May 2, 2018 
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May 2, 2018 [00:08:57] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[00:14:58] *** dsbk <dsbk!~Bokudesu@79-69-48-194.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:19:23] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-86-118.mobile.spark.co.nz> has joined #libgdx[00:21:39] *** Xoppa <Xoppa!~Xoppa@5468961A.cm-12-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:48:20] *** LiquidNitrogen <LiquidNitrogen!~quassel@115-189-86-118.mobile.spark.co.nz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:54:39] *** []J <[]J!~Z@115.63.174.106> has joined #libgdx[01:11:21] *** Solater <Solater!bbb144ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.177.68.206> has joined #libgdx[01:12:20] <Solater> Hello, I'm having a problem with Libgdx's file system and I am at a loss why[01:13:13] <Solater> Basically, looking at the relative path's of external, local and internal yields the same absolute path, the user's home directory[01:13:57] <Solater> But this only happens on compiled jars, not when compiling within the IDE[01:14:27] <Solater> And what I find really confusing, is that I used the exact same code on a previous project, and it works just fine[01:14:40] <Solater> Any ideas?[01:21:01] <SuckyNoob> hmmm what ide?[01:21:44] <Solater> Intellij[01:22:41] <Solater> But if I compile my old project, with that exact same code, it does work there[01:24:04] <SuckyNoob> did u see this already? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21404875/how-do-you-get-the-path-of-a-jar-in-libgdx[01:26:09] <Solater> This could perhaps serve as a workaround for my problem, but the question is why doesn't Gdx.file.internal("."), not point to this same directory?[01:26:54] <SuckyNoob> I'm not sure I haven't exported a jar myself haha. I've just debugged etc when making stuff with gdx[01:27:18] <SuckyNoob> so never got far enough to do things like need to grab a user directory etc[01:28:37] <SuckyNoob> hmm internal[01:28:50] <SuckyNoob> let me find my folder with my gdx stuff in it 0.o[01:29:16] <Solater> Hmm, I just tested the stackoverflow code you sent, and it seems it does have the same problem[01:29:37] <SuckyNoob> oh i see, hmm maybe in your IDE configurations or options the paths are messed up somewhere[01:30:09] <Solater> Yes, then the user.dir property must be wrong...[01:30:16] <SuckyNoob> oh[01:30:20] <Solater> I'll have to look for where it is set[01:30:22] <SuckyNoob> that's just a string they are setting I think[01:30:45] <SuckyNoob> hmm oh maybe not i should look up that function[01:31:21] <SuckyNoob> https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/gdx/src/com/badlogic/gdx/utils/SharedLibraryLoader.java[01:31:55] <SuckyNoob> searched for the System.getproperty and that is there[01:31:58] <SuckyNoob> um[01:33:13] <Solater> Hmm, no mention of user.dir there though[01:33:23] <Solater> Only user.home, which I assume is the home directory[01:34:22] <Solater> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/essential/environment/sysprop.html[01:34:25] <Solater> I found this[01:34:53] <Solater> It says that user.dir is the user's working directory, but not necessarily where the jar is stored[01:34:53] <SuckyNoob> ah[01:35:02] <SuckyNoob> sp use / or \ instead of . I think[01:35:17] <SuckyNoob> "file.separator" Character that separates components of a file path. This is "/" on UNIX and "\" on Windows.[01:35:25] <SuckyNoob> and then there is the bottom[01:35:36] <SuckyNoob> with the dots. Hmm not sure[01:35:51] <Solater> Wait a second[01:35:56] <SuckyNoob> someone will be along that knows an answer tho I'm pretty sure[01:36:04] <Solater> I think I may know what's up[01:36:08] <Solater> Let me test it, one second[01:42:09] <Solater> Well, I'm stupid[01:42:32] <Solater> I was running the program through the command line, but I didn't cd it to the jar's directory[01:42:45] <Solater> So that's why the working directory was in my home directory![01:42:57] <Solater> Well, thank you very much for your help[01:44:35] *** codi^r <codi^r!~CoDi@ip4d179dca.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[01:46:48] <SuckyNoob> oh lol[01:47:04] <SuckyNoob> ya ive done that before :P not with gdx specifically but definitely done that before lol[02:04:34] *** bryan` <bryan`!bryan`@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bryan/x-44341077> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:11:14] *** oseph <oseph!