macports IRC logs [July 26

[00:01:08] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81117 /trunk/dports/devel/gmp/Portfile:
[00:01:08] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81117
[00:01:08] <CIA-46> gmp: probably fix build with Xcode 4.0.x (#30294)
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[00:03:52] <mf2k_mp> jmr_mp: thanks!
[00:04:06] <jmr_mp> jberry: :-O
[00:04:12] <jmr_mp> mf2k_mp: np
[00:04:46] <CIA-46> macsforever2000 at macports dot org * r81118 /trunk/dports/python/py26-pysparse/Portfile:
[00:04:46] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81118
[00:04:46] <CIA-46> py26-pysparse: Fix license.
[00:05:05] <mf2k_mp> i think all my ports have the license set now.
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[00:28:34] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81119 /trunk/base/ (configure configure.ac src/port1.0/portutil.tcl):
[00:28:34] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81119
[00:28:34] <CIA-46> update supported OS and Xcode versions
[00:31:01] <CIA-46> kimuraw at macports dot org * r81120 /trunk/dports/lang/ruby19/Portfile:
[00:31:01] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81120
[00:31:01] <CIA-46> lang/ruby19: ruby-1.9.x built with clang or llvm-gcc does not work.
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[00:55:26] <CIA-46> pixilla at macports dot org * r81121 /trunk/dports/devel/soprano/ (Portfile files/ files/patch-raptor2.h.diff):
[00:55:27] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81121
[00:55:27] <CIA-46> www/soprano: Assumed maintainership (open). Add raptor2.h patch. Revbump. Fixes #30363.
[00:56:34] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81122 /users/dports/ports/ (83 files in 83 dirs):
[00:56:34] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81122
[00:56:34] <CIA-46> texlive-*: split distfile archives into three files. $distfile-run
[00:56:34] <CIA-46> contains required files and metadata; $distfile-doc and -src contain
[00:56:34] <CIA-46> files that are only needed if the respective variant is
[00:56:35] <CIA-46> selected.
[00:56:35] <CIA-46> This saves download time if +doc or +src variants aren't selected.
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[01:25:18] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81123 /trunk/doc-new/guide/xml/installing.xml:
[01:25:18] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81123
[01:25:18] <CIA-46> guide: update xcode info
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[01:32:48] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81124 /trunk/www/install.php:
[01:32:48] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81124
[01:32:48] <CIA-46> www: update Xcode/X11 info
[01:42:22] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81125 /trunk/dports/sysutils/sleepwatcher/Portfile:
[01:42:22] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81125
[01:42:22] <CIA-46> sleepwatcher: update to 2.1.2 (adds Lion support)
[01:43:08] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81126 /trunk/dports/audio/faust/ (Portfile files/patch-prefix.diff):
[01:43:08] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81126
[01:43:08] <CIA-46> faust: update to 0.9.43; support build_arch; add universal variant
[01:43:45] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81127 /trunk/dports/www/phpmyadmin/Portfile:
[01:43:45] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81127
[01:43:45] <CIA-46> phpmyadmin: update to 3.4.3.2
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[01:54:04] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81128 /trunk/dports/net/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[01:54:04] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81128
[01:54:04] <CIA-46> Add license (#30177)
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[02:07:23] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81129 /trunk/dports/devel/xmlrpc-c/Portfile:
[02:07:23] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81129
[02:07:23] <CIA-46> xmlrpc-c: whitespace changes / reformatting only
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[02:08:24] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81130 /trunk/dports/devel/xmlrpc-c/Portfile:
[02:08:24] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81130
[02:08:24] <CIA-46> xmlrpc-c: update master_sites to avoid redirects
[02:09:18] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81131 /trunk/dports/python/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[02:09:18] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81131
[02:09:18] <CIA-46> py25-modulegraph, py25-modulegraph, py27-modulegraph: update to 0.9.1
[02:10:23] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81132 /trunk/dports/devel/xmlrpc-c/Portfile:
[02:10:24] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81132
[02:10:24] <CIA-46> xmlrpc-c: fix livecheck
[02:14:19] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81133 /trunk/dports/python/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[02:14:19] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81133
[02:14:19] <CIA-46> py25-macholib, py26-macholib, py27-macholib: update to 1.4.2
[02:19:16] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81134 /trunk/dports/python/ (py26-jinja2/Portfile py27-jinja2/Portfile):
[02:19:16] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81134
[02:19:16] <CIA-46> py26-jinja2, py27-jinja2: update to 2.6
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[02:29:42] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81135 /trunk/dports/textproc/docbook-xsl-ns/ (. Portfile):
[02:29:42] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81135
[02:29:42] <CIA-46> New port: docbook-xsl-ns, namespaced DocBook XSL stylesheets (#25910)
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[03:01:48] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81136 /trunk/dports/devel/xmlrpc-c/Portfile:
[03:01:48] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81136
[03:01:48] <CIA-46> xmlrpc-c: update to 1.16.36; support build_arch; add universal variant
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[03:06:38] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81137 /trunk/dports/net/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[03:06:38] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81137
[03:06:38] <CIA-46> Add modeline, adjust whitespace / formatting; see #30177
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[03:07:40] <mpbot> snc is Jeremy and maintainer of gambit-c, kde-l10n-da, kde-l10n-km, and mgzip (of 169 total) and is in Boston; local time is Mon 21:07 EDT
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[03:33:07] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81138 /trunk/dports/net/rtorrent/Portfile:
[03:33:07] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81138
[03:33:07] <CIA-46> rtorrent: no longer disable universal in xmlrpc variant because xmlrpc-c now has a universal variant
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[03:35:41] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81139 /trunk/dports/net/ (libtorrent/Portfile rtorrent/Portfile):
[03:35:41] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81139
[03:35:41] <CIA-46> rtorrent: update to 0.8.9
[03:35:41] <CIA-46> libtorrent: update to 0.12.9 and use an unversioned docdir
[03:35:41] <CIA-46> See #30177
[03:37:14] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81140 /trunk/dports/net/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[03:37:15] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81140
[03:37:15] <CIA-46> Indicate conflicts between -devel and non-devel ports
[03:38:02] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81141 /trunk/dports/net/ (libtorrent-devel/Portfile rtorrent-devel/Portfile):
[03:38:02] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81141
[03:38:02] <CIA-46> Share dist_subdir with non-devel ports
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[03:46:58] <crtxc> Hi.  I finished removing MacPorts and proceeded clean install.  I am now installing elinks and I got this error: Error: Target org.macports.activate returned: can't read "startpwd": no such variable.  Google search returned no info.
