[00:01:04] <mwhudson> hm
[00:01:15] <mwhudson> http://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-8755 links to http://jenkins-ci.org/commit/core/ddbf0c6cc050d8dfb72dc80418ccfb68aaac9bb5 but this commit seems to have disappeared?
[00:01:20] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8755:openid login doesn't work when https is terminated in apache (Resolved) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8755
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[00:13:49] <girasquid> I'm trying to set up pylint for my build, but when I run pylint it returns a return code that isn't 0 - is there a way to get Jenkins to ignore the fact that pylint came back with a non-0 return code?
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[00:14:44] <mwhudson> run pylint || /bin/true ?
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[00:15:15] <girasquid> thanks, I'll try that
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[00:15:55] <girasquid> That did it - thanks
[00:17:02] <mwhudson> girasquid: nothing to do with jenkins btw, just a shell programming trick :-)
[00:17:17] <girasquid> mwhudson: right - my shell-fu is pretty weak
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[00:19:23] <mwhudson> i worry about how strong mine is :/
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[00:20:13] <lifeless> mwhudson: presumably it was a rebase
[00:20:38] <lifeless> mwhudson: you should whine on the list, get some visibility: the core group don't /really/ get gits mechanics
[00:20:55] <mwhudson> lifeless: the commit seems gone, i don't see it in the log
[00:21:00] * mwhudson checks a bit harder
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[01:21:43] <jenkinsci_builds> Project jenkins_main_trunk build #508: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 26 min: http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/job/jenkins_main_trunk/508/
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[02:11:02] * codestr0m feels there's no plugin devs to hire
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[04:30:02] <ka6sox> codestr0m, whats a "plugin dev"
[04:30:29] <codestr0m> ka6sox: someone who can help us write or modify an existing plugin for jenkins
[04:31:19] <ka6sox> well..I suppose if anybody was willing to and needed the $$$ they would be here.
[04:31:59] <codestr0m> ka6sox: well. that's who we're looking to find
[04:32:08] <ka6sox> GL...
[04:32:21] <ka6sox> <<< Not Dev...SysAdmin
[04:32:39] <kohsuke> codestr0m: what kind of development do you have in mind?
[04:34:50] <ka6sox> is there a rule of thumb for # of outstanding build X (so many MB/outstanding build)= total ram needed?
[04:35:06] <kohsuke> Not really.
[04:36:11] <ka6sox> the only java thing I use is the webOS doctors and they are 200MB large but contain an entire device image.
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[04:37:44] <ka6sox> http://www.openembedded.org/index.php/Testing
[04:37:55] <ka6sox> this is the list of things we are regressing
[04:38:13] <ka6sox> and I believe we have 15 distributed builders doing it now.
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[04:51:41] <codestr0m> kohsuke: https://gist.github.com/0c5b25643bac3bf93a96
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[04:52:35] <codestr0m> kohsuke: really #4 is the most important
[04:52:44] <codestr0m> #5 is after that
[04:52:51] <codestr0m> others would just be nice to have
[04:53:10] <rtyler> I recognize your handle
[04:53:14] <rtyler> bergstrom...hmm
[04:53:17] <rtyler> where do I know you from
[04:53:45] <rtyler> ah, pathscale, that's likely it
[04:54:05] <codestr0m> rtyler: -> #pathscale
[04:54:21] * rtyler nods
[04:58:37] <codestr0m> rtyler: so how do you know pathscale and me?
[05:01:42] <rtyler> I stumbled across pathscale a few months ago
[05:01:46] <rtyler> I can't remember in what context
[05:02:03] <codestr0m> rtyler: humbly high performance compiler
[05:02:28] <codestr0m> now we're looking to migrate to a better way to automate builds and trend some extra data
[05:02:45] <rtyler> I know what it is, I just can't remember why I was looking at it :D
[05:02:57] <codestr0m> rtyler: you care about performance? ; )
[05:03:32] <codestr0m> we have a gpgpu product coming up and will possibly introduce some support for cloud provisioning
[05:05:21] <rtyler> zomg stop selling me
[05:05:53] <codestr0m> rtyler: lol.. you don't know me..
[05:05:58] * codestr0m is mostly joking
[05:06:43] <rtyler> this is going to bug the hell out of me until I figure it out
[05:07:55] <codestr0m> rtyler: anyway.. the only reason I'm here is to find a plugin developer.. so help me resolve that
[05:08:30] <codestr0m> rtyler: I don't think I've ever talked with you before..
[05:13:03] <rtyler> cbergstrom is familiar though, do any Python or Eventlet work?
[05:13:16] <rtyler> codestr0m: I suggest asking on the jenksinci-dev list, I'm sure there's plenty of folks up for contracting
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[05:17:15] <ka6sox> rtyler, after reading the doco this is what I was looking for.
[05:17:32] <rtyler> wat?
[05:17:41] * rtyler is confused
[05:17:48] <ka6sox> jenkins-ci
[05:17:52] <rtyler> ah yes
[05:17:58] <rtyler> we are what you're lookin' for ;)
[05:18:03] <ka6sox> indeed.
[05:18:35] <ka6sox> I have to "inherit" all the boxes and put them under our command but they are willing so that will work.
[05:18:46] <rtyler> I recommend using SSH slaves btw
[05:18:50] <rtyler> JNLP slaves are crap
[05:18:53] <rtyler> so fickle
[05:19:36] <rtyler> okay
[05:19:41] <rtyler> how do I get off these hudson lists now?
[05:19:58] <abayer> Send an email to the list saying "unsubscribe", apparently. =)
[05:20:01] <rtyler> hahaha
[05:20:45] <rtyler> the wifey was telling me to be careful with my snarkiness
[05:20:53] <rtyler> apparently she's worried Oracle might put out a hit on me
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[05:23:09] <ka6sox> rtyler, I wouldnt dream of using JNLP.
[05:25:01] <rtyler> if you can SSH into all your slaves, then great!
