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[00:23:24] <smandy`> olamy: sorry got distracted :-)
[00:23:37] <olamy> hehe it can happened
[00:23:46] <smandy`> will try a manual release now....
[00:24:46] <smandy`> plugin version is 0.7.1
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[00:26:21] <olamy> no I mean maven-release-plugin not the jenkins one :-)
[00:26:31] <smandy`> ah sorry.
[00:26:37] <olamy> and pls try a release outside jenkins
[00:26:41] <smandy`> WOW - release failed manually!
[00:26:53] <olamy> interesting :-)
[00:27:07] <olamy> so you found a maven issue :-)
[00:27:16] <smandy`> ug - could have been.
[00:27:18] <smandy`> :-)
[00:27:45] <smandy`> Feel like a bit of an idiot. Reason i wanted to use the jenkins one was that I can't be bothered doing it 'manually' in maven :-)
[00:28:00] <olamy> release plugin version ?
[00:28:16] <smandy`> olamy: do you know easy way to tell?
[00:28:25] <olamy> could try the release (after a clean) with -X and paste this in an email
[00:28:32] <olamy> with the -X ;-)
[00:28:38] <olamy> or use maven3
[00:28:45] <olamy> the console display it
[00:30:13] <smandy`> org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-release-plugin:2.0-beta-8
[00:32:03] <olamy> oh
[00:32:12] <olamy> can you test this with 2.1
[00:32:32] * olamy maven debugging in jenkins channel :-)
[00:32:48] <smandy`> heh! sorry about that :-(
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[00:36:57] <smandy`> olamy: http://pastebin.com/6LXByEc6
[00:37:38] <smandy`> I released with -up to update plugins but it's still running with 2.0-beta-8 for some reason :-(
[00:37:52] <olamy> you have to do that in your pom
[00:38:08] <smandy`> olamy: ah okay will fix..
[00:38:27] <olamy> always declare plugins version in your pom !! (taking here my maven committer hat :-) )
[00:39:20] <smandy`> olamy: I think your last line might end up being the one real nugget of wisdom from our conversation :-)
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[00:40:09] <olamy> :-)
[00:40:44] <smandy`> olamy: just a second - it's downloading the internet ( again!)
[00:40:57] <olamy> pfff
[00:42:35] <sietse> I am using the M2Release plugin but also a post-build action to deploy the artifacts to a maven repository
[00:42:46] <smandy`> olamy: it still fails with 2.1 :-/
[00:42:54] <sietse> these collide with snapshot versions and release versions
[00:43:09] <sietse> anyone knows a good solution for this?
[00:43:12] <olamy> smandy same message  ?
[00:43:30] <smandy`> olamu: yead, sorry http://pastebin.com/xCRWHCzd
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[00:44:31] <smandy`> let me try a full release cycle. Thinking about it I've just been retrying the 'perform'
[00:44:53] <olamy> smandy line 291
[00:45:06] <olamy> it should use -f ultra/pom.xml
[00:45:12] <olamy> or I missed something
[00:45:50] <olamy> the issue is here
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[00:45:57] <smandy`> olamy: looks like it.
[00:46:09] <olamy> ok I have to check with the current trunk
[00:46:48] <olamy> maybe could work with -DpomFileName=ultra/pom.xml
[00:48:10] <smandy`> olamy: still haven't done complete 're-release' yet...
[00:49:42] <smandy`> olamy: nah - still broken.
[00:49:49] <olamy> doh
[00:49:53] <olamy> same message ?
[00:50:01] <smandy`> yes :-(
[00:50:14] <olamy> arghhhh
[00:50:22] <smandy`> shall I try re-doing the release with the -DpomFileName=ultra/pom.xml ?
[00:50:29] <olamy> ah yes please
[00:50:43] <olamy> before mvn clean release:clean
[00:51:49] <olamy> after this last test . I will have to leave (time to sleep here :-) )
[00:52:16] <smandy`> olamy: should be time to sleep in london but want to get it solved :-)
[00:52:32] <olamy> you in London ?
[00:52:44] <smandy`> aye!
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[00:53:48] <olamy> just to be sure you do : mvn release:prepare release:perform -f ultra/pom.xml -DpomFileName=ultra/pom.xml ?
[00:54:16] <smandy`> ah missed the -f ultra/pom.xml
[00:54:25] <smandy`> here we go again...
