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[00:17:07] <kohsuke> aheritier: I guess its just instinctively done. Concurrency is easier to handle when those objects are immutable
[00:17:30] <kohsuke> But in many cases adding the setters isn't a problem
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[00:17:53] <kohsuke> It might be also possible to do some generic coding to let you clone with modifications
[00:18:04] <kohsuke> especially in Groovy
[00:19:40] <aheritier> yes one of both options may be fine. I should note where I find that it is missing
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[00:21:36] <aheritier> I remember that this afternoon I was playing with a groovy script to cleanup permissions in all jobs. But it isn't possible to remove a permission (or I didn't find). You have to recreate the PermissionMatrixProperty, remove the old one and add the new one.
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[00:56:33] <taco> Thanks for getting the logo submissions up, guys.
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[01:20:24] <mwhudson> i've asked this before, but would now like more details: can a jenkins slave cause arbitrary code to be executed on the master?
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[01:20:51] <lifeless> uhm
[01:21:06] <lifeless> I don't think the master has a RemoteCodeLoader present on it.
[01:21:26] <lifeless> the remoting protocol is basically a class loader that runs on the slave
[01:21:45] <lifeless> the slave itself is just enough code to get a trusted connection to the master and the bootstrap class loader.
[01:22:03] <lifeless> I can imagine two sorts of arbitrary code to run on the master:
[01:22:11] <lifeless> existing classes with surprising parameters
[01:22:17] <lifeless> brand new classes
[01:22:31] <lifeless> for the latter, I *think* we're safe: but it might be nice to check
[01:23:05] <lifeless> for the former, I'd need to look into how callbacks are serialised - whether its a call-forward from the slave (we'd be at risk) or purely a result returning from the slave
[01:23:16] <lifeless> note that a result returning from the slave can be a remotely instantiated object
[01:23:54] <lifeless> so, for instance, if there was a bug in TestResult, a slave could construct a hostilely-parameterised TestResult and return it to a legitimate call that expects a TestResult returned.
[01:24:15] <lifeless> mwhudson: in writing this I've convinced myself I could almost certainly do some serious mischief
[01:25:23] <mwhudson> lifeless: some of the details passed over my head, but that's not entirely reassuring :/
[01:26:10] <lifeless> mwhudson: familiar with pb ?
[01:26:25] <lifeless> (twisted thing)
[01:26:26] <mwhudson> lifeless: somewhat
[01:26:42] <lifeless> very similar model except it doesn't have classloaders
[01:26:47] <lifeless> you write some code
[01:26:53] <lifeless> and something takes care of object serialisation for you
[01:27:20] <lifeless> the attack vector is that the other side can inject *arbitrary* [within type constraints] values into objects they create and return to you
[01:28:01] <lifeless> so if your code (for instance) doesn't bounds check an array, the other side can give you an array that you will run off the end of. things like htat
[01:28:11] <mwhudson> right
[01:28:50] <mwhudson> i guess the difference between ssh slaves and ... the other kind ... here is all in the set up, they're the same once it's all running?
[01:28:59] <lifeless> yes
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[01:55:14] <beltorak> hi all; i am wondering if there's a way to schedule a build every 2 weeks?
[01:56:19] <beltorak> I would like to use jenkins to close out a sprint by performing an automatic tag and POM verion update.... does anyone know if there's an "advanced schedule" plugin available?
[01:57:51] <kohsuke> beltorak: indeed crontab syntax doesn't have a way of saying "every other Monday" or something like that
[01:58:00] <kohsuke> Time to write a plugin!
[01:58:15] <beltorak> hehehe; thats what i figured, i was hoping there was one already
[01:58:21] <beltorak> not sure if i have the bandwidth for it
[01:58:43] <kohsuke> When you do, let us know. I'd be happy to point you to the relevant info
[01:58:51] <kohsuke> I think this would be really simple
[02:00:11] <beltorak> i could probably throw something together but i'd like something with the flexibilty of the windows advanced scheduler for the scheduled tasks.... well maybe not that complex
[02:00:35] <beltorak> well i'll stop by if i can free up the time for writing it
[02:00:38] <beltorak> thanks
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[02:24:28] <chriswilliams> Good evening...I need some help tracking down a remote ssh issue
[02:24:33] <chriswilliams> The log can be found here: http://pastebin.com/PJCuXKmN
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[02:43:16] <chriswilliams> Anyone here that can help with a ssh issue?
[02:43:49] <mwhudson> chriswilliams: the pastebin suggested several places to look, i take it you've done that?
[02:44:39] <chriswilliams> Guess not...
[02:44:50] <chriswilliams> Do I just click the link above and search?
[02:45:07] <mwhudson> chriswilliams: i meant this bit:
[02:45:08] <mwhudson> #
[02:45:08] <mwhudson> SSH connection reports a garbage before a command execution.
[02:45:08] <mwhudson> #
[02:45:08] <mwhudson> Check your .bashrc, .profile, and so on to make sure it is quiet.