[03:47:16] <crtxc> ^with a clean install
[03:48:21] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81142 /users/dports/ports/fuse/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[03:48:21] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81142
[03:48:21] <CIA-46> fuse4x*: bump version to 0.8.8 and use the release tarball instead of
[03:48:21] <CIA-46> an unstable git branch.
[03:49:09] <jmr_mp> crtxc: looks like that would mean calling pwd failed
[03:50:43] <crtxc> jmr_mp: hm.  Ok.  hm.  It works in terminal.  Any idea why it would fail during the elinks build?
[03:50:52] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81143 /trunk/dports/mail/procmail/Portfile:
[03:50:52] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81143
[03:50:52] <CIA-46> procmail: add modeline; whitespace and formatting changes
[03:51:00] <jmr_mp> crtxc: not really
[03:51:43] <crtxc> ok ty. :)
[03:52:02] <jmr_mp> I mean obviously it would have to be due to an inability to read or execute the working directory or one of its parent dirs
[03:53:24] <crtxc> so this may be a path variable.  Hm.  I have a sym link in root pointing to opt.  That is /opt > /directory/where/opt/local/macportsIs.  Would this perhaps cause it?
[03:54:32] <jmr_mp> maybe, what's your actual prefix set to?
[03:54:37] <crtxc> Also not that my terminal app path setting in bashrc is not /opt, but rather Volumes/opt/.
[03:54:58] <jmr_mp> PATH is irrelevant, if that's what you mean by "terminal app path"
[03:55:14] <crtxc> I left it default.  I never set --prefix on the Macports install.
[03:55:24] <crtxc> Ok PATH is irrelevent.
[03:55:27] <jmr_mp> that may be a problem then
[03:55:41] <crtxc> please elaborate?
[03:56:09] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81144 /trunk/dports/mail/procmail/Portfile:
[03:56:10] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81144
[03:56:10] <CIA-46> procmail: support build_arch; fix universal variant
[03:56:59] <crtxc> If I have a non default install of Macports, prefix must be set to the non default location and the soft link in root set post install?
[03:57:00] <jmr_mp> see http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-users/2011-July/024715.html and replies
[03:57:20] <crtxc> looking now
[03:57:34] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81145 /trunk/dports/mail/procmail/Portfile:
[03:57:34] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81145
[03:57:34] <CIA-46> procmail: add more checksum types
[04:01:32] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r81146 /trunk/base/src/registry2.0/portimage.tcl:
[04:01:32] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81146
[04:01:32] <CIA-46> move setting of startpwd outside the try block in extract_archive_to_tmpdir, so it will fail with its own error message instead of the finally block failing
[04:04:33] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81147 /users/dports/ports/fuse/fuse4x-kext/Portfile:
[04:04:33] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81147
[04:04:33] <CIA-46> fuse4x-kext: whitespace; remove commented-out line
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[04:12:42] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81148 /users/dports/ports/fuse/fuse4x/Portfile:
[04:12:42] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81148
[04:12:42] <CIA-46> fuse4x: miscellaneous nits
[04:12:42] <CIA-46> * remove debug cflags
[04:12:42] <CIA-46> * don't pass -v to autoreconf
[04:12:43] <CIA-46> * remove use_configure (yes is the default)
[04:12:43] <CIA-46> * fuse4x-kext is a runtime dependency only
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[04:20:59] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81149 /trunk/dports/fuse/ (9 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[04:21:00] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81149
[04:21:00] <CIA-46> fuse4x, fuse4x-kext, fuse4x-framework: new ports
[04:21:00] <CIA-46> Fuse4X is a fork of MacFUSE (which has been abandoned). Among other
[04:21:00] <CIA-46> changes, it provides support for 64-bit kernels and includes a newer
[04:21:00] <CIA-46> version of the fuse library.
[04:21:00] <CIA-46> * fuse4x contains the user-space library that filesystems link against
[04:23:50] <crtxc> jmr_mp: ty very much for that link, very informative.  But I am a little distressed.  After reading the email, I thought.  How did he do that?  I am sorry to irritate by asking but how did you find that relevent email so quickly?  I can't see any search on http://lists.macosforge.org.
[04:24:06] <jmr_mp> I subscribe to the list
[04:24:15] <crtxc> Oh ok.
[04:24:51] <crtxc> I tried to duplicate what you did.  I search on google for 10 minutes and never came to the email you found.
[04:24:54] <crtxc> :p
[04:25:05] <jmr_mp> google works though, e.g. "<terms> site:http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-users/"
[04:25:43] <crtxc> oh I was searching with "site:http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail"
[04:25:49] <crtxc> dummy
[04:25:53] <crtxc> :0
[04:25:56] <crtxc> :)
[04:26:09] <jmr_mp> hm, that would kind of work but not as well
[04:30:06] <crtxc> :), hey ty for your time.  I am going to sign off as I am uncomfortable having my computer using too many resources with too many running apps while I am building, but before I go I had a thought.  That person on the mail list is a Ph.d, working in the department Biochemistry & Molecular Biophysics.  Computer knowledge, biophysics, biochemistry.  Leave some brains for me will ya :)
[04:31:35] <crtxc> But then I thought that in a possition like that one must have a lot of friends willing to help ;)
[04:31:44] <crtxc> ^position
[04:32:08] <crtxc> thanks again
[04:32:16] <crtxc> later
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[04:36:09] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81150 /trunk/dports/fuse/sshfs/ (Portfile files/ files/patch-fuse4x-compat.diff):
[04:36:09] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81150
[04:36:09] <CIA-46> sshfs: fuse4x compatibility
[04:36:09] <CIA-46> * rewrite macfuse dependency to allow fuse4x to satisfy it
[04:36:09] <CIA-46> * add patch that uses __APPLE__ instead of (__FreeBSD__ >= 10) to
[04:36:09] <CIA-46> test whether we're on a Mac, and adds a semaphore emulation layer
[04:36:10] <CIA-46> if we're using Fuse4X (MacFUSE provides one of its own)
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[05:54:54] <fidencio> howdy!