[00:56:17] <smandy`> olamy: just to confirm, i need to go up to the repo root to run the command you suggest right. (I've been doing everything *inside* the subdir up till now, the -f doesn't work in the subdir...)
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[00:58:35] <olamy> is the root dir
[00:58:42] <olamy> %s/is/in
[00:58:54] <smandy`> okay
[00:59:13] <sairazard> anyone know how i can check the status of a job, i got up to here.. http://pastebin.com/uRmmUwj5 just need to know if this job was succesfull or not using groovy
[01:01:49] <smandy`> olamy: still fails :-( http://pastebin.com/fGpL4yRT
[01:02:04] <smandy`> anything else you want me to try. I need to get going as well :-(
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[01:03:33] <olamy> arghh
[01:03:46] <olamy> so I see it's an issue we have fixed recently
[01:03:54] <olamy> in the trunk
[01:04:01] <smandy`> ah okay.
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[01:04:31] <smandy`> is it fixed in mvn 3.0?
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[01:05:04] <olamy> no in release plugin 2.2-SNAPSHOT (not yet released)
[01:07:01] <smandy`> is the snapshot in a repo somewhere.
[01:07:04] <olamy> I think it's related to http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MRELEASE-457
[01:07:36] <smandy`> Ah right. I was going to ask if you think it might be mercurial specific, but that makes sense.
[01:08:03] <smandy`> in svn you would have just done a checkout of ultra/ultra but with hg et-al you don't have that luxury ( hence the problem I guess).
[01:08:16] <olamy> snapshots are here https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots-group/
[01:08:18] <smandy`> Is the snapshot in a repo anywhere?
[01:08:37] <smandy`> heh. I love it when people answer my questions when I'm in the middle of typing them :-)
[01:09:23] <olamy> :-)
[01:09:30] <olamy> so I have to sleep now
[01:09:50] <olamy> let me know tru email if it works better with the 2.2-SNAPSHOT
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[01:10:40] <smandy`> willdo, thx for your help. I'm going to give it a try just now, will email to let you know ;-)
[01:10:59] <olamy> nn (and good luck :P )
[01:11:11] <smandy`> olamy: thanks again!
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[03:02:20] <mwhudson> hm
[03:02:38] <mwhudson> i wonder if anyone has some nice scripts for making changes to all the jobs in a jenkins install...
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[03:10:12] <mwhudson> i guess there's always sed -i jobs/*/config.xml
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[04:10:46] <lifeless> kohsuke: hi
[04:11:24] <lifeless> kohsuke: just had this mentioned to me - http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/committer/ - thats mozillas 'cla' - note that they only ask for an agreement for *committers*
[04:13:17] <jieryn-w> why would we get a cla for non-committers?
[04:13:33] <jieryn-w> cla means commiter license agreement, no?
[04:14:18] <jieryn-w> or, contributor .. whichever
[04:16:16] <prusswan-work> there's a difference between contributor and committer right?
[04:16:53] <jieryn-w> sure
[04:17:33] <jieryn-w> i think even typo patches/pull requests should come from someone that signed a cla, tho
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[04:19:26] <prusswan-work> wouldn't that be quite troublesome? I was thinking along the lines of having somebody that will consolidate such changes in bulk and be responsible for committing them
[04:20:26] <jieryn-w> i dunno, it takes about 10 minutes to download, print, sign, fax a CLA
[04:20:33] <jieryn-w> and then it's done
[04:21:43] <jieryn-w> i don't think that it is troublesome or burdensome is a valid objection :)
[04:24:12] <lifeless> jieryn-w: there is confusion in this discussion
[04:24:29] <prusswan-work> yes, I'm referring to whichever entity that will manage/oversee the CLAs... so there will be a CLA for every person/entity that made a recognizable contribution aka contributor?