~waxfigs@173-230-191-187.cable.teksavvy.com> has joined #libgdx[02:17:17] *** DB219 <DB219!4344a212@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.68.162.18> has joined #libgdx[02:19:09] <DB219> SuckyNoob[02:24:48] *** Frotty <Frotty!~FrottyZao@ip-178-201-132-41.hsi08.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:28:05] *** mujjingun <mujjingun!uid228218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rwgmuvmtjyfiqssz> has joined #libgdx[02:28:51] *** Solater <Solater!bbb144ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.177.68.206> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[02:29:56] <SuckyNoob> DB219[02:32:41] <DB219> SuckyNoob: Your hottie has a brain tumor... :( https://youtu.be/tpa4kp4lK60[02:32:57] <SuckyNoob> that girl[02:33:01] <SuckyNoob> Oh that sucks :([02:33:38] <DB219> holy shit, when I saw the vid yesterday it had 600K views, now it's at 2M[02:33:41] <SuckyNoob> shit[02:33:49] <SuckyNoob> golf ball[02:33:57] <DB219> Everyone likes her[02:34:54] <SuckyNoob> she should get really high then knocked out with a tranq, thats what I'd ask for so I wouldn't know it was coming :p[02:35:33] <SuckyNoob> poor girl[02:36:06] <DB219> I hope she'll be okay[02:36:35] <SuckyNoob> me too. I think I'll send a card to the PO Box there[02:38:17] <SuckyNoob> wonder if it has anything to do with soldering exhaust[02:39:29] <SuckyNoob> ah you know what's weird she's the chick with the house boat video too, I didn't even put the two together[02:39:36] <SuckyNoob> I want a houseboat if I can't get land[02:47:50] <SuckyNoob> You know when I go through her videos you can kind of see her right eye is swollen more than the left around the socket[02:48:40] <SuckyNoob> She'll be okay, they're pretty good at that sort of thing[02:49:40] <SuckyNoob> I'm sort of friends with an old elderly surgeon, not a brain surgeon mind you. But they are dedicated people[02:57:41] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d1f:fd54:d82f:4c54:6ba5:77fa> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:42:54] *** OtakuSenpai <OtakuSenpai!~Neel@117.194.197.165> has joined #libgdx[04:22:44] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBD844005B5F2636DD4FDF72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[04:27:54] *** DB219 <DB219!4344a212@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.68.162.18> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:37:30] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBD0860025888E462EDB0CF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[04:47:12] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBD0860025888E462EDB0CF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:50:06] *** mipesom <mipesom!~mipesom@p200300E6EBD0860025888E462EDB0CF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #libgdx[04:53:45] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nyyhvgsguczgxvrc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[05:08:10] *** oseph <oseph!~waxfigs@173-230-191-187.cable.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Quit: bye.)[06:12:17] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[06:31:25] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has quit IRC (Quit: ...)[06:45:44] *** Zta <Zta!~stephan@static-5-186-52-63.ip.fibianet.dk> has joined #libgdx[06:50:12] *** Zta <Zta!~stephan@static-5-186-52-63.ip.fibianet.dk> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[06:51:32] *** Zta <Zta!~stephan@static-5-186-52-63.ip.fibianet.dk> has joined #libgdx[07:21:15] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d1f:fd54:d82f:4c54:6ba5:77fa> has joined #libgdx[08:28:27] *** Zta <Zta!~stephan@static-5-186-52-63.ip.fibianet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[08:35:09] *** deniska <deniska!~denis@unaffiliated/deniska> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[08:37:15] *** deniska <deniska!~denis@unaffiliated/deniska> has joined #libgdx[08:40:05] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d1f:fd54:d82f:4c54:6ba5:77fa> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:51:47] *** mk1 <mk1!5098fe1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.152.254.27> has joined #libgdx[08:57:28] *** SuckyNoob <SuckyNoob!~SuckyNoob@2607:fea8:7d1f:fd54:d82f:4c54:6ba5:77fa> has joined #libgdx[09:04:00] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #libgdx[09:04:15] *** codi^r <codi^r!~CoDi@ip4d179dca.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #libgdx[09:39:26] <TEttinger> yo, it's 3 AM jayhost time[09:39:56] <TEttinger> https://i.imgur.com/9bY8Uqx.gifv working on bigger smoother ships[09:44:20] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@LPuteaux-657-1-79-235.