[00:00:51] <mwalling> jieryn-w: i call them failex
[00:01:13] <autojack> rpetti: I agree
[00:01:41] <mwalling> jieryn-w: 3 days before christmas in 2008 they threw a deliver exception on a sunny day with temps in the low 40s. i called TN, he put me on hold, came back laughing, said that they had plowed the shipping container in and it froze so they couldnt open it
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[00:07:21] <Omni|Work> I have a patch for cppunit. It's a very small patch, about 5 more lines in the .xsd file.
[00:07:53] <Omni|Work> https://github.com/Omnifarious/Jenkins-CppUnit-plugin/commit/331c6a9ab772bc615f7906aad27caf2bbf137588
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[00:20:19] <kenneth_reitz> abayer thanks, that went great!
[00:20:31] <abayer> =)
[00:21:37] <Omni|Work> Who manages the cppunit plugin so I can make sure this patch gets in?
[00:21:44] <kohsuke> Omni|Work: write to gbois at java dot net
[00:21:52] <kohsuke> I think he can take it from there
[00:21:56] <Omni|Work> Thanks.
[00:22:01] <kohsuke> Thank you for the patch
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[00:25:06] <statlor> dangit I did it again
[00:25:12] <hare_brain> kohsuke: I think you may have been away when I mentioned this earlier. It looks like fisheye.jenkins-ci.org is still authenticating with java.net instead of the new LDAP server.
[00:25:23] <kohsuke> Ah, that's right
[00:25:28] <kohsuke> Will fix it.
[00:25:38] * kohsuke wonders what 'hare_brain' means
[00:25:44] <Omni|Work> You're welcome. Trying to make sure nobody breaks Jenkins after I'm gone tomorrow by updating cppunit. I modified the xsd in place.  :-)
[00:26:57] <Omni|Work> Implies wild and crazy thinking based on spurious or highly-suspect logic.
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[00:33:04] <ahhughes> hey... what do I need to delete so it appears that the job has never had a single build?
[00:33:25] <ahhughes> if I delete build #5  the next build is still called #6
[00:33:56] <ahhughes> so builds go 1,2,3,4,6
[00:35:01] <RSchulzB> Is there a variant on $BUILD_URL/console that is not truncated at the beginning?
[00:36:21] <RSchulzB> abayer: By the way, the console reports the range of Git commit hashes that are new since the previous run of the job, but the XML output has only the terminal end of that range, the most recent commit hash.
[00:36:33] <statlor> ahhughes: checking
[00:36:39] <RSchulzB> For my purposes, I need the range, so I want to extract it from the console.
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[00:37:01] <hare_brain> RSchulzB: /consoleFull
[00:37:11] <RSchulzB> Thank you!
[00:37:48] <ahhughes> I thik statlor I just delete ./builds/**  and ./modules/** and ./nextBuildNumber ?
[00:39:12] <RSchulzB> consoleFull is the same as console.
[00:39:17] <ahhughes> but I am not sure where the build number and the build YYYY-MM-.... relationship is... I might break something here.
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[00:40:48] <RSchulzB> hare_brain: How come I'm seeing $BUILD_URL/console and BUILD_URL/consoleFull as the same? In both cases, the top part of the job output is gone.
[00:40:48] <hare_brain> Then maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're asking for? /console truncates the top of the log and gives you a link to the full console log. /consoleFull goes straight to the full log, without that link. That's how it's working for me.
[00:40:57] <Omni|Work> I want to skip build numbers because I'm converting over from CruiseControl and want to preserve build numbers.
[00:41:16] <RSchulzB> I want to see all the output produced during the run of the job.
[00:41:18] <edorian> you cold delete the jobs and use the http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Next+Build+Number+Plugin plugins
[00:41:38] <RSchulzB> There's a link at the top, .../consoleText
[00:42:00] <RSchulzB> Yeah, $BUILD_URL/consoleText is what I want.,
[00:42:19] <hare_brain> consoleText is the raw log.
[00:42:32] <hare_brain> consoleFull should give you the same thing, but annotated.
[00:42:48] <RSchulzB> But it doesn't.
[00:43:11] <hare_brain> Interesting. What version are you on?
[00:44:57] <statlor> great I am locked out of my main build box by AD
[00:44:58] <RSchulzB> 1.386
[00:45:05] <hare_brain> For example, I see different things from these two URLs:
[00:45:05] <hare_brain> http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/view/Hudson%20core/job/jenkins_main_trunk/480/console
[00:45:06] <hare_brain> http://ci.jenkins-ci.org/view/Hudson%20core/job/jenkins_main_trunk/480/consoleFull
[00:45:24] <RSchulzB> It has to be long enough, presumably.
[00:45:26] <statlor> ahhughes: I'd test your theory myself, but my guess is you're right
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[00:46:08] <statlor> you can do that and then "Reload Configuration from Disk" from the main manage .. jenkins.. menu
[00:46:45] <statlor> afk
[00:46:51] <ahhughes> ahhh, I just restarted the appserver to refresh the config....
[00:48:53] <ahhughes> statlor, it worked :)
[00:49:07] <ahhughes> thanks heaps
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[00:50:23] <ahhughes> I must say... Im not sure how the trend graphs are drawn for findbugs/pmd..... but failed builds appear as "0" figures on the graph... would be better if they did not appear at all.
[00:51:30] <ahhughes> its perfectly reasonable to "sample" and graph data at  1,2,3,6,8,10 and only plot those points without plotting 4,5,7,9 as "0"
[00:51:35] <statlor> hey you figured it out :)
[00:52:23] <statlor> but yeah the reload config button is nice to keep from having to stop/start service
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[00:52:55] <statlor> usually, what you think might happen in jenkins when you start fiddling with files is what actually happens
[00:53:08] <statlor> kind of nice/unexpected these days
[00:55:32] <statlor> we may want to remove the last two comments from the main wiki page.. one of them is about sex toys
[00:56:58] <statlor> actually there's been several since Dec 20
[01:04:12] <ahhughes> hey kohsuke - can I make a comment on this... http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Upgrading+from+Hudson+to+Jenkins  can you make a special mention about if HUDSON_HOME still works or is this now JENKINS_HOME or does both work?
[01:04:36] <kohsuke> Good idea
[01:04:40] <kohsuke> Yes, HUDSON_HOME works, too
[01:05:24] <ahhughes> yeah.. thats in there.. but I can't see JENKINS_HOME :)
[01:05:39] <ahhughes> and if one takes preference e.t.c.
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[01:06:41] <mindless> statlor: comments removed, user locked, thx
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[01:10:20] <kohsuke> ahhughes: done
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[01:13:01] <statlor> hm, is there a mailing list post that explains what jira/confluence/etc credentials should work/not work after the transition?
