December 12, 2013 
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December 12, 2013 [00:00:27] *** fella5s has joined #lwjgl[00:01:37] *** fella6s has joined #lwjgl[00:03:05] *** ksclarke has quit IRC[00:05:31] *** fella5s has quit IRC[00:11:37] *** djdduty_ has joined #lwjgl[00:11:50] *** djdduty has quit IRC[00:13:34] *** void256 has joined #lwjgl[00:16:31] <lwjglbot> lwjglforum: Re: [BUG] OSX: app appears 'above' the applet window <http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,5267.msg28107.html#msg28107>[00:16:37] <void256> anyone ever seen a java.lang.IllegalArgumentException at java.nio.Buffer.position ?[00:17:15] <void256> I'm somewhat certain it happens in a vertexBuffer.position(0); call[00:17:21] <void256> which doesn't make sense at all[00:17:35] <void256> (and its not happening for me but for someone else)[00:31:49] *** Norbo11 has quit IRC[00:47:17] <void256> I think I might have found the issue[00:47:43] <void256> it was eventually already fixed by someone else :)[00:47:54] <void256> open source is pretty cool sometime[00:47:56] <void256> :D[00:48:05] <void256> now I wait for the confirmation of the tester[00:48:07] <void256> thanks ^^[00:48:16] *** void256 has quit IRC[00:52:36] *** Hanack has joined #lwjgl[00:54:12] *** Hanack1 has quit IRC[01:00:35] *** djdduty_ has quit IRC[01:07:05] *** ksclarke has joined #lwjgl[01:09:13] *** ruben011 has joined #lwjgl[01:09:18] *** ruben01 has quit IRC[01:22:59] *** bgilb has joined #lwjgl[01:39:09] *** Gooogy has quit IRC[01:53:58] *** steve___ has joined #lwjgl[01:54:21] <nbf> wow GM is killing off holden!?![02:09:02] *** Sopheria has quit IRC[02:15:06] *** Sopheria has joined #lwjgl[02:19:31] *** fella6s has quit IRC[03:04:38] *** Raven67854 has quit IRC[03:07:31] *** davedes has joined #lwjgl[03:08:32] *** davedes has quit IRC[03:08:42] *** davedes has joined #lwjgl[03:09:14] *** DrShoggoth has quit IRC[03:17:04] *** Goddesen_ has quit IRC[03:22:27] *** ruben011 has quit IRC[03:24:48] *** Jonas__ is now known as MrBushido[03:25:33] *** Jonas__ has joined #lwjgl[03:28:36] *** nephilim_ has quit IRC[03:37:11] <monty_hall> I <3 weak references[03:44:25] *** DrShoggoth has joined #lwjgl[03:51:45] *** jjs has quit IRC[04:09:16] <ra4king> monty_hall: fuck you[04:13:21] *** Irrelium has quit IRC[04:13:41] <monty_hall> stfu[04:14:27] * monty_hall shoves a large flaccid penis into ra4king's mouth[04:14:38] <monty_hall> you know, it's not gay when you receive[04:14:57] <monty_hall> a bj that is :P[04:23:24] <monty_hall> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2exnbRb71ql2bvuo1_400.jpg[04:24:49] <nbf> lol[04:28:53] <ra4king> monty_hall: ew[04:29:15] <ra4king> you guys are hilarious :D[04:31:46] *** meoblast001 has quit IRC[04:48:11] <lwjglbot> lwjglforum: Re: How to connect OpenGL and OpenCL ? <http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,5266.msg28108.html#msg28108>[04:58:21] *** ivan\ has quit IRC[04:59:31] *** ivan\ has joined #lwjgl[05:17:25] *** djdoody has joined #lwjgl[05:25:31] *** davedes has quit IRC[05:46:38] *** davedes has joined #lwjgl[05:49:02] *** davedes has 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jean_ has joined #lwjgl[16:38:40] *** darkfrog has quit IRC[16:47:08] *** darkfrog has joined #lwjgl[17:00:28] <nbf> anyone know of something like a java2d replacement library?