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #libgdx[09:44:42] <TEttinger> hey smelc! congrats on big release[09:47:17] *** xrash <xrash!~xrash@179.98.212.96> has joined #libgdx[09:47:27] <smelc> thanks TEttinger[09:47:57] <smelc> I finally have my hands free to start the tiles backend :-)[09:48:01] <TEttinger> I should probably play it some time. or fork it :)[09:48:03] <smelc> I've been waiting for it actually![09:48:41] <TEttinger> waiting for me to play it or for tiles?[09:48:48] <smelc> for the tiles[09:49:06] <TEttinger> mm, is there an artist you're working with?[09:49:07] <smelc> I don't expect anyone to play, otherwise I would be too often disappointed[09:49:24] <smelc> I'll go with oryx tiles first[09:49:25] <TEttinger> I'm really not very good at roguelikes, heh[09:49:46] <TEttinger> yep, they cover almost everything. weird license last I checked[09:49:54] <TEttinger> kinda implied any usage was a breach[09:50:45] <smelc> what do you mean ?[09:50:47] <smelc> I've bought them[09:51:18] <smelc> and if I remember right, once you bought them; you could do whatever you want with it[09:52:29] <TEttinger> good, they cleaned up the license https://www.oryxdesignlab.com/license[09:52:47] <TEttinger> aaaand no, you didn't actually buy them :)[09:53:00] <TEttinger> you licensed them, and it makes that weirdly specific point[09:53:29] *** xrash <xrash!~xrash@179.98.212.96> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:54:08] <TEttinger> it's of course a super difficult position oryx is in, people need to show the assets in a game but people can obviously rip sprites[09:54:58] <jayhost> Hey Tettinger, how goes[09:55:12] <jayhost> Oh woah those pixel ships look nice[09:55:23] <TEttinger> notably, oryx sprites aren't licensed for open source games, only "free"[09:55:30] <TEttinger> or shareware/commercial[09:55:49] <TEttinger> thanks jayhost[09:56:55] <TEttinger> they made some progress tonight. from https://i.imgur.com/OZxJklU.gifv to https://i.imgur.com/FgLwWxy.gifv to https://i.imgur.com/9bY8Uqx.gifv[10:36:09] *** RazielZ <RazielZ!~Raziel@unaffiliated/raziel> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:41:48] *** [AD]Turbo <[AD]Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-209-27.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has joined #libgdx[10:45:04] <SuckyNoob> interesting[10:45:09] <SuckyNoob> this line here. Licensee shall attempt to protect the game artwork in a Product (e.g. embed the artwork in a library file or archive).[10:45:19] <SuckyNoob> how would one go about doing that?[10:45:49] <SuckyNoob> embedding it in a library file? I guess I've never made a library before, so[10:53:25] <TEttinger> a password protected zip maybe[10:55:57] <SuckyNoob> wouldnt the program need to know the password?[10:56:26] <SuckyNoob> i dunno how that all works, guess I will look up "embedding art in library file"[10:57:37] <SuckyNoob> wow its already 5am how the hell did that happen[11:00:59] *** codi^r <codi^r!~CoDi@ip4d179dca.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Gone to sleep. 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I have a 16x52 texture. I use it as a Sprite and set the origin to w/2, 0, so it should have the origin at the bottom center. When rendering, it does not seem to put the bottom center at the (x + w/2, y) at all. This becomes even more apparent when rotating the sprite.[13:08:15] <ariejan> See https://i.imgur.com/fKgAfoJ.png - I'm talking about the (detached) turret, with the origin rendered with a pink +.[13:10:42] <Tomski> render does not take origin into consideration[13:10:46] <Tomski> it is only for scale and rotation[13:11:12] <ariejan> @Tomski I know. I've used both sprite.draw(batch...) and a custom batch.draw that takes these into account.[13:12:03] <ariejan> Like so: https://gist.github.com/ariejan/a31bf789d30162681c72b68ffeec9d11[13:12:59] <Tomski> that is not offsetting[13:13:05] <Tomski> you are always drawing it at sprite.getX and getY[13:13:12] <Tomski> which is always the bottom left of the sprite[13:13:17] <Tomski> Read the javadocs of those methods[13:14:19] *** AndroUser2 <AndroUser2!~androirc@82-132-247-121.dab.02.net> has joined #libgdx[13:14:21] <ariejan> My bad; yes. I should set use x - originX, y - originY instead.[13:20:08] *** jayhost <jayhost!~ian@c-174-60-11-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[13:21:31] *** ariejan_ <ariejan_!