macports IRC logs [July 31

[00:12:35] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81440 /trunk/dports/net/youtube-dl/ (. Portfile):
[00:12:35] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81440
[00:12:35] <CIA-46> youtube-dl: new port, version 2011.03.29; see #30469
[00:19:04] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81441 /trunk/dports/net/vsftpd/Portfile:
[00:19:04] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81441
[00:19:04] <CIA-46> vsftpd: update homepage and master_sites; see #30447
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[00:27:13] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81442 /trunk/dports/_resources/port1.0/group/ruby-1.0.tcl:
[00:27:14] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81442
[00:27:14] <CIA-46> ruby-1.0.tcl: remove ruby.inoack.com which is offline, possibly gone; see #30473
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[00:39:12] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81443 /trunk/dports/multimedia/fluidsynth/Portfile:
[00:39:12] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81443
[00:39:12] <CIA-46> fluidsynth: update to 1.1.3; update homepage, master_sites and livecheck; see #30476
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[01:39:21] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81444 /trunk/dports/x11/winetricks/Portfile:
[01:39:21] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81444
[01:39:21] <CIA-46> winetricks: remove zenity dependency on lion since it can't build right now; see http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-users/2011-July/025041.html
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[01:43:46] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81445 /trunk/dports/x11/winetricks/Portfile:
[01:43:46] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81445
[01:43:46] <CIA-46> winetricks: fix error in previous commit
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[02:06:28] <dijital1> is there a problem with the atlas package?
[02:06:42] <dijital1> that would prevent it from building?
[02:09:51] <Raim> dijital1: maybe? http://trac.macports.org/query?status=!closed&port=~atlas
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[02:10:22] <dijital1> thank you
[02:10:35] <dijital1> looks like it's not just me
[02:10:48] <Raim> often you can avoid atlas using the -atlas variants
[02:12:51] <dijital1> ahh.. I didn't know that. always thought that variants was for adding different options not removing dependencies
[02:12:58] <dijital1> good tip. thanks again
[02:39:08] <CIA-46> fotanus at macports dot org * r81446 /branches/gsoc11-post-destroot/base/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[02:39:08] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81446
[02:39:08] <CIA-46> Fixed some bugs testing agains real ports.
[02:39:08] <CIA-46> Added whitelist conf files to installation.
[02:42:47] <jmr_mp> dijital1: it's not exactly just removing a dependency, it's using something else (like Accelerate.framework) instead
[02:43:02] <dijital1> i see
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[02:47:58] <CIA-46> vinc17 at macports dot org * r81447 /trunk/dports/mail/mairix/Portfile:
[02:47:58] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81447
[02:47:58] <CIA-46> Bump to version 0.23.
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[03:26:21] <CIA-46> l2g at macports dot org * r81448 /trunk/dports/perl/p5-mojolicious/Portfile:
[03:26:21] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81448
[03:26:21] <CIA-46> p5-mojolicious: new version 1.68
[03:29:59] <CIA-46> l2g at macports dot org * r81449 /trunk/dports/perl/p5-xml-libxml/Portfile:
[03:29:59] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81449
[03:29:59] <CIA-46> p5-xml-libxml: new version 1.84
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[03:33:58] <RandalSchwartz> I should be able to use ports while logged in as root right?
[03:34:00] <RandalSchwartz> without the sudo?
[03:34:55] <RandalSchwartz> hmm.  TMPDIR is set in my root shell
[03:34:59] <RandalSchwartz> maybe that breaks things
[03:35:25] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81450 /trunk/dports/java/tomcat5/ (Portfile files/patch-catalina.sh):
[03:35:26] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81450
[03:35:26] <CIA-46> tomcat5: don't use .. components in patchfile; see #30451
[03:38:45] <RandalSchwartz> whoa!  that was it
[03:39:03] <RandalSchwartz> port should unset TMPDIR if not owned by the low-priv user
[03:39:32] <RandalSchwartz> or bash should not set TMPDIR, but that's another problem :)
[03:39:52] <pogma> launchd sets it
[03:40:20] <pogma> how did ports fail?
[03:40:33] <RandalSchwartz> root owned $TMPDIR because I'm logged in as root
[03:40:48] <RandalSchwartz> so when port dropped privs, it couldn't touch $TMPDIR
[03:41:02] <RandalSchwartz> and many things started failing, like patch
[03:41:11] <pogma> ah, launchd sets TMPDIR to a per-user directory (owned by the user)
[03:41:23] <RandalSchwartz> right - so dropping privs will break taht
[03:41:28] <RandalSchwartz> how was that not seen before?
