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[00:14:49] <kohsuke> jenkins-admin: fork kiy0taka/tepco-plugin on github
[00:14:49] <jenkins-admin> Forking tepco-plugin
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[00:16:18] <jenkins-admin> Created https://github.com/jenkinsci/tepco-plugin
[00:17:56] <jenkinsci_builds> Project jenkins_main_trunk build #621: SUCCESS in 32 min: http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/job/jenkins_main_trunk/621/
[00:17:57] <jenkinsci_builds> Kohsuke Kawaguchi: added methods to help visualization
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[02:29:49] <kohsuke> cowboyd: what was the webex/gotomeeting number?
[02:30:03] <cowboyd> I'm just setting up webex now.
[02:30:06] <kohsuke> cool
[02:30:11] <kohsuke> so I don't need a virtual machine this time!
[02:30:31] <cowboyd> yeah, jieryn-w was working with me last time from gentoo
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[02:33:59] <cowboyd> https://thefrontside.webex.com/thefrontside/e.php?AT=WMI&EventID=171122807&RT=MiM3
[02:35:43] <kohsuke> hmm
[02:35:52] <cowboyd> no luck?
[02:36:25] <kohsuke> It's a problem on my side
[02:36:35] <kohsuke> Somehow neither of my browsers are set up with Java
[02:37:03] <kohsuke> fixing it
[02:38:58] <cowboyd> I see you in the meeting, but can't hear you.
[02:39:19] <kohsuke> Yes
[02:39:51] <cowboyd> can you see my screen?
[02:40:15] <kohsuke> Yes
[02:40:20] <kohsuke> Fixing audio now
[02:41:44] <cowboyd> so you can hear me?
[02:43:46] <mwalling_> "can you hear me now?"
[02:45:19] <kohsuke> cowboyd: https://github.com/cowboyd/fog.hpi/commits/master
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[02:56:44] <kohsuke> cowboyd: https://gist.github.com/886230
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[03:00:06] <kohsuke> cowboyd: jieryn-w: https://svn.java.net/svn/stapler~svn/trunk/stapler
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[03:01:28] <kohsuke> https://svn.java.net/svn/stapler~svn/trunk/stapler/
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[03:06:18] <jieryn-w> nod
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[03:10:53] <kohsuke> cowboyd: jieryn-w: https://gist.github.com/886239
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[03:23:00] <cowboyd> kohsuke: jieryn-w: https://gist.github.com/886256
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[03:29:29] <kohsuke> cowboyd: 		this.ruby.getLoadPaths().add(0, this.getClass().getResource("support").getPath());
[03:34:42] <kohsuke> run(binding,OutputStream)
[03:34:47] <kohsuke> cowboyd: ^^
[03:35:02] <kohsuke> NO GOOD: String run(binding)
[03:35:08] <kohsuke> GOOD: void run(binding,Writer)
[03:36:55] <kohsuke> NO GOOD: { String s = run(binding); writer.write(s); }
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[03:50:15] <cowboyd> kohsuke: jieryn-w: https://gist.github.com/886283
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[04:11:30] <cowboyd> kohsuke: https://gist.github.com/886283
[04:11:38] <cowboyd> I'm more happy with that implementation
[04:11:44] <kohsuke> Thanks
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[04:16:56] <cowboyd> kohsuke: is there not a stapler mirror on github?
[04:17:13] <kohsuke> I've been meaning to convert this to Git but I haven't
[04:17:29] <kohsuke> Is there an equivalent of method_missing for attribute reads?
[04:17:39] <kohsuke> or property access, however you call it
[04:19:13] <kohsuke> cowboyd: ^^
[04:19:54] <cowboyd> attribute reads are just methods
[04:20:01] <kohsuke> ah
[04:20:06] <cowboyd> you mean like @ variables?
[04:20:22] <kohsuke> No, I understood now
[04:20:26] <kohsuke> foo.bar.zot is foo.bar().zot()
[04:20:31] <cowboyd> yes
[04:20:35] <kohsuke> foo.bar.zot = 5 would be foo.bar().zot(5)
[04:20:44] <cowboyd> close
[04:20:53] <kohsuke> zot=(5)
[04:20:56] <kohsuke> ?