[02:45:09] <mwhudson> #
[02:45:11] <mwhudson> The received junk text is as follows:
[02:45:13] <mwhudson> #
[02:45:15] <mwhudson> stty: : Invalid argument
[02:45:25] <mwhudson> it sounds like something in say .bashrc is invoking stty carelessly
[02:45:36] <chriswilliams> That is the error I am getting....looking for ways to try and debug
[02:45:47] <chriswilliams> when i ssh from my terminal, I don't see those errors
[02:46:26] <mwhudson> right... but something is invoking stty
[02:46:35] <mwhudson> find out what, and make it more careful
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[02:47:08] <mwhudson> it's not a surprised that stty works when you log in from a terminal, because stdin probably actually is a tty in this situation
[02:47:42] <chriswilliams> Ok...was hoping to maybe see if there was a way to get a line number.  I commented out the two placed that was callng stty and I still saw the error.
[02:47:48] <chriswilliams> Guess I will have  to keep digging
[02:49:03] <kohsuke> try ssh without tty allocation to simulate the scripted ssh invocation with ssh -T
[02:49:05] <chriswilliams> Not sure if it matters but I am logging in to a solaris 10 box and my shell is c-shell
[02:49:27] <chriswilliams> OK...I will try the -T tomorrow
[02:49:30] <chriswilliams> thanks
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[02:49:43] <kohsuke> The error message says it all, really. It's in your login scripts
[02:50:44] <chriswilliams> Yea...I must have missed one since I thought I had them all removed
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[02:51:49] <chriswilliams> Thanks for the help.  Since my box is at work (no remote access) I will try again tomorrow
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[04:17:43] <WillianReis> o mejor escribe
[04:18:10] <WillianReis> Tengo dudas sobre plugin VirtualBox
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[04:19:17] <rtyler> WillianReis: it's typically english speakers around here
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[04:21:40] <rtyler> d'oh!
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[08:50:27] <resmo_> hi
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[08:57:37] <resmo_> hmm jenkins-ID? No clue what that is...
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[09:08:40] <drulli> jenkins ID is your login to Jenkins' infrastructure like Jira, Confluence, etc. You can request a new account using a link on the homepage.
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[09:11:29] <dannyD_> hiii..
[09:11:56] <dannyD_> im trying to learn about jenkins and the world around it.. but i dont know what to read and try out..
[09:12:29] <dannyD_> whats the best way to learn jenkins??
[09:12:58] <schwullo> doing it.
[09:15:28] <dannyD_> schwullo: ok but ..huh ..are there any tutorial to do and follow?
[09:15:30] <resmo_> dannyD_, first of all, learn what continuous integration (alias CI) is,
[09:15:44] <dannyD_> resmo_: ok, ill google that..
[09:16:18] <dannyD_> and then there is FT .. right? something like function test..
[09:16:36] <dannyD_> im on level 0 as you notice..
[09:17:39] <dannyD_> is jenkins something for "normal" developers..or only for company projects?
[09:18:41] <resmo_> dannyD_, I use it for my own, it is just easy to use, and really helps make those things automated which can be done automated
[09:19:10] <resmo_> watching changes, testing, building, deploying, informing...
[09:19:30] <resmo_> (it is really a buttler) :)
[09:19:55] <resmo_> i use it for shell scripts, php, java, grails.
[09:21:02] <dannyD_> resmo_: wow.. now your a kind of advanced user i guess... what are you developing..or do you just get rid of all boring task/things to jenkins?
[09:31:42] <resmo_> dannyD_, yes jenkins makes all the boring, the "daily business" work for me, and let me doing the interesting stuff.
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[09:32:03] <resmo_> drulli, ahh, thx
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[09:44:50] <_Aeris_> kikoo
[09:45:31] <dannyD_> resmo_: ok I see.. ill try it out, id like a servent too :-)
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[10:00:19] <aheritier> dannyD_: it may help you : http://www.wakaleo.com/books/continuous-integration-with-hudson-the-book
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[10:01:10] <aheritier> It will be renamed Jenkins : The definitive guide soon
[10:02:21] <dannyD_> aheritier: thanxs.. yes right now im reading about the drama of forking jenkis from the hudson project.. are oracle the evil guys now?
[10:04:32] <resmo_> dannyD_, they have always been since every IMHO, see openoffice, mysql, java....
[10:05:22] <resmo_> no clue what stuff they smoked
[10:05:46] <dannyD_> well, they are a company.. maybe they dont know how to make money in a honest  way :-)
[10:06:11] <aheritier> They just don't know how to do it with an active OSS community
[10:07:13] <resmo_> but AFAIK the drama about oracle help pushed jenkins even more.
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[10:13:59] <dannyD_> IMHO it seems good then :-) AFAIK this jenkins looks good! i like when there is an active community...
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[10:29:13] <dannyD_> aheritier: i dont find the book files "Go to this page now and download the book-examples zip file" ?...where is it?
[10:31:04] <dannyD_> aheritier: ok ive found it..it was kind of hidden i must say..