[03:41:45] <pogma> people don't usually log in as root, or run ports as root
[03:41:59] <pogma> file a ticket
[03:42:03] <RandalSchwartz> I using an ssh key to someone else's box
[03:42:09] <RandalSchwartz> and trying to fix their ports
[03:42:11] <RandalSchwartz> worked before. :)
[03:42:28] <RandalSchwartz> merlyn @ this box -> root @ thatbox
[03:42:32] <RandalSchwartz> no need for sudo
[03:42:37] <pogma> ah, yeah, helping someone, that was your mistake
[03:42:38] <RandalSchwartz> ahh - sudo probably unsets TMPDIR
[03:42:47] <RandalSchwartz> so that's what masked it
[03:43:10] <RandalSchwartz> so perhaps had I even typed the needless sudo, it would have worked
[03:44:20] <RandalSchwartz> but port can just unset TMPDIR too, and that'd solve it
[03:46:35] <pogma> file a ticket :)
[03:57:20] <RandalSchwartz> heh.  just to install git, I'm bringing in about half of the gnu toolchain
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[04:08:06] <_wms> jmr_mp: something about v2.0 breaks the way the servers sync their ports.
[04:08:57] <jmr_mp> _wms: hrm
[04:10:00] <_wms> jmr_mp: the mprsyncup server does not know about py27-redis either
[04:11:17] <jmr_mp> _wms: it doesn't have the portfile, or it's just not in the index?
[04:11:29] <_wms> jmr_mp: index? port info fails to find it
[04:12:01] <jmr_mp> _wms: ok, so presumably there should be an error when running portindex?
[04:13:08] <_wms> jmr_mp: actually, there is no py27-redis? http://svn.macports.org/repository/macports/trunk/dports/python/
[04:13:19] <jmr_mp> _wms: it's a subport of py-redis
[04:13:53] <_wms> Failed to parse file python/py-redis/Portfile: can't set "python.versions": invalid command name "subp
[04:13:53] <_wms> ort
[04:14:13] <_wms> trying to see when that error happened...
[04:14:29] <jmr_mp> _wms: that sounds very much like running an old base version
[04:16:49] <_wms> jmr_mp: ok, found the old version. Now to figure out why mprsyncup is building/using it
[04:21:26] <_wms> jmr_mp: oh wow, mprsyncup is definitely doing it wrong.
[04:21:58] <_wms> jmr_mp: looks like the job has been using trunk from rev 68637 this whole time
[04:22:17] <jmr_mp> _wms: fun
[04:22:30] <_wms> jmr_mp: note the two variables TMPDIR and TBASE
[04:23:29] <jmr_mp> ah, I see how this could be problematic :)
[04:24:00] <_wms> jmr_mp: I think TMPDIR==TBASE, but was there a reason to have 2 base locations?
[04:24:14] <jmr_mp> _wms: not that I know of
[04:24:34] <jmr_mp> maybe someone was thinking release and trunk should be different
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[04:26:12] <jmr_mp> apparently TBASE/RBASE were pre-existing, and you added ROOT/TMPDIR when merging portindex and rsyncup
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[04:28:12] <_wms> jmr_mp: yeah looks like I failed to notice the two scripts were using different variables for the same thing
[04:28:39] <_wms> jmr_mp: pwnt by svn blame :)
[04:32:45] <_wms> jmr_mp: I'm getting a different error now? Trying to run the port it builds from trunk now fails to create the registry.db file
[04:33:17] <jmr_mp> _wms: oh, was it using flat before?
[04:33:42] <_wms> jmr_mp: http://paste.lisp.org/display/123680
[04:33:44] <jmr_mp> _wms: the first command you run needs to have sufficient privileges
[04:33:55] <_wms> jmr_mp: I ran that as root
[04:34:32] <_wms> jmr_mp: is it dropping privs?
[04:34:48] <jmr_mp> shouldn't be
[04:35:26] <_wms> jmr_mp: obviously as root I can touch files in that directory
[04:36:11] <jmr_mp> how odd... maybe it checks permissions and sees it doesn't own the dir
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[04:37:12] <_wms> jmr_mp: I think I saw this on the buildbot slave too, so maybe a recent trunk regression?
[04:37:33] <jmr_mp> _wms: is that also owned by nobody?
[04:37:47] <_wms> jmr_mp: the rest of the servers were upgraded to v2.0 with "port selfupdate"
[04:38:40] <_wms> jmr_mp: oh, nvm, running port without privs on the slave gives a different error, and with privs it works
[04:39:20] <jmr_mp> _wms: installing the files owned by nobody and then running as root is kind of unusual
[04:39:44] <_wms> jmr_mp: I updated the paste with the other error
[04:40:59] <jmr_mp> _wms: what's in the sources.conf for that one?
[04:41:33] <_wms> jmr_mp: for the slave?
[04:41:39] <jmr_mp> _wms: yes
[04:41:47] <_wms> jmr_mp: file:///opt/mports/dports [default,nosync]
[04:42:05] <jmr_mp> just that? hmm...
[04:42:07] <_wms> jmr_mp: though it was using rsync per our email thread
[04:43:34] <_wms> jmr_mp: anyway, I think the slave is working otherwise
[04:43:51] <jmr_mp> yeah.. I can't reproduce anything like that
[04:44:34] <_wms> jmr_mp: so the MP_USER in mprsyncup should be root or unspecified?
