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[00:06:37] <mindless> jenkins-admin: make jackgene a committer
[00:06:46] <jenkins-admin> Added jackgene as a GitHub committer
[00:07:19] <mindless> kohsuke: ^ it adds ability to do releases too right? (deploy to maven)
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[00:53:14] <rjames> help Please wait while Jenkins is getting ready to work Page generated: Mar 3, 2011 6:50:47 PMJenkins ver. 1.397     :( never starts ubuntu 10.10
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[01:19:07] <Tartarus> woo!
[01:19:08] <Tartarus> Mar 3, 2011 5:17:49 PM hudson.plugins.labmanager.LabManagerVirtualMachineSlave$InternalComputerListener allowOnline
[01:19:09] <Tartarus> SEVERE: Value of maxOnlineSlaves is 1
[01:19:59] <Tartarus> (from trying to launch a slave so, yes, I can now find out if the Cloud would want this particular slave to come online)
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[01:31:40] <mwalling> \o/
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[01:38:30] <jieryn-w> w00t, maven 3.0.3 released
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[01:44:09] <_W_> I see another meeting was held where the copyright lunacy was further promoted
[01:44:31] <_W_> protip: apache foundation is not someone to emulate here
[01:44:47] <_W_> (almost as bad as emulating Sun/Oracle)
[01:46:07] <_W_> but I've realized that I have no wish to contribute to the core as it is now anyway - I'm more likely to just release my own /reusable/ libraries that duplicate work done in the core where I think it's too thightly coupled
[01:51:25] <jieryn-w> well, you're free to email the -dev list with your copyright suggestions
[01:52:07] <_W_> I've tried, and given up
[01:52:20] <_W_> wrote up a (too) long email, and was unable to get it posted to the list
[01:53:11] <_W_> given that you're still discussing cargo cult lawyering I don't see what my arguments would get through anyway
[01:54:40] <_W_> just someone /mentioning/ it should have you thinking rationally about the issues (realizing "we don't really know what we're doing here, we're just following the stream, perhaps we should think a bit about consequences?"), which I don't see happening
[01:55:05] <abayer> Um, I'm not sure why you weren't able to email the dev list, but that's the only right venue for this kind of discussion.
[01:55:20] <_W_> abayer, yeah about that: why?
[01:55:39] <abayer> That's what I was asking you. =)
[01:55:45] <_W_> I thought one of the professed goals here were to have as wide as possible community. Why should comments on IRC go ignored?
[01:55:55] <abayer> Because we're not all here?
[01:56:04] <_W_> why should the ones of you here ignore it?
[01:56:13] <abayer> Because I, for one, am a bit distracted doing work, etc, so I can't give my full attention to this right now.
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[01:57:35] <_W_> "someone doesn't like the way you're doing copyrights and thinks you should think a little about it" isn't something it takes any time ro realize
[01:57:44] <jieryn-w> _W_: i can understand frustration, but if you really have given up - why on earth are you chatting about it here?
[01:58:00] <_W_> jieryn-w, because I'm not the only one who might not commit to core?
[01:58:16] <jieryn-w> i'm saying, if you've given up on this issue then stop bringing it up
[01:58:22] <jieryn-w> you're being totally inconsistent
[01:58:23] <_W_> I'm not saying I've given up on Jenkins as a project: it's a great project and I still want it to be as good as possible
[01:58:34] <jieryn-w> 19:51:14         _W_ : I've tried, and given up
[01:58:38] <abayer> Then please email the list and explain your concerns and suggestions.
[01:58:40] <_W_> I've not given up on the issue
[01:58:49] <_W_> jieryn-w, I've given up trying to post to the dev list
[01:58:54] <_W_> context is everything
[01:59:24] <_W_> abayer, and if I have troubles posting to the dev list, should I perhaps take that up on the dev list as well?
[01:59:39] <mindless> _W_: seems to me you were pretty negative here in IRC even before anyone responded
[01:59:41] <abayer> What's so hard about posting to a Google Group? What's the problem you're having with posting there?
[01:59:46] <_W_> mindless, indeed!
[01:59:49] <_W_> I think I'm justified!