[01:14:41] <mindless> kohsuke: when you get a chance, can you update the TODO wiki page? I see the 2nd bullet is done
[01:14:56] <kohsuke> Will do.
[01:15:33] <kohsuke> statlor: I'm pretty sure I posted, but http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/User+Account+on+Jenkins is probably better
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[01:18:18] <statlor> perfect, thanks
[01:19:45] <statlor> Perhaps I can help any with boring but exigent documentation needs. I'm a stickler for grammar, etc.
[01:19:57] <statlor> sigh.. help with any
[01:20:08] <statlor> what I get for going back and changing the wording on a line
[01:20:33] <kohsuke> Yes, please help us improve documentation
[01:20:40] <kohsuke> It's a great contribution to the project.
[01:21:21] <statlor> I'm on it. Hey.. can I take this opportunity to switch from statlor to statler? statlor is annoying
[01:21:40] <statlor> I realize this means you have to update something to change the owner of the AccuRev plugin
[01:21:53] <kohsuke> Sure thing. Just get another account
[01:21:57] <statlor> java.net already had a statler, but I'm assuming I don't have that problem anymore.
[01:22:12] <statlor> Hey.. Statler is kind of a butler sounding name :)
[01:22:49] <statlor> Wait, that was pretentious. Nevermind.
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[01:41:23] <ahhughes> hmmm Im concerned... when I look at my hudson job's hg clone I can see that the latest revision has been pulled onto the clone. But Hudson hasn't detected this as an scm change... nor has it updated the workingcopy. I definately have the right branchname too.
[01:41:33] <ahhughes> ahhhh, jenkins!!! my bad ;)
[01:43:23] <statlor> I thought you were saying Hudson had pulled in Jenkins' changes for 1.396 or something
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[01:44:17] <statlor> haha I like the "Fixed a trademark bug..." entry in the changelog
[01:45:34] <ahhughes> hmmm. I guess I can summarise this by looking at the hg clone... "workspace" which has pulled down changes.. but it DEFINATELY has not updated the working set. weird.
[01:45:37] <statlor> and yes, it should be filed as a major enhancement.
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[01:47:42] <statlor> hmm I'm out of my bailiwick on Hg. I maintain another SCM plugin (AccuRev).
[01:48:36] <statlor> obscure but enterprisey
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[02:04:09] <statlor> kohsuke: just sent you an email (confidential for now) :)
[02:04:13] <arex\> Does anyone know what this build error could mean? http://pastie.org/1526872
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[02:04:50] <arex\> I'm using Hudson (Jenikns) with Phing
[02:05:13] <arex\> Jenkins*
[02:05:16] <statlor> that's weird, it's like it left the command itself off
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[02:05:45] <statlor> arex\: so this is a freestyle job? what version of J/H?
[02:06:08] <arex\> statlor: Yes it is. Hudson ver. 1.395
[02:07:49] <mwhudson> can a jenkins slave cause arbitrary code to be executed on the master?
[02:08:04] <nairb774> yes
[02:08:35] <mwhudson> hm
[02:08:38] <statlor> and your build step is invoke ant?
[02:08:53] <statlor> is this a new setup? perhaps you don't have an ant install configured?
[02:08:58] <mwhudson> nairb774: and this is a fundamental thing, or something that could be changed with sufficient motivation?
[02:09:39] <arex\> statlor: do I need ant?
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[02:10:03] <nairb774> I think with enough fixes it might be possible - though it might require breaking passivity
[02:10:05] <statlor> if you want to run ant as a build step, yes
[02:10:31] <mwhudson> nairb774: passivity?
[02:10:42] <mwhudson> i'm not well up on hudson/jenkins jargon :)
[02:10:49] <statlor> when you add a build step and pick "Invoke Ant", what options do you have available in the Ant Version drop-down ?
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[02:11:23] <nairb774> Plugins are normally written against some version of code and it is assumed that you can upgrade core without having to upgrade plugins
[02:11:26] <arex\> statlor: the only build step i have is "Invote phing targets"
[02:11:26] <statlor> are you trying to automate an ant build? what are you trying to automate? :)
[02:11:33] <arex\> Invoke*
[02:11:34] <statlor> ohh
[02:11:38] <nairb774> to a limit obviously, but that is the idea at least
[02:11:51] <statlor> sorry I didn't realize phing is a custom builder
[02:11:59] <statlor> afk a moment..
[02:12:03] <arex\> :|
[02:12:08] <mwhudson> nairb774: ah, ok
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[02:13:09] <nairb774> I am not an expert - I just like to pretend to be one though :D
[02:14:51] <arex\> It looks like my job doesn't build if there are no changes to SVN. How can I force a rebuild anyway?
[02:15:23] <arex\> oh nvm, i think it did :P
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[02:20:08] <statlor> should be a build now button
[02:20:40] <statlor> ok so phing is a php project builder that's based on ant
[02:20:52] <statlor> that's why it uses build.xml
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[02:22:26] <lifeless> oh hai old friends
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[02:23:07] <lifeless> abayer: does the bot that does + have different rules for here and #hudson ?
[02:23:33] <arex\> statlor: I have pretty much configured it like it says here too http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Phing+Plugin (only different dirs)
[02:23:52] <statlor> yeah looking at that now
[02:24:37] <arex\> im not sure how to track down this error
[02:25:01] <kohsuke> You mean http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Phing+Plugin :-) ?
[02:25:45] <arex\> ooh
[02:26:05] <statlor> so you know on this box that phing already works outside jenkins?
[02:26:40] <arex\> kohsuke: I saw your talk on (then) Hudson on the Interwebs yesterday. It got me all excited.
[02:26:46] <arex\> So now here I am
[02:26:51] <statlor> it uses ant behind the scenes, so I'm not sure if it relies on ant being configured in hudson is required
[02:27:01] <arex\> statlor: well, no :( I'll check that out.
[02:27:05] <statlor> sigh, I ran two thoughts together
[02:27:13] <statlor> if it runs from the cmd line, it should run in jenkins
[02:27:30] <statlor> when you created a new job, was there a phing job type, or did you pick freestyle?