[04:44:59] <_wms> jmr_mp: for whatever reason that was inherited from the port index job
[04:45:05] <jmr_mp> _wms: unspecified should be fine I think
[04:45:13] <jmr_mp> same for group
[04:45:23] <_wms> jmr_mp: ok
[04:46:14] <_wms> jmr_mp: trying again
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[04:47:29] <_wms> jmr_mp: looking good...
[04:50:28] <jmr_mp> _wms: the only time getportdir should try to fetch something is if ![file isdirectory $sourcepath]
[04:53:43] <jmr_mp> possibly if the directory wasn't readable that would be false?
[04:53:46] <_wms> jmr_mp: the source dir and parent dir on the slave has mode 700, so
[04:53:53] <_wms> jmr_mp: exactly
[04:54:18] <_wms> jmr_mp: oh, buildbot slaves have a weird umask by default
[04:54:34] <_wms> jmr_mp: so that is why the mode is x00
[04:55:07] <jmr_mp> _wms: ok, so shouldn't be a problem unless you need to run unprivileged port commands on the slave for some reason
[04:58:54] <_wms> jmr_mp: ok
[05:01:42] <CIA-46> wsiegrist at apple dot com * r81451 /trunk/base/portmgr/jobs/mprsyncup:
[05:01:42] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81451
[05:01:42] <CIA-46> Use the right copy of trunk to build index. Do not use nobody:nobody.
[05:01:51] <_wms> jmr_mp: should be all better now
[05:01:58] <jmr_mp> _wms: great, thanks
[05:41:04] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81452 /trunk/base/src/macports1.0/macports.tcl:
[05:41:04] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81452
[05:41:04] <CIA-46> only try to fetch in getportdir if the url is in fact a file, not if it's e.g. an unreadable directory
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[05:59:37] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81453 /trunk/dports/devel/buildbot/Portfile:
[05:59:37] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81453
[05:59:37] <CIA-46> buildbot: update to 0.8.4p2
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[07:04:18] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81454 /trunk/base/ (Makefile.in portmgr/dmg/postflight):
[07:04:18] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81454
[07:04:18] <CIA-46> make group creation tiger compatible, and try to fix invalid PrimaryGroupID for runuser on tiger
[07:04:30] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81455 /users/dports/ports/fuse/:
[07:04:30] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81455
[07:04:30] <CIA-46> clean up users directory
[07:04:48] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81456 /trunk/dports/lang/logtalk/Portfile:
[07:04:48] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81456
[07:04:48] <CIA-46> logtalk: maintainer update to 2.43.0; see #30485
[07:06:02] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81457 /contrib/cpan2port/cpan2port:
[07:06:02] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81457
[07:06:02] <CIA-46> cpan2port: use sha256 instead of sha1; line-wrap checksums and
[07:06:02] <CIA-46> depends lines in generated portfile
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[07:14:34] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81458 /trunk/dports/editors/org-mode/Portfile:
[07:14:34] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81458
[07:14:34] <CIA-46> org-mode: update to v7.7
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[07:57:30] <gsh> sorry if this is an easy question, but is there a way to install and uninstall with one command? aptitude does it with appending a - to remove stuff, like this: sudo aptitude install python- perl
[08:09:31] <jmr_mp> no
[08:12:21] <jmr_mp> I mean, you can do something like: echo "install foo\nuninstall bar" | sudo port -F -
[08:12:33] <jmr_mp> but that isn't exactly "easy"
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[08:16:35] <gsh> ah ok
[08:17:17] <gsh> btw thanks a bunch for macports! i'm still on tiger on ppc on a bunch of machines and macports makes them usable.
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[08:38:16] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81459 /trunk/dports/fuse/fuse4x/Portfile:
[08:38:16] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81459
[08:38:16] <CIA-46> fuse4x: install library as libfuse.dylib rather than
[08:38:16] <CIA-46> libfuse4x.dylib. The port conflicts with macfuse anyway, so there's no
[08:38:16] <CIA-46> need to keep them separate, and this will make it easier for dependent
[08:38:17] <CIA-46> ports to find the library.
[08:41:39] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81460 /trunk/dports/fuse/ (8 files in 8 dirs):
[08:41:39] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81460
[08:41:39] <CIA-46> Bump revision on ports that can depend on fuse4x because of the
[08:41:40] <CIA-46> library name change in r81459
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[09:05:54] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81461 /trunk/dports/fuse/ (encfs/Portfile ext2fuse/Portfile):
[09:05:54] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81461
[09:05:54] <CIA-46> encfs, ext2fuse: allow fuse4x to satisfy macfuse dependency
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[11:13:38] <CIA-46> afb at macports dot org * r81462 /trunk/dports/sysutils/zeroinstall-injector/Portfile:
[11:13:38] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81462
[11:13:38] <CIA-46> zeroinstall-injector: upgrade to version 1.2, now requires python 2.6
[11:13:38] <CIA-46> (and add workaround, for silly framework-only installation of python)
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[11:24:40] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81463 /trunk/dports/fuse/fuse4x-kext/Portfile:
[11:24:40] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81463
[11:24:40] <CIA-46> fuse4x-kext: update post-activate logic. If another version of the
[11:24:40] <CIA-46> kext is currently loaded, attempt to unload it. If that fails, print a
[11:24:40] <CIA-46> list of filesystems that need to be unmounted. See #30437.