[05:25:17] <rtyler> the machine at the office I have building things conspicuously can't have SSH inbound :/
[05:26:07] <rtyler> abayer: where's that TODO list of things I can do to help us move faster and better, etc :)
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[05:29:36] <rtyler> anybody in Asia online right now?
[05:30:01] <codestr0m> rtyler: why?
[05:30:25] <rtyler> I want to test this mirror node to make sure that only asian hosts are getting it
[05:30:37] <codestr0m> rtyler: url?
[05:30:49] <rtyler> still scanning the mirror, uno moment
[05:32:15] <ka6sox> rtyler, oh, I thougth the slaves would login into the server...the slaves are behind corp firewalls and can't be gotten to.
[05:32:37] <rtyler> ka6sox: that might prove troublesome :/
[05:32:47] <rtyler> unless you can get them to keep tunnels open :/
[05:33:10] <rtyler> the big problem with JNLP slaves is that they don't weather network connectivity issues too well
[05:33:24] <ka6sox> I need a simpler mechanism.
[05:33:31] <rtyler> we've gotten into some situations on ci.jenkins-ci.org where a slave thinks it's online, but the server doesn't, etc
[05:33:35] <rtyler> hmm
[05:33:37] <ka6sox> for building debian they used email.
[05:33:45] <rtyler> o_O
[05:33:49] <ka6sox> "here is your assignment" let me know when you are done
[05:33:54] <codestr0m> rtyler: anyway.. I'm around if you need someone to test
[05:34:06] <rtyler> codestr0m: noted, still scanning the mirror from US/West
[05:34:08] <rtyler> takes a little while
[05:34:32] <ka6sox> rtyler, this should be as simple as polling a webserver on the master and picking up work.
[05:34:43] <ka6sox> and then putting back the results
[05:35:07] <rtyler> part of what makes Jenkins useful for most usecases is that it does queue management
[05:35:15] <rtyler> your usecase sounds more speshuler
[05:35:45] <rtyler> abayer: jumping on VPN to kick remote-slave-5 online again
[05:35:51] <rtyler> let's hope it doesn't devour memory
[05:36:00] <ka6sox> the hosts are going to be told build everything for this distro, this toolchain, this target.
[05:36:09] <ka6sox> and report back.
[05:36:24] <ka6sox> (thats a 1-3 day processes)
[05:36:40] <rtyler> yikes
[05:37:37] <ka6sox> so "queueing" means waiting till this one is done(or fails) and then giving them the next one to chew on.
[05:38:30] <rtyler> I'm not aware of other slave handlers other than JNLP or SSH
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[05:39:55] <ka6sox> hmmm...
[05:41:03] <ka6sox> how much data is passed between them during the build. it wouldn't be unheard of for a particular run to have 5000-6000 packages built for the entire run and take 100GB
[05:43:06] <rtyler> I don't think that's really a problem
[05:47:14] <ka6sox> maybe this is overkill as the bitbake process reports success or failure along the way but I just needed a supervisor to keep things moving.
[05:47:34] <ka6sox> and when the process is done(or fails) hand out the next assignment.
[05:50:14] <kohsuke> codestr0m: if you don't mind my contacting you about your plugin development, can you PM your contact info?
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[05:53:32] <rtyler> codestr0m: ping
[05:53:41] <codestr0m> rtyler: pong
[05:56:15] <rtyler> hmm
[05:57:54] <rtyler> codestr0m: I have the mirror set up isn't working as well I thought
[05:58:44] <rtyler> codestr0m: can execute `wget --debug "http://mirrors.jenkins-ci.org/war/latest/jenkins.war"`
[05:58:51] <rtyler> and tell me where it's redirecting you from
[05:59:50] <codestr0m> rtyler: https://gist.github.com/4cbea76be495036c7a12
[06:00:22] <rtyler> hm, where's that from location-wise?
[06:00:35] <codestr0m> thailand
[06:00:40] <rtyler> interesting
[06:00:47] * codestr0m doesn't think so
[06:01:02] <codestr0m> anyway.. I can do more tests from around the world if needed
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[14:10:26] <jenkinsci_builds> Project jenkins_main_trunk build #509: FAILURE in 7 min 55 sec: http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/job/jenkins_main_trunk/509/
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[14:48:48] <justafish> hey all, I asked someone a few days ago in here if it'd be possible to create a war or jenkins that contains pre-configured jobs which apparently I can't. Would it be feasible to have init.groovy check out some job folders from a git repo into jenkins home and do it that way?
[14:49:05] <justafish> *war of jenkins
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[14:57:05] <Weltraumschaf> jenkins will not update my plugin on upload: INFO: Ignoring /var/lib/hudson/plugins/darcs-0.2.2.hpi because /var/lib/hudson/plugins/darcs-0.2.1.hpi is already loaded
[14:57:20] <Weltraumschaf> why it is ignoring it? its a newer version
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[14:59:25] <drulli> there is only one plug-in per ID allowed in the plug-in folder.
[15:00:03] <Weltraumschaf> what is id about? artefact id in pom.xml?
[15:00:41] <drulli> Yes, the plug-in ID.
[15:01:03] <Weltraumschaf> i thought that i only need to count up the vrsion in pom.xml, rum mvn package and upload the .hpi to jenkins
[15:01:46] <drulli> That is still ok, but in the plug-in folder of your installation the plug-in ID must be unique...
[15:02:38] <Weltraumschaf> i don't have controll over that, i only upload the .hpi. why doesnt jenkins "kills" the old one?
[15:03:01] <drulli> jenkins-admin: Make gboissinot a committer on github
[15:03:03] <jenkins-admin> Added gboissinot as a GitHub committer
[15:04:08] <drulli> Hmm, do you have the version as part of your ID? In my plug-in folder the plug-ins don't have a version ID.