[04:20:57] <cowboyd> foo.bar().zot=(5)
[04:21:04] <cowboyd> yes
[04:21:08] <kohsuke> perfect
[04:21:52] <cowboyd> so you will receive ':zot='
[04:21:57] <cowboyd> as the method name in method_missing()
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[07:09:10] <TJ__> does anyone have hudson running with codecoverage by gcov and the python script that generates the cobertura compatible xml file ?
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[07:36:16] <Gints> hello good ppl
[07:36:30] <Gints> my Hudson is not doin SVN pool anymore
[07:36:39] <Gints> after some upgrade / downgrade
[07:37:00] <Gints> after I restart tomcat... it first does pool for all jobs
[07:37:03] <Gints> and then stops
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[07:37:20] <Gints> I am in frustration :)
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[08:13:33] <Gints> anybody know about SVN poll issues?
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[08:15:34] <Gints> there is not errors in log... but SVN polling does not work
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[09:06:23] <Gints> heelp.. .SVN polling does not work :(
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[10:10:59] <gmcdonald> Gints: hang around for the nightshift
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[10:22:28] <olamy> morning !
[10:22:51] <Weltraumschaf> morning
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[12:30:58] <eyeofhell> Hello. I have installed lates Jenkins version on Mac OS X 10.6 Server (with default java and tomcat) and got this error: https://gist.github.com/882922 Is it not intended to be used with Mac OS or i'm doing something wrong?
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[12:49:21] <FauxFaux> eyeofhell: You could try installing it in Tomcat and seeing if the problem goes away. </no idea>
[12:49:53] <eyeofhell> FauxFaux: What is the "it" i need to initialize in Tomcat?
[12:50:11] <FauxFaux> The entirety of jenkins; the war-file install method.
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[12:55:40] <eyeofhell> FauxFaux: I have tried to use 1.401 jenkins version and it works while 1.403 raises exception mentioned above :((
[12:56:27] <FauxFaux> Tikkit.
[12:57:36] <eyeofhell> bbntrt
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[13:02:58] <sattski> yey
[13:03:03] <sattski> found the bug in clearcase plugin
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[13:19:05] <fireba11> hi
[13:20:39] <fireba11> my jenkins takes way too long for the svn checkout .. (abtou 20mins usually) the svn is running locally via svnserve, any pointers?
[13:26:20] <selckin> did you try a checkout yourself?
[13:26:39] <fireba11> checkout from workstations works fine
[13:26:49] <selckin> try on the server
[13:27:11] <fireba11> is there any log where i can see the hudson checkout command? so i can do exactly the same manually :-D
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[13:51:34] <jieryn-w> it's not in the build log ?
[13:52:54] <selckin> no
[13:53:00] <jieryn-w> confirmed
[13:53:40] <banoss> clearcase commands are all in the build log :-)
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[13:54:11] <jieryn-w> seems like a good jira enhancement request for svn scm
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[13:59:25] <mwalling_> jenkins doesnt use svn.exe|/usr/bin/svn, it uses the java svn library, right?
[14:02:27] <jieryn-w> i think the core svn support uses java svn lib
[14:03:36] <resmo_> mwalling_, you can configure, it should use native stuff
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[14:06:06] <mwalling_> my point being, you wont see a command line that you can cut and paste into a shell
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[14:08:33] <resmo_> mwalling_, didn't get your question, what is the problem?
[14:09:29] <fireba11> my svn checkout is dead slow, svn is on the same box. works fine from other PCs, am using svnserve
[14:12:28] <selckin> you did add /trunk on the end? ;)
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[14:12:52] <banoss> resmo_ ^^ he means there is no command line to echo out to the build log. Doesnt stop the parameters to the java svn library being echoed along with the return data. So user will have to construct a command line to manually execute the same thing. So, you might as well form your command line from the svn config that you already have in the Jenkins config section. Jobs a good'un.
[14:13:22] <resmo_> ic
[14:13:24] <mwalling_> banoss: but that doesnt isolate an issue with svnkit (or what ever its called) vs the svn binary
[14:14:11] <banoss> mwalling_: agreed. We are only going to test behaviour of the lib vs the command line *shrug*
[14:14:45] <banoss> at least if both behaviours are the same it may be the env to blame
[14:15:21] <resmo_> banoss, do you use windows and your url is something like svn://localhost?
