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[00:50:12] <herdrick> question about a note I get from a port
[00:50:23] <herdrick> this is from:  "port notes python26"
[00:50:40] <herdrick> that gives me
[00:50:41] <herdrick> python26 has the following notes:
[00:50:41] <herdrick>   To make python 2.6 the default (i.e. the version you get when you run
[00:50:41] <herdrick>   'python'), please run:
[00:50:41] <herdrick>       	sudo port select --set python python26
[00:51:18] <herdrick> first question: how do I change it back if I need to?
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[00:51:59] <herdrick> second question: does that change what will be run when I run 'python' from the command line?
[00:52:16] <drkp> `port select --set python python26-apple`
[00:52:39] <herdrick> and if so, to what?  there is no 'python26' in /usr/bin/   nor in  /usr/local/bin/
[00:52:55] <drkp> It changes what /opt/local/bin/python points to, so it does if that's in your path.
[00:53:09] <herdrick> drkp:  really?  thanks.
[00:53:12] <herdrick> ok
[00:54:25] <herdrick> drkp: /opt/local/bin is before /usr/bin in my $PATH so presumably it will
[00:54:59] <herdrick> from what i understand, things that need Apple (system) python will call it using its absolute path
[00:55:20] <herdrick> so I'm probably safe there
[00:55:24] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79270 /trunk/dports/devel/diffuse/Portfile:
[00:55:24] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79270
[00:55:24] <CIA-46> diffuse: add python27 variant and use it by default; indicate this is noarch
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[01:09:38] <herdrick> drkp:  i already installed Fink.   but i haven't installed any, uh, finks, so I hope I'm ok so far.
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[01:10:50] <geekosaur> "debs" since fink uses the debian package system /apt
[01:11:04] <herdrick> drkp:  ok, cool.  thanks.
[01:11:30] <drkp> What usually goes wrong is that you wind up with different versions of the same program or library installed (this can also happen with installing things manually in /usr/local) and then some program finds the wrong one and tries to link against it.
[01:12:06] <herdrick> dkrp: ok, thanks.
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[02:55:52] <macUzer> Is there a way to capture list of installed ports on mone machine so those same ports can be installed on another machine?
[02:56:25] <macUzer> typo: mone->one
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[03:52:49] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r79271 /trunk/dports/x11/mesa/Portfile:
[03:52:49] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79271
[03:52:49] <CIA-46> mesa: update http source
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[04:36:22] <quotemstr> What the hell? Why is pdflatex failing to load libopenjpeg, which is needed by libpoppler?
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[05:35:45] <CIA-46> l2g at macports dot org * r79272 /trunk/dports/perl/p5-moosex-classattribute/Portfile:
[05:35:45] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79272
[05:35:45] <CIA-46> p5-moosex-classattribute: new version 0.26
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[06:16:46] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79273 /trunk/dports/graphics/gd2/Portfile:
[06:16:46] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79273
[06:16:46] <CIA-46> gd2: temporarily remove main site from master_sites until they restore their content
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[06:22:24] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r79274 /trunk/dports/devel/ocaml-vorbis/ (. Portfile):
[06:22:24] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79274
[06:22:24] <CIA-46> New port: ocaml-vorbis, OCaml bindings for the libvorbis audio encoder/decoder library (#16190)
[06:32:45] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79275 /trunk/dports/www/phpmyadmin/Portfile:
[06:32:46] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79275
[06:32:46] <CIA-46> phpmyadmin: update to 3.4.2
[06:33:08] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79276 /trunk/dports/devel/glib2/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[06:33:08] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79276
[06:33:08] <CIA-46> glib2: update to 2.28.8
[06:51:01] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79277 /trunk/dports/archivers/dtrx/ (. Portfile):
[06:51:01] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79277
[06:51:01] <CIA-46> dtrx: new port, version 7.0; requested in #29681
[07:04:20] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79278 /trunk/dports/textproc/kytea/ (. Portfile files/ files/patch-configure.diff):
[07:04:20] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79278
[07:04:20] <CIA-46> kytea: new port, version 0.3.0; see #29712
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[09:14:46] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r79279 /trunk/dports/devel/ustl/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
[09:14:46] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79279
[09:14:46] <CIA-46> ustl: update to 1.5, fix build failure on 10.6 (#24984)
[09:29:01] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79280 /trunk/dports/graphics/ (graphviz-devel/Portfile graphviz-gui-devel/Portfile):
[09:29:01] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79280
[09:29:01] <CIA-46> graphviz-devel, graphviz-gui-devel: update to 2.29.20110606.0445
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[10:30:41] <CIA-46> cal at macports dot org * r79281 /branches/gsoc11-rev-upgrade/base/src/cregistry/file.c:
[10:30:41] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79281
[10:30:41] <CIA-46> rev-upgrade: Corrected typo in query
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[10:51:32] <cilly> hi
[10:51:52] <cilly> Is there a simple command to re-compile all installed packages?
[10:53:48] <neverpanic> port upgrade -n --force installed might do
[10:54:03] <neverpanic> Why would you want to do this?
[10:54:53] <Raim> would work, but if it fails on any port you are lost
[10:55:08] <Raim> there is a script to do this at http://trac.macports.org/wiki/Migration
[10:58:28] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79282 /trunk/dports/ruby/rb19-mysql/Portfile:
[10:58:28] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79282
[10:58:28] <CIA-46> rb19-mysql: update to 2.8.2, disable universal variant, don't overwrite portgroup's dependencies (#29740)
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[11:00:02] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79283 /trunk/dports/ruby/rb19-mysql/Portfile:
[11:00:03] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79283
[11:00:03] <CIA-46> rb19-mysql: fix whitespace, add modeline
[11:00:38] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79284 /trunk/dports/ruby/rb19-mysql/Portfile:
[11:00:38] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79284
[11:00:38] <CIA-46> rb19-mysql: fix capitalization of "MySQL" in description
[11:01:36] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79285 /trunk/dports/ruby/rb19-gli/Portfile:
[11:01:37] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79285
[11:01:37] <CIA-46> rb19-gli: remove superfluous dependency already added by portgroup
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[11:03:11] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79286 /trunk/dports/ruby/rb19-rainbow/Portfile:
[11:03:11] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79286
[11:03:11] <CIA-46> rb19-rainbow: remove superfluous dependency already added by portgroup
[11:04:15] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79287 /trunk/dports/ruby/rb19-trac4r/Portfile:
[11:04:15] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79287
[11:04:15] <CIA-46> rb19-trac4r: append to, rather than repeating, the portgroup's dependencies
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[11:08:24] <cilly> neverpanic & Raim: thx for helping, the thing is I upgraded developper tools and would like to recompile all stuff.