[10:31:10] <dannyD_> :D
[10:31:12] <aheritier> :-)
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[10:31:49] <dannyD_> you could change that :-) so it links directly to the files.. maybe,,
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[10:37:37] <aheritier> you can contact John (john.smart at wakaleo dot com). He is the author
[10:37:49] <aheritier> We should see with him to add a link from Jenkins website
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[10:46:27] <dannyD_> aha..
[10:46:40] <dannyD_> i thought it was you :-D
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[11:20:02] <dannyD_> do you guys use Tomcat..or do you start hudson directly from the command line?
[11:21:02] <proofek> hello guys, is there any sort of way to create a view remotely? found this http://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-8927 which I suspect gives me a no answer, but wanna double check
[11:21:29] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8927:Create a view from the XML API (Open) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8927
[11:24:55] <resmo_> dannyD_, there is no need for tomcat if you are just using jenkins on the system. If you use tomcat anywany, drop the war to tomcat.
[11:25:13] <dannyD_> oki!
[11:30:18] * jasonb runs it on Tomcat, of course.
[11:40:33] <aheritier> dannyD_: myself on tomcat because I standardized all our production with Tomcat. Otherwise you have native installers for many platforms
[11:44:14] * dannyD_ oki..
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[13:46:15] <dannyD_> how do i get my java homepath from the commandline in windows? heelp
[13:47:09] <aheritier> %JAVA_HOME% ?
[13:47:23] <aheritier> If you defined it as system property
[14:14:55] <dannyD_> hmm..
[14:15:03] <dannyD_> ive set jenkins to download java..
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[14:15:54] <dannyD_> but now i get Unable to access svn://localhost/gameoflife/trunk :  svn: connection refused by the server........
[14:16:21] <dannyD_> how come? its only local..its the first example from the book......
[14:16:24] <dannyD_> help?
[14:18:54] <resmo_> dannyD_, do you really have a svn server running on localhost?
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[14:19:42] <dannyD_> yes,, i got the same output as in the book..
[14:20:21] <dannyD_> like this: .classpath .project .settings/ pom.xml src/
[14:20:41] <dannyD_> im reading this post: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4297576/subversion-not-accessible-by-hudson-svnconnection-refused-by-server
[14:20:46] <dannyD_> same thing for me..
[14:21:21] <mwalling_> are you using slaves?
[14:24:03] <dannyD_> huh? no.. nno that i know of..im noob..but its a company computer so..
[14:24:26] <resmo_> dannyD_, sorry I am not using windows, but it looks to me like a firewall rule which blocks the access
[14:24:29] <richvdh> it's probably some sort of firewall issue
[14:24:36] <richvdh> heh :)
[14:24:39] <resmo_> :)
[14:24:44] <dannyD_> mm i guess so :-)
[14:25:04] <resmo_> dannyD_, try this usl
[14:25:09] <resmo_> this url http://svn.github.com/resmo/libjsms
[14:25:47] <dannyD_> incomplete headers
[14:26:42] <resmo_> not in the browser in svn
[14:27:17] <resmo_> or better open the port 3690 in your windows firewall
[14:28:05] <resmo_> this port is used for the svn:// protocol
[14:28:40] <dannyD_> i did try this: svnserve -d --listen-port 3690 --listen-host 127.0.0.1 -r svn-repos
[14:29:10] <resmo_> dannyD_, opening port on windows http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Open-a-port-in-Windows-Firewall
[14:29:49] <dannyD_> i dont even have my firewall on... wierd..so??..
[14:30:27] <dannyD_> so its not a firewall problem then?
[14:32:49] <resmo_> on same pc right?
[14:33:06] <resmo_> i mean jenkins and subersion?
[14:34:07] <dannyD_> huh? im only using one machine..
[14:34:19] <dannyD_> and the firewall is off
[14:34:28] <resmo_> this is weird
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[14:35:15] <dannyD_> right..very..
[14:35:50] <resmo_> dannyD_, you can access svn by command line right?
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[14:38:43] <dannyD_> yes..
[14:38:48] <dannyD_> just did that..
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[14:38:58] <dannyD_> resmo_: hmm...
[14:40:20] <resmo_> dannyD_, this way  svn list svn://localhost/gameoflife/trunk  ?
[14:44:12] <dannyD_> yes its like that..
[14:44:58] <dannyD_> but.. in the /configure   where ive set JAva and maven. should i enter someting on svn also? the books does not say anything about it..
[14:45:33] <dannyD_> 8080/configure
[14:47:09] <dannyD_> Like should i enter something in Subversion Workspace version: 1.4  Exclusion revprop name.. ? ,, not right.. huh..
[14:47:13] <dannyD_> clueles..
[14:47:17] <dannyD_> S..
[14:47:58] <richvdh> you shouldn't need to configure anything there
[14:49:06] <richvdh> might be worth explicitly specifying the port number... "svn://localhost:3690/gameoflife/trunk"
[14:49:11] <richvdh> but i'm grasping at straws.