[17:00:49] <nbf> I'm thinking about writing one with skia[17:01:04] *** davedes has joined #lwjgl[17:05:05] <nbf> I really !@#!@# hate having to deal with gyp and the other stupid google bullshit with their libs: https://sites.google.com/site/skiadocs/user-documentation/quick-start-guides/building-with-skia[17:08:25] <MatthiasM2> build system generator?[17:08:51] <MatthiasM2> what's next - a system generator to create a build system generator?[17:08:57] <nbf> yeah it's awful[17:09:06] <nbf> I really like the cmake approach because it's simple[17:09:09] <nbf> not this stupid bullshit[17:09:18] <MatthiasM2> http://www.marketingapocalypse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/There__s_Always_a_Bigger_Fish_by_kingboo7.jpg[17:10:05] <nbf> heh[17:11:46] <mr_monty> oh ninja please[17:11:53] <mr_monty> interesting tool name[17:12:08] <nbf> I actually like ninja[17:12:15] <nbf> it's just a really fast version of make[17:12:22] <mr_monty> stealthy[17:12:26] <mr_monty> but deadly[17:12:36] <nbf> for a full engine build + various services modules it cuts out build time in half[17:12:44] <nbf> *our[17:13:04] <nbf> gyp: third_party/externals/angle/src/build_angle.gypi not found (cwd: /home/tmccrary/skia/skia-read-only) while reading includes of gyp/angle.gyp while loading dependencies of gyp/gpu.gyp while loading dependencies of gyp/skia_lib.gyp while loading dependencies of gyp/most.gyp while loading dependencies of gyp/everything.gyp while loading dependencies of skia.gyp while trying to load skia.gyp[17:13:22] <nbf> oops[17:16:03] <MatthiasM2> ehh[17:22:39] <nbf> and of course it only builds static libraries[17:26:48] <mr_monty> looks like they made performance enhancements to go: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/05/googles-programming-language-go-gets-a-big-speed-boost/[17:27:06] <mr_monty> written in may[17:27:26] <mr_monty> the article that is..[17:27:56] <mr_monty> one thing I don't mind is eliminating inheritance.[17:28:21] <mr_monty> anymore it's been composition and interfaces[17:28:33] <mr_monty> I've been stung by tight couple one too many times.[17:29:01] <mr_monty> I extend when it's obvious and tight coupling isn't going to be a problem.[17:30:23] *** Norbo11 has joined #lwjgl[17:37:00] <mr_monty> MatthiasM2: did you say that weak references won't be reclaimed under a debugger?[17:37:37] <MatthiasM2> mr_monty: no, just that attaching a debugger means you will be able to look at all local variables[17:37:50] <MatthiasM2> so the hotspot can't optimize locale variables away[17:38:05] <mr_monty> okay[17:49:02] *** lrh9 has joined #lwjgl[17:53:10] *** beamery has joined #lwjgl[17:54:25] *** Raven67854 has joined #lwjgl[17:56:32] <nbf> oh snap skia can render svg directly[17:56:34] <nbf> YES[17:57:04] <nbf> I bet that's going to destroy svgsalamander/batik with their java2d rendering[17:59:03] *** SoniEx has joined #lwjgl[17:59:04] *** SoniEx2 has quit IRC[17:59:04] *** SoniEx is now known as SoniEx2[18:18:14] *** SoniEx2 has quit IRC[18:19:05] *** ra4king has quit IRC[18:32:37] <nbf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw61gCe2oqI&feature=youtu.be[18:32:41] <nbf> looks cool[18:38:23] *** ra4king has joined #lwjgl[18:39:15] *** ra4king has quit IRC[18:39:44] *** ra4king has joined #lwjgl[18:39:50] *** aho has joined #lwjgl[18:52:22] <ra4king> aha![18:52:34] <ra4king> I've finally