[11:28:51] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81464 /trunk/base/src/images_to_archives.tcl:
[11:28:51] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81464
[11:28:51] <CIA-46> add progress output to images_to_archives.tcl (#30347)
[11:44:35] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81465 /branches/release_2_0/ (9 files in 6 dirs):
[11:44:35] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81465
[11:44:35] <CIA-46> merge r81464 from trunk:
[11:44:35] <CIA-46> add progress output to images_to_archives.tcl (#30347)
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[11:50:15] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81466 /branches/release_2_0/ (10 files in 6 dirs):
[11:50:15] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81466
[11:50:15] <CIA-46> merge r81454 from trunk:
[11:50:15] <CIA-46> make group creation tiger compatible, and try to fix invalid PrimaryGroupID for runuser on tiger
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[11:58:54] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81467 /trunk/base/ (Makefile.in portmgr/dmg/postflight):
[11:58:54] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81467
[11:58:54] <CIA-46> set a RealName for runuser to work around Tiger System Preferences bug, and add missing root privileges check in makefile
[12:02:18] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81468 /branches/release_2_0/ (10 files in 6 dirs):
[12:02:19] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81468
[12:02:19] <CIA-46> merge r81467 from trunk:
[12:02:19] <CIA-46> set a RealName for runuser to work around Tiger System Preferences bug, and add missing root privileges check in makefile
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[12:40:00] <CIA-46> raimue at macports dot org * r81469 /trunk/dports/devel/valgrind/ (Portfile files/patch-xcode4.diff):
[12:40:00] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81469
[12:40:00] <CIA-46> devel/valgrind:
[12:40:00] <CIA-46> Updated compatibility patch for Xcode 4 and above, initial patch was faulty.
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[13:04:47] <CIA-46> hum at macports dot org * r81470 /users/hum/:
[13:04:47] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81470
[13:04:47] <CIA-46> create hum user directory
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[13:20:50] <CIA-46> raimue at macports dot org * r81471 /trunk/dports/editors/MacVim/Portfile:
[13:20:50] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81471
[13:20:50] <CIA-46> editors/MacVim:
[13:20:50] <CIA-46> Update to version 7.3.snapshot61
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[13:37:05] <Raim> would anyone do me a favor and test this on Snow Leopard? http://raim.codingfarm.de/etc/linkerfail.tar.gz
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[13:50:43] <jmr_mp> Raim: yep, seems busted
[13:51:07] <Raim> jmr_mp: hm, then it's not a regression as I thought
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[13:55:14] <jmr_mp> Raim: -undefined dynamic_lookup seems to be an effective workaround
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[13:56:04] <Raim> jmr_mp: which means the loader needs to resolve the symbol, right?
[13:56:45] <jmr_mp> Raim: hm, actually, that fails at runtime
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[13:57:29] <Raim> yep, it leaves the symbol as undefined in the binary and the loader can't find it either
[13:57:50] <Raim> strangely enough supplying both object files instead of the archive works just fine
[13:59:01] <Raim> switching to a data symbol by using "int foo = 42;" also works
[14:00:17] <jmr_mp> must be mishandling .bss or whatever
[14:00:53] <jmr_mp> even -flat_namespace -undefined warning doesn't work
[14:01:17] <jmr_mp> which is just weird since all the objects should be in the executable at runtime
[14:02:54] <Raim> jmr_mp: could you tell me your Xcode build so I can include this in the rdar?
[14:03:12] <jmr_mp> DevToolsCore-1809.0; DevToolsSupport-1806.0
[14:03:16] <jmr_mp> BuildVersion: 10M2518
[14:03:30] <Raim> thanks
[14:03:51] <jmr_mp> not that they probably care about Xcode 3 at all
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[14:09:52] <jmr_mp> Raim: what does work is -all_load
[14:10:56] <Raim> jmr_mp: probably this forces the same behavior as using *.o
[14:11:31] <jmr_mp> it's interesting because this means it's not loading all the archive members normally
[14:12:17] <jmr_mp> even though it claims it loads all members that satisfy an undefined reference
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[14:27:12] <Raim> from the ld64 source: // <rdar://problem/5894163> need to search archives for overrides of common symbols
[14:27:31] <Raim> not sure if this is a TODO or that this section is supposed to do this
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[14:40:43] <Raim> hm, that dates back to 2008 according to the ChangeLog of ld64-97.2
[14:41:37] <Raim> (newest ChangeLog starts at ld64-100, any older history was cut off)
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[14:55:25] <MisterE> hey
[14:56:11] <gloryma__> Hi.  Did anyone notice ccache doesn't work in Lion (maybe in SL too) ?
[14:56:50] <MisterE> is there a gui working for 2.0?