[15:05:27] <Weltraumschaf> drulli: https://github.com/Weltraumschaf/hudson-darcs/blob/master/pom.xml and the files i name darcs-VERSION.hpi
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[15:10:39] <Weltraumschaf> hmmm. ok, i think i see the problem:> i named the hpis with version and uloaded them, now i have in the plugins dir more than one plugin and hudson will choose the first one it sees, i gues
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[15:12:41] <jieryn-w> drulli: thanks for updating that guy on github
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[15:48:15] <jenkinsci_builds> Yippie, build fixed!
[15:48:15] <jenkinsci_builds> Project jenkins_main_trunk build #510: FIXED in 1 hr 11 min: http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/job/jenkins_main_trunk/510/
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[15:56:33] <jieryn-w> maybe we should split that job into a few pieces?
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[16:33:44] <codestr0m> I'm kinda wondering why care what's the difference between jenkins and hudson
[16:34:13] <codestr0m> nearly any open source project this popular should have 1-2 freelance devs around
[16:34:28] <codestr0m> (but *nobody* has replied.. only commercial offers)
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[16:37:27] <jieryn-w> because of plugins
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[16:40:14] <codestr0m> jieryn-w: were you replying to me?
[16:40:48] <jieryn-w> yes
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[16:51:09] <rioch> I've defined an axis in a multiconfiguration job. How do I use that inside a build step (batch command in this case)?
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[16:55:21] <cowboyd> rioch: just access it as an environment variable.
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[16:56:33] <rioch> cowboyd, so just %name% in the script?
[16:57:06] <cowboyd> not familiar with windows env variables, but yes
[16:57:17] <rioch> I'll give it a try.
[16:57:20] <rioch> Thanks
[16:57:41] <cowboyd> I generally just start out with an echo $AXIS_NAME
[16:57:50] <cowboyd> to make sure that I'm referencing it correctly.
[16:57:56] <rioch> nice idea
[16:59:50] <rioch> I suppose all build steps are repeated, or just those that use the configuration setting?
[17:05:21] <stisti> Yes, all build steps are repeated
[17:06:37] <rioch> So if I only wanted certain build steps repeated, I'd have to put the "common" ones into a separate job and execute it downstream?
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[17:24:17] <jieryn-w> abayer: hey.. you there? i need a hand with something
[17:24:24] <abayer> What's up?
[17:24:30] <jieryn-w> i'm 99% done with a fix to a watched bug, but trying to fully test my change.. ugh
[17:24:38] <jieryn-w> i build my change in core with mvn install
[17:25:00] <jieryn-w> i go to war and clean build, then jetty:run; jetty:run-war; and package ; java -war  all failing
[17:25:16] <abayer> That's odd.
[17:25:20] <abayer> brb
[17:25:23] <jieryn-w> how should i test this?
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[17:25:24] <jieryn-w> k
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[17:25:44] <abayer> (sorry, when I'm in a channel for too long without closing the tab it gobs up on me)
[17:25:51] <jieryn-w> k np
[17:26:06] <abayer> I dunno. If building the war is failing, that seems like a problem.
[17:26:10] <jieryn-w> i mean, the war builds
[17:26:45] <jieryn-w> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/338424/
[17:26:52] <jieryn-w> but taking NPE pretty strange
[17:27:00] <jieryn-w> i'm pretty sure this is user error, local to me
[17:27:36] <abayer> Hrm. That is really weird.
[17:28:00] <jieryn-w> Mailer is null
[17:29:42] <abayer> Feels like that shouldn't be getting called yet?
[17:29:55] <abayer> Try killing mdns - -Dhudson.DNSMulticast=disabled
[17:31:01] <jieryn-w> no joy
[17:31:12] <jieryn-w> i think it's a diff property, lemme check
[17:31:24] <abayer> ack, -Dhudson.DNSMulticast.disabled=true
[17:31:25] <abayer> brain fart.
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[17:37:19] <jieryn-w> same..weird
[17:37:51] <abayer> Ok, that's really strange. It shouldn't be doing the mdns stuff if that property is set...
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[17:50:28] <mindless> wow, how many new plugins came out last week?
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[18:00:37] <mindless> jenkins-admin: fork andretedau/ScheduledTasksView on github as ScheduledTasksView-plugin
[18:00:40] <jenkins-admin> Failed to fork a repository: {"error":"User not found"}
[18:01:01] <mindless> jenkins-admin: fork andretadeu/ScheduledTasksView on github as ScheduledTasksView-plugin
[18:01:25] <jenkins-admin> Created https://github.com/jenkinsci/ScheduledTasksView-plugin
[18:01:29] * jieryn-w claps excitedly
[18:01:39] <mindless> hm
[18:01:52] <jieryn-w> jenkins-admin magic
[18:02:02] <jieryn-w> do we want to teach him to create ci jobs?
[18:02:53] <mindless> could.. it's only a few clicks though, so less motivation to automate
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[18:11:40] <RSchulzB> Is there a way to interlock two independent Jenkins jobs so their execution never overlaps?
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[18:12:26] <larrys> RSchulzB: http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Locks+and+Latches+plugin
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[18:12:38] <RSchulzB> Thank you.
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[18:19:35] <mindless> kohsuke: abayer: what's the current status of rss feed for releases?  is there something out there i'm not aware of?
[18:19:44] <abayer> I have absolutely no idea. =)
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[18:19:59] <kohsuke> I have written some prototype script that generates the feed that I'm verifying now
[18:20:05] <mindless> okee
[18:20:31] <mindless> fyi, there's 1 plugin now using private scm.. build-pipeline-plugin
[18:21:38] <RSchulzB> Jenkins (1.396) starts up a lot faster than Hudson (1.386). Nice work! But my favorite fix is the undoing of the umask madness.
[18:21:41] <kohsuke> I wonder if the author is simply unaware of what's going on?
[18:21:42] <abayer> I think the Sonar plugin's doing the same sort of thing.