reached the point where I need a vertex-batching class[18:52:39] <ra4king> something like SpriteBatch[18:52:45] * ra4king creates his own SpriteBatch[18:53:36] <ra4king> to minimize the number of draw calls, group together objects of similar shaders + similar attributes + similar uniforms[18:54:26] <mr_monty> quiet you[18:54:31] <mr_monty> or you will be punished[18:54:32] <ra4king> mr_monty: calm your tits[18:54:37] * ra4king lactates mr_monty[18:54:38] <mr_monty> no[18:54:41] <mr_monty> you're the one w/ the tits[18:54:47] <mr_monty> mr moob :P[18:54:53] <ra4king> mr_monty: haha! not anymore I do not![18:55:39] *** MatthiasM has joined #lwjgl[18:55:39] *** MatthiasM has joined #lwjgl[19:00:09] <nbf> mmm pepper jack cheese egg sandwich[19:00:43] *** davedes has quit IRC[19:02:03] *** Unimatrix325 has joined #lwjgl[19:02:05] <mr_monty> you mean sammich[19:07:14] <mr_monty> beotch[19:13:55] *** davedes has joined #lwjgl[19:23:46] *** beamery has left #lwjgl[19:26:11] *** SoniEx2 has joined #lwjgl[19:28:28] *** Jeanne-Kamikaze has joined #lwjgl[19:30:11] *** davedes has quit IRC[19:31:55] *** darkfrog has quit IRC[19:33:32] *** davedes has joined #lwjgl[19:52:55] *** Tonux has joined #lwjgl[19:59:32] *** Uni325 has joined #lwjgl[19:59:52] *** Unimatrix325 has quit IRC[20:06:16] *** Uni325 has quit IRC[20:06:26] *** Unimatrix325 has joined #lwjgl[20:11:59] *** djdduty has joined #lwjgl[20:19:46] *** ZeuPiark has joined #lwjgl[20:29:29] *** patchwork has joined #lwjgl[20:31:26] <patchwork> Hello #lwjgl. I see some reference in the wiki to some native approach to having a resizable awt frame (available in nightly builds?), but the wiki shows only the workaround[20:31:34] <patchwork> Any updates on that?[20:31:54] <MatthiasM> Display.setResizable(true)[20:32:03] <MatthiasM> and Display.wasResized()[20:32:28] <patchwork> MatthiasM: Ah, so it is released?[20:32:37] <MatthiasM> since ages :)[20:32:58] <patchwork> Awesome news[20:39:00] *** ZeuPiark has quit IRC[20:43:01] *** kappaOne has joined #lwjgl[20:50:15] *** ZeuPiark has joined #lwjgl[20:55:13] <patchwork> Alright, my window is resizable! Thanks[20:55:28] <patchwork> Now how do I receive an event about it?[20:55:38] <patchwork> Is there a "resized" event of some kind?[20:56:12] <patchwork> Kind of like Keyboard.next() maybe[20:56:59] <MatthiasM> see above![20:57:18] <patchwork> Aha! got it[21:00:11] <nbf> I really hate the skia maintainers[21:00:12] <nbf> what assholes[21:00:19] <MatthiasM> ?[21:00:42] <nbf> they assume you're using their build system in your project[21:02:10] <MatthiasM> sounds like Maven[21:02:24] <nbf> yeah maven is a legitmate standard[21:02:29] <MatthiasM> no[21:03:12] <nbf> but even then, libraries built with maven don't require you to use maven after they're build[21:03:16] <nbf> *built[21:07:26] *** Unimatrix325 has quit IRC[21:10:53] <ra4king> oh patchwork[21:14:13] <patchwork> ra4king: Yeah?