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[11:39:32] <justinfront> Hi Trying to document setting up nme2 (haxe for c++ ) and I would like to recommend macports, but xcode dependancy is very far from ideal.  I wanted to know if anyone knows of a link that explains ways to install macports without having xcode installed - is this possible, I ask this because xcode is now a charged for product and I have found macports very useful for updating my gcc, but...
[11:39:33] <justinfront> ...can't expect users to buy Xcode just for this setup of some opensource tools.
[11:42:15] <justinfront> does macports really rely on xcode installed, or is it just easier to setup that way?
[11:42:18] <afb> use xcode 3 ?
[11:42:45] <justinfront> is that free to install and legally free to download?
[11:42:59] <afb> even included, sans upgrades
[11:46:26] <justinfront> ?  afb why does macports need xcode installed
[11:47:04] <Raim> justinfront: MacPorts compiles from source, to do so it needs a compiler, headers and libraries provided by Xcode
[11:48:19] <afb> technically macports shouldn't need xcode, if you have enough pre-built binaries
[11:48:32] <afb> in practice, though, there might be something or other using a utility from it
[11:49:01] <afb> the renaming from Developer Tools -> Xcode Tools -> Xcode didn't help either
[11:49:34] <justinfront> gcc is free could it not be packaged as a compiler as a dmg for macports?  I mean this is an opensource project.. seems strange that your community has not looked into this now xcode is a paid product.
[11:49:36] <afb> even though some ports do use xcode (e.g. "xcodebuild"), most only need e.g. gcc
[11:50:08] <afb> well, you would want the headers and frameworks and libraries anyway
[11:50:23] <Raim> yep, it's more than just gcc
[11:50:29] <afb> even if doing a separate install of compiler/linker and friends
[11:50:53] <afb> but yeah, the "opendarwin" and "puredarwin" and friends was all about open source
[11:50:57] <justinfront> is macports active still it seems something that really ought to be addressed
[11:51:13] <afb> and being able to install without using the properietary tools
[11:51:21] <afb> nobody cared (enough to make a difference)
[11:52:23] <afb> but it's really two different bugs: 1) requiring developer tools 2) requiring non-free
[11:53:16] <afb> and as long as it is "free enough" (i.e. old version works, $5 isn't much, some source is open, etc)
[11:53:22] <afb> the main problem is that there aren't any packages
[11:54:21] <justinfront> well I am front end developer so I would not be able to help really but I think it should be something that should be addressed. What do you mean there aren't any packages?
[11:54:42] <afb> not enough pre-built binaries
[11:54:51] <afb> requiring to build from source
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[11:55:34] <Bonjour> hello everyone
[11:55:36] <justinfront> but as I said gcc is free so can't it be setup to self build
[11:56:24] <neverpanic> Gentoo Prefix does that iirc, if you really want that badly.
[11:56:41] <Raim> justinfront: gcc is just the compiler, you would also need the non-free headers, libraries and frameworks which Apple provides with Xcode
[11:56:54] <Bonjour> can someone help me? I installed macport but when I write "sudo port selfupdate" in the terminal I always get "sudo: port: command not find"
[11:57:00] <Bonjour> I'm a unix beginner
[11:57:06] <Raim> Bonjour: did you open a new terminal window?
[11:57:07] <Bonjour> I guess it's a common problem...
[11:57:51] <afb> somebody should do a gcc/make/etc package for $10
[11:58:02] <afb> just to figure out what the real problem actually is
[11:58:16] <Bonjour> THAANKK YOOU RAIMMM!!!!
[11:58:21] <Bonjour> it works now
[11:59:32] <justinfront> afb is it something you can do, and could it be made to work with tiger/leopard/snowy?
[11:59:54] <Bonjour> I feel stupid now :s
[11:59:55] <Bonjour> :)
[12:00:09] <afb> anyway, last time I looked xcode4 was more trouble than help (with ports)
[12:00:37] <afb> an interesting question would be whether xcode is included with lion ?
[12:00:38] <justinfront> I am not so keen on something that costs as that sort of goes against having an open solution.
[12:00:54] <Raim> Bonjour: well, it's really a common mistake. the installer writes instructions to .profile which are only read at startup of the shell
[12:00:58] <afb> actually I think the opposites are free/paid and open/closed
[12:03:35] <justinfront> ok afb I would like to have a workflow that allows users to compile haxe for c++ without any dependancy on paid products, sure they can use paid products to edit code or to create graphics if they want... but it should be possible without.
[12:03:37] <afb> justinfront: I did once upon a time, but that was more to add support for a new language...
[12:03:59] <justinfront> off for food
[12:04:10] <afb> so use xcode3
[12:04:11] <CIA-46> cal at macports dot org * r79288 /branches/gsoc11-rev-upgrade/base/src/cregistry/file.c:
[12:04:11] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79288
[12:04:11] <CIA-46> rev-upgrade: C can copy structs :)
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[12:06:32] <CIA-46> cal at macports dot org * r79289 /branches/gsoc11-rev-upgrade/base/src/cregistry/registry.c:
[12:06:32] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79289
[12:06:32] <CIA-46> rev-uprgade: Cleanup, modeline
[12:07:02] <neverpanic> Raim
[12:07:16] <Raim> neverpanic
[12:07:24] <CIA-46> cal at macports dot org * r79290 /branches/gsoc11-rev-upgrade/base/src/registry2.0/registry.c:
[12:07:25] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79290
[12:07:25] <CIA-46> rev-upgrade: Fixed double-free
[12:07:27] <neverpanic> this.
[12:07:33] <Raim> neverpanic: nice!
[12:08:14] <neverpanic> reason: personal stupidity and blindness when reading valgrind output.