[18:22:26] <kohsuke> RSchulzB: glad to hear that it had a lot of changes you liked --- please spread the words so that more people switch!
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[18:24:36] <RSchulzB> Sure thing. I also noted to my Scala buddies that the upgrade path as described on the jenkins-ci.org Web site was very smooth.
[18:25:25] <mindless> hm, no wiki page for this plugin either
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[18:27:31] <evilchili> mindless: the copy artifact w/ parameters stuff is working perfectly.  Thanks so much.  I do note that specifying the job as FOO/PARAM=1&PARAM=2[?] fails tho
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[18:27:43] <evilchili> it needs to be FOO/PARAM=1,PARAM=2
[18:27:50] <mindless> well, yes
[18:27:57] <mindless> you asked for the same format as matrix, right?
[18:27:59] <mindless> ;-)
[18:28:03] <evilchili> dunno if that's on purpose or an oversight
[18:28:07] <evilchili> heh no worries
[18:28:12] <mindless> matrix uses comma
[18:28:34] <evilchili> which seems consistent with other uses of those (in matrix labels, etc).  Just thought I'd mention
[18:28:59] <mindless> glad it's working :-)
[18:29:13] <evilchili> anyway. it's awesome.  Can I buy you a beer and/or some widget from some online widget retailer?
[18:29:28] <evilchili> (you just cut our disk usage by 50%)
[18:29:33] <mindless> heh
[18:30:07] <mindless> just find ways to keep contributing to the project, thx :-)
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[18:42:34] <pronik> Is there a downloadables/rsyncable mirror of http://updates.jenkins-ci.org/latest/ anywhere?
[18:43:10] <pronik> My team is expanding our Jenkins usage, however we are behind a corporate proxy which block everything *.class
[18:43:29] <pronik> so I want to make a local mirror of the plugin repository or use an existing one
[18:43:33] <rtyler> hmm
[18:43:42] <rtyler> pronik: we have stuff up on mirrors.jenkins-ci.org
[18:44:05] <rtyler> the contents there are rsyncable, but we prefer the rsync only for secondary mirrors
[18:44:31] <pronik> rtyler: however, there is probably no update-center.json
[18:44:48] <pronik> and I wouldn't want to download all the previous revisions (for servers' sake)
[18:45:22] <rpetti> You can't just unblock that url?
[18:45:23] <rtyler> ah, so you want an rsyncable update-center?
[18:45:30] <pronik> I could download the updates jsons from update.jenkins-ci.org and the rest from mirrors.*, the question is actually: which way would you recommend / allow
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[18:46:03] <pronik> rpetti: no, a global virus scanner on the proxy expands all archives and blocks the download if has some class files in it
[18:46:32] <rpetti> so there's no provision for unblocking specific urls
[18:46:39] <rpetti> seems kind of crummy :/
[18:46:42] <pronik> rtyler: essentially. I can find a way to download the files via cron or something, but only manually.
[18:46:46] <pronik> rpetti: it's no fun :)
[18:47:11] <pronik> rtyler: If I could point Jenkins to some local URL which I'd update regularly, I'd be happy
[18:47:11] <rtyler> wget --mirror? :P
[18:47:17] <rtyler> hmm
[18:47:21] <rtyler> interesting usecase
[18:47:22] <rtyler> :D
[18:47:46] <pronik> rtyler: maybe some good soul could put all latest hpi in a git repo... ;)
[18:48:09] <rtyler> O_o
[18:48:17] <rtyler> git is terrible for managing binary files
[18:48:17] <rtyler> heh
[18:48:23] <pronik> essentially, I could sync only the updates.jenkins-ci.org/latest directory, if the files inside were visible
[18:48:24] <rtyler> what about a tarball? :P
[18:48:35] <rtyler> what's special about updates.jenkins-ci?
[18:48:39] <rpetti> https?
[18:48:50] <pronik> rtyler: it's got update-center.json
[18:49:05] <pronik> other than that, no preference, I'd take mirrors.* anytime
[18:49:22] <pronik> ah, one other thing: updates.* has links to latest binaries, mirrors.* does not
[18:49:42] <pronik> rpetti: proxy terminates the SSL session :(
[18:50:10] <mwalling> wow, and i thought our bluecoat settings were bad
[18:50:29] <rtyler> heh
[18:51:00] <rpetti> pronik: and you get work done... how?!
[18:51:25] <rtyler> that's what happens when Mubarak is your CTO
[18:51:28] <rtyler> (too soon?)
[18:51:32] <rpetti> XD
[18:51:41] <pronik> mwalling: it's actually a lot worse: if you initiate a download, proxy takes some time to virus check that, so the download starts successfully, but terminates with a part-file, try again and you get a 403
[18:51:53] <rtyler> wat
[18:51:55] <rtyler> O_O
[18:52:05] <evilchili> ...
[18:52:06] <pronik> rpetti: yeah, I can manage a lot of things, like having only a 19" display in front of me
[18:52:06] <mwalling> pronik: yeah, we get that too
[18:52:28] <mwalling> wait, you dont work here, do you?
[18:52:42] <pronik> depends on what *here* means ;)
[18:52:45] <pronik> mwalling:
[18:52:57] * mwalling compensates for his 19" monitor restriction with 4 of them
[18:53:04] <pronik> mwalling: not allowed here
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[18:53:13] <pronik> and I'm a web developer *cries*
[18:53:22] <rtyler> O_O
[18:53:23] <mwalling> pronik: i've got 4 computers *cough*
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[18:53:36] <rtyler> pronik: in all fairness, mwalling has four Pentium II computers
[18:53:44] <pronik> :D
[18:53:50] <larrys> I thought one was a 486sx
[18:54:03] <mwalling> 2 of them are P4s, ones my laptop and ones my desktop
[18:54:25] <rtyler> how many of them are authorized
[18:54:26] <rtyler> xD
[18:54:27] <rpetti> I find myself doing that. 3 computers to make up for how crappy they are.