[21:14:26] *** Unimatrix325 has joined #lwjgl[21:14:53] * ra4king patches patchwork[21:15:14] <MatthiasM> patchwork: /ignore ra4king :P[21:15:28] <ra4king> MatthiasM: aw you're not fun[21:15:32] <ra4king> no*[21:16:06] <MatthiasM> *muahahahaha*[21:16:15] *** mr_monty has quit IRC[21:18:05] *** patchwork1 has joined #lwjgl[21:18:09] *** patchwork has quit IRC[21:19:21] *** patchwork1 has quit IRC[21:19:44] *** patchwork has joined #lwjgl[21:24:17] *** patchwork has quit IRC[21:24:19] *** Unimatrix325 has quit IRC[21:25:15] <ra4king> MatthiasM: hey I want to talk OpenGL stuff[21:25:36] <MatthiasM> glStuff(GL_JUST_DO_IT);[21:25:43] <ra4king> now that I have finally been able to render 1.6 million cubes at 60 fps, I want to do more advanced stuff[21:26:02] <MatthiasM> 1.61 million cubes :P[21:26:03] <ra4king> I'm thinking of making a small networked multiplayer 3D game[21:26:46] <ra4king> thinking about draw calls: the best way to reduce draw calls is to batch triangles of similar shaders, similar attributes, and similar uniforms[21:27:00] <MatthiasM> yes[21:27:21] <MatthiasM> but draw calls in GL are not as expensive as in D3D[21:27:28] <ra4king> considering each "sprite" (thinking of SpriteBatch) needs different attributes and uniforms, I don't see how I would do this[21:27:41] <ra4king> they're not?[21:28:04] <MatthiasM> put the per sprite data in an separate attribute stream and reduce it's frequency[21:28:15] <ra4king> actually I've got the perfect test to see how draw calls affect performance[21:28:18] <MatthiasM> OpenGL has a lower call overhead[21:28:46] <ra4king> 1.6 million cubes is done using 20x20x20 chunks of cubes[21:28:59] <ra4king> each chunk can potentially have 16x16x16 cubes[21:29:13] <ra4king> either way, 1.6 million cubes using 20x20x20 draw calls[21:29:23] <ra4king> let's reduce the number of draw calls and keep the same number of cubes[21:29:24] <MatthiasM> also you can use the current attribute value as kind of uniforms too - eg glMultiTexcoord or similar[21:30:30] *** Unimatrix325 has joined #lwjgl[21:30:33] <ra4king> oh hey check this out: 10x10x10 chunks of 32x32x32 cubes[21:30:38] <ra4king> it's now faster :D[21:31:25] <ra4king> MatthiasM: faster by 2 FPS :S[21:31:28] <ra4king> you're right[21:31:34] <lrh9> You working on a voxel project?[21:31:42] <Jeanne-Kamikaze> you should store several chunks in a single vbo[21:31:44] <ra4king> lrh9: yeh, just having fun with 3D[21:31:51] <Jeanne-Kamikaze> like they do in game engine gems vol 1[21:32:04] <MatthiasM> Jeanne-Kamikaze: unless you want to update chunks[21:32:05] <Jeanne-Kamikaze> like a superblock kind of thing[21:32:13] <MatthiasM> as that can stall the rendering[21:32:18] <Jeanne-Kamikaze> well you can still manage to do that[21:32:32] <MatthiasM> better to just make a new VBO, and use that once it's complete[21:32:40] <MatthiasM> and recycle the old one a few frames later[21:32:45] <ra4king> the way I have things done is all cube data is in a UNIFORM_BUFFER, as I do not pass any attributes to the shaders[21:32:48] <Jeanne-Kamikaze> yeah[21:32:54] <Jeanne-Kamikaze> the point is that 20^3 draw calls are still a lot[21:33:01] <ra4king> each chunk just does glBindBufferBase with its own VBO[21:33:03] <MatthiasM> ra4king: why?!?[21:33:05] <ra4king> right before the glDrawArrays call[21:33:28] <MatthiasM> attribute fetches are highly optimized[21:33:42] <ra4king> right, but using attributes here without geom shaders are a waste of memory[21:34:05] <ra4king> I have to pass in 36 vertices and their data per cube or 1 vec4 per cube?