May 16, 2018 
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And that is the reason why I'm getting this gross text: https://imgur.com/a/6qkoxwT[10:01:00] <blahblah> correct?[10:03:39] <blahblah> and I assume I should only use distance field font from the draw() method of an actor in order to render text correctly?[10:03:52] <blahblah> with the supplied batch[10:07:34] <megasoft78> TEttinger, Yes because I'm trying to run libgdx games on Google Instant Play[10:09:38] <jayhost1> Sorry I don't know much about fonts[10:09:42] *** jayhost1 is now known as jayhost[10:10:01] <TEttinger> I know fonts[10:10:20] <TEttinger> hi blahblah, you left right after i came online a day or two ago :)[10:10:56] <TEttinger> looks like you're using a distance field font without the appropriate shader[10:11:12] <TEttinger> there's a DistanceFieldFont class in libGDX that sets the shader up[10:11:44] <TEttinger> the batch is what has the shader, so if one looks correct it's using the right batch[10:11:51] *** OtakuSenpai is now known as Neel[10:13:04] <TEttinger> your Stage may need to be using the same SpriteBatch you set up with Assets.getFontShader()[10:20:43] <blahblah> hello TEttinger[10:22:19] <blahblah> actually I found out how to draw the distance field font with a shader from the draw method of an actor, but I'd like some existing component from scene2d (Label for instance) to use a distance field font. Any clue if I can do that without subclassing Label in my case? or without creating a class which has a label and override draw()[10:23:13] <blahblah> and sorry to have missed you yesterday, I had to leave in a rush[10:28:23] <TEttinger> the Batch that the Stage uses should use the DistanceFieldFont (maybe try using that class from libgdx, it does the shader on/off for you)[10:28:49] <TEttinger> so a shader applies to a batch and a Stage usually has its own batch[10:29:29] <TEttinger> using DistanceFieldFont will change the shader on the current batch regardless of what batch it is or what has it[10:29:50] <blahblah> ah, sounds great![10:30:01] <blahblah> let me give it a try[10:30:46] <TEttinger> only downside is text-heavy games will see a lot of shader switches, which may slow down rendering sometimes. but text heavy games don't need 120FPS[10:31:28] <blahblah> I think it will be fine, it's just a cross word game ^^[10:31:57] <blahblah> so just something like this in the code that initialize the stage should be enough? stage.getBatch().setShader(fontShader);[10:32:19] <TEttinger> DistanceFieldFont instead of BitmapFont should do it, I don't thik you need to set the shader yourself[10:32:53] <TEttinger> if you set the shader to show distance field fonts, it won't show some other textures clearly[10:33:14] <TEttinger> unless they have no alpha or have distance field effects (they need to be monochrome)[10:34:20] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[10:34:35] <TEttinger> yours was showing distance field fonts incorrectly, but other textures were fine, so the earlier code wasn't using the right shader. your latest line should sset it[10:34:49] <TEttinger> but be careful of non-distance-field things[10:35:22] <TEttinger> you may need to set it back to the default shader. DistanceFieldFont does this for you[10:35:55] <blahblah> any example of using DistanceFieldFont?[10:36:31] <TEttinger> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/gdx/src/com/badlogic/gdx/graphics/g2d/DistanceFieldFont.java[10:36:32] <TEttinger> uh[10:36:44] <TEttinger> it goes in place of BitmapFont[10:37:02] <blahblah> aah ok[10:37:39] <blahblah> that wasn't clear to me because on the wiki they create the font with new BitmapFont, not new DistanceFieldFont[10:37:57] <TEttinger> which page?[10:38:12] <TEttinger> there's one on distance field effects that's pretty good[10:38:14] <TEttinger> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/gdx/src/com/badlogic/gdx/graphics/g2d/DistanceFieldFont.java#L96-L138[10:39:07] <TEttinger> this apparently needs to be given to a Batch once, like how you had it with stage.getBatch().setShader(DistanceFieldFont.createDistanceFieldShader());[10:42:04] <TEttinger> I guess the DistanceFieldFont class wasn't around when that wiki page was last updated[10:43:15] <TEttinger> personally I use BitmapFont with a shader and customize the shader a lot[10:44:20] *** ariejan <ariejan!~ariejan@static-106-221-78-212.thenetworkfactory.