[05:55:02] <fidencio> is there someone here?
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[06:04:40] <fidencio> hello rampr
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[06:10:42] <fidencio> @all: many thanks for gmp fix :-) now, it works here!
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[06:46:22] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81151 /trunk/dports/fuse/ (7 files in 7 dirs):
[06:46:22] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81151
[06:46:22] <CIA-46> various fuse filesystems: change macfuse dependency to one that can be
[06:46:22] <CIA-46> satisfied by fuse4x also; see #30383
[06:52:35] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81152 /trunk/dports/fuse/gmailfs/Portfile:
[06:52:35] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81152
[06:52:35] <CIA-46> gmailfs: remove direct dependency on macfuse since this port only uses
[06:52:35] <CIA-46> the Python bindings directly and fuse-bindings-python25 also pulls in
[06:52:35] <CIA-46> the correct dependency; this allows it to be used with fuse4x (see #30383)
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[07:10:46] <CIA-46> dports at macports dot org * r81153 /trunk/dports/security/md5deep/Portfile:
[07:10:46] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81153
[07:10:46] <CIA-46> md5deep: maintainer update to v3.9.2 (#30381)
[07:13:02] <CIA-46> jeremyhu at macports dot org * r81154 /trunk/dports/x11/mesa/Portfile:
[07:13:03] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81154
[07:13:03] <CIA-46> mesa: Bump to 7.11-rc3
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[07:47:15] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81155 /trunk/dports/textproc/libiconv/Portfile:
[07:47:15] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81155
[07:47:15] <CIA-46> libiconv: use system versions of awk, grep, and sed, even if MacPorts versions are installed; see #30308
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[07:57:16] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81156 /trunk/dports/net/libtorrent-devel/Portfile:
[07:57:16] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81156
[07:57:16] <CIA-46> libtorrent-devel: use an unversioned docdir
[07:59:47] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81157 /trunk/dports/tex/detex/Portfile:
[07:59:47] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81157
[07:59:47] <CIA-46> detex: use an unversioned docdir
[08:01:14] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81158 /trunk/dports/devel/gettext/Portfile:
[08:01:14] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81158
[08:01:14] <CIA-46> gettext: use system versions of awk, grep, and sed, even if MacPorts versions are installed; see #30308
[08:17:49] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81159 /trunk/dports/multimedia/ming/Portfile:
[08:17:49] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81159
[08:17:49] <CIA-46> ming: use unversioned docdir
[08:22:05] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81160 /trunk/dports/php/php5-gearman/Portfile:
[08:22:05] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81160
[08:22:05] <CIA-46> php5-gearman: update to 0.8.0
[08:23:54] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81161 /trunk/dports/php/php5-oauth/Portfile:
[08:23:54] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81161
[08:23:54] <CIA-46> php5-oauth: update to 1.2.2
[08:24:37] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81162 /trunk/dports/php/php5-unit/Portfile:
[08:24:37] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81162
[08:24:37] <CIA-46> php5-unit: update to 3.5.14
[08:28:37] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81163 /trunk/dports/php/php5-unit-mock-objects/Portfile:
[08:28:37] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81163
[08:28:37] <CIA-46> php5-unit-mock-objects: update to 1.0.9
[08:29:38] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81164 /trunk/dports/php/php5-unit-selenium/Portfile:
[08:29:38] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81164
[08:29:38] <CIA-46> php5-unit-selenium: update to 1.0.3
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[10:38:44] <CIA-46> raimue at macports dot org * r81165 /trunk/dports/fuse/gmailfs/:
[10:38:44] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81165
[10:38:44] <CIA-46> fuse/gmailfs:
[10:38:44] <CIA-46> Remove port as it no longer works with the current gmail interface and is no longer maintained upstream.
[10:38:44] <CIA-46> An alternative exists at http://sr71.net/projects/gmailfs/ but I have currently no interest in porting this.
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[10:56:58] <CIA-46> raimue at macports dot org * r81166 /trunk/dports/textproc/pdfgrep/ (. Portfile):
[10:56:59] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81166
[10:56:59] <CIA-46> textproc/pdfgrep:
[10:56:59] <CIA-46> New port
[10:59:50] <CIA-46> raimue at macports dot org * r81167 /trunk/dports/textproc/pdfgrep/Portfile:
[10:59:50] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81167
[10:59:50] <CIA-46> textproc/pdfgrep:
[10:59:50] <CIA-46> Add livecheck
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[11:04:20] <CIA-46> afb at macports dot org * r81168 /trunk/dports/lang/perl5.8/ (Portfile files/patch-hints_darwin.sh-usenm.diff):
[11:04:20] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81168
[11:04:20] <CIA-46> perl5.8: incorporate nm fix from perl5.12, see r76831
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[11:09:38] <CIA-46> afb at macports dot org * r81169 /trunk/dports/sysutils/rpm/ (Portfile files/patch-db-mutex-mut_pthread.c):
[11:09:38] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81169
[11:09:38] <CIA-46> fix db build error on lion (#30384), maintainer, livecheck
[11:10:20] <afb> another kitten, another bugfest
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[11:16:20] <earlgray> Hello. Build of gmp fails with log:  http://paste.org/pastebin/view/36533 . Could somebody suggest what is wrong?
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[11:21:03] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81170 /trunk/dports/php/php5-file-iterator/Portfile:
[11:21:03] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81170
[11:21:03] <CIA-46> php5-file-iterator: fix livecheck
[11:21:38] <Raim> earlgray: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/30294
[11:22:43] <afb> Error: Target org.macports.activate returned: No 'xz' was found on this system!
[11:22:50] <afb> nice little "bug" there
[11:24:12] <jonathanj> :/
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[11:26:10] <afb> apparently /usr/local/bin isn't good enough for  it
[11:26:26] <afb> which kinda makes it a problem, being self-referring and all
[11:27:04] <afb> ironic how the ports were updated and all, without fixing the "liblzma" hack
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[11:36:00] <jonathanj> Xcode is not installed, or was installed with UNIX Development (10.5+) or Command Line Support (10.4) deselected.
[11:36:33] <jonathanj> since i didn't get the option of installing UNIX Development when installing it from the app store, what do i do?