~ariejan@static-106-221-78-212.thenetworkfactory.nl> has joined #libgdx[13:22:27] *** ariejan <ariejan!~ariejan@185.38.13.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:24:56] *** mk1_lunch is now known as mk1[13:31:39] *** RazielZ <RazielZ!~Raziel@unaffiliated/raziel> has joined #libgdx[13:37:04] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@14.177.154.218> has joined #libgdx[13:38:46] *** ariejan <ariejan!~ariejan@109.236.94.21> has joined #libgdx[13:40:33] *** ariejan_ <ariejan_!~ariejan@static-106-221-78-212.thenetworkfactory.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:43:56] *** blahblah_ <blahblah_!~bigtest@78.192.105.72> has joined #libgdx[13:44:01] <blahblah_> hello all[13:44:37] <blahblah_> I'm a bit perplex about an error I'm having:[13:44:38] <blahblah_> java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: index can't be >= size: 17 >= 41[13:44:38] <blahblah_> at com.badlogic.gdx.utils.FloatArray.get(FloatArray.java:131)[13:44:38] <blahblah_> at com.badlogic.gdx.scenes.scene2d.ui.TextField.updateDisplayText(TextField.java:411)[13:44:59] <blahblah_> if I look at the code of FloatArray I can see this: if (index >= size) throw new IndexOutOfBoundsException("index can't be >= size: " + index + " >= " + size);[13:45:07] <Frotty> you have an array of size 17 and are trying to access index 41[13:45:08] <blahblah_> should I get worried about my hardware or something?[13:45:57] <blahblah_> but 17 is not greater than or equal to 42[13:46:09] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[13:47:03] <Frotty> ah youre right[13:47:09] <Frotty> that's funny[13:47:15] <blahblah_> not to me! hehe[13:47:30] <Frotty> libgdx version?[13:47:34] <blahblah_> should I run memtest or something?[13:47:56] <blahblah_> let me check[13:48:09] <Frotty> before you do that, try if the same error happens on other device[13:48:55] <ariejan> You could try debugging and stepping into the `get` to see what the internal state of FloatArray is?[13:49:29] <blahblah_> how can I know which version of libgdx I'm using?[13:49:46] <Tomski> blahblah_: are you multi threading?[13:49:47] <Frotty> root build.gradle[13:49:49] <Tomski> Any networking?[13:50:00] <Frotty> dem multi threaders[13:50:28] <blahblah_> gdxVersion = '1.9.8' ?[13:51:25] <blahblah_> Tomski: mmmh no networking, but I have other threads running, they should not interfere though, but maybe I'm wrong, I'll check that[13:51:45] <blahblah_> although the error is fairly reproducible[13:52:14] <Tomski> you are most likely being thread unsafe[13:56:28] <Frotty> e.g. changing the textfields text from some other thread[13:58:51] <blahblah_> Tomski: ok you seem to be right, thx[13:59:13] <cackling_ladies> oh wow we're at 1.9 already :o[13:59:15] <blahblah_> although I still can't figure out where is the problem[14:00:26] <blahblah_> cackling_ladies: Hah, I was expecting more like "What?? 1.9? do you come from the 80s or what?" hehe[14:00:40] <cackling_ladies> look I'm still running 1.2[14:00:53] <cackling_ladies> or maybe 1.4...[14:01:11] <cackling_ladies> I forgot. The version when we stopped supporting opengl 1.0...[14:02:46] <cackling_ladies> I see we still have issues with multi threading... I've never lived without it and thanksfully have never got any.[14:03:00] <cackling_ladies> let's just hope nothing will break when I deploy[14:06:02] <blahblah_> ok guess I failed to identify a critical section[14:06:34] <blahblah_> cackling_ladies: multithreading issue is because of my own mess, not because of libgdx[14:06:57] <blahblah_> sorry if I made you believe that[14:08:11] <cackling_ladies> well "dont multithread if you can help it" is still a very common advice last I checked[14:08:29] <cackling_ladies> iirc it has something to do with android app management?[14:08:58] <Tomski> multi thread gives you multi problems[14:09:12] <cackling_ladies> there you go![14:09:55] <cackling_ladies> @tomski is the multi problem the usual multi threading problem or there's something inherent in libgdx that excabage it?[14:10:32] <Tomski> usual[14:10:36] <Tomski> libgdx is not thread safe[14:11:19] <grim001> I have too many rendering paths[14:13:56] <cackling_ladies> @tomski does that mean let's say, the app get interupted, all slave threads would hang indefinitely on shared data locks and cause all sorts of instability issues?[14:17:37] <blahblah_> Tomski: thanks! I added a pair of synchronized(lock) {} and now everything seem fine![14:17:43] <Tomski> uh oh[14:17:43] *** dsbk <dsbk!~Bokudesu@79-69-48-194.