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[00:26:03] <EM03> can someone here check for what port install gst needs?
[00:26:09] <EM03> its downloading a shit ton of stuff man
[00:26:11] <EM03> python etc
[00:26:17] <EM03> why is gnu smalltalk needing all of this?
[00:26:21] <EM03> sounds crazy
[00:27:46] <Raim> EM03: think recursive and take a look at 'port rdeps gst'
[00:28:02] <Raim> EM03: for example it needs gtk2, which itself requires a lot of other ports
[00:28:21] <EM03> probably has to get it for the damn UI part of it or osmething
[00:28:25] <EM03> damn
[00:28:31] <EM03> well i guess I have to live it out
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[00:39:54] <geekosaur> any more you should assume that anything gnu requires everything else labeled gnu...
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[00:45:15] <EM03> geekosaur: its pulling in xorg and font this and font that like damn
[00:45:30] <EM03> all i wanted was some smalltalk interpreter i forgot it had all that gtk crap
[00:47:18] <Raim> EM03: http://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#x11-libs
[00:47:32] <Raim> I know this doesn't help, but at least explains a little bit what is going on :)
[00:48:14] <EM03> well out of the whole gst package all I plan to use is the interpreter
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[00:56:25] <oxseyn> Does anyone know how to get updatedb working from findutils?
[00:56:55] <Raim> EM03: in that case you should look at the variants the port provides
[00:57:08] <EM03> its already a wrap
[00:57:17] <EM03> just gonna let it go
[00:57:25] <EM03> its compiling gtk2 now, hopefully its near the end after that
[00:57:33] <geekosaur> optimist
[00:57:42] <Raim> EM03: 'sudo port install gst -gtk -tcltk' would reduce the required dependencies a lot (as you can see by 'port rdeps gst -gtk -tcltk')
[00:58:19] <EM03> you guys like smalltalk?
[01:02:06] <EM03> if so remember this
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[01:19:31] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79245 /trunk/dports/devel/ (glib2/Portfile glib2-devel/Portfile):
[01:19:32] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79245
[01:19:32] <CIA-46> glib2, glib2-devel: fix typo in ZLIB_CFLAGS
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[01:31:31] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79246 /trunk/dports/devel/ (glib2/Portfile glib2-devel/Portfile):
[01:31:31] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79246
[01:31:31] <CIA-46> glib2, glib2-devel: use verbose make output, to make logs more useful
[01:39:41] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79247 /trunk/dports/kde/skrooge/Portfile:
[01:39:41] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79247
[01:39:41] <CIA-46> skrooge: fix checksum section
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[01:55:12] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79248 /trunk/dports/kde/skrooge/Portfile:
[01:55:13] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79248
[01:55:13] <CIA-46> skrooge: fix whitespace
[01:55:52] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79249 /trunk/dports/kde/skrooge-devel/Portfile:
[01:55:53] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79249
[01:55:53] <CIA-46> skrooge-devel: fix whitespace
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[02:49:50] <jmr_mp> oxseyn: you were saying it needs gnu somethingorother?
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[03:34:10] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r79250 /trunk/dports/devel/ocaml-taglib/ (. Portfile):
[03:34:10] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79250
[03:34:10] <CIA-46> New port: ocaml-taglib, OCaml bindings for the C taglib library (#16189)
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[03:51:03] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79251
[03:51:03] <CIA-46> postgresql84-server: make the log subdir owned by postgres, not just the initial logfile (#24958)
[04:00:17] <CIA-46> jeremyhu at macports dot org * r79252 /trunk/dports/x11/mesa/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[04:00:17] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79252
[04:00:17] <CIA-46> mesa: Bump to 7.10.2
[04:00:17] <CIA-46> Includes applegl changes through ca9ab0a6a1e469ed418a2f71a4c4843226d657d3
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[04:21:14] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r79253 /trunk/dports/devel/libdevil/Portfile:
[04:21:14] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79253
[04:21:14] <CIA-46> libdevil: enable opengl (#24964), add X11 deps since it uses them even if told not to, add sdl variant
[04:30:06] <CIA-46> jeremyhu at macports dot org * r79254 /trunk/dports/x11/mesa/ (Portfile files/mesa-7.10.2-iglx.patch):
[04:30:06] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79254
[04:30:06] <CIA-46> mesa: Fix +iglx variant to actually build indirect rather than direct
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[05:06:22] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r79255 /trunk/dports/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[05:06:22] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79255
[05:06:22] <CIA-46> update maven ports to recommend 'port select' (see #27946)
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[05:35:58] <CIA-46> jeremyhu at macports dot org * r79256 /trunk/dports/x11/mesa/ (Portfile files/mesa-7.2-drm_headers.patch):
[05:35:58] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79256
[05:35:58] <CIA-46> mesa: Remove unneeded drm_headers patch
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[06:04:48] <KaMii> why does macports grab gdbm from facebook?
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[06:21:25] <jmr_mp> because it has the lowest ping for you
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[07:42:04] <CIA-46> jeremyhu at macports dot org * r79257 /trunk/dports/x11/mesa/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[07:42:04] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79257
[07:42:04] <CIA-46> mesa: Fix linking of libOSMesa in +iglx variant
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[08:55:56] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79258 /trunk/dports/lang/vala/Portfile:
[08:55:57] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79258
[08:55:57] <CIA-46> vala: update to 1.12.1; see #29733
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[11:35:58] <CIA-46> jmr at macports dot org * r79259 /trunk/base/src/port/port.tcl:
[11:35:58] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79259
[11:35:58] <CIA-46> allow abbreviation of actions (#27242)
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[11:54:46] <CIA-46> stromnov at macports dot org * r79260 /trunk/dports/python/ (py26-redis/Portfile py27-redis/Portfile):
[11:54:46] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79260
[11:54:46] <CIA-46> py2(6|7)-redis: update to version 2.4.3
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[12:44:59] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79261 /trunk/dports/textproc/recoll/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
[12:44:59] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79261
[12:45:00] <CIA-46> recoll: new port, version 1.15.9; see #29722
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[14:48:42] <epic> I have upgraded my OS to 10.7, and now macport reports all my ports as outdated, how do i mend this without recompiling every port?
[14:51:08] <epic> i get: "(platform darwin 10 != darwin 11)", but every installed port i have tested works
[15:00:40] <Sebastian_> epic: judging from the past you always had to recompile everything for an OS upgrade
[15:01:08] <Sebastian_> just as a safety precaution
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[15:18:47] <jmr_mp> as per the Migration link in the topic
[15:19:59] <jmr_mp> it's not just a matter of the existing stuff working, but problems arising from linking code built for different deployment targets
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[15:33:08] <epic> ok thanks
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[16:03:44] <CIA-46> singingwolfboy at macports dot org * r79262 /trunk/dports/finance/bitcoin/Portfile:
[16:03:44] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79262
[16:03:44] <CIA-46> bitcoin: fixes #29736
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[17:31:44] <EM03> how can I get the newest version of a package?
[17:31:57] <EM03> see what the newest version is
[17:37:02] <fink> EM03: check the website
[17:37:37] <EM03> damn
[17:37:43] <EM03> the gnu smalltalk is so out of date
[17:37:49] <EM03> its using like a 2007 version
[17:37:56] <fink> EM03: or: # port list outdated
[17:38:07] <EM03> i installed it
[17:38:10] <EM03> its that version
[17:38:35] <EM03> that sucks
[17:38:42] <EM03> looks like I will have to compile myself
[17:39:17] <Raim> you could submit a patch for the Portfile
[17:39:56] <Raim> or ask the maintainer for an update
[17:40:18] <EM03> another question, gtk apps on OSX is there a good way of doing it?
[17:40:27] <EM03> i dont really want to run with x window system etc
[17:41:51] <fink> EM03: i use x11.app
[17:42:05] <EM03> so you use x11?
[17:42:08] <EM03> for gtk apps?
[17:42:29] <Raim> there is a quartz backend for gtk, but that doesn't work with every application
[17:42:42] <EM03> yea thats what someone recommended to me
[17:42:56] <EM03> what is a quartz backend? there is just carbon and cocoa right?
[17:42:57] <Raim> personally I use XQuartz from http://xquartz.macosforge.org
[17:43:17] <Raim> which means I am running a X server for gtk windows
[17:44:08] <EM03> I'm confused on why its for quartz
[17:48:31] <Raim> EM03: Quartz is also often referred to as Core Graphics, i.e. the Mac OS X Graphics API
[17:48:55] <EM03> so why wouldn't it directly talk to cocoa instead of that?
[17:50:28] <Raim> gtk2 +quartz does that - but it's preliminary for years. as far as I know nobody is actively working on this anymore
[17:50:48] <EM03> I see
[17:50:50] <EM03> bummmer
[17:51:02] <EM03> would be easier to just rewrite the gui in cocoa probably
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[17:55:47] <mpbot> anddam is and.damore and maintainer of libharu, libticalcs2, irsim, and lua-xavante (of 35 total)
[17:55:48] <anddam> hi
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[18:05:28] <mpbot> mf2k_mp is Frank (macsforever2000) and maintainer of py27-pmw, bacula, py26-pmw, and py25-pmw (of 14 total) and is in Boulder, CO; local time is Tue 10:08 MDT
[18:08:23] <anddam> can I install meta package gimp with gimp2-devel rather than gimp2?
[18:09:38] <anddam> oh, reading the Portfile port gimp isn't tied to gimp2 at all
[18:10:57] <anddam> icns-gimp need a patch
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[18:25:04] <CIA-46> and.damore at macports dot org * r79263 /trunk/dports/graphics/fontforge/Portfile:
[18:25:04] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79263
[18:25:04] <CIA-46> removed "_0" from dist_subdir
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[20:28:25] <echosa> Ok. Something is up with my emacs installation. I had emacs-app installed, then installed emacs. Now I get errors about arch-dependent directories not existing
[20:28:38] <echosa> And arch independent directories not existing
[20:30:11] <echosa> In /opt/local/var/macports/software/emacs-app/23.2_3+fullscreen/Applications/MacPorts/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin
[20:30:51] <echosa> Even after I uninstalled both emacs and emacs-app, uninstalled the leaves, ran a port clean all, then installed emacs again
[20:31:39] <echosa> I'm very confused and frustrated :-P any ideas why emacs is looking for these directories'
[20:32:06] <echosa> FYI: I'm even running `emacs -q?
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[20:33:24] <echosa> which emacs shows /opt/local/bin/emacs as the default emacs
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[20:34:01] <drkp> What exactly is happening?
[20:35:18] <echosa> I run emacs -q, get to the scratch buffer. Everything *seems* fine, but in my messages buffer, and even in the terminal after I exit, I see the following:
[20:36:29] <echosa> Warning: arch-dependent data dir (/opt/local/var/macports/software/emacs-app/23.2_3+fullscreen/Applications/MacPorts/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/) does not exist. Warning: arch-independent data dir (/opt/local/var/macports/software/emacs-app/23.2_3+fullscreen/Applications/MacPorts/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/etc/) does not exist. Error: charsets directory
[20:36:29] <echosa> (/opt/local/var/macports/software/emacs-app/23.2_3+fullscreen/Applications/MacPorts/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/etc/charsets) does not exist. Emacs will not function correctly without the character map files. Please check your installation!
[20:36:52] <echosa> Of course, each warning/error is on it's own line
[20:37:00] <echosa> Not sure why it pasted to one line
[20:37:09] <echosa> In my irc client
[20:37:14] <drkp> And you don't have emacs-app installed?
[20:37:31] <echosa> Not anymore, but I was getting that error even when I did
[20:37:58] <drkp> (not that it matters, it should be possible to have both emacs and emacs-app installed; I do.)
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[20:39:39] <echosa> I'm thinking that dir got compiled into the binary, due to some greps I've done
[20:39:44] <echosa> And I don't know why
[20:40:26] <echosa>  Even after uninstalling and cleaning the emacs and emacs-app ports, then reinstalling emacs its still wanting that dir
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[20:42:04] <echosa> Don't see it when I sudo emacs
[20:42:11] <echosa> Must be an environment thing
[20:42:18] <echosa> But not sure where
[20:43:33] <drkp> Tried invoking it as /opt/local/bin/emacs? (just to be sure it's not actually starting some other emacs somewhere)
[20:44:04] <echosa> Yes
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[20:47:28] <echosa> Ok system emacs (/usr/bin/emacs) gives me the first two warnings, but not the rest
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[20:47:45] <echosa> Even when run with -q
[20:52:57] <drkp> You've got me stumped on that one.
[20:53:10] <echosa> Right?
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[21:37:07] <CIA-46> l2g at macports dot org * r79264 /trunk/dports/perl/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[21:37:07] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79264
[21:37:07] <CIA-46> p5-io-compress, p5-compress-raw-{bzip2,zlib}: upgrade the IO::Compress trinity
[21:37:07] <CIA-46> to 2.035 (openmaintainer update)
[21:41:05] <CIA-46> l2g at macports dot org * r79265 /trunk/dports/perl/p5-test-tcp/Portfile:
[21:41:05] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79265
[21:41:05] <CIA-46> p5-test-tcp: new version 1.13
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[21:57:20] <CIA-46> ram at macports dot org * r79266 /trunk/dports/python/py31-scipy/ (. Portfile):
[21:57:20] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79266
[21:57:20] <CIA-46> python/py31-scipy: new port
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[22:23:45] <CIA-46> ram at macports dot org * r79267 /trunk/dports/python/py32-scipy/ (. Portfile):
[22:23:45] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79267
[22:23:45] <CIA-46> python/py32-scipy: new port
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[22:34:22] <CIA-46> robitaille at macports dot org * r79268 /trunk/dports/python/ (py25-aplpy/Portfile py26-aplpy/Portfile py27-aplpy/Portfile):
[22:34:22] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79268
[22:34:22] <CIA-46> py*-aplpy: updated version to 0.9.6
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[23:01:49] <CIA-46> ryandesign at macports dot org * r79269 /trunk/dports/sysutils/duply/Portfile:
[23:01:50] <CIA-46> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/79269
[23:01:50] <CIA-46> duply: maintainer update to 1.5.5.1; see #29738
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[23:44:13] <quotemstr> Why do I need to build gtk2 just so I can get pdflatex?
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[23:46:08] <anddam> quotemstr: rdeps it
[23:46:41] <drkp> It needs poppler as its pdf library, and that requires gtk2
[23:47:09] <anddam> you can build poppler+quartz
[23:47:24] <anddam> still gtk2 tho'
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