/3 of lxqt-panel.qss is not set up right to work. so i had to go looking around the other lxqt themes that comes with lxqt. and figure out what was wrong with it. I change just about everything to what i build on to it[06:14:38] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@128.177.161.172> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[06:14:46] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@128.177.161.172> has joined #manjaro[06:14:48] <dodgejcr> good post it up on some of the theme sites and share with the world[06:15:00] <dodgejcr> and let the world share with you when it comes to making it better[06:15:01] <day|flip> I already have[06:15:13] <dodgejcr> :D[06:15:18] <day|flip> it on my github[06:15:41] <bugzbunny> day|flip: What is your github link?[06:15:57] <day|flip> but I'm waiting to finish up sddm and openbox. openbox myabe the easiest to work with[06:16:10] <bugzbunny> for me, my work is shitty lol, uh scm.lhprojects.net[06:16:22] <bugzbunny> but anyhow... what is the link?[06:17:12] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:1559:5::100b> has joined #manjaro[06:17:15] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[06:17:30] <day|flip> I'll like to share when I'm done with openbox and sddm. but still will not be hard to find on github[06:20:55] *** SovietShaman_ is now known as CommunistWitchDr[06:20:58] <day|flip> and it going be for a Manjaro Openrc Community Editions[06:21:20] <dodgejcr> even better lol[06:21:44] <dodgejcr> well, I gotsta get something to eat so later guys[06:21:48] <day|flip> just sddm theme is going be the hardest part[06:21:49] <dodgejcr> might be back in a few hours[06:21:52] <day|flip> take care dodgejcr[06:22:02] <day|flip> get some good sleep[06:27:14] <bugzbunny> day|flip: SDDM[06:27:18] <bugzbunny> I hear good things[06:27:28] <bugzbunny> I am not sure I will be interested[06:27:40] <bugzbunny> But I a plan to pick up a cheap HDD[06:30:06] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:1559:5::100b> has quit IRC (Quit: has teleported)[06:37:01] <dodgejcr> t[06:40:35] <day|flip> sddm is a qt5 display manager[06:45:18] <dodgejcr> sddm is not dependent on qt5[06:45:34] <dodgejcr> just used with kde/qt5[06:45:54] <dodgejcr> I use it with xfce/awesome[06:46:18] <day|flip> ahhh qml[06:46:24] <day|flip> but still it very nice[06:46:35] <day|flip> is qml more kde side?[06:46:43] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:46:49] <dodgejcr> eh, sometimes[06:47:00] <dodgejcr> most people do qml with kde stuffs[06:47:05] <dodgejcr> but dont think it has to be[06:47:14] <day|flip> SDDM depends on PAM for authorization and XCB to communicate with the X server. Apart from other things, it also depends on Qt for the user interface and event loop management[06:47:25] <hongliangsam> 等等，我换成utox[06:48:15] <hongliangsam> sorry，i send a wrong place[06:48:26] <day|flip> it find[06:53:50] *** snypxzz <snypxzz!~Lynxzz@c-24-131-10-188.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:58:10] *** Ando <Ando!~user@simone16.lnk.telstra.net> has joined #manjaro[07:14:17] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@189.133.92.40> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[07:14:28] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@189.133.92.40> has joined #manjaro[07:16:53] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p50819082.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[07:20:53] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:1559:5::100b> has joined #manjaro[07:21:35] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[07:28:26] *** Frechdachs <Frechdachs!~Frechdach@2001:41d0:52:d00::e21> has quit IRC (Quit: quit)[07:31:14] *** jump <jump!ad4abe14@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.173.74.190.20> has joined #manjaro[07:31:17] *** Frechdachs <Frechdachs!~Frechdach@2001:41d0:52:d00::e21> has joined #manjaro[07:32:35] <jump> When ever I installed linux kernel 4.6 my broadcom drivers stopped working[07:36:46] <day|flip> i suggest you install broadcom-wl-dkms and linux46-headers and headers that your using[07:37:03] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.250.143.249> has joined #manjaro[07:37:52] <jump> I am using BCM4360[07:38:11] <day|flip> after you do that. when ever you install a new linux47 or w/e it will install the new headers kernel for you and set up for you[07:39:32] <day|flip> BCM4352[07:40:28] <day|flip> but really. go the broadcom-wl-dkms route[07:40:50] <jump> I used make to install linux kernel[07:43:24] <edge226> jump: well then you probably broke stuff.[07:43:33] *** Ando <Ando!~user@simone16.lnk.telstra.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:49:46] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[07:55:41] *** charles_ <charles_!~charles@gam80-1-78-234-234-27.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[07:56:05] *** charles_ is now known as Guest36301[07:56:07] <Guest36301> hi, how i i save my alias to not loose it at reboot plz ?[08:00:11] <dodgejcr> alias? like command aliases?[08:00:38] <Guest36301> y[08:00:54] <dodgejcr> save them in your ~/.bashrc[08:01:03] <dodgejcr> or the rc of whatever shell you are using[08:01:13] <Guest36301> ty[08:01:49] <dodgejcr> once you put them there, you can reload the settings by: source ~/.bashrc[08:03:45] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:03:52] *** LyrixCaz <LyrixCaz!~Aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:04:03] <edge226> well actually...[08:04:04] *** Guest36301 <Guest36301!~charles@gam80-1-78-234-234-27.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:04:24] <edge226> ~/.bashrc loads when you load a terminal. This is not what he wants.[08:04:42] <ajfried22> hey edge226[08:05:21] <edge226> he wants ~/.bash_profile because that loads when he logs on.[08:06:48] *** NEWBI3 <NEWBI3!~Thunderbi@2604:2000:9883:3500::8> has joined #manjaro[08:06:50] <edge226> Oh the dude left and ~/.bashrc isnt going to do what he wants lol[08:07:03] *** NEWBI3 <NEWBI3!~Thunderbi@2604:2000:9883:3500::8> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:07:18] <dodgejcr> well, it will but yeah profile would have been better[08:08:06] <dodgejcr> better to say *might* work[08:08:14] <dodgejcr> depending on the alias and how he uses it[08:08:25] * edge226 nods.[08:08:36] <edge226> well if he comes back now you know what to tell him :P[08:09:07] <dodgejcr> meh, Im about to go to bed. There is a 95% chance that what he wanted will be resolved with bashrc[08:09:20] <edge226> maybe.[08:09:38] <edge226> but does he even know to export it[08:09:48] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[08:09:48] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[08:09:48] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[08:09:52] <edge226> he might just put alias blah blah.