[21:34:23] <MatthiasM> ra4king: well - initially it might seem so - but later you want to get non square elements - like fences or stairs etc[21:34:42] <ra4king> MatthiasM: ah of course, I'm just talking about uniform evenly placed cubes[21:34:58] <ra4king> for more specialized less-mass-drawn objects I'll use attributes :D[21:35:04] <ra4king> I just want to draw as many cubes as possible right now[21:35:47] <ra4king> MatthiasM: check out my vertex shader: http://pastebin.com/HiYhz2UC[21:35:53] <ra4king> only thing that might make you cringe is the use of modulo :([21:35:57] <ra4king> unavoidable[21:36:52] <MatthiasM> you can do that with attribute streams[21:37:04] <ra4king> attribute streams?[21:37:24] *** darkfrog has joined #lwjgl[21:37:26] <MatthiasM> glVertexAttribDivisor[21:37:42] <ra4king> oooohhhhh[21:37:50] <ra4king> MatthiasM: this is why I wanted to talk to you[21:37:51] <lrh9> You're doing chunking? That's what I'm planning on doing. I was thinking about just having 1 VAO per chunk, where a chunk would be geometry data representing x * y * z blocks.[21:37:52] <ra4king> new info![21:38:17] <ra4king> MatthiasM: I fucking love you[21:38:21] <ra4king> I needed something like this[21:38:23] <MatthiasM> ehh[21:39:00] <ra4king> MatthiasM: oh shit, it's only in 3.3+[21:39:03] <ra4king> :([21:39:27] <MatthiasM> ra4king: it's really simple: you read everything, listen to every conversation and then you remember it all - until someone asks something :)[21:39:28] <ra4king> I can only use that if I were building a personal test, but I also want this stuff to run on my friend's GL 2.1 computer[21:39:44] <MatthiasM> lol[21:40:00] <ra4king> lrh9: yup that's how I have it done[21:40:04] <ra4king> 1 vao per chunk[21:40:09] <MatthiasM> ra4king: you have been advertising 3.x+for so long and now you do 2.x :P[21:40:26] <ra4king> MatthiasM: well it's a multiplayer game for a reason! :D[21:40:38] <ra4king> make my own LAN game :D[21:41:25] <MatthiasM> well - doesn't really matter anymore anyway - the new PCs all have Intel graphic shit inside and Winblöd 8.x - so nothing will work at all[21:41:37] <ra4king> MatthiasM: but seriously that function is perfect: glVertexAttribDivisor(0, 36)[21:42:09] <ra4king> now I have 1 vec4 per cube :D[21:42:56] *** patchwork has joined #lwjgl[21:43:17] *** ra4king has quit IRC[21:43:53] *** ra4king has joined #lwjgl[21:44:22] <ra4king> shit, accidentally closed the SSH tunnel terminal[21:44:31] <lrh9> Oops.[21:44:38] <nbf> screen brah[21:44:40] <ra4king> I don't trust my university so I tunnel all traffic through my web server back home[21:44:59] <ra4king> good old ssh -D[21:45:14] <ra4king> and -C of course to[21:45:51] <lrh9> Only thing I'm not really sure about is rebuilding the chunk data when a cube changes. I'm thinking I could use glBufferSubData to avoid having to rebuild the whole VBO...[21:46:47] <ra4king> yup[21:47:02] <ra4king> use GL_DYNAMIC_DRAW when creating the VBO, and update using glBufferSubData[21:47:19] <nbf> YES finally![21:47:44] <nbf> after 5 hours or modifying and tweaking googles fucktarded skia build system I have a static lib that can be linked into a shared library[21:48:23] *** Hanack1 has quit IRC[21:48:59] *** ExceptionlCatch has joined #lwjgl[21:49:03] *** ExceptionlCatch has left #lwjgl[21:50:11] <ra4king> nbf: skia?