[18:54:38] <pronik> rtyler: so essentially, coming back to the problem, if I just mirror the mirrors.* and extend that with jsons from updates.* I'd be ok and jenkins server team wouldn't send killer troops my way?
[18:54:54] <jieryn-w> ok, i screwed up my pull request.. i mean, it's fine, but..
[18:54:55] <rtyler> pronik: you can safely rsync?
[18:55:06] <jieryn-w> could a git expert write up the actual commands we should use? :)
[18:55:18] <mwalling> pronik: wait, you can rsync but not https?
[18:55:18] <rtyler> git obliterate --hard
[18:55:30] <pronik> rtyler: I can safely git pull and http download from my own server, i.e. I'd prepare a mirror at home (no restrictions)
[18:55:55] <rtyler> where do you WORK O_O
[18:56:02] <jieryn-w> i thought i already shipped a fix for JENKINS-7275, but when i submitted a new pull request for JENKINS-8647, it contained the previous fix :-(
[18:56:10] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-7275:lock down plugin versions to shut up m3 (Resolved) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/7275
[18:56:11] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8647:Hudson 1.395 logs many messages about RecordReaper IllegalArgumentException  (Open) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8647
[18:56:23] <pronik> rtyler: governmental company-like establishment :)
[18:56:28] <rtyler> pronik: what we can probably do is get you rsyncing from the OSUOSL
[18:56:34] <rtyler> pronik: no way! mwalling works at oracle too
[18:56:37] * rtyler ducks
[18:56:38] <larrys> lol
[18:56:54] * pronik thanks god it's larrys, not larrye
[18:57:11] <jieryn-w> heh
[18:57:18] <pronik> rtyler: it's about at greedy and clueless :)
[18:57:18] <rtyler> anyhoo, so we can get you set up rsyncing, I'm not sure what I can do about your update center woes
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[18:57:36] <larrys> I apologize for people who are named Larry that bring a bad connotation to the name.
[18:57:39] <pronik> rtyler: rsync -av rsync://ftp-chi.osuosl.org/jenkins/plugins . works
[18:57:54] <rtyler> wtf, I didn't know they had rsync on that box
[18:57:55] <rtyler> :D
[18:58:09] <pronik> rtyler: any idea how big the mirror is?
[18:58:17] <rtyler> I would consider that specific URL as "unsupported"
[18:58:28] <rtyler> let me do a quick check on the primary OSUOSL box
[18:58:31] <rtyler> just /plugins/ right?
[18:58:34] <pronik> correct
[18:58:46] <rtyler> prease hold
[18:58:56] <rtyler> 2.4GB
[18:58:56] * pronik ponders how to get only the latest plugin version without downloading everything
[18:59:00] <pronik> that's fine
[18:59:15] <rtyler> I don't yet have a good system of symlinks set up for the latest version
[18:59:58] <pronik> rtyler: if you filled http://updates.jenkins-ci.org/latest/ with content, it'd be fine :)
[19:00:25] <rtyler> I'm afraid I can't do that dave
[19:00:37] <mwalling> whyfor?
[19:00:45] <rtyler> I don't know what's supposed to be there or what isn't
[19:01:20] <pronik> rtyler: I wasn't *that* serious ;)
[19:01:21] <mwalling> you cant build that from the json?
[19:01:53] <rtyler> you guys are really assuming I know what I'm doing
[19:01:55] <pronik> mwalling: hmmm, could be nice idea, would require a bit of programming, but should work nicely
[19:02:04] <rtyler> I am barely competent enough to run the mirrors
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[19:02:07] <mwalling> pronik: rtyler could write it in ada
[19:02:13] * rtyler stabs mwalling
[19:02:14] <rtyler> Python!
[19:02:17] <pronik> perl!
[19:02:23] <mwalling> rtyler: i thought you loved ada now
[19:02:26] <pronik> does rtyler work at DOD?
[19:02:39] <rtyler> mwalling: I do, but I don't use it for scripting for chrissakes
[19:02:55] <mwalling> :)
[19:03:17] <rtyler> pronik: no, I have been experimenting with Ada as a replacement for C in systems programming
[19:03:23] <rtyler> and mwalling likes to make fun of me
[19:03:33] * mwalling bows
[19:03:53] <rtyler> `sudo yum upgrade jenkins`
[19:03:54] <rtyler> feels good
[19:04:39] <rtyler> pronik: so what you want is what in /latest/?
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[19:06:03] <pronik> rtyler: probably... the problem is: JSON should actually point to the files in /latest/
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[19:06:45] <pronik> so if I could a) install plugins via filesystem and b) enable them selectively, then downloading latest/ would be perfect
[19:06:47] <rtyler> should for whom? the reason it points to mirrors is because it's redirecting to mirrors
[19:07:07] <pronik> rtyler: exactly, therefore I'm not sure anymore I want /latest/ ;)
[19:07:15] <pronik> Talking helps thinking, it seems
[19:07:34] <rtyler> hm
[19:07:34] <pronik> I'd probably parse the JSONs and go straight to the mirrors for the latest files
[19:09:16] <mpholt> Hi all.. I am trying to set Jenkins up with 3 different profiles (Dev, QA, and Prod) for each WAR project. However, since I will be using the Maven release plugin to automate the SVN naming (ie, copying trunk to a QA branch with the version number increasing), I can't manually hardcode the SVN location for the QA branch. Is there a way to have a dynamic SVN path for a project? Such as using a environment variable named QA or something
[19:09:30] <pronik> I have no idea how Jenkins' servers are built, but I would have had JSON point to the latest directory on updates.* which would point to the versioned file on updates.* which would then point to the mirrors
[19:10:48] <rtyler> pronik: if we had the time to "stop production" and lay things out the right way, that's probably one of the avenues we'd explore
[19:10:56] <rtyler> our current distribution system grew rather organically
[19:11:12] <rtyler> mirrors.* was a side-project of mine while we were still called Hudson
[19:12:26] <pronik> that's not *that* far away ;)
[19:12:50] <rtyler> well, it went from side-project to "we need an independent distribution mechanism" very quickly
[19:12:51] <pronik> at least according to news, maybe that change is a lot older for project internals
[19:13:14] <pronik> it seems logical
[19:13:40] <rtyler> there's still lots of things I/we can probably do better, but it kind of comes down to time
[19:13:57] <rtyler> previously generation of update-center.json has been entirely independent from anything pertaining to mirrors
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[19:14:11] <rtyler> we probably should pull those things together to build a more cohesive release pipeline
[19:14:20] <rtyler> (see: time excuse/whining)
[19:14:36] <pronik> (see: things I know from own experience) ;)
[19:14:55] <rtyler> hwh
[19:14:58] <rtyler> heh* rather
[19:15:43] <rtyler> if you're providing an internal mirror of jenkins plugins, you can probably grab update-center.json and rewrite it pretty easily
[19:15:56] <rtyler> if you can then host it somewhere internally, then you can update the URL jenkins uses to point to that
[19:16:58] <evilchili> hrm. just upgraded from hudson to jenkins; jenkins seems not to be honoring the ?prefix arg (specified in my /etc/default/jenkins)
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[19:17:06] <evilchili> is this known? or user error?