[08:09:57] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:10:18] * dodgejcr hopes he at least googled 'add alias to bashrc'[08:10:20] <dodgejcr> or something[08:10:33] <dodgejcr> but who knows[08:10:48] <day|flip> alias sex='inbed' ^_~[08:11:08] <edge226> hard to say. Some people have some shady troubleshooting practices.[08:11:14] <dodgejcr> ay that they do[08:11:29] <edge226> and hey ajfried22 How are you today?[08:11:37] <day|flip> source .bashrc[08:12:09] <edge226> you can do . .bashrc instead.[08:12:53] <dodgejcr> gah, I hate shopping for a new laptop[08:12:55] <ajfried22> doing great edge226, ever had a day went everything just went right? today was my day, i even bought a lotto. lol[08:12:56] <day|flip> i have not used bash in a good time. mostly mksh[08:13:00] <dodgejcr> tiring process. I am too picky[08:13:02] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[08:13:10] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[08:13:29] <edge226> day|flip: I'm pretty well versed in bash...[08:13:54] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[08:14:06] <day|flip> bash is nice. but mksh is lighter[08:14:26] <edge226> are we talking usage or scripting?[08:14:49] <CountryfiedLinux> screenshot http://imgur.com/M4umvlC[08:14:49] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/agfyjT] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[08:15:02] <day|flip> usage[08:15:25] <edge226> well in that case I'd suggest Fish.[08:15:33] <edge226> fish is amazing.[08:15:45] *** manjaro-web|8421 <manjaro-web|8421!1fb43082@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.31.180.48.130> has joined #manjaro[08:15:59] <day|flip> will like mksh since it keep your last command till you close your terminal.[08:16:05] <edge226> for scripting I like bash but zsh or such would probably be just as capable.[08:16:19] <edge226> day|flip: fish is probably better.[08:16:42] <edge226> day|flip: http://fishshell.com/[08:16:43] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/uzkM7L] fish shell[08:16:50] <day|flip> fish is nice for learning what command does what or auto guess --[08:17:37] <day|flip> but I just don't like how bash/zsh and fish keep your command stored.[08:18:02] <day|flip> witch is why i used mksh[08:18:08] <edge226> Ah.[08:18:30] <edge226> Well you could just have bash remove the history when you logout but thats kinda shady imho.[08:19:07] *** ringo32 <ringo32!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[08:19:12] <day|flip> make a command to delete bash_history?[08:19:26] <day|flip> na.. still think it stupid[08:19:37] <day|flip> sup ringo32[08:19:53] <CountryfiedLinux> Imagine Manjaro being brown, white, and orange themed.[08:19:56] <edge226> yeah it wouldnt be that hard there is even .bash_logout[08:20:14] <ringo32> hi[08:20:24] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.250.143.249> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:20:32] <day|flip> i'll just keep it simple and used mksh[08:20:39] *** manjaro-web|8421 <manjaro-web|8421!1fb43082@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.31.180.48.130> has left #manjaro[08:21:01] <edge226> day|flip: I think the general practice of wanting your history removed each terminal session is silly for security reasons. But thats up to you.[08:24:27] <day|flip> i'm happy using mksh. it not like bash is evil. it just like how mksh handle thing. not a big geek on stuff. nor a programmer.[08:29:42] *** iSlayWyverns <iSlayWyverns!~uid18915@ppp005054044145.access.hol.gr> has joined #manjaro[08:31:39] * zero-ghost firejailsringo32[08:43:05] *** fennectech <fennectech!~fennectec@68-112-153-64.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[08:43:19] <fennectech> i have an issue[08:43:51] <fennectech> if you add init=/bin/bash via grub you bypass ALL of the operating systems authentication scheme is there a way to fix this?[08:45:31] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@189.133.92.40> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:49:10] *** fennectech <fennectech!~fennectec@68-112-153-64.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[08:50:00] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@bsy91-2-82-247-139-147.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[08:53:06] *** steepleone <steepleone!~ray@LFbn-1-6760-250.w90-120.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[08:56:28] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:57:22] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[08:59:04] *** steepleone <steepleone!~ray@LFbn-1-6760-250.w90-120.abo.wanadoo.fr> has left #manjaro[09:00:27] <bugzbunny> hmmmmm[09:04:24] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@65.129.26.97> has joined #manjaro[09:04:32] *** frinknet_ <frinknet_!~frinknet@72-161-22-136.dyn.centurytel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:04:46] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@bsy91-2-82-247-139-147.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[09:04:46] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@65.129.26.97> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:05:13] <ringo32> hi[09:05:29] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@197.252.5.181> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:06:32] <ringo32> hi zero-ghost[09:07:35] <jump> yup[09:07:42] <jump> just scripting some c#[09:07:54] <jump> at 2 am in the morning...[09:08:03] <zero-ghost> :D[09:08:50] <zero-ghost> what do you think about firejail's X sandboxing ringo32[09:09:28] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@197.252.0.198> has joined #manjaro[09:10:23] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE16B8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:11:01] *** Herve83 <Herve83!~manjaro-k@243.176.153.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[09:14:40] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@host-89-242-106-7.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[09:18:58] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[09:23:51] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@128.177.161.172> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:26:10] <ringo32> zero-ghost, mayby waterclone :p[09:27:12] *** jump <jump!ad4abe14@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.173.74.190.20> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[09:28:33] <zero-ghost> i'll waterclone you[09:29:33] * ringo32 is bored[09:30:22] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.174> has joined #manjaro[09:30:34] *** frinknet <frinknet!