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has joined #libgdx[14:17:59] <Tomski> cackling_ladies: getting interrupted by what?[14:18:01] <cackling_ladies> wao I was asking about just that![14:18:11] <cackling_ladies> a phone call, for example![14:18:15] <Tomski> no[14:18:18] <blahblah_> cackling_ladies: na[14:18:21] <Tomski> render thread usually gets paused by that[14:18:31] <Tomski> So only issue would be your slave threads misbehaving[14:18:38] <cackling_ladies> what about say, networking or game simulation thread[14:18:42] <blahblah_> cackling_ladies: my problem is I can new Thread().start() and was modifying the same data from multiple threads[14:18:46] <Tomski> same deal[14:19:01] <blahblah_> s/I can new/I call new/[14:19:10] <grim001> running different game systems in different threads is typically a bad idea unless you really know what you're doing[14:19:40] <blahblah_> grim001: in my case I'm generating a grid, which might take a while depending on grid size, so it really has to be a background task[14:19:50] <grim001> a task-based approach tends to work much better than thinking in terms of threads[14:20:07] <blahblah_> grim001: example?[14:20:07] <grim001> you should use an executor/future type approach[14:20:16] <Tomski> sometimes it cannot be avoided[14:20:42] <grim001> if you are generating some giant chunk of data in the background that's an ideal task to hand off to an executor[14:21:15] <blahblah_> mmm let me read about it[14:21:57] <grim001> if you want to read about it, you'll need to read an entire book... I suggest Java Concurrency in Practice[14:22:52] <blahblah_> lol, I meant just read basic example to see if it would fit for my case :p[14:22:53] *** AndroUser2 <AndroUser2!~androirc@82-132-247-121.dab.02.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:24:24] <grim001> multithreading and concurrency is one of the most difficult areas of programming, not a great idea to jump into it without reading up extensively[14:26:51] <blahblah_> grim001: I was just talking about reading about the executor/future type approach[14:27:51] <cackling_ladies> iirc the only time I used the future object is to stream sprite loading from disc[14:28:03] <grim001> this looks like an OK guide: http://winterbe.com/posts/2015/04/07/java8-concurrency-tutorial-thread-executor-examples/[14:28:17] <cackling_ladies> if you have seen asset pop in, my stuff looks like that.[14:33:55] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[14:41:18] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-whqovutvdarduivu> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[14:47:05] <ariejan> What's the easiest way to draw the bounding box around sprites? (ShapeRenderer expects different vertices than spritebatch, so I can't reuse these.)[14:52:04] <grim001> I would draw a solid rect in the same position as the sprite, slightly enlarged, and discard all of the inner fragments[14:56:35] <Tomski> ariejan: you can use shape renderer just fine[14:56:44] <Tomski> just use rect(minX, minY, maxX, maxY)[14:56:53] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@2001-4dd7-88e6-0-a486-f6c8-f84a-9e7e.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has joined #libgdx[14:56:55] <ariejan> @Tomski does that work with rotation?[14:57:30] <Tomski> bounding boxes are axis aligned[14:59:28] <Tomski> but if you want to draw the sprites bounds, you can use the rect method that allows for rotation and origin[15:00:21] <ariejan> @Tomski I should not have used the term bounding box. I use create polygons from sprite's getVertices to do collisiondetection.[15:01:50] <ariejan> got it working :-)[15:02:02] <Tomski> ariejan: there is a nice polygon method you can use[15:02:12] <ariejan> Yes, using that right now.[15:02:13] <Tomski> just need to discard some verts[15:02:16] <Tomski> and nice :)[15:02:48] <ariejan> did that already to create a Polygon from my (rotated) sprites to use Intersector.overlapConvexPolygons.[15:03:05] <ariejan> Because I updated my rendering to render at origin, the polygons are all shifted and giving unexpected results.[15:03:10] <ariejan> Nothing I can't fix, though ;-)[15:03:20] <Tomski> thats the spirit[15:03:55] <ariejan> :-)[15:04:21] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has joined #libgdx[15:11:07] <ariejan> w00t this works like a charm now :-) Thanks for your help.[15:12:19] <Tomski> awesome, np[15:19:45] *** AD_Turbo <AD_Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-209-27.