[02:27:55] <arex\> statlor: freestyle
[02:28:11] <statlor> yeah, you probably need ant installed :) it's easy though
[02:28:22] <statlor> I thought it might be packed with phing was the thing
[02:28:36] <arex\> apt-get install ant and configure it in hudson i guess
[02:28:48] <statlor> nono, hudson will auto-install
[02:28:51] <arex\> oh, cool
[02:28:55] <arex\> was just gonna check for that :P
[02:29:06] <statlor> go to Hudson->Manage Hudson
[02:29:14] <arex\> yes
[02:29:15] <arex\> got it
[02:29:20] <statlor> Configure System
[02:29:24] <statlor> then find the Ant section
[02:29:30] <statlor> hit the Add Ant button
[02:29:49] <statlor> pick a version and there's a checkbox for Install automatically
[02:30:02] <statlor> not sure which version of ant you need, phing will dictate that
[02:30:15] <statlor> once it installs, that may be enough to get it working
[02:30:35] <statlor> if not, there may be a Phing section in this same config page, that tells it which underlying ant version to use
[02:30:51] <statlor> (I'm kind of making this up since I don't have/use phing)
[02:31:03] <statlor> pretty standard jenkins behavior though
[02:32:05] <kohsuke> jenkins-admin: help
[02:32:05] <jenkins-admin> See http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/IRC+Bot
[02:32:11] <kohsuke> JENKINS-123
[02:32:40] <arex\> statlor: I doesn't look like Phing needs Ant though. I'm reading on their homepage.
[02:32:40] <kohsuke> jenkins-admin: version
[02:33:18] <jieryn-w> anything on stderr?
[02:33:46] <arex\> Just checked that Phing works on the command line: http://pastie.org/1526929
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[02:34:04] <kohsuke> jenkins-admin: version
[02:34:12] <kohsuke> JENKINS-123
[02:34:14] <nairb774> Should references to java.net usernames be updated to jenkins-ci.org usernames in wiki docs?
[02:34:32] <kohsuke> nairb774: yes, please
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[02:34:57] <arex\> Here is the build error console log http://pastie.org/1526872
[02:36:39] <statlor> yeah it's lost what the cmd line for phing is
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[02:37:05] <arex\> but i can't configure that anywhere :o
[02:37:08] <arex\> weird
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[02:37:19] <kohsuke> JENKINS-123
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[02:39:41] <statlor> so you ran it from the cmd line as arex1337
[02:39:41] <statlor> is hudson also running as that user?
[02:39:41] <statlor> it may be that phing is in your PATH with your login, but not the jenkins user
[02:39:55] <statlor> my DSL bounced.. what was the last thing I said?
[02:40:00] <statlor> or am I still here even
[02:40:07] <arex\> it all got here just now :P
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[02:42:14] <arex\> statlor: you seem to be correct. hudson is running hudson :)
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[02:44:39] <statlor> make sure you can run phing from cmd line as that user :)
[02:44:47] <statlor> hopefully that is all it is
[02:44:54] <kohsuke> sorry for one more test ... JENKINS-123
[02:45:31] * jieryn-w kicks jenkins-admin about the knees
[02:45:43] <kohsuke> I've fixed the problem
[02:45:49] <jieryn-w> JENKINS-1
[02:45:51] <kohsuke> I'm just making the few final touch up
[02:45:54] <jieryn-w> oh :)
[02:47:12] <kohsuke> how about now? JENKINS-1
[02:47:13] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-1:Ability to push the build results to another Hudson (Resolved) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/1
[02:47:17] <kohsuke> Attaboy
[02:47:23] <kohsuke> And it's not smarter. Look. JENKINS-1
[02:47:25] <arex\> statlor: any idea how i can do that? phing is in /usr/bin/ and I don't know how to switch to the hudson user
[02:47:32] <kohsuke> It won't respond the same issue repeatedly!
[02:47:42] <kohsuke> not -> now
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[02:47:50] <jieryn-w> what's his cache timeout?
[02:47:56] <jieryn-w> or, whatever he's doing to not spam us
[02:47:57] <kohsuke> 1 min
[02:48:01] <jieryn-w> +1
[02:48:03] <jieryn-w> nice one
[02:48:03] <nairb774> cool
[02:49:14] <statlor> neat!
[02:49:51] <statlor> hm arex you have no access to the hudson user?
[02:50:13] <statlor> well if it's in /usr/bin, seems like that wouldn't be missed
[02:52:03] <jieryn-w> jenkins-admin: fork jieryn/console-column-plugin on github
[02:52:11] <jenkins-admin> Created https://github.com/jenkinsci/console-column-plugin
[02:52:37] <jieryn-w> jenkins-admin: create console-column in the issue tracker for jieryn
[02:52:37] <jenkins-admin> Adding a new subcomponent console-column to the bug tracker, owned by jieryn
[02:52:39] <jenkins-admin> Failed to create a new component: null
[02:53:11] <statlor> shoot well I may have to download phing myself now to try and figure this out
[02:53:26] <statlor> my next step would be trying to run phing from the cmd line as the hudson user
[02:53:46] <statlor> override.. wife just called supper.. afk
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[02:53:55] <jieryn-w> nice job, kk
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[02:56:36] <arex\> statlor: It works to run phing as the hudson user http://pastie.org/1526984
[02:56:57] <arex\> statlor: It would seem like the problem is that hudson (or the plugin) forgets to include the command 'phing'?
[02:57:07] <arex\> Original error: http://pastie.org/1526872
[03:00:59] <statlor> ok.. do have to run for a bit.. wife just called me again. Later I'll try installing phing myself
[03:01:04] <statlor> afk
[03:01:06] <arex\> I might have to execute a shell command instead of using the plugin
[03:01:09] <arex\> statlor: cool. thanks
[03:01:16] <statlor> that should work
[03:01:32] <arex\> i would think the plugin provides some cool functionality though
[03:01:36] <statlor> not sure what the specific target buys you other than some options built into the gui
[03:01:42] <statlor> ok afk for real
[03:02:16] <arex\> :D
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[03:06:45] <jieryn-w> i'm kind of disappointed in jira's dashboards for watched/voted
[03:06:59] <jieryn-w> it seems natural that they should sort returned results by # of watches/votes
[03:07:01] <jieryn-w> but it doesn't :)
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[03:10:43] <jieryn-w> ah, it's only my voted and my watched
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[03:25:18] <mwhudson> is the fact that my fresh jenkins install appears to have no plugins available to be installed related to the whole s/hudson/jenkins/ thing?
[03:26:06] <abayer> mwhudson: last time someone mentioned seeing that, it turned out their firewall/javascript whitelist/etc wasn't allowing access to the new update center URL at updates.jenkins-ci.org.
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[03:27:20] <mwhudson> mm, doesn't seem to be that
[03:27:36] <abayer> Can you get to updates.jenkins-ci.org/update-center.json?
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[03:28:33] <mwhudson> abayer: ah ok, i just hadn't given the instance time to update itself
[03:28:38] <mwhudson> it's all there now
[03:28:41] <abayer> that'd do it. =)
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[03:32:28] <statlor> it's a huge list!