[04:24:40] <lifeless> jieryn-w: some folk have been arguing that with a cla we couldn't include changes made by anyone that hadn't signed it
[04:24:47] <jieryn-w> if someone other than a cla-signing dev codes even a typo fix, it should not be "covered" just because a cla-signing dev commits it to the scm
[04:25:00] <jieryn-w> ok, well there's no perfect solution
[04:25:10] <jieryn-w> i'm willing to forgo changes made by hudson
[04:25:28] <jieryn-w> most of what i've seen from them has been buggy or of questionable value
[04:25:35] <lifeless> jieryn-w: I'm not arguing a particular position right-now, just noting that the discussion has gotten confused
[04:26:21] <prusswan-work> lifeless: that's why I was thinking consolidation small changes and attribute them to a single person might be more manageable, although I'm not sure how a contributor is defined here
[04:26:27] <jieryn-w> i think the users of jenkins deserve to have some peace of mind as to the legality of the code which they are investing time and infrastructure to
[04:27:20] <lifeless> for instance, canonicals cla is required for *every source of code* and *includes copyright assignment*
[04:27:32] <jieryn-w> i don't have a problem with that
[04:27:41] <lifeless> the mozilla one I linked and mailed is for VCS access only and doesn't require copyright assignment
[04:27:57] <lifeless> jieryn-w: I'm just illustrating the breadth of things covered by the 'cla' label
[04:28:07] <jieryn-w> i think copyright assignment is a good thing
[04:28:11] <lifeless> I think reframing the discussion to avoid that ambiguity might be useful
[04:28:21] <jieryn-w> ok, i don't disagree
[04:29:13] <jieryn-w> i mean, i guess i don't see the perspective of a developer who thinks that MIT is ok, but copyright assignment is not ok
[04:29:59] <jieryn-w> and that is what we have with the majority of people who are commenting on the mailing list; i see them committing code with MIT license, and then arguing against cla
[04:31:00] <prusswan-work> it really depends on the terms of the cla right?
[04:32:26] <jieryn-w> they've already given away the farm, and now are haggling about the price of a goat
[04:33:33] <jieryn-w> i generally find this kind of personal internal struggle with people that don't really understand, or like, what free and open source software is about
[04:33:45] <jieryn-w> it means having your worst enemy use your code and compete against you
[04:34:00] <jieryn-w> (theoretically)
[04:35:00] <prusswan-work> maybe they are just not willing to commit to the terms of the cla
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[04:35:22] <jieryn-w> i think that's fine, and i'll miss them, but they should look for another project perhaps
[04:35:38] <jieryn-w> i am not speaking for Jenkins :) just personal opinion
[04:37:10] <prusswan-work> yes, they can either try to mediate to reach a mutually acceptable solution, or the central authority(?) will have to identify which changes need to be prune, either way it will take time
[04:37:49] <jieryn-w> and that is the way it's historically been run for hudson/jenkins
[04:38:22] <jieryn-w> core committers required cla on file, but patches were accepted from non-cla'd people
[04:38:33] <jieryn-w> and plugins were free of any restrictions
[04:49:37] <prusswan-work> "and my lawyer always recommended that the default position is to not sign anything unless you really, really, really have to"
[04:49:57] <prusswan-work> it's quite hard to combat this position tbh
[04:50:35] <jieryn-w> that's fine and good advice, and no one has a gun to your head to make you commit code to a f/oss project :)
[04:51:09] <prusswan-work> but they already did when it was under MIT (and still is?)
[04:51:17] <jieryn-w> i don't follow
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[04:55:11] <prusswan-work> I think a professional legal opinion needs to be sought to get a firm grip on the legal consequences of the choices, and made known to those who will be impacted
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[04:57:43] <jieryn-w> i think the users are more important than the developers
[04:58:11] <jieryn-w> and the users deserve some peace of mind w/r/t code safety
[04:58:40] <jieryn-w> if that means a couple of devs who refuse to sign clas do not contribute, so be it
[04:59:04] <prusswan-work> also, I don't recall the LibreOffice project having such problems, I wonder how they resolved it?
[04:59:14] <jieryn-w> i don't use that piece of shit
[04:59:15] <jieryn-w> sorry :)
[05:00:03] <prusswan-work> why? because it was derived from OpenOffice?
[05:01:19] <jieryn-w> because it sucks
[05:01:23] <jieryn-w> they both suck
[05:01:34] <jieryn-w> anyhow.
[05:01:59] <rpetti_> Better than shelling out hundreds for MS office, imo.