[11:36:36] <afb> a.k.a. "where in the world is /usr/bin/cc"
[11:37:30] <afb> newer MP should be able to find /Developer
[11:37:50] <jonathanj> this is the 2.0.0 pkg (in a dmg) installer
[11:38:44] <afb> you do have a /Developer/usr/bin/gcc, right ?
[11:38:55] <jonathanj> hrm, i just found "Xcode Installer.app"
[11:39:07] <afb> ah. it's a two-step installation process now
[11:39:17] <jonathanj> i guess i thought clicking "Install this app" from the App Store would install it
[11:39:26] <afb> technically it did
[11:39:33] <jonathanj> it didn't
[11:39:36] <jonathanj> it installed the installer
[11:39:36] <Raim> technically it did install the installer
[11:39:38] <afb> just that the "app" is the installer :-)
[11:39:50] <afb> kinda like installing Lion
[11:39:51] <jonathanj> and i clicked "Install this app" from the "Xcode" page not the "Xcode Installer" page! :)
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[11:40:11] <afb> also, that Xcode.app does come with a few gigs of other cruft
[11:40:25] <jonathanj> yeah, it would have been nice to shave some of that junk off
[11:40:34] <afb> but maybe that would all fit under "dependencies" in some sense
[11:41:01] <afb> including iOS SDK everywhere is a nice marketing stunt
[11:41:52] <afb> there... upgraded LZMA to real citizens
[11:41:56] <afb> checking for bzip2... /usr/bin/bzip2
[11:41:56] <afb> checking for lzma... /usr/local/bin/lzma
[11:41:56] <afb> checking for xz... /usr/local/bin/xz
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[11:45:12] <jonathanj> this is a rather lengthy process
[11:45:46] <afb> yeah, for non-developers it's agony
[11:45:50] <jonathanj> download 3GB of installer, install 3GB of data, install macports, begin the soul-destroying process of compiling ports
[11:46:54] <afb> only 3G installed ? thought it had slightly less poor compression, even if not good
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[11:47:14] <jonathanj> well i don't know how big it'll be
[11:47:29] <jonathanj> it's still installing, it takes forever to install
[11:47:54] <afb> probably the double
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[11:49:27] <afb> but yeah, the need for Developer Tools is bug #2
[11:49:39] <jonathanj> bug?
[11:49:57] <afb> if it makes the skin itch, it's a bug
[11:49:58] <jonathanj> sounds like a hard bug to fix without providing binary packages
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[11:55:13] <jmr_mp> even then, there's conflicting licenses
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[12:25:56] <Guest22999> hello, can i build 64 bit using 32 bit with gcc4.6.1?
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[12:27:38] <Guest22999> gcc 4.6 works for me only in 32 bit the same problem i got from installing myself just using gnu files
[12:28:35] <Guest22999> there's something not working in general for gcc 4.6 on mac
[12:30:02] <Guest22999> don't know how gcc 4.6.2 works
[12:35:10] <TheInfinity> hach.
[12:35:26] <TheInfinity> thanks @ sshfs + fuse4x! :)
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[12:44:00] <Guest22999> let me try to ask again (more clear i hope): can i build 64 bit with gcc46 -i386 having already the 64-bit libs?
[12:44:35] <afb> it should be possible to cross-compile, but there's no automatic support for it
[12:45:07] <afb> and it does require that all the host binaries are i386 (to run), rather than x86_64
[12:45:35] <afb> the usual hackaround is building everything +universal, that way it'd run on both
[12:46:00] <Guest22999> thanks i was thinking about that
[12:46:23] <afb> whatever you want to use gcc 4.6 for
[12:51:59] <CIA-46> afb at macports dot org * r81171 /trunk/base/ (configure configure.ac src/port1.0/port_autoconf.tcl.in):
[12:51:59] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81171
[12:51:59] <CIA-46> add lzma_path and xz_path to configure
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[12:53:01] <TheInfinity> hmm. btw - why is kerberos5 and e2fsprogs still a conflict?
[12:54:37] <jonathanj> how does stuff in trunk get to the stuff i use from the command line?
[12:54:59] <afb> jonathanj: base stuff ? or ports stuff ?
[12:55:38] <jonathanj> uhm, i'm not sure what the difference is. in this particular case i am interested in the xz stuff
[12:55:41] <afb> for base, through "releases". for ports, through "sync"
[12:55:55] <jonathanj> afb: what is "base"? like the port binary itself?
[12:57:05] <afb> jonathanj: yup (and support files)
[12:57:37] <afb> if you're referring to r81171, it only makes a difference if you have /usr/local/bin/xz and use .txz packages
[12:57:56] <jonathanj> afb: so those xz changes you just committed, are those in base or ports
[12:58:12] <afb> base, as per the /trunk/base/ path
[12:58:39] <jonathanj> so those changes weren't to the xz port?
[12:58:53] <afb> the other is /trunk/dports, for historical reasons
[12:59:32] <afb> nope, no changes to the "xz" port - even though it should have one
[13:00:05] <afb> but seemed like it was busy with petty changes like bz2 and sha1
[13:00:17] <afb> (both obsolete)
[13:00:29] <jonathanj> why are they obsolete?
[13:00:34] <afb> xz and sha256
[13:00:45] <jonathanj> oh right
[13:01:15] <afb> but I suppose it's slightly "better" than gz and md5
[13:01:31] <afb> for some definition of the word, not including faster
[13:02:22] <CIA-46> ciserlohn at macports dot org * r81172 /trunk/dports/devel/npm/Portfile:
[13:02:22] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81172
[13:02:22] <CIA-46> npm: update to version 1.0.22
[13:03:00] <CIA-46> stromnov at macports dot org * r81173 /trunk/dports/python/py27-redis/Portfile:
[13:03:00] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81173
[13:03:00] <CIA-46> py27-redis: update to version 2.4.9
[13:03:17] <afb> jonathanj: anyway, if there was a change to the xz port the way to get it would be "port sync" (or selfupdate, for overkill)
[13:04:13] <afb> the reason it was split into xz and liblzma was because there was horrible sover confusion with the 4.999.x to 5.0 upgrade
[13:04:48] <CIA-46> stromnov at macports dot org * r81174 /trunk/dports/python/py27-kombu/Portfile:
[13:04:48] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81174
[13:04:48] <CIA-46> py27-kombu: update to version 1.2.0
[13:05:03] <afb> but I don't think there's any clear policy on linking in MacPorts anyway
[13:05:15] <afb> there's static libraries all over the place, for some reason nobody knows
[13:08:15] <jonathanj> :/
[13:08:32] <jonathanj> i'm probably opening myself up here, but how does macports differ from fink?