[14:15:40] <banoss> I use Solaris mainly and ClearCase :-) .. so i have other problems :-P
[14:15:48] <resmo_> lol
[14:16:01] <resmo_> ok, I stop guessing...
[14:16:11] <prusswan> it's not just svn that doesnt spew out the commands, git too
[14:16:58] <resmo_> it takes long time, but it works, so no firewall issue?
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[14:20:33] <resmo_> fireba11, windows? svn://localhost?
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[14:30:00] <banoss> anyone done much work with aggregating junit test results? I cant get a parent job to aggregate a downstream maven2 jobs' test results. Top level job is a freestyle job.
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[14:38:17] <fireba11> resmo_: linux
[14:38:37] <fireba11> yes, it works "fine" execpt that it takes about 20x the time it should take
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[16:08:20] <martha> i'm using copyartifact plugin 1.14 and i get this nullpointer exception http://pastebin.com/7tuqY7xQ
[16:08:26] <martha> can anyone help me on this please? thanks
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[16:13:50] <rpetti> martha: what version of jenkins are you using?
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[16:14:24] <martha> 1.397
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[16:17:27] <rpetti> martha: are all of your slave agents up to date?
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[16:21:56] <martha> oh. I haven't checked that yet.  but i'm pasting the code from 103-118 of ProxyOutputStream http://pastebin.com/t5qfCJm1
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[16:22:37] <martha> anyways, thanks for the tip
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[16:23:59] <Hoack> Hi everybody
[16:24:39] <Hoack> I have a problem with Jenkins, hope that aomeone can help me
[16:24:48] <FauxFaux> Not if you don't ask!
[16:25:09] <Hoack> FauxFaux: Sorry, that's what I meant :)
[16:25:17] * FauxFaux twitches.
[16:25:17] <RSchulzB> Hey, FauxFaux, do I remember you from #scala?
[16:25:28] <FauxFaux> I'm everywhere.  Normally I just /argh people.
[16:25:30] <FauxFaux> RSchulzB: Arrrrgh!  Your question is entirely useless.  Fill in the blanks: "I tried [X] in [Y].  I got [A] but I was expecting [B].  The simplest way I can think to reproduce this is [C]."  Reply on one line.  If it doesn't fit, use a pastebin.  Do not even think of speaking before fully filling in the question.
[16:25:46] <Hoack> Our Hudson somehow autoupgraded to Jenkins
[16:26:00] <RSchulzB> Aren't you the lucky one! No more Hudkins for you!!
[16:26:20] <Hoack> Well, but in doing that it dropped all the configuration
[16:26:22] <Hoack> :(
[16:26:35] <Hoack> I mean, the files and directories are there,
[16:26:38] <RSchulzB> Are you sure it didn't just move from /var/lib/hudson to /var/lib/jenkins?
[16:26:51] <RSchulzB> (Assuming *nix, of course.)
[16:26:53] <Hoack> But the web interface shows no jobs
[16:27:14] <Hoack> Hmm
[16:27:20] <Hoack> Let me check...
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[16:32:45] <stephenc> ok
[16:33:21] <stephenc> before I run off digging through code...
[16:33:30] <rpetti> martha: if it's still doing it after you reinstall your slave agents (assuming they aren't using SSH) then you should probably file a bug
[16:33:35] <stephenc> does anyone know if there is a way to cross-cut actions into any object
[16:34:04] <stephenc> e.g. add a transient action to every project/view/node
[16:34:24] * stephenc curses kk for not being awake yet
[16:34:31] <Hoack> Thanks! I think I see what happened now
[16:35:04] <Hoack> Upgrade process created a new /var/lib/jenkins directory, but didn't migrate the existing hudson stuff there
[16:35:20] <prusswan> did you even specify -DJENKINS_HOME?
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[16:35:48] <Hoack> I didn't do anything - in the morning I just discovered jenkins in place of hudson
[16:36:28] <martha> rpetti: ok, but it happens intermittently. Thanks.
[16:36:32] <Hoack> Is there any way to automatically migrate all the existing configuration to Jenkins?