[14:49:14] <schwullo> Uh, i've having some difficulties with maven dependencies for clearcase plugin
[14:49:35] <resmo_> dannyD_, and try replace localhost with 127.0.0.1
[14:49:36] <schwullo> it says "failure to transfer org.vnet.hudson.plugins:plugin:pom.1.358 etc etc
[14:49:44] <dannyD_> oki,,
[14:49:50] <schwullo> anyone knowing where I can fetch more information regarding how to import the build
[14:50:08] <schwullo> im trying to get clearcase plugin imported in eclipse for testing some bugs.
[14:50:09] <schwullo> :-)
[14:50:25] <hsoj> hrm
[14:50:48] <hsoj> looking over the issues list, it doesn't look like much has been done in way of matrix builds =/
[14:51:35] <hsoj> is the job type not common?
[14:53:52] <schwullo> well, I see that the clearcase plugin strips the beginning slash from the load path
[14:54:03] <schwullo> such that /vobs/somevob becmoes vobs/somevob
[14:54:09] <schwullo> which lshistory cannot interpert correctly
[14:54:45] <schwullo> I have tested to input different starts but they all get wiped away, would be easier to test the specific method which does the stripping.
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[15:01:01] <drulli> jenkins-admin: Make lak-praqma  a committer on github
[15:01:04] <jenkins-admin> I didn't understand the command
[15:01:24] <drulli> jenkins-admin: help
[15:01:25] <jenkins-admin> See http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/IRC+Bot
[15:02:38] <drulli> jenkins-admin: Give lak-praqma a commit access on github
[15:02:46] <jenkins-admin> Added lak-praqma as a GitHub committer
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[15:13:10] <efwe> hi there, if i cancel a manually triggered build during the svn-up phase it is evaluated as a FAILURE build. is this a feature or a bug?
[15:15:39] <efwe> http://nopaste.info/8210cde3a3.html
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[15:23:01] <fw> hm
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[15:27:23] <hsoj> efwe: I would consider it a failure
[15:27:48] <hsoj> it's a portion of the build cycle, if it failed for any reason, the entire cycle failed
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[15:33:51] <efwe> hsoj: of course! i wanted to point on the 'manually canelled' fact.
[15:34:39] <efwe> if something goes wrong with svn during autobuild it is a failure. if i request a cancelation via button-press this should not be considered a failure.
[15:35:13] <dannyD_> help..
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[15:35:34] <dannyD_> im trying to get to the svn rep.. and i get ' handshake failed' .......
[15:35:39] <dannyD_> whats that?!
[15:36:30] <hsoj> efwe: if you're a one man environment, that may make sense toyou
[15:36:43] <hsoj> it's still a failure to complete the job
[15:37:08] <hsoj> if you had a multi-man team, you manually cancelled the job and an external member doesn't see it as a failure
[15:37:18] <hsoj> they may consider that the entire cycle was completed as desired
[15:38:13] <mjmac> is anyone aware of a relatively recent list of public jenkins installations?  i'd like to do a survey of job naming conventions, but my google-fu is failing me.
[15:38:37] <hsoj> ours is lowercase s/\ /-
[15:39:57] <efwe> i have something like: $product_$customer_$version -> eap_ch_trunk
[15:40:01] * makr2 uses Matrix builds
[15:40:33] <hsoj> heh
[15:40:48] <hsoj> I am hating matrix builds  so much =(
[15:40:57] <hsoj> if only the shit would work as intended
[15:41:09] <mjmac> why?  we're just about to start migrating to matrix builds
[15:41:23] <hsoj> if you're using parameterized builds, they don't work
[15:41:32] <efwe> hsoj: hm, in fact we have 3 teams and they asked me why they got a failure-mail although i itentionally cancelled the build.
[15:41:42] <hsoj> java.lang.IllegalStateException: This build is not parameterized!
[15:41:58] <mjmac> fun
[15:42:01] <hsoj> efwe: that's them bitching because they're getting mail
[15:42:05] <hsoj> no one wants to get email they don't need
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[15:42:19] <hsoj> if they were looking over the job status, and just blindly saw it was not a failure
[15:42:28] <hsoj> they might state that the process completed, biting them in the ass
[15:42:33] <hsoj> so let them bitch  about emails ;)
[15:43:52] <hsoj> mjmac: also, the console logs are borked when you build a specific label/node
[15:43:54] <makr2> From the 50+ jobs we have here, about 30 are matrix builds. Most of them are parameterized and get triggered through upstream builds.
[15:44:14] <efwe> ok. i see your point. operating for instance can not use this build for deployment or whatever - so it is essentially a failure.
[15:44:25] <hsoj> efwe: correct
[15:44:33] <hsoj> I understand your side as well, don't get me wrong
[15:44:51] <hsoj> but it's more a niceity for you than it's mission critical to functionality kind of thing
[15:45:17] <mjmac> makr2: are you running a recent jenkins release?
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[15:45:45] <makr2> nope. we are still on 391
[15:45:53] <hsoj> http://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-8735
[15:45:57] <hsoj> hrm
[15:46:01] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8735:Matrix job does not recognize parameterized build when triggered remotely (Open) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8735
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[15:46:37] <makr2> ok, we don't use remote triggers
[15:46:40] <hsoj> ah
[15:47:11] <makr2> and ... we pass the parameters by a property file
[15:47:21] <hsoj>  hrm?
