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[00:20:56] <macUzer> do MacPorts use clang?
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[00:47:06] <Dynetrekk> another question; can one install macports without joining the apple developer program ?
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[01:23:53] <jmr_mp> Dynetrekk: if you install xcode from the OS disc
[01:25:12] <jmr_mp> looks like gcc46 needs to be updated to the final release and enable java and fortran (which were disabled for the betas)
[01:26:36] <Dynetrekk> jmr_mp: OS disk? I thought it wasn't there anymore? it wasn't on my leopard disk, didn't check snow leopard
[01:26:55] <jmr_mp> it was on both for me...
[01:27:08] <Dynetrekk> jmr_mp: heh, that's funny. I had upgrade disks only, though
[01:27:18] <Dynetrekk> maybe my searching-install-media skill is sub-par
[01:28:02] <jmr_mp> signing up for a free ADC account isn't that much trouble though, is it?
[01:28:24] <Dynetrekk> jmr_mp: it's not free anymore. $99
[01:28:37] <jmr_mp> the free one is still free
[01:28:46] <jmr_mp> the paid one dropped to $99
[01:29:09] <Dynetrekk> jmr_mp: oh really? I didn't find the free one, just the $99 one
[01:29:30] <Dynetrekk> have to admit, the least user friendly thing to have an apple on it is their website
[01:29:36] <jmr_mp> http://developer.apple.com/programs/register/
[01:30:41] <Dynetrekk> I find it really annoying that I have to re-registrer every time this comes up
[01:30:50] <Dynetrekk> anyway, is it possible to just use the gcc from here?
[01:30:57] <jmr_mp> where is here?
[01:31:02] <Dynetrekk> here = http://hpc.sourceforge.net/
[01:31:09] <jmr_mp> no idea
[01:31:27] <Dynetrekk> what is required for macports? just gcc?
[01:31:29] <jmr_mp> if you have a complete usable toolchain, theoretically yes
[01:31:41] <jmr_mp> gcc, as, ld, ...
[01:32:06] <jmr_mp> xcodebuild for some ports
[01:32:18] <Dynetrekk> jmr_mp: ah, xcodebuild... that's not open source, is it
[01:32:22] <jmr_mp> no
[01:32:49] <jmr_mp> and make, obviously
[01:33:01] <jmr_mp> and <random standard tool> as needed by <random port>
[01:34:05] <Dynetrekk> right. it would be great if macports was independent of xcode I think. but I guess it's hard to get around
[01:35:47] <jmr_mp> I think everyone's hoping that if Apple keeps charging for Xcode on Lion, they'll release a free "Developer Tools" package that has the command line tools
[01:36:00] <Dynetrekk> jmr_mp: so there is no motivation for people here to get rid of the xcode-stuff dependencies?
[01:36:12] <jmr_mp> not yet anyway
[01:38:29] <jmr_mp> maintaining a toolchain is kind of a whole project in itself
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[01:38:29] <Dynetrekk> jmr_mp: I dream of that day. it's a bit complicated for new users to get into macports I think. although it is tremendously useful
[01:38:29] <aber> Do the Header files also come with XCode?
[01:38:29] <Dynetrekk> sure, that is true
[01:38:29] <jmr_mp> aber: yes
[01:38:29] <jmr_mp> at least some of them
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[01:58:19] <CIA-46> fotanus at macports dot org * r79300 /branches/gsoc11-post-destroot/base/src/port1.0/ (5 files):
[01:58:19] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79300
[01:58:19] <CIA-46> Changed postdestroot phase name for checkdestroot
[01:58:19] <CIA-46> Avoids confusion for the name
[01:59:07] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r79301 /trunk/dports/lang/gnat-gcc/Portfile:
[01:59:07] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79301
[01:59:07] <CIA-46> gnat-gcc: update gcc_select references to port select
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[02:33:54] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79306
[02:33:54] <CIA-46> esniper: maintainer update to 2.25.0; see #29754
[02:50:07] <CIA-46> fotanus at macports dot org * r79307 /branches/gsoc11-post-destroot/base/src/port1.0/portcheckdestroot.tcl:
[02:50:07] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79307
[02:50:07] <CIA-46> Changed link check logic
[02:50:07] <CIA-46> Apply the path provided by perry and tuned it
[02:50:07] <CIA-46> to be able to pass the tests.