~frinknet@72-161-22-136.dyn.centurytel.net> has joined #manjaro[09:34:35] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p200300E10BCCB000667002FFFE2E10FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:38:44] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:40:09] <zero-ghost> read this ringo32: http://blanshey.com/introduction-to-maidsafe-what-it-is-how-it-works-and-how-it-compares-to-bitcoin/[09:40:12] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/RG7j5I] Introduction to MaidSafe: what it is, how it works, and how it compares to Bitcoin | Ephi Blanshey[09:42:27] <ringo32> zero-ghost, i dont understand[09:42:41] <ringo32> people want to be hidden and 'safe' but they gona use bitcoins[09:42:42] <ringo32> lol[09:43:11] <ringo32> Real Money FTW!!!![09:43:38] <zero-ghost> haha...just read it...[09:43:48] <zero-ghost> the whole thing[09:44:09] <zero-ghost> cause its nothing like bitcoin ;)[09:45:33] <ringo32> who said its safe to use?[09:45:35] <peetaur> ringo32: if only real money was still a thing... fiat money isn't quite as real as I'd like[09:46:18] <ringo32> i dont have online currency :)[09:46:46] <ringo32> also i dont care about, its bit good if you have some currency besides bitcoins also several others[09:46:51] <zero-ghost> ringo32: sure it needs lots of real world testing (which is happening right now) and peer reviewing, but since they started in 2006 everything theyve done in code and in their company has been 100% open[09:47:06] <zero-ghost> haha just stop being lazy and read the damn article[09:47:18] <zero-ghost> i think you'll be like... oh wait... that kinda sounds good[09:47:41] <ringo32> howmany digital currency is availble?[09:47:42] <peetaur> zero-ghost: what do you think of ripple?[09:47:42] <zero-ghost> maidsafe isnt a currency its a new internet, with an integrated anonymous currency[09:47:52] <zero-ghost> ripple is just another bank[09:47:57] <zero-ghost> its not a cryptocoin[09:48:36] * ringo32 things to start a currency , zero-ghost will be first costumor[09:48:44] <zero-ghost> ringo32 there are about 800 cryptocoins based on bitcoin and another sibling of bitcoin called "cryptonote"[09:48:49] <day|flip> MaidSafe is a new online currency?[09:48:56] <ringo32> nah[09:49:01] <zero-ghost> no day|flip, just read the article i posted :)[09:49:06] <peetaur> zero-ghost: ok was just testing you ;) (ripple is just a big bankster fake attempt at bitcoin alternative, but it's just centralized and everything, just like fiat)[09:49:17] <zero-ghost> yea i thought it was a trap xD[09:49:22] * ringo32 dont read button enabled. firejailed the button[09:49:27] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:49:45] <ringo32> but does the currency fluctuate ?[09:50:16] <zero-ghost> yup like every other value of exchange thats ever existed in history[09:50:28] <zero-ghost> to be clear safecoin doesnt exist yet[09:50:36] <ringo32> i dont need it so .. :)[09:50:40] <zero-ghost> (which couldve been gathered by reading the article)[09:51:14] <zero-ghost> ok lets start over... "Hey ringo32, what do you think of this new network!"[09:51:25] <zero-ghost> **ringo32 goes to read article about network technology**[09:51:37] <VoidFox> my favorite is dogecoins[09:51:55] <zero-ghost> all blockchain based coins are obsolete with maidsafe[09:52:11] <zero-ghost> all blockchains are doomed to get too big for individuals to host[09:52:20] <zero-ghost> becomes the opposite of their goal... centralized[09:53:07] <ringo32> the time to take bitcoins are over , in denmark i man could bought a house but that times are over[09:53:43] <zero-ghost> 1 bitcoin right now = almost $700[09:53:52] <zero-ghost> its kinda the best time to be using bitcoins in the past 2 years[09:53:57] <zero-ghost> but thats besides the point[09:53:57] <peetaur> zero-ghost: making the blockchain smaller should be easy enough... but decentralizing mining has failed...they didn't even try... even litecoin gave up; they didn't adapt when it became possible to mine on gpu, and failed again when it became possible on ASIC[09:54:11] <zero-ghost> peetaur you can only postpone the inevitable[09:54:19] <zero-ghost> no reason for that when these guys are solving it[09:54:24] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@bsy91-2-82-247-139-147.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[09:54:33] <peetaur> zero-ghost: no, you constantly change and so it's an 'arms race' that doesn't end. one side shouldn't just give up.[09:54:34] <zero-ghost> on top of that proof of work is failed[09:54:36] <zero-ghost> and obsolete[09:54:39] <ringo32> its impossile to decentralize it[09:54:41] <zero-ghost> proof of stake is really great[09:54:47] <zero-ghost> im mining coins ina vitrual machine[09:54:49] <peetaur> change is inherently impossible for ASIC (AS = application specific)[09:54:51] <zero-ghost> on a great proof of stake coin[09:55:00] <zero-ghost> ringo32: read the article i link[09:55:11] <ringo32> i dont believe what people writes[09:55:12] <zero-ghost> youll see maidsafe is the most decnetralized thing youve ever heard of ;)[09:55:12] <ringo32> :p[09:55:31] <zero-ghost> here wait let me just say this again for the next question from someone that couldve been answered already (READ THE DAMN ARTICLE)[09:55:49] <ringo32> not interested :) also i dont use digital coins[09:55:54] <ringo32> Real Money FTW[09:55:58] <zero-ghost> its not a digital coin[09:55:59] <zero-ghost> its a network[09:56:07] <zero-ghost> go read the article about this new network technology[09:56:22] <ringo32> all network is hackable[09:56:24] <ringo32> :)[09:56:27] <zero-ghost> go read the article[09:56:31] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5799175D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:56:35] <zero-ghost> to see why thats now obsolete[09:57:13] <peetaur> ringo32: you deposit $100 in a bank with $0 and now they have $100, then they lend $100 to ten people, totalling $1000 and collect interest on that. Where's the "real" in real money?[09:58:30] <zero-ghost> bitcoin can safely die because there is ShadowCash (a different blockchain based coin that is actually private and uses proof of stake mining which doesnt kill the earth), and then shadowcash can now die because there will be maidsafe[09:58:39] <zero-ghost> its insane times for humanity[09:59:16] <ringo32> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-17/bitcoins-largest-competitor-hacked-over-59-million-ethers-stolen-ongoing-attack[09:59:17] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/tc6UBW] Bitcoin's Largest Competitor Hacked: Over $59 Million "Ethers" Stolen In Ongoing Attack | Zero Hedge[09:59:35] <ringo32> from your brother zero-ghost , zero-hedge :p[10:00:15] <zero-ghost> i never had any ether, and nothing was actually hacked, because the hacker just followed the logic that was written in that one contract created on the chain[10:00:45] <zero-ghost> nothing broken about the cryptocoin ethereum itself[10:01:24] <zero-ghost> and there have been millions stolen in bitcoin because the weak point is the last weak point we have, our device in our possesion[10:01:32] <ringo32> lets say im not fan of such currency , everything can be hacked for sure.....