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[10:45:04] <TEttinger> here's a variant on the normal distance field zooming way more than usually needed https://i.imgur.com/0DP35wN.gifv[10:45:51] <TEttinger> normal distance field rounds off all corners https://i.imgur.com/tT22Dr2.gifv[10:49:05] <blahblah> nice![10:49:29] <TEttinger> the variant is MSDF and it's a hassle to make a .fnt file for it[10:49:35] <TEttinger> I have a few I made[10:49:44] <TEttinger> distance field is easier[10:50:04] <TEttinger> SDF (regular distance field) also looks better at small sizes[10:52:32] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has left #libgdx[10:52:49] *** mk2 <mk2!5098fe1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.152.254.27> has joined #libgdx[10:52:49] *** mk2 <mk2!5098fe1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.152.254.27> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:53:03] *** codi^r <codi^r!~CoDi@ip4d179dca.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #libgdx[10:53:15] *** mk1 <mk1!5098fe1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.152.254.27> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[10:53:16] *** mk2 <mk2!5098fe1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.152.254.27> has joined #libgdx[10:53:31] *** mk2 is now known as mk1[10:55:35] <TEttinger> nn[10:56:14] <blahblah> TEttinger: here is a code sample I'm trying to get to work: https://pastebin.com/fTjk2LDF[11:00:47] <bomb> TEttinger: take over the libgdx management! it's terrible now![11:02:02] <mk1> blahblah: where's the problem?[11:02:59] <blahblah> for now it seems I'm missing some u_smoothing attribute in my shader[11:03:13] <blahblah> and I really can't get my head around shaders[11:04:13] <mk1> do you know how shaders work?[11:06:29] <blahblah> not at all, I know programming and computers to a pretty low level but nothing about graphics, rendering etc[11:06:50] <blahblah> ok so ShaderProgram.pedantic = false; helped a bit[11:07:23] <blahblah> now my example program is not crashing, but the text is displaying under the debug lines, while I would expect it to be inside[11:07:37] <blahblah> s/displaying/displayed/[11:07:39] <blahblah> let me show you[11:08:37] <blahblah> https://imgur.com/a/c7a6eUT[11:09:21] <mk1> okay, first of all, pedantic should be always on[11:09:23] <blahblah> nevermind -_-[11:09:27] <mk1> there's a reason for pedantic[11:09:44] <blahblah> of course, it was just so I could run the program[11:09:55] <mk1> then: if you declare your uniform it should also actually be used somewhere[11:09:55] <blahblah> before I had not this issue, not sure when it came in[11:10:07] <mk1> i.e. in your shader[11:13:34] <blahblah> and that's where I'm lost :/[11:14:18] <blahblah> I tried adding uniform float u_smoothing; to both files, but if put pedantic=true then it still complains about missing uniform u_smoothing[11:14:52] <mk1> not missing[11:14:56] <mk1> not used[11:15:03] <blahblah> Exception in thread "LWJGL Application" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: no uniform with name 'u_smoothing' in shader[11:15:27] <mk1> somehwere in your code you should have something like gl_fragColor = whatever * u_smoothing;[11:15:50] <mk1> since it's only used in the fragment program, remove declaration from the vertex program[11:16:00] <blahblah> here are my shader files: https://pastebin.com/0TwbneMF[11:16:11] <blahblah> oh i see[11:16:22] <mk1> yeah[11:16:23] <blahblah> but I don't know what to do with u_smoothing[11:16:23] <mk1> remove ln3[11:16:32] <mk1> you don't know what it's for?[11:17:13] <blahblah> well I guess it's the level of smoothness of round corners etc?[11:17:24] <mk1> it's the smoothness of edges[11:17:35] <mk1> the lower the value the sharper the edges will be[11:17:47] <mk1> remove ln 30 (the constant)[11:18:05] <mk1> and replace smoothness in smooth by u_smoothing[11:18:14] <mk1> *in smoothstep[11:18:30] *** mujjingun <mujjingun!uid228218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ttyblgiolclddhoi> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[11:18:34] <mk1> now the shader should compile[11:18:39] <blahblah> aaaah[11:18:40] <blahblah> thanks![11:18:59] <mk1> now, for actually rendering that shit[11:19:19] <mk1> rendering is done in "draw calls"[11:19:39] <mk1> consider a draw call like painting with a single pen[11:19:52] <mk1> if you want to use another pen, you need to start another draw call[11:20:12] <mk1> this is fairly inaccurate but suffices for your needs[11:20:48] <mk1> so: changing shader requires beginning a new draw call[11:21:53] <mk1> usually they're started using begin and end methods of whatever is rendering, in your case the spritebatch[11:22:18] <blahblah> i see[11:22:27] <blahblah> what would be acceptable values for u_smoothing?