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[10:28:27] <[AD]Turbo> hi there
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[10:38:01] <bomb> you know what TEttinger
[10:38:09] <bomb> my dream job would be maintaining a library
[10:38:30] <bomb> available for both GPLv3 and commercial licensing
[10:39:25] <Ashiren> for the desktop games?
[10:41:35] <TEttinger> GPL is on its way out I would say. .NET Core is MIT, OpenJ9 is a whole JDK under Apache or EPL, and if your game lib is used on the server side no one would pay for it unless it's AGPL
[10:42:24] <TEttinger> AGPL is probably the most restrictive license out there
[10:42:39] <TEttinger> well, open source license
[10:42:49] <Ashiren> GPL is cancerous
[10:43:18] <TEttinger> Oracle's agreements with companies are byzantine, labyrinthine, draconian and machiavellian
[10:48:05] <bomb> yeah but how are we supposed to sell commercial licenses for our library?
[10:48:27] <TEttinger> AGPL probably
[10:48:33] <TEttinger> Affero GPL
[10:49:01] <TEttinger> also what does this lib do?
[10:49:17] <bomb> it shouts "i'm a company, and this is just my marking move"
[10:49:33] <bomb> i don't know, just a hypothetical lib people needs
[10:50:12] <TEttinger> I'm really liking what I've seen of Manifold
[10:50:25] <TEttinger> http://manifold.systems/
[10:51:20] <bomb> hmm. it doesn't look commercial?
[10:51:35] <Ashiren> yet another language for jvm?
[10:51:58] <TEttinger> not commercial, may sell training
[10:52:00] <TEttinger> it's Java
[10:52:08] <TEttinger> it's Java features as a lib
[10:52:24] <TEttinger> they basically made kotlin's cool stuff work in Java
[10:53:49] <TEttinger> you can write a JSON schema for even really complicated JSON and it will generate (potentially several) classes that match that JSON
[10:54:12] <TEttinger> extension methods, extension annotations, etc.
[10:55:07] <TEttinger> structural interfaces, so a class that defines `float x, float y;` can be treated like a GDX Vector2, implementing one common interface
[10:56:45] <bomb> sounds cool
[10:57:19] <TEttinger> it has a big featureset, it's interesting
[10:57:30] <TEttinger> I'm using the JSON stuff now
[10:57:46] <TEttinger> very convenient
[11:01:06] <bomb> i should try that one once i figure out how to use this frigging javafx maven plugin
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[13:44:05] <bomb> okay i gave up
[13:44:07] <bomb> screw javafx
[13:44:22] <bomb> i just miss libgdx
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[15:28:45] <Ashiren> andengine?
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[16:22:31] <bomb> i miss that one too
[16:22:38] <bomb> but i don't do no Android anymore
[16:32:03] <warmwaffles> mobile game dev seems like a loss
[16:45:54] <Corbit> ;_;
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[20:33:22] <bomb> 💣
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[20:57:27] <[twisti]> https://imgur.com/gallery/INYE292 damn thats crazy
[21:07:25] <bomb> good bot
[21:09:39] <Corbit> cool pictures. some day you define a object as rock and it completely cares about texturing it in the right environment setting.
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[21:40:06] <bomb> the AI i programmed does the opposite quite well [twisti]
[21:40:09] <bomb> not impressed
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[22:24:11] <Ashiren> so its like waifu filter?
[22:24:45] <bomb> i'm working another one that converts color photos into black & white ones
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