[16:36:34] <prusswan> cos if you didn't it will simply assume a default location for .jenkins
[16:37:35] <Hoack> prusswan: so, how and where should I specify it?
[16:37:39] <prusswan> just do whatever that you did for hudson but instead of hudson_home you specify jenkins_home
[16:37:57] <Hoack> Ah, and can I poit it to the old hudson home?
[16:38:23] <rpetti> Hoack: yeah, it doesn't require any sort of migration. It just need to know where the files are
[16:38:24] <prusswan> it should work, but kinda weird
[16:38:35] <rpetti> so you can point to the old one, or move the old to the new
[16:38:40] <Hoack> Thanks guys!!! Will try it now!
[16:38:47] <prusswan> i mean it will end up like -DJENSON_HOME=....hudson
[16:39:08] <Hoack> Oh, one more q: Where is this variable usually specified?
[16:39:19] <Hoack> Is it just an environment var?
[16:39:23] <prusswan> many ways
[16:39:35] <prusswan> i use tomcat, so i do it through its init scripts
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[16:39:54] <Hoack> prusswan: thanks!
[16:40:13] <RSchulzB> Hoack: Did you install using a RPM?
[16:40:48] <Hoack> RSchulzB: I don;t remember how we installed hudson originally
[16:41:02] <RSchulzB> On Centos with an RPM install, the configuration is in /etc/sysconfig/jenkins (nee .../hudson).
[16:41:10] <Hoack> RSchulzB: Our sysadmin did it long time ago
[16:41:24] <RSchulzB> Someone yesterday said that on other Linux (I forget which he was using) it's elsewhere under /etc.
[16:41:42] <RSchulzB> Do a find or a recursive egrep in /etc for something pertinent.
[16:41:46] <prusswan> actually, is it really beneficial to use a rpm?
[16:41:52] <rpetti> on debian the init script is /etc/init.d/jenkins
[16:42:01] <RSchulzB> It's a lot easier than putting all the pieces in place manually, I think.
[16:42:11] <prusswan> I installed on centos as well, but found it easier to work with tomcat and the war file directly
[16:42:15] <RSchulzB> That's the init script. Same on Centos. But the configuration is elsewhere.
[16:42:39] <RSchulzB> OK. To each his own. I prefer to avoid mucking with configuration and installation as much as possible.
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[16:42:58] <RSchulzB> Plus, I have to answer to IT / Ops guys and their Puppet and whatnot?
[16:43:18] <rpetti> /etc/default/jenkins
[16:43:43] <RSchulzB> That sounds right.
[16:43:56] <Hoack> Ah, found it
[16:44:03] <prusswan> it's easier for me because i migrated the setup from windows, and centos isn't my favorite linux distro
[16:44:10] <Hoack> it is /etc/sysconfig/hudson.rpmsave
[16:44:32] <RSchulzB> Centos isn't my favorite, but again, I don't call those shots here where I work.
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[16:48:15] <Hoack> RSchulzB: So is hudson.rpmsave the actual hudson config file?
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[16:48:36] <RSchulzB> No, it's the backup created when RPM migrated you from hudson to jenkins.
[16:48:56] <RSchulzB> It's your previous configuration file but is no longer being used. (Most likely.)
[16:49:05] <Hoack> I see
[16:49:11] <Hoack> I found the jenkins config file
[16:49:15] <Hoack> Will try to change it
[16:49:27] <RSchulzB> Frankly, I always make tar-ball snapshots of things like my configs and the working directory before doing updates.
[16:49:44] <RSchulzB> Diff them.
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[17:34:11] <jenkinsci_builds> * Christoph Kutzinski: [FIXED JENKINS-5764] maven incremental builds leave modules unbuilt
[17:34:11] <jenkinsci_builds> * Christoph Kutzinski: [FIXED JENKINS-9072] Incremental builds: Marking modules not being
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[17:39:27] <banoss> thanks kutzi for 5764. Will grab trunk and run some tests :)
[17:41:25] <banoss> ... but maybe not from werk where I cant get to github :-/
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[17:59:49] <kutzi> banoss you're welcome. You can also get the artifacts from http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/job/jenkins_main_trunk/622/
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[18:03:15] <banoss> kutzi: cool cheers. just building... so whichever finishes first...