[11:23:35] <mk1> now, thanks to the awesome libgdx team, spritebatch (or batch for that matter) also exposes a method called setShader, which ends the current draw call for you and begins a new one[11:23:46] <mk1> I don't know, you have to test this[11:25:03] <mk1> I don't know all your code, but from what I see you should set batch.setShader(yourShader) before ln114[11:25:26] <mk1> and after rendering the text, set it back to default (batch.setShader(null))[11:25:58] <blahblah> it's done l48[11:26:09] <blahblah> thanks it feels clearer now[11:26:30] <blahblah> still not sure how deep I'll have to dive in on vertex etc though[11:26:58] <mk1> you're still missing a thing[11:27:16] <blahblah> oh you mean yeah I should set it in draw, and then reset to the default shader[11:27:16] <mk1> ln198,199 you're setting a lower and upper value there[11:27:26] <mk1> but you should set u_smoothing there[11:27:56] <blahblah> yeah I already done that! thanks for pointing it out[11:28:07] <blahblah> it was copy/pasted from somewhere else[11:28:34] <blahblah> now the method is just this: setUniformf("u_smoothing", smoothing);[11:28:54] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eztsskinyclffuyh> has joined #libgdx[11:29:02] <blahblah> but I'm not sure what kind of values to put in there, I tried 32, and 128 but it does appear different to me[11:32:26] <mk1> very small[11:32:31] <mk1> try 0.02 for starters[11:33:03] <mk1> since shaders use floating point, you don't have RGB values from 0-255 but rather from 0 to 1[11:33:25] <mk1> also: do you actually have signed distance field font?[11:33:30] <mk1> *a[11:34:05] <mk1> https://camo.githubusercontent.com/27955ca7c370c61beb548efd04bb1ba599b84cb1/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f33367774434d612e706e67 <= left: actual font, right: sdf counterpart[11:35:48] <blahblah> oh i see[11:45:59] *** wheeler <wheeler!3efd5782@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.253.87.130> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:49:02] *** mk1 is now known as mk1_lunch[11:53:37] <blahblah> bon appetit ![11:59:31] <Oddmonger> bon appétit :)’[12:14:48] <blahblah> yay! got it to work![12:14:59] <blahblah> thx mk1 and TEttinger[12:20:20] <blahblah> TEttinger: another question, in this page: https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Distance-field-fonts, it is mentioned "Set the "Spread" to a suitable value. It should be about half the width of the thickest lines in your font, in pixels."[12:20:30] <blahblah> how do you find a correct value?[12:33:58] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@171.253.112.55> has joined #libgdx[12:39:38] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d1f:fd54:b4e7:6260:7536:e9d2> has joined #libgdx[13:19:26] *** mk1_lunch is now known as mk1[13:19:37] <mk1> blahblah: just take a value that suits you[13:20:14] <mk1> bigger spread doesn't hurt[13:23:17] *** waterCreature <waterCreature!~waterCrea@203.125.138.178> has joined #libgdx[13:24:04] *** mujjingun <mujjingun!uid228218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-izkhgaghwywtlqhm> has joined #libgdx[14:04:19] <blahblah> ok thanks[14:06:27] <blahblah> if rendering is not that great it means spread was too small?[14:07:26] <Tomski> megasoft78: depends[14:07:34] <Tomski> what ide, how you are running, how you imported etc[14:09:34] <blahblah> hello Tomski[14:09:39] <Tomski> hello[14:13:04] *** jayhost1 <jayhost1!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[14:16:15] <blahblah> I'm trying to use the DistanceFieldGenerator for a monochrome image, but whatever the spread value I use I always obtain the same image (same md5 on the resulting file)[14:16:38] <blahblah> I tried this: for i in $(seq 1 128); do java -cp gdx.jar:gdx-natives.jar:gdx-backend-lwjgl.jar:gdx-backend-lwjgl-natives.jar:extensions/gdx-tools/gdx-tools.jar com.badlogic.gdx.tools.distancefield.DistanceFieldGenerator --downscale 2 --spread $i imgs/acw_arrow_east.png imgs/acw_arrow_east.df.$i.png; done[14:17:49] <blahblah> then: $ md5sum imgs/*.df.