[01:59:55] <jieryn-w> i've seen 3-5 mb emails go through of nothing but stack traces, i can't believe yours wouldn't post
[02:00:18] <mindless> perhaps step back and introduce yourself again later with a more cooperative attitude
[02:00:21] <_W_> I /am/ negative, because I think a group of fairly intelligent people are just ignoring issues and going with what someone else have done (possibly with as little intelligent thought)
[02:00:39] <abayer> So email the list! Explain this!
[02:00:49] * _W_ smacks forehead
[02:00:54] <_W_> of course, why didn't I think about this!
[02:00:57] <abayer> What in god's name is the problem with emailing the list?
[02:01:01] * mindless is done
[02:01:07] <_W_> my email gets stuck "not approved for the list"
[02:01:20] <abayer> Are you on the list?
[02:01:21] <_W_> I get mailed once every day "mail still not approved for list"
[02:01:49] <abayer> I don't see any messages in the pending bucket.
[02:02:11] <_W_> abayer, presumably not, but I did follow the guide how to do this, and nabble seemeed to think I was
[02:02:25] <_W_> no, I deleted it by now, got tired of all the "still not approved" emails
[02:02:33] <abayer> Try Google Groups.
[02:03:12] <_W_> google groups is something other than nabble?
[02:03:13] <abayer> I don't think it's possible to send messages from Nabble directly.
[02:03:17] <abayer> Um...yes?
[02:03:33] <_W_> is there a page describing the subsciption mechanism?
[02:03:57] <abayer> groups.google.com
[02:04:09] <abayer> http://jenkins-ci.org/content/mailing-lists
[02:04:37] <_W_> oh hey, that one is new I think
[02:04:56] <_W_> I do believed I followed a link like that two+ weeks ago and got to nabble
[02:05:11] <abayer> The archive link goes to Nabble, the subscribe list goes to Google Groups.
[02:05:29] <abayer> And I'm about to change the archive links too.
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[02:08:25] <fcamblor> hey abayer I encountered some funny bug testing my scm-sync-configuration plugin over jenkins 1.398 :-)
[02:08:30] <atmos> is there an easy way to keep N builds around ?
[02:08:56] <fcamblor> looks like SaveableListener.onchange extension point is called more than once after job config update :P
[02:09:05] <abayer> atmos: not sure what you mean - there's the "keep X builds" stuff at the top of job configuration.
[02:09:14] <fcamblor> (in my case, it is called a dozen times :]
[02:09:14] <abayer> fcamblor: open a bug. =)
[02:09:18] <fcamblor> done ;)
[02:09:24] <abayer> =)
[02:09:31] <fcamblor> JENKINS-8953
[02:09:38] <atmos> abayer: nice, hadn't checked that yet
[02:09:43] <atmos> exactly what i wanted, figures
[02:09:44] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8953:SaveableListener.onchange() called multiple times after a job config save (Open) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8953
[02:09:51] <abayer> atmos: =)
[02:10:35] <fcamblor> in my case this is not important
[02:11:23] <fcamblor> but in the case of some plugins (like jobconfighistory plugin which archive the config.xml file each time the saveable is updated), it could be harsh :)
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[02:28:54] <Tartarus> Anyone around that can help me find the right extension points for what I need in Slaves or SlaveComputers?
[02:29:09] <Tartarus> I want to know when really the slave has come online successfully
[02:32:01] <Tartarus> or rather, i need the good online point
[02:32:05] <Tartarus> i've got the offline point
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[02:58:43] <Lewisham> kohsuke: does Jenkins hash the SMTP email password, or should I consider it as fairly easy to get hold of?
[02:59:42] <Lewisham> I don't want to set up an SMTP server, but I don't want my password accessible to other users either
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[03:08:13] <_W_> does SMTP even have an option to send the password hashed?