[19:17:28] <pronik> rtyler: I'd be experimenting a bit now. Probably will just extract the URL list from JSON and sync those
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[19:18:01] <rtyler> evilchili: debian?
[19:18:06] <evilchili> rtyler: yeh
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[19:23:54] <rpetti> kohsuke: I'm updating JENKINS-7809 as we speak. :)
[19:23:58] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-7809:Remote Launcher randomly returns no data. (Open) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/7809
[19:24:08] <kohsuke> great
[19:24:43] <kohsuke> This bug is one of the most mysterious to me
[19:24:54] <rpetti> yeah
[19:25:21] <rpetti> it's a combination of the way we're using the Launcher, and an odd race condition.
[19:26:40] <rtyler> kohsuke: one of the guys who runs a lot of CentOS architecture is setting up a UK mirror as we speak
[19:26:52] <rtyler> FYI
[19:27:25] <evilchili> yeah ?prefix is definitely broken
[19:28:46] <evilchili> I get the "please wait while jenkins is getting ready to work" on the correct (prefixed) URL (though /static/* is broken).  Once the startup is complete, tho: http://jenkins.pastebin.com/TrTm90UE
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[19:34:15] <abayer> I'm resetting the dogfood user creds on Jenkins JIRA and the CAPTCHA it's giving me is (and I am not making this up) "porned".
[19:34:31] <mwalling> lulz
[19:34:54] <rtyler> I didn't know you could verb porn
[19:35:09] <jieryn-w> it's like the linguistic versalitity of 'fuck'
[19:35:39] <rtyler> ka6sox: still around?]
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[19:39:05] <abayer> kohsuke: How would I remove an Action from a build?
[19:40:12] <kohsuke> getActions().remove(...)
[19:40:26] <abayer> Gotcha. I always forget what to do with collections. =)
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[19:52:06] <evilchili> just opened jenkins-8792 regarding my ?prefix issues; apologies if it's a dup or user error but I can't seem to resolve it.
[19:52:09] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8792:--prefix ignored (Open) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8792
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[20:20:40] <evilchili> jieryn-w: love the console column plugin, but could we have the option to change/remove the column headers? makes for a lot of wasted space
[20:20:53] <ka6sox> rtyler, ya, sorry
[20:21:11] <ka6sox> stepped out for a bit
[20:21:31] <rtyler> UNAKZEPTIERBAR
[20:21:54] <rtyler> ka6sox: if you want to talk with the chaps that are online now about OE's tough usecase, perhaps they can help?
[20:22:06] <rtyler> more folks are online slacking during the week than sunday evening ;)
[20:22:09] <ka6sox> sure
[20:22:52] <ka6sox> jas...
[20:22:54] <jieryn-w> evilchili: ok! i will add that feature, i agree it is a lot of space
[20:22:55] <ka6sox> getting a link
[20:23:21] <evilchili> jieryn-w: sweet!
[20:24:00] <ka6sox> rtyler, this is the matrix of what we are testing:
[20:24:01] <ka6sox> http://www.openembedded.org/index.php/Testing
[20:24:24] <ka6sox> over 1/2 of the builders are behind corporate FWs
[20:24:42] <rtyler> holy crap
[20:24:42] <jieryn-w> evilchili: http://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-8793
[20:24:48] <rtyler> I didn't look at the matrix last night
[20:24:53] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8793:allow user-customized strings for table headers (Open) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8793
[20:24:55] <ka6sox> a typical build is between 1-3days in length.
[20:25:03] <evilchili> :D
[20:25:10] <jieryn-w> in case you wanna watch it for updates
[20:25:55] <ka6sox> there are some 20 different toolchains, 50~60 targets and 5 different types of builds.
[20:26:07] <ka6sox> (depending on the hardware that the targets support.
[20:27:06] <rtyler> ka6sox: I think this /can/ live in Jenkins, the corporate firewall thing is tricky
[20:27:25] <ka6sox> it currently reports back progress in little tiny HTTP puts (about 1-2Million/hr) to a apache/django/mysql thing
[20:27:49] <ka6sox> and eventually is seen here: http://tinderbox.openembedded.org
[20:29:19] <ka6sox> (before our DBA got ahold of that thing it was doing 15ea 16million record unindexed searches to display that first page)
[20:31:27] <ka6sox> all that to say I want to use a tool that manages this a bit better.
[20:31:52] <ka6sox> so my question is this.
[20:32:23] <ka6sox> are the slaves fire and forget till done or are you constantly monitoring progress and need to stay connected.