[14:57:18] <gloryma__> What I mean is it doesn't get used by macports despite configureccache=yes
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[14:57:51] <MisterE> pallet crashes on me when I point it to the new Tcl folder location
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[15:28:34] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r81472 /trunk/dports/kde/kdelibs4/Portfile:
[15:28:34] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81472
[15:28:34] <CIA-46> kdelibs4: add docbook-xsl-ns to help with failed builds, no revbump
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[15:35:49] <Raim> MisterE: unfortunately, there aren't any developers working on Pallet/MacPorts.app at the moment :(
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[15:53:19] <CIA-46> mk at macports dot org * r81473 /trunk/dports/kde/kdegames4/ (Portfile files/ files/kgamerenderer_h-patch.diff):
[15:53:19] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81473
[15:53:19] <CIA-46> kdegames4: update to 4.7.0 with a patch kindly supplied by Ian Wadham
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[16:25:24] <mpbot_> snc is Jeremy and maintainer of kde-l10n-el, shibboleth, kde-l10n-gl, and log4shib (of 171 total) and is in Boston; local time is Sun 10:23 EDT
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[16:46:00] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r81474 /trunk/dports/kde/kdenetwork4/Portfile:
[16:46:00] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81474
[16:46:00] <CIA-46> kdenetwork4: dependency kdebase4-runtime is now kde4-runtime
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[17:03:36] <afb> 3 years to add a "reinplace" warning ? sheesh.
[17:03:54] <afb> even adding variables to reinplace, shouldn't take more than like 3 hours
[17:06:17] <afb> ... to patch, that was. guess I was confusing sed and sed in my head
[17:06:57] <snc> sed -i '' sed afb
[17:07:02] <CIA-46> afb at macports dot org * r81475 /trunk/base/src/port/port.tcl:
[17:07:02] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81475
[17:07:02] <CIA-46> add replaced_by to selectors
[17:07:03] <snc> s/sed/sed/g
[17:07:04] <snc> derp
[17:07:06] <snc> ftfy heh
[17:07:14] <afb> oh, that pesky -i flag.
[17:07:16] <snc> i hate ruining my own jokes, but i should be use to it by now
[17:07:30] <afb> trying to write one variant that works on both gnu and bsd sed is "fun"
[17:08:08] <snc> heh
[17:08:17] <snc> well you just drop in an empty argument for the bsd one
[17:08:33] <afb> yeah, and that drives gnused nuts
[17:08:54] <snc> right, but you can test which one should be in use, no
[17:08:56] <afb> since it has some kind of inlined variant of "option"
[17:09:14] <afb> yeah, a couple of dozen of autoconf lines "works"
[17:09:27] <snc> afb: so non-bsd sed accepts --help
[17:09:32] <snc> whereas bsd does not
[17:09:38] <snc> you could use that exit code to test
[17:09:41] <afb> the real solution is to use perl. or "cp", if you wuss out
[17:09:54] <snc> haha
[17:10:08] <snc> "real solution" and "perl" in the same sentence. I feel like i'm in the early 90s again
[17:10:34] <afb> nothing like the swiss army chainsaw when the natives are acting up
[17:10:44] <snc> wooow :-D
[17:10:57] <afb> anyway, checking for --help to determine features sounds like a hack
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[17:11:33] <afb> always comes back to bite you, say when both grew long options or so
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[17:12:07] <Tatsh> so i think macports qt4 is not working with lion atm
[17:12:19] <snc> tatsh correct
[17:12:33] <Tatsh> how do i find out what else needs updating so i can just install those?
[17:13:27] <snc> 'Port outdated'
[17:13:35] <afb> snc: anyway, "reinplace" does copy - the autolove it has is for the -E flag
[17:13:54] <afb> which naturally also had to be different between the two, just for show
[17:13:55] <Tatsh> oh well
[17:13:58] <Tatsh> can't do it now then
[17:14:14] <Tatsh> many to update; including kde
[17:14:20] <snc> Yuppers.
[17:14:20] <Tatsh> and kde of course relies upon qt4
[17:14:38] <snc> You can make use of -p flag
[17:14:48] <snc> To continue past failures
[17:15:09] <snc> To the next port
[17:15:20] <Tatsh> for most it's just (platform darwin 10 != darwin 11)
[17:15:36] <snc> So kde ports will fail but it'll continue to hit everything non-qt4
[17:15:37] <Tatsh> so trying -p
[17:15:49] <snc> Rather than halting on error
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[17:21:19] <Tatsh> snc, you know if i can pass the job of compiling over to my other system?
[17:21:26] <Tatsh> distcc sort of thing
[17:21:41] <Tatsh> the system i'm on is much faster than my macbook that has os x installed, but it's gentoo
[17:22:11] <snc> i don't think we've tested distcc or the like
[17:22:23] <snc> i take that back
[17:22:29] <afb> it sorta kinda almost works if the machines are the same
[17:22:31] <snc> configuredistcc
[17:22:40] <getxsick> how can i uninstall all deactivated ports?