[21:50:30] <nbf> it's a really optimized 2d graphics lib that google built for chrome[21:50:39] <ra4king> ooohhh[21:50:43] <nbf> I've replacing java2d with it for SVG rendering[21:50:49] <nbf> because java2d is horribly slow[21:50:55] <ra4king> of course[21:50:57] *** piark has joined #lwjgl[21:50:58] *** ZeuPiark has quit IRC[21:51:11] <ra4king> nbf: holy shit the "trunk" folder for skia is huge[21:51:23] <nbf> its a huge library for a fairly simple api[21:51:38] <nbf> but i guess there's a lot of stuff under the covers, gpu backend, etc[21:52:21] <ra4king> C++ code looks neat though[21:52:26] <nbf> its not[21:52:28] <nbf> it's really really not[21:52:34] <ra4king> oh, I clicked on a couple files[21:52:45] <nbf> but if you want a job at DICE, you better get really good at C++[21:53:18] <nbf> or really just the game industry in general[21:53:54] <ra4king> yeah I know the basics and I've got pointers down[21:54:02] <nbf> never ever say that[21:54:21] <ra4king> hehe was expecting that. I know how pointers work....that's it[21:54:30] <ra4king> I'm expecting lots of tiny mistakes in the future :D[21:54:42] <ra4king> lots of things that will destroy my soul[21:54:46] <nbf> C++ has so many features I don't think anyone truly masters it[21:54:59] <nbf> maybe scott meyer[21:55:04] <nbf> but even then I doubt it[21:55:19] <ra4king> yup, I still don't know many of the syntax[21:55:27] <ra4king> and the way things work in some places[21:55:46] <ra4king> it's all a big complicated mess as I see it, especially since almost all behavior seems to be modifiable[21:57:14] *** piark has quit IRC[21:57:21] <MatthiasM> C is much nicer than C++[22:01:10] *** DrShoggoth has quit IRC[22:02:35] *** DrShoggoth has joined #lwjgl[22:04:58] *** DrShoggoth has joined #lwjgl[22:06:45] *** devnewton has joined #lwjgl[22:10:57] <patchwork> I am using an lwjgl Display over three monitors. When I resize the window it spans them fine, but if I go fullscreen, it only finds the first one[22:11:01] <patchwork> Any way around that?[22:12:06] <patchwork> Maybe it is that there is no display mode that spans all the screens[22:15:26] <patchwork> Hmm… where does lwjgl get its display modes from?[22:15:36] <patchwork> Looks like I need to add one to the list[22:16:08] <MatthiasM> from the system[22:16:33] <patchwork> So, I need to register a new display mode with the OS? Interesting[22:19:16] <kappaOne> don't think lwjgl 2 has multimonitor support[22:19:21] <kappaOne> although lwjgl 3 does[22:20:27] <patchwork> kappaOne: Hmm… latest release I see is 2.9.0[22:25:16] <kappaOne> yeh, no release of lwjgl 3 yet[22:25:45] <nbf> how far along is lwjgl 3?[22:26:32] <kappaOne> still a bit of work left[22:26:55] <kappaOne> but can be compiled from github[22:33:45] <ra4king> monday is last day of finals for me[22:33:48] <ra4king> then I'm freeeeeeeeee[22:34:15] <nbf> I have PTO for the rest of the year :)[22:34:21] <ra4king> nbf: PTO?[22:34:25] <nbf> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paid_time_off[22:34:31] * ra4king guess Paid Time Off?[22:34:33] <ra4king> oh[22:34:33] <ra4king> :D[22:46:17] *** Norbo11 has quit IRC[22:57:39] <nbf> lol[22:57:40] <nbf> @BiIIMurray: What if soy milk is just regular milk introducing itself in Spanish?[22:58:57] *** ahmedomar has joined #lwjgl[23:00:39] *** ahmedomar has quit IRC[23:02:16] *** Unimatrix325 has quit IRC[23:04:23] *** Tonux_ has joined #lwjgl[23:07:48] *** Tonux has quit IRC[23:12:50] *** Epowerj has joined #lwjgl[23:24:19] *** devnewton is now known as devnexton[23:37:29] <ra4king> nbf: oh shit that's brilliant[23:37:31] <ra4king> nbf: hahahaha[23:53:47] *** davedes has quit IRC