[20:33:00] <rtyler> fire and forget doesn't really exist, but you can use external jobs to have "external" processes report in to Jenkins jobs
[20:33:53] <ka6sox> okay, one more "wrinkle" to this
[20:34:30] <ka6sox> the whole build process for openembedded is built around a series of python things all collectively called "Bitbake"
[20:34:38] * rtyler has worked with bitbake before
[20:34:47] <ka6sox> good.
[20:34:57] <ka6sox> makes it easier to understand what we are up against
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[20:41:43] <rtyler> it might be worth talking to the SpringSource guys
[20:41:51] <rtyler> they build with Jenkins on top of a crapton of platforms
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[20:51:42] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: [FIXED JENKINS-8159] back to java-runtime
[20:51:43] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: [FIXED JENKINS-4047] not admin, should be adm.
[20:51:43] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: being more defensive, in seeing JENKINS-7809 and the following stack trace:
[20:51:44] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: Fix killing processes on MacOs 64bit
[20:51:44] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: Recording 18b92fe43abcde800d3ff2885b25f8a74f61714e
[20:51:45] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: fixed up some left over TODO comments
[20:51:45] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: Fix dependency on Java2 runtime for both Debian and Ubuntu
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[20:53:35] <rtyler> k/win2
[20:53:37] <rtyler> whoops
[20:56:59] <jieryn-w> ~oom
[20:57:00] <javabot> jieryn-w, what does that even *mean*?
[20:57:08] <jieryn-w> ~hang
[20:57:08] <javabot> jieryn-w, what does that even *mean*?
[20:58:03] <jieryn-w> ~hang is <reply>http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Jenkins+is+hanging
[20:58:04] <javabot> OK, jieryn-w.
[20:58:29] <jieryn-w> ~oom is <reply>http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/I'm+getting+OutOfMemoryError
[20:58:30] <javabot> OK, jieryn-w.
[20:59:00] <jieryn-w> ~plugins
[20:59:00] <javabot> to build a plugin based system you should consider either JPF (~jpf) or, for more complex uses, see OSGi.
[20:59:07] <jieryn-w> erm
[21:00:02] <abayer> http://twitter.com/#!/huettermann/statuses/37237773878575104
[21:00:18] <jieryn-w> LOL :)
[21:02:40] <abayer> Also, everyone remember to vote in http://www.wakaleo.com/resources/polls - it's only a 3.5:1 ratio for Jenkins to Hudson votes currently. =)
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[21:05:04] <abayer> And I honestly wonder how many of those voting for Hudson just haven't heard anything about the split.
[21:05:10] <evilpupu> many
[21:05:48] <ka6sox> rtyler, where would I find the SpringSource guys?
[21:07:08] <evilpupu> the hudson dev list get's more and more absurd and sickening
[21:07:26] <abayer> Honestly, there's nothing new there - it's just more public.
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[21:09:34] <mindless> what about new plugins going into java.net hosting?
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[21:09:47] <mindless> do we contact them, or just let it go?
[21:10:01] <abayer> I don't know - I don't see a problem with contacting them.
[21:10:13] * mindless just saw "trackplus"
[21:10:13] <evilpupu> abayer: that's true. as a silent user I'm just surprised on how people act towards each other. pardon on venting it out here.
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[21:10:36] <mindless> i'm not going to do it (contact them).. just mentioning the possibility
[21:10:38] <abayer> No worries. It's understandable.
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[21:26:30] <abayer> I really appreciate the changelog now being in the same directory as Jenkins proper. =)
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[21:28:24] <abayer> heh. I think that's my first actual push to core since the rename.
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[21:49:14] <mindless> abayer: w00t!
[21:49:27] <mindless> welcome to the core team ;-)
[21:52:20] <abayer> =P
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[21:56:53] <jieryn-w> evilchili: i think maybe this is a bigger problem
[21:57:01] <jieryn-w> maybe columns should have overridable names
[21:57:19] <evilchili> that would be nice too
[21:57:22] <hare_brain> abayer: Did you sign the SCA first before you pushed the release? ;)
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[22:00:24] <abayer> =P
[22:00:31] <abayer> Also I didn't push a release. So there!
[22:05:41] <jieryn-w> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl/status/37219707106889728
[22:06:33] <abayer> Yeah. I guess it doesn't take much to get community approval when your entire community is like 10 people. =)
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[22:08:01] <jieryn-w> heh
[22:08:07] <abayer> argh, m.g.o. is down.
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[22:10:26] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: issue 7275 was not reported in tagged changelog, sorry
[22:10:26] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: [FIXED JENKINS-8647] Many messages about RecordReaper IllegalArgumentException
[22:10:27] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: update changelog for fix to JENKINS-8647
[22:10:27] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: Added pre-checkout method.
[22:10:28] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: doc improvement
[22:10:28] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: Recording changes in af1a4a2036f93f4b26d71a18a307d4e2d30fb143
[22:10:29] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: [FIXED HUDSON-8420] With IBM JDK for example, it seems like there's no
[22:10:29] <jenkinsci_builds> * Kohsuke Kawaguchi: [FIXED JENKINS-8420] recording 3c5c2c5cc335c1bb19c4e92bd4f75a715468dd33
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[22:16:24] <mwhudson> kohsuke: hi, what happened to the fix for http://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-8755 ?
[22:16:27] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8755:openid login doesn't work when https is terminated in apache (Reopened) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8755
[22:20:57] <wwwatson> Anyone have a suggestion for an authentication plugin?
[22:26:14] <mindless> hm, m.g.o still down?
[22:28:51] <jieryn-w> 503
[22:29:38] <rtyler> what's mgo again?
[22:29:50] <mindless> maven.glassfish.org
[22:29:58] <abayer> maven.glassfish.org, which we use for proxying Maven.
[22:30:00] <rtyler> ah
[22:30:57] <mindless> does scm-issue-link only watch core commits?
[22:31:21] <mindless> i didn't get any auto-updates in jira for my recent plugin changes
[22:31:33] <abayer> Let's find out!