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[05:02:28] <prusswan-work> but they are in a simliar situation..having to fork away from the tentacles of oracle
[05:03:08] <jieryn-w> emerge emacs vim ; echo "ahh..better"
[05:05:18] <jieryn-w> anyway, jenkins renamed itself to protect users .. not because of CLA issues
[05:05:40] <jieryn-w> i don't recall any objections to the CLA pre-rename/fork
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[05:06:22] <prusswan-work> I thought it was motivated mainly by the disaffection towards Oracle's stand and attitude
[05:06:37] <jieryn-w> because they wanted to be able to veto any changes to the source code
[05:06:49] <jieryn-w> that hudson wouldn't be able to be released unless they stamped it
[05:07:06] <jieryn-w> and no one could build and distribute hudson themselves, had to always be DL'd from oracle
[05:07:18] <jieryn-w> it had nothing to do with CLA
[05:07:22] <prusswan-work> yeah, they came with a rather hard-line stance
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[05:08:17] <jieryn-w> i think people have taken the rename to be a chance to induce dramatic change, one of those being the CLA, and now it's coupled with rename
[05:08:56] <jieryn-w> i would be happy to be corrected, but i'm pretty sure most people were fine with cla before the rename :)
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[05:15:55] <jieryn-w> sleep comes
[05:15:57] <jieryn-w> g'nite folks :)
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[09:17:43] <olamy> morning
[09:18:16] <prusswan-work> hi
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[14:56:35] <schwullo> anyone using jenkins with clearcase plugin?
[14:56:40] <schwullo> comparison from the previous successfull build and the one which things
[14:56:42] <schwullo> wops
[14:56:49] <schwullo> I was wondering if there any way to get latest commit if a build breaks.
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[15:06:20] <jieryn-w> schwullo: any reason why you can't use  $JENKINS_URL/job/$JOBNAME/changes  ?
[15:06:38] <jieryn-w> there may be an   /api  exposed there
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[15:38:51] <schwullo> jieryn-w: didn't know of it, but it doesn't seem that it sees any change in the clearcase view..
[15:39:19] <schwullo> jieryn-w: I checked out a file, changed it, checked it in and ran a build, still posted "no changes in any of the builds"
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[15:40:34] <jieryn-w> i'm not familiar with cq
[15:40:39] <jieryn-w> err, clearcase
[15:40:42] <schwullo> alright :)
[15:40:51] <schwullo> thanks for hinting n /changes though :-)
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[15:47:09] <bnovc> I would like to have a job that starts two other jobs and waits for them (or invokes a fourth job when the other two are done). Is that possible?
[15:47:19] <bnovc> (the middle two jobs should run in parallel)
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[15:50:10] <elpargo_> bnovc: yes and no.
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[15:51:36] <elpargo> There is a plugin called "parametrized builds" however there is a bug in it which won't let you start the last fourth job under certain conditions.
[15:51:39] <elpargo> bnovc: ^
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[16:32:53] <bnovc> elpargo: ok, thanks
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[16:49:24] <abayer> magnayn: =)
[16:49:35] <magnayn> I couldn't resist
[16:49:39] <abayer> Me neither.
[16:49:49] <abayer> I almost suspected I was being deliberately trolled.
[16:50:52] <magnayn> I just like how it so obviously pushes their buttons to refer to it as "oracle hudson"
[16:51:03] <magnayn> perhaps they're ashamed...
[16:51:08] <abayer> =)
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[17:27:46] <yshavit> Hi all. Is there a way to define a var in a shell-script build step, and then use it in the post-build step? I tried just exporting it, didn't seem to work
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[17:29:19] <Creeture> There's a global configuration option "Environment Variables" - but I'm not sure if you can set them in pre and read in post. I think they're static once set.
[17:29:40] <Creeture> You could always write out a file to your workspace in pre and read it back in post
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[17:30:45] <yshavit> Creeture: hm, what I'm trying to do is have a configuration matrix, with a post-step of an scp publish, the destination of which depends on a var which itself depends on the configuration
[17:30:48] <Creeture> I'm writing a new "system Groovy script" that I want to test in the context of my running instance without starting a new job for it every time. What's the easiest way to go about that?
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[17:31:34] <Creeture> yshavit: I'd have to dork around with that one for a while. Not sure that it's easy.
[17:31:41] <yshavit> Creeture: alright, thanks anyway!
[17:32:19] <Creeture> yshavit: Try the Setenv Plugin maybe?
[17:32:35] <Creeture> or the "Tool Environment Plugin"
[17:32:40] <yshavit> Creeture: oh, didn't know about that! Great idea, thanks
[17:32:53] <Creeture> http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Setenv+Plugin
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[18:04:20] <yshavit> Creeture: I figured out a workaround. Step 1 should have been to verify that we actually need that post-step. ;-)
[18:04:26] <yshavit> s/we/I
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[18:11:24] <Creeture> yshavit: That certainly does make it easier.