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[13:08:47] <afb> "four letters" ?
[13:14:33] <afb> or "not much", except for different project, different language, different packaging
[13:31:28] <jonathanj> why have two projects then?
[13:32:04] <jonathanj> i guess different ideologies etc, although it seems like things would be better for everyone if there were more contributors on a single project
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[13:42:02] <afb> jonathanj: you'd think so, but on the other hand it's just a handful rather than the dozens of "distros" on linux...
[13:42:51] <jonathanj> afb: that just dilutes the disappointment
[13:43:45] <jonathanj> i personally prefer the idea of using apt and stuff thank fink attempts to employ over the "ports" approach that macports uses
[13:43:59] <jonathanj> although i think macports has a much better execution of the style it chooses than fink does
[13:44:00] <afb> yes, fink has better packages.
[13:44:12] <afb> on the other hand, none of the projects provides binaries anyway
[13:44:31] <jonathanj> ideally they could provide binaries, ala Debian
[13:44:40] <jonathanj> but i guess that requires a lot of hardware
[13:44:51] <afb> oh, they do. just only for the "stable" branch (aka "ancient")
[13:45:15] <afb> macports also provides binaries, just only for one port
[13:45:24] <jonathanj> well i tried to get fink working on 10.7 at the same time as i was getting macports going again and i just gave up
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[13:46:55] <CIA-46> afb at macports dot org * r81175 /branches/release_2_0/base/ (. configure configure.ac src/port1.0/port_autoconf.tcl.in):
[13:46:55] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81175
[13:46:55] <CIA-46> merge r81171 from trunk:
[13:46:55] <CIA-46> add lzma_path and xz_path
[13:47:47] <jonathanj> afb: which port would that be?
[13:47:49] <afb> yeah, actually I gave up on both (and brew as well)
[13:48:01] <afb> and had to make my own binaries, but that's life
[13:48:13] <jonathanj> afb: both?
[13:48:19] <jonathanj> fink and macports?
[13:48:21] <afb> jonathanj: no port, just backported from trunk to 2.0.1
[13:48:26] <afb> yup
[13:48:34] <jonathanj> and here you are, contributing code :)
[13:48:39] <afb> and here I am
[13:48:55] <jonathanj> why did you give up? what was your alternative?
[13:49:07] <afb> I just wanted to use PyGTK for a project
[13:49:21] <afb> apparently that's too much to ask
[13:49:35] <jmr_mp> at least pip + virtualenv works well for that
[13:50:19] <afb> at least without installing X11 and Xcode
[13:51:11] <jonathanj> i find macports (even though the setup cost is painful) far easier for things like bzr, git, etc than trying to manually manage software
[13:51:24] <afb> both port and fink did work just fine, with that little issue
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[13:56:19] <afb> jonathanj: the alternative was using BFI and Installer.app
[13:56:52] <jonathanj> i'v never heard of those things
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[13:58:03] <afb> http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/B/BFI.html
[13:58:22] <afb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Installer_(Mac_OS_X)
[13:58:54] <jonathanj> haha, didn't expect BFI
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[13:59:44] <jonathanj> oh, that Installer.app
[13:59:56] <afb> as in "the venerable"
[14:00:02] <afb> the one without uninstall
[14:00:24] <jonathanj> sometimes i dream that i can get an environment like debian or ubuntu on OS X
[14:00:37] <afb> nightmares?
[14:00:45] <jonathanj> "mactitude install package" "mactitude reconfigure other_package"
[14:01:07] <afb> or you could just run Ubuntu
[14:01:20] <jonathanj> Ubuntu is, for the most part, shit
[14:01:26] <afb> don't even have to dual-boot these days
[14:01:31] <jonathanj> i run debian on all my headless machines
[14:01:35] <jonathanj> afb: what, run it in a VM?
[14:01:44] <afb> yup
[14:01:59] <jonathanj> yeah, although then i don't get the benefit of mac apps like macvim
[14:02:10] <jonathanj> i have to use vim-gnome, which is horrible
[14:02:34] <jonathanj> i guess the moral of this story is that computers suck
[14:02:46] <afb> there's a song about that.
[14:02:52] <jonathanj> life will be easier in the future where computers run us instead of the other way around
[14:03:09] <jonathanj> afb: what, In The Year 2525?
[14:03:39] <afb> http://www.deadtroll.com/video/ossuckscable.html
[14:04:59] <afb> actually I think it's pretty good. at least before the tablet got jammed into the desktop
[14:05:55] <afb> but that'll probably sort itself out too, like for the next year or so. but both 10.6 and 11.04 are nice
[14:09:45] <afb> funny how that happens, meant to write 10.04 LTS actually. oh well
[14:10:06] <afb> still juggling with adopting to the new "archive" scheme of macports
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[14:14:04] <jonathanj> what's that?
[14:14:09] <jonathanj> the archive scheme, i mean
[14:14:26] <afb> well, now it will create an archive/package as part of "install"
[14:14:41] <afb> which is somewhat different to how it used to work before
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[14:15:06] <jmr_mp> someday archivefetch might even do something
[14:15:36] <afb> like the autoupgrade feature, it takes some getting used to
[14:16:30] <jmr_mp> build.macports.org all but works actually
[14:16:54] <jonathanj> what is an archive in this context? a built port?
[14:17:05] <afb> jmr_mp: cool!
[14:17:22] <afb> an archive is a tarball of the destroot, so yeah
[14:17:36] <afb> it even includes some basic metadata,
[14:17:45] <afb> so you could pretend it's a package if you want
[14:17:49] <jmr_mp> which is promptly ignored ;)
[14:18:05] <afb> but the term "package" was reserved for the external formats
[14:18:05] <jmr_mp> mostly
[14:18:15] <jmr_mp> we do use the contents list now
[14:18:18] <afb> like pkg/rpm/deb etc
[14:18:56] <afb> I still think it might have been a bad idea to fix those (pkg/rpm/deb)
[14:19:05] <afb> it sorta gives the impression that using them works and is a good idea
[14:19:07] <jonathanj> okay so maybe one day i won't have to compile boost myself?