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[22:31:57] <abayer> I just pushed a git plugin change. =)
[22:32:29] <kohsuke> mindless: it does respond but it's buggy
[22:32:47] <kohsuke> which is exactly what mwhudson is talking about wrt JENKINS-8755
[22:32:50] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8755:openid login doesn't work when https is terminated in apache (Reopened) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8755
[22:33:31] <mwhudson> ah
[22:33:37] <kohsuke> It puts a wrong link
[22:35:31] <mwhudson> oh, the commit was to openid-plugin
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[23:01:47] <jieryn-w> mwhudson: you should legally change your name to Michael Jenkins-Doyle
[23:02:25] <mwhudson> jieryn-w: i'm so happy about the rename
[23:02:49] <jieryn-w> i guess :) i'd think it would cause a lot of the joke i just made
[23:03:40] <mwhudson> although i did end up with a wiki page that talk about mwjenkins a lot as a result of careless search and replace :)
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[23:25:59] <kisielk> hah
[23:26:27] <kisielk> so I enabled the Jenkins jabber plugin
[23:26:45] <kisielk> today I had a bunch of people from management message me and ask who is this new Jenkins guy
[23:26:52] <kisielk> and when did we hire him
[23:27:43] <kisielk> they were concerned about the "I'm bored. Give me some work to do" status text
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[23:28:39] <rpetti> lol
[23:29:25] <_W_> haha
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[23:31:29] <rtyler> kisielk: tell them that Leeroy sits over in $remote_corner_of_office
[23:31:35] <rtyler> and they should go introduce themselves
[23:31:55] <rtyler> and he loves chicken, so maybe schedule a new-hire lunch? :P
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[23:33:06] <byteman> just read about the hudson vs jenkins battle - is jenkins winning so far?
[23:33:17] <abayer> Sure seems like it. =)
[23:33:37] <rtyler> byteman: we're all here :P
[23:33:58] <ka6sox> whats hudson?
[23:34:01] <byteman> haha
[23:34:09] <rtyler> who?
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[23:35:04] <byteman> has oracle tried to back-track at all, seeing what happened?
[23:35:17] <abayer> Not in the least.
[23:35:54] <byteman> wow, that's ridiculous! :)
[23:37:04] <byteman> well keep up the good work
[23:38:43] <rtyler> they're getting what they want (absolute control) and we're getting what we want (rid of them)
[23:38:46] * rtyler grins
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[23:39:21] <rpetti> they keep insisting that they are committed to supporting the hudson community
[23:39:28] <rpetti> but I wasn't aware there was one left
[23:39:57] <abayer> "I don't think that word means what you think it means", writ large.
[23:40:01] <rtyler> rpetti: Jason and Ted just IM back and forth all day "you're doing a great job" "no, you're doing a great job"
[23:40:04] <kisielk> heh, they also sent out that ridiculous survey
[23:40:12] <rpetti> lol
[23:40:20] <abayer> That survey was not ridiculous! I totally am going to win an iPad.
[23:40:26] <jieryn-w> i am
[23:40:42] <rtyler> NO WAI I AM
[23:40:43] <abayer> Which I will then give away in a contest for people who change from Hudson to Jenkins. =)
[23:40:56] <rtyler> hah
[23:41:46] <jieryn-w> STOP STEALING MY TEAM!
[23:42:24] <byteman> well, our company switched all our servers to jenkins
[23:42:42] <jieryn-w> i'd encourage all plugin devs to update min plugin level to jenkins 1.396
[23:42:49] <jieryn-w> in fact, i'm going to post to jenkins-dev about it
[23:42:56] <kisielk> ditto. Oracle already screwed us over with one product, wasn't about to let it happen with another
[23:43:14] <rpetti> jieryn-w: why's that?
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[23:45:31] <jieryn-w> because we're jenkins?
[23:46:07] <abayer> Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Jenkins!
[23:46:10] <rtyler> THIS IS JENNNKKKKKKKKINS
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[23:46:18] <abayer> Mine wins.
[23:46:30] <rtyler> don't make me kick you into a hole
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[23:46:44] <rtyler> well, I never saw the movie anyways
[23:49:09] <gmcdonald> jenkins 2.0 before hudson 2.0
[23:49:30] <rtyler> heh
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[23:50:02] <byteman> yeah, should get into a version war with hudson
[23:50:02] <evilchili> devo++
[23:50:19] <evilchili> I demand a jenkins logo in a devo hat.
[23:50:27] <abayer> Once we get a new logo. =)
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[23:50:34] <abayer> Reminds me, I'll send out the logo contest email.
[23:50:36] <rtyler> evilchili: that's your solution to everything
[23:50:48] <evilchili> what, demanding? or devo hats?
[23:50:58] <evilchili> because devo hats has *always* solved problems.
[23:51:20] <Ourson> I thought it was "just" a renaming, not a split
[23:53:22] <jieryn-w> i'm not a profesional political operative, but i'm pretty sure the "hudson" available via Oracle is best described as a counter revolution
[23:54:27] <abayer> Well, I don't know about *that*. But definitely reactionary and autocratic. =)
[23:54:38] * jieryn-w snickers
[23:54:55] <kisielk> what's the prize for the contest?
[23:55:08] <abayer> Getting your logo design on Jenkins? =)
[23:55:26] * rtyler eats cake
[23:55:35] <jieryn-w> rtyler will take you out to a fancy dinner, and give you a cardboard box in the shape of an ipad
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[23:56:15] <rtyler> I can do that
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[23:58:57] <rtyler> any brits in the room? I need a mirror test
[23:58:57] <abayer> We've been sustaining a 3.5:1 ratio on http://www.wakaleo.com/resources/polls for today - shame it's not higher. =)
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[23:59:17] <abayer> ?I wish I were British. Does that count?
[23:59:20] <larrys> "Every time someone posts 'unsubscribe' from hudson-*, an angel gets its wings."





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