*.png | cut -f1 -d' ' | sort -u | wc -l => 1[14:18:18] <megasoft78> Tomski, it's working now[14:18:23] <megasoft78> :)[14:18:27] <megasoft78> thank you[14:18:28] <megasoft78> ;)[14:19:44] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eztsskinyclffuyh> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[14:21:07] <blahblah> shouldn't the resulting image change depending on the spread value?[14:25:11] <Tomski> Sure[14:26:38] *** waterCreature <waterCreature!~waterCrea@203.125.138.178> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:26:41] <blahblah> so what am i doing wrong? :/[14:28:43] <Tomski> Simplify your script[14:29:00] <Tomski> UJse fixed values for downscale and spread and see what you end up with[14:30:07] <blahblah> i did that and it was also the same, although my image contains some black pixels and the rest is transparent[14:30:23] <blahblah> should I change the color or something?[14:30:39] <Tomski> They should just be black/white[14:33:42] <blahblah> so transparency is not ok?[14:37:26] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d1f:fd54:b4e7:6260:7536:e9d2> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:37:31] <blahblah> hah, I confirm it works better if I replace the alpha layer with white[14:37:49] <Ashiren> white is always better[14:37:52] <Ashiren> uh oh[14:37:58] <blahblah> but how to handle transparency then?[14:38:25] <mk1> huh?[14:38:36] <cackling_ladies> what the...[14:38:50] <mk1> blahblah: please take a look at your shader files[14:38:53] <mk1> https://pastebin.com/0TwbneMF[14:38:59] <mk1> ln35[14:39:01] <cackling_ladies> no idea why you dont just use alpha channel[14:39:35] <mk1> it states that the font's color is determined by the vertex color (which you set with batch.setColor(whatever))[14:39:39] <blahblah> cackling_ladies: I would like to, but apparently the DistanceFieldGenerator tool from libgdx does not process the image correctly if it has transparent pixels[14:39:50] <mk1> and the alpha channel is determined by the sdf texture[14:40:19] <blahblah> mk1: I manage to render my fonts correctly, now I'm onto applying the distance field stuff to a monochrome image[14:42:07] <mk1> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Distance-field-fonts <= why don't you just use Hiero?[14:42:55] <blahblah> as far as I understand, hiero is to handle fonts, but now I'm trying to render a monochrome image using the same distance field technique[14:43:26] <blahblah> see at the end of the wiki page you just mentioned[14:43:37] <mk1> uhm[14:43:43] <mk1> your input image has transparent pixels?[14:43:59] <blahblah> I would like to yes[14:44:02] <mk1> input image should be black and white (NOT monochorme!) image[14:44:08] <mk1> where the shape is white and background is black[14:44:18] <mk1> high resolution preferred[14:45:02] <blahblah> mmm ok I did the opposite so I will fix that first, but then how to render the image with transparent background?[14:45:20] <mk1> wtf[14:45:24] <mk1> sdf renders shapes[14:45:33] <mk1> shapes are fully opaque[14:46:02] <mk1> transparency is done by the shader[14:47:48] <blahblah> ah, understood[14:47:52] <blahblah> thx[14:49:38] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #libgdx[15:32:38] *** cackling_grandma <cackling_grandma!~cackling_@171.253.112.55> has joined #libgdx[15:36:22] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@171.253.112.55> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:36:27] *** []J <[]J!~Z@115.63.172.133> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:37:40] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xrUtDu3.gif)[15:44:57] <FattyOwl> http://demo.curious-expedition.com[15:46:33] <mk1> stops at end of progress bar[15:47:02] <mk1> oh no, it just took reeeeeaaally long[15:51:08] <mk1> seems very polished. good German texts, native speaker I assume[15:53:27] <Oddmonger> FattyOwl: i like the hexagon clouds, very good idea :)[15:54:34] <mk1> don't like them. they're too flat. could keep hexagon shape, but should have a little more structure[15:55:15] <Tomski> electron game[15:55:17] <Tomski> cmonnnnnnnnnn[15:55:41] <Tomski> I bet their ram requirements on steam is like 10000gb[15:55:44] <FattyOwl> oh it's not my game, just thought you'd find it cool[15:56:00] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[15:56:40] <mk1> http://mk-scape.de/screens/xplore/xplore_2014_08_20.png <= my attempt on a 4x game. performance was poor though[15:57:37] <FattyOwl> do you know why?