[14:19:40] <jmr_mp> you already don't have to if you can sucker someone else into doing it for you and sending you the archive
[14:20:15] <afb> where "already" refers to the last decade or so
[14:20:35] <afb> I think it might even work to have them host it ?
[14:20:59] <jmr_mp> that's more recent, but yes
[14:21:19] <jmr_mp> archive_site_local
[14:22:08] <afb> it even got the @pkgdep snuck into it now
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[14:23:05] <afb> kinda crude, but should give _some_ binary depends ?
[14:24:43] <afb> at least as good as FreeBSD, which isn't much but anyway
[14:25:11] <afb> but as long as everything is built/upgraded, it should be OK
[14:26:04] <jonathanj> jmr_mp: i don't know of any such suckers though
[14:26:52] <jonathanj> anyway, i guess that's a pleasant thought, yay!
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[15:20:15] <jonathanj> hrm, didn't there used to be a +notkinter variant for python?
[15:22:54] <jmr_mp> not quite, it had an underscore
[15:30:22] <jonathanj> it's not listed by port variants python though
[15:30:34] <jonathanj> how do i set my python version?
[15:31:43] <jonathanj> mmm, i guess maybe this environment is stale
[15:32:39] <jonathanj> looks like that's the problem
[15:40:18] <jonathanj> *groan* no py27-openssl?
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[16:32:54] <mpbot> mf2k_mp is Frank (macsforever2000) and maintainer of py26-scikits-umfpack, py27-pmw, fasthenry-wr, and py26-usadel1 (of 14 total) and is in Boulder, CO; local time is Tue 08:32 MDT
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[17:09:03] <akaplan> jonathanj: you could copy py26-openssl to py27-openssl
[17:11:22] <jonathanj> akaplan: true, i didn't think about that, i just switched to python26 (since that's what we run our production code on, so probably for the best)
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[17:16:46] <akaplan> jonathanj: you might remember that next time you'll have a py27-* package but no py26-*. Or if you want that feature in 0.12 that is not in 0.10.
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[17:18:57] <jonathanj> akaplan: thanks for the tip
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[17:44:39] <wiking> mmm hey! i've upgraded today my macports to 2.0.0 and for some reason ever since then uninstalling a port (while upgrading to a new one) fails... any ideas?
[17:45:36] <snc> wiking: which command are you using for that?
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[17:46:19] <wiking> well i'm simply executing: sudo port upgrade -u <portname>
[17:46:28] <wiking> but i've tried even: sudo port uninstall <portname>
[17:46:30] <wiking> same error
[17:46:41] <snc> is it on all ports that it fails? or just a specific one?
[17:46:57] <wiking> all ports
[17:47:04] <wiking> i've tried now 4 different ones
[17:47:06] <wiking> all the same
[17:47:41] <wiking> and example output: http://pastebin.com/xvN5Hrk7
[17:47:58] <snc> ah okay
[17:48:26] <snc> i wonder what got left behind in the uninstall.
[17:48:46] <snc> i'd recommend opening a new ticket, against base instead of ports.
[17:49:09] <mf2k_mp> wiking: are you running it as root? maybe it's a permissions issue?
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[17:49:42] <mf2k_mp> oh nm - you are
[17:49:48] <wiking> mf2k_mp: running ports command with sudo
[17:49:51] <mf2k_mp> right
[17:49:51] <wiking> so should be fine
[17:50:24] <mf2k_mp> try cleaning xz
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[17:52:50] <snc> wiking: if it's the cleaning, a simple approach for everything might be `sudo port clean installed`
[17:53:19] <mf2k_mp> snc: reading your reply...
[17:55:00] <snc> mf2k_mp: the reply in the ticket is more tailored
[17:55:08] <snc> i read your email without having read the ticket ;-)
[17:55:54] <mf2k_mp> snc: thx! checking that now...
[17:56:33] <snc> mf2k_mp: in short, kdelibs4 is presently in charge of the header files, whilst the portgroup will eventually be
[17:56:42] <mf2k_mp> argh - computer so slow - i'm running winbloze 7 in vmware - sigh
[17:56:53] <snc> hehe
[17:57:18] <snc> i'm about to head to lunch though, so stick to checking if the files are there in port contents. you can see the section near the bottom of the porfile that does the install
[17:57:41] <mf2k_mp> snc: thanks! :)
[17:57:43] <snc> if they're not there, rebuild kdelibs4. check to see if they're there then---if not check the configure phase for something bieng off
[17:57:57] <snc> and then once installed, rebuild all KDE ports that are dependents of kdelibs4
[17:58:01] <snc> likely everything >_>
[17:58:19] <snc> see ya after lunch :-)
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[18:17:56] <miwi> hi
[18:19:37] <CIA-46> cal at macports dot org * r81176 /branches/gsoc11-rev-upgrade/base/src/machista1.0/Makefile:
[18:19:37] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81176
[18:19:37] <CIA-46> rev-upgrade: Fixed path to tests, added TODO and FIXME notes
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[18:40:55] <gloryman_> Executable does not contain code for architecture:
[18:40:55] <gloryman_>         x86_64
[18:40:56] <gloryman_> Hi all. I have problem with macfuse under Lion. After macfuse reinstall I have error:
[18:41:00] -gloryman_- oops..
[18:41:16] <gloryman_> any way. Any suggestions?
[18:42:00] <mf2k_mp> gloryman: macfuse doesn't work on lion
[18:42:06] <mf2k_mp> try fuse4x instead
[18:42:21] <mf2k_mp> glortyman_: ^
[18:42:35] <mf2k_mp> argh gloryman_: ^
[18:42:48] <gloryman_> mf2k_mp: is it fork?
[18:43:00] <mf2k_mp> yeah it the new version
[18:43:03] <mf2k_mp> it is
[18:43:10] <gloryman_> ok. thanks. I'll try
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[18:43:57] <dports> MacFuse *ought* to work under Lion if you're using a 32-bit kernel; what problem are you having?
[18:44:41] <gloryman_> x86_64 kernel I believe.
[18:44:56] <dports> Oh, was that your error mesage above? Then, yeah, you're using a 64-bit kernel, so try fuse4x.
[18:45:04] <gloryman_> root:xnu-1699.22.73~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
[18:50:00] <gloryman_> ok.  fuse4x installed. But encfs need macfuse as dependencies.