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[18:06:31] <jenkinsci_builds> Christoph Kutzinski: record changes for JENKINS-5764 and JENKINS-9072
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[18:36:39] <banoss> kutzi : perfect.
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[18:38:42] <kutzi> did you try it?
[18:38:47] <banoss> yup.
[18:38:56] <kutzi> that was fast
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[18:39:24] <banoss> well on my test project...
[18:39:36] <banoss> its not in my production instance yet :D
[18:40:39] <olamy> kutzi hello
[18:40:45] <olamy> 7535 looks better
[18:40:52] <kutzi> hi
[18:41:03] <kutzi> have you tried it?
[18:41:13] <olamy> yup works fine here
[18:41:26] <kutzi> okay, then I'll push it to master
[18:41:39] <kutzi> I think the risk is pretty low on these changes
[18:41:48] <olamy> yup seems fine
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[18:42:06] <olamy> I will try this on a larger instance with more maven builds
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[18:42:19] <olamy> I have just tried on a small one
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[18:42:56] <kutzi> Okay, please let me know. Then I'll push it when you've finished your tests
[18:43:43] <olamy> give ~15 minutes
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[18:51:44] <Hoack> Thanks everybody! I was able to get things working again!
[18:53:08] <banoss> kutzi : found a break scenario. But only if there's a problem during POM parsing - ERROR: Failed to parse POMs. So no modules build. Next build again only picks up scm changes and 'misses' the unbuilt modules.
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[18:55:21] <kutzi> yeah, I think that's a general problem with the maven job. When POM parsing fails, a lot is broken
[18:55:28] <kutzi> Do you have a stack trace?
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[18:56:32] <olamy> ah sure we need modules
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[18:58:45] <kutzi> maybe the whole ModuleSetBuild should be marked in that case, so that a full build is triggered the next time?
[18:59:48] <olamy> yup an idea to fix that and don't to the incremtal stuff
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[19:04:06] <kutzi> that would be another Action attached to the build, right? Or is there a better way to store something to a build?
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[19:04:34] <olamy> I can see only "action"
[19:04:35] <jenkinsci_builds> Project jenkins_main_trunk build #624: SUCCESS in 33 min: http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/job/jenkins_main_trunk/624/
[19:04:36] <jenkinsci_builds> Stephen Connolly: Adding a TransientComputerActionFactory. Note that the transient actions are never updated, so to make actions appear to be added dynammically you need to always add them and control their display, rather than conditionally add them.  This is the same behaviour as for TransientViewActionFactory but not quite the same behaviour as TransientProjectActionFactory
[19:05:16] <olamy> kutzi your patch seems fine let's merge it to master
[19:05:37] <olamy> I don't have a jenkins instance as huge as the ASF one where we have some issues with this
[19:05:54] <olamy> but when this will be release we will be able to test in the ASF instance
[19:09:08] <kutzi> Our instance is also nearly not as huge as the ASF one, but we've already a lot of maven jobs, too
[19:09:44] <kutzi> So, I hope we will finally find the time to update our (still hudson) instance
[19:10:05] <olamy> :-)
[19:10:19] <olamy> so let's merge it in master : onward !
[19:10:26] <kutzi> Unfortunately, until now there have always been more important things to do than to update our ci server :-(
[19:10:31] <kutzi> I've pushed it!
[19:11:40] <olamy> cool
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[19:12:15] <olamy> regarding maven repo cleaner (m2-reaper ?)
[19:12:26] <olamy> I think there is plugin concurrency :-)
[19:12:31] <olamy> with this one : https://github.com/jenkinsci/maven-repo-cleaner-plugin
[19:14:12] <kutzi> I wonder how I can get rid of the JENKINS-7535 branch on github now?
[19:14:22] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-7535:Rebuilding dependency graph slow on large installations (Resolved) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/7535
[19:14:27] <olamy> branch -d ?
[19:14:52] <olamy> then push ?
[19:14:59] <kutzi> Yeah, I've done it localy
[19:15:08] <kutzi> but it won't push the deletion!?