[15:47:28] <hsoj> well guess that won't change anything for me
[15:47:46] <hsoj> the way the remote trigger is calling the job is incorrect
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[15:52:43] <hsoj> basically, I've chased my issue down to ParametersDefinitionProperty not returning valid results for matrix style jobs
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[16:33:42] <dannyD_> hii...
[16:33:48] <RSchulzB> I sure wish I could get a little love for this bug: http://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-8881
[16:33:51] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8881:After Log Rolling, Pervious, Uncompressed Log File is Deleted But _Not_ Closed and its Disk Space Not Freed (Open) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8881
[16:33:55] <dannyD_> im behind a company proxy.. and i get this:...
[16:33:56] <dannyD_> Unable to access svn://localhost:8080/gameoflife/trunk : svn: Handshake failed, received:
[16:34:11] <dannyD_> ive chande the servers file in subversion..
[16:34:19] <dannyD_> changed..   but ..
[16:34:23] <dannyD_> not luck..help
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[16:41:29] <dannyD_> hey guys.. im really .. stuck
[16:41:48] <dannyD_> i cant get my svn repository to be found by the jenkins web gui..
[16:41:58] <dannyD_> im behind a proxy..
[16:42:10] <dannyD_> what should i change to make it work??
[16:44:09] <dannyD_> what should i put in this file? "~/.subversion".
[16:44:31] <dannyD_> should it be the proxy.. or.. the port 3690 .. for jenkins?!?
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[16:46:19] <richvdh> dannyD_, i thought you were running subversion and jenkins on the same box?
[16:46:29] <dannyD_> yes
[16:46:29] <richvdh> so what is an (http?) proxy to do with it?
[16:46:36] <dannyD_> i dont know..
[16:46:44] <dannyD_> i do know we have one..
[16:46:51] <dannyD_> and maybe that ... oh..
[16:46:54] <dannyD_> mm..
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[16:47:20] <dannyD_> but why cant jenkins find my subversion repo then?? the command line can...
[16:47:26] <richvdh> i don't know
[16:47:36] <richvdh> what happened when you did what we suggested earlier?
[16:47:53] <richvdh> <richvdh> might be worth explicitly specifying the port number... "svn://localhost:3690/gameoflife/trunk"
[16:48:05] <richvdh> <resmo_> dannyD_, and try replace localhost with 127.0.0.1
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[16:48:12] <dannyD_> iv edid
[16:48:13] <troels> Hi. I'm having trouble releasing my plugin to jenkins. Error: Failed to transfer file: http://maven.jenkins-ci.org:8081/content/repositories/releases/org/jvnet/hudson/plugins/PUCM/0.3.0/PUCM-0.3.0.hpi. Return code is: 401. I have tried with user+pass in commandline and in settings.xml. Same error. Does my jekins-account have to be connected to the repository somehow?
[16:48:24] <dannyD_> ive tryed all combos.. its killing meee
[16:49:11] <dannyD_> richvdh: so,..the subversion ..servers file..i should let the be alone right..?
[16:49:26] <richvdh> so did you get "configuration refused" or "handshake error"?
[16:49:34] <dannyD_> both
[16:49:39] <richvdh> ffs
[16:49:45] <dannyD_> ffs?
[16:50:02] <dannyD_> handshake i got with 3690
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[16:50:38] <dannyD_> should i start subversion some special way?
[16:50:45] <dannyD_> specifing port or somethin?
[16:51:07] <dannyD_> richvdh: maybe like this: svnserve -d --listen-port 3690 --listen-host 127.0.0.1 -r svn-repos
[16:51:13] <dannyD_> good/bad?
[16:51:22] <richvdh> i thought you said that was how you started svnserve
[16:51:33] <hsoj> RSchulzB:
[16:51:37] <richvdh> so you are specifying the port. and the ip to bind to.
[16:51:37] <hsoj> err, early enter...
[16:51:48] <hsoj> that issue isn't really a show-stopper imo
[16:51:52] <dannyD_> yes.. and ive tryed the notmal way too.. ive tryed many..
[16:51:59] <hsoj> just use a log rotation utility
[16:52:22] <dannyD_> whaat?? im noob ..please KIS!
[16:52:25] <RSchulzB> hsoj: That doesn't do it. You have to recycle the Jenkins server to free the disk space.
[16:52:37] <hsoj> I never have to
[16:52:47] <hsoj> hell, I can cat /dev/null > jenkins.log
[16:52:50] <hsoj> and it's gravy
[16:52:51] <RSchulzB> So it doesn't affect you. Which platform?
[16:52:55] <hsoj> linux
[16:53:17] <RSchulzB> hsoj: You're still missing the point: The file has been deleted but not closed. In Unix systems, that keeps the file "alive."
[16:53:21] <richvdh> dannyD_: hsoj is talking to someone else. are you running commandline svn as the same user as jenkins runs as?