[10:01:42] <zero-ghost> whereas the weak point of your real money has some odd thousand weaknesses no where near in your control[10:02:17] <zero-ghost> how much is stolen from bank ATMs everyday[10:02:52] <zero-ghost> damn ok flood stop now, but anyone interested just read that article[10:03:28] <day|flip> maidsafe will not be a good idea for me. I like to shut down my computer. if i used that I end up owing money then make money[10:03:44] <zero-ghost> day|flip: using the network should be free[10:04:01] <zero-ghost> and whatever coin you recieve while using the network stays in the network and the next time you log in you have it to use[10:04:04] <zero-ghost> :)[10:07:00] <ringo32> zero-ghost, may i borrow your network? :)[10:09:03] <zero-ghost> of coarse im running it right now[10:09:05] <zero-ghost> use away[10:09:09] <day|flip> i'm too tired to think about safecoin. im heading to bed[10:09:14] <day|flip> good night all[10:09:35] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[10:09:39] <zero-ghost> https://forum.safenetwork.io/t/test5-aka-destructive-test-is-now-running/10096[10:09:41] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/3QqLZi] TEST5 (AKA destructive test) - is now running - updates - SAFE Network Forum[10:09:42] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.68.1.211> has joined #manjaro[10:11:35] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[10:12:06] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[10:14:40] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@p5DD07209.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[10:15:03] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@p5DD07209.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:17:14] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qwwebmmdskfrkqru> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[10:17:48] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@host-89-242-106-7.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:23:07] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[10:26:08] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE16B8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:31:32] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE16B8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[10:31:55] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@user-36c5b4e.cable.mindspring.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:41:36] *** zz_MyPictures is now known as MyPictures[10:45:42] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@46.197.149.93> has joined #manjaro[10:48:44] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@80.10.65.59> has joined #manjaro[10:50:41] *** hai <hai!~hai_bar@79.173.240.199> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[11:02:29] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[11:03:19] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5799175D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:05:35] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@bsy91-2-82-247-139-147.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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e.g. with primusrun[12:38:11] <ok91> Thanks in advance![12:39:22] <Lowl3v3l> ok91, uhm your question is phrases weirdly. not chrome decides which graphics card/driver how to use, thats an issue of the x-server[12:40:18] <ok91> yeah but you can run an application using the enhanced graphis using, for example, "$ primusrun firefox"[12:40:33] <ok91> just that it doesn't work for chrome[12:40:39] <ok91> for firefox, for instance, it does[12:40:51] <ok91> and then firefox runs using the Nvidia graphic card[12:42:16] <Lowl3v3l> ok91, do you have more than one graphics device?[12:42:23] <ok91> 2[12:42:53] <Lowl3v3l> ok91, both "real" devices or counting on board graphics? Do you use some kind of Hybridization tech?[12:43:03] <ok91> One integrated, an Intel, and one Nvidia[12:43:11] <ok91> 1 on board[12:43:15] <ok91> 1 "real"[12:43:30] <ok91> I have the bumblebee hybrid driver installed[12:43:46] <ok91> so it should be using both depending on the needs of the application as far as I know...[12:43:47] <Lowl3v3l> oh okay this bumblebee stuff... dont know anything about that, sorry^^[12:43:51] <ok91> but that's just the theory[12:44:18] <ok91> yeah this bumblebee stuff is quite tricky...[12:44:37] <Strit_Laptop> maybe you can do "optirun google-chrome".[12:45:39] *** tmnvanderberg <tmnvanderberg!~tmnvander@52481FAE.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[12:45:57] <ok91> ! ~ optirun google-chrome-stable 1275ms So 03 Jul 2016 12:44:54 CEST[12:45:59] <ok91> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libdlfaker.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.[12:46:00] <ok91> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libvglfaker.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.[12:46:02] <ok91> Created new window in existing browser session.[12:46:04] <ok91> ups, sorry[12:46:14] <ok91> didn't intend to paste all that in here[12:46:38] <ok91> so it throws an error[12:46:48] <ok91> both for optirun and primusrun[12:46:56] <ok91> for firefox both run just fine[12:46:57] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B2087B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:49:04] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.12.177> has joined #manjaro[12:49:13] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.12.177> has left #manjaro[12:50:25] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[12:52:16] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[12:52:57] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[12:54:32] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[12:57:54] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@d5.7b.39a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com> has joined #manjaro[13:07:47] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[13:09:07] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:09:20] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5799175D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:10:05] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[13:11:21] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5799175D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:11:51] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:20:42] *** DeadBirD <DeadBirD!~manjaro-k@cpe-174-104-178-81.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:21:27] *** introwertyk <introwertyk!