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[19:16:02] <kutzi> repo reaper: I've created a 3rd one, because I didn't know about the other 2. https://github.com/kutzi/jenkins-purge-local-repository-plugin ;-(
[19:16:09] <olamy> arf
[19:16:23] <kutzi> I'll try to merge it with the m2-repo-reaper
[19:16:37] <kutzi> the repo cleaner seems to work a little differently
[19:17:00] <olamy> your purge remove only snapshot ?
[19:17:07] <kutzi> no
[19:17:45] <kutzi> it will clean the whole repository (or only the configured group ids)
[19:18:16] <olamy> ah
[19:18:26] <kutzi> the idea is, that the build should be able to get everything again from Nexus
[19:18:37] <olamy> the maven-repo-cleaner-plugin use last access time on files
[19:18:59] <olamy> to remove artifacts not used since very long time
[19:19:35] <kutzi> also a good idea. But your plugin runs asynchronously, right?
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[19:20:12] <kutzi> I thought it would be simpler to do it in a buildwrapper#
[19:20:16] <olamy> yup
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[19:21:06] <olamy> it's AsyncPeriodicWork
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[19:27:31] <olamy> kutzi see you later
[19:27:39] <kutzi> bye
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[19:34:02] <RSchulzB> Oh? Nevermind. I misinterpreted some ps output...
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[20:20:50] <jenkinsci_builds> Christoph Kutzinski: record changes for JENKINS-7535
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[20:32:39] <gsiaw> how do you uninstall jenkins on windows?
[20:33:38] <kutzi> http://jenkins-ci.org/content/windows-installers-are-now-available
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[20:35:03] <gsiaw> thanks!
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[21:24:05] <Creeture> Anybody ever have a need for a "Poll Now" button in addition to "Build Now" ?
[21:24:53] <rtyler> and it'd only build if new changes existed?
[21:25:03] <Creeture> yah
[21:25:27] <rtyler> I personally wouldn't have a use for it, seems like something useful to create a simple plugin for :)
[21:25:44] <Creeture> Agreed. I need to build a plugin anyway, see how that whole deal works.
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[21:44:31] <olamy> abayer kohsuke you would prefer Paris it's more sunny than Germany :P
[21:44:46] <abayer> olamy: I'm doing both. And London. So there. =)
[21:45:09] <kohsuke> I'm actually going to Paris as well, later that month
[21:45:17] <olamy> oh London an other rainy place :-)
[21:45:30] <abayer> Jeez, we're both just wandering around western Europe this year. =)
[21:45:38] <olamy> nice
[21:45:54] <olamy> I can probably try to setup meetup stuff
[21:46:00] <kohsuke> That'd be great!
[21:46:11] <olamy> when will you be there ?
[21:46:52] <kutzi> olamy there are sunny days in Hamburg, too
[21:47:00] <olamy> hehe
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[21:47:21] <olamy> end of april or after germany ?
[21:47:54] <kohsuke> olamy: are you asking me?
[21:48:03] <olamy> kohsuke yup
[21:48:24] <kohsuke> Paris would be around 5/26-5/29 ish
[21:48:31] <olamy> k
[21:48:47] <olamy> do you have setup some stuff for conference room ?
[21:49:30] <kohsuke> No, currently I don't really have any setup.
[21:49:36] <olamy> you want I try to find something ?
[21:49:37] <kohsuke> I was hoping to find some user willing to host us
[21:49:53] <kohsuke> Yes, if you know someone, it'd be great if you can.
[21:50:07] <kutzi> kohsuke so when you want to cover a different part of germany than abayer - i.e. north germany - what about Hamburg? :)
[21:50:10] <olamy> do we need a large conference room ?
[21:50:39] <abayer> kutzi: sorry. Munich asked first. And I have a coworker there. =)
[21:51:01] <kohsuke> Yeah, I'm happy to do Hamburg
[21:51:08] <kohsuke> Let me see how far away it is...
[21:51:32] <kohsuke> olamy: I think it depends on how many we can attract. The most successful one we've done in the past was around 20-30 people
[21:51:35] <sattski> Hamburg is quite nice.
[21:51:42] <kohsuke> The least successful one is just me and another guy :-)
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[21:51:49] <olamy> :-)
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[21:52:09] <kohsuke> I think Paris is a big city so I'm pretty sure we do more than just me and another guy
[21:52:15] <sattski> btw
[21:52:23] <olamy> kohsuke ok I will try to setup something
[21:52:28] <sattski> anyone using eclipse with maven plugin for plugin development?