[16:53:50] <hsoj> RSchulzB: it's because you're deleting while the file socket is open
[16:53:57] <hsoj> you're going about removing incorrectly
[16:54:00] <dannyD_> richvdh: i dont know.. i guess so.. im not changing anything..
[16:54:01] <RSchulzB> Yes. That's the point. That's the bug.
[16:54:08] <hsoj> well, then that's a bug for *
[16:54:12] <RSchulzB> You have to shut down Jenkins to free the space.
[16:54:19] <RSchulzB> That makes it unsuitable for unattended operation.
[16:54:30] <hsoj> you need a better method of clearing your logs imo
[16:54:37] <hsoj> you're going to need to restart any daemon when you delete a file
[16:54:39] <RSchulzB> Sorry, that's not it.
[16:54:43] <RSchulzB> It's not about the log files.
[16:54:52] <RSchulzB> It's about the fact that Jenkins holds a descriptor open.
[16:55:00] <hsoj> as will most daemons
[16:55:03] <RSchulzB> Even after  unlinking / deleting the file.
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[16:55:07] <RSchulzB> Wrong.
[16:55:13] <hsoj> windows?
[16:55:14] <RSchulzB> Are you a contributor to the Jenkins code?
[16:55:17] <RSchulzB> No, Linux.
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[16:55:31] <RSchulzB> CentOS.
[16:55:32] <hsoj> I am not as I prefer not to write java
[16:55:55] <hsoj> how long have you been using linux if you don't mind me asking?
[16:56:07] <hsoj> it's never been suggested to delete a file while a daemon is running
[16:56:08] <hsoj> EVER
[16:56:10] <RSchulzB> May I include Unix in that?
[16:56:22] <richvdh> dannyD_, i don't really know to be honest. I haven't tried jenkins or subversion on windows, and i haven't tried using jenkins with the native subversion protocol.
[16:56:25] <hsoj> it's only been recently that some handle it gracefully
[16:56:40] <hsoj> this is why you use things like logrotate
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[16:57:19] <RSchulzB> You really are not getting the point. Jenkins rolled the log file, moved on to a new one but did not close the descriptor to the file it compressed. That means the file's disk space cannot be freed even though it has a link count of zero.
[16:57:21] <hsoj> RSchulzB: http://pastebin.com/mjSKFUDD
[16:57:28] <hsoj> oh, mine never rolls
[16:57:30] <RSchulzB> I've been using Unix since 1977.
[16:57:32] <hsoj> I have to roll my own
[16:57:33] <dannyD_> richvdh: so what do i do?..whats fool proof..? :-D
[16:57:34] <RSchulzB> Unix or Linux.
[16:57:44] <dannyD_> RSchulzB: wow :-) im born 77..
[16:57:45] <RSchulzB> OK. Enough of this.
[16:57:58] <hsoj> and actually
[16:58:01] <hsoj> YOU are missing the point
[16:58:07] <hsoj> I stated it's not really a show stopped
[16:58:10] <hsoj> s/stopped/stopper
[16:58:18] <hsoj> and gave you avenues to resolve the immediate issue
[16:58:26] <RSchulzB> It is if you want to leave Jenkins running indefinitely.
[16:58:31] <hsoj> no it iisnt
[16:58:34] <hsoj> read my pastebin
[16:58:35] <RSchulzB> Yes it is.
[16:58:40] <hsoj> I leave mine up 24/7
[16:58:54] <hsoj> ci:~$ uptime 10:59:07 up 19 days, 23:11,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.04
[16:58:56] <RSchulzB> Just because you don't encounter the problem doesn't mean it isn't a problem for those that do.
[16:59:03] <hsoj> that was only becuase it was an upgrade
[16:59:19] <hsoj> I was experiencing problems where the log would run to 10G w/n a day
[16:59:22] * rtyler yawns
[16:59:38] <hsoj> put logrotate in, no more issues
[17:00:01] <RSchulzB> Nothing done from outside Jenkins (other than restarting it) will allow that space to be reclaimed. Period.
[17:00:04] <hsoj> anywho, take the help or not
[17:00:15] <RSchulzB> It doesn't help.
[17:00:17] <richvdh> dannyD_, you might try clearing out %HOME%/.subversion for the user which jenkins runs as
[17:00:20] <RSchulzB> Why don't you get that?
[17:00:23] <hsoj> that's your prerogative
[17:00:29] <hsoj> ok, fine. it doesnt...
[17:00:32] <RSchulzB> Absolutely.
[17:01:01] <hsoj> well have fun having that attitude and getting people to help you
[17:01:53] <RSchulzB> I see you as the one with the attitude.
[17:02:03] <RSchulzB> And you're not a principal, so I don't see the importance of it.
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[17:02:11] <dannyD_> hey guys ..calm down..
[17:02:28] <richvdh> quite.
[17:02:30] <dannyD_> your just missunderstanding each other
[17:02:38] <dannyD_> its normal :D
[17:02:49] * rtyler picks up his ops sword
[17:02:55] <rtyler> what's goin' on?