[03:08:21] <Lewisham> oh, hah, of course
[03:08:32] * Lewisham signs up for a fake GMail account instead
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[03:09:14] <_W_> yeah we've created lots of unprivileged accounts on systems that Jenkins have access to
[03:10:11] <Lewisham> yeah, if I was a sysadmin, I would do that too, but because I'm not, setting up an SMTP server that'll just get owned and used as a spam relay would just be a bad idea :)\
[03:11:45] <_W_> if I was a sysadmin I would set up an SMTP that only Jenkins had access to :)
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[03:13:02] <_W_> (most mta software come with good relay-proof default settings)
[03:13:17] <Lewisham> yeah, that would be a good idea
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[03:15:02] <_W_> oh and of course it doesn't matter if SMTP accepts hashed passwords or not - if it does, then reading *the hashed password* from the Jenkins host would be just as bad. It would have to be encrypted with a public key or something
[03:15:10] <Lewisham> yeah
[03:15:15] <Lewisham> I wasn't thinking
[03:15:22] * Lewisham is a dummy
[03:15:41] <_W_> hey, me neither, I actually went off to research what SMTP supported
[03:15:50] <_W_> before my brain caught up with me
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[03:50:02] <mwhudson> say
[03:50:24] <mwhudson> does anyone have some xpath to fish error messages out of the error pages you get when posting to jenkins' api?
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[04:09:17] <mwhudson> appears //p[../a[@name="skip2content"]] works
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[04:45:39] <jieryn-w> mwhudson: that's pretty snazzy, you should post it to jenkinsci-users
[04:48:04] <mwhudson> i guess better would be being able to say "Accept: text/plain" on the request
[04:48:11] <mwhudson> and getting plain text formatted errors back
[04:48:17] <mwhudson> for all i know this is already possible...
[04:49:35] <mwhudson> apparently not
[04:50:06] <mwhudson> i guess i should sign up to the mailing list :)
[04:50:11] <jieryn-w> i believe if your xpath= evals down to a single string, it will set content type text/plain
[04:50:18] <jieryn-w> but i don't think i ever saw it respect an accept: text/plain
[04:51:49] <mwhudson> i guess that would be a feature request then
[04:52:48] <mwhudson> .. if i could remember my ******* password
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[09:52:35] <olamy> morning !
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[10:04:20] <patabugen> Hey all, when I click on one of my builds to see the build summary, I have two places with a Checkstyle count - and they differ. The one nearer the top says 74 but the one lower by the graph says 176. Can anyone explain the difference? I'm using a jenkins-php.org setup.
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[10:38:23] <drulli> patabugen: can you provide a screenshot?
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[10:41:34] <patabugen> drulli: http://imagebin.org/141109
[10:41:39] <patabugen> An excellent idea
[10:46:16] <drulli> Ok, the numbers are from different plug-ins:-) Which one is correct? Do you have access to the parsed checkstyle files?
[10:52:04] <patabugen> Hm yes, I would reckon so, It wasn't me who set the server up
[10:52:24] <patabugen> How can I tell which two plugins?
[10:52:59] <drulli> The first one is my plugin (checkstyle), the second one (with graph) the violations.
[10:53:27] <drulli> Is the checkstyle result stored in one file?
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[10:54:59] <patabugen> I really don't know I'm afraid, I'll either need some spoon feeding from you through the config or I can pass it on to my boss (the fact that it's two different plugins) and see if he knows
[10:55:14] <patabugen> I can play with an access the config, but I don't yet know what most of it means
[10:57:29] <patabugen> I see "build/logs/checkstyle.xml" after "publish Checkstyle results" and lower on the page with the thresholds it has the same file name. But I can't see anywhere else to set a second file (implied by your question)
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[11:18:00] <damian> hello
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[11:18:16] <damian> everybody
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[11:18:53] <damian> can any one answer my questions concerning Jenkins plug-in development?
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[11:19:17] <stigkj> damian: just ask :-)
[11:19:20] <damian> ok
[11:19:45] <damian> so while running the project I created using Maven I get strange exceptions
[11:20:01] <damian> I am not sure if I can just paste the exceptions I get here
[11:20:59] <Haloperidol> you can use http://jenkins.pastebin.com/ to show exceptions
[11:21:08] <damian> ok
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[11:23:49] <damian> ok
[11:23:57] <damian> so exceptions I get are http://jenkins.pastebin.com/gQgLCFFG
[11:24:24] <damian> I would be great if somebody can look at it and help me how to proceed
[11:25:00] <damian> I created a Maven project from scratch and I was trying to implement the classes according to the plug-in tutorial
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[11:25:13] <olamy> damian which jenkins version are you using ?
[11:25:32] <damian> 1.324
[11:25:39] <olamy> and maven-plugin version ?