~none@095160157170.dynamic-ra-10.vectranet.pl> has joined #manjaro[13:21:47] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:22:23] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.50.69> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[13:26:26] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[13:32:25] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200::7c4f> has left #manjaro[13:37:22] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@bsy91-2-82-247-139-147.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…)[16:10:42] *** Janjd <Janjd!5308fdae@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.8.253.174> has joined #manjaro[16:11:02] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.50.69> has joined #manjaro[16:11:28] <Janjd> Hi[16:11:54] <Janjd> Does anyone have problem with starting deepin lock screen?[16:12:53] *** Sashimi <Sashimi!~Sashimi@bsy91-2-82-247-139-147.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[16:19:39] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-088-249.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:20:22] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-088-249.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[16:22:15] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p200300E10BCCB000667002FFFE2E10FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:22:24] *** Masterpotatoman <Masterpotatoman!~User3@66.242.210.183> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:23:15] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-100-17.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:23:18] <mtn> Janjd: if you have a problem with it, explain what it is and maybe someone can help[16:23:24] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-088-249.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:23:45] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[16:24:24] <Janjd> Ok so the problem i mention its about probably lock screen becose if my laptop is powered everything is OK but when i use battery then the lock screen dosent show up?[16:24:25] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-088-249.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[16:24:40] <Janjd> Anyone had something similar? Sry for bad english i am foreigner ;)[16:25:34] <mtn> Janjd: you need to better explain what you are doing and what happens. how do you "hibernate"? what happens when you try?[16:25:52] *** jco1 <jco1!6cb72618@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.183.38.24> has joined #manjaro[16:26:17] *** jco1 <jco1!6cb72618@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.183.38.24> has left #manjaro[16:26:43] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.50.69> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[16:26:45] <Janjd> even if i turn off or hibernate the same problem ,if i am on battery it wont start :/[16:27:34] *** AABatteries <AABatteries!~manjaro-i@afip195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:27:44] <mtn> Janjd: what won't start? you are not being clear[16:28:11] <Janjd> lock screen from deepin[16:28:22] <Janjd> it dont show up :/[16:28:35] <mtn> Janjd: how do you start it? I still hve no idea what you are doing or trying to do[16:29:18] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has joined #manjaro[16:29:52] <Janjd> when i turn on my computer ,if it's powered everything goed fine but when i try to run manjaro deepin on battery nothing show up :/[16:30:22] <mtn> Janjd: ok, so it won't even boot if you are not power? with only battery it won't even boot? is that right?[16:31:03] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:1559:5::100b> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:31:10] *** Guest99309 <Guest99309!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[16:31:15] <Janjd> It runs only when it is plugged in[16:31:27] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-100-17.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[16:31:41] <mtn> Janjd: then you have a bad battery or another hardware problem. not a software problem[16:32:03] <Janjd> before installing deepin everythings had worked just fine :/[16:32:29] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: ")[16:32:32] *** ajfried22 <ajfried22!~ajfried22@2a00:1a28:155a:3::1009> has joined #manjaro[16:32:43] <mtn> Janjd: ok, try with another distro or desktop. 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Trying to install manjaro gnome 16.06 keep getting graphics initialization failed. I don't have a terminal access from the boot menu and nonfree option doesn't work either[17:38:02] <defun> tried the official supported version of manjaro as well[17:38:06] <defun> but that doesn't work[17:38:42] <jurislav> any error message?[17:39:28] <defun> it goes on to print "Couldn't not allocate memory"[17:39:36] <Lowl3v3l> defun, does journalctl or dmesg show sth interesting?[17:40:09] <defun> how do I run any of those commands, I can't do ctlr + alt + f2, f3 etc.. to get terminal access[17:40:15] <jurislav> defun: you're not even getting past boot, is that right..?[17:40:16] <defun> all get is Available boot options[17:40:19] <defun> yes[17:40:39] <jurislav> does other OS boot okay?[17:40:44] <jurislav> can you try different distro?[17:40:53] <defun> I tried ubuntu that boots ok[17:41:28] <mtn> defun: do a search on gnome and your video card. maybe it is not supported by gnome?[17:42:20] <defun> I was able to install gnome using ubuntu 16.04 but just unable to get past manjaro boot screen. Also same issue with the official manjaro release xkcd[17:42:39] <defun> mean to say xfce[17:42:48] <Lowl3v3l> defun, can you boot in textmode?[17:43:13] <defun> how do I do that[17:43:17] <mtn> defun: what is your video card/chip?[17:44:04] <defun> HD Graphics 4000[17:46:50] <defun> its actually HD Graphics 5500[17:47:24] <defun> is there any way to pass nomodeset from the boot options screen[17:48:05] <mtn> defun: yes, it is easy to do so. hit e to edit, I believe[17:48:32] <mtn> defun: or in the install disk, just an option at the bottom of the first screen?[17:51:00] <defun> mtn: hitting e is not working[17:51:19] <mtn> defun: can't add it at the bottom of the first screen, like I mentioned?[17:51:55] <defun> mtn: you mean in the usb disk add another config file[17:52:12] <mtn> defun: you are talking about the install disk, correct?[17:52:18] <defun> mtn: yes[17:52:35] <mtn> defun: first screen that comes up. look at the bottom. what do you see?[17:53:10] <defun> Available boot options: start, nonfree, harddisk, hdt, memtest[17:53:14] <defun> boot prompt[17:53:24] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[17:53:34] <mtn> defun: enter nomodeset in the boot prompt[17:54:45] <defun> mtn: tried it doesn't seem to work[17:55:01] <mtn> defun: why not? what happens?[17:55:54] <defun> mtn: same thing it returns the boot options with the same error[17:56:30] <mtn> defun: what does "returns the boot options with the same error" mean? explain[17:57:32] <defun> so when I boot from the usb the first screen shows an error at the top before the text "Welcome to Manjaro Linux!"