[17:02:57] <troels> Hey. I realize that you are busy, but I'll repeat my question. I'm having trouble releasing my plugin to jenkins. Error: Failed to transfer file: http://maven.jenkins-ci.org:8081/content/repositories/releases/org/jvnet/hudson/plugins/PUCM/0.3.0/PUCM-0.3.0.hpi. Return code is: 401. I have tried with user+pass in commandline and in settings.xml. Same error. Does my jekins-account have to be connected to the repository somehow? Thank you
[17:03:19] <rtyler> troels: yes, you need your jenkins account set up properly
[17:03:22] <schwullo> derka derk.
[17:03:40] <rtyler> maven.jenkins-ci.org uses our LDAP infrastructure to authenticate folks pushing artifacts
[17:04:18] <mwalling_> heh, m.j-ci.o uses nexus
[17:04:34] <troels> I have created the account and the wiki... do I need to do something else?
[17:04:51] <rtyler> troels: there should be a document on the wiki about releasing
[17:04:55] <rtyler> let me see what I can dig up
[17:04:59] <rtyler> mwalling_: so? :)
[17:05:13] <mwalling_> rtyler: :)
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[17:06:20] <rtyler> GARGH, every time I use JIRA, those farking keybindings ruin it for me
[17:06:30] <troels> Yes, this: http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Hosting+Plugins. Mmmm, do I need to authenticate the user (as in with a key like I use on github)?
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[17:07:19] <rtyler> troels: http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Hosting+Plugins#HostingPlugins-Releasingtojenkinsci.org
[17:07:56] <rtyler> where the plugin source code actually *lives* is completely orthogonal to "releasing" the plugin to the primary jenkins update center
[17:10:23] <troels> rtyler: ok. I have followed the guide, but it seems as though I don't have write access...
[17:11:06] <rtyler> troels: I believe you should email the dev list with your username, plugin and request access to release if you have not done so already
[17:11:58] <troels> ok. I will do thank. Thank you. :)
[17:12:13] <rtyler> I might be able to do it here in IRC, I try not to be the gatekeeper on those things though
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[17:12:43] <dannyD_> richvdh: mm if i start svn with a specific port and ip adress.. then my start-svn.bat wont work
[17:12:54] <dannyD_> richvdh: must i add something to that??
[17:13:50] <richvdh> i have no idea what start-svn.bat is
[17:14:18] <hsoj> heh, coming back and seeing what was said.  *facepalm*
[17:16:14] <hsoj> anyways.  in the call "ParametersDefinitionProperty pp = getProperty(ParametersDefinitionProperty.class);" is getProperty() something defined by a parent class of the object that's called in?
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[17:30:49] <troels> rtyler: I will ask the dev list. Thank you for your help
[17:31:00] <rtyler> cheers
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[18:13:55] <banoss> anyone around? Trying to use curl to trigger a full build for an incremental job, is this possible?
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[18:17:18] <prusswan> anything is possible, if you try hard enough
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[18:22:38] <banoss> :-/
[18:23:01] <rtyler> banoss: http://jenkins/job/Foo/build
[18:23:06] <rtyler> that not what you need?
[18:23:56] <banoss> im just looking through the api, I'm pre-empting that will kick off the build as if I clicked the build now button - which will still be an incremental build if there are changes
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[18:24:18] <rtyler> that seems like /build is what you want
[18:24:19] <rtyler> try it out
[18:24:29] <banoss> cheers
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[18:25:06] <hsoj> wait, it doesn't appear that params are being passed into the environment when executing shell scripts
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[18:40:57] <myusuf3_> upgrading is slow
[18:41:05] <myusuf3_> what are you guys doing about that? :)
[18:41:41] <prusswan> you referring to the download speed? it's pretty fast for me
[18:41:57] <myusuf3_> yes; I was doing it on multiple machine
[18:42:06] <myusuf3_> slow for me
[18:42:11] <myusuf3_> it might be just from my end though
[18:42:13] <myusuf3_> thanks!
[18:43:02] <prusswan> if they are using the same connection, maybe you should download one copy, then upgrade other machines using the local copy
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[18:43:30] <myusuf3_> no they aren't using the same connection
[18:43:34] <myusuf3_> thats why i said something :)
[18:44:55] <prusswan> also, speed is relative...when I upgraded like 10 hours ago it was 50K? good enough for me
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[18:45:21] <myusuf3_> prusswan, are you a troll?
[18:45:28] <myusuf3_> I said I would look into it
[18:45:36] <myusuf3_> no need to over engineer a non issue
[18:46:00] <myusuf3_> I was just asking if the speed was slow for anyone else
[18:46:15] <myusuf3_> and if so, are there plan to correct it
[18:46:25] <prusswan> oh, I was thinking if you might be
[18:46:49] <prusswan> I can consider 50K as slow on a 8M line
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[18:58:37] <fmntf> hi, after I upgraded jenikns to 1.403, it refuses to start with this: http://pastebin.com/g2LSwkpC
[18:58:55] <fmntf> how can i disable/upgrade xunit (if it helps?)