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[12:28:33] <afb> "OS X Lion", eh ? as compared with "Mac OS X Snow Leopard"
[12:30:21] <Raim> afb: yeah, but we had seen this before at other events with banners reading "OS X" only
[12:31:39] <afb> I dunno, the media here is still stuck on Ios and Imac
[12:32:13] <afb> so when it comes to "oh ess ecks", it's all lost already
[12:33:34] <afb> guess there's two kinds of people, making the abbrevation
[12:34:00] <afb> some will say "I think I call it Mac" the others go "OS/X"
[12:34:59] <Raim> afb: but it's "oh ess ten" actually!!1
[12:35:17] <afb> Raim: so they say
[12:35:44] <afb> and that wasn't working last millenium either
[12:36:46] <Raim> it's not like anyone cares what the X in OS X stands for
[12:37:31] <Raim> see, the "i" in "iMac" doesn't have any semantic either
[12:37:34] <afb> It was kinda neat with the "OS 9", "OS X", but that faded
[12:37:56] <afb> and of course, was lost already with the OS 9.1, OS X 10.1
[12:38:59] <afb> I'm going to say Mac OS X anyway :-)
[12:39:24] <Raim> :)
[12:41:48] <afb> at least they lost the "LaunchPad"
[12:42:07] <Raim> afb: really? what's it called now?
[12:42:11] <afb> "Launchpad"
[12:42:22] <Raim> ah!
[12:42:43] <afb> not to be confused with launchpad.net
[12:45:01] <Raim> an interesting fact is that you can install Lion on as many Macs as you like
[12:45:17] <afb> which could be "none"
[12:45:36] <Raim> heh
[12:45:45] <afb> but yeah, that's different
[12:51:31] <tittof> i hear you can only get lion via appstore..  if I wrecked my system (yes im evil).. i will have to install snow leopard and upgrade again?
[12:51:58] <afb> think it comes with a restore partition
[12:52:57] <tittof> one could wreck partitions aswell, right?
[12:53:05] <Raim> a new feature of Time Machine is "Reinstall Mac OS X"
[12:53:32] <tittof> i mean i can imagine that it is a major push for the app store to even issue major os updates via that channel but still
[12:54:02] <afb> you could even get ports that way
[12:54:06] <tittof> ok let's say I loose the entire hd and put in a fresh one..
[12:54:07] <afb> just have to bundle them with an os
[12:54:52] <afb> (and get the sandboxing bonus)
[12:55:19] <tittof> that sandboxing sounds cool.. is that done with trustedbsd alike things?
[12:56:11] <BlackFrog|> tittof: Part of the SL installation is a feature to restore from backup, any backup.
[12:57:47] <afb> pretty sure it would be similar to iOS
[12:58:37] <tittof> BlackFrog|: for doing that i will have to have a complete installation first (with my first user and so on).
[12:58:54] <tittof> probably customized (skipping some printer drivers)
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[13:00:22] <tittof> sorry for bringing this off topic - this is about macports.
[13:01:05] <afb> osxports
[13:03:22] <tittof> joke or is that really gonna happen? =)
[13:03:39] <afb> for now, joke
[13:03:56] <afb> but if you're not running Mac OS X
[13:04:21] <afb> but OS X, then why run MacSomething
[13:04:44] <afb> and the iosports already started. sorta.
[13:05:21] <afb> ignoring all the weird hybrids crawling around the lab, like macports on bsd
[13:05:48] <tittof> ppl are using macports on freebsd?
[13:06:18] <afb> using ? don't think so. it was more the logical end point of a certain tangent
[13:06:51] <afb> which started when Darwin died
[13:07:23] <afb> but yeah, it still works on FreeBSD. if nothing else to try the portability
[13:13:35] <jmr_mp> Raim: the i was for internet circa 1999
[13:16:03] <jmr_mp> people have asked me if "OS X" being pronounced "OS ten" means Xcode is pronounced "ten code"
[13:26:54] <BlackFrog|> tittof: If you put in the SL installation disc and boot from it, there's an option to recover from backup.
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[13:27:46] <tittof> BlackFrog|: yeah but a "backup" means an already done installation (with users and stuff)
[13:28:50] <tittof> BlackFrog|: when you start a mac for the very first time after you bought it. with SL installed. You could boot from the dvd and back that state up
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[13:29:38] <tittof> restoring that state would give you the opportunity to go for the registration screen.. watch the funny video and so on
[13:30:27] <BlackFrog|> And I am sure, when you buy a brand new system with Mac OS X Lion, there will be an option to create some sort of clean bootable system.
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[13:31:09] <BlackFrog|> I read a rumor awhile back, that Apple will include a thumbdrive with Mac OS X Lion on it with brand new system.
[13:32:05] <BlackFrog|> If it possible? Yes.  Is it doable? Yes.  Because thumbdrive are cheap.  Imagine a 10 GB branded Apple thumbdrive for Mac OS X Lion users?
[13:33:10] <tittof> macbook air users already have that for sl
[13:33:30] <tittof> wonder wether the latest developer preview is bootable
[13:33:42] <tittof> oops probably not to be said here
[13:33:44] <BlackFrog|> Remember Apple killed the floppy drive, they can try to kill the optical drive also with software downloads.
[13:34:16] <tittof> im perfeclty cool with removing optical drives. Just let me do clean, fresh, virgin installs of my operating system :)
[13:34:17] <aber> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/07/how-to-burn-a-lion-boot-disc/
[13:34:58] <tittof> InstallESD.dmg looks promising :)
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[13:35:10] <justinfront> ok I found where to get 3.1 xcode
[13:35:38] <jmr_mp> yeah NDA breaking in a logged channel may be not so smart
[13:36:09] <BlackFrog|> Ok. Enough Lion talk.  We will worry about all that when it's release.
[13:36:20] <tittof> unless you never signed any NDA ,)
[13:36:28] <BlackFrog|> Now justinfront.  Where did you find Xcode 3.1?