[21:52:39] <olamy> and ask some companies to host this
[21:52:42] <kutzi> I could contact the JUG Hamburg. I'm sure there would be lots of interest
[21:52:46] <kohsuke> sattski: I'm sure a lot of us do, although I don't.
[21:52:53] <sattski> hehe
[21:52:56] <kohsuke> kutzi: olamy: thanks!
[21:53:08] <kutzi> sattski: I'm doing it
[21:53:22] <sattski> Cannot seem to get the debug mode to work with maven, I'm using m2eclipse for the clearcase plugin
[21:53:34] <sattski> that is, the set breakpoints doesnt halt the execution
[21:53:50] <kutzi> you're running it with mvnDebug.sh?
[21:54:01] <sattski> I'm on a windows machine.
[21:54:37] <kutzi> I usually run jenkins with mvnDebug from the command prompt and use attach tom remote process in eclipse
[21:54:39] <olamy> abayer you will be there too ?
[21:54:54] <abayer> olamy: I'll be there a month later. =)
[21:55:02] <olamy> k
[21:55:15] <olamy> so an other meetup to setup :-)
[21:55:17] <sattski> kutzi: alright
[21:55:28] <abayer> =)
[21:55:28] <kutzi> kohsuke, around what date would you be in Hamburg?
[21:55:49] <kohsuke> kutzi: Mainz-Hamburg is like 4 hours in train?
[21:56:03] <kohsuke> According to DB Bahn
[21:56:11] <kutzi> A bit more, I guess.
[21:56:17] <kutzi> let me check
[21:57:27] <abayer> btw, I just got official word that we'll definitely be having a Ruby-centric meetup in San Francisco on Wednesday evening, April 13th. =)
[21:57:39] <kohsuke> Great
[21:57:47] <kutzi> 4,5 - 6 h depending on if you get a goot connection
[21:57:53] <kutzi> good
[21:57:56] <sattski> anyone going to SIGCOMM '11?
[21:59:11] <olamy> sattski you should try intellij
[21:59:28] <kohsuke> kutzi: Wikipedia says Hamburg is the 2nd largest city in Germany.
[21:59:37] <kutzi> that's right
[21:59:54] <abayer> It has currywurst, right?
[22:00:03] <sattski> olamy: does it support socks proxy? :-)
[22:00:08] <kohsuke> I'm trying to make sure that it's the right place to have a meet-up --- it's easier to attract people when there are bigger number of them to begin with.
[22:00:21] <olamy> sattski socks proxy to do what ??
[22:00:25] <kutzi> yes, we invented the currywurst - like several other cities, too ;)
[22:00:35] <abayer> I discovered currywurst in Berlin and fell in love. =)
[22:00:44] <sattski> olamy: the company firewall is quite nasty, blocks everything that isn't through their system.
[22:00:54] <sattski> olamy: all the maven repo fetch are blocked :)
[22:01:06] <kutzi> Yeah, Berlin claims, too, that they invented it. But they don#t know what they're talking about
[22:01:12] <abayer> =)
[22:01:14] <sattski> currently I proxy everything over http proxy wrapped in socks proxy on a ssh connection
[22:01:21] <sattski> easier than to get the sysadmin to loosen the firewall.
[22:01:34] <olamy> sattski ouch
[22:01:38] <abayer> If it weren't for my co-worker in Munich, I'd happily switch to Hamburg, just for the chance to eat more currywurst.
[22:01:42] <sattski> olamy: yep :D
[22:02:22] <kohsuke> kutzi: should it be a hackathon in the weekend or a meetup in the weekday evening?
[22:02:37] <kohsuke> ... or we could do both.
[22:03:07] <kohsuke> 5/1 and/or 5/2 would be ideal
[22:03:16] <kutzi> k
[22:03:46] <kohsuke> (I need to double-check with my boss first, I guess)
[22:03:53] <kutzi> meetup in weekday evening sounds good
[22:04:02] <kohsuke> Good
[22:05:16] <kutzi> do you already have an idea what would be on the agenda?