[02:51:37] <CIA-46> fotanus at macports dot org * r79308 /users/fotanus/ports/test/relative_path_out_of_destroot/Portfile:
[02:51:37] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79308
[02:51:37] <CIA-46> Fixed test - now it really points for something out of destroot
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[03:00:53] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79309
[03:00:53] <CIA-46> glib2-devel: update to 2.29.6
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[03:40:18] <CIA-46> singingwolfboy at macports dot org * r79310 /trunk/dports/aqua/iTerm2/ (. Portfile):
[03:40:18] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79310
[03:40:18] <CIA-46> New port: iTerm2
[03:40:25] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r79311 /trunk/dports/science/triangle/Portfile:
[03:40:25] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79311
[03:40:25] <CIA-46> triangle: use build_arch (#25060)
[03:45:51] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79312 /trunk/dports/devel/cproto/ (. Portfile files/ files/patch-Makefile.in.diff):
[03:45:51] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79312
[03:45:51] <CIA-46> cproto: new port, version 4.6; see #29755
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[03:58:20] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79313
[03:58:20] <CIA-46> EMBOSS: fix livecheck; see #27765
[04:13:01] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79314 /trunk/dports/devel/glib1/Portfile:
[04:13:01] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79314
[04:13:01] <CIA-46> glib1: whitespace / formatting changes only
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[04:14:38] <CIA-46> glib1: add more checksum types
[04:17:08] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79316 /trunk/dports/science/EMBOSS/Portfile:
[04:17:08] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79316
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[04:40:52] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79317
[04:40:52] <CIA-46> EMBOSS: update to 6.3.1 (#27765) and add gd2 dependency (#28082)
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[04:42:49] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79318
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[06:14:41] <andy753421> I've developed some software for Linux using GTK+, but don't own a Mac
[06:15:21] <andy753421> is it possible for me to setup something using MacPorts so some of my friends who use OSX can also use my software?
[06:18:35] <preaction> GTK+ works natively on OSX using the provided X11.app
[06:19:25] <preaction> ask one of them to help you compile it
[06:19:53] <andy753421> preaction: i know, but from what I hear I need to have a mac and use Xcode or something to compile it
[06:20:31] <andy753421> preaction: they all live far away from me and are not programmers :/
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[09:01:46] <CIA-46> mk at macports dot org * r79319 /trunk/dports/kde/kmymoney4-devel/Portfile:
[09:01:46] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79319
[09:01:46] <CIA-46> kmymoney4-devel: update to svn revision 1235734
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[10:12:57] <jmr_mp> andy753421: cross-compiling to target OS X from Linux is theoretically possible using odcctools, but not really ever done in practice
[10:14:55] <andy753421> jmr_mp: thaks, i'll take a look at that
[10:15:05] <andy753421> i really just want to get it building once, that way it's easy for someone else to update it
[10:15:42] <jmr_mp> andy753421: really you're better off writing a portfile and getting ssh access to one of your friends' machines to build a pkg
[10:15:44] <andy753421> maybe i'll just go to my local Mac store and loiter around compiling code until they kick me out =D
[10:16:14] <andy753421> jmr_mp: oh, you only need ssh for it? I assumed everything mac-ish required a GUI
[10:16:22] <jmr_mp> not macports :)
[10:16:47] <jmr_mp> there are a couple of GUIs for it out there, maybe that would be user-friendly enough?
[10:17:15] <andy753421> mkay, i'll try that too :) i suppose I can use VNC to test it if i need too, except it's OpenGL, which might not work very well over VNC
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[10:19:16] <andy753421> can i develop for macports as a regular user or will my friend have to give me root access?
[10:21:39] <jmr_mp> you can install as non-root but you can't use the binary installer to do so
[10:21:46] <andy753421> ok
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[10:24:36] <andy753421> does macports use the x11 or native osx interface for gtk+?