[18:11:50] <Creeture> And the answer to my question is java -jar jenkins-cli.jar -s url groovy /path/to/groovy script
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[19:16:15] <rpetti> is there a plugin that logs the IP of anonymous users who start builds?
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[19:20:24] <lyric_> Is it useful to use Jenkins to deploy a software on a local computer for development?
[19:20:30] <herque> where do I go to change my password for the wiki and jira?
[19:21:22] <rpetti> herque: http://jenkins-ci.org/account
[19:22:10] <herque> rpetti: thx a bunch
[19:22:21] <rpetti> herque: np
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[19:37:04] <rtyler> YAY! Jenkins stickers http://twitpic.com/4a9ouo
[19:37:05] * rtyler chuckles
[19:39:20] <rtyler> kohsuke: you should post something about that SV event on the blog
[19:39:30] <kohsuke> Will do
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[19:41:03] * rtyler is catching up on the lists
[19:41:28] <rtyler> it'd be convenient if everybody else took a sick day when I did
[19:41:32] <rtyler> then I wouldn't have to catch up
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[19:53:05] <lyric_> I'd like to add a parameter to the Repository Url. How doing that?
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[20:02:57] <lyric_> Jenkins complains if I try to add ${parameter} to the url.
[20:03:36] <kohsuke> lyric_: I think we don't know what you mean by the "repository URL"
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[20:04:03] <lyric_> I have a subversion repository. I mean it's url
[20:04:24] <kohsuke> I thought parameter expansion works there
[20:04:30] <kohsuke> People use it to specify revisions, tags, etc
[20:04:41] <kohsuke> Are you positive that it doesn't work?
[20:04:54] <lyric_> can you tell me where I can read about that?
[20:04:59] <lyric_> Yes
[20:05:14] <kohsuke> OK, I think in that case would you please file a ticket?
[20:05:28] <kohsuke> Ideally with your configuration, error messages, and so on
[20:05:39] <kohsuke> This kind of problem is easy to fix if it can be reproduced
[20:06:15] <lyric_> okay, but can maybe can you give me a link to the manual first.
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[20:06:29] <lyric_> To be sure I did no mistake.
[20:06:49] <kohsuke> I don't know if we have so much as a manual, but I guess http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Subversion+Plugin
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[20:10:49] <Creeture> If I have the string "hudson.scm.SubversionChangeLogSet$LogEntry" and want to get a javadoc reference out of that (from the web), is there a stupid easy way to do it?
[20:11:37] <kohsuke> The easiest right now is to start from http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Subversion+Plugin and then follow the "source code" link
[20:11:39] <Creeture> Yep. Dots to / and $ to .
[20:12:00] <kohsuke> There's up-to-date javadoc for core, but not for plugins
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[20:12:47] <Creeture> Probably get me close enough though and I can deal with any pains in the butt along the way if changes are too significant.
[20:14:15] <Creeture> I wish I could find an IDE that I liked and would make this stuff transparent, but I can't.
[20:16:33] <lyric_> kohsuke: If I use file:///var/local/svn/myrepository/mypath/${my_parameter_name} Jenkins complains that the path does not exist.
[20:16:58] <lyric_> kohsuke: He does not complain for  file:///var/local/svn/myrepository/mypath/
[20:18:56] <lyric_> So is it my fault or should I post  a ticket?
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[21:16:43] <rtyler> kohsuke: in contact with Contegix, I'm seeing if i can get them to cover the costs of cucumber's rent in St. Louis :)
[21:17:01] <kohsuke> St.Louis?