[03:33:23] <statlor> so big it broke winstone's ability to serve it a while back
[03:33:30] <abayer> heheheh
[03:33:37] <abayer> And it was a lot smaller then that is now.
[03:33:40] <abayer> then than
[03:33:43] <abayer> Stupid English.
[03:34:02] * statlor boggles
[03:34:16] <abayer> So many plugins!
[03:34:36] <abayer> the update center JSON is 400k now.
[03:34:43] <statlor> wowo
[03:35:14] <statlor> just think if it was xml it'd be like 40 megs
[03:35:44] * statlor hyperbolees
[03:36:39] <arex\> lol
[03:37:18] <statlor> ok I've got to afk again and help get kids ready for bed.. a delicate balance between open source and marriage.
[03:37:55] <arex\> Yes, it usually is either-or :D
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[03:56:28] <mwalling> https://github.com/jenkinsci/cifs-plugin.git gives a 503
[03:56:32] <mwalling> er
[03:56:47] <mwalling> fsck, copy and past doesnt transverse screen sharing
[03:57:10] <evilchili> edit => send clipboard
[03:57:16] <jieryn-w> ANNOUNCE: Console Columns Plugin, v1.0, released http://jenkinsci.github.com/console-column-plugin/
[03:57:36] <jieryn-w> exploiting kohsuke's skin
[03:57:41] <jieryn-w> pretty sweet
[03:57:58] <mwalling> evilchili: <3!
[03:58:04] <mwalling> http://javadoc.jenkins-ci.org/byShortName/hudson.tasks.Mailer gives a 503
[03:58:18] <abayer> Email the list. =)
[03:58:20] <mwalling> evilchili: i just reattached screen from my laptop
[03:58:49] <mwalling> abayer: "open a helppoint ticket"
[03:59:04] <abayer> Hey, kohsuke's the one to fix it and he's AFK. =)
[04:00:14] <jieryn-w> did that ever work??
[04:04:26] <mwalling> idk
[04:04:37] <mwalling> but i'm trying to figure out how plugins store data
[04:06:15] <mwalling> JENKINS-8678 is what i'm trying to work through
[04:06:17] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8678:CIFS Plugin only seems to persist one share (In Progress) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8678
[04:06:21] <arex\> holy crap, checkstyle has been running for 30 minutes now, this isn't very agile :D
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[04:11:08] <statlor> hm perhaps someone is bouncing jira/stuff
[04:11:45] <statlor> getting a 503
[04:11:50] <statlor> for /account
[04:12:34] <lifeless> rtyler: who runs the bot in here?
[04:14:37] <rtyler> jenkins-admin?
[04:17:17] <lifeless> rtyler: yeah, I used to have a committer +, in #hudson
[04:17:29] <lifeless> I'm not sure who to poke about that here.
[04:18:04] <jieryn-w> i can do it
[04:18:41] <rtyler> lifeless: rejoin
[04:18:43] <jieryn-w> lifeless: /wc ; /j
[04:18:48] <rtyler> heh
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[04:18:55] <lifeless> thanks
[04:18:55] <mwalling> lifeless: /cycle
[04:19:09] <jieryn-w> mwalling++
[04:19:12] <rtyler> jieryn-w: I never did figure out a way to get chanserv to dump all the flags for users on #jenkins
[04:19:14] <jieryn-w> never knew that irc command
[04:19:15] <rtyler> er, #hudson
[04:19:28] <mwalling> jieryn-w: i'm a netop, i know these things
[04:19:31] <mwalling> :)
[04:19:34] * jieryn-w kowtows
[04:19:43] <mwalling> i can also akill spammers like an ace
[04:19:45] <jieryn-w> you should get us jenkins cloaks, then
[04:19:50] <mwalling> not here, oftc
[04:19:54] <rtyler> he's an OFTC elitist
[04:20:02] <jieryn-w> i hate that net :)
[04:20:08] <mwalling> jieryn-w: whyfor? :(
[04:20:11] <jieryn-w> i only go to that side of the tracks for libvirt issues
[04:20:20] <jieryn-w> no register, no cloaks!
[04:20:28] <mwalling> no register?
[04:20:35] <jieryn-w> maybe it's codehaus? i dunno
[04:20:38] <jieryn-w> i forget
[04:20:45] <mwalling> codehaus has no services
[04:20:53] <mwalling> oftc has services. i have patches in them
[04:22:06] <jieryn-w> shit, kk's webstart just infinite looped my chromium
[04:22:09] <jieryn-w> had to kill -9 it
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[04:30:58] <arex\> just got my first checkstyle report up in hudson
[04:31:07] <arex\> very satisfying, EVEN though the results weren't :D
[04:31:12] <rtyler> heh, congrats
[04:32:58] <jieryn-w> jenkins' jira not updated in over a year: http://issues.jenkins-ci.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=status+!%3D+closed+and+updated+%3C+%22-52w%22
[04:33:04] <jieryn-w> 4152 matches :-/
[04:33:14] <jieryn-w> status != closed
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[04:49:39] <cowboyd> kohsuke: I was successfully able to register a custom XStream converter to marshal and unmarshal ruby objects, but I'm struggling with the configuration templates. For example, I can use my config.jelly to create an object, but the editting fails because there's no obvious way to tell config.jelly about my object's fields.
[04:51:31] <cowboyd> I'm still a bit murky on how the config form usage differs betwen object creation and object editting.
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[04:57:28] <statlor> arex\: did you make it past the phing launch problem?
[04:57:48] <arex\> statlor: yes, i just ordered a shell command instead and skipped the plugin
[05:02:38] <arex\> statlor: it seems like my checkstyle thing takes a very long time - not very agile - i would like a job without checkstyle to run every 5 minutes, and a job with run once every midnight.. i just copy the first job, enable checkstyle and reschedule?
[05:06:16] <statlor> correct
[05:06:31] <statlor> that does seem long for checkstyle..
[05:12:31] <rtyler> kohsuke: I'll post about the governance meeting tonight
[05:12:41] <kohsuke> Thanks
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[05:17:03] <cowboyd> I'm about to pack it in for the night. anybody have any thoughts re: ^^ ?
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[05:19:14] <nparry> Does one need to have submitted a CLA to submit pull requests for core?
[05:19:54] <nparry> Or is all of that still up in the air at this point...
[05:20:31] <abayer> I think it's fine to submit patches without a CLA - kohsuke?
[05:20:55] <kohsuke> That's my understanding as well
[05:21:03] <kohsuke> But then, one has to wonder where the boundary is.
[05:21:22] <kohsuke> So we might have to ask you for CLA anyway
[05:21:48] <nparry> not a problem, I wasn't sure if that was in place yet or not
[05:22:08] <nparry> I'll send a pull req and submit the paperwork when needed :-)
[05:22:14] <kohsuke> thanks
[05:24:36] <jieryn-w> abayer: welcome back - have you heard anything about the osuosl CI server thing?