[10:25:00] <andy753421> I'm wondering if i'll be able to tunnel X11 back to my laptop
[10:26:15] <rubikcube_work> macports uses neither, but if you compile X11 applications, of course you can tunnel them
[10:26:38] <jmr_mp> the gtk2 port is X11 by default, with an experimental quartz variant
[10:27:18] <andy753421> jmr_mp: sounds good, thanks
[10:30:34] <rubikcube_work> one question: is there a simple way to set one Portfile directory to a specific revision (i.e. go back in time cleanly)?
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[10:50:38] <neverpanic> rubikcube_work: http://guide.macports.org/#development.local-repositories <- that would work
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[10:52:21] <rubikcube_work> neverpanic: that looks to be simply for local ports, but how can I get older versions from the repo into that?
[10:52:46] <neverpanic> svn checkout the revision you want
[10:54:16] <rubikcube_work> ah ok
[10:54:31] <rubikcube_work> I think this one has it in more completeness https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/InstallingOlderPort
[10:54:32] <rubikcube_work> thanks
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[11:23:49] <justinfront> hi is there a macports for sdl ?
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[11:24:37] <rubikcube_work> port search libsdl: yes
[11:32:04] <justinfront> thanks rubikcube... I tried sudo port clean --all NAME, where name was libpng, zlib, libogg, freetype, smpeg, curl, jpeg, libvorbis   and then running a make file for sdl-static use for nme ( haxe neko/cpp ) but seem to be getting no where so thought maybe it would work to use ports, but running the command you suggest brings up a load of sdl files... and looking at the stuff I need...
[11:32:06] <justinfront> ...http://code.google.com/p/sdl-static/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk%2Flib%2FMac  I am not sure do I need to install several of these sdl ports or is there a catch all approach ?
[11:33:30] <justinfront> would libsdl-devel  cover them all?
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[11:51:59] <justinfront> does macports work with iphone stuff?
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[13:02:04] <gregoire> Hello, I am new to macport, under 10.6 does +universal mean 32 and 64 bits ?
[13:02:46] <rubikcube_work> justinfront: I don't know about iphones.
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[13:03:37] <rubikcube_work> and I would simply start with libsdl-devel, and see if that's sufficient
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[13:17:12] <neverpanic> greg<tab>: yes
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[13:49:27] <justinfront> If I want to reinstall libsdl-devel but force any compiling to use gcc 4.6 the default terminal one how can I do that?
[13:51:17] <arrmp> I'm having issues with getting KCacheGrind to work, ofc using ports to install it.
[13:51:31] <arrmp> Starts up just fine, but it doesn't work - loaded profiles don't show any stacks etc.
[14:02:41] <jmr_mp> why do you want to use libsdl-devel?
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[14:29:03] <neverpanic> justinfront: port -n
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[14:29:35] <neverpanic> justinfront: port -n upgrade --force libsdl-devel configure.cc=/path/to/gcc-46 might do.
[14:29:43] <neverpanic> or you could edit the portfile
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[14:30:52] <justinfront> jmr-mp I am trying to setup neko and n nme2 on a leopard I think it is setup for snowy so trying to build all from source
[14:31:29] <Raim> neverpanic: I doubt that works as configure.* is populated during configure based on OS and version
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[17:01:42] <easyE`> Thinking about installing Xcode 4.  Is it still a problem to have a side by side Xcode 3 installation?