[21:17:08] <rtyler> that's where Contegix is located
[21:17:28] <kohsuke> oh, I see. That is, to see if Contegix is willing to support the project in that way
[21:18:24] <rtyler> yes, the CEO pinged me after I did some solid complaining on Twitter :)
[21:19:08] <kohsuke> I've always been very impressed with your ability to find the right people and achieve things
[21:19:51] <rtyler> it helps knowing when to speak up ;)
[21:20:21] <kohsuke> But that's not just it, right? Like I just complained about Java Crypto API but no help showed up from anywhere
[21:21:05] <kohsuke> I wish you teach me some of your tricks
[21:21:22] <rtyler> I'll have to really give it some thought then, I didn't think I had any tricks
[21:21:28] <rtyler> this is just how I roll :P
[21:22:03] <rtyler> one of the benefits of having some guy like me closely knit with the project is that because I /don't/ code, that gives me a lot of bandwidth to chat with people and things like that
[21:22:10] <rtyler> earn my keep :)
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[21:22:31] <kohsuke> Yes, invaluable
[21:22:47] <kohsuke> Mastercard would say, priceless
[21:24:32] <rtyler> http://bit.ly/i3wFhq
[21:24:35] * rtyler facepalms
[21:24:50] <rtyler> I wonder how much longer it is before the plugin ecosystems look entirely different
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[21:25:52] <kohsuke> I'm just going to pay attention to what we do
[21:26:08] <rtyler> sounds good to me
[21:26:17] <kohsuke> I never really cared how Bamboo or TeamCity are doing, and I'm trying to do similar with Oracle Hudson
[21:26:19] <rtyler> it bugs me that they're asking plugin maintains to double their work-load
[21:27:15] * rtyler nods
[21:27:15] <rpetti> oracle's doing what now?
[21:27:32] <rtyler> rpetti: the usual :)
[21:27:48] <rpetti> rtyler: did they break plugin compatibility already?
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[21:27:56] <rtyler> they did or we did
[21:27:58] <rtyler>  I'm not sure
[21:28:06] <rtyler> not that it matters, it was an inevitability
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[21:28:28] <rtyler> kohsuke: is this week the 402 release?
[21:28:32] <kohsuke> Yes
[21:28:37] <rpetti> hmm
[21:28:44] <rtyler> woohoo!
[21:28:48] <rpetti> I guess I should check if my plugin still works with that
[21:28:53] <rtyler> it looks like the latest/ symlink thing is fixed?
[21:29:03] <kohsuke> I think I did, yes.
[21:29:10] <rpetti> I'm still compiling against an old version of hudson.
[21:29:46] <rtyler> kohsuke: can you add the md5sum generation to the release script as well?
[21:30:07] <kohsuke> Yeah, or PGP signatures, I guess
[21:30:39] <rtyler> md5sums would be preferable for now, if we're going to add PGP signatures, I think we'd have to decide on a group of keymasters or something :P
[21:30:42] <rpetti> kohsuke: both, imo :)
[21:31:09] <kohsuke> OK
[21:31:44] <rtyler> I don't know how you do PGP signing properly when N number of people can create the release wars
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[21:32:48] <kohsuke> Those N number of people share the secret key
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[21:34:01] <rpetti> can't you just sign those people's keys with the main one?
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[21:36:40] <rtyler> perhaps
[21:36:48] <rtyler> I'm not too PGP-sophisticated unfortunately
[21:36:51] <stain> well..
[21:36:52] <rtyler> nobody I know uses it but me :(
[21:37:03] <stain> wouldn't reality be that just one or two guys would normally do the signing
[21:37:27] <stain> so if a third person did it one wouldn't be used to checking that two-level-system
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[21:38:55] <rtyler> "
[21:38:56] <rtyler> Expect a change order your way. We are going to remove the charges for the jenkins machine."
[21:38:59] <rtyler> WOOHOOO!
[21:39:18] <kohsuke> We need a lot of "we love you" posts
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[21:40:39] <rtyler> yesh
[21:42:35] <rtyler> it's too bad none of this help will stifle that bullshit Cloudbees FUD from Oracle about Jenkins
[21:42:51] <abayer> Well, I'm going to keep responding to blatant FUD politely.
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[21:43:15] <rtyler> your moral highground is no fun
[21:43:21] <kohsuke> I think what we should do is to have a Wiki page showing why it's FUD
[21:43:32] <kohsuke> We can collect things that show otherwise
[21:43:50] <kohsuke> Just like http://jenkins-ci.org/why
[21:44:10] <kohsuke> People can then derive their own conclusions.
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[21:44:25] <rtyler> soudns like a job for somebody other than me, I'm too inflammatory :P
[21:44:44] <abayer> And I'm too lazy. =)
[21:44:48] <olamy> :-)
[21:44:51] <cdwillie76> Anyone know where I can look (or turn on more details) of why my ssh connection to a slave host is failing
[21:45:09] <rtyler> cdwillie76: is it failing outright, or after being connected for a period of time?