[17:22:52] <Tatsh> well, it is easy to get the SDK onto this
[17:22:56] <afb> but trying to build os x on gentoo doesn't work (anymore)
[17:22:59] <Raim> getxsick: sudo port uninstall inactive
[17:23:02] <snc> sudo port -f uninstall deactivated
[17:23:05] <snc> er right
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[17:23:06] <snc> inactive
[17:23:06] <snc> haha
[17:23:12] <Tatsh> and to get the correct version of GCC
[17:23:24] <afb> actually gcc is probably the least of the problems
[17:23:26] <getxsick> is it going to uninstall also unneeded anymore dependecies?
[17:23:46] <snc> gexsick: you can do that with `unrequested` methinks
[17:23:55] <afb> even if it doesn't build, at least it has some source
[17:24:07] <getxsick> "methinks" ?
[17:24:18] <snc> "it seems to me"
[17:24:52] <Raim> getxsick: there is a pseudo-port "leaves" which refers to all unrequested ports without dependents
[17:25:09] <getxsick> Raim: how to clean it?
[17:25:11] <afb> I guess the definition of "free" requested with Xcode 4.0 died with 4.1
[17:26:26] <afb> i.e. it really was the $5 after all, rather than having open devtools
[17:26:47] <Raim> getxsick: sudo port uninstall leaves
[17:27:08] <Tatsh> afb, well i dunno; i'm part of the ios dev programme anyway
[17:27:11] <Raim> getxsick: you can also review this before using "port echo leaves"
[17:27:15] <Tatsh> and you get xcode beta's
[17:27:25] <Tatsh> i'm a little unhappy with 4.x in general
[17:27:36] <Tatsh> the plist editor is ridiculously crashy; and the IDE in general
[17:27:56] <CIA-46> mk at macports dot org * r81476 /trunk/dports/kde/kdepim4-runtime/Portfile:
[17:27:56] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81476
[17:27:56] <CIA-46> kdepim4-runtime: update to 4.7.0
[17:28:18] <afb> yup, sounds like xcode alright
[17:29:09] <Tatsh> it's still free though
[17:29:11] <Tatsh> just 3.2.6
[17:29:26] <Tatsh> and honestly, a lot of people will probably continue using that because that goes down ios 2.0
[17:29:31] <Tatsh> down to*
[17:29:36] <Tatsh> and can still target 10.5
[17:29:36] <afb> sure, the definition discussion was more philosophical
[17:30:00] <Tatsh> apple seems to want us to forget about 10.5
[17:30:21] <afb> on linux, "free" means GPL. on mac, it means $0. on win, it means virus-scanned
[17:30:37] <Tatsh> on mac, free means BSD sir and $0
[17:30:39] <Tatsh> :P
[17:30:43] <Tatsh> or APSL
[17:31:06] <afb> just that there was some talk about reviving a darwin compiler toolchain sans xcode
[17:31:15] <Tatsh> CF is already released from lion :)
[17:31:40] <Tatsh> so, if someone is building a toolchain i'm seriously interested; especially if we end up getting ports of CF to linux that are usable sans xcode
[17:32:51] <afb> no idea what happened to CF-lite. or PureFoundation
[17:33:07] <Tatsh> now there's cocotron but it requires xcode
[17:33:10] <afb> startv
[17:33:15] <afb> starved to death, most likely
[17:33:43] <Tatsh> there's also an interesting project imo that is creating a version of cocoa for android NDK
[17:33:57] <Tatsh> when i decide to start working on android i'm going to look into it more; it seems many people are using it successfully
[17:34:41] <getxsick> Raim: wow, everytime when i do 'sudo port uninstall leaves; port echo leaves' i get something new there. i know why, however why it's not uninstalling recursively?
[17:34:43] <Tatsh> http://code.google.com/p/cocotron/
[17:34:58] <Tatsh> i bet a lot of this works with gcc but you need objective-c 2.0 support
[17:37:58] <CIA-46> afb at macports dot org * r81477 /branches/release_2_0/base/ (. src/port/port.tcl):
[17:37:58] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81477
[17:37:58] <CIA-46> merge r81475 from trunk:
[17:37:58] <CIA-46> add replaced_by to selectors
[17:38:17] <afb> stupid svn, stupid merge
[17:38:46] <snc> one day we'll move off svn
[17:38:47] <snc> one day
[17:39:35] <Raim> getxsick: you are right, recursive was missing. try this: sudo port uninstall --follow-dependencies leaves
[17:41:02] <afb> the main problem with "replaced_by" is that you need the old cruft lying around
[17:41:24] <afb> with "Obsoletes:", you only need to mention it once in the new stuff instead
[17:41:57] <snc> that relies on portindex to take up the tracking, rather than the portfiles, right?