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[18:29:04] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79320
[18:29:04] <CIA-35> port bitcoin, added command line server, fixed wx-config path, bumped revision
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[18:45:27] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79321 /trunk/dports/python/ (py-paver/Portfile py25-paver/Portfile py26-paver/Portfile):
[18:45:28] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79321
[18:45:28] <CIA-35> py-paver, py25-paver, py26-paver: update to 1.0.4 and indicate that this is noarch
[18:48:02] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79322 /trunk/dports/python/py26-PyRSS2Gen/Portfile:
[18:48:02] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79322
[18:48:02] <CIA-35> py26-PyRSS2Gen is noarch
[18:49:51] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79323 /trunk/dports/python/py26-PyRSS2Gen/Portfile:
[18:49:52] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79323
[18:49:52] <CIA-35> py26-PyRSS2Gen: fix livecheck
[18:51:07] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79324 /trunk/dports/python/py26-PyRSS2Gen/Portfile:
[18:51:08] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79324
[18:51:08] <CIA-35> py26-PyRSS2Gen: whitespace changes and add modeline
[18:53:11] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79325 /trunk/dports/python/py26-PyRSS2Gen/Portfile:
[18:53:11] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79325
[18:53:11] <CIA-35> py26-PyRSS2Gen: fix description
[18:55:37] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79326 /trunk/dports/python/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[18:55:38] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79326
[18:55:38] <CIA-35> py-beautifulsoup, py25-beautifulsoup, py26-beautifulsoup, py27-beautifulsoup: fix livecheck
[18:58:04] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79327 /trunk/dports/python/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[18:58:04] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79327
[18:58:04] <CIA-35> py-beautifulsoup, py25-beautifulsoup, py26-beautifulsoup, py27-beautifulsoup: noarch
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[19:12:51] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79328 /trunk/dports/python/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[19:12:51] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79328
[19:12:51] <CIA-35> py-feedparser, py25-feedparser, py26-feedparser, py27-feedparser: update to 5.0.1, indicate this is noarch, switch to googlecode for distfiles, switch to smaller bz2 distfile
[19:15:34] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79329 /trunk/dports/python/ (py26-html5lib/Portfile py27-html5lib/Portfile):
[19:15:34] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79329
[19:15:34] <CIA-35> py26-html5lib, py27-html5lib: noarch
[19:17:11] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79330 /trunk/dports/python/py26-progressbar/Portfile:
[19:17:11] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79330
[19:17:11] <CIA-35> py26-progressbar: noarch
[19:18:45] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79331 /trunk/dports/python/py26-pygooglechart/Portfile:
[19:18:45] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79331
[19:18:45] <CIA-35> py26-pygooglechart: noarch
[19:20:08] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79332 /trunk/dports/python/py26-pynzb/Portfile:
[19:20:08] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79332
[19:20:08] <CIA-35> py26-pynzb: noarch
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[19:34:59] <CIA-35> dluke at macports dot org * r79333 /trunk/dports/sysutils/clamav/Portfile:
[19:34:59] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79333
[19:34:59] <CIA-35> clamav: version bump to 0.97.1
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[19:44:48] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79334 /trunk/dports/python/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[19:44:48] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79334
[19:44:48] <CIA-35> py-sqlalchemy, py25-sqlalchemy, py26-sqlalchemy, py27-sqlalchemy: update to 0.7.1, indicate license
[19:52:20] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79335 /trunk/dports/python/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[19:52:21] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79335
[19:52:21] <CIA-35> py-cherrypy3, py25-cherrypy3, py26-cherrypy3: fix livecheck
[19:56:24] <CIA-35> dluke at macports dot org * r79336 /trunk/dports/devel/apr/ (Portfile files/ files/apr_h_patch.diff):
[19:56:24] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79336
[19:56:25] <CIA-35> apr: add patch for building on Darwin < 10 (#29748)
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[20:10:23] <CIA-35> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79337 /trunk/dports/python/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[20:10:23] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79337
[20:10:23] <CIA-35> py-cherrypy3, py25-cherrpy3, py26-cherrypy3: update to 3.2.0, indicate license, indicate noarch
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[21:49:08] <CIA-35> and.damore at macports dot org * r79338 /trunk/dports/finance/bitcoin/Portfile:
[21:49:09] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79338
[21:49:09] <CIA-35> port bitcoin updated, removed gone files (README, locale/), added miniupnpc dependency, fixed makefile wrong path for libminiupnpc
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[22:40:02] <CIA-35> jeremyhu at macports dot org * r79339 /trunk/dports/multimedia/libvpx/files/ (patch-build-make-configure.sh.diff patch-configure.diff):
[22:40:02] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79339
[22:40:02] <CIA-35> libvpx: darwin11 buildfix
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[23:38:36] <CIA-35> and.damore at macports dot org * r79340 /trunk/dports/net/miniupnpc/Portfile:
[23:38:36] <CIA-35> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79340
[23:38:36] <CIA-35> port miniupnpc, set up right compilr, fixed a Makefile issue with resulting library install_name, revision bumped, epoch cleared
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