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[18:51:48] <dports> Oh, encfs is one of the few filesystems that doesn't yet support fuse4x.
[18:52:12] <dports> There's a patch in http://trac.macports.org/ticket/30383 which should work, I'm waiting on the maintainer before committing it
[18:52:13] -gloryman_- :(( ok. thanks for help anyway.
[18:52:33] <uebera||> dports: for encfs? I'll have a look, but not before the weekend...
[18:53:24] <dports> Yeah, it's just a makefile patch to use pkgconfig to find libfuse instead of hardcoding -lfuse
[18:53:53] <uebera||> Ah, opened 13 hours ago. No wonder I haven't seen it before. :)
[18:54:14] <dports> Yeah, the fuse4x port has only been around for 13 hours or so. :-)
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[19:07:31] <CIA-46> miwi at macports dot org * r81177 /trunk/dports/www/contao/Portfile:
[19:07:31] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81177
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[19:40:28] <_wms> jmr_mp: http://packages.macports.org/darwinbuild/darwinbuild-24.1_0+universal.darwin_10.i386-x86_64.tbz2.rmd160
[19:41:54] <_wms> jmr_mp: and ping
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[19:58:49] <_wms> Raim: ping
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[20:37:27] <EvilGuru> I am planning to upgrade to Lion, doing a fresh install in the process.  I am yet to buy Xcode 4.  What should I do for a compiler?
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[20:50:41] <RaYmAn> EvilGuru: it's fee
[20:50:46] <RaYmAn> free
[20:50:52] <RaYmAn> from app store
[20:51:22] * EvilGuru thought it cost a small amount, thanks
[20:52:37] <RaYmAn> it did, but it doesn't seem to anymore... I just installed lion a few days ago.fresh overall as well
[20:53:02] <RaYmAn> install... swype sucks, hehe
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[21:07:48] <mpbot> mf2k_mp is Frank (macsforever2000) and maintainer of bacula, kst, py26-pysparse, and py25-pmw (of 14 total) and is in Boulder, CO; local time is Tue 13:06 MDT
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[21:19:24] <snc> mf2k_mp: find anyting?
[21:20:27] <snc> ah, you were successful after a rebuild
[21:20:32] <snc> good!
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[21:24:38] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r81178 /trunk/dports/kde/nepomuk/:
[21:24:38] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81178
[21:24:38] <CIA-46> nepomuk: remove port, stubbed 16 months ago
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[22:15:16] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r81179 /trunk/dports/sysutils/parallel/Portfile:
[22:15:16] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81179
[22:15:16] <CIA-46> parallel: update to 20110722
[22:16:07] <CIA-46> easieste at macports dot org * r81180 /trunk/dports/lang/sbcl/Portfile:
[22:16:07] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81180
[22:16:07] <CIA-46> Update build clause for darwin 11 Lion OS X.
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[22:28:08] <dports> Ugh, MacPorts uses the system TCL, which is 8.4 on Leopard, isn't it?
[22:30:42] <mf2k_mp> dports: sounds right
[22:31:08] <mf2k_mp> dports: BTW I tried installing fuse4x but it doesn't seem to work
[22:31:23] <dports> What doesn't work?
[22:31:37] <mf2k_mp> i installed ntfs-3g and then stuck in a USB key formatted with NTFS and i cannot write to it
[22:31:50] <mf2k_mp> shouldn't i be able to do that now?
[22:32:14] <dports> I think so. I haven't tested ntfs-3g other than verifying that it builds, since I didn't have any NTFS filesystems handy.
[22:32:30] <mf2k_mp> also i cannot read ext3 volumes
[22:33:41] <mf2k_mp> hmmm... maybe i'll try updating the ntfs-3g port to the latest version.
[22:40:52] <dports> Huh, I really don't think I have any NTFS filesystems anywhere that I know of
[22:41:17] <mf2k_mp> argh seeing an error during compile of the latest version of ntfs-3g
[22:41:35] <mf2k_mp> can't find "_libintl_setlocale"
[22:45:49] <dports> configure.ldflags-append -lintl?
[22:46:09] <mf2k_mp> dports: yep - did that and it seems to work
[22:46:17] <mf2k_mp> i think i'm close to testing....
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[22:48:11] <mf2k_mp> dports: hmmmm... still cannot write from the Finder.
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[22:52:33] * dports shrugs.
[22:52:46] <dports> I thought it should work.
[22:52:58] <dports> Sure you're mounting it with ntfs-3g not the native read-only NTFS support?
[22:56:19] <mf2k_mp> dports: well how do i know?
[22:56:28] <mf2k_mp> shouldn't fuse4x override it?
[22:58:03] <mf2k_mp> dports: my mount is still /sbin/mount. fuse4x does not install any binaries it seems.
[22:58:40] <dports> No, it definitely doesn't install a new mount.
[23:01:21] <dports> If it's mounted with ntfs-3g, the mount should show "fuse4x" somewhere in the appropriate line if you run `mount`
[23:03:12] <mf2k_mp> dports: well i'm not sure how to mount it. It's /dev/disk4s1
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[23:03:48] <dports> ntfs-3g /dev/disk4s1 /path/to/mountpoint ?
[23:04:27] <mf2k_mp> mountpoint is in /Volumes right?
[23:04:31] <mf2k_mp> i mean i make it there?
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[23:05:05] <mf2k_mp> that's what i tried and it didn't work
[23:05:41] <dports> I usually put it in /mnt out of habit, but /Volumes should work. You'll have to mkdir it first.
[23:06:20] <mf2k_mp> right - did that and the ntfs-3g command works without error. but i still cannot see it in the Finder and also cannot write to it!
[23:06:21] <mf2k_mp> $ cp ~/Desktop/test.txt /Volumes/ntfs
[23:06:21] <mf2k_mp> cp: /Users/schimaf/Desktop/test.txt: could not copy extended attributes to /Volumes/ntfs/test.txt: Operation not supported on socket
[23:06:33] <mf2k_mp> any ideas?
[23:06:52] <mf2k_mp> dports: should i NOT use sudo with ntfs-3g?
[23:07:01] <mf2k_mp> the command i used was:
[23:07:05] <mf2k_mp> sudo ntfs-3g /dev/disk4s1 /Volumes/ntfs
[23:08:33] <Ionic> Yes you do
[23:08:33] <Raim> _wms: pong. I forwarded the mail to Blair anyway.