[17:42:07] <getxsick> thanks
[17:42:44] <afb> I dunno, replaced_by seems to be overused anyway - for *-devel ports and whatnot
[17:43:38] <afb> these days it's all more like "people who installed that port also installed these:"
[17:43:58] <snc> i've not noticed that
[17:44:13] <afb> "your friends thought you might also be interested in:"
[17:44:49] <CIA-46> mk at macports dot org * r81478 /trunk/dports/kde/kdesdk4/ (Portfile files/ files/patch-catalogitem.diff):
[17:44:49] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81478
[17:44:49] <CIA-46> kdesdk4: update to 4.7.0
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[17:54:44] <Tatsh> they can't be seriously that fast at crawling
[17:55:31] <Tatsh> http://i.imgur.com/1hSXg.png
[17:57:15] <Raim> they are.
[17:57:43] <snc> impressive
[17:57:47] <snc> heh: hello world!
[17:58:35] <Raim> Tatsh: I have also googled for error messages from recent pastebins and exactly that pastebin entry turned up in the search results
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[18:05:35] <CIA-46> mk at macports dot org * r81479 /trunk/dports/kde/kdegames4/Portfile:
[18:05:36] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81479
[18:05:36] <CIA-46> kdegames4: unneeded port py26-twisted removed
[18:08:33] <afb> why does 2.0.0 still use the pesky old "dmg" format ?
[18:08:43] <afb> one of the perks of dropping tiger is getting rid of it
[18:08:57] <snc> afb what do you mean?
[18:09:10] <afb> one can use flat "pkg"
[18:09:48] <afb> (port pkg package.flat=true)
[18:09:52] <snc> does pkg allow you to compress it, as dmg allowed gz/bz?
[18:10:16] <afb> yeah, it allows those oldskool compressions
[18:10:23] <snc> then yea, good quesiton :-)
[18:10:26] <afb> but you can get much better results from .pkg.xz
[18:10:48] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r81480 /trunk/dports/kde/kdeutils4/Portfile:
[18:10:49] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81480
[18:10:49] <CIA-46> kdeutils4: add kde4-baseapps dependency
[18:10:51] <snc> likely
[18:11:33] <afb> of course, you'll need to unpack it first for that to work
[18:11:57] <snc> this is something we could add to the macports archives, for sure
[18:11:58] <afb> i.e. the Payload
[18:12:10] <snc> i have it set to tbz2 ? don't recall if xz is built in
[18:12:19] <snc> do you remember if that's a supported format for that phase?
[18:12:21] <afb> well, for the archives it would be more like .txz
[18:12:38] <afb> but this was for the packages or (1) package perhaps
[18:13:02] <snc> true; i'm thinking it should be across all phases though, dmg and archive
[18:13:05] <afb> i.e. the only package built is for the "MacPorts" port
[18:13:40] <afb> I dunno, we argue about it and then it's like "if Apple meant for you to use that, they would have included it"
[18:14:02] <afb> whether it's xz or sha256, or a decent package manager
[18:14:19] <snc> haha
[18:14:24] <snc> that's very true
[18:14:29] <afb> and then we go back to gzip and md5 and Installer.app
[18:14:51] <Tatsh> use xar format :P
[18:15:05] <afb> Tatsh: guess what format the "flat" packages are in
[18:15:08] <snc> once we have the build farm going full tilt it won't be an issue to include other packages to get work done
[18:15:13] <Tatsh> maybe i should get svn macports
[18:15:17] <CIA-46> jeremyhu at macports dot org * r81481 /trunk/dports/x11/xinit/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[18:15:17] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81481
[18:15:17] <CIA-46> xinit: Build fix for Tiger, #30483
[18:15:17] <Tatsh> then maybe i can have kde :)
[18:15:23] <snc> haha
[18:15:28] <snc> oh KDE ?
[18:15:41] <snc> "i bought a Mac and I run KDE on it" keeps running through my mind
[18:15:42] <Tatsh> i'm just hoping Kate gets fixed
[18:15:52] <Tatsh> i wish KDE would separate kate away from KDE
[18:16:00] <Tatsh> and just have a really good editor without requiring the whole KDE libs
[18:16:10] <Tatsh> that's all i really want
[18:16:24] <afb> port it ! :-)
[18:16:26] <Tatsh> right now though the file browser in Kate (4.5 mac) is broken; so kate is almost useless
[18:16:43] <Tatsh> even on windows KDE 4.5.4 kate's works
[18:16:50] <afb> rewrite in objective-c++
[18:16:58] <afb> the language mongrel
[18:16:58] <Tatsh> nah
[18:17:06] <Tatsh> i could just keep using textmate
[18:17:10] <Tatsh> which is almost like kate
[18:17:14] <Tatsh> except not free
[18:18:27] <afb> the stupid thing about the (flat) pkg format is that I don't know how to make it display stuff
[18:18:46] <snc> as in dialogs?
[18:18:47] <afb> so you have to make it into one of those "distribution" thingamajigs, which makes even dmg look good
[18:19:01] <snc> you mean an mpkg?
[18:19:37] <Tatsh> afb, but what about tiger
[18:19:39] <afb> yes dialogs as in ReadMe, License, etc. no, not as in mpkg but as in "10.5 or later
[18:19:40] <afb>  format" vs "10.3 format"
[18:19:40] <snc> the way i'd make use of ports with variants as pkgs is using mpkg: if you want features enabled/disabled, it actually switches which version of the whole port is installed
[18:19:49] <Tatsh> tiger is old and all but isn't it going to remain supported?