[15:57:51] <FattyOwl> looks good[15:59:52] <Oddmonger> FattyOwl: is this made with libgdx at least ? :)[15:59:55] <mk1> mostly because there were quite a lot of overlays for each hexagon (fog of war, planets, stargates, ships, nebula, anomalies) and I kinda had my own hexagonbatch[16:00:20] <mk1> but it recreated a lot each frame, nothing was cached. so when you zoomed out it behaved poorly on my android[16:03:23] <tribblestuffer> FattyOwl: get fucked aye[16:03:39] <tribblestuffer> now i don't have to use facebook anymore[16:03:47] <tribblestuffer> glorious day[16:04:07] <Tomski> Oddmonger: no, its html[16:04:09] <tribblestuffer> got any good at dwarven space mining yet?[16:04:48] *** []J <[]J!~Z@115.63.175.235> has joined #libgdx[16:04:50] <tribblestuffer> rise to ruins is the beauty of libgdx i reckon[16:05:49] <FattyOwl> my brother won't play dwarven mining, he reckons it's too scary for him before he goes to sleep[16:05:55] <tribblestuffer> haha[16:06:03] <tribblestuffer> was it laggy when you played with us[16:06:08] <tribblestuffer> i think the relay server is west coast USA[16:06:21] <tribblestuffer> NZ -> Europe is a bit of an ask for a real time 3d game[16:06:31] <FattyOwl> it wasn't laggy but sometimes you'd all disappear from the hud? not sure if it was lag or because i was far away from you[16:06:46] <FattyOwl> anyway i didn't have any problems[16:06:51] <tribblestuffer> probably PEBKAC[16:07:04] <tribblestuffer> ^ IT joke[16:07:08] <tribblestuffer> i'm an IT guy now[16:08:06] <FattyOwl> itinerant tribblestuffer[16:15:54] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d1f:fd54:b4e7:6260:7536:e9d2> has joined #libgdx[16:20:33] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-orfeocavutwtzznz> has joined #libgdx[16:38:49] *** samort7 <samort7!~samort7@cam-att-fw-ext.camsys.com> has joined #libgdx[17:40:30] *** [AD]Turbo <[AD]Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-209-27.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC ()[17:41:32] *** mk1 <mk1!5098fe1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.152.254.27> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:04:56] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d1f:fd54:b4e7:6260:7536:e9d2> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:23:32] *** Neel <Neel!~OtakuSenp@117.194.194.77> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[18:38:30] *** mujjingun <mujjingun!uid228218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-izkhgaghwywtlqhm> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[18:58:06] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@2001-4dd3-6131-0-99dc-9eeb-bc4d-5b78.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has joined #libgdx[18:59:57] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:04:58] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has joined #libgdx[19:11:51] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Doodiedoodiedoodiedoooo)[20:06:03] *** cobolfoo <cobolfoo!~cobolfoo@modemcable234.250-70-69.static.videotron.ca> has joined #libgdx[20:27:43] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@2001-4dd3-6131-0-99dc-9eeb-bc4d-5b78.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Quit: hextileX)[20:27:44] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@5468961A.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #libgdx[20:27:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Xoppa[20:29:37] *** blahblah <blahblah!~bigtest@78.192.105.72> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[20:36:28] <megasoft78> hi guys[20:36:46] <megasoft78> Tomski, Did you publish your Play Instant Game?[20:36:59] <megasoft78> I'm struggle to understand the app link[20:37:31] <megasoft78> it seems I need to have a website with https support[20:39:45] <bomb> what is a Play Instant Game?[20:40:55] <megasoft78> https://developer.android.com/topic/google-play-instant/[20:53:34] <myke> neat[21:03:59] *** Zta <Zta!~stephan@static-5-186-52-63.ip.fibianet.dk> has joined #libgdx[21:13:49] <Tomski> megasoft78: not published[21:32:03] <TEttinger> Let's Encrypt is pretty common for HTTPS certificates[21:33:46] <TEttinger> also good news on the Java front, in a benchmark of some RNG code I have equivalent calculated results from Rust and Java but Java takes 31 seconds as opposed to 36 for Rust[21:34:43] <TEttinger> before there was some weirdness where some code was sorta dead and Java wasn't able to figure that out, but Rust was and only took 1/7 the time due to that dead code elimination[21:35:14] *** jayhost1 <jayhost1!