[13:36:31] <jmr_mp> http://guide.macports.org/chunked/installing.xcode.html
[13:37:47] <justinfront> you have to get a free dev licence ( not the paid one ) http://developer.apple.com/programs/start/register/create.php then you need to get it from http://connect.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/MemberSite.woa/wo/5.1.17.2.1.3.3.1.0.1.1.0.3.3.3.3.1
[13:38:07] <BlackFrog|> Thank you.  I have been looking for the extact version of the last release of Xcode for Leopard for a few days now.
[13:38:26] <jmr_mp> it's... right there in the guide...
[13:38:31] <justinfront> you have to click login
[13:39:09] <BlackFrog|> jmr_mp: I didn't think it would be in a guide on macports.  I was looking on wiki for Xcode and it's not there.
[13:39:10] <justinfront> its quite a way down. seems 3.2 wont work on leopard,tiger panther
[13:40:01] <justinfront> jmr_mp if your installing it can you let me know how it goes and if it works with mac ports
[13:40:45] <jmr_mp> I'm not installing anything right now, but every version 3.1.x works fine with macpors on 10.5
[13:40:51] <justinfront> I have xcode installed old one but trying to write tuto on getting nme2 setup (haxe)
[13:41:11] <justinfront> so wanted to be sure what I am saying works
[13:41:25] <jmr_mp> tiger needs 2.5 (also linked directly from the Guide)
[13:41:39] <jmr_mp> panther... is old
[13:45:15] <afb> technically tiger needs 2.4, it's leopard that needs 2.5 (for targeting tiger). not that it matters
[13:45:28] <justinfront> jmr_mp are you installing xcode 3.1 now?
[13:45:38] <jmr_mp> < jmr_mp> I'm not installing anything right now
[13:45:42] <afb> tiger dies in a month, right ?
[13:45:54] <jmr_mp> afb: can it die twice?
[13:46:04] <afb> oh yeah
[13:46:25] * afb thinks "and stay down"
[13:46:40] <afb> whatever that game was
[13:46:42] <jmr_mp> there's already not a tiger dmg of the latest release
[13:46:45] <afb> can only rememeber "particles"
[13:47:06] <jmr_mp> because my tiger box died and nobody else could be bothered
[13:47:25] <afb> ah, didn't notice. somebody snuck in a 1.9.1 link
[13:47:35] <afb> I guess you could use that and selfupgrade from source
[13:47:40] <jmr_mp> yeah
[13:53:25] <justinfront> jmr_mp  will xcode 3.1 work fine with macports, i think it should just wanting to double check
[13:59:33] <jmr_mp> < jmr_mp> (snip), but every version 3.1.x works fine with macpors on 10.5
[13:59:57] <BlackFrog|> When is Apple schedule to stop support on Leopard?
[14:00:31] <jmr_mp> I'm not so sure they officially schedule it
[14:01:12] <jmr_mp> in the past the security updates for 10.n-2 stopped the day 10.n shipped
[14:04:07] <aber> So, anyone knows if the SDK and a compiler will ship with Lion?
[14:04:21] <jmr_mp> nope
[14:05:59] <BlackFrog|> aber, I think the last time they shipped Xcode with the system was Leopard.
[14:06:14] <BlackFrog|> My Leopard disc had Xcode, but my Snow Leopard didn't.
[14:06:17] <jmr_mp> you think incorrectly
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[14:07:03] <BlackFrog|> jmr_mp: So they ship Xcode with every new system?
[14:07:22] <jmr_mp> I believe so
[14:07:33] <jmr_mp> haven't bought a new system in a while though
[14:08:14] <BlackFrog|> The last system I bought was with Leopard and Xcode is on the disc.
[14:08:39] <jmr_mp> so what do you mean "my Snow Leopard didn't"?
[14:10:29] <jmr_mp> the Xcode installer is right there in "Optional Installs" on the 10.6 disc
[14:10:42] <jmr_mp> the retail disc that is
[14:11:03] <jmr_mp> I'm just unsure about what ships with new hardware
[14:13:15] <BlackFrog|> jmr_mp: I am mistaken about Xcode.  I confuse looking for the Hardware Test software and couldn't find it
[14:16:13] <BlackFrog|> jmr_mp: You are right, Xcode is on the SL disc.  I had a hardware problem awhile back and all the support documents was saying the Apple Hardware Test software is on the disc.
[14:16:45] <BlackFrog|> What I didn't realized is they were talking about the disc that shipped with the system.
[14:23:33] <CIA-46> cal at macports dot org * r79291 /branches/gsoc11-rev-upgrade/base/src/cregistry/file.h:
[14:23:33] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79291
[14:23:33] <CIA-46> rev-upgrade: Removed declaration for function not being used without implementation
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[14:25:13] <narfnarfnarf> I've just updated macports and cannot get openssl to build.... is this a known problem?
[14:25:35] <jmr_mp> updated from what to what?
[14:25:49] <narfnarfnarf> from an ancient version to current
[14:26:04] <jmr_mp> https://trac.macports.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&port=%7Eopenssl
[14:26:26] <jmr_mp> pastebin the log
[14:28:16] <narfnarfnarf> this solves it
[14:28:17] <narfnarfnarf> https://trac.macports.org/ticket/28204
[14:28:25] <narfnarfnarf> deleting the dlfcn.h header
[14:28:48] <jmr_mp> ok :)
[14:28:49] <narfnarfnarf> at least seems it does, it's compiling....
[14:28:51] <narfnarfnarf> but thanks!
[14:29:38] <jmr_mp> so yeah, stuff in /usr/local gets found by gcc before stuff in /usr and is therefore often bad news
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[14:34:08] <narfnarfnarf> indeed
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[15:02:46] <CIA-46> deric at macports dot org * r79292 /trunk/dports/python/py26-django/Portfile:
[15:02:46] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79292
[15:02:46] <CIA-46> Update to 1.3, took maintainership. Partly closes #28908.
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[15:08:42] <mpbot> anddam is and.damore and maintainer of libharu, freecell-solver, lua-luasec, and lua-luaexpat (of 35 total)
[15:08:46] <anddam> hello
[15:10:41] <deric> hello
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[15:12:23] <anddam> deric: how do you do?
[15:13:45] 
[15:14:14] <deric> vacation has it perks
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[15:21:09] <BlackFrog|> deric: post a picture.  I want to be jealous
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[15:22:40] <cilly> any idea, why macports installs {prefix}/var/macports/.... with permissions 444 instead of 644?
[15:24:45] <cilly> destroot_umask 022 is set
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[15:26:05] <deric> BlackFrog|: //www.cl.ly/3u19431c3f2Q1f3Q0r2r 1.7M
[15:26:45] <narfnarfnarf> What's the switch for compiling a powerpc version, too? +universal doesn't work
[15:27:20] <afb> narfnarfnarf: see "universal_archs" in macports.conf
[15:27:30] <narfnarfnarf> afb thanks!
[15:27:51] <afb> whatever reason you would want one for...
[15:28:00] <BlackFrog|> deric: Very nice.
[15:28:06] <BlackFrog|> Where is this?
[15:28:26] <deric> stockholm archipelago, sweden
[15:28:36] <afb> like either you have a ppc and it's the default, or you don't and then it's "unsupported"
[15:29:01] <BlackFrog|> deric: This is my current view: http://gallery.me?100004/Desk%20view
[15:30:50] <deric> cilly: {prefix}/var/macports/ and it's contents is 644 for me
[15:31:12] <afb> I think it's supposed to be that way, at least it says "-m 444"
[15:31:43] <afb> e.g. /opt/local/var/macports/port-help.tcl
[15:31:48] <cilly> deric: which version of macports do you use?
[15:32:13] <deric> svn checkout of trunk
[15:32:18] <deric> probably a week old at most
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[15:32:34] <cilly> deric: so it may be fixed in trunk, I use latest stable
[15:32:41] <afb> 	$(INSTALL) -o ${DSTUSR} -g ${DSTGRP} -m 444 port-help.tcl  ${INSTALLDIR}/var/macports/
[15:33:31] <anddam> cilly: what port is that?
[15:34:31] <cilly> I should say: any idea, why macports installs {prefix}/var/macports/software/.... with permissions 444 instead of 644?
[15:34:45] <cilly> it only targets stuff in software
[15:34:48] <anddam> pkg installer?
[15:34:55] <cilly> anddam: no, from source
[15:35:38] <cilly> afb: where is -m 444 set? can't find it.
[15:35:52] <anddam> idk, you may want to go through Makefile
[15:35:55] <afb> but that's not "software", though
[15:36:03] <anddam> "-m 444" in install target
[15:36:14] <anddam> line 34 in svn
[15:36:30] <anddam> afb: do you have lcms and lcms2 installed?
[15:36:54] <afb> anddam: apparently I have   lcms @1.19_2 (active)
[15:37:07] <anddam> can you do a quick test?
[15:37:22] <anddam> bump ImageMagick revision and check if you can build it
[15:37:52] <afb> to 6.7.0 ?
[15:38:23] <anddam> or force build
[15:38:34] <CIA-46> deric at macports dot org * r79293 /trunk/dports/python/py27-django/Portfile:
[15:38:35] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79293
[15:38:35] <CIA-46> Update to 1.3, took maintainership. Partly closes #28908.
[15:38:37] <anddam> just to check if it builds
[15:38:50] <cilly> afb: where is that line you postet: 15:35:29 <afb> 	$(INSTALL) -o ${DSTUSR} -g ${DSTGRP} -m 444 port-help.tcl  ${INSTALLDIR}/var/macports/
[15:38:51] <anddam> I was unable to upgrade it while both lcms and lcms2 were installed
[15:39:19] <afb> cilly: http://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/base/src/port/Makefile#L39
[15:39:30] <anddam> afb: even if configure script correctly disable lcms2 library per configure.args setting in build phase ld fails because it search for a lcms2 symbol in lcms
[15:39:53] <anddam> afb: I asked ryan (maintainer) to reproduce but I'm curious if other system works
[15:40:01] <cilly> afb: I see, so it is hardcoded in the makefile?
[15:40:12] <anddam> well actually in your case it should build just fine because you only have lcms
[15:40:35] <afb> upgrading ImageMagick anyway
[15:40:46] <anddam> should have installed lcms2 first :-)
[15:42:28] <anddam> afb: can you stop ImageMagick upgrade, clean and install lcms2 first?
[15:42:36] <anddam> it's a good test ground
[15:42:53] <afb> anddam: you betcha. only 123 other ports, it seems
[15:42:57] <anddam> woa
[15:43:03] <cilly> afb: on my version it reads: -m 444 setupenv.bash
[15:43:09] <anddam> you should upgrade more often
[15:43:19] <afb> nah
[15:43:31] <afb> the dependencies should be better
[15:44:13] <afb> I'm more of a "upgrade every 6 months, whether needed or not" guy
[15:45:05] <cilly> afb: so if I'd like 644, then I have to edit the makefile and recompile macports, correct?
[15:45:15] <afb> cilly: or chmod?
[15:46:02] <cilly> afb: well, find /usr/local ! -perm -u+w -exec chmod -h u+w '{}' \; does work, but must be executed after each port install
[15:46:15] <cilly> ups :)
[15:46:19] <afb> uhoh, you said /usr/local
[15:46:24] <anddam> cilly: prefix shouldn't be /usr/local
[15:46:29] <afb> in public
[15:46:40] <anddam> anyway permissions for installed port should be in macporst.conf
[15:46:41] <cilly> s/\/usr\/local/$prefix/
[15:46:54] <anddam> here you're talking the mp installation
[15:48:26] <afb> then again all the cool kids are pwning /usr/local
[15:49:14] <cilly> well, you can only set umask in macports.conf but not permissions, i.e. 644
[15:50:14] <BlackFrog|> umask is permission
[15:50:52] <BlackFrog|> 644 is (666 minus 022)
[15:51:15] <cilly> I have already set destroot_umask 022 but still I get 444.
[15:51:40] <BlackFrog|> pastebin your macports.conf
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[15:56:35] <cilly> BlackFrog|: http://dpaste.com/551941/
[15:59:13] <anddam> cilly: can you paste an ls output with 444?
[15:59:20] <BlackFrog|> Could macportsuser causing the problem?  In my conf it's set to nobody.
[16:01:26] <cilly> anddam: http://dpaste.com/551944/
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[16:02:37] <anddam> what's your configure line?
[16:02:52] <cilly> anddam: for macports?
[16:02:59] <anddam> yes
[16:03:54] <CIA-46> deric at macports dot org * r79294 /trunk/dports/python/py25-django/Portfile:
[16:03:54] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79294
[16:03:54] <CIA-46> Update to 1.3, took maintainership. Closes #28908.
[16:04:00] <cilly> anddam: http://dpaste.com/551947/
[16:06:11] <cilly> so, should I edit the makefile and change -m 444 to -m 644?
[16:06:42] <CIA-46> deric at macports dot org * r79295 /trunk/dports/python/py27-django/Portfile:
[16:06:42] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79295
[16:06:42] <CIA-46> Removed maintainer email address.
[16:06:45] <cilly> There was once an option to set default permissions in macports.conf in an earlier version.
[16:07:14] <CIA-46> deric at macports dot org * r79296 /trunk/dports/python/py26-django/Portfile:
[16:07:14] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79296
[16:07:14] <CIA-46> Removed maintainer email address.
[16:08:12] <anddam> I have some ports installing 444 some other 644, I guess it depends on augmented destroot phases
[16:08:49] <cilly> anddam: do you use svn? or 1.9.2?
[16:09:20] <anddam> svn
[16:09:27] <BlackFrog|> I use svn also
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[16:11:26] <anddam> cilly: ouy of curiosity can you uninstall a small port, and reinstall it with -d ?
[16:11:35] <cilly> anddam: do the following: port -qv installed requested| awk '{ print $1" "$2}' > ~/port_requested.txt && port -f uninstall installed && port clean --work --archive all && cat ~/port_requested.txt | xargs port -sp install        and see if you still have 444.
[16:11:56] <cilly> anddam: that's what I did just an hour ago
[16:12:03] <cilly> macports 1.9.2
[16:12:22] <cilly> anddam: if your 444 are gone and read now 644, then it was fixed somewhere in svn
[16:12:43] <anddam> so you're suggesting I reinstall 600 ports, among them qt4-mac and ghc, to check your issue?
[16:12:53] <anddam> I'm sorry but I need the computer for next hours
[16:13:07] <cilly> anddam: okay, then take one port which has 444 :)
[16:13:29] <BlackFrog|> a small one
[16:13:36] <cilly> probably not qt
[16:13:38] <cilly> ;)
[16:14:02] <BlackFrog|> Install pastebinit.  It's really small
[16:14:30] <anddam> save debug output
[16:14:31] <BlackFrog|> !info pastebinit
[16:14:54] <BlackFrog|> Isn't there a bot that can list info of a port?
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[16:15:55] <jmr_mp> why do you even need to write to anything in var/macports?
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[16:18:41] <anddam> that's why I asked what port was it
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[16:19:08] <anddam> var/macports should only pertain to mp installation
[16:23:00] <cilly> pastebinit has too much dependencies
[16:23:55] <cilly> well, I have crons running checking permissions and if there is something 444 it complains
[16:25:31] <anddam> why? I mean the stuff in shared/doc/ you paste is perfectly legit
[16:25:36] <anddam> share/*
[16:25:42] <anddam> pasted*
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[16:34:12] <mpbot> mf2k_mp is Frank (macsforever2000) and maintainer of py25-pmw, py26-usadel1, slimdata, and py27-pyqwt (of 14 total) and is in Boulder, CO; local time is Wed 08:36 MDT
[16:35:47] <cilly> I rather should patch the make file and others, too: http://dpaste.com/551959/
[16:36:39] <anddam> cilly: why do you care about the 444 thing at all?
[16:36:54] <cilly> cause permissions is important to me
[16:37:13] <anddam> usually the lesser the better, as long as it's working
[16:37:45] <anddam> you see to be asking for a 644 rather than 444 here, is that correct?
[16:38:03] <anddam> seem*
[16:38:24] <cilly> yes
[16:38:29] <anddam> jmr_mp: is  --with-install-user=root needed at configure?
[16:39:00] <anddam> cilly: then why are you asking for certain files to be 644?
[16:39:10] <cilly> anddam: probably not, but I have to make sure it is root, cause it is shared for several users
[16:39:30] <cilly> anddam: cause umask 022 is set?
[16:40:06] <anddam> that umask is for destrooted images, not for files you're installing from macports' sources
[16:40:45] <cilly> well, hardcoding permissions 444 and 555 is not nice at all, should be selectable by user
[16:40:45] <anddam> and Portfile specific instructions, like manually copying docs and README-like files, is up to the maintainer
[16:41:20] <anddam> cilly: 444 is nice, you may argue about the 555 but that's really up to what file it is
[16:41:47] <cilly> anddam: well I think 444 is not nice ;)
[16:41:50] <cilly> http://dpaste.com/551960/
[16:42:00] <anddam> security-wise?
[16:42:46] <cilly> at least there should be a configure option to set permissions
[16:42:53] <anddam> you may perform port actions without being installing user
[16:43:00] <anddam> feel free to fix according your needs and submit a patch or, better, drop a line in macporst-dev ml
[16:43:11] <anddam> jmr_mp: still there?
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[16:43:49] <cilly> anddam: well, I am writing a sed script to replace -m 444 with -m 644 and -m 555 with -m 755
[16:44:05] <anddam> regardless of what file it is?
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[16:44:27] <cilly> anddam: for all files in freshly unpacked macportsdir, yes
[16:45:02] <anddam> macportsdir==?
[16:49:09] <cilly> anddam: no, of the source
[16:49:19] <cilly> means any file of the above pasting
[16:50:29] <anddam> so you're going to, like, giving execution permissions to man pages
[16:50:35] <anddam> give*
[16:52:21] <anddam> s/execution/writing/
[16:53:31] <anddam> I cannot see how adding writing permission adds to security
[16:57:28] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r79297 /trunk/dports/security/skipfish/Portfile:
[16:57:28] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79297
[16:57:28] <CIA-46> skipfish: update to 1.92b
[17:01:14] <CIA-46> snc at macports dot org * r79298 /trunk/dports/devel/depot_tools/Portfile:
[17:01:14] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79298
[17:01:14] <CIA-46> depot_tools: update to 88335
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[17:14:11] <CIA-46> jeremyhu at macports dot org * r79299 /trunk/dports/x11/mesa/Portfile:
[17:14:11] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79299
[17:14:11] <CIA-46> mesa: Add dependency on python for parsing spec files #29737
[17:14:35] <cilly> anddam: for the root user?
[17:14:45] <cilly> anddam: for the user who owns the files?
[17:14:54] <anddam> yes and yes
[17:15:06] <cilly> security by obscurity to remove w for owner
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[17:16:05] <anddam> removing +w for owner isn't obscurity, change permissions at your will anyway
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[17:23:07] <anddam> finally, found the patch issue in wxwidgets-devel
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[17:23:23] <cilly> anddam: why does apple per default use 644 for man files?
[17:23:33] <anddam> cilly: why do you ask me?
[17:23:41] <cilly> and other *nixes?
[17:23:45] <anddam> ditto
[17:23:54] <cilly> well, and why doen't macports?
[17:24:41] <cilly> I have a script which checks default permissions, i.e. share, man and other paths and the default perm for files has to be 644 there.
[17:25:06] <cilly> and for dirs 755, where user is root and group is wheel
[17:25:14] <anddam> I'm sure you do, I don't see the added security in that
[17:25:23] <anddam> for *NIXes I guess it's a matter of habit
[17:25:38] <anddam> again it doesn't harm but doesn't add to security also, it's really up to you
[17:25:47] <anddam> it it bothers you go and patch it
[17:25:54] <cilly> yeah
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[18:13:14] <BlackFrog|> 300: You there, Ephialtes, may you live forever.
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[18:27:41] <Dynetrekk> hi, the package gcc_select used to contain a binary that would let you select gcc versions. now, port contents gcc_select just gives me:  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/402883/
[18:27:50] <Dynetrekk> also, the binary gcc_select has gone missing
[18:28:45] <aber> port select gcc
[18:29:05] <Dynetrekk> aber: oh, there is a new feature for that?
[18:29:11] <neverpanic> yes
[18:29:41] <Dynetrekk> cool. it would be nice if macports could somehow teach us noobs these things :P
[18:30:06] <neverpanic> There should be a changelog somewhere, but you're right, there could be some message when trying to use gcc_select
[18:30:40] <Dynetrekk> neverpanic: right. keep gcc_select around, and have it print "oh no I am obsolete"
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[18:35:25] <Dynetrekk> btw, it would be nice if the "select" featue would fix man pages, too. man gfortran does not work, for instance
[18:36:11] <BlackFrog|> Dynetrekk: did you create a ticket?
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[18:37:07] <Dynetrekk> BlackFrog|: no, I did not. should I?
[18:38:24] <BlackFrog|> I would be nice if you submit if something doesn't work
[18:38:54] <BlackFrog|> !bugs
[18:38:58] <BlackFrog|> !bug
[18:39:01] <BlackFrog|> !ticket
[18:39:01] <mpbot> incorrect usage, ask for help using 'mpbot: help ticket'
[18:39:08] <BlackFrog|> !help ticket
[18:39:09] <mpbot> trac module provides: !ticket, !faq, !guide
[18:39:45] <BlackFrog|> https://trac.macports.org/newticket
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[18:39:56] <Dynetrekk> BlackFrog|: will do
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[18:51:25] <BlackFrog|> What software/platform is mpbot running on?
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[18:54:53] <BlackFrog|> !port info pastebinit
[18:54:54] <mpbot> pastebinit @1.2 (net, python)
[18:54:55] <mpbot> Description:          pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a pastebin: a web site which allows its users to upload snippets of text for public viewing.
[18:54:55] <mpbot> Homepage:             http://www.stgraber.org/category/pastebinit
[18:54:55] <mpbot> Library Dependencies: py26-configobj
[18:54:55] <mpbot> Platforms:            darwin
[18:54:55] <mpbot> License:              unknown
[18:54:57] <mpbot> Maintainers:          mnick at macports dot org
[18:57:23] <anddam> BlackFrog|: it should be a mac of jmr's, idk about system version
[18:57:42] <anddam> it's a ruby bot, possibly ruby-rbot, it's in svn tree
[18:58:11] <BlackFrog|> Cool.  I am thinking about setting up a bot for a different channel.
[18:58:51] <BlackFrog|> Do you know of any bot that can run on Amazon EC2 or Google App Engine?
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[19:02:48] <neverpanic> BlackFrog|: It's in the repository in contrib, just check it out
[19:03:19] <BlackFrog|> Yes, I just found it.  Plus there's a port
[19:03:29] <neverpanic> I'm interested in how it gets the commit info that fast
[19:03:29] <BlackFrog|> !port info rb-bdb
[19:03:29] <mpbot> rb-bdb @0.6.5 (ruby, databases)
[19:03:30] <mpbot> Variants:             universal
[19:03:30] <mpbot> Description:          Ruby BDB is an interface for using Berkeley DB versions 2 and above. Developers may choose to store data in any of several different storage structures to satisfy the requirements of a particular application. The library includes support for B+tree, Hashes, and Fixed and Variable-Length Records.
[19:03:30] <mpbot> Homepage:             http://moulon.inra.fr/ruby/bdb.html
[19:03:30] <mpbot> Library Dependencies: ruby, db46
[19:03:32] <mpbot> Platforms:            darwin
[19:03:35] <mpbot> License:              unknown
[19:03:36] <mpbot> Maintainers:          nomaintainer at macports dot org
[19:03:49] <neverpanic> BlackFrog|: There's a port? What's the port name?
[19:04:37] <BlackFrog|> I was reading http://ruby-rbot.org/rbot-trac/wiki/MacOsX and I thought rb-bdb was the port.
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[19:10:40] <myw> is there a good reason that there's no select_perl port?
[19:10:59] <Dynetrekk> myw: port select --list perl?
[19:11:17] <Dynetrekk> (I was just told that the select_ ports are going to be removed)
[19:12:03] <myw> Warning: Unable to get active selected version: The specified group 'perl' does not exist.
[19:12:03] <myw> Error: The 'list' command failed: The specified group 'perl' does not exist.
[19:12:27] <myw> is this a problem with my versions?
[19:13:36] <Dynetrekk> myw: no, I was just guessing. perl doesn't have a select feature then
[19:15:07] <myw> Dynetrekk: ah, ok. It seems like it would be easy enough to write one, no? the portfile would look something similar to the select_python portfile, i assume. I'd be happy to do it, and submit a ticket, assuming I'm not stepping on toes
[19:15:48] <BlackFrog|> port select --list python works for me because I have python ports installed
[19:16:26] <Dynetrekk> myw: sounds good. I'm not the expert, but sounds good to me
[19:17:04] <myw> BlackFrog: do you have python_select also?
[19:17:31] <BlackFrog|> Yes I do
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[19:18:00] <BlackFrog|> http://pastie.org/2038638
[19:19:28] <BlackFrog|> http://pastie.org/2038642
[19:20:18] <myw> BlackFrog|: that works for me too; just not with perl, and there is no select_perl port
[19:21:08] <BlackFrog|> !port info perl_select
[19:21:08] <mpbot> Error: Port perl_select not found
[19:23:27] <BlackFrog|> !ticket 29531
[19:23:28] <mpbot> https://trac.macports.org/ticket/29531
[19:26:54] <myw> BlackFrog|: does this mean that I should instead edit the perl5 portfile, instead of suggesting the addition of a perl5_select?
[19:27:36] <BlackFrog|> neverpanic: on ticket #29531 someone has already suggested to leave the old _select binary around to warn users.
[19:27:53] <BlackFrog|> myw: I am not sure on what you should do.
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[19:29:42] <BlackFrog|> myw: What perl do you have installed?
[19:29:59] <myw> BlackFrog|: perl5, perl5.12
[19:30:04] <pixilla> BlackFrog: which pythons do you have installed?
[19:30:45] <myw> pixilla: python27, python_select
[19:30:54] <BlackFrog|> http://pastie.org/2038690
[19:31:46] <BlackFrog|> That is my python list
[19:31:55] <pixilla> $ cat /opt/local/etc/select/python/python26
[19:32:11] <pixilla> Do you see /opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/Headers?
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[19:32:52] <BlackFrog|> Yes
[19:32:56] <BlackFrog|> http://pastie.org/2038698
[19:33:47] <pixilla> I don
[19:34:07] <pixilla> I don't have that "Headers" path.
[19:34:12] <pixilla> ls /opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6
[19:34:21] <pixilla> Python    Resources bin       include   lib       share
[19:35:14] <BlackFrog|> Here is my content
[19:35:20] <BlackFrog|> http://pastie.org/2038708
[19:35:30] <pixilla> For now I have replaced the path with a "-" in prefix/etc/select/python/{python26,python27}
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[19:36:22] <BlackFrog|> pixilla, my headers is a link to the include/python2.6
[19:36:34] <myw> how can I add a portfile locally to try it out?
[19:36:46] <pixilla> Thanks BlackFrog: I have been searching for what Headers should link to. I figured that would be the path but now I know for sure.
[19:37:03] <BlackFrog|> myw you need to edit you source.conf
[19:37:16] <BlackFrog|> I will paste mines
[19:38:06] <pixilla> I don't see where the python26 and python27 Portfiles create that link. I see in post-destroot the delete "Headres".
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[19:38:50] <BlackFrog|> myw: check out my sources.conf http://pastebin.com/QDXRJs0K
[19:39:17] <BlackFrog|> The local needs to be listed before the remote
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[19:42:42] <myw> BlackFrog|:  Thanks!
[19:43:38] <pixilla> myw: add "[nosync]" to the end of your local_repos to avoid "port sync" from syncing your local repo.
[19:44:21] <pixilla> myw: Read BlackFrogs sources.conf line 13.
[19:46:29] <BlackFrog|> myw: You also have to do a port command to update the tree.  Pixilla, what is the command again?
[19:46:40] <BlackFrog|> Maybe it's the selfupdate command
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[19:46:58] <myw> BlackFrog|: that makes sense
[19:47:02] <pixilla> port sync
[19:47:22] <pixilla> port selfupdate will since tree after update port itself
[19:47:48] <BlackFrog|> http://pastie.org/2038761
[19:48:20] <pixilla> Looks like you are using svn so you can cd to repo and "svn up"
[19:51:36] <BlackFrog|> pixilla: I found the Header link.  It's in the base file for python_select.  http://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/dports/sysutils/python_select/files/base?rev=68800
[19:52:19] <BlackFrog|> Maybe it's the python_select that creates the link
[19:52:40] <BlackFrog|> not the Portfile itself
[19:53:45] <BlackFrog|> which would make sense becuase lets say I install python3.0.  I wouldn't want the installation of the port change my default python.
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[20:08:21] <pixilla> port contents python_select
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[20:09:29] <myw> BlackFrog|, pixilla: got it. there are two problems here. one, addressed by the tickets you linked, is the *_select binary, which is no longer the system of choice. that's not my problem.
[20:10:00] <pixilla> They are only etc conf files. I believe base is used for all version as the link name and then the targets are pulled from the python(version) files.
[20:10:10] <myw> BlackFrog|, pixilla: my problem is that for port select <foo> to work, there still need to be some files in place
[20:10:24] <myw> and the foo_select port puts them in place
[20:10:30] <myw> and there's still no perl_select port
[20:10:38] <myw> to set that up
[20:10:43] <myw> so that's what I'm writing
[20:10:51] <pixilla> My issue is at build time the python ports deleted Headers and didn't recreate it.
[20:11:14] <BlackFrog|> myw: ok.  but I thought you only have perl5.12 installed?
[20:11:20] <pixilla> myw: right, in prefix/etc/select/portname
[20:11:43] <myw> BlackFrog|: yes, but i want to use perl_select to select between that and the two system perls on 10.6
[20:11:56] <anddam> bye
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[20:42:41] <buttons> anyone know if a port for pdfinfo is out there?
[20:44:47] <gh1> xpdf, podofo both contain pdfinfo (or a pdfinfo)
[20:44:57] <gh1> also see xpdf-tools
[20:45:09] <buttons> ok thanks
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[23:50:43] <Dynetrekk> hi, trying to select gcc versions: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/403098/
[23:52:59] <Dynetrekk> it fails for gcc4.6





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