[18:20:06] <snc> oh, their little javascript interpretation stuff, an XML file, can have those requirements when tehy pick the HD to install on
[18:20:10] <afb> Tatsh: I think we started off with "now that tiger died"
[18:20:19] <Tatsh> how's tiger dead?
[18:20:22] <snc> I KNIFED IT
[18:20:23] <Tatsh> apple?
[18:20:47] <afb> oh, apple killed it long ago. just that it got bumped off the "kitten-1" rule
[18:21:02] <Raim> Tatsh: MacPorts officially supports the latest two releases of Mac OS X, at the moment that's Snow Leopard and Lion
[18:21:26] <afb> there's some kind of gray zone below that, where Tiger used to lurk
[18:21:27] <Tatsh> somehow i closed ssh but macports kept going
[18:21:29] <afb> and Leopard now does
[18:21:31] <Raim> Tatsh: MacPorts might still work on Tiger and Leopard, but nobody is obliged to fix things on these versions
[18:21:34] <Tatsh> had to killall -9 gnumake
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[18:22:30] <Tatsh> need more of this sort of collaboration
[18:23:05] <afb> dropping Leo isn't that much of a win
[18:23:07] <Tatsh> the iphone jailbreak community could use it; cydia exists but i feel the community is not so much together as the open source community especially since cydia allows non-open source apps
[18:24:30] <Tatsh> i don't need a GUI to be open source; but i want the toolkit to be :); the compromise with apple is that they give really decent documentation and release a lot except Cocoa
[18:29:26] <afb> not even sure what the main difference between the SL and Lion pkg are
[18:29:47] <afb> or if one could have gotten by with just one installation across both
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[18:34:58] <Tatsh> i'm wondering if qt is going to add more things about this 'full-screen' mode into Qt
[18:35:02] <Tatsh> rather nokia*
[18:35:16] <Tatsh> full-screen mode is something microsoft is also putting into windows as a 'new feature'
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[18:49:05] <CIA-46> jeremyhu at macports dot org * r81482 /trunk/dports/x11/mesa/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[18:49:05] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81482
[18:49:05] <CIA-46> mesa: Detect ppc endianness, #30492
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[19:15:22] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r81483 /trunk/dports/kde/libkdeedu/ (. Portfile):
[19:15:22] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81483
[19:15:22] <CIA-46> libkdeedu: create 4.7.0 from kdeedu4
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[19:23:06] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r81484 /trunk/dports/kde/blinken/:
[19:23:06] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81484
[19:23:07] <CIA-46> blinken: create 4.7.0
[19:24:18] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r81485 /trunk/dports/kde/blinken/Portfile:
[19:24:18] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81485
[19:24:18] <CIA-46> blinken: create 4.7.0
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[19:31:17] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r81486 /trunk/dports/kde/cantor/ (. Portfile):
[19:31:17] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81486
[19:31:17] <CIA-46> cantor: create 4.7.0
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[19:36:24] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r81487 /trunk/dports/kde/kalgebra/ (. Portfile):
[19:36:24] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81487
[19:36:24] <CIA-46> kalgebra: create 4.7.0
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[20:06:32] <CIA-46> l2g at macports dot org * r81488 /trunk/dports/perl/p5-zeromq/Portfile:
[20:06:32] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81488
[20:06:32] <CIA-46> p5-zeromq: new version 0.16
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[21:19:45] <Alien__> I am having problems building t1lib. Log here http://pastebin.com/bn3XM5QG   Can anyone help me?
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[21:46:44] <jonathanj> i don't suppose anyone here can help me getting cassandra (installed from macports) to run?
[21:47:02] <jonathanj> attempting to run it i get: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/cassandra/thrift/CassandraDaemon
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[22:23:59] <jonathanj> it seems like the port for cassandra is missing the thrift jar (or a java thrift port)
[22:25:30] <jonathanj> if i copy apache-cassandra-thrift-0.8.2.jar from the cassandra binary distribution (from apache.org) to /opt/local/share/java/cassandra/lib then cassandra appears to start fine
[22:26:57] <jonathanj> hrm, looks like there is a +java variant for thrift
[22:27:09] <jonathanj> maybe i need that (although then why does cassandra not depend on that?)
[22:29:43] <Tatsh> i researched all day so far
[22:30:07] <Tatsh> no way to easily cross-compile os x binaries on gentoo; not without a lot of testing
[22:30:20] <Tatsh> so i'll just have to wait for my system to finish compiling
[22:35:15] <jonathanj> meh, no that didn't work either
[22:37:00] <jonathanj> libthrift.jar is something different to what cassandra wants
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[22:44:05] <CIA-46> macsforever2000 at macports dot org * r81489 /trunk/dports/sysutils/bacula/Portfile:
[22:44:05] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81489
[22:44:05] <CIA-46> bacula: prevent ccache from interfering with build. (#30412)
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