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has joined #libgdx[15:21:59] *** [AD]Turbo <[AD]Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-209-27.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:27:41] *** oseph <oseph!~waxfigs@173-230-191-187.cable.teksavvy.com> has joined #libgdx[15:27:49] *** oseph <oseph!~waxfigs@173-230-191-187.cable.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:36:53] *** oseph <oseph!~waxfigs@173-230-191-187.cable.teksavvy.com> has joined #libgdx[15:40:11] *** Alex001 <Alex001!5b7ecf13@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.126.207.19> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[16:14:09] *** Nawab <Nawab!~Neel@117.194.197.144> has joined #libgdx[16:18:02] *** OtakuSenpai <OtakuSenpai!~Neel@117.194.197.144> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:25:46] <blahblah_> any clue how to render a radio button? I know about ButtonGroup and I use it, but how to render the buttons like radio buttons?[16:26:10] <Frotty> skin[16:27:42] * blahblah_ Frotty -vvv[16:27:43] <blahblah_> :D[16:29:15] <Frotty> idk if there is a default radiobutton in scene2dui, i guess not. YOu have to create a ButtonSkin with selected state[16:29:27] <blahblah_> isn't there some checkbox style I could apply out of the box without having to create my own?[16:29:47] <blahblah_> cause that's just it, instead of having a check mark in the checkbox, put a circle instead[16:30:32] <blahblah_> and you get a radio button[16:34:36] <blahblah_> guess I can live with it as a checkbox but meh[16:36:11] <Tomski> ISNT THERE A CHECKBOX?[16:36:12] <Tomski> oops[16:36:47] <Frotty> round things are so out of style[16:37:04] <Tomski> stop being so square[16:37:56] <mutilator> octagons are the new now[16:42:49] <Tomski> https://i.imgur.com/e71RBwU.gifv[16:42:50] <Tomski> bahaha[16:46:24] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@14.177.154.218> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:47:01] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@14.177.154.218> has joined #libgdx[16:48:11] *** ariejan <ariejan!~ariejan@109.236.94.21> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[17:06:38] *** senthilkumark <senthilkumark!~senthilku@103.113.188.239> has joined #libgdx[17:07:18] <senthilkumark> I have released my game "Quest of Vidhuraa" on Steam few days back. Made in LibGDX. If you would like check it out. This is possible because of all the help I have received here. https://store.steampowered.com/app/683870/Quest_of_Vidhuraa/[17:08:04] <cackling_ladies> 88 Congrat! 88[17:08:09] <myke> nice senthilkumark[17:08:34] <senthilkumark> Thanks @crackling_ladies and @myke[17:09:20] <cackling_ladies> is steam api hard to work with?[17:09:33] <FattyOwl> nice one senthilkumark[17:09:50] <senthilkumark> No.[17:10:07] <senthilkumark> Will add those soon.[17:10:21] <senthilkumark> thanks @fattyowl[17:12:37] <bomb> senthilkumark: congrats! i'll buy it once i get to the home[17:12:52] <senthilkumark> Thank You @bomb[17:12:55] <senthilkumark> :)[17:13:18] <bomb> senthilkumark: you're welcome. would you consider Mac and Linux support too?[17:13:24] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has quit IRC (Quit: bomber)[17:13:34] <senthilkumark> Later will do.[17:13:47] <senthilkumark> He has left.[17:13:57] *** bomb <bomb!bomb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bomb> has joined #libgdx[17:14:03] <senthilkumark> @bomb[17:14:06] <senthilkumark> will do later.[17:15:34] <bomb> silly me. typed /quit instead of /query :)[17:15:35] <bomb> senthilkumark: cool cool. how wast the Steam publishing process? did you need to wait long?[17:16:02] <senthilkumark> no. just 3 days after I have marked the build as ready for review.[17:16:12] <senthilkumark> The page has to up for two weeks[17:16:26] <cackling_ladies> when MS buy your company for $10b share with me some of the dosh mkay?[17:16:28] <senthilkumark> in the coming soon section[17:16:40] <senthilkumark> :)[17:16:52] <senthilkumark> making fun @cackling_ladies[17:16:55] <bomb> ah, two weeks. no big deal[17:17:06] <bomb> they also needed $100 deposit, right?[17:17:12] <senthilkumark> 100$ for each game[17:17:13] <senthilkumark> yes[17:17:46] <cackling_ladies> do you need deposits for free games as well?[17:17:53] <cackling_ladies> what about ad supported free games?[17:18:08] <bomb> yeah[17:18:29] <bomb> but you'll get your $100 back once your game sells $1000 or more[17:18:35] <bomb> not sure how would they re-pay for free games[17:19:25] <bomb> cackling_ladies: but i wouldn't even consider ads in steam games :)[17:19:49] <cackling_ladies> I dont consider ads period but then i'm oldschool[17:20:32] <bomb> you could do well with in-app purchases[17:21:44] <smiley_> senthilkumark: did you use packr for the release?