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[05:28:12] <evilchili> I don't suppose there's any way to restrict where a project can be run based on a build parameter?
[05:31:50] <arex\> statlor: it hasn't completed yet... :o
[05:31:57] <arex\> cpu is ~100% though
[05:32:29] <arex\> when i didn't do it recursively it went fast and worked quite well
[05:32:48] <jieryn-w> jenkins-admin: create console-column in the bug database for jieryn
[05:32:48] <jenkins-admin> Adding a new subcomponent console-column to the bug tracker, owned by jieryn
[05:32:50] <jenkins-admin> Failed to create a new component: null
[05:33:12] <jieryn-w> kohsuke: hm, component creation is not working
[05:35:36] <arex\> statlor: apparantly it went into an infinite loop when it got to jquery.js :D told it to only do *.php and it was over in 5 seconds :P
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[05:45:37] <statlor> yikes jquery ok. yeah I bet the minified version of jquery would make checkstyle lose its faculties
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[05:46:42] <arex\> hehe exactly
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[05:46:59] <arex\> now i got "Duplicate Code", "Checkstyle Warnings" and "JDepend" reports on my builds
[05:47:01] <arex\> very awesome
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[05:48:56] <rtyler> kohsuke: I'll check into the meetingbot that we use in openSUSE and see what I can do about bringing it online
[05:49:05] <rtyler> kohsuke: do you guys have an agenda set?
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[05:56:43] <statlor> may already know this.. main Meet Jenkins page has an example screenshot that is still Hudson
[05:57:31] <statlor> yeah arex awesome!
[05:57:38] <statlor> it looks even cooler over time
[05:57:54] <arex\> statlor: :D now im trying to get phpunit to work
[05:58:03] <statlor> I really need to get sonar going.. unfortunately it won't work with my SCM :/
[06:00:06] <statlor> you may want to see if you can get sonar with php plugin working as well
[06:00:09] <statlor> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/SONAR/PHP+Plugin
[06:00:24] <statlor> really cool displays
[06:01:25] <statlor> of course, there is a sonar plugin for jenkins, but there's an everything plugin for jenkins
[06:01:33] <statlor> http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Sonar+plugin
[06:02:01] <arex\> cool will look into it!
[06:02:26] <statlor> it's like project quality metrics on crack
[06:02:46] <statlor> or well, something like crack but without the life-ruining aspects
[06:03:14] <arex\> lol
[06:03:31] <arex\> are you into php?
[06:03:38] <statlor> no, I'm into crack
[06:03:46] <statlor> no seriously, I'm a java guy
[06:03:56] <statlor> I've done enough php to be dangerous
[06:04:21] <arex\> :)
[06:04:26] <statlor> but like, php 4.. I'm old.
[06:04:39] <rtyler> kohsuke: post is going live tomorrow at 1400UTC
[06:04:52] <kohsuke> thanks
[06:05:14] <rtyler> kohsuke: also setting this up: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot
[06:06:03] <jieryn-w> that is awesome
[06:06:43] <rtyler> we'll be like a real growned up open source project!
[06:06:49] <uzilan> guys did u ever consider adding person images in Jenkins? That way, when a job breaks, u can see the culprit's face...
[06:07:10] <rtyler> uzilan: I find blaming somebody personally is never good for team morale
[06:07:10] <rtyler> :P
[06:08:41] <uzilan> true, but there are other thing to do with it - the CI game could show faces of the leaders maybe
[06:09:34] <rtyler> uzilan: I think MikeRooney was working on a gravatar plugin at one point
[06:09:38] <rtyler> don't know what happened to him
[06:09:40] <rtyler> or the plugin
[06:09:51] <uzilan> ah cool
[06:09:53] <rtyler> (his previous employer went under and he had to get a real job, that much I know)
[06:10:04] <evilchili> stupid real jobs.
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[06:13:00] <statlor> real jobs suck! sigh
[06:13:17] <statlor> don't tell my employer
[06:13:23] <uzilan> speaking of which, I have to go to mine :(
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[06:17:09] <rtyler> kohsuke: I'm also going to post my downloads post tomorrow
[06:18:19] <pjz> btw, I'm glad to see build instructions and etc on the jenkins wiki now
[06:18:34] <pjz> clears up questionss of where the canonical repos are, etc.
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[08:07:56] <Aetzel> Hi tried to replace hudson by jenkins
[08:08:30] <Aetzel> but now I can't use jnlp-slave-agents anymore
[08:09:04] <Aetzel> error-message is http://svn:8880/hudson/jnlpJars/remoting.jar
[08:09:04] <Aetzel> but the context is jenkins, not hudson
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[08:30:22] <arex\> Any ideas why the console output contains these weird characters, and how I can fix it? http://pastie.org/1527475
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[08:53:03] <Squee-D> Well done on the transition gentlemen
[08:53:18] <kohsuke> Thanks!
[08:54:10] <Squee-D> I went into hospital a Hudson user, came out a Jenkins user. Strange operation really :P
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[08:54:56] <Squee-D> omg pidgen has the worst emoticons
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[09:00:20] <Squee-D> I miss MIRC :/
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[09:22:12] <arex\> blah
[09:22:20] <arex\> phpunit in jenkins is hard
[09:22:36] <dotsev1> :-)
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[09:46:24] <foertel> g'mornin
[09:49:38] <dotsev1> moinmoin :-)
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[09:55:15] <arex\> When you do shell commands, do they get run as the hudson-user?
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[10:23:43] <arex\> well, fuck me, wasted 5 hours because i had to write "${env.WORKSPACE}/tests/*" instead of "${env.WORKSPACE}/tests" when using phpunit
[10:27:11] <foertel> uhm, i don't want to fuck you ?
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[10:36:09] <foertel> what the ? where is jenkins' config.xml in ubuntu?
[10:37:09] <foertel> ah damn
[10:37:14] <foertel> var lib jenkins
[10:37:21] <foertel> can't view folder content if not root
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[10:43:24] <akostadinov> foertel: seems like it is working correctly then
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[10:50:51] <alecx> Hello! On Hudson version 1.368 sending e-mails without authentification works. On v. 1.383 I get this error: http://jenkins.pastebin.com/9FP0u5xK Has this been fixed on current/later versions?
[10:53:47] <dotsev1> hmm i think sending mails to a mail-adress from the same domain works everywhere... (without authentication) :-)
[10:54:20] <dotsev1> but sending mails to a mail-adress from another domain should be blocked by the mail-server... it's not a hudson-bug (or feature :-D)
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[10:57:09] <alecx> dotsev1: thanks for the idea - it may be the problem that the 2 PCs are not in the same domain
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[11:09:10] <lacostej> some core developers out there to discuss the Proc class ?