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[11:26:00] <olamy> have you update the maven-plugin version without updating the jenkins version ?
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[11:28:38] <damian> and how to check the version of the maven plug-in?
[11:29:51] <olamy> http://host/pluginManager/installed
[11:30:27] <olamy> btw you should definitely upgrade to a more recent version :-)
[11:30:34] <olamy> and move to jenkins :P
[11:31:32] <damian> ok
[11:31:37] <damian> so I will do this
[11:31:51] <damian> I suppose all the needed information is on the Jenkins pages
[11:32:00] <olamy> yup
[11:32:15] <damian> ok
[11:32:20] <damian> thank you
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[11:33:27] <olamy> damian : http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/x/-wAyAw
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[13:07:31] <mart> Hi, I'm having problems getting Jenkins to build the right git branch.  If I push a topic branch, it will often build that, but then the next push to master will trigger another build on a topic branch.
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[13:08:21] <mart> The "Branches to build" option is set to **
[13:09:15] <mart> which I was expecting to just build the most recently updated branch, but doesn't.  Are there any references for how to set up with git?
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[14:20:43] <sixstring> I'm confused. I thought Hudson and Jenkins are both still living projects. Can anyone explain the welcome message on #hudson?
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[14:26:16] <sixstring> Anyone interested in a discussion about why the ops haven't given back control of #hudson to others, please head over to #hudson.
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[14:28:14] <sixstring> rtyler: you might be interested in what's going on in #hudson.
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[15:51:40] <bnovc> Is there a way on a Windows slave to start one job from my current job since wget isn't available?
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[16:45:14] <Tartarus> I assume most of the deeply knowledgeable folks are still asleep, or at least not in yet
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[16:46:58] <stigkj> he, he?I guess you could say that. But you could also try us out with a question ;-)
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[17:21:10] <nano-> Is it possible to delete a job via the web api?
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[17:21:50] <nano-> I'm thinking about automatically create/delete jobs when pushing/deleting branches in my git repository.
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[17:24:09] <larrys> http://jenkins-url/job/jobName/doDelete
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[17:24:26] <larrys> or check out job/jobName/api page
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[17:47:48] <Paavo_> anyone use that?
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[20:17:00] <jenkinsci_builds> Starting build 555 for job jenkins_main_trunk (previous build: SUCCESS)
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[20:31:32] <dcorbin_wrk> Can jenkins tell give you statistics on how long jobs wait before execution? avg, max, etc?
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[20:47:22] <jenkinsci_builds> Project jenkins_main_trunk build #555: SUCCESS in 30 min: http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/job/jenkins_main_trunk/555/
[20:47:22] <jenkinsci_builds> Andrew Bayer: If you had two clouds and only the second one could provision a label, it'd never get that far - check to see if a cloud can provision a label before trying to do so.
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[20:50:53] <rtyler> everybody must be really busy working today ;)
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[20:52:42] <jieryn-w> on friday?
[20:52:49] <rtyler> YA RLY
[20:53:05] <evilchili> sssh!
[20:53:10] <evilchili> you'll wake the beer
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[20:56:42] <rtyler> beer?
[20:56:45] <rtyler> I want to wake it up
[20:57:35] <Tartarus> oh, yay, folks awake :)
[20:58:05] <Tartarus> rtyler, any chance you know the best places to hook into for "slave is really online now" or "slave failed to come online after beign asked, marking as offline" ?
[20:58:25] <rtyler> nope, I'm just a droid
[20:58:32] <Tartarus> Dang
[20:58:34] <Tartarus> How about this..
[20:58:55] <Tartarus> comments on https://github.com/trini/jenkins/commit/28a0a92be9c6f6a55c6cd22d1d19575d2f98bb39 before I ask for a pull, assuming it's everything my update needs?
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[21:06:08] <ojacobson> ~magnayn++
[21:06:08] <javabot> magnayn has a karma level of 1, ojacobson
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[22:56:49] <bnovc> I have a parameter to a job that I'd like to send with an email.... does anyone do this? I thought I had done it before but it never replaces (using the extended email plugin)
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[23:36:00] <mindless> jenkins-admin: make helterscelter a committer
[23:36:04] <jenkins-admin> Added helterscelter as a GitHub committer
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