[22:06:08] <kohsuke> We normally start seeking for people who are willing to give a talk
[22:06:41] <kohsuke> In elsewhere, talks that describe how they are using Jenkins have been very interesting
[22:07:03] <kohsuke> People seem to learn a lot by comparing what they do.
[22:07:17] <kohsuke> I'd be also happy to talk to fill the time, etc.
[22:07:30] <kohsuke> kutzi: Would you be interested in talking?
[22:07:35] <kutzi> and audience should be ideally people already using jenkins or also people trying to get into CI?
[22:07:36] <kohsuke> I think that would be great.
[22:07:52] <kohsuke> Yeah, that's normally the kind of people who'd show up, yes.
[22:08:10] <kohsuke> (whereas if I'm visiting a JUG to talk, more introductory talk is often better)
[22:08:59] <kutzi> let me into contact with the JUG. i think there was already a Hudson introduction not too long ago
[22:09:10] <kutzi> so we could maybe do something more in depth
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[22:09:37] <kutzi> I'm also thinking about giving a talk
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[22:13:35] <kohsuke> kutzi: do you know other German folks in our community?
[22:13:51] <kutzi> apart from swiest? Hmm
[22:13:55] <kohsuke> I'd like to contact them and encourage them to give a talk
[22:14:11] <kohsuke> I don't know exactly where Simon lives, but I recall he lives in south
[22:14:16] <abayer> drulli, right?
[22:14:21] <kohsuke> Of course!!!
[22:14:24] <kohsuke> how could I forget!!!
[22:14:32] <kohsuke> OK, writing an e-mail...
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[22:17:49] <kutzi> By looking on the dev-list, which names sound german:
[22:18:14] <kutzi> mirko friedenhagen
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[22:19:00] <kutzi> Sven Strittmatter (weltraumschaf)
[22:19:35] <kutzi> Claus gebert
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[22:21:45] <kohsuke> Thanks for the list
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[22:25:10] <kutzi> I think Claus also only appeared once, but the 3 others are more or less frequent visitors
[22:25:39] <kohsuke> Yeah, I recognize Mirko
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[22:25:46] <kohsuke> It helps that he puts his face on GitHub avatar.
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[22:32:47] <rpetti> why look like your self of the internet when you can be anything you want? :P
[22:32:51] <rpetti> *on the internet
[22:34:12] <gmcdonald> Im a toad
[22:37:46] <rtyler> ribbit
[22:38:37] <larrys> rtyler: I figured more of a troll than a toad. *duck*
[22:38:48] <rtyler> what do water fowl have to do with this?
[22:39:14] <larrys> Toads live in/near water, as do ducks.
[22:39:39] <olamy> kohsuke I see the dates you will be there http://www.whatsnextparis.com/ ?
[22:40:41] <kohsuke> Yes
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[22:41:44] <olamy> maybe zenika can have a room somewhere else for the user meetup
[22:42:48] <olamy> this wat's next stuff won't be a very "geek" meeting :-)
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[22:47:24] <kohsuke> Possibly. Yes.
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[23:04:58] <rcampbell__> hello
[23:05:16] <rcampbell__> I have a pagedecorator which would like to include dynamic content via the footer.jelly
[23:05:39] <rcampbell__> specifically using refreshPart() javascript
[23:06:02] <rcampbell__> however, I'm having a hard time determining the url to my ajax snippet
[23:06:36] <rcampbell__> the page decorator is not a part of the Hudson object graph that I can see
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[23:09:53] <rcampbell__> aha! /descriptorByName/com.cloudbees.PageDecorator/foo
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[23:23:17] <kohsuke> rcampbell__: I think there's a method on Descriptor that returns it
[23:23:58] <rcampbell__> ah, I see
[23:24:10] <kohsuke> ... or not. I should add it.
[23:24:13] <rcampbell__> so I don't have to hard code it
[23:24:21] <rcampbell__> yes: getDescriptorUrl
[23:24:38] <kohsuke> Yeah ${rootUrl}/${d.descriptorUrl} would do
[23:24:47] <rcampbell__> even better thanks
[23:24:57] <rcampbell__> I'm loving refreshPart, that's very nice
[23:25:10] <kohsuke> Thanks
[23:25:31] <rcampbell__> reminds me of richfaces, but without the JSF complexity ;-)
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