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[11:10:37] <_W_> yay, finally found the log output for the irc plugin, probably the first place I should have checked, catalina.out
[11:18:00] <arex\> Any ideas why the console output contains these weird characters, and how I can fix it? http://pastie.org/1527475
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[11:26:02] <lacostej> arex\: those weird output come from ANSI colors for the terminal . there seems to be an option when using phing: -logger phing.listener.DefaultLogger
[11:26:12] <arex\> aaaah
[11:26:28] <lacostej> not sure if this is a real option (I just read that http://phing.info/trac/ticket/222)
[11:27:35] <lacostej> whatever you find out, might be interesting to add it to the Hudson phing page is there is one
[11:27:38] <lacostej> or create one :)
[11:28:15] <arex\> yes, it is in phing --help
[11:28:53] <arex\> phing -logger phing.listener.DefaultLogger -f $WORKSPACE/build.xml cleanup prepare style metrics duplicate tests deploy :D
[11:29:28] <arex\> (deploy doesn't do anything)
[11:29:34] <arex\> just finished setting up the other tools
[11:29:40] <arex\> pretty cool stuff
[11:30:04] <arex\> thanks lacostej btw
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[11:48:32] <foertel> is there a good tutorial on how to integrate gerrit with jenkins?
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[13:01:28] <lacostej> foertel: not that I know of
[13:01:48] <lacostej> lacostej: but if you do, feel free to share that in the wiki. I am interested :)
[13:02:03] <lacostej> oops that was for foertel of course
[13:02:11] <foertel> he he
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[13:02:28] <foertel> works for me ? will blog about but most likely in german
[13:08:00] <lacostej> Just create a page in the wiki with a link to your blog entry, someone might want to translate it later on
[13:08:19] <foertel> jeb
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[13:44:39] <aes> Anyone have a specimen of what xml reports from junit (or ...) are supposed to look like?
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[13:56:15] <drulli> aes: I think there is no DTD or schema available, you need to look into some examples...
[13:56:32] <aes> Right, so, do you have any?
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[13:57:17] <aes> That's what so bizarre, none of docs for any of the testing frameworks include a specimen of the generated reports...
[13:57:40] <drulli> Here some results from my plugins: http://www.faktorzehn.org:8081/job/Hudson%20Plug-ins%20%28Compile%29/ws/analysis-core/target/surefire-reports/TEST-hudson.plugins.analysis.core.BuildHistoryTest.xml
[13:58:07] <aes> Excellent! Thank you, that's perfect
[13:58:21] <drulli> And there is an proposal to change that (quite old): http://wiki.apache.org/ant/Proposals/EnhancedTestReports
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[13:59:52] <aes> Hm. I don't know enough to say anything sensible about that yet..
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[14:06:52] <aheritier> kohsuke: abayer : Do we have an idea about the future of :  http://issues.hudson-ci.org/browse/HUDSON ???
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[14:07:49] <aheritier> Existing HUDSON users will report issues in it ... (at least they'll be less work in Jenkins :-) )
[14:07:59] <aheritier> No bug ... No problem
[14:08:45] <dregin> :)
[14:09:18] <aheritier> Who is managing this instance ? Oracle I suppose ?
[14:10:09] <aheritier> Or we need to create a plugin in our Jira to automatically copy issues and updates from the other Hudson :-)
[14:11:44] <aheritier> That's I would like  that at least all plugins mainteners who want to manage their issues on issues.jenkins-ci.org ask to delete issues and components from issues.hudson-ci.org
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[14:43:24] <lacostej> does someone knows how to browse the JDK code online ? I need to troubleshoot a strange issue, and would love to look at the native code
[14:43:50] <lacostej> I can't find the code easily using the hg openjdk site
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[14:55:42] <lacostej> found it, It's called "manifest" in the hg world..
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[15:02:37] <mwalling> slide is going to hate me
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[15:09:13] <bnovc> purple JIRA :\
[15:10:11] <jieryn-w> the purple is growing on me :)
[15:11:38] * mwalling too
[15:11:58] <bnovc> my Hudson won't start this morning after the upgrade :(
[15:12:32] <bnovc> I think its because one of my slaves isn't connectable....
[15:12:54] <_W_> I just did a clean install from the debian package, and it solved some of my recurring problems from the old hudson instance
[15:13:10] <_W_> (and copied the jobs over)
[15:13:22] <bnovc> I am, unfortunately, in Windows :\
[15:15:52] <bnovc> this is quite problematic
[15:16:12] * bnovc thinks the UI should come up *while* connecting to the slaves
[15:17:37] <_W_> I thought it would come up /regardless/
[15:17:52] <_W_> I've certainly had slaves down before without problems
[15:20:20] <aheritier> KK launched a thread if you have a better proposal for colors :-)
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[15:21:08] <bnovc> _W_: I did too before this update
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[15:24:01] <bnovc> hm, there were two Hudsons running
[15:24:07] <bnovc> the Hudson as a Windows service thing is so broken
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[15:28:19] <_W_> linux is free :p
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[15:30:30] <jieryn-w> hrm
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[15:31:12] <jieryn-w> wb :)
[15:31:24] <olamy> hehe
[15:32:06] <bnovc> are unassigned issues looked at?
[15:32:37] <jieryn-w> the wheel that does the squeaking is the wheel that gets the grease
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[15:33:20] <larrys> or replaced first ;)
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[15:34:27] <bnovc> also, how do I uninstall a plugin... I installed a manually built version of a plugin and I want to go back to using the official one
[15:35:27] <larrys> remove the .hpi and directory from the plugins folder
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[15:35:45] <bnovc> :\
[15:35:46] <jieryn-w> installing through the usual means /pluginManager/available ?
[15:36:03] <larrys> or just install the "official" one, and it will overwrite it.
[15:36:12] <bnovc> the official one doesn't show up on the available list anymore
[15:36:26] <larrys> download the hpi, and use the advanced tab to upload it.
[15:36:40] <jieryn-w> you have http://updates.jenkins-ci.org/update-center.json listed ?
[15:37:15] <larrys> jieryn-w: it makes sense to not have the official one show, if you have installed another version of it. since they are in effect the "same" (just not code wise)
[15:37:28] <bnovc> I had hudson labs listed
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[15:38:00] <bnovc> ok I guess I'll just turn off husdon and delete the hpi. It would be pretty cool to have a remove button
[15:39:07] * bnovc bets this is going to break the configuration of his jobs
[15:40:05] <jieryn-w> JENKINS-3070
[15:40:08] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-3070:Uninstaller for plugins (Open) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/3070
[15:42:44] <bnovc> cool thanks, watching it
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[15:49:21] <zoobab> hi
[15:51:28] <zoobab> is there a special variable to download the artifacts from a project?