[21:45:22] <kohsuke> And that's how I end up doing all the grunt work...
[21:45:45] <rtyler> YUS
[21:45:50] <cdwillie76> Out right....something about a error and making sure my connection is "clean"  doing this from memory since it is my internal box at work (and can't access IRC from there)
[21:45:57] <cdwillie76> or login is clean
[21:46:11] <rtyler> kohsuke: btw, did you get the moar RAM for eggplant?
[21:46:18] <kohsuke> Yes I did
[21:46:29] <rtyler> cdwillie76: have you looked at the connection log?
[21:46:47] <kohsuke> But from later discoveries, it might not have been necessary
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[21:47:01] <rtyler> ah, so the Atlassian support was helpful?
[21:47:12] <cdwillie76> rtyler: IS that different that the details shown in the web page?
[21:47:28] <kohsuke> cdwillie76: I think we'd like to see the exact error message
[21:47:42] <rtyler> cdwillie76: http://jenkins/computer/<slavename>/log
[21:48:02] <cdwillie76> rtyler: Ok....I will check there Monday and report back then
[21:48:08] <rtyler> :(
[21:50:18] <cdwillie76> Thanks for help....I will poke around the log on Monday and if I am still stuck, I will report back Monday night
[21:50:38] <rtyler> sounds good, don't hesitate to drop in and ask for help whenever :)
[21:50:50] <rtyler> typically somebody's always awake around here
[21:52:32] <cdwillie76> Great....I did the upgrade today from hudson to jenkins and it was smooth as butter :)
[21:52:51] <kohsuke> cdwillie76: please blog or tweet and help us spread the word
[21:53:27] <cdwillie76> The tweet went out this morning
[21:53:35] <kohsuke> Thanks!
[21:54:14] <rtyler> I suppose we need to get the logo thing out on monday
[21:54:48] <rtyler> abayer: do you have a link to all the entries in drupal already?
[21:55:01] <abayer> They're there as an image gallery.
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[21:55:29] <rtyler> ah
[21:55:45] * rtyler logs in to see
[21:56:27] <rtyler> wowsa
[21:56:57] <rtyler> these are great!
[21:57:16] <rtyler> alright, I'll set aside some time to work out the google docs/forms thingie for Monday
[21:57:29] <abayer> kohsuke: so core/src/main/resource/lib/hudson/buildListTable.jelly has the time column labeled as "Date" - but in at least some cases, that doesn't make sense.
[21:57:43] <abayer> See http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/computer/remote-slave-6/builds, e.g.
[21:58:07] <kohsuke> This looks new
[21:58:10] <kohsuke> Did I add that?
[21:58:17] <abayer> Are we using buildListTable anywhere where it actually *does* have a date there, or is it always "time since build"?
[21:58:22] <abayer> Lemme see. A user mentioned this to me.
[21:58:26] <abayer> (here at Cloudera)
[21:59:09] <abayer> buildListTable.jelly hasn't changed since December.
[21:59:15] <kohsuke> OK
[21:59:31] <abayer> And the "Date" bit has been there since 2008. =)
[21:59:47] <abayer> Lemme try to find all the other places it's referenced and see what the content of that column looks like.
[21:59:59] <kohsuke> It's indeed only used in the "time since build" context
[22:00:26] <abayer> Ok, then I'll open a bug to change that and, well, change that. =)
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[22:18:43] <jenkinsci_builds> Starting build 606 for job jenkins_main_trunk (previous build: SUCCESS)
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[22:54:13] <jenkinsci_builds> Project jenkins_main_trunk build #606: UNSTABLE in 35 min: http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/job/jenkins_main_trunk/606/
[22:54:14] <jenkinsci_builds> Andrew Bayer: [FIXED JENKINS-9102] Changed buildListTable column name from Date to Time Since, to reflect actual content.
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[23:41:46] <notbrain> i'm not sure if this is more appropriate for play framework experts, but looking for help wrt execute shell execution and waiting for process to finish... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5358135/playframework-auto-test-jenkins-ci-wait-for-completion
[23:48:16] <mwalling_> add a shebang to line 1 of #!/bin/bash -x
[23:48:30] <mwalling_> puts bash in the "wtf am i doing mode", might help
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[23:54:24] <notbrain> thank you
[23:55:33] <notbrain> but doesn't jenkins run the script with bash -xe for me?
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