December 20, 2013 
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Grats.[05:13:49] <ra4king> and yup[05:14:46] <ra4king> and what the fuck, my 1TB hard drive is finally running out of room[05:14:49] <ra4king> < 20GB left![05:14:50] <ra4king> wat[05:17:58] *** stroop has joined #lwjgl[05:18:32] <djdduty> ra4king: I updated the water material, it looks better now.[05:18:39] <djdduty> ra4king: animation-wise[05:18:45] <djdduty> you may have to rotate to see it right, though[05:23:33] *** stroop has quit IRC[05:36:25] *** lrh9_ has quit IRC[05:40:33] *** stroop has joined #lwjgl[05:44:52] *** stroop has quit IRC[05:50:36] *** djdduty has quit IRC[05:53:45] *** Epowerj has quit IRC[06:16:07] *** Agro has joined #lwjgl[06:17:33] *** djdoody has joined #lwjgl[06:21:12] *** meoblast001 has quit IRC[06:23:17] *** stroop has joined #lwjgl[06:28:29] *** Agro has quit IRC[06:28:46] *** stroop has quit IRC[06:35:45] *** CharlieM75 has quit IRC[06:37:51] *** BlueThen has quit IRC[06:38:02] *** BlueThen has joined #lwjgl[06:45:49] *** stroop has joined 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IRC[12:33:31] *** heyimscott has joined #lwjgl[12:35:25] *** khazrak has quit IRC[12:47:02] <ra4king> tommo_: whoa! hi![12:51:05] <tommo_> ra4king: hi![12:51:21] <tommo_> I'm doing THINGS[12:51:32] <ra4king> interesting THINGS?[12:51:39] <tommo_> virtual reality things[12:51:44] <ra4king> :O[12:51:54] <tommo_> namely I was looking into an official Oculus VR minecraft port[12:52:06] <tommo_> when, sad to say, lwjgl stumbled on my way :P[12:52:19] <tommo_> basically, I need to be able to choose the preferred screen[12:52:29] <tommo_> so users can use the rift without mirroring[12:52:39] <tommo_> *the preferred screen where to set the game fullscreen[12:52:44] <tommo_> ie. screen 3[12:52:59] <tommo_> I know this is pretty easy to do and I did it on mac/win/linux in C++[12:53:14] <ra4king> with LWJGL 2.X, there's no way of doing that without using AWT[12:53:29] <tommo_> yeah, I wouldn't like to[12:53:37] <tommo_> btw I don't want multiple monitors, just 1[12:53:40] <tommo_> on another screen :)[12:53:47] <tommo_> I saw the relevant initialization code[12:53:51] <ra4king> LWJGL 3.0 is under heavy development with a new API that supports multiple monitors and windows[12:54:01] <tommo_> it just needs to say "screenN" instead of "0"[12:54:17] <tommo_> don't need multiple anything :)[12:54:27] <ra4king> you have multiple "monitors"/outputs right?[12:54:34] <ra4king> :D[12:54:35] *** Dessimat0r has quit IRC[12:54:38] <tommo_> yeah but the game is still single![12:54:46] <ra4king> of course[12:54:50] <tommo_> I just want it to run fullscreen on monitor #3 instead of #1[12:55:11] <ra4king> yeah, can't without AWT at the moment :/[12:55:36] <tommo_> I'm sure you can :P[12:55:45] <tommo_> of course patching lwjgl![12:55:46] <ra4king> sure, write your own native code :D[12:55:51] <tommo_> yeah[12:55:51] <ra4king> genius[12:56:07] <tommo_> do you know how to build lwgjl from source?[12:56:26] <tommo_> well, I also wanted to ask if there was an easier way but looks like nope :P[12:56:36] *** Dessimat0r has joined #lwjgl[12:57:32] <ra4king> yeah building LWJGL is a bit....complicated hehe[12:58:23] <ra4king> all I know is that a lot of classes are generated by the build file[12:58:54] <ra4king> tommo_: it uses Ant[12:59:30] <tommo_> ok, I found a line in org_lwjgl_opengl_Display.m that would do what I need for Mac OSX if changed[12:59:42] <tommo_> I would just need to bring that number down there![12:59:52] <tommo_> probably from Display's constructor[13:00:00] <tommo_> or maybe just Display.setMonitor(n)[13:00:12] <tommo_> and maybe also a handy Display.getMonitorCount()[13:00:21] <tommo_> yeah[13:00:43] <tommo_> I got the first 2 steps to work but the 3rd errors like mad[13:01:15] <ra4king> sounds good :)[13:01:25] <tommo_> well not 100% good :P[13:01:26] <ra4king> and what 3rd step?