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:48:40] <mutilator> lets encrypt is more than half the web now[21:51:04] <mutilator> https://nettrack.info/ssl_certificate_issuers.html[22:05:43] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[22:09:21] *** kjeldahl <kjeldahl!~kjeldahl@124.205.189.109.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:12:23] *** kjeldahl <kjeldahl!~kjeldahl@124.205.189.109.customer.cdi.no> has joined #libgdx[22:33:44] <megasoft78> TEttinger, Tomski Do I really need to have a website? In this guide talk about "Use the Launch API"[22:33:48] <megasoft78> https://developer.android.com/topic/google-play-instant/getting-started/convert-to-instant-app#provide-url-access[22:33:58] <megasoft78> Not sure what it means[22:34:15] <Tomski> You can link from outside the store (any website)[22:34:55] <megasoft78> yes but Do I still need to create an app link to publish my instant game?[22:35:54] <Tomski> You need to add the app link in the manifest[22:36:25] <Tomski> the minimum is just the default url[22:36:53] <megasoft78> ok, but that default url must be on a website that support https?[22:37:13] <megasoft78> or can be just a fake url?[22:38:40] <megasoft78> it seems strange that to publish an Instant Game you need your own website[22:39:32] <myke> is the "instant play" app just a web frame that goes to that url, with restrictions?[22:39:44] <megasoft78> no[22:39:48] <megasoft78> it's a native game[22:39:56] <megasoft78> that run from an url[22:40:15] <megasoft78> it has a scheme to intercept the intent[22:41:05] <megasoft78> instead of install the game from Google Play you can try immediatelly using the button Try Now[22:41:12] <Tomski> myke: they just download tiny versions[22:41:31] <megasoft78> in my case is the full version :)[22:41:33] <Tomski> megasoft78: afaik the url is just what you want to link specific activities to[22:42:18] <megasoft78> Tomski, no because I already tried with a fake url and when I upload I get an error[22:42:33] <megasoft78> he's trying to validate by accessing to that link[22:42:59] <megasoft78> it's looking for a file called assetlinks.json[22:43:01] <Tomski> You would need to verify you won the app and also the domain[22:43:17] <megasoft78> yep[22:43:17] <Tomski> So i guess you do need to own and be able to verify the domain[22:43:30] <megasoft78> there is another problem[22:43:46] <megasoft78> it seems you can link just 1 instant app per domain[22:43:54] <megasoft78> that's a mess[22:44:03] <Tomski> No you can use many urls[22:44:30] <megasoft78> https://developer.android.com/training/app-links/verify-site-associations[22:44:33] <Tomski> banana.com/firstAppFirstActivity, banana.com/firstAppSecondActivity[22:45:18] <megasoft78> are you sure?[22:45:20] <Tomski> yes[22:45:31] <megasoft78> they seems to talk about subdomains[22:46:00] <Tomski> they are saying if you want to use subdomains, these are the additional steps you need to do[22:46:07] <megasoft78> ah ok[22:46:25] <megasoft78> this mean you need to put all your instant apps into the same assetlinks.json[22:46:28] <megasoft78> right?[22:48:12] <Tomski> Right, you'd need to register allof them there[22:48:23] <Tomski> If you were using the same domain for all[22:48:56] <megasoft78> ok[22:49:04] <megasoft78> let's me try Let's Encrypt[22:49:06] <megasoft78> :)[23:05:29] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has quit IRC (Quit: ...)[23:09:14] *** cackling_grandma <cackling_grandma!~cackling_@171.253.112.55> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:10:41] *** megasoft78 <megasoft78!~megasoft7@net-109-115-245-121.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:13:28] *** jayhost1 <jayhost1!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[23:15:57] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:21:10] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xrUtDu3.gif)[23:27:55] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[23:30:23] *** jayhost1 <jayhost1!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:30:30] *** grim001 <grim001!~grim001@ip70-173-209-228.lv.lv.cox.net> has joined #libgdx[23:34:53] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@5468961A.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:35:28] *** jayhost1 <jayhost1!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[23:36:28] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)