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[19:02:47] <fmntf> any way to start jenkins in "safe mode" ?
[19:06:24] <jieryn-w> what does that mean?
[19:07:56] <fmntf> without plugins
[19:08:06] <fmntf> xunit is preventing jenkins to start
[19:08:37] <prusswan> without plugins? you can delete the plugins folder and see what happens
[19:09:18] <fmntf> see what happens?
[19:09:52] <prusswan> it's a suggestion that has yet to be verified :p
[19:10:18] <jieryn-w> for p in plugins/*.hpi ; do touch $p.disabled ; done
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[19:12:55] <fmntf> thank you jieryn-w
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[19:15:23] <fmntf> ok, resurrected, many thanks!
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[19:52:20] <jieryn-w> ok np! :)
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[20:05:42] <banoss> so http://jenkins/job/build does a full build even if the build is configured as incremental. That's actually pretty cool because incremental builds are a bit broke :-) And devs are asking "How do I kick off a full build?"
[20:05:57] <banoss> thanks @rtyler
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[20:41:44] <Creeture> Where did all of my "Last Duration" fields go?
[20:43:36] <kohsuke> Is that gone? screenshot?
[20:45:07] <Creeture> screenshot forthcoming...
[20:47:25] <Creeture> http://www.microcozm.net/~ccosby/noduration.png
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[20:49:51] <Creeture> However, build.duration is there and correct using groovy
[20:50:53] <kohsuke> Thanks. These are FreeStyle jobs?
[20:50:57] <kohsuke> Just so I know
[20:51:06] <Creeture> Yep.
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[20:51:25] <lord1234> what user does jenkins use to run?
[20:51:28] <lord1234> does it create a jenkins user?
[20:51:38] <Creeture> lord1234: Depends on how you install it.
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[20:52:05] <lord1234> http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Installing+Jenkins+on+Ubuntu  i followed these
[20:52:25] <Creeture> runs as jenkins:nogroup
[20:52:41] <lord1234> so it won't have access to /home/ubuntu then?
[20:53:05] <Creeture> It will if you set perms on that directory properly.
[20:53:27] <lord1234> i set em to 777
[20:53:33] <lord1234> i mean...whats more open then that?
[20:53:34] <kohsuke> Creeture: confirmed that the fix is scheduled for 1.404
[20:53:40] <kohsuke> I'll add it to the changelog
[20:53:43] <Creeture> Thanks kohsuke.
[20:53:45] <kohsuke> I wonder if the bug is already reported
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[20:54:07] <lord1234> i don't have to set the entire tree leading to the dir its actually /home/ubuntu/1/2/3/file.rb
[20:54:11] <Creeture> Don't know why i didn't notice it until now. Been heads down in groovy fun so I haven't looked at the interface.
[20:54:13] <lord1234> so I set 3 to 777
[20:54:16] <lord1234> and figured that would do it...
[20:54:51] <Creeture> lord1234: You have a thing or two to learn about UNIX permissions. :) When you say "access to", what do you really want to do?
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[20:55:13] <lord1234> Creeture: personally if i didn't need to use linux in this case I woudln't since I don't know linux that well
[20:55:14] <lord1234> BUT
[20:55:28] <lord1234> I am trying to run a ruby script using jenkins
[20:55:53] <Creeture> Just run it as a script as a build step?
[20:56:01] <lord1234> yes...thats what i am trying to do
[20:58:37] <Creeture> k. then you need to make sure that every directory in that path is *at least* executable by "other". So,  chmod o+x /home /home/ubuntu /home/ubuntu/1
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[21:02:42] <Creeture> And make sure that file.rb is readable and executable, so chmod o+rx /home/ubuntu/1/2/3/file.rb
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[22:30:02] <MyTallest> Just got jenkins up and running. I'm using Git as my repo and my workflow is to work on a branch that is named for the milestone it represents. My question is how do I get jenkins to build from whatever branch was just pushed?
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[22:51:03] <stain> MyTallest: I believe it will build all branches by default?
[22:51:15] <stain> oh, you mean *only* build the last-pushed branch?
[22:51:22] <MyTallest> Right
[22:52:18] <MyTallest> The thing is the branchs are going to change over time. So right now it's M2 then it will be M3, etc.
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[22:52:50] <MyTallest> I was hoping there was a way to pass the branch in from the git hook post-receive.
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[22:59:28] <stain> why not build all branches?
[23:01:09] <stain> >
[23:01:10] <stain> Set up your hudson project, and leave the 'branch' field in the Git SCM blank. This will cause Hudson to consider any change on any branch for building.
[23:01:32] <MyTallest> OK I'll try that. Thanks.
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[23:02:13] <stain> s/Hudson/Jenkins/g of course :)
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[23:02:24] <MyTallest> Of course. :)
[23:05:09] <MyTallest> Is there an issue with the "loading" not going away on the configure page?
[23:05:51] <MyTallest> It's staying dimmed and not letting me access the fields.
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