[17:21:46] <cackling_ladies> wonder how steam deal with that, too[17:22:02] <senthilkumark> yes @smiley_[17:22:17] <smiley_> nice :)[17:22:34] <smiley_> I tried it myself for the first time for our ludum dare entry last week[17:22:56] <smiley_> too bad it doesn't make an .exe of the whole thing[17:23:00] <cackling_ladies> game reminds me of dustforce[17:23:24] <senthilkumark> yeah.. Tried out with various JREs[17:23:32] <senthilkumark> finally arrived at working version.[17:24:22] <senthilkumark> And there are some LWJGL + Win 10 + Intel graphics card issue is there[17:24:24] <smiley_> I had to go with openjdk7 for windows.. mac worked fine with 8.. didn't have much time to investigare[17:24:46] <senthilkumark> We did with JDK 8 on Windows[17:24:53] <senthilkumark> Used Zulus OpenJDK[17:25:02] <bomb> IAP in Steam is rather easy cackling_ladies, but you shouldn't be afraid of asking money upfront[17:25:27] <bomb> it works well on Steam[17:25:42] <smiley_> senthilkumark: ok.. I will try that for the next time :) thanks[17:25:56] <senthilkumark> Win 64[17:25:59] <senthilkumark> not 32 bit[17:26:01] <smiley_> yeah[17:26:14] <senthilkumark> 32 bit I faced to so many issues[17:26:21] <senthilkumark> Dropped 32 bit support[17:26:28] <senthilkumark> went with 64 bit support alone.[17:26:43] <smiley_> pretty safe these days[17:26:49] <senthilkumark> hmmm[17:27:06] *** taharqa <taharqa!~taharqa@51.15.168.137> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[17:30:05] *** taharqa <taharqa!~taharqa@51.15.168.137> has joined #libgdx[17:34:41] *** senthilkumark <senthilkumark!~senthilku@103.113.188.239> has quit IRC ()[17:36:41] <cackling_ladies> hmm i wonder what kind of issues he had with 32bits[17:39:07] *** mk1 <mk1!5098fe1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.152.254.27> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:42:36] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xrUtDu3.gif)[17:42:50] *** RazielZ <RazielZ!~Raziel@unaffiliated/raziel> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[17:43:58] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has joined #libgdx[17:52:52] *** hextileX <hextileX!~Thunderbi@2001-4dd7-88e6-0-a486-f6c8-f84a-9e7e.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Quit: hextileX)[17:58:44] *** AD_Turbo <AD_Turbo!~ADTurbo@93-40-209-27.ip40.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC ()[17:59:18] *** oseph <oseph!~waxfigs@173-230-191-187.cable.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:15:12] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@LPuteaux-657-1-79-235.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[18:18:28] *** ryanastout <ryanastout!ada538f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.165.56.241> has joined #libgdx[18:21:46] *** Oebele <Oebele!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has joined #libgdx[18:27:34] *** codi^r <codi^r!~CoDi@ip4d179dca.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Gone to sleep. 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I'm going to clean it up a bit, but I can show in a sec[18:45:43] *** mujjingun <mujjingun!uid228218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rwgmuvmtjyfiqssz> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[18:51:57] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:03:50] <Frotty> ryanastout: :D[19:07:59] *** codi^r <codi^r!~CoDi@ip4d179dca.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #libgdx[19:09:53] <ryanastout> Tomski: seems like it was just that it was always faded out. I was calling setScrollPercentY(p); and that wasn't forcing it to be shown[19:12:49] <Tomski> aye[19:13:40] <ryanastout> I'm also noticing some weird flickering. I'm just trying to get rid of the unnecessary styles so i can put up the code[19:21:24] <ryanastout> Tomski when I run this https://pastebin.com/vpKkZRdP I see a flickering that is only present when I force scroll[19:30:47] <Tomski> probably because you are setting variable widths for your cells[19:30:54] <Tomski> When your parent doesnt have a fixed size[19:31:07] <Tomski> So it will resize based on content, and cause a feedback loop[19:32:37] <ryanastout> if I never fade out the scroll bars I don't see the flickering, so I guess maybe I'll just leave the scroll bars showing all the time[19:33:21] <ryanastout> I guess I don't quite understand why forcing the scroll bar shows the flickering, but never fading it out doesn't[19:35:31] <Tomski> probably becuause it changes the size of the table[19:36:54] *** oseph <oseph!