[15:51:51] <zoobab> like I have one project depending on the artifact of another one
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[15:52:09] <evilchili> zoobab: install the Copy Artifacts plugin
[15:52:34] <larrys> http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Copy+Artifact+Plugin
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[15:53:55] <aheritier> I was granted voice. I'm proud :-) Thx
[15:56:06] <jieryn-w> :)
[15:56:07] <bnovc> congratulations
[15:56:25] <aheritier> thx
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[16:19:36] <lacostej> hey guys, I've found out that we have a small bug duplicated in many places that might account for some of the strange issues the users are running into. JENKINS-8686 maybe the root cause for the most voted bug (wasn't what I though yesterday)
[16:19:37] <jenkins-admin> JENKINS-8686:IO stream copies are not done properly (Open) http://jenkins-ci.org/issue/8686
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[16:19:49] <lacostej> comments appreciated
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[16:27:50] <jieryn-w> rtyler: nice
[16:29:38] <jieryn-w> rtyler: maybe we should consider a donate to osl link on jenkins-ci ?
[16:29:48] <jieryn-w> or a /donate with links to donations for our supporters
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[17:22:23] <jieryn-w> ls
[17:24:09] <Kissaki> who wrote the last blog post?
[17:24:19] <Kissaki> rtyler,
[17:24:22] <Kissaki> wrong link
[17:24:30] <Kissaki> http://mirrors.xmision.com/ should be http://mirrors.xmission.com/ right?
[17:25:37] <Kissaki> is he really asleep?
[17:25:40] <Kissaki> can someone else fix it?
[17:25:42] <Kissaki> :)
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[17:40:04] <jieryn-w> they're all west coast people
[17:42:48] <bvakili> hi.  I'd like to submit an issue report and patch for the git plugin
[17:43:00] <bvakili> however, I don't know where the source repository is anymore :(
[17:43:10] <bvakili> can anyone help?
[17:43:27] <bvakili> I'd prefer to submit a valid patch
[17:43:51] <bvakili> the link on the old Hudson git plugin page no longer works either
[17:44:10] <jieryn-w> https://github.com/jenkinsci/git-plugin
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[17:51:32] <bvakili> jieryn-w: thanks!
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[17:55:07] <dregin> Is it possible to follow anorganization on github?
[17:55:48] <selckin> is there an org page with a follow button?
[17:56:00] <larrys> I don't see a follow button on org pages...
[17:56:05] <dregin> I can't see it on the jenkinsci page
[17:56:21] <dregin> nevermind so :)
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[18:04:15] <dpickett> how do I migrate from hudson to jenkins? My search-fu is weaksauce
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[18:08:19] <statlor> agh my brain is trained to join the old channel
[18:08:29] <statlor> thanks to whoever set up the redirect
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[18:11:14] <larrys> dpickett: http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Upgrading+from+Hudson+to+Jenkins
[18:11:24] <dpickett> larrys: thanks a ton
[18:11:52] <dpickett> oh ok just replace the war
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[18:19:18] <rtyler> Kissaki: noted
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[18:21:22] <jieryn-w> rtyler: can you please create a component named console-column in jira ?
[18:21:28] <jieryn-w> for me
[18:21:42] <rtyler> I don't think I have any admin access in JIRA
[18:21:48] <rtyler> our pal mindless might though
[18:22:01] <rtyler> or is that handled by jenkins-admin now?
[18:22:12] <jieryn-w> jenkins-admin has a bug or something
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[18:26:09] <mindless> jieryn-w: afaik, irc bot can still create it.. it just won't set auto-assign-to-lead
[18:27:33] <mindless> jenkins-admin: create console-column in the issue tracker for jieryn
[18:27:33] <jenkins-admin> Adding a new subcomponent console-column to the bug tracker, owned by jieryn
[18:27:37] <jenkins-admin> Failed to create a new component: null
[18:28:22] <jieryn-w> i did that last night, but console-column is not actually created
[18:28:28] <mindless> ya, ic
[18:28:40] <jieryn-w> maybe jenkins-admin is not auth'd
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[18:29:07] <mindless> ok, manually added
[18:30:33] <jieryn-w> ty
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[19:25:24] <rtyler> quieter today :)
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[19:39:16] <evilchili> doh
[19:39:31] <evilchili> old windows build slave refuses to start. event viewer says "Child process [2824 - javaw.exe -Xrs -jar "c:\jenkins\slave.jar" -tcp c:\jenkins\port.txt] terminated with 1"
[19:39:37] <rtyler> #startmeeting
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[19:47:49] <mwalling> rtyler: i could fix that (the quieter today) thing
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[19:52:30] <rtyler> #commands
[19:52:35] <rtyler> butlerbot: you are useless
[19:52:35] <butlerbot> rtyler: Error: "you" is not a valid command.
[19:52:39] * rtyler sighs
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[19:57:32] <dregin> :D
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[20:29:41] <jarlebh> Hi, can someone help me change my email in JIRA ?, I am trying to reset my password. I found that my java.net email address was really old
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[20:30:07] <rtyler> whoops
[20:30:11] <rtyler> I meant to stab ChanServ
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[20:32:45] <abayer> jarlebh: I believe you can do taht at jenkins-ci.org/account
[20:34:33] <jarlebh> yes, I tried that. But I guess the email i send to my old email that does not work anymore
[20:35:36] <abayer> Hmm - kohsuke's afk, but you might want to send an email to the users list with your username, java.net email address, and desired new email address - we can probably get that changed by hand.
[20:36:21] <jarlebh> ok, will it send the email to the java.net which then redirects to my real email ?. If so maybe it works tomorrow
[20:36:32] <abayer> Yes.
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[20:36:45] <jarlebh> ok, I will try again tomorrow then
[20:38:24] <jieryn-w> http://basementcoders.com/2011/02/episode-31-jenkins-amazon-elastic-beanstalk-and-ubb/
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[20:44:21] <rtyler> #startmeeting Disregard this test meeting
[20:44:22] <robobutler> Let the Jenkins meeting commence!
[20:44:22] *** robobutler changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Disregard this test meeting)"
[20:44:50] <jieryn-w> he better change it back the way it was
[20:44:55] <rtyler> patience
[20:45:05] <rtyler> #topic should we all freak out now?
[20:45:05] *** robobutler changes topic to "should we all freak out now? (Meeting topic: Disregard this test meeting)"
[20:45:20] <rtyler> I don't think we should, I have faith in robobutler :)
[20:45:31] <jieryn-w> #agreed that we should all freak out now
[20:45:38] <lacostej> hei guys, I have several pull request waiting, someone wants to review a few commits ?