[17:57:50] <defun> error is "Graphics initialization failed, Error setting up gfxboot"[17:58:25] <defun> than it shows the available boot options, no matter what option I gave it returns to the same screen and after few tries it shows the could not allocate memory[17:59:57] <mtn> defun: when you get that error, can you type "help", without the " marks?[18:00:02] <mtn> defun: if so, what happens?[18:00:37] <defun> help also does the same behavior returns the boot options[18:01:31] <mtn> defun: no other options after you type help? hitting enter just returns you to the first menu?[18:02:19] <defun> mtn: yes[18:02:33] <mtn> defun: how did you make the usb disk?[18:03:09] *** kolklay <kolklay!~kolklay@2601:245:8100:2347::8> has joined #manjaro[18:03:50] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~wesley@82-168-172-191.ip.telfort.nl> has joined #manjaro[18:04:10] <defun> mtn: I used etcher app http://www.etcher.io/ and also tried dd option as well in os x[18:04:10] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/WbMx9D] Etcher by resin.io[18:04:20] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~wesley@82-168-172-191.ip.telfort.nl> has left #manjaro[18:04:55] <mtn> defun: it is possible it is a bad iso or usb burn. dd usually is the best method, so it should work fine, though[18:05:20] <defun> mtn: didn't have any issues with other isos in other distros[18:05:21] <mtn> defun: is this a mac you are trying to install on?[18:05:50] <mtn> defun: did you say you had tried more than one manjaro iso?[18:05:51] <defun> mtn: no chromebook pixel 2[18:06:13] <mtn> defun: is secure boot off?[18:06:19] <defun> mtn: yes all are having same issues. I tried the 15.12 version that still shows the same screen but if I use nonfree option it works[18:06:24] <defun> mtn: yes[18:06:59] <mtn> defun: sorry, out of ideas, but it sounds like a video driver problem[18:07:13] <defun> mtn: thanks for your help. appreciate it[18:07:22] <mtn> defun: welcome[18:09:23] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.68.1.211> has joined #manjaro[18:11:49] *** raleeha <raleeha!~knut@x55b3923e.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:15:52] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-100-17.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:19:21] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xdohievoplgucsrk> has joined #manjaro[18:19:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[18:19:39] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@2.187.158.81> has joined #manjaro[18:19:44] <manjaro-kde5--> hi[18:20:23] <manjaro-kde5--> Do you know why I can't open firefox?I can open it yesterday[18:20:37] <mtn> manjaro-kde5--: rename your .mozilla folder and the try to open firefox[18:20:55] <manjaro-kde5--> where is that?[18:21:11] <mtn> manjaro-kde5--: in your home folder. it is a hidden folder[18:21:49] <mtn> manjaro-kde5--: use alt+. to see hidden folders[18:22:51] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:23:09] <manjaro-kde5--> no diffrent[18:23:20] <mtn> manjaro-kde5--: what is no different?[18:24:02] <manjaro-kde5--> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so:[18:24:03] <manjaro-kde5--> libhunspell-1.4.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory[18:24:05] <manjaro-kde5--> Couldn't load XPCOM.[18:24:14] <manjaro-kde5--> it show me this error in terminal[18:24:40] <mtn> manjaro-kde5--: ok, sounds like you removed some important files[18:24:57] <manjaro-kde5--> no I don't[18:25:08] <mtn> manjaro-kde5--: ok, then it is working fine, right?[18:25:26] <manjaro-kde5--> no[18:25:32] <manjaro-kde5--> it don'y get open[18:25:52] <mtn> manjaro-kde5--: try removing firefox and reinstalling it[18:26:54] <mtn> manjaro-kde5--: also reinstall hunspell[18:27:49] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has joined #manjaro[18:28:57] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:31:17] <mtn> manjaro-kde5--: did that help?[18:33:49] *** dancingcat <dancingcat!~dancingca@162.221.207.229> has joined #manjaro[18:35:03] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[18:35:20] *** kolklay <kolklay!~kolklay@2601:245:8100:2347::8> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[18:35:25] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[18:38:37] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[18:39:40] *** defun <defun!32b84828@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.184.72.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[18:43:49] *** Tintle <Tintle!~Tintle@unaffiliated/petirrojo> has joined #manjaro[18:51:50] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@182.150.163.242> has joined #manjaro[18:53:07] <manjaro> echo "Hello Manjaro"[18:53:57] <mtn> brilliant[18:55:28] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@80.10.65.59> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:57:16] <manjaro> First time trying out the Live Manjaro, just wanna hop in here to show my appreciation. Its BEAUTIFUL![18:58:55] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@2.187.158.81> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:58:57] *** hongliangsam <hongliangsam!~hongliang@223.73.168.54> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:59:33] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@87.241.174.93> has joined #manjaro[18:59:55] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.148> has joined #manjaro[19:00:40] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.34> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:02:12] <peaveyman> Anybody here used opus[19:03:33] *** tonto <tonto!~tonto@bas1-aurora91-3096736736.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[19:03:43] *** tonto <tonto!~tonto@bas1-aurora91-3096736736.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:03:59] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has joined #manjaro[19:07:50] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@197.252.3.35> has joined #manjaro[19:08:34] <NanoSector> HAHAHA "You tamed my monster... With your mouth... And two other places... In an order that would surprise you!"[19:09:38] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891837.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[19:10:25] *** jee1mr <jee1mr!~jeevan@106.51.138.152> has joined #manjaro[19:11:06] <jee1mr> Hi, Where is jarsigner for manjaro? I couldn't find it here: "/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk/jre/bin".[19:11:33] <jee1mr> Didn't install anything. Using the default installed jdk/jre.[19:14:33] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@80.10.65.59> has joined #manjaro[19:20:31] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@80.10.65.59> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:27:44] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt <Manj-1604-Lxqt!