February 21, 2016 
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February 21, 2016 [00:00:54] <slazer> Kalinos: No, it is not. I do not like KDE, because I find it buggy. I use Gnome3, which is a community version of Manjaro linux.[00:01:25] <mtn> slazer: you can install gnome on any version of manjaro, too[00:01:41] <H-H-H> can install gnome on any linux lol[00:01:46] <H-H-H> and hi ppls[00:02:15] <slazer> you can also bake bread on a pan..[00:02:22] <Kalinos> slazer: buggy? what do you mean?[00:02:27] <H-H-H> btw mtn you left yesterday before i had a chance to apologise as it appeared i was being rude yesterday and that wasnt my intention[00:02:41] <mtn> H-H-H: ok, no worries[00:02:50] <H-H-H> slazer yes you can and no doubt some ppl do[00:03:30] <H-H-H> im now running 64bit mtn lol and not really noticed much difference except stuff works lol[00:03:32] <mike-zal2> slazer, taskbar is needed for fully functional transparency[00:03:51] <mtn> H-H-H: right, not much difference in what you can see[00:04:03] *** Smeef has quit IRC[00:04:04] <slazer> Kalinos: The desktor enviroments wars are hell. Everybody will favout his desktop environment. Its often an opinion war. My favourite desktop environment is Gnome3, your might be KDE.[00:04:05] <H-H-H> this is my first 64bit system lol[00:04:07] *** charlesay has joined #manjaro[00:04:14] <slazer> Kalinos: *favour[00:04:18] <mtn> mike-zal2: the activities extension gives a transparent panel[00:04:24] <mike-zal2> when you install taskbar and dynamic transparency, then it works like on elemntary os. transparent but changing to full color when windows is maximized[00:04:28] <H-H-H> my favourite DE is xfce[00:04:58] <H-H-H> although im still trying to decide if i want to install compiz on this system[00:04:59] <mike-zal2> mtn, yes but it won't work as well and dynamic as the combo of dynamic and taskbar[00:06:38] <mike-zal2> H-H-H, if not compiz, try at least compton. the look will improve, but you won't get those flasy effects as wobblt windows, but still xfce will look nicely as kde 5.[00:07:07] <slazer> mtn: The Dynamic transparency is working with or without the TaskBar Extension.[00:07:38] <slazer> mtn: never mind, I just dont like it..will go on to the other you suggested[00:07:38] <H-H-H> i had compiz on my 32bit xfce system and actuall liked it but really only installed it because i wanted the mouse highliter for when i do my youtube videos[00:08:11] <slazer> mtn: or mike-zal2 suggested..[00:08:12] *** konradb has joined #manjaro[00:08:19] <mike-zal2> slazer, try it with and without it, see the difference. or maybe it's just my install that works differently? but I tested it also on kde+gnome and it worke the same there[00:08:34] <konradb> hello. Today I updated my manjaro kde and I can't decrypt at boot.[00:08:42] <konradb> password is 100% correct, I have just chrooted it[00:09:36] <mike-zal2> uh, encryption is not my thing.[00:10:09] <konradb> :[[00:10:14] *** ZiggyS has joined #manjaro[00:10:23] <mtn> me either[00:10:40] <mtn> never seen the point of it[00:11:05] <konradb> xD[00:11:21] <konradb> if you don't have valuable data, no point yeah[00:11:26] <H-H-H> me either considering im the only one who has access to this machine[00:11:49] * mtn is not a secret agent[00:12:18] <H-H-H> nope its definately not a secret lol[00:12:24] <mike-zal2> it would make sense if you would use system in a company, a big one, with patents and lot of voulnerable data[00:13:39] *** mikebravo has joined #manjaro[00:13:55] *** manjaro-kde5 has quit IRC[00:14:54] *** mikebravo has quit IRC[00:15:05] *** manjaro-kde5- has quit IRC[00:15:07] *** slazer has quit IRC[00:15:54] *** mikebravo has joined #manjaro[00:17:41] *** CountryfiedLinux has joined #manjaro[00:20:04] *** mike-zal2 has quit IRC[00:21:52] *** mikebravo has quit IRC[00:22:10] <v0id09> I installed manjaro-kde 16.06-dev (64 bit) and I don't see update manager installed. is this version supposed to be updated some other way or.. ?[00:22:16] *** superbia1 has quit IRC[00:22:19] *** charlesay has quit IRC[00:22:29] *** xangua has joined #manjaro[00:23:06] <mtn> v0id09: is there a package manager installed? pamac or octopi?[00:23:44] <v0id09> mtn octopi is there, yes[00:23:54] <mtn> v0id09: that is the update manager, too[00:24:05] <mtn> v0id09: look in the settings[00:25:05] <v0id09> mtn setting of octopi?[00:25:11] <mtn> v0id09: yes[00:26:18] <v0id09> mtn from what i can see it doesn't have a settings window, i looked through all the menus[00:26:55] *** Kalinos has quit IRC[00:27:02] <mtn> v0id09: hm, I am not on manjaro at the moment and gnome comes with pamac, but I bet octopi does have settings somewhere[00:27:05] *** CountryfiedLinux has quit IRC[00:27:20] <mtn> v0id09: paste a screenshot?[00:27:21] *** Kalinos has joined #manjaro[00:29:50] <mtn> v0id09: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Octopi[00:29:51] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/RuyrDv] Octopi - Manjaro Linux[00:31:41] *** nicklas_ has joined #manjaro[00:37:34] *** manjaro-kde5 has joined #manjaro[00:37:46] *** Guest-fi has joined #manjaro[00:38:29] <Guest-fi> hello. Im trying to find out what is best linux package manager[00:38:37] <Guest-fi> or newest[00:39:07] *** naringas has quit IRC[00:39:58] <nicklas_> yo[00:40:52] <nicklas_> Guest-fi: different dists have different package managers, manjaro uses pacman, pamac and octopi are the guis for it[00:41:09] *** IvanMaldonado has joined #manjaro[00:42:26] <v0id09> mtn, I think it needs octopi-notifier installed for it to show updates automatically in the tray. anyway, I will try to install the stable iso, maybe that one has more configurations/tweaks done by default[00:43:25] <mtn> v0id09: probably so[00:43:50] <mtn> Guest-fi: pacman is a very good one, that is for sure[00:43:51] <v0id09> mtn I am actually trying to find a suitable linux replacement for windows 10.[00:44:07] <mtn> v0id09: any linux will be an improvement :P[00:44:11] *** CTtechguy has joined #manjaro[00:44:26] *** nicklas_ has quit IRC[00:44:28] <v0id09> right now I am testing various distros in virtualbox, but I want it the other way around, to test windows in virtualbox :)[00:45:01] <ringo32> v0id09, try windows 3.11 is a good wwindows :-)[00:45:04] <v0id09> mtn any linux is an improvement in many ways, but I still couldn't find something similar to the windows 10 desktop experience[00:45:16] <v0id09> ringo32, i used it for several years back in the days[00:45:20] <mtn> v0id09: similar in waht way?[00:45:52] <v0id09> well the speed and the way the taskbar works mainly[00:46:26] <mtn> v0id09: I have never used it, but the ones with most features in linux land are kde, gnome, cinnamon, unit, xfce[00:46:41] <mtn> v0id09: oops, menat unity[00:46:43] <v0id09> grouping windows from the same process in one icon, as another example[00:47:04] <v0id09> is unity the one that ubuntu comes with by default ? if so, I could never get used to that[00:47:23] <mtn> v0id09: yes, that is it[00:47:42] <mtn> v0id09: you will have to get used to some new things switching oses[00:47:47] <v0id09> i can't imagine why they bothered with it. i totally fail to see the point in that.[00:48:25] <mtn> v0id09: some very smart people like it and designed it[00:48:29] *** Joshua^Dunamis has quit IRC[00:48:32] <v0id09> mtn for sure, but not too many things. I have too many windows habbits[00:48:49] <mtn> v0id09: stick with windows, then[00:49:15] <v0id09> mtn I wouldn't be here if i wanted to :)[00:49:28] <mtn> v0id09: then choose a de and get used to it ;)[00:49:50] <v0id09> mtn I am in the process of doing that. also in the process of choosing a distro[00:50:02] <v0id09> so far manjaro looks like the best candidate[00:50:06] <mtn> v0id09: ok, do you have any manjaro questions?[00:50:13] <v0id09> I will[00:50:26] <mtn> v0id09: do you know what a rolling distro is?[00:50:32] <v0id09> yes[00:50:42] <mtn> v0id09: do you know manjaro is based on arch linux?[00:50:46] <v0id09> of course[00:51:02] <v0id09> I used arch linux like 8-9 years ago, but not so long a time[00:51:06] <mtn> v0id09: ok, then I think it is a good choice if you think that fits your needs[00:52:11] <v0id09> the perfect one would be gentoo or sabayon, but I really don't have the time/patience anymore to spend hours online bugfixing things[00:52:56] <v0id09> just want something that has the latest packages available and good tools for administration[00:52:59] <mtn> v0id09: that is as unlike windows as you could choose. pretty funny[00:53:09] <Guest-fi> what distro have biggest repository? that could be easy all that matters[00:53:53] *** Batch has joined #manjaro[00:53:54] <mtn> Guest-fi: probably arch/manjaro[00:54:34] <v0id09> i found everything i needed in arch + aur, even alpha versions i was not even aware that are public[00:56:47] *** ringo32 has quit IRC[00:57:16] *** mtn has quit IRC[00:57:23] <v0id09> if i'm not mistaken, manjaro is to arch what ubuntu/mint is to debian, no ?[00:58:09] *** x0g has joined #manjaro[01:00:10] *** x0g has quit IRC[01:01:08] <Lowl3v3l> v0id09, in a sense, yes.[01:01:29] *** grntmb_ has quit IRC[01:01:32] <Lowl3v3l> v0id09, but not as incompatible[01:01:40] <Lowl3v3l> Guest-fi, i suppose debian could be the one[01:09:04] *** snele has quit IRC[01:12:16] *** snele has joined #manjaro[01:13:12] *** snele has quit IRC[01:14:14] *** Joshua^Dunamis has joined #manjaro[01:14:31] *** Joshua^Dunamis has quit IRC[01:15:52] <H-H-H> lol[01:15:53] *** snele has joined #manjaro[01:17:23] *** Joshua^Dunamis has joined #manjaro[01:17:29] *** Na3iL has quit IRC[01:18:09] *** Guest-fi has quit IRC[01:18:50] *** snele has joined #manjaro[01:20:13] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[01:25:43] <dodgejcr_> morning[01:26:27] <H-H-H> whats the package for record my desktop called[01:26:44] *** Rorro has quit IRC[01:28:00] *** holmeslinux has quit IRC[01:28:52] *** snele has quit IRC[01:29:16] *** badbodh has quit IRC[01:30:28] *** holmeslinux has joined #manjaro[01:30:37] *** neupuceni has left #manjaro[01:33:41] *** manjaro-kde5- has joined #manjaro[01:34:25] *** manjaro-kde5- has quit IRC[01:53:48] *** johnvan has joined #manjaro[01:54:08] *** manjaro-kde5 has quit IRC[01:54:17] *** manjaro-web|4807 has joined #manjaro[01:55:17] *** manjaro-web|4807 has quit IRC[01:55:21] *** nicklas_ has joined #manjaro[01:56:32] *** Conflict has quit IRC[01:56:38] *** Conflict has joined #manjaro[01:58:22] *** H-H-H has quit IRC[01:59:28] *** nicklas_ has quit IRC[01:59:52] *** mozzoni has joined #manjaro[02:00:16] *** mozzoni has quit IRC[02:01:09] *** ZiggyS has quit IRC[02:01:28] *** Tjong has quit IRC[02:01:57] *** NoSyK has quit IRC[02:02:41] *** NolanSyKinsley has joined #manjaro[02:03:51] *** robin0800 has quit IRC[02:05:01] *** alexandros_c has joined #manjaro[02:06:45] *** holmeslinux has quit IRC[02:06:45] *** holmeslinux has joined #manjaro[02:06:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v holmeslinux[02:07:18] *** s8321414 has joined #manjaro[02:10:04] *** nicklas_ has joined #manjaro[02:13:45] *** nicklas_ has quit IRC[02:25:28] *** IvanMaldonado has quit IRC[02:26:56] *** Lowl3v3l has quit IRC[02:32:46] *** darksim has quit IRC[02:32:57] *** linux_dream has joined #manjaro[02:34:10] *** CountryfiedLinux has joined #manjaro[02:35:32] *** flipper-maniac has quit IRC[02:38:45] <CountryfiedLinux> Screenshots! :D http://imgur.com/a/0KffP[02:38:45] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/uhGcJm] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[02:42:00] *** Smeef has joined #manjaro[02:43:46] *** Smeef has quit IRC[02:45:59] *** manjaro-web|8504 has joined #manjaro[02:54:11] *** linux_dream has quit IRC[02:54:20] *** Smeef has joined #manjaro[03:05:03] *** Cr4ck3r has quit IRC[03:07:26] *** Cr4ck3r has joined #manjaro[03:12:14] *** Smeef has quit IRC[03:12:57] *** AJSlye has joined #manjaro[03:14:04] *** AJSlye has left #manjaro[03:16:10] *** jsamyth has joined #manjaro[03:25:13] *** tripped has joined #manjaro[03:42:04] *** jsamyth is now known as jsamythAFK[03:42:13] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[03:43:58] *** johnvan has quit IRC[03:45:02] *** manots has joined #manjaro[03:48:28] <manots> hello all[03:49:06] <jsamyth> yo manots.[03:50:14] <jsamyth> Has anyone noticed a slowly growing memory usage in KDE Konversation under Manjaro?[03:51:05] <manots> idk[03:52:18] *** jasonwert has joined #manjaro[03:54:12] <manots> is it okay if i go off topic for a sec or has the rules changed?[03:56:16] *** Joshua^Dunamis has quit IRC[03:58:04] <jsamyth> manots: its not like the channel is super busy,...[03:58:51] <manots> eh what the hey i'm thought i could assemble a freenode team for a game of irc cards against humanity on another irc server[03:58:59] <manots> *i thought[04:01:20] <jsamyth> Is there a channel to join for that? (I've never played IRC cards...)[04:02:10] <manots> its on another irc server tho[04:02:18] <manots> its irc.goat.chat #ircah[04:09:06] *** Monro has quit IRC[04:28:11] *** s8321414 has quit IRC[04:33:45] *** CountryfiedLinux has quit IRC[04:37:45] *** Manj-1509-Lxde has joined #manjaro[04:37:51] *** jsamyth is now known as jsamythAFK[04:41:07] *** bsdtux has joined #manjaro[04:41:13] *** Manj-1509-Lxde has quit IRC[04:41:15] *** bsdtux has quit IRC[04:41:37] *** bsdtux has joined #manjaro[04:41:58] *** bsdtux01 has joined #manjaro[04:44:50] *** bsdtux has quit IRC[04:47:51] *** NolanSyKinsley has quit IRC[04:49:57] *** NolanSyKinsley has joined #manjaro[04:53:35] *** malvidx has joined #manjaro[04:58:17] *** NolanSyKinsley has quit IRC[04:58:57] *** NolanSyKinsley has joined #manjaro[05:03:26] *** Mate-user1512 has joined #manjaro[05:05:44] *** Mate-user1512 has quit IRC[05:07:42] *** gutgro has joined #manjaro[05:08:37] *** gutgro has left #manjaro[05:13:15] *** Kalinos has quit IRC[05:14:47] *** NolanSyKinsley has quit IRC[05:15:04] *** Guest23831 has quit IRC[05:16:29] *** manjaro-kde5_ has quit IRC[05:18:48] *** Batch has quit IRC[05:20:47] *** badbodh has joined #manjaro[05:20:48] *** jasonwert_ has joined #manjaro[05:21:22] *** Fritz has joined #manjaro[05:21:46] *** Fritz is now known as Guest78141[05:21:48] *** Batch has joined #manjaro[05:23:32] *** jasonwert has quit IRC[05:26:52] *** Batch has quit IRC[05:29:45] *** Batch has joined #manjaro[05:36:18] *** Smeef has joined #manjaro[05:38:37] *** No1RL355 has joined #manjaro[05:46:04] *** bsdtux01 has quit IRC[05:46:55] *** bleu has joined #manjaro[05:48:22] *** Monro has joined #manjaro[05:51:00] *** mewshi has quit IRC[05:51:40] *** No1RL355 has quit IRC[05:51:59] *** bleu has quit IRC[05:52:38] <fractal> is safely removing a USB stick supposed to hang indefinitely after formatting it to NTFS and adding a fairly large file to it?[05:52:47] <fractal> it seems to never eject and it corrupts each time i remove it[05:52:49] <fractal> :([05:53:41] *** Bullterrier has quit IRC[05:54:09] <fractal> i will try different usb stick. this one might suck[05:54:55] *** xstefen has quit IRC[05:57:23] *** mewshi has joined #manjaro[05:59:20] *** xstefen has joined #manjaro[05:59:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v xstefen[06:06:05] *** Zenther has quit IRC[06:19:50] *** nemo--newb-- has joined #manjaro[06:22:56] *** nemo--newb-- has left #manjaro[06:28:13] *** tefter has joined #manjaro[06:28:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tefter[06:32:46] *** badbodh has quit IRC[06:34:52] <Strit> fractal, yeah, it is probably still syncing to the device, so you have to let et finish.[06:37:38] *** CTtechguy has quit IRC[06:38:02] *** CTtechguy has joined #manjaro[06:42:29] *** CTtechguy has quit IRC[06:45:29] *** holmeslinux has quit IRC[06:46:08] *** xangua has quit IRC[06:59:19] *** baizon has joined #manjaro[07:05:23] *** walle303 has quit IRC[07:05:23] *** walle303 has joined #manjaro[07:26:53] *** Darknorth has joined #manjaro[07:44:24] *** Darknorth has quit IRC[07:47:00] *** xangua has joined #manjaro[07:50:46] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[07:57:21] *** `Eddie has joined #manjaro[08:06:48] *** Kuvis has joined #manjaro[08:24:56] *** jsamyth is now known as jsamythAFK[08:34:16] *** kalinko has joined #manjaro[08:36:17] *** `Eddie has quit IRC[08:40:41] *** r00t66 has joined #manjaro[08:42:23] *** sashage has joined #manjaro[08:48:45] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[08:51:10] *** r00t66 has quit IRC[08:54:29] *** Guest78141 has quit IRC[08:59:44] *** Vlado9A3CY has joined #manjaro[09:00:15] *** techknight has joined #manjaro[09:00:17] <Vlado9A3CY> hello world[09:01:06] <techknight> Hi. are any of you running manjaro deepin? and in that case how do you connect to a OpenVPN Server? the VPN features is missing under network settings?[09:02:48] <Vlado9A3CY> techknight: I have manjaro cinnamon here and I don't use openvpn, I have no experience with openvpn at all[09:03:08] <techknight> Vlado9A3CY: Wtf man ? Lol[09:03:26] <Vlado9A3CY> ;)[09:08:57] *** Matombo has joined #manjaro[09:09:18] *** jsamyth is now known as jsamythAFK[09:11:11] *** Fritz has joined #manjaro[09:11:34] *** Fritz is now known as Guest23993[09:16:29] *** Lainemi has joined #manjaro[09:25:33] <zero-ghost> techknight: you can always configure it through terminal[09:25:37] <zero-ghost> dont ask me the commands though :-p[09:26:17] <techknight> zero-ghost: I have tried but it is like the traffic isn't tunneled through the vpn? I can't access my local domains and such[09:27:11] *** mike-zal has joined #manjaro[09:29:57] <zero-ghost> yea im not the pro that can help you with the command line stuff and i dont know how deepin's network manager works[09:30:52] <techknight> well I think deeping works like any other manjaro distros[09:31:38] <zero-ghost> im workin on a bunch of stuff right this second or i'd boot a deepin vm and check it out[09:31:42] <zero-ghost> sry[09:31:51] <techknight> its okay ;)[09:31:58] <techknight> I think I will figure it out[09:32:16] <mike-zal> love deepin, if only was better on resources and not so buggy on some computers. there were moments it was working without problems, but then it stopped working for me, not sure why[09:32:43] <mike-zal> never had any issue with network on it[09:32:49] *** Guest23993 has quit IRC[09:32:58] *** TA has joined #manjaro[09:34:05] <techknight> 51[09:34:05] <techknight> 15[09:34:09] <techknight> ups[09:34:20] *** chr_ has joined #manjaro[09:34:29] <TA> I'm running a dual monitor setup at the moment but I want to connect a third one. intel ivybridge and no dedicated graphic card. xrandr detects the screen but when I switch it on, it doesn't have any signals[09:34:37] <techknight> year deepin manjaro looks like a greatand distracton free distro![09:34:54] <TA> Does anyone has a tip for me?[09:35:56] *** kalinko has quit IRC[09:38:05] <techknight> does the computer detect the third screen?[09:38:10] <TA> yes[09:38:15] <techknight> sry my fail[09:38:36] <TA> xfce even shows it in the Monitor Settings, but it stays "deactivated"[09:38:50] <techknight> and you can't activate it there ?[09:39:06] <mike-zal> never used multiscreen setup, so I can't help[09:39:30] <TA> I did, it shows up on my availible monitors (the small preview in the taskbar, where you can switch with ctrl+alt)[09:40:01] <TA> but it doesn't show anything, the monitor itself keeps saying that there is no signal[09:41:53] *** Vlado9A3CY_ has joined #manjaro[09:42:43] *** ringo32 has joined #manjaro[09:42:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ringo32[09:45:03] *** Vlado9A3CY has quit IRC[09:46:35] *** mike-zal has quit IRC[09:47:16] *** snele has joined #manjaro[09:48:53] *** techknight has quit IRC[09:54:08] *** chr_ has quit IRC[10:00:17] *** No1RL355 has joined #manjaro[10:00:27] *** bsfd has joined #manjaro[10:00:31] <No1RL355> http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994[10:00:31] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/bjZatt] The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Beware of hacked ISOs if you downloaded Linux Mint on February 20th![10:00:38] <No1RL355> just notified[10:00:46] *** bsfd has quit IRC[10:00:48] <No1RL355> probably manjaro may be target too[10:02:20] *** bsfd has joined #manjaro[10:04:09] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[10:08:33] *** tripped has quit IRC[10:12:15] <zero-ghost> they need to be running their server with firejail[10:12:20] <zero-ghost> god damn wordpress[10:12:39] *** Vlado9A3CY_ is now known as Vlado9A3CY[10:12:49] *** Vlado9A3CY has quit IRC[10:12:50] *** Vlado9A3CY has joined #manjaro[10:14:58] *** Wildfyr has joined #manjaro[10:25:21] *** v0id09 has quit IRC[10:25:29] *** grntmb_ has joined #manjaro[10:25:44] *** Bullterrier has joined #manjaro[10:26:53] *** `Eddie has joined #manjaro[10:27:33] *** Unit_A has joined #manjaro[10:27:33] *** Unit_A has joined #manjaro[10:28:06] *** aditya__ has joined #manjaro[10:28:26] <aditya__> you guys, how do i hibernate this thing[10:28:36] <aditya__> sudo pm-hibernate doesnt seem to work[10:28:38] *** Unit_A has quit IRC[10:29:36] *** superbia has joined #manjaro[10:31:57] *** `Eddie has quit IRC[10:33:22] *** Lowl3v3l has joined #manjaro[10:33:24] *** aditya__ has quit IRC[10:34:09] *** tefter has quit IRC[10:44:40] *** manjaro-web|8067 has joined #manjaro[10:44:48] <manjaro-web|8067> Ohai![10:45:19] <manjaro-web|8067> Anyone here using manjaro wm respin ?[10:47:11] *** Joshua^Dunamis has joined #manjaro[10:49:52] *** manjaro-web|8067 has left #manjaro[10:51:08] *** `Eddie has joined #manjaro[10:51:12] *** Matombo has quit IRC[10:51:50] *** No1RL355 has quit IRC[10:53:29] *** Strit_Laptop has joined #manjaro[10:53:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[10:53:52] *** Joshua_Dunamis has joined #manjaro[10:53:55] *** Joshua^Dunamis has quit IRC[10:54:44] <Strit_Laptop> GPU question: I'm trying to use PRIME to use my ATI card on my Intel/ATI setup, but "xrandr --listproviders" only show my intel card. I have both video-intel and video-ati installed. What am I doinh wrong?[10:55:17] *** manjaro-kde5_ has joined #manjaro[10:55:38] *** grntmb_ has quit IRC[10:56:08] *** xangua has quit IRC[10:58:03] *** Matombo has joined #manjaro[10:58:20] *** Matombo has joined #manjaro[11:03:06] <ringo32> mhwd -li shows bumblebnee ?[11:03:58] *** `Eddie has quit IRC[11:04:02] <Strit_Laptop> ringo32, no. I uninstalled bumblebee and installed video-intel and video-ati. The bumblebee daemon could not start anyway.[11:05:09] <ringo32> hmmmm https://twitter.com/SteveD3/status/701297196289781762[11:05:09] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/X78GpI] Steve Ragan op Twitter: "LinuxMint didn't just have their ISOs backdoored. Their server and forum were dumped. It's up for sale online, asking price is ~$85 USD"[11:05:48] <ringo32> Strit_Laptop, weird bumblebee also used only video-ati[11:05:56] <ringo32> was only a glue to load intoo the desktop[11:06:27] *** manjaro-kde5 has joined #manjaro[11:06:57] <Strit_Laptop> I still get into the desktop. But xrandr can not see my ati gpu somehow. But MSM and inxi does.[11:10:01] <ringo32> prime is also not the way to do ?[11:10:26] <ringo32> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/catalyst-total-pxp/[11:10:26] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/7n2hIy] AUR (en) - catalyst-total-pxp[11:10:29] *** manjaro-kde5- has joined #manjaro[11:10:32] <ringo32> pxp is better vor ati[11:10:42] <ringo32> but the howtoo i dont know[11:11:13] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as Sander[11:11:21] *** Sander is now known as sander990[11:11:33] *** manjaro-kde5_ has quit IRC[11:12:11] *** peteyy has joined #manjaro[11:13:13] <peteyy> There is a specific behaviour in OS X that I miss, it hides the cursor when I'm typing in any app, is there a way to reproduce this in manjaro?[11:13:25] <ringo32> Strit_Laptop, on that point are you on your own because you break mhwd a bit[11:14:58] *** s8321414 has joined #manjaro[11:15:32] *** badbodh has joined #manjaro[11:18:04] *** tefter has joined #manjaro[11:18:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tefter[11:18:31] *** jsamyth is now known as jsamythAFK[11:18:46] *** kisol has joined #manjaro[11:20:24] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[11:20:55] *** Kartenmann has joined #manjaro[11:21:01] *** sander990 has quit IRC[11:21:42] *** mike-zal has joined #manjaro[11:25:02] *** manjaro-kde5- has joined #manjaro[11:25:02] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as sander990[11:26:33] *** kisol has quit IRC[11:27:18] *** Kuvis has quit IRC[11:28:38] *** manjaro-kde5- has joined #manjaro[11:31:21] *** sander990 has quit IRC[11:31:58] <Strit_Laptop> ringo32, I'm not using catalyst, since that will not boot on the laptop. I'm using ati/radeon driver.[11:33:00] *** manjaro-kde5- has quit IRC[11:33:18] *** manjaro-kde5- has joined #manjaro[11:33:52] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as PerlinNoise[11:35:33] <ringo32> there is a manual switcher[11:36:33] <ringo32> vga-switcheroo[11:37:03] <ringo32> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/systemd-vgaswitcheroo-units/[11:37:04] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/Phj20p] AUR (en) - systemd-vgaswitcheroo-units[11:37:26] <ringo32> you switch in a session then reboot[11:38:05] <ringo32> seems acpi-call something exist[11:38:55] <mike-zal> ringo32, is there another way to log out from session then using ctrl+alt+backspace?[11:39:12] <mike-zal> I mean, by using keyboard[11:39:27] <zero-ghost> ctrl+alt+del in KDE[11:39:41] <zero-ghost> brings up logout prompt, can also choose restart/shutdown[11:39:59] <mike-zal> in gnome right now. run compiz and desktop is gone so I can[11:40:08] <mike-zal> t use gui to log ooff[11:40:37] <mike-zal> while the shortcut I posted turns off all extentions and I have to turn them on back again..[11:40:41] *** M_aD_ has joined #manjaro[11:40:42] <zero-ghost> never used gnome and dont have the iso to boot a VM sry[11:40:52] *** bsfd has quit IRC[11:41:18] <mike-zal> nope, kde shortcut doesn't work[11:41:21] *** manjaro_user has joined #manjaro[11:41:32] <manjaro_user> hi[11:41:53] <manjaro_user> I want to uprade from kde to plasma5[11:41:58] <mike-zal> ok, nevermind, I'll live with it[11:42:01] *** mike-zal has quit IRC[11:42:16] <manjaro_user> https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=18225.0[11:42:17] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/8ulrBi] Upgrade KDE 4 installation to Plasma 5[11:42:26] <manjaro_user> does not work for me[11:42:49] <manjaro_user> sudo pacman -R kdebase-workspace[11:43:10] *** mike-zal has joined #manjaro[11:43:27] <mike-zal> back, strangly this time my extentions were unharmed ;p[11:43:29] <manjaro_user> Fehler: Konnte den Vorgang nicht vorbereiten (Kann Abhängigkeiten nicht erfüllen)[11:43:47] <mike-zal> manjaro_user, did you try with the instructions on manjaro forum?[11:44:07] <mike-zal> manjaro_user, it tells you you lack of some package[11:44:20] <manjaro_user> step2, does not work[11:44:41] <ringo32> ctrl-alt-f4 :)[11:44:50] <mike-zal> so basically, you have something on your system that prevents other package to install and the the other is crutial for your install[11:44:59] <mike-zal> so you need to deinstall something first[11:45:02] *** Deepin1601 has joined #manjaro[11:45:05] <ringo32> just remove dconf[11:45:15] <ringo32> you get orgibnal configs[11:45:19] <manjaro_user> step1: tells me[11:45:21] <mike-zal> no idea what thou. there are some users here who know that[11:45:23] <ringo32> if you not removed mutter[11:45:24] <manjaro_user> Fehler: Ziel nicht gefunden: Required[11:45:25] <manjaro_user> Fehler: Ziel nicht gefunden: By[11:45:27] <manjaro_user> Fehler: Ziel nicht gefunden: :[11:45:46] <ringo32> make sure compiz is not in autostart anymore[11:45:51] *** flipper-maniac has joined #manjaro[11:46:01] <mike-zal> ringo32, no, it's not autostared[11:46:17] <mike-zal> ringo32, here is my thread on forum: https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=31363.msg257716#msg257716[11:46:17] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/6sTrjv] How to use compiz in Gnome?[11:46:23] <ringo32> gnome configs basicly in ~/.config/dconf[11:47:06] <ringo32> thats temporarely and reboot stil do the same ?[11:47:24] <mike-zal> yes, with reloging session I go back to mutter[11:47:29] *** Deepin1601 has left #manjaro[11:47:38] *** Tjong has joined #manjaro[11:48:10] <mike-zal> ringo32, did I understand it right, you adviced me to remove dconf then run compiz?[11:48:25] <mike-zal> can I install dconf again after that?[11:48:52] <ringo32> you get a basic gnome but[11:49:10] <mike-zal> it also sounds serious and I'm afraid that system will fall appart without dconf[11:49:14] <ringo32> remember gnome3 is a different monster then gnome2[11:49:32] <ringo32> dconf config are the all gnome configs in it[11:49:43] <ringo32> it does not breaks only loose personal configurations[11:49:58] <ringo32> but if you do pacman -R dconf then it breaks[11:50:09] <mike-zal> is there no way to just switch default configs in dconf editor?[11:50:12] <ringo32> ~/.config/dconf used for personal configs[11:50:39] *** manjaro-web|7535 has joined #manjaro[11:50:42] <ringo32> gnome3 use mutter and its a frontend of clutter its very different then metacity[11:50:51] *** manjaro-web|7535 has quit IRC[11:50:51] <ringo32> metacity was a WM on itself[11:51:10] <ringo32> on design compiz is far away from gnome3[11:51:20] *** Deepin1601 has joined #manjaro[11:51:37] <mike-zal> manjaro_user, stick around. somene should show here who know how to help you.[11:51:55] *** Kerd has joined #manjaro[11:51:56] *** Kerd has joined #manjaro[11:51:56] <ringo32> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162990[11:51:57] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/kcAwgs] [solved] Gnome3 + Compiz / Applications & Desktop Environments / Arch Linux Forums[11:52:47] <manjaro_user> i do not know what i have to do[11:53:40] <ringo32> on which desktop are you on?[11:54:02] <mike-zal> he's on kde4 and wants to update to plasma 5[11:54:18] <mike-zal> ringo32, they say on the forum: It is not possible to run GNOME 3 and Compiz together.[11:55:13] <mike-zal> so I can run compiz in flashback but not in gnome3 or is this statement just general, meaning: there is no simple way to make it work, but it can work when you do some workarounds?[11:55:25] <ringo32> flashback is still gnome3[11:55:34] <ringo32> basicly .??[11:55:40] <mike-zal> not sure about that...[11:55:45] <mike-zal> I can[11:55:54] <mike-zal> I can't force it to look like gnome3[11:56:21] <ringo32> mike-zal, you could look at this :) https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_Flashback[11:56:21] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/S2AWFP] GNOME Flashback - ArchWiki[11:56:23] <mike-zal> standard gnome classic is just gnome 3 with some preconfigured extentions. gnome flashback seems to go way deeper[11:56:24] <manjaro_user> ringo32, that does not work for me, https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=18225.0[11:56:24] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/8ulrBi] Upgrade KDE 4 installation to Plasma 5[11:56:33] *** JohnML has quit IRC[11:56:44] *** deathonater has joined #manjaro[11:56:57] <ringo32> manjaro_user, your update is blocked right ?[11:56:59] *** Kuvis has joined #manjaro[11:56:59] <mike-zal> manjaro_user, you need to deinstall something first, but not sure what[11:57:20] <mike-zal> ringo32, his updated couldn't resolve dependencies[11:57:31] <mike-zal> updater*[11:57:35] *** JohnML has joined #manjaro[11:57:55] <ringo32> pastebin that update will seee ..[11:57:56] <mike-zal> so he misses some step, probably deinstaling some packages[11:58:11] <mike-zal> ringo32, it's in german, I can understand it[11:58:19] <mike-zal> although, you might too...[11:59:35] *** Strit_Laptop has left #manjaro[12:00:16] *** Smeef has quit IRC[12:00:48] <mike-zal> by the way, it's interesting that in manjaro kde I had all in polish, while in gnome terminal seems to be mostly in english[12:01:03] *** cyberalex4life has joined #manjaro[12:01:27] <manjaro_user> i will work on it, and tell you next time[12:02:18] *** xspeed has quit IRC[12:03:29] <mike-zal> manjaro_user, do I understand right that system can't use this command: sudo pacman -R $(LANG=C pacman -Qi kdebase-workspace | grep "Req" | sed -e 's/Required By : //g')[12:03:41] <mike-zal> and it returns some errors?[12:05:10] <ringo32> is sed and replaces some basic commands[12:06:07] <mike-zal> ringo32, by the way. I tried wayland session. there was no screan tearing there, but mouse cursor was not right, hanging all the time and animations of it were frozen. on windows cursor became invisible, was showed only on desktop, so wayland was not usable.[12:06:16] *** Deepin1601 has quit IRC[12:06:27] *** cyberalex4life has quit IRC[12:06:32] *** Deepin1601 has joined #manjaro[12:06:36] <ringo32> mayby of the xorg[12:06:54] *** cyberalex4life has joined #manjaro[12:06:59] <ringo32> have too shop, before you made me wanna use gnome :)[12:07:08] <mike-zal> lol[12:07:54] <mike-zal> will see what people on forum will say. I'm not ready to mess with dconf. sounds drastical... ;)[12:09:05] <mike-zal> besides I didn't understand the part of removing it, because you also said that the removing command would mess my system, so it looks I missed something, so that is why it's not wise from my side to rush into it[12:09:21] *** cyberalex4life has quit IRC[12:10:41] *** cyberalex4life has joined #manjaro[12:12:31] <mike-zal> am also confused about name of the default gnome composer. when wanting to turn it on by wm_name --replace, what name shoul I use? mutter? gnome-shell? screen fetch shows name GNOME Shell...[12:16:32] *** v0id09 has joined #manjaro[12:20:16] *** cyberalex4life has quit IRC[12:20:18] *** sdouble25 has joined #manjaro[12:20:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sdouble25[12:20:32] *** cyberalex4life has joined #manjaro[12:21:26] *** xspeed has joined #manjaro[12:21:36] *** CommunistWitchDr has quit IRC[12:21:36] *** cyberalex4life has joined #manjaro[12:22:17] *** cyberalex4life has quit 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often[15:40:16] *** iv3c has quit IRC[15:40:30] *** bobo_ has joined #manjaro[15:42:02] *** Lowl3v3l has quit IRC[15:43:24] *** H-H-H has quit IRC[15:43:41] *** Lowl3v3l has joined #manjaro[15:44:47] *** baizon has quit IRC[15:45:55] *** s8321414 has quit IRC[15:48:07] *** jsamyth has quit IRC[15:48:36] *** badbodh has quit IRC[15:52:44] *** peterocket has joined #manjaro[15:52:53] <peterocket> lol[15:53:06] <peterocket> I really wanted to like this distro... I really really tried to like it[15:53:10] <peterocket> but wtf[15:53:24] <peterocket> after getting the glibc critical patch 1 week after every other distro on this planet[15:53:32] *** glsmaxx has quit IRC[15:53:36] <peterocket> I now got locked out of my system after the lastest stable update[15:53:51] <peterocket> because I have the AUDACITY to use a luks encrypted / partition[15:53:55] <peterocket> what a joke[15:53:55] <peterocket> sorry[15:54:00] *** PMunch has joined #manjaro[15:54:34] <peterocket> I'm glad this all happened before I invested too much time in this[15:54:38] <Lowl3v3l> peterocket, stable takes some time, if you dont want to get it from testing or unstable dont complain.[15:54:54] <Lowl3v3l> and if you are making mistakes it is not the distros fault^^[15:55:10] <peterocket> Lowl3v3l: yes, except stable isn't stable and completely breaks a system, unless you use the exact same config as the main devs[15:55:14] <peterocket> it's the worst of both worlds[15:55:20] <peterocket> I made 0 mistakes[15:55:36] <Lowl3v3l> peterocket, oh so you are the genius and everybody else is stupid?^^[15:55:40] <mtn> peterocket: no way it could be user error. no way![15:56:10] <peterocket> the latest stable upgrade locks anyone out their system if the have a luks encrypted root partition[15:56:11] *** badbodh has joined #manjaro[15:56:15] <peterocket> what kind of joke is this?[15:56:25] <peterocket> it's not user error[15:56:30] <Lowl3v3l> peterocket, i kind of suspect you did something wrong.[15:56:32] <peterocket> it's extremely bad QA[15:56:46] <peterocket> Lowl3v3l: no I didn't. let me find you the link on the forum[15:57:21] <peterocket> https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=31356.msg257698#msg257698[15:57:23] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/44WT9k] [Update] 2016-02-21 - Kernels, KDE, Pamac, Firefox, Thunderbird, Lumina, Intel[15:57:37] <mtn> peterocket: that is serious if it affects every luks user[15:57:46] <peterocket> yes mtn it really is[15:57:56] <mtn> peterocket: notice I said "if"[15:58:04] <peterocket> read the link[15:58:37] <peterocket> I was able to fix it by chrooting from live cd, manually unlocking my luks partition and upgrading the kernel to 4.5rc[15:58:48] <peterocket> most "novice" users would be completely lost[15:58:54] <peterocket> and that's the main target of this distro[15:59:06] <mtn> peterocket: ok, so only some kernels are affected, so not "everybody"[15:59:18] <peterocket> mtn: pretty much all kernels are affected except 4.5[15:59:27] <peterocket> and I was using the default manjaro kernel[15:59:32] <Zenther> Kernels not affected by this: 3.12.54, 4.3.6, 4.4.2, 4.5-rc4[15:59:36] <manots> calm down peterocket[15:59:38] <Zenther> liar[15:59:41] <peterocket> whatever[15:59:56] <Zenther> whatever[15:59:58] <Zenther> lol[16:00:11] <Fingli> peterocket, do nivices use luks encription? :)[16:00:12] <Zenther> drama queen[16:00:13] <peterocket> bottom line is: a manjaro user with the default kernel and luks if fucked, unless they now hot to fix their system by chrooting and manually unlocking luks paritions[16:00:31] *** PerlinNoise has quit IRC[16:00:32] <peterocket> Fingli: luks is part of the installer![16:00:47] <TA> Uh I though 4.4.2 is affected too?[16:00:52] <Zenther> How-to fix[16:00:52] <Zenther> chroot into your existing Manjaro installation with example a working live-cd.[16:00:52] <Zenther> use pacman to update cryptsetup or install a kernel >= linux43[16:00:55] <Zenther> easy[16:00:57] <TA> At least this was written by philm earlier in the stable upgrade thread[16:01:19] <peterocket> Zenther: updating cryptsetup doesn't work if you encrypted the luks partition with the latest veryion of it already[16:01:30] <peterocket> read the full thread[16:02:15] <peterocket> you can defend this all you want, I'm just really glad it happened before I somehow convinced myself to use this for my main desktop[16:02:18] *** PerlinNoise has joined #manjaro[16:02:30] <Zenther> well, it isn't manjaro's shit... it is the devs upstream[16:02:47] <peterocket> then why does manjaro have unstable, testing and stable[16:02:56] <peterocket> if they don't even catch this?[16:03:03] <peterocket> I can just as well use arch proper then[16:03:12] <peterocket> and at least get critical security patches in time[16:03:19] <Zenther> well go to arch[16:03:25] <Zenther> no one stopping you[16:03:28] <peterocket> indeed[16:03:31] <Zenther> stop being a drama queen[16:03:38] <peterocket> stop being so defensive[16:04:06] <Zenther> and arch is dealing with the same crap[16:04:15] <mtn> peterocket: this is not a whining channel. if you need help, ask a question. if you want to whine, please go elsewhere[16:04:16] <manots> TIME\[16:04:25] <peterocket> k bye guys[16:04:29] *** peterocket has left #manjaro[16:04:37] <Zenther> what a drama queen[16:04:47] <manots> ^^[16:05:13] *** bobo_ has quit IRC[16:05:19] <Zenther> as if only manjaro deals with crapy upstream code changes[16:06:01] <Zenther> I am dealing with the same thing in arch with nvidia driver changes and have to use a special line to start steam[16:06:30] <Fingli> peterocket, nasty bugs are not uncoomin in linux world. its nature is community. this is and advantage but a disadvantage sometimes.[16:06:44] <Zenther> Fingli, he is gone[16:06:54] <Fingli> uh :)[16:07:13] *** sdouble25 has quit IRC[16:07:17] *** blackjolly has quit IRC[16:07:30] <manots> hello everyone[16:08:13] <Zenther> heyya[16:08:31] * Zenther is dealing with a failing drive which hosts his /var[16:08:36] * Zenther is sad[16:08:43] <manots> :/ that sucks[16:08:51] *** nimmuk has joined #manjaro[16:09:34] *** nimmuk has quit IRC[16:09:46] <Zenther> who here has /var on an ssd and has had it there for a long time?[16:10:05] <PMunch> I have everything on SSDs[16:10:27] <Zenther> I think I might just try to move it back to my ssd root partition[16:10:44] *** dfarg has joined #manjaro[16:10:56] <dfarg> #manjaro[16:11:22] <Zenther> and deal with the excessive read/writes on the ssd[16:12:14] *** dfarg has quit IRC[16:12:49] *** manjaro-jwm has joined #manjaro[16:13:33] *** manjaro-jwm has quit IRC[16:14:35] <Strit_Laptop> I've had my whole install on my SSD for 4 years.[16:16:59] *** sdouble25 has joined #manjaro[16:17:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sdouble25[16:17:33] <Zenther> what I really should do is a new clean install... its been a couple years[16:17:57] <Zenther> there's a lot of crap packages I have installed[16:18:37] <Zenther> hell, there are 80 packages from the aur on this box... I know I don't need most of them[16:19:59] <PMunch> Hmm, anyone know why Wayland is installed by default on Manjaro i3?[16:20:02] *** mtn has quit IRC[16:20:24] <fractal> does anyone else find moving icons around in the folder view plasma space incredibly difficult?[16:20:30] <fractal> it's like they don't want to move[16:20:32] <fractal> :([16:21:42] <fractal> maybe there is some trick to it that i don't know, but after a few times i finally get the icons in place[16:21:52] *** manjaro_flux has joined #manjaro[16:22:05] *** manjaro_flux_ has joined #manjaro[16:22:10] *** manjaro_flux has left #manjaro[16:23:08] <LucaB> PMunch: look waylands dependencies[16:23:15] *** mike-zal has joined #manjaro[16:23:38] *** sepsinn has quit IRC[16:23:39] <LucaB> or packages that require wayland[16:24:53] *** NolanSyKinsley has joined #manjaro[16:24:54] <PMunch> How would I do that?[16:25:27] <LucaB> well i do it with pamac[16:25:38] <PMunch> Required By : gst-plugins-bad gtk3 lib32-wayland mesa[16:28:19] <mike-zal> tried wayland today. mouse cursor wasn't working well, had freezed animations, not moving fluently and was invisible above windows... so far wayland is not usable on my computer :([16:29:06] *** manj-1509-Lxde1 has joined #manjaro[16:29:14] *** manj-1509-Lxde1 has quit IRC[16:29:18] *** greencrow has joined #manjaro[16:32:46] *** ClawDad has joined #manjaro[16:33:32] *** H-H-H has joined #manjaro[16:34:03] <ClawDad> Doing Calamares installer on UEFI, is it normal for it to take a long time for "Running unpackfs operation"?[16:34:16] <H-H-H> well i found the issue lol[16:34:26] <H-H-H> but dont know how to solve it[16:34:48] <ClawDad> I was able to install fine without UEFI last time I ran into this[16:34:59] *** jobenty has quit IRC[16:35:11] <H-H-H> its trying to load the kernel modules from /lib/modules/4.1.15-1-MANJARO[16:35:21] <H-H-H> however that doesnt exist[16:35:52] <Zenther> I still cannot get over how large dropbox app is... wth... it's not an office suite[16:36:55] *** ringo32 has quit IRC[16:36:58] <H-H-H> however /lib/modules/4.1.18-1-MANJARO does though so why is it looking in the wrong place after a CLEAN install[16:37:28] <H-H-H> and how can i solve it ? maybe change the dir in modprobe config ?[16:38:29] *** snele has quit IRC[16:39:08] <H-H-H> anyone got any ideas[16:40:58] <H-H-H> ahhhh ok lol[16:41:01] *** JohnML has quit IRC[16:41:47] <H-H-H> it seems as i didnt mount boot when i chrooted in and did an upgrade the right kernel wasnt added to boot so i need to mount boot and then install the kernel again and hopefully that will fix it[16:42:06] *** JohnML has joined #manjaro[16:43:22] *** manjaro_flux_ has quit IRC[16:43:43] <mike-zal> Zenther, right? it takes over 100MB in ram[16:43:45] *** greencrow has quit IRC[16:45:52] *** walle303 has quit IRC[16:45:52] *** walle303 has joined #manjaro[16:48:10] <H-H-H> so now i am installing another kernel wich should sort the issue out as /boot is now mounted and then will re install the kernel i was using lol[16:49:10] *** xangua has joined #manjaro[16:49:23] *** manj-1509-Lxde1 has joined #manjaro[16:51:53] *** H-H-H has quit IRC[16:53:25] *** ben_chile has joined #manjaro[16:53:39] <ben_chile> hello all[16:54:30] <Lowl3v3l> hey[16:56:12] *** ringo32 has joined #manjaro[16:56:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ringo32[16:59:32] <mike-zal> hi ben_chile I've been able to resolve my most pressing issues on gnome so it all works well :)[17:00:06] *** H-H-H has joined #manjaro[17:00:13] <ben_chile> hello mike-zal..really glad to hear good news[17:00:48] <H-H-H> yay fixed it lol am now running my correct drivers on the correct kernel lol[17:01:15] <mike-zal> installed nice plymouth. did you see this: https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=30723.0[17:01:17] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/xy3IE2] available manjaro plymouth themes[17:01:28] <H-H-H> now to get rid of pamac and install octopi and notifier[17:01:45] <mike-zal> now I can play with grub's look and login manager, but not in this weekend ;P[17:02:10] <mike-zal> I installed: plymouth-theme-manjaro-redefined-bsplash[17:02:20] *** manjaro-kde5 has joined #manjaro[17:03:05] *** manjaro-kde5 has quit IRC[17:03:08] <mike-zal> it's nice but not as nice as you would think from screen on the site. it needs to be worked out a bit, but still, that's something different. wish there were more selections of that[17:03:28] *** H-H-H has quit IRC[17:03:31] *** Fingli has quit IRC[17:05:28] *** ClawDad has left #manjaro[17:05:50] *** Manj-1509-Lxde2 has joined #manjaro[17:06:03] *** Manj-1509-Lxde2 has joined #manjaro[17:06:30] *** Manj-1509-Lxde2 has quit IRC[17:06:31] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[17:08:58] <NolanSyKinsley> What is the most light weight non tiling window manager other than openbox? (a game I play is causing it to segfault) and not MATE either, trying that now and it is just not sitting well with me.[17:09:47] *** H-H-H has joined #manjaro[17:10:30] <LucaB> fluxbox?[17:10:54] *** konradb has quit IRC[17:11:51] *** mike-zal has quit IRC[17:17:34] <H-H-H> ahhhhh thats better got stuff configured kinda how i like it now[17:19:38] *** ben_chile has quit IRC[17:21:12] *** NolanSyKinsley has quit IRC[17:22:42] *** manjaro-kde5_ has joined #manjaro[17:22:44] *** NolanSyKinsley has joined #manjaro[17:28:09] *** glsmaxx has joined #manjaro[17:28:36] *** badbodh has quit IRC[17:29:13] *** naringas has quit IRC[17:32:26] *** glsmaxx has quit IRC[17:33:15] *** JohnML has quit IRC[17:34:29] *** JohnML has joined #manjaro[17:36:59] *** HamRadio has quit IRC[17:39:14] <H-H-H> 159 ppl an not one of them is talking lol wellexcept me haha[17:41:03] *** Kalinos has joined #manjaro[17:41:47] <Kalinos> hi all[17:42:10] <LucaB> H-H-H: if there is nothing to talk about, no reason to talk[17:43:09] <H-H-H> theres always something to talk about lol[17:43:11] *** badbodh has joined #manjaro[17:44:01] *** Joshua_Dunamis has quit IRC[17:44:46] *** mike-zal has joined #manjaro[17:46:21] *** Na3iL has joined #manjaro[17:48:11] <Kalinos> anyone know how to install i2p?[17:48:45] *** Tjong has quit IRC[17:49:15] *** Tjong has joined #manjaro[17:49:24] *** PerlinNoise has quit IRC[17:51:19] <Zenther> Kalinos, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/I2P[17:51:20] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/c2nf6d] I2P - ArchWiki[17:54:10] *** [[[archtard]]] has joined #manjaro[17:55:49] *** JohnML has quit IRC[17:56:51] *** JohnML has joined #manjaro[17:57:51] *** NolanSyKinsley has quit IRC[17:58:36] <Zenther> [[[archtard]]], what distro you using these days?[17:59:02] <Zenther> [[[archtard]]], missed the usual: "Yeah" on your join... you are slipping[17:59:33] *** HamRadio has joined #manjaro[18:00:41] *** NolanSyKinsley has joined #manjaro[18:02:53] *** darksim has quit IRC[18:03:21] *** NolanSyKinsley has quit IRC[18:03:32] *** manjaro-web|6006 has joined #manjaro[18:04:06] <PMunch> Hmm, why does xdg-open open itself when it doesn't know what to do with a file?[18:05:50] *** NolanSyKinsley has joined #manjaro[18:10:59] *** Kalinos has quit IRC[18:13:37] *** ggr has joined #manjaro[18:14:40] *** Kalinos has joined #manjaro[18:14:52] <Kalinos> Zenther: did you ask me[18:15:59] *** manjaro-kde5_ has quit IRC[18:16:38] <Kalinos> I read the ling about I2p but there are differnt versions in aur, which one should be installed[18:18:29] *** astrofog has joined #manjaro[18:19:11] <Zenther> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/i2p/[18:19:12] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/sfFovA] AUR (en) - i2p[18:19:48] <Kalinos> Zenther: i read it, but i get diffent version from yaourt[18:20:06] <Zenther> yaourt -S i2p[18:20:21] *** manots has quit IRC[18:20:32] <Zenther> don't forget to get the key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0EC51FCDA94FB53E[18:21:39] *** manjaro-kde5_ has joined #manjaro[18:22:23] <Kalinos> Zenther: i never isnatlled i2p on manjaro, i dont know how it works[18:23:33] <Kalinos> http://pastebin.com/EUgFXFM8[18:23:34] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/qSpB3U] 1 extra/dri2proto 2.8-2 X11 DRI protocol 2 aur/dri2proto-git 2.8.3.gddc128 - Pastebin.com[18:23:46] <Kalinos> look at the link zenther[18:23:56] *** kayak has quit IRC[18:26:45] *** introwertyk has quit IRC[18:28:33] *** H-H-H has quit IRC[18:36:29] *** CommunistWitchDr has joined #manjaro[18:36:35] *** snele has joined #manjaro[18:39:07] *** nostrora has joined #manjaro[18:39:43] <nostrora> Hello i try to boot manjaro but boot is blocking at triggering uevent. Can you help me ?[18:40:04] *** [[[archtard]]] has quit IRC[18:45:34] *** manjaro-kde5 has joined #manjaro[18:45:58] <manjaro-kde5> Witam[18:48:59] *** manjaro-kde5_ has quit IRC[18:50:37] *** manjaro-kde5 has quit IRC[18:51:09] *** manjaro-kde5 has joined #manjaro[18:51:29] *** Kalinos has quit IRC[18:54:09] *** Kalinos has joined #manjaro[18:54:29] *** manjaro-kde5 has quit IRC[18:54:39] *** SpiritOfTux has joined #manjaro[18:55:32] *** zz_MyPictures is now known as MyPictures[18:59:19] *** Bawls has quit IRC[19:01:38] *** Diomedes has joined #manjaro[19:03:04] *** baizon has joined #manjaro[19:05:16] *** Fooguo has quit IRC[19:07:29] *** NolanSyKinsley has quit IRC[19:07:34] *** NoSyK has joined #manjaro[19:07:45] *** Fooguo has joined #manjaro[19:08:55] *** smeefonater has joined #manjaro[19:10:10] *** Na3iL has quit IRC[19:11:28] *** astrofog has quit IRC[19:11:29] *** sdouble25 has quit IRC[19:11:29] *** rjonasz has quit IRC[19:11:35] *** rjonasz has joined #manjaro[19:12:02] *** PMunch has quit IRC[19:12:02] *** Strit_Laptop has quit IRC[19:12:03] *** sashage has quit IRC[19:12:03] *** deathonater has quit IRC[19:12:31] *** Strit_Laptop has joined #manjaro[19:12:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[19:12:35] *** manjaro-kde5__ has quit IRC[19:12:42] *** manjaro-kde5__ has joined #manjaro[19:13:40] *** sdouble25 has joined #manjaro[19:13:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sdouble25[19:13:47] *** manj-1509-Lxde1 has joined #manjaro[19:13:50] *** manj-1509-Lxde2 has joined #manjaro[19:13:56] *** manj-1509-Lxde2 has quit IRC[19:14:19] *** manj-1509-Lxde1 has quit IRC[19:16:24] *** nostrora has quit IRC[19:16:44] *** nostrora has joined #manjaro[19:20:11] <Strit_Laptop> Hey guys. Do you remember the guy who came in complaining about being locke dout of his luks drive? There was just an update to cryptsetup. :P[19:22:36] <ringo32> need kenrel 4.5[19:22:39] *** Na3iL has joined #manjaro[19:22:45] <ringo32> oh[19:22:47] <ringo32> :)[19:22:56] <ringo32> << fail :)[19:23:08] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah. It just hit stable like an hour ago. :)[19:23:56] *** sashage has joined #manjaro[19:23:59] *** PMunch has joined #manjaro[19:24:27] <Strit_Laptop> He was so pissed, and an update was just around the corner[19:28:08] *** astrofog has joined #manjaro[19:29:04] *** badbodh has quit IRC[19:30:19] *** kisol has joined #manjaro[19:36:07] *** Monro has quit IRC[19:36:21] *** Kalinos has quit IRC[19:38:57] *** Monro has joined #manjaro[19:41:08] *** Rorro has quit IRC[19:42:08] *** komaru_912 has joined #manjaro[19:42:14] <komaru_912> hello[19:42:46] <komaru_912> i cant join freenode? til yesterday i could.[19:43:13] <Strit_Laptop> you are on freenode now.[19:43:14] *** `Eddie has joined #manjaro[19:45:43] <komaru_912> #freenode cannot send to channel[19:46:22] *** mtn has joined #manjaro[19:46:31] <Strit_Laptop> maybe you don't have voice in there.[19:46:52] *** H-H-H has joined #manjaro[19:47:14] <komaru_912> i am unregistered[19:47:35] <Strit_Laptop> I'm registered, and I still don't have voice there.[19:48:04] *** Groggle has joined #manjaro[19:48:10] <komaru_912> till last week i could talk there freely like here[19:48:27] <H-H-H> Finally i can run unity32 lol ty to all that helped me lol i only had to reinstall my os as 64 bit and then increase the size of /tmp aswell as add a 2gb swapfile to make it build the bloody thing but its now running lol[19:48:30] <Strit_Laptop> Maybe you should request voice in #freenode then.[19:48:39] <H-H-H> unity3d*[19:48:52] *** badbodh has joined #manjaro[19:48:59] <komaru_912> that's what i cant say them anything[19:49:02] <Strit_Laptop> komaru_912, I don't know how that channel is moderated so.[19:49:16] <Strit_Laptop> komaru_912, you can PM an op I guess.[19:49:59] *** ggr has quit IRC[19:50:20] *** guest316 has joined #manjaro[19:51:49] *** Manj-1509-Lxde2 has joined #manjaro[19:51:49] *** Manj-1509-Lxde has joined #manjaro[19:52:01] *** Manj-1509-Lxde3 has joined #manjaro[19:52:39] *** Manj-1509-Lxde2 has quit IRC[19:52:52] *** oops has quit IRC[19:53:04] *** Manj-1509-Lxde has quit IRC[19:54:00] <Strit_Laptop> komaru_912, now we got voiced. :P[19:54:14] *** manjaro-web|3091 has joined #manjaro[19:54:38] <Groggle> Since the last update I'm not able to see window borders with compton on XFCE. I've disabled the default window compositing and use 'compton --vsync opengl'.[19:55:18] <Groggle> I'm not sure how to start debugging the issue. I hide the window contents when resizing but I'm not able to see the "outline" now.[19:55:50] <komaru_912> magic how did you do it[19:56:06] *** manjaro-web|3091 has quit IRC[19:56:54] *** Oldiesmann has joined #manjaro[19:57:47] <Strit_Laptop> komaru_912, I didn't do anything. :)[19:59:27] *** jsamyth has joined #manjaro[20:00:31] <komaru_912> sometimes cool smileys work sometimes they dont, and we have to use :) :> and alll that technical draining stuff[20:00:53] <Strit_Laptop> smileys depend on the client you use.[20:02:14] *** manjaro-web|4404 has joined #manjaro[20:02:33] *** tripped has joined #manjaro[20:04:33] *** Na3iL has quit IRC[20:05:54] *** freex has quit IRC[20:09:14] *** manjaro-kde5_ has joined #manjaro[20:09:39] *** JohnML has quit IRC[20:10:09] <manjaro-web|4404> Hi i am from germany and there is a problem with the way the german letter ü is displayed by manjaro[20:10:14] *** kowalskiml has joined #manjaro[20:10:36] *** JohnML has joined #manjaro[20:11:04] <sdouble25> manjaro-web|4404: you can join #manjaro-de and ask in german[20:11:19] <manjaro-web|4404> thank you[20:11:34] <mike-zal> manjaro-web|4404, that's weird, german language usually is correctly shown, never heard about such problems[20:17:33] *** CountryfiedLinux has joined #manjaro[20:19:19] <CountryfiedLinux> this is funny http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uk5nyK_iBR8/UmhVg0fI50I/AAAAAAAACms/X0s6kWe_fd8/s640/doginvolvedinscandal.JPG[20:19:19] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/WXlgxV] (Page title not found or empty. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.)[20:21:35] <komaru_912> :D[20:21:40] <komaru_912> :-D[20:21:57] <komaru_912> :( :-([20:22:17] <komaru_912> ;)[20:22:40] <komaru_912> :p[20:22:44] *** kisol has quit IRC[20:23:51] *** mtn has quit IRC[20:24:33] *** manjaro-web|4404 has quit IRC[20:24:37] *** jsamyth is now known as jsamythAFK[20:26:13] *** manjaro-web|4404 has joined #manjaro[20:26:42] *** sdouble25 has quit IRC[20:28:41] *** sdouble25 has joined #manjaro[20:28:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sdouble25[20:28:58] <Zenther> Heh, Linux Mint got hacked and a version with backdoor was put on for download[20:29:33] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah, saw that was well.[20:30:42] <Zenther> what to do today? Go shoot the AR-15, till the garden, take a nap until the end of the race then watch it?[20:31:07] <ringo32> :)[20:31:50] <Zenther> I always wondered why is it that the same place you download the iso is the place where the md5checksum is located to verify it as legit[20:32:15] <Zenther> If I can hack someplace to change the download, I can change the checksum while I am at it[20:32:51] <Zenther> checksums should be handled by a third party[20:34:22] <komaru_912> Zenther: that's why we have signing and web of trust. :) :D[20:35:11] <Zenther> I do find it interesting that that news is a trending topic on facebook[20:35:22] *** DaMastah has joined #manjaro[20:35:30] <Zenther> maybe linux is a lot more widespread than we think[20:36:00] <komaru_912> Zenther: do you know RSA or DHH key exchange?[20:36:04] *** DaMastah has left #manjaro[20:36:06] <Strit_Laptop> Well. Linux Mint is very widespread.[20:37:34] <mike-zal> and facebook shows more what you like and react to so it's more likely to present linux news[20:37:45] *** ringo32 has quit IRC[20:37:54] <Zenther> wide spread within the linux community, but not widespread in the computer os community[20:38:16] <Zenther> mike-zal, might be that[20:38:47] *** ringo32 has joined #manjaro[20:38:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ringo32[20:39:40] <komaru_912> =-O[20:39:44] <komaru_912> =:O[20:39:46] <mike-zal> I don't use fb to any things linux related so I never saw any linux related post there. but I do see them lot on YT because I check out news and reviews about linux there[20:40:43] <Zenther> mike-zal, I am in a few linux facebook groups[20:40:51] <komaru_912> yt=youtube. mike-zal keep your genius up. =-O[20:41:12] <komaru_912> :*[20:41:16] <komaru_912> :-*[20:41:17] * Zenther sicks peer on ringo32[20:41:34] <mike-zal> heh? what was that suppose to mean? ;P[20:41:54] <komaru_912> can you see my smileys or do you see text only??[20:42:17] <komaru_912> 8) 8-)[20:42:25] <Strit_Laptop> Text only.[20:43:04] <komaru_912> ohh god, feel sorry for you mike and others, because i do see smileys.[20:43:26] <Strit_Laptop> komaru_912, what client do you use?[20:43:27] <komaru_912> :_* :-*[20:43:30] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[20:43:43] <Zenther> he uses something produced by AOL[20:44:04] <komaru_912> pigdin, u, zenther u[20:44:12] <Zenther> hexchat[20:44:32] <Strit_Laptop> hexchat here also. Hexchat does not support smileys.[20:44:40] <mike-zal> komaru_912, text only[20:44:41] <Zenther> I only use pidgin for facebook/google messaging[20:44:48] <komaru_912> try apt-get install pidgin now :-*[20:45:07] <Strit_Laptop> lol. apt-get?[20:45:20] <komaru_912> and see the fun yourself,you wil laugh if you saw. sorry pacman[20:45:21] <mike-zal> hexchat too, on kde I was using konversation app thou[20:45:39] <Strit_Laptop> I have pidgin. I use it for google hangouts and facebook chat.[20:46:03] <komaru_912> then try it now, it's easy.[20:46:07] <mike-zal> I use messanger for facebook chat. looks exactly as on phone.[20:46:38] <Strit_Laptop> komaru_912, why should I, when hexchat works fine. I have no need for fancy smileys in my chat.[20:46:48] <komaru_912> mike do u know what =-O means[20:47:07] *** darksim has joined #manjaro[20:47:23] <mike-zal> no, looks like key to me[20:47:29] *** linux_dream has joined #manjaro[20:48:00] <komaru_912> :-! :! Zenther you shoot? animals.[20:49:02] <mike-zal> komaru_912, looks like you were using braile here ;)[20:49:15] <komaru_912> :-$[20:49:23] *** [[[archtard]]] has joined #manjaro[20:49:44] <komaru_912> :-/ :/[20:50:26] <komaru_912> :-/ :-/ i will :-* you Zenther[20:51:12] <komaru_912> are you :-[ :-[[20:51:33] *** manjaro-kde5_ has quit IRC[20:52:10] <mike-zal> and that is why we prefer emoticonless xechat...[20:52:36] <mike-zal> you might as well have been speaking chineese[20:53:40] <komaru_912> ya 8-) like a idiot, and you say idk, afaik, yt for youtube, lmao for laughing my ass of,awk for away and keyboard and other genius acts, to me it is you who speaks chinese[20:55:03] <komaru_912> now dont go like >:O please on me[20:55:24] <[[[archtard]]]> pretty please[20:55:31] <[[[archtard]]]> :D[20:55:57] <komaru_912> :'*[20:56:12] <komaru_912> :'( :')[20:56:58] <komaru_912> o:) o:-)[20:57:29] * Strit_Laptop is not ignoring all the emoticons.[20:57:38] <komaru_912> i am o:-) and you are like :-/ on me[20:57:40] <Strit_Laptop> s/not/now[20:58:45] <komaru_912> s is a code word again but i have only 8-) to say[21:00:29] <komaru_912> :-))[21:00:48] <komaru_912> :')[21:01:39] *** Kuvis has quit IRC[21:04:45] <komaru_912> ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)[21:05:42] *** manjaro-kde5- has joined #manjaro[21:07:25] *** Rorro has joined #manjaro[21:07:44] <komaru_912> hello manjaro-kde5 how are you?[21:09:00] *** Joshua^Dunamis has joined #manjaro[21:11:12] <komaru_912> mike when was the last time you :-* someone[21:13:12] <ringo32> :p[21:14:29] *** Oldiesmann has quit IRC[21:14:30] *** phil_m has joined #manjaro[21:14:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phil_m[21:14:41] <Strit_Laptop> hey phil_m . :P[21:15:18] <phil_m> wtf, some simply can't handle their boxes ...[21:15:30] <Strit_Laptop> what do you mean?[21:15:36] <phil_m> stupied users with encrypting their harddrives and not knowing how to unecrypt them.[21:15:46] <Strit_Laptop> Oh yeah. :)[21:15:47] <phil_m> the f#cking lusk issue[21:15:53] <phil_m> *luks[21:15:57] <Strit_Laptop> We had a guy in here with that ealier today.[21:15:59] <phil_m> even on Archlinux they shout[21:16:13] <phil_m> upstream is so easy on it.[21:16:19] <phil_m> known since the patch came out ;9[21:16:35] <phil_m> this was december 29th last year[21:16:53] <phil_m> fixed within cryptsetup since two month[21:16:59] <Strit_Laptop> lol. I just had a cryptsetup update today.[21:17:08] <phil_m> fixed by us within 2 hours[21:17:13] <Strit_Laptop> yeah. :)[21:17:32] <phil_m> I simply had no time earlier to find which kernels got all affected[21:17:45] <phil_m> some already posted about it with 3.19.8.14 release[21:18:10] <phil_m> but can you keep all the reports on track?[21:18:15] <phil_m> I'm not doing Manjaro on full time[21:18:33] <phil_m> as I don't use encrypted HDDs, I gave a $h1t, for now[21:18:51] <phil_m> anyway, it is fixed and everybody who faced it has to fix it on their own.[21:18:56] <Strit_Laptop> yeah. I have never encrypted my drive either, although I have considered it from time to time.[21:19:06] <phil_m> some really stop on unlocking but not mounting it.[21:19:13] <phil_m> so what should I say to that?[21:19:21] <phil_m> go Nvidia yourself or what?[21:19:35] *** ringo32 has quit IRC[21:19:36] *** maxf73 has joined #manjaro[21:19:42] *** nostrora_ has joined #manjaro[21:19:53] <nostrora_> Hello, i can't boot livecd. boot stuck at trugering uevent. can you help me ?[21:20:55] * [[[archtard]]] likes bacon[21:22:26] <phil_m> Strit_Laptop: if you want to laugh, just read this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48230, https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48253[21:22:26] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/UuExjp] (link was unresponsive: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48230,)[21:22:40] <phil_m> Strit_Laptop: if you want to laugh, just read this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48230 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48253[21:22:42] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/wyI4ri] FS#48230 : [linux-lts/linux] 4.1.18 luks-root broken[21:22:47] *** JohnML has quit IRC[21:23:01] <phil_m> <nostrora_>: how can I help you?[21:23:21] <komaru_912> Strit can i meet a woman on IRC like this man's chat http://i.imgur.com/DHRvAZj.png[21:23:21] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/VOM7aZ] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[21:23:28] *** systemedic has joined #manjaro[21:24:14] <[[[archtard]]]> at #defocus komaru_912 :S[21:24:18] <phil_m> ?!? I don't thinks lot of gurls are in IRC. It is to retro.[21:25:01] <[[[archtard]]]> nowhere to post selfies either[21:25:25] <phil_m> who need selfies when there is asci ;)[21:26:31] *** Strit_Laptop has left #manjaro[21:27:25] *** Ziggurat has joined #manjaro[21:28:44] <Ziggurat> The Manjaro installer does not see my NVMe drive[21:29:10] <phil_m> which installer? Only the graphical installer Thus supports NVMe drives.[21:29:37] <phil_m> Calamares not yet ...[21:29:51] <Ziggurat> There are multiple installers?[21:29:59] <phil_m> yes, we have three[21:30:03] <phil_m> CLI, Thus and Calamares[21:30:41] <phil_m> open a terminal and try sudo thus and you should be able to install.[21:30:51] <Ziggurat> I am in an installer named Capella I think[21:30:58] <phil_m> that is Calamares.[21:31:05] <phil_m> it doesn't support your drives[21:31:12] <phil_m> use Thus 0.9.2[21:31:41] *** alexandros_c has joined #manjaro[21:31:42] <Ziggurat> thanks![21:32:11] <phil_m> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Graphical_Installation_Guide_for_Beginners_0.8.8[21:32:12] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/6JbxbB] Graphical Installation Guide for Beginners 0.8.8 - Manjaro Linux[21:32:18] *** ringo32 has joined #manjaro[21:32:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ringo32[21:32:22] *** AJSlye has joined #manjaro[21:32:24] <jsamyth> The problem is that Thus is seriously broken in a number of other instances.[21:32:58] *** `Eddie has quit IRC[21:32:58] <phil_m> well, it is work in progress. Focus is on Calamares.[21:33:13] <phil_m> I only fix issues which got reported in Thus from now on.[21:33:45] <phil_m> Calamares 2.0-rc1 can now been tested with the current 16.06-dev builds[21:34:05] <komaru_912> ringo32 hi, do u want to sexchaat with me[21:34:33] <Ziggurat> komaru_912: I think you should find ringo64 instead.[21:34:47] <AJSlye> philip, were you able to fix fredhound's luks issue?[21:35:06] <AJSlye> oops fredhoud.[21:35:30] *** manjaro-kde5_ has joined #manjaro[21:35:55] * [[[archtard]]] is away cybering with komaru_912[21:36:12] <jsamyth> AJSlye: Can you summarize what that issue was? Apparentlntly it was discussed before i joined channel...[21:36:15] <phil_m> http://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarotest/files/16.06-dev/[21:36:15] <phil_m> is it always like this at this hour?[21:36:15] <phil_m> komaru_912: you know that we record this channel?[21:36:16] <phil_m> well, AJSlye, do you see him in this channel?[21:36:17] <phil_m> when this guy dosn't know how to mount his drives I don't know if I'm able to do it ;)[21:36:17] <phil_m> he does step one and thinks he is done. maybe I write him a one-liner :P[21:36:18] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/TMGE0B] Manjaro Testbuilds - Browse /16.06-dev at SourceForge.net[21:36:18] <phil_m> I hound him always[21:36:42] <phil_m> I've to correct myself always before I post some in the forum. always fredhound, ups ... fredhoud ...[21:36:49] *** manjaro-web|7919 has joined #manjaro[21:37:01] <phil_m> fredhoud?[21:37:09] *** linux_dream has quit IRC[21:37:10] <phil_m> or who is manjaro-web?[21:37:53] <phil_m> anyway, AJSlye, how does Netrunner go so far?[21:38:05] <phil_m> any new RC out with Calamares 2.0-rc1?[21:38:20] *** manjaro-web|4404 has quit IRC[21:38:25] <AJSlye> Yes, rsyncing rc3 now.[21:38:38] *** Ziggurat_ has joined #manjaro[21:38:48] <AJSlye> I did an RC2 on friday but then you updated stable so I had to build again today. ;)[21:38:48] <phil_m> I hope you used the fixed cryptsetup for it :P[21:39:01] <phil_m> what a bugger.[21:39:10] <phil_m> so I should not update so frequently ;)[21:39:18] <AJSlye> your fine[21:39:47] <tefter> systemd-229-2 won't hit stable as it has critical bug?[21:39:54] <AJSlye> was bad timming on my part[21:40:08] *** nuno_nunes has joined #manjaro[21:40:15] <phil_m> tefter: what do you mean?[21:40:29] <AJSlye> I meant timing LOL[21:40:39] <tefter> it has bogus assertion in that stops booting[21:40:51] <phil_m> https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=31356.0;attach=13748[21:40:51] <tefter> corrected in 229-3[21:40:51] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/7u1tHU] Login[21:40:58] <phil_m> this is the current package list[21:41:08] *** Ziggurat has quit IRC[21:41:41] <AJSlye> fixed cryptsetup?[21:41:42] *** Fingli has joined #manjaro[21:41:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fingli[21:41:58] *** manjaro-web|7919 has quit IRC[21:42:53] <tefter> aaah systemd madi it in stable ;([21:42:53] <AJSlye> I use the tarball from teo for Calamares 2.0.[21:43:49] <phil_m> AJSlye: what kernel do you use? 4.4?[21:43:49] <phil_m> if so no issue[21:43:50] <phil_m> should I push the -3 to all branches?[21:44:21] <tefter> yep 229-3[21:45:24] <phil_m> seems systemd lib32 didn't made it yet. I'll update that also[21:47:22] *** jasonwert has quit IRC[21:48:17] *** Vlado9A3CY has quit IRC[21:48:22] <phil_m> should be online in some minutes at netzspielplatz server in germany[21:48:54] *** jasonwert has joined #manjaro[21:50:24] *** Akeno has joined #manjaro[21:50:24] *** Akeno has joined #manjaro[21:50:44] <tefter> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48197[21:50:46] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/LuD1Au] FS#48197 : [systemd] Assertion '*v' failed on boot[21:50:46] *** nuno_nunes has quit IRC[21:50:54] <AJSlye> Yes, I did use the 4.4 kernel series for this next release.[21:51:13] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #manjaro[21:52:11] <AJSlye> rsync is at 43% for RC3, I'll let you know when it's finished.[21:52:20] *** manjaro-kde5_ has quit IRC[21:52:37] *** phil_m has quit IRC[21:53:19] <jsamyth> Is there a wiki on switching Kernels? Isn't the ease of that one of Manjaro's key features?[21:53:23] <anonkun> neww update :D[21:53:28] *** phil_m has joined #manjaro[21:53:50] <anonkun> jsamyth: theres a app that show you all kernels[21:53:52] *** phil_m is now known as Guest7037[21:53:53] *** Akeno has quit IRC[21:53:56] *** Kalinos has joined #manjaro[21:54:00] <anonkun> with KDE[21:54:02] <anonkun> at least[21:54:13] <anonkun> I remember something similar on Manjaro XFCE as well[21:54:49] <AJSlye> jsamyth: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Manjaro_Kernels[21:54:50] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/TrdUNl] Manjaro Kernels - Manjaro Linux[21:55:20] *** Guest7037 is now known as phil_m-tmp[21:56:27] *** komaru_912 has quit IRC[21:56:38] <jsamyth> Checking that out, thanks. I'm using 4.1.something. Is is wise to switch to 4.4 at this time?[21:56:44] *** nostrora_ has quit IRC[21:56:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phil_m-tmp[21:56:57] *** phil_m-tmp is now known as phil_m[21:56:57] *** badbodh has quit IRC[21:57:25] *** Na3iL has joined #manjaro[21:57:36] <AJSlye> 4.1 is the lts kernel, unless you have some hardware that would benifit from a newer kernel I wouldn't worry about it.[21:58:08] <phil_m> 4.4 is also an lts kernel[21:59:11] *** test-webchat has joined #manjaro[21:59:16] *** manjaro-kde5_ has joined #manjaro[21:59:34] *** test-webchat has quit IRC[22:00:17] <phil_m> IRC is so retro ... lets see if he gets it ...[22:00:33] *** sashage has quit IRC[22:00:34] *** Ziggurat_ has quit IRC[22:00:36] <phil_m> I love our users ...[22:01:02] *** fredhoud has joined #manjaro[22:01:04] *** manjaro-kde5-- has joined #manjaro[22:01:10] <fredhoud> ping phil_m[22:01:19] *** Groggle has quit IRC[22:01:31] <phil_m> you're the man.[22:01:36] *** rjonasz has quit IRC[22:01:36] <phil_m> what went wrong dude.[22:01:42] <phil_m> kindergardens?[22:01:45] *** manjaro-kde5_ is now known as rjonasz[22:01:55] <phil_m> so where do you stuck with your box?[22:01:57] <jsamyth> Ok, think I'll do the kernel update later. Going down for reboot after glibc update.[22:02:02] <fredhoud> Sorry, I'm having the worst day of my life![22:02:13] <phil_m> you got fired or what?[22:02:20] *** rjonasz is now known as Guest27965[22:02:45] <phil_m> let me ping you in an extra box so we can talk without others in the chat.[22:02:55] <phil_m> simply post some back if you got the message[22:03:11] *** jsamyth has quit IRC[22:03:12] <fredhoud> got the message[22:03:31] <phil_m> then answer in that tab[22:04:40] <fredhoud> I know kernel 42 works, but when I download it through live cd, it won't download to hard drive. So I can't download it.[22:05:30] <fredhoud> I can open a terminal through live cd, but what's next?[22:05:48] *** kut_ has joined #manjaro[22:05:52] *** niffyjiffy has joined #manjaro[22:06:10] <AJSlye> yes, I know 4.4 is an lts kernel, I was just trying to convey the if it isn't broke idiom[22:07:09] <AJSlye> fredhoud to get that kernel installed to the system on the HD you would need to use chroot[22:07:27] *** bradley has joined #manjaro[22:07:35] <mike-zal> I installed midnight commander. how to access it?[22:07:44] *** Na3iL has quit IRC[22:07:55] <mike-zal> ok, nvm, from terminal ;p[22:07:56] *** kayak has joined #manjaro[22:07:58] <fredhoud> AJslye, how do I get into chroot?[22:08:07] *** Na3iL has joined #manjaro[22:08:07] * [[[archtard]]] likes cheese[22:08:33] *** Akeno has joined #manjaro[22:08:34] *** Akeno has joined #manjaro[22:08:44] <mike-zal> fredhoud, google on arch wiki, there is lot info about chrooting. there is also arch chrooting which is a bit better then standard one ;)[22:08:57] *** Akeno_ has joined #manjaro[22:09:13] <phil_m> fredhoud: did you mount the partition yet?[22:09:13] <AJSlye> fredhoud: Manjaro has a tool for that on the live ISO[22:09:19] *** Akeno is now known as Akeno_[22:09:32] *** [[[archtard]]] has quit IRC[22:09:58] <phil_m> tefter: https://lists.manjaro.org/pipermail/manjaro-packages/Week-of-Mon-20160215/006081.html[22:09:58] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/PGYDLo] [manjaro-packages] [BoxIt] Memo[22:10:00] <fredhoud> AJSlye, is that different than the iso that I have on a stick?[22:10:18] <tefter> bravo phil_m !!![22:10:55] *** Akeno has joined #manjaro[22:10:55] *** Akeno has joined #manjaro[22:11:00] <AJSlye> what ISO is on your stick?[22:11:37] <mike-zal> can I access easily mounted deviced in midnight commander other then through mnt?[22:11:44] *** kut_ has quit IRC[22:12:04] <fredhoud> AJ Slye, I have Manjaro KDE 15.12 x64 on a stick, and that's how I'd installed Manjaro KDE.[22:12:21] <phil_m> tefter: in 4 minutes netzspielplatz will sync them to all branches[22:12:47] <mike-zal> sorry, I meant through run/media[22:12:47] <phil_m> fredhoud: ok[22:12:50] <AJSlye> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Restore_the_GRUB_Bootloader#Chroot_into_your_existing_Manjaro_Installation[22:12:51] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/fPM0rm] Restore the GRUB Bootloader - Manjaro Linux[22:13:13] <phil_m> so fredhoud: first you have to mount your encrypted partition and unlock it[22:13:18] <phil_m> did that happend yet?[22:15:08] *** Fingli has quit IRC[22:15:13] <phil_m> great. Upstream fucked the lower kernels up: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-crypto at vger dot kernel.org/msg17926.html[22:15:14] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/XvJRyF] [PATCH] Re: Broken userspace crypto in linux-4.1.18[22:16:33] <AJSlye> NOT good.[22:16:33] *** nostrora has quit IRC[22:16:53] *** tulliana has quit IRC[22:19:10] *** Akeno_ is now known as Rias[22:19:16] *** Akeno is now known as Akeno_[22:19:23] *** Rias is now known as Akeno[22:20:09] *** maxf73 has quit IRC[22:22:31] *** localhost145 has joined #manjaro[22:22:40] *** sdouble25 has quit IRC[22:23:20] <AJSlye> I just found a bug in packagekit-qt5[22:24:05] <AJSlye> if you try to logout of plasma at the same time packagekit is using the internet it will crash plasma with a sig 11[22:24:36] *** MyPictures is now known as zz_MyPictures[22:28:28] *** baizon has quit IRC[22:29:10] <tefter> plasma crashes here and there ;)[22:29:21] <tefter> 5.5 is suprisingly stable[22:29:58] *** CountryfiedLinux has quit IRC[22:30:06] <AJSlye> Yes it is.[22:30:30] <AJSlye> tefter: Manjaro doesn't use packagekit so this wouldn't effect it.[22:31:10] <tefter> lost 2 hours in trying to run Wasteland 2 directors cut[22:31:32] <tefter> eventually found out that games needs more than 1024 file descriptors ;)[22:31:43] <tefter> just aborts without any hint[22:31:56] *** neil1969 has joined #manjaro[22:32:05] <AJSlye> tefter: Netrunner rolling ships with Discover, if you try loging back out before dicover (packagekit) loads a sig 11 crash occures.[22:32:21] *** neil1969 has quit IRC[22:32:35] *** sdouble25 has joined #manjaro[22:32:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sdouble25[22:32:54] *** localhost145 has quit IRC[22:33:29] <phil_m> fredhoud, what is your status on the problem?[22:33:38] <dodgejcr_> hey phil_m[22:34:26] *** manots has joined #manjaro[22:34:44] <fredhoud> pilm, my head is about to explode. I'm not having any luck. How can they do this to a stable branch?[22:34:45] <phil_m> Milan just pushed a patch for fixing the issue with cryptsetup 1.7.0 on the kernel side: http://www.spinics.net/lists/stable/msg120446.html[22:34:46] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/o56RKK] [PATCH] Re: Broken userspace crypto in linux-4.1.18 — Linux Stable Kernel[22:34:58] <manots> hey phil_m[22:35:00] <phil_m> however cryptsetup 1.7.1 should come out soon[22:35:07] *** Manj-811-Xfce has joined #manjaro[22:35:14] <phil_m> what?[22:35:16] <phil_m> it happens.[22:35:31] *** Bullterrier has quit IRC[22:35:43] <phil_m> nobody cared about the encryption thing as most of our users in testing are using higher kernels like 4.3 and up[22:35:45] *** Manj-811-Xfce has quit IRC[22:36:03] <phil_m> also I slightly new about it since some days but had no time to find a solution.[22:36:13] <phil_m> anyway it happend and you had bad luck[22:36:26] <phil_m> so now we can fix it. so what is your status. on which step you're stuck?[22:37:37] <phil_m> fredhoud: so you're now logged on with your live session.[22:37:54] <phil_m> did you yet mounted your encrypted partition? is it /dev/sda2?[22:37:56] <fredhoud> I'll do anything at this point. Tell me what to type in the terminal that I can get into through live CD.[22:38:08] <manots> we've had a ton of complaints about lucks at this point[22:38:18] <phil_m> what is your encrypted partition you want to mount and unlock?[22:38:37] <manots> the main one saying that novice users shouldnt have to deal with this issue (not my opinion)[22:38:39] <phil_m> manots: what can I do if it slipped thru.[22:38:51] <manots> its understandable[22:38:56] <manots> at least thats what i belive[22:38:59] <phil_m> it is known since 29.12 in upstream[22:39:08] <fredhoud> It's suppose to be on dev/sda2 as I've encrypted all 6 of my computers through the program during the installation.[22:39:16] <phil_m> some user-space libs acted in January[22:39:27] <phil_m> ok.[22:39:44] <phil_m> so is /dev/sda2 mounted or do you need a step by step guide?[22:39:46] <manots> also is github better than wordpress when it comes to what happend to the linux mint team?[22:39:59] *** nicklas_ has joined #manjaro[22:40:14] *** systemedic has quit IRC[22:40:26] <phil_m> manots: we had wordpress and we got alos hacked. I had some stupied pics even in our wiki[22:40:35] *** Akeno_ has quit IRC[22:40:35] <phil_m> that is why we are now on github[22:40:48] <manots> ok[22:40:50] *** jsamyth has joined #manjaro[22:40:54] <manots> at least its safer that way[22:40:56] <phil_m> Roland is currently finishing his own framework. hopefully we will have our new homepage soon online.[22:41:02] *** nicklas_ has quit IRC[22:41:18] *** nicklas_ has joined #manjaro[22:41:19] *** Akeno_ has joined #manjaro[22:41:20] *** Akeno_ has joined #manjaro[22:41:22] <phil_m> fredhoud: should we go step by step?[22:41:43] <fredhoud> yes please, I greatly appreciate that.[22:41:45] *** manjaro-kde5- has quit IRC[22:41:52] <phil_m> open a terminal[22:42:12] *** Akeno has quit IRC[22:42:36] *** Akeno has joined #manjaro[22:42:37] *** Akeno has joined #manjaro[22:42:45] <fredhoud> ok I a have a terminal open through live cd.[22:42:50] <phil_m> fredhoud: type: su[22:42:56] <phil_m> enter your root password which is manjaro[22:43:04] <phil_m> do you see the # sign?[22:43:08] *** alfa3 has joined #manjaro[22:43:17] *** nuno_nunes has joined #manjaro[22:43:36] <fredhoud> yes is see the #sign.[22:43:45] <phil_m> type: cryptsetup open --type luks /dev/sda2 root[22:43:51] <phil_m> enter the passphrase[22:45:14] <phil_m> check if you have now /dev/mapper/root[22:45:14] <phil_m> simply type: ls /dev/mapper/root[22:45:14] <phil_m> you should get an output[22:46:06] <dodgejcr_> oh encryption is fun :(. I think someone should write up a very detailed guide (with pictures?) about doing it in manjaro. I usually help someone in here at least onece a week[22:46:06] *** aniki_ has joined #manjaro[22:46:06] *** aniki_ is now known as LyriCa[22:46:06] <manots> hey dodgejcr_[22:46:06] <phil_m> create a directory: mkdir /mnt/manjaro[22:46:14] <dodgejcr_> heyo manots[22:46:54] <phil_m> mount your partition with: mount /dev/mapper/root /mnt/manjaro[22:46:54] <phil_m> fredhoud: do you have now access to your files?[22:47:47] <fredhoud> I type cryptsetup open--type luks /dev/sda2 root [15:43] <@phil_m> enter the passphrase[22:47:57] <fredhoud> Sorry error entering[22:48:14] <phil_m> what do you mean with sorry entering?[22:48:38] <fredhoud> I get command not found.[22:48:50] <phil_m> which command?[22:49:06] <LyriCa> by anychance is anyone here having tourble acessing their encrypted device?[22:49:10] <manots> yes[22:49:12] <manots> everyone is[22:49:15] <phil_m> lol[22:49:24] <phil_m> Hi LyriCa[22:49:28] <LyriCa> what i did was that i upgrade dmy kernel[22:49:29] <fredhoud> cryptsetup open --type luks /dev/sda2 root[22:49:32] <LyriCa> and now im able to acess it[22:49:33] <phil_m> I'm just going it thru[22:49:33] *** semeion has joined #manjaro[22:49:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[22:49:43] <LyriCa> i see theres a crypsetup update[22:49:43] *** johnvan has joined #manjaro[22:49:48] <LyriCa> but i dnt wanna update it LOL[22:49:54] <LyriCa> id ont wanna get locked out[22:50:11] <LyriCa> i was in kernel 4.1[22:50:15] <phil_m> sudo pacman -S cryptsetup[22:50:29] <phil_m> LyriCa: do you have a kernel higher installed than 4.1?[22:50:30] <LyriCa> now im at 4.4 and it seens to be working[22:50:34] <LyriCa> yes[22:50:34] <phil_m> ok.[22:50:46] <phil_m> then you're fine. update cryptsetup and 4.1 will be also fine.[22:50:52] <LyriCa> ook[22:50:55] <LyriCa> i was scared out of my mind[22:51:02] <LyriCa> like what if it doesnt work anymore lool[22:51:04] <phil_m> why, like fredhoud[22:51:08] *** technolapin has joined #manjaro[22:51:08] <phil_m> as he is currently locked out[22:51:22] *** Guest27965 has quit IRC[22:51:32] <technolapin> hi[22:51:33] <phil_m> fredhoud: so is cryptsetup installed? if not install it with pacman -Sy cryptsetup[22:51:56] <phil_m> fredhoud: pacman -U http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname -m).pkg.tar.xz[22:51:57] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/8vWTQj] (link was unresponsive: http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname)[22:52:14] <LyriCa> so can he upgrade the kernel[22:52:16] <LyriCa> ?[22:52:52] <phil_m> yes, simply read the forum to get all the info you the cryptsetup issue: https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=31356.msg257698#msg257698[22:52:53] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/msMuUy] [Update] 2016-02-21 - Kernels, KDE, Pamac, Firefox, Thunderbird, Lumina, Intel[22:53:03] <technolapin> does anyone know anything about some wacom not being listed by xsetwacom even with the drivers installed?[22:54:03] <phil_m> fredhoud: on which step you got stuck?[22:54:11] <phil_m> which cmd do you don't find?[22:54:51] <phil_m> nothing happedn with your data. you're simply locked out, that is all.[22:55:01] <phil_m> so no biggy.[22:55:02] *** Akeno_ has quit IRC[22:55:59] <fredhoud> When I type pacman -Sy cryptionsetup, it says target not found.[22:56:20] <phil_m> cos that package don't exist[22:56:24] <phil_m> read before you type[22:56:32] <phil_m> pacman -U http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname -m).pkg.tar.xz[22:56:33] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/8vWTQj] (link was unresponsive: http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname)[22:56:33] *** [[[archtard]]] has joined #manjaro[22:56:41] <fredhoud> cryptionsetup[22:56:47] <phil_m> arg[22:56:53] <phil_m> simply copy paste what I paste[22:56:54] <phil_m> pacman -U http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname -m).pkg.tar.xz[22:56:54] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/8vWTQj] (link was unresponsive: http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname)[22:57:25] <phil_m> the package is called 'cryptsetup'[22:57:51] <fredhoud> The problem is that I'm talking to you through another computer.[22:57:56] <phil_m> and most likely the live-session is setup for the african server[22:58:07] <phil_m> I know that[22:58:18] <phil_m> so update the mirror list first for Germany[22:58:30] <phil_m> and choose the netzspielpatz mirror[22:58:43] <phil_m> or any other mirror which is synced[22:59:07] <phil_m> for example the UK server repo.manjaro.org.uk[22:59:45] <phil_m> and why do you type on a different PC if you have a running live-session with internet connection?[22:59:59] <phil_m> would it not make sense to type within the live-session and copy paste it?[23:00:04] <fredhoud> phil_m, I'm going to login from the computer that I'm having this issue with.[23:00:06] <phil_m> why so complicated[23:00:07] <AJSlye> fredhoud: you also typed the packagename wrong it's cryptsetup not cryptionsetup.[23:00:10] *** v0id09 has quit IRC[23:00:37] *** v0id09 has joined #manjaro[23:00:43] <phil_m> put in the USB stick in one of your broken PCs and boot up[23:00:46] <phil_m> it is much easier[23:00:55] <phil_m> you have to do it anyway[23:01:03] *** fredhoud_ has joined #manjaro[23:01:07] <phil_m> ok[23:01:13] <phil_m> so this is the second pc tehn?[23:01:24] <phil_m> the cmd for cryptsetup is: pacman -U http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname -m).pkg.tar.xz[23:01:24] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/8vWTQj] (link was unresponsive: http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname)[23:01:36] <fredhoud_> #phil_m, now I'm on the computer with the problem[23:01:43] <phil_m> pacman -U http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname -m).pkg.tar.xz[23:01:43] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/8vWTQj] (link was unresponsive: http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname)[23:01:58] <phil_m> I wonder how often I'll repeat my posts :P[23:02:06] <phil_m> I assume you will set todays record[23:02:42] <phil_m> maybe I should higher the ransom, hrhr ...[23:02:46] <phil_m> so joke aside[23:02:48] *** shndns has joined #manjaro[23:02:57] *** LyriCa has quit IRC[23:03:25] <phil_m> fredhoud: so does 'cryptsetup open --type luks /dev/sda2 root' work for you now?[23:04:17] *** Akeno has quit IRC[23:04:23] *** SpiritOfTux has quit IRC[23:04:31] <[[[archtard]]]> the things we do for fun[23:04:51] <phil_m> yep, I just get another bowl of popcorn[23:05:13] <phil_m> fredhoud: mann, komm mal in die puschen. ich hab nicht die ganze nacht zeit ...[23:05:15] <fredhoud_> got it. not it tells me enter a passphrase for /dev/sda2. So should I type the same password or what shoud I do?[23:05:20] *** mtn has joined #manjaro[23:05:30] <[[[archtard]]]> oh thank god[23:05:34] <phil_m> arg. get to the butcher and buy you a brain[23:05:36] <[[[archtard]]]> mtn is here[23:06:14] <phil_m> enter the passprase you have used to encrypt your HDD with. post me your credit card number and pin if you on it.[23:06:22] <phil_m> what else do you think you should enter?[23:06:37] <phil_m> so can we go on now? fredhoud[23:06:39] <sdouble25> mann, komm mal in die puschen. ich hab nicht die ganze nacht zeit ... ^^[23:06:51] <fredhoud_> Actually it tells me No key available with this passphrase.[23:07:14] <phil_m> where did you store your passkey then?[23:07:46] <[[[archtard]]]> well your personal info on the drive is certainly safe now :)[23:08:05] <phil_m> yep[23:08:06] <phil_m> totally[23:08:29] <phil_m> let me check the source code where the keys get stored[23:09:02] <fredhoud_> When I open GParted I see the Lukscrypt on /dev/sda2. I installed it automated through the orignial installation,[23:09:17] *** astrofog has quit IRC[23:09:37] <AJSlye> fredhoud_: what kernel is on the live image yor using?[23:09:38] <fredhoud_> I never have encrypted the hard dive manaully.[23:09:40] * [[[archtard]]] considers a donation to manjaro just because of the support the team provides[23:10:18] <AJSlye> uname -r[23:11:10] <tefter> int't it easier to make encypted file ;)[23:11:33] <phil_m> did you use also lvm on top of it just to be more secure?[23:11:40] *** flipper-maniac has quit IRC[23:12:07] <phil_m> post me your /etc/fstab[23:12:36] <phil_m> AJSlye: the kernel doesn't matter here[23:12:48] <phil_m> the one on the livecd was the kernel he used to encrypt it.[23:13:18] <phil_m> it might be that he was so fantastic to add also lvm into the mix to make it more easier ...[23:13:49] <phil_m> fredhoud: please post me your '/etc/fstab' content[23:14:03] <phil_m> so we know what is going on.[23:14:08] *** jsamyth is now known as jsamythAFK[23:14:36] *** manjaro-web|3025 has joined #manjaro[23:14:40] *** sdouble25 has quit IRC[23:15:01] <PMunch> I just created a rofi wrapper script for using KeePass password databases. Makes password management a lot easier when using i3 or other keyboard only WM/DEs[23:15:57] <H-H-H> today i joined the 64bit revolution and am now fiddling with unity32 lol[23:16:23] <phil_m> fredhoud_: still there?[23:16:32] <fredhoud_> yes[23:16:37] <phil_m> post me your '/etc/fstab' file[23:16:40] <phil_m> so we can go on.[23:16:47] <manjaro-web|3025> update problems with encrypted root drive- struggling with instructions, can anyone help?[23:17:00] <phil_m> welcome to the party manjaro-web[23:17:13] <phil_m> what did you use. just luks or lvm in the mix?[23:17:14] <[[[archtard]]]> lol[23:17:19] <manots> lol[23:17:29] <phil_m> now I need more popcorn[23:17:35] <phil_m> it goes all night long :P[23:17:37] <[[[archtard]]]> and some wine[23:17:38] <manjaro-web|3025> I have nspawn setup and root decrypted and mounted...now what?[23:17:50] <phil_m> ok.[23:17:52] <fredhoud_> When I type '/etc/fstab' it says permission denied.[23:17:52] <phil_m> graet[23:18:19] <phil_m> fredhoud_: great. buy a book called 'linux for dummies' ...[23:18:36] <phil_m> no open a tool like kate and open the file /etc/fstab[23:18:49] <phil_m> post the content using pastebin or some like that[23:18:55] <phil_m> manjaro-web[23:19:01] <phil_m> do you have access to pacman[23:19:09] <Zenther> is repo.manjaro.org correct? that is a lot of out of date mirrors[23:19:12] <phil_m> or did you not yet setup internet for the chroot[23:19:13] *** technolapin has quit IRC[23:19:19] *** Akeno has joined #manjaro[23:19:28] <fredhoud_> ok, thanks for the advice. I won't be taking any more of your time. Thanks again.[23:19:29] <phil_m> Zenther: normally ses[23:19:35] <manjaro-web|3025> chroot has internet- nspawn did that automaticall[23:19:37] *** fredhoud_ has quit IRC[23:19:39] <phil_m> ok.[23:19:43] *** Akeno is now known as Guest70828[23:19:50] <phil_m> simply update the cryptsetup:[23:19:56] <phil_m> pacman -U http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname -m).pkg.tar.xz[23:19:56] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/8vWTQj] (link was unresponsive: http://repo.manjaro.org.uk/pool/overlay/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-$(uname)[23:20:06] <phil_m> after that it should work again.[23:20:10] <shndns> Anyone live in the Seattle area??[23:20:13] *** Guest70828 has left #manjaro[23:20:23] <manots> shndns: ?[23:20:33] <manjaro-web|3025> error: '/var/cache/pacman/pkg/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz': package missing required signature[23:20:36] <shndns> You do?[23:20:45] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[23:21:04] <phil_m> pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz[23:21:08] <phil_m> should work[23:21:39] <manjaro-web|3025> weird, it worked the second time[23:21:44] <phil_m> ok.[23:21:55] <phil_m> so which kernel did you use? 4.1 series?[23:21:56] <manjaro-web|3025> oh- different command[23:22:11] <manjaro-web|3025> was on 3.16 I think[23:22:17] <manjaro-web|3025> iirc[23:22:21] <phil_m> ah ok. that was broken also[23:22:23] <AJSlye> uname -r[23:22:47] <manjaro-web|3025> ok, is back to prompt- should be fixed then?[23:23:01] <Zenther> phil_m, you going to put up the nvidia 361.28 drivers anytime soon? I am on arch and there are issues with it and steam games.[23:23:02] <phil_m> you can install also kernel 4.4 if you like with mhwd-kernel -i linux44[23:23:20] <phil_m> anyway, you should be good now manjaro-web[23:23:25] *** darksim has left #manjaro[23:23:32] *** darksim has joined #manjaro[23:23:45] *** darksim has left #manjaro[23:24:04] *** darksim has joined #manjaro[23:24:21] *** nicklas_ has quit IRC[23:24:31] <phil_m> Zenther: no, cos there are issues[23:24:46] <manjaro-web|3025> is newer kernal better/worse security/stability wise? not sure why I was on 3.16 in the first place- guess it's a manual update thing and that was original?[23:24:57] <Zenther> yea, I have to use a custom steam launch line to get some games to work[23:25:16] <phil_m> manjaro-web: simply try the new kenrel out.[23:25:23] <tefter> manjaro-web|3025 users with newer cpu's eg skylake need 4.4[23:25:41] <phil_m> http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_4.4[23:25:46] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/ztggSa] Linux 4.4 - Linux Kernel Newbies[23:25:47] <phil_m> there you can read all about it[23:25:48] <AJSlye> manjaro-web|3025: Manjaro won't automatically change kernel series for you, what ever was installed originally will only recieve upsates within that series.[23:26:06] *** s8321414 has joined #manjaro[23:26:29] *** KaBoom has joined #manjaro[23:26:36] *** jsamythAFK is now known as jsamyth[23:26:37] *** manjaro-kde5 has joined #manjaro[23:27:00] *** ringo32 has quit IRC[23:27:01] <manjaro-web|3025> thanks so much for the help and the great distro- first time this has broke in years.[23:27:13] <phil_m> manjaro-web: sorry for that[23:27:24] <phil_m> it simply slipped[23:27:30] <manjaro-web|3025> eh- it happens, no worries[23:27:33] *** manjaro-kde5 has quit IRC[23:27:38] <phil_m> easy ;)[23:30:21] *** LuMint has joined #manjaro[23:30:41] <LuMint> is there a gpg signature for manjaro images?[23:31:02] *** nuno_nunes has quit IRC[23:31:12] <phil_m> LuMint, not yet. should we start with that?[23:31:19] <LuMint> why not[23:31:43] <LuMint> looking at the scandal with the mint forum, better safe than sorry, eh?[23:31:53] <phil_m> hmm. we have to think how we pull that of.[23:31:59] <LuMint> after all, arch linux does have a gpg signature[23:32:28] *** Moo has joined #manjaro[23:32:42] <LuMint> i mean, chances of someone hacking a key server are extremely low[23:32:49] <phil_m> so checksum on tree different places is not good so far ?!?[23:33:07] <phil_m> we have them on github, in our forum, on sourceforge and on several other pages.[23:33:15] <mike-zal> what is gpg signature?[23:33:24] <phil_m> but yes we can also introduse gpg signatures[23:33:29] <LuMint> phil_m: sounds good to me[23:33:33] <jsamyth> mike-zal: Google is your friend.[23:33:37] *** manjaro-kde5-- has quit IRC[23:34:17] *** Matombo has quit IRC[23:34:37] <phil_m> maybe we start with 16.06 release ...[23:34:51] <LuMint> nice![23:35:08] <Moo> Hi guys, concerning recent encryption issue, I followed all the steps, but when I run pacman command I get error "package missing required signatures". Am I missing something?[23:36:14] *** s8321414 has quit IRC[23:36:27] *** s8321414 has joined #manjaro[23:36:49] <phil_m> LuMint: keep track on it if you like: https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-tools/issues/188[23:36:51] <FatalException> [http://is.gd/8204Pf] Should we use gpg signatures also for our ISO images? · Issue #188 · manjaro/manjaro-tools · GitHub[23:36:53] *** s8321414 has quit IRC[23:37:12] <phil_m> Hi Moo.[23:37:37] <phil_m> after you get the exception try: pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz[23:37:44] <phil_m> or: pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/cryptsetup-1.7.0-1.1-i686.pkg.tar.xz[23:37:59] <phil_m> depending on your architecture[23:38:02] <LuMint> phil_m: ok[23:38:02] *** s8321414 has joined #manjaro[23:39:03] <Moo> Thanks phil_m it worked![23:39:51] <phil_m> ok, I also updated the guide[23:39:58] <manjaro-web|3025> with mhwd-kernel -i linux44 I get error: no targets specified (use -h for help)[23:40:06] *** alfa3 has quit IRC[23:40:34] <AJSlye> did you use sudo?[23:40:41] <manjaro-web|3025> I'm root[23:40:48] <AJSlye> sudo mhwd-kernel -i linux44[23:40:57] <AJSlye> oh OK then[23:41:35] <LuMint> phil_m: people usually don't look in three places anyway, so it's sensible to have a fool-proof system implemented. Moreover, if the mint team had done sone (and they were going to about a year ago, but then abandoned the idea for some reason), they could now say "if you followed our basic verifying procedure, you would have been safe"[23:41:35] <phil_m> ok. type then mhwd-kernel -h[23:41:47] <LuMint> *had done so[23:42:41] <phil_m> manjaro-web: check with -h which the cmd is for installing a new kernel[23:42:50] <LuMint> it would have saved them much trouble now[23:42:54] <phil_m> normally it is 'mhwd-kernel -i <kernel>[23:43:43] <phil_m> also it would be good to update the pacman db first with pacman -Sy[23:43:58] <phil_m> otherwise the output makes sense as it doesn't know any package[23:44:12] *** naringas has joined #manjaro[23:44:31] <phil_m> I recommend to update the mirror list first with 'pacman-mirrors -g'[23:44:43] <manjaro-web|3025> I did a -Syyu[23:45:05] <phil_m> check the -h switch of mhwd-kernel first[23:45:09] *** Kerd has quit IRC[23:45:11] <phil_m> I assume it is -i[23:45:26] <manjaro-web|3025> looks like that's the command-[23:45:42] <phil_m> ok[23:45:53] <phil_m> anyway, have fun with your fixed machine ;)[23:46:20] <manjaro-web|3025> is linux44 correct?[23:46:36] <AJSlye> yes linux44 would be correct[23:48:06] *** Manj-1509-Lxde has joined #manjaro[23:48:40] <manjaro-web|3025> don't understand why that wouldn't work.... will try it out of chroot after reboot I guess... Thanks again for help.[23:49:02] *** Manj-1509-Lxde has quit IRC[23:49:04] <phil_m> no problem[23:49:22] *** manjaro-web|3025 has quit IRC[23:50:46] *** KaBoom has quit IRC[23:51:47] <AJSlye> mmmm, left overs.LOL[23:52:23] <phil_m> bye all. going to bed now.[23:52:30] <manots> see ya[23:52:40] *** phil_m has quit IRC[23:54:06] *** CykloTronic86 has joined #manjaro[23:54:10] *** kowalskiml has quit IRC[23:54:11] *** CykloTronic86 has quit IRC[23:55:33] <LuMint> good night[23:55:37] *** LuMint has left #manjaro[23:58:05] *** Lainemi has quit IRC[23:58:28] *** naringas has quit IRC