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[20:45:50] <rtyler> #endmeeting
[20:45:50] *** robobutler changes topic to "Jenkins CI: http://jenkins-ci.org || Paste: http://jenkins.pastebin.com || Logs: http://echelog.matzon.dk/?jenkins || Twitter: http://twitter.com/jenkinsci || Committers should have voice"
[20:45:50] <robobutler> Meeting ended Fri Feb  4 19:40:58 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://www.jenkins-ci.org/meetings/ . (v 0.1.4)
[20:45:51] <robobutler> Minutes:        http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins/2011/jenkins.2011-02-04-19.39.html
[20:45:51] <robobutler> Minutes (text): http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins/2011/jenkins.2011-02-04-19.39.txt
[20:45:51] <robobutler> Log:            http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins/2011/jenkins.2011-02-04-19.39.log.html
[20:45:53] <abayer> lacostej: Lemme take a look - sorry, been running around. =)
[20:46:01] <rtyler> YUS
[20:46:05] <rtyler> it all works nicely
[20:46:22] <lacostej> abayer: don't worry :)
[20:46:25] <mwalling> except its a supybot
[20:46:25] <rtyler> jieryn-w: only the current chair can execute commands AFAIK
[20:46:31] <rtyler> so your #agreed didn't work
[20:46:42] * jieryn-w morphs into a chair
[20:46:49] <rtyler> heh
[20:47:01] <rtyler> mwalling: you are impossible to please
[20:47:08] <mwalling> rtyler: write it in node
[20:47:09] <abayer> I'm really looking forward to setting up automated pre-tested commit builds off of pull requests.
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[20:47:44] <mwalling> i want to do pretested builds based off reviewboard, alla the gerrit stuff
[20:48:05] <abayer> I'm going to be doing that here at the office within a couple months, I think.
[20:48:25] <mwalling> for reviewboard?
[20:48:29] <abayer> Yup.
[20:48:33] <abayer> That's my plan.
[20:48:40] <mwalling> i figured you were a gerrit person
[20:48:51] <abayer> By choice. But Cloudera's a reviewboard shop.
[20:49:01] <lacostej> abayer: is someone implementing this ?
[20:49:15] <jieryn-w> good lord this basementcoders thing is hard to listen to
[20:49:17] <lacostej> if you're curious, abayer, I have my own jenkins instance
[20:49:31] <lacostej> building my fork
[20:49:35] <abayer> lacostej: which part? The reviewboard pre-tested commits or the Github pull requests one? =)
[20:49:56] <mwalling> jieryn-w: bad audio quality?
[20:50:11] <lacostej> the github pull requests one
[20:50:16] <jieryn-w> no, the interviewers are morons
[20:50:28] <jieryn-w> i tried to listen to them before, and i get so frustrated
[20:50:39] <jieryn-w> the constant start/stops, jagged uhms,
[20:50:41] <abayer> lacostej: I haven't started yet, but I'm planning to work on it - it seems like it'd be a fairly awesome feature.
[20:50:52] <rtyler> jieryn-w: STOP INSULTING MY TEAM
[20:50:54] <mwalling> thats what turns me off about some of the change log interviews (yeah kenneth_reitz :P ) is the guests either have really bad audio quality + accents or really bad background noise
[20:51:09] <jieryn-w> maybe i'm critical because i help broadcast a monthly linux user group radio show??
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[20:51:23] <EmanueleZattin> Hello everybody
[20:51:33] <raimo_t> hello
[20:51:33] <jieryn-w> but these guys make amatuers a new low :)
[20:52:02] <rtyler> kohsuke: in the future we should hold the meetings a bit earlier methinks :P
[20:52:08] <rtyler> 11pm in .eu is a bit steep
[20:52:12] <abayer> rtyler: True.
[20:52:30] <abayer> But I was booked up 'til this afternoon, soooo.
[20:52:32] <EmanueleZattin> rtyler: I agree ;)
[20:52:50] <rtyler> abayer: yeah, I get it, just shouldn't make a habit of it :)
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[20:53:30] <rtyler> EmanueleZattin: we have users from Tokyo around to London and on to Israel, it's hard to make everybody happy :/
[20:53:35] * rtyler had to ship an awful lot of stickers
[20:53:42] <lacostej> abayer: regarding your comment on pull#29
[20:53:52] <mwalling> need new stickers
[20:53:58] <emanuelez> rtyler: yes i can imagine
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[20:54:49] <lacostej> abayer: not sure how to unit test the NPE. I can make an unit test, showing that the former method lacked setting the headers, (not sure if you guys have a test framework for javascript, I haven't looked into the test package yet)
[20:55:14] <lacostej> abayer: or I can make an integration test, it's a bit heavy I think.
[20:55:22] <abayer> Gotcha. Just thought I'd ask. I'm going to defer that one to kohsuke - I'm not comfortable enough in the code there.
[20:55:45] <lacostej> I can show you a screenshot of the firebug session that shows the problem :)
[20:56:10] <rtyler> abayer: did you and kohsuke come up with a loose agenda?
[20:56:16] <abayer> ...no.
[20:56:22] <rtyler> http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html#hints-on-how-to-run-an-effective-meeting
[20:56:28] * rtyler STFUs with suggestions
[20:56:59] <lacostej> rule #1: don't hold a meeting
[20:57:04] <lacostej> ;)
[20:57:35] <rtyler> IRC meetings are actually really productive IMHO
[20:57:42] <abayer> I've been a bit busy this week, so I honestly haven't thought about the meeting very much - dunno if kohsuke and/or hare_brain have anything in mind.
[20:57:42] <lacostej> I was just kidding
[20:57:43] <rtyler> they don't 100% distract you like meatspace meetings
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[21:00:23] <dregin> at least if someone starts going off on a tangent ya can just /kb em :P
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[21:04:51] <lacostej> abayer: not sure about github, but isn't there a way to get rid of the merge messages in git when merging into master ? Wouldn't that be interesting ? I don't mind when dealing with a complex feature branch, but for a bug fix it's not optimum
[21:05:09] <abayer> Yeah, I'm actually trying to figure that out as we speak.
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[21:10:29] <Kissaki> lacostej, abayer instead of merging you'll use rebase
[21:11:02] <Kissaki> pull --rebase (I think that's the command) will not do a merge after pulling but rebase
[21:11:45] <Kissaki> rebase = remember local changes, drop them, put in all the new commits, then re-apply the changes
[21:12:18] <abayer> Sweet, that looks right.
[21:12:53] <Kissaