June 10, 2019 
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June 10, 2019 [00:31:16] *** Lestat <Lestat!~Zoryth@189.202.36.48.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx> has joined #libgdx[01:43:40] *** cosh <cosh!~cosh@p4FD9C47D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC ()[02:31:46] *** bomb <bomb!~bomb@gateway/tor-sasl/bomb> has quit IRC (Quit: ...)[02:43:45] *** lethani <lethani!~nemo@x4db67737.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #libgdx[02:45:55] *** lethani <lethani!~nemo@x4db67737.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:09:57] *** Corbit <Corbit!~corbit@2001:a61:3422:4901:18fc:e986:b266:7b0> has joined #libgdx[07:22:35] *** niloc132 <niloc132!~colin@c-73-228-219-105.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[07:33:25] *** niloc132 <niloc132!~colin@c-73-228-219-105.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[10:08:25] *** [AD]Turbo <[AD]Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-209-27.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has joined #libgdx[10:08:27] <[AD]Turbo> hi there[10:08:44] <Corbit> hello turob[10:08:47] <Corbit> *turbo[10:10:24] <[AD]Turbo> ciao Corbit[10:30:08] *** bomb <bomb!~bomb@gateway/tor-sasl/bomb> has joined #libgdx[10:46:17] *** cosh <cosh!~cosh@p50868171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[11:23:12] *** TEttinger <TEttinger!~notostrac@76-217-24-171.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[12:51:28] *** Corbit <Corbit!~corbit@2001:a61:3422:4901:18fc:e986:b266:7b0> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:45:32] *** zephyz <zephyz!~zephyz@213.144.156.237> has joined #libgdx[15:54:36] *** warmwaffles <warmwaffles!~warmwaffl@108.174.85.188> has joined #libgdx[16:54:43] *** Corbit <Corbit!~corbit@aftr-62-216-207-5.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #libgdx[17:04:11] *** [AD]Turbo <[AD]Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-209-27.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[17:22:35] *** Corbit <Corbit!~corbit@aftr-62-216-207-5.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:24:50] *** Corbit <Corbit!~corbit@2001:a61:3446:f101:9d6c:2301:406:b9a0> has joined #libgdx[17:29:31] *** Corbit <Corbit!~corbit@2001:a61:3446:f101:9d6c:2301:406:b9a0> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:31:40] <warmwaffles> So I've only really used the javax validation library before. Is there a more non annotation like one?[17:32:47] *** Corbit <Corbit!~corbit@2001:a62:444:5a01:9d6c:2301:406:b9a0> has joined #libgdx[17:36:59] *** Corbit <Corbit!~corbit@2001:a62:444:5a01:9d6c:2301:406:b9a0> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:37:05] <bomb> warmwaffles: what is a validation XD[17:37:18] <warmwaffles> :([18:27:32] *** lethani <lethani!~nemo@x4dbd21a4.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #libgdx[18:29:39] <lethani> Hi...what is the oldest version of iOS one can compile libGDX games for? How is this determinded (some settings file) or configured?[18:41:22] <lethani> For Android this information is pretty clear.[18:54:02] <Ashiren> Tomski?[19:01:07] <bomb> no offense, but i wouldn't use libgdx for ios[19:01:45] <Ashiren> :o[19:20:47] <lethani> @bomb why?[19:21:12] <bomb> nobody wants a 100 MB platform game[19:21:20] <lethani> Isn't it THE advantage of libgdx to publish for both Android and iOS at the same time?[19:22:26] <lethani> Why is the game size so very big? Is it the way roboVM compiles it? Are parts added in roboVM.xml (frameworks section) that are not actually needed for some games? Would this make it smaller?[19:22:54] <bomb> it's excellent for Android, Windows, Linux, macOS[19:23:05] <bomb> iOS is tricky thanks to Apple[19:23:18] <lethani> I know. But why is it so big?[19:23:55] <bomb> it transpiles entire Java to the bytecode iOS likes[19:24:04] <bomb> i don't know man[19:24:16] <bomb> you can always make a great game with good assets to justify its big size[19:24:31] <bomb> it's better than nothing[19:25:03] <bomb> also please note that my knowledge about libgdx on ios is 1.5-2 years old[19:42:32] <Ashiren> so old[20:18:08] <Lestat> onky 1 year old matter[20:20:15] <bomb> why do you make mobile games anyway?[20:20:26] <bomb> phones are tablets are the worst gaming devices in history[20:20:45] <bomb> there are also 3 million competitors[20:23:07] *** Corbit <Corbit!~corbit@2001:a61:344b:2d01:9d6c:2301:406:b9a0> has joined #libgdx[20:28:30] <Ashiren> with that attitude there would be no games other than few[20:29:14] <bomb> well, there is a reason mobile gamedevs starve to death[20:31:59] <Ashiren> so thats why so few people ae here nowadays?[20:32:03] <Ashiren> they all starved to death[20:36:28] <bomb> yeah man[20:36:39] <bomb> i tried to feed some of them[20:36:50] <bomb> because i'm a successful desktop programmer[20:37:02] <bomb> but i ain't no charity bruh[20:45:04] *** gratinb <gratinb!gratin@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/gratin> has joined #libgdx[20:45:42] *** Lestat <Lestat!~Zoryth@189.202.36.48.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:45:48] *** xLestat <xLestat!~Zoryth@189.202.36.48.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx> has joined #libgdx[20:47:11] <bomb> Ashiren: meanwhile some people succeeded with their desktop games first[20:47:19] <bomb> then the users begged for mobile version[20:47:23] *** gratin <gratin!~gratin@135-84-220-245.dynamic.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:47:23] <bomb> and they accepted whatever provided[20:47:29] <bomb> libgdx or actionscript[20:49:43] *** TEttinger <TEttinger!~notostrac@76-217-24-171.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #libgdx[20:58:28] *** xLestat <xLestat!~Zoryth@189.202.36.48.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[21:01:05] <Frotty> bomb long time no see[21:01:49] <bomb> Frotty: hey hey[21:02:18] <bomb> yeah i was busy with some IRL shit :\[21:02:21] <bomb> how's going?[21:11:02] <Ashiren> he was busy with... desktop games :c[21:12:08] <lethani> :)[21:12:25] <lethani> Steve Jobs is responsible for the free apps culture ;)[22:13:42] *** Corbit <Corbit!~corbit@2001:a61:344b:2d01:9d6c:2301:406:b9a0> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:25:03] *** bomb <bomb!~bomb@gateway/tor-sasl/bomb> has quit IRC (Quit: J A V E SC RE EE EP PP TT ALERT('HELO WORL");)[23:13:43] *** lethani <lethani!~nemo@x4dbd21a4.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)