~waxfigs@173-230-191-187.cable.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[19:37:25] <ryanastout> what changes the size of the table? do you mean setForceScroll() does change the table size but making it not fade out doesn't?[19:39:09] <ryanastout> (brb)[19:39:11] *** ryanastout <ryanastout!ada538f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.165.56.241> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[19:42:31] *** Nawab <Nawab!~Neel@117.194.197.144> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:50:19] *** AsukaLSoryu <AsukaLSoryu!~asuka@104.158.180.7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:51:04] *** AsukaLSoryu <AsukaLSoryu!~asuka@104.158.180.7> has joined #libgdx[19:57:37] *** Oebele_ <Oebele_!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has joined #libgdx[20:09:44] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx[20:11:45] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has joined #libgdx[20:20:04] *** lhor_ <lhor_!~Lee@li732-135.members.linode.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Quit)[20:25:13] *** lhro <lhro!~Lee@li732-135.members.linode.com> has joined #libgdx[20:50:46] *** ryanastout <ryanastout!180e4373@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.14.67.115> has joined #libgdx[20:52:29] *** intrigus <intrigus!uid114902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijrqeupyxdilqyxw> has joined #libgdx[20:55:31] <ryanastout> I don't think I understand what the feedback loop is that's causing the flickering of the menu when I force there to be a scroll bar. Like, I get that there's maybe an initial size of the table, then th ScrollPane maybe shrinks it so there can be room for the scroll bar[20:56:11] <ryanastout> but I am not sure I see what would cause the size of the contained Table to increase again (causing the part of the "jitter" that makes the table look bigger for some frames)[20:59:36] *** mxttie <mxttie!~mattie@94-224-64-59.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Doodiedoodiedoodiedoooo)[21:02:22] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@14.177.154.218> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:03:04] *** ryanastout <ryanastout!180e4373@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.14.67.115> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:10:03] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@117.5.165.228> has joined #libgdx[21:14:52] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #libgdx[21:28:13] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:37:44] *** Oebele_ <Oebele_!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:45:45] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #libgdx[22:02:05] *** cackling_ladies <cackling_ladies!~cackling_@117.5.165.228> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:49:45] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[23:03:48] *** smelc <smelc!~churlin@4be54-1-81-56-4-73.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:06:06] <myke> anyone using ubuntu 18.04? running into hot new problems[23:08:26] *** gerds0n <gerds0n!~textual@ipbcc3188b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #libgdx[23:14:33] *** Oebele <Oebele!~quassel@143.177.58.202> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:18:26] <myke> ok got it figured out, don't upgrade to 18.04 unless you're ready to tweak on your java install[23:20:44] <Frotty> hot[23:24:34] <myke> it unhelpfully installed openjdk 11 (which for some reason identifies as 10.something) alongside 8, and some gnome atk accessiblity thing broke[23:24:51] <Frotty> 11 ?![23:25:06] <Frotty> oh lul[23:25:11] <Frotty> they werent kidding with their rapid release plan[23:25:44] *** segurb <segurb!~segurb@unaffiliated/segurb> has quit IRC (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xrUtDu3.gif)[23:26:26] <myke> default is 9, not even sure how i got 11[23:26:44] <myke> it also unhelpfully uninstalled emacs23 entirely[23:27:00] <myke> so far i haven't seen any benefits, someone said vsync worked but it's not working on my nvidia 940m[23:27:29] <myke> glxgears even says it's setting vsync but the 700fps fullscreen says otherwise[23:59:54] *** isdera <isdera!~isdera@cpe-74-78-187-102.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #libgdx