[23:08:40] <dports> No idea about the extended attributes.
[23:09:05] <Ionic> extended attributes shouldn't cause a failure if not implemented/used
[23:09:19] <dports> You don't need to run as root to mount a filesystem, but probably do to access /dev/disk*
[23:09:21] <Ionic> Oh wait
[23:09:33] <Ionic> mf2k_mp: does touch /Volumes/ntfs/adsf work?
[23:10:11] <mf2k_mp> Ionic - Yes!
[23:10:19] <mf2k_mp> weird - my test file is there too!!!
[23:10:36] <Ionic> mf2k_mp: cp just couldn't copy the extended attributes
[23:10:44] <mf2k_mp> right!
[23:10:44] <Ionic> the content was moved through
[23:10:47] <Ionic> *though
[23:10:54] <mf2k_mp> now how to get the volume to show up in the Finder
[23:10:57] <mf2k_mp> any ideas?
[23:11:17] <Ionic> Uhm mount it through Disk Utility?
[23:11:23] <mf2k_mp> I'm going to commit the ntfs-3g update
[23:11:31] <mf2k_mp> Ionic: let me try
[23:11:42] <dports> I see there's #27649 about that but I haven't read it all
[23:11:52] <Ionic> !bug #27649
[23:11:58] <Ionic> Mh we need such a tool ;P
[23:12:26] <neverpanic> !ticket 27649
[23:12:27] <mpbot> https://trac.macports.org/ticket/27649
[23:12:29] <mf2k_mp> Yes i was following that ticket, but the maintainer - petri - stopped responding
[23:12:38] <Ionic> Ah thanks neverpanic
[23:13:57] <CIA-46> macsforever2000 at macports dot org * r81181 /trunk/dports/fuse/ntfs-3g/Portfile:
[23:13:57] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81181
[23:13:57] <CIA-46> ntfs-3g: Update to version 2011.4.12. Adds ntfsprogs.
[23:14:23] <Ionic> Uhm
[23:14:30] <Ionic> ntfsprogs shipped with ntfs-3g?
[23:14:48] <mf2k_mp> Ionic - other way around actually
[23:14:52] <mf2k_mp> no wait
[23:14:53] <mf2k_mp> yes!
[23:15:17] <Ionic> I'd split it into two ports
[23:15:30] <mf2k_mp> It's part of the download now.
[23:15:34] <mf2k_mp> built-in really
[23:15:36] <Ionic> Mh
[23:15:42] <Ionic> Well ok
[23:15:53] <mf2k_mp> I believe the same people maintain both.
[23:15:54] <Ionic> It may just not be obvious to users
[23:16:08] <mf2k_mp> Yeah - i'm prolly gonna stub the ntfsprogs port
[23:16:36] <Ionic> mf2k_mp: is it still using MacFUSE?
[23:17:14] <mf2k_mp> Ionic: does what use macfuse? ntfsprogs didn't even depend on it or ntfs-3g
[23:17:26] <mf2k_mp> I'm using fuse4x
[23:17:32] <Ionic> mf2k_mp: no, the ntfs-3g version you just bumped
[23:17:44] <Ionic> depends_lib         path:lib/pkgconfig/fuse.pc:macfuse
[23:17:57] <Ionic> But I guess it takes either one
[23:18:00] <mf2k_mp> exactly - dports changed it to use fuse4x too
[23:18:02] <Ionic> fuse.pc or macfuse
[23:18:03] <mf2k_mp> exactly!
[23:18:16] <Ionic> Yeah I'm asking because of fuse4x :)
[23:18:23] <mf2k_mp> i personally think we should change the default to fuse4x.
[23:18:31] <mf2k_mp> macfuse is DEAD
[23:22:20] <CIA-46> macsforever2000 at macports dot org * r81182 /trunk/dports/sysutils/ntfsprogs/Portfile:
[23:22:20] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/81182
[23:22:20] <CIA-46> ntfsprogs: Made into stub port. replaced_by ntfs-3g.
[23:23:06] <Ionic> Yes it is :)
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[23:29:23] <mf2k_mp> Ionic: mount from Disk Utility mounts it read-only.
[23:29:40] <mf2k_mp> probably because it uses /sbin/mount_ntfs.
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[23:34:24] <Ionic> mf2k_mp: uhm yeah probably
[23:34:50] <Ionic> mf2k_mp: but AFAIK you could select the driver to be used
[23:35:19] <mf2k_mp> Ionic: how?
[23:35:26] <Ionic> No that was just when formating
[23:35:27] <Ionic> Mh
[23:35:34] <mf2k_mp> right
[23:35:34] <Ionic> No idea how I made this: "Windows NT Filesystem (NTFS-3G)"
[23:36:31] <mf2k_mp> when installing the binaries - it works from the Finder and Disk Utility
[23:37:04] <Ionic> Oh yeah, I'm using the binaries, but I'm pretty sure this can be done with the MP version too
[23:37:16] <mf2k_mp> Ionic: yeah it must be possible
[23:37:19] <Ionic> Probably that's achieved by a postflight script in the NTFS-3G install package
[23:37:32] <mf2k_mp> probably worth dissecting
[23:37:40] <Ionic> I'm no expert here though, sorry mf2k_mp :)
[23:38:55] <dports> Whoa. texlive-latex-extra is actually <5MB of files, just with 250MB of documentation?
[23:39:48] <Ionic> Hm nope, wow
[23:39:59] * dports wonders if that can really be true.
[23:40:00] <Ionic> I can't find any scripts
[23:40:13] <snc> well documented software!?
[23:40:19] <Ionic> dports: proposing a variants +doc ;P
[23:40:26] <snc> hehe
[23:40:58] <dports> It already has one, although it still has to download the docs.
[23:41:08] <dports> The next version will fix that.
[23:41:08] <Ionic> lol
[23:41:14] <Ionic> Ah ok
[23:41:38] <Ionic> Soo, bed time :)
[23:41:40] <Ionic> good night
[23:44:43] <snc> see ya
[23:47:38] <dports> 24 MB installed with -doc -src, 395 MB with +doc +src. I wonder wtf it's installing.
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[23:51:45] <dports> minitoc alone has 80MB of documentation





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