~massimo@host44-66-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[19:29:01] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:29:09] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt <Manj-1604-Lxqt!~massimo@host44-66-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has left #manjaro[19:30:21] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@197.252.3.35> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:33:54] *** SubZ3ro <SubZ3ro!~SubZero@152.93.60.94.rev.vodafone.pt> has joined #manjaro[19:34:02] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-088-249.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:34:03] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5799175D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:34:43] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-088-249.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[19:36:46] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@197.252.0.250> has joined #manjaro[19:37:41] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[19:38:07] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has joined #manjaro[19:40:10] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@182.150.163.242> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:45:10] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[19:45:23] <GenZai> Hello everybody[19:45:52] <LoveMHz> Ugh, handbrake is missing the MP4 option.. Any ideas?[19:46:33] *** tonto <tonto!~tonto@bas1-aurora91-3096736736.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[19:46:34] *** dh64 <dh64!~dh64@174-21-138-210.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[19:46:38] *** tonto is now known as Sum1ls[19:46:48] <GenZai> I'm trying to setup dual monitors, but it doesn't detect my second monitor[19:46:57] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.148> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:47:07] *** Sum1ls <Sum1ls!~tonto@bas1-aurora91-3096736736.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:47:11] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.174> has joined #manjaro[19:47:12] *** introwertyk <introwertyk!~none@095160157170.dynamic-ra-10.vectranet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Wychodzi)[19:47:47] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[19:48:11] <GenZai> I need to change something in xorg? or something?[19:48:49] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.78> has joined #manjaro[19:51:26] <Strit_Laptop> LoveMHz, try re-installing it. It should be there, and be the default option. It is for me.[19:52:07] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@197.252.0.250> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:53:03] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.68.1.211> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:53:16] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.68.1.211> has joined #manjaro[19:53:32] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:53:41] <LoveMHz> I have the MPEG-4 option, but it wants to output as .m4v, any idea if I rename it to mp4 that it would compatible? (Kindle Fire tablet)[19:55:05] *** kolklay <kolklay!~kolklay@2601:245:8100:2347::8> has joined #manjaro[19:55:44] <Strit_Laptop> handbrake does not have a Kindle preset?[19:56:01] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@197.252.0.250> has joined #manjaro[19:57:15] <GenZai> ok I'm trying this aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=right[19:57:15] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@197.252.0.250> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:57:18] <LoveMHz> Not for me[19:57:20] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:58:12] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has joined #manjaro[19:59:27] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[20:00:27] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.174> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:00:46] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:01:18] *** LoveMHz <LoveMHz!~dustin@205.197.242.174> has joined #manjaro[20:01:20] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[20:01:38] <Strit_Laptop> LoveMHz, I have no idea if it will support Kindle, but changing fileformat to mp4 has always worked for me. 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Go past this. Pass this part. In fact, never play this again.)[21:26:46] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[21:26:46] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@87.241.174.93> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:27:32] *** MyPictures is now known as zz_MyPictures[21:29:12] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:29:39] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[21:30:23] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has quit IRC (Quit: Over and out!)[21:32:37] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has joined #manjaro[21:34:27] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@187.36.220.116> has joined #manjaro[21:39:24] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffcc> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:39:32] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffcc> has joined #manjaro[21:39:41] * ringo32 day|flip morning[21:39:55] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@187.36.220.116> has joined #manjaro[21:41:44] <dodgejcr> ringo32.... how goes it sir[21:41:55] <ringo32> good :)[21:43:05] <dodgejcr> excellent[21:43:31] <vexare> hmm when are updates rolling[21:43:52] <vexare> i'm having mpv 0.17 and arch already has 0.18[21:44:03] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@187.36.220.116> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:44:35] <ringo32> sudo pacman-mirrors -g -b testing[21:44:36] <ringo32> :)[21:45:20] <ringo32> http://ix.io/ZXu[21:45:24] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/t3fDRG] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[21:46:03] <dodgejcr> ?[21:46:09] <dodgejcr> oh[21:46:20] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[21:46:35] <ringo32> oh ??[21:46:39] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@187.36.220.116> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:47:18] <dodgejcr> wondered why you were showing mpv but I didnt see vexare's message prior[21:47:36] <[[[archtard]]]> american politics is certainly entertaining this time around[21:49:20] <dodgejcr> sad and entertaining*[21:49:33] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[21:49:59] <ringo32> vexare, updates is always rollling bdw[21:53:29] *** SubZ3ro <SubZ3ro!~SubZero@152.93.60.94.rev.vodafone.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:54:36] *** [[[archtard]]] <[[[archtard]]]!