[13:01:32] <tommo_> • ant generate-all[13:01:32] <tommo_> • ant compile[13:01:32] <tommo_> • ant compile_native[13:01:39] *** Sopheria has joined #lwjgl[13:01:49] <tommo_> last one, it dies because it like, forgets to resolve a macro[13:02:22] <tommo_> I forced it to resolve but it keeps not making sense, there is no CoreFoundation/CoreFoundation.h file on my system[13:02:44] * ra4king has no clue :D[13:02:47] <tommo_> hehe[13:02:50] <tommo_> don't worry :P[13:02:55] <ra4king> tommo_: here: http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/CF/CF-476.13/CoreFoundation.h[13:03:07] <Sopheria> HEY RA4KING[13:03:12] <ra4king> hey Sopheria[13:03:14] <tommo_> yeah, I have one of those, but that's not supposed to be in that folder :([13:03:14] <Sopheria> HOW GOES THE DIET[13:03:22] <tommo_> hey![13:03:35] <tommo_> well, can you point me to someone that might know then? :P[13:04:07] <ra4king> tommo_: Spasi is the main LWJGL dev, however he doesn't come in this channel often sadly[13:04:11] <tommo_> anyway this is like the smallestest of the things, but I really don't want the game to require players to mirror their display[13:04:19] <ra4king> tommo_: Mazon is also very helpful, but never talks :P[13:04:25] <tommo_> lol[13:04:26] <tommo_> hmm[13:04:26] <ra4king> tommo_: maybe MatthiasM?[13:04:36] <tommo_> well those are useful pointers![13:04:50] <ra4king> Sopheria: why all caps?[13:04:55] <ra4king> and great, thanks[13:05:01] <Sopheria> you'll never believe it[13:05:02] <tommo_> meanwhile I'll just fiddle[13:05:14] <ra4king> tommo_: yeah I feel bad for being useless :X[13:05:17] <Sopheria> my keyboard is missing it's caps lock key, yet it was turned on[13:05:23] <Sopheria> (i removed it)[13:05:47] <ra4king> tommo_: but I have extremely little experience with Mac's[13:05:54] * ra4king dislikes Apple[13:06:03] <MatthiasM> ra4king: ?[13:06:20] <ra4king> MatthiasM: can you help tommo_ with his problem?[13:07:41] <MatthiasM> and that would be?[13:08:06] <ra4king> MatthiasM: well uh you've been in this channel for the entire convo, pretty sure you can see it :D[13:08:08] * ra4king pokes tommo_[13:08:12] * ra4king runs away[13:08:28] <MatthiasM> well - I don't do native coding on Mac[13:08:42] <ra4king> yeah, can't think of any sane person who does[13:08:48] <ra4king> :D[13:09:04] <MatthiasM> same with windoof[13:09:39] <tommo_> hey![13:10:06] <tommo_> I do native coding on Mac with Visual Studio on Paralles :P[13:10:10] <ra4king> wait wat[13:10:22] <ra4king> tommo_: that's actually pretty funny haha[13:10:45] <tommo_> MatthiasM: I ended up here because I wanted to ask what's the best way to select the monitor where to place the fullscreen window![13:11:06] <tommo_> ra4king: yeah, but I really like OSX, except for XCode[13:11:07] <MatthiasM> no idea[13:11:10] <tommo_> VS is just that better[13:11:22] <tommo_> hmm[13:11:24] <ra4king> best monitor to select is always the first one[13:11:31] <ra4king> then add the option to change in the menu[13:11:37] <tommo_> yes, did that[13:11:45] <tommo_> I need to actually implement the change now :P[13:12:08] <tommo_> MatthiasM: do you know how to build libjgl on mac?[13:12:16] <tommo_> I tried but I'm getting errors[13:12:31] <MatthiasM> why should I - a) I don't have a Mac b) I don't code on Mac[13:12:39] <MatthiasM> c) I don't like Mac[13:13:07] <tommo_> well you're a dev, doesn't hurt to ask[13:13:23] <tommo_> sorry if I might have implied that you are a mac user :P[13:13:53] <ra4king> tommo_: googling different lwjgl resources, you need your platform's native compiler to compile the JNI. you sure it's all there and in the path?[13:23:06] *** fella5s has quit IRC[13:25:20] <tommo_> ra4king: thanks![13:25:28] <tommo_> well, we managed to compile it with Grum[13:25:36] <ra4king> good ol Grum[13:25:36] <tommo_> basically the ant script was just old[13:25:41] <tommo_> didn't account for 10.8[13:25:53] * ra4king blames Apple[13:26:29] <ra4king> anyway, I'm off to bed[13:26:35] <ra4king> it's 7:30am[13:26:36] <ra4king> :D[13:28:33] *** monty_slate has joined #lwjgl[13:30:46] <monty_slate> hello[13:31:00] <ra4king> monty_slate: goodnight[13:31:08] <ra4king> pulled off an all nighter[13:31:21] <ra4king> monty_slate: 7:30am in east coast heh[13:31:26] <ra4king> so yeah, enjoy work as I go to sleep :D[13:31:45] <monty_slate> im inthailand[13:31:48] <monty_slate> scro[13:31:55] <monty_slate> its 730p[13:32:44] <ra4king> monty_slate: oh yeah you did tell me that[13:32:56] <ra4king> monty_slate: nice. hope you enjoy your time there[13:32:56] *** Sopheria has quit IRC[13:33:07] <ra4king> monty_slate: btw, I got a job as an IT assistant![13:33:16] <ra4king> unfortunately it's at my dad's workplace[13:33:43] <ra4king> hell I'll go to church, don't care[13:33:51] *** Sopheria has joined #lwjgl[13:34:21] <MatthiasM> ra4king: lol[13:35:17] <ra4king> alright, goodnight :D[13:41:38] *** julian__ has quit IRC[13:43:43] *** julian__ has joined #lwjgl[14:13:26] *** stroop has quit IRC[14:32:10] *** monty_slate has left #lwjgl[14:34:20] *** LepraHorst has joined #lwjgl[14:36:57] *** Irrelium has joined #lwjgl[14:40:19] *** Irrelium has quit IRC[14:40:41] *** Tonux has 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