~bonehead@46.166.190.150> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[21:56:13] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@187.36.220.116> has joined #manjaro[21:56:41] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@187.36.220.116> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:57:07] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@187.36.220.116> has joined #manjaro[21:57:17] <ringo32> dodgejcr, :)[21:57:41] <dodgejcr> yessir?[21:58:56] <ringo32> how goed on your side?[21:59:06] <dodgejcr> getting better[21:59:18] <dodgejcr> been a tough month or so but things are looking a lot better[21:59:36] <ringo32> im bored :) mainly :p[21:59:52] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@x4e3750cb.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:00:01] <ringo32> i try to motivate my self to bike[22:01:40] <vexare> maybe too hot now[22:01:44] <vexare> try biking at night[22:01:58] <ringo32> too wet :p[22:02:53] <vexare> oh, you have rain[22:02:53] <day|flip> sup ringo32[22:02:56] <dodgejcr> lol very much too hot right now[22:02:57] <vexare> thats nice[22:02:59] <day|flip> how are you dodgejcr[22:03:06] <dodgejcr> well[22:03:39] <dodgejcr> going to get to 40C here today[22:04:02] <dodgejcr> but sooo humid. You are drenched in sweat as soon as you go outside[22:06:37] <dodgejcr> how about you day|flip you good?[22:07:43] <day|flip> I'm doing good fixing make a minor change to my theme on github[22:08:40] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@67-5-245-249.ptld.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[22:09:42] <dodgejcr> Im thinking about trying to switch to a different WM/DE soon[22:09:49] <ringo32> Xfce?[22:09:50] <ringo32> :)[22:10:01] <day|flip> lxqt?[22:10:01] <dodgejcr> im using an xfce backend with awesomeWM currently[22:10:03] <ringo32> have installed gnome with lighdm, was fine..[22:10:11] <ringo32> but back on gnome[22:10:24] <dodgejcr> day|flip: might use lxqt with awesome[22:10:24] <ringo32> just basic Xfce with appfinder under a key[22:10:33] <dodgejcr> lol I need tiling[22:10:44] <day|flip> that work with lxqt[22:10:49] <ringo32> xfce tiles a little bit[22:10:56] <day|flip> just change the window manager to awesomewm[22:10:57] <dodgejcr> horribly ringo32 lol[22:11:03] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.94.196> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:11:13] <ringo32> http://i.imgur.com/KSetSbF.png[22:11:14] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/R8XzO8] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[22:11:20] <dodgejcr> yeah day|flip i used it in the past but lxqt was....[22:11:22] <dodgejcr> very new[22:11:39] <ringo32> i dont have QT in my system[22:11:41] <day|flip> back when it was 0.7?[22:11:48] <ringo32> i also dont have vlc :)[22:12:01] <day|flip> mpv ftw[22:12:06] <ringo32> gnome-mpv :)[22:13:01] <dodgejcr> day|flip: yeah probably .7, about 2 years ago[22:13:09] <dodgejcr> they were just becoming a thing[22:13:13] <day|flip> ya[22:13:28] <day|flip> i see. i was not a fan back then too[22:13:32] <dodgejcr> mpv is amazing but I still use vlc for other things[22:13:41] <day|flip> but now It been my main de[22:14:02] <ringo32> i removed al qt stuff :p[22:14:03] <day|flip> dodgejcr, like what?[22:14:12] <dodgejcr> movies with subtitles[22:14:16] <dodgejcr> not so easy in mpv[22:14:29] <day|flip> mpv --sub-auto=all[22:14:39] <dodgejcr> or binge watching tv shows (also with subtitles) so playlists[22:14:59] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@67-5-245-249.ptld.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:15:06] <dodgejcr> for some reason subtitles (*.srt) and mpv dont work so well with me[22:15:26] <dodgejcr> ive gotten it to work a few times[22:15:39] <dodgejcr> vlc is easier for me lol[22:15:51] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@user-36c5b4e.cable.mindspring.com> has joined #manjaro[22:16:37] <day|flip> i know what you mean. that command ^^ works. but mpv really picky on name of the subtitles. if it not the same. it will not used by default[22:16:57] <dodgejcr> trying out vimium on chrome.... not bad[22:17:16] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~manjaro@5E1BBCEE.mobile.pool.telekom.hu> has joined #manjaro[22:17:20] <ringo32> and gnome-mpv ? FTW[22:17:22] <ringo32> :p[22:17:34] <day|flip> i don't care for vim style keybinding on ff or chromium[22:17:42] <day|flip> not anymore[22:18:21] <ringo32> http://i.imgur.com/gdVbaFv.png[22:18:21] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/B4SwF9] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[22:18:22] <ringo32> :p[22:18:26] <dodgejcr> well vimperator on FF sucks bad[22:19:11] <dodgejcr> well, most of them suck. But this one is... decent. I wish I can specify what keys can be hint keys[22:19:57] <dodgejcr> it sort of scares me what ringo screenshots and shares here[22:20:09] <dodgejcr> Im always careful when opening the link[22:20:15] <ringo32> lol[22:20:29] *** Sailor <Sailor!~Sailor@p5DE39EF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[22:20:35] <dodgejcr> my wife is in the other room tho[22:20:41] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~manjaro@5E1BBCEE.mobile.pool.telekom.hu> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:21:07] *** Sailor <Sailor!~Sailor@p5DE39EF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:22:14] <day|flip> :)[22:22:19] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffcc> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:23:55] <day|flip> Will I been happy with my irc client. more so then I ever have with any others[22:24:08] <dodgejcr> what client?[22:25:16] <day|flip> The Lounge[22:25:19] <day|flip> http://i.imgur.com/iRhbXBz.png[22:25:20] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/W9JV1s] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[22:25:51] <dodgejcr> web based?[22:26:22] <d42> very loungy[22:26:41] <day|flip> :) yes it web based[22:26:52] <dodgejcr> with a local daemon?[22:26:54] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[22:27:08] <day|flip> https://thelounge.github.io/[22:27:08] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/cwJYnm] The Lounge — Self-hosted web IRC client[22:27:41] <day|flip> will it how i set the port[22:29:06] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891837.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:29:15] <dodgejcr> interesting[22:29:18] <day|flip> tbh it fit my style a lot more[22:29:21] <dodgejcr> might try it out some day[22:29:29] <dodgejcr> still happy with weechat for now tho[22:29:30] <day|flip> it in the aur[22:36:21] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@188.134.13.21> has joined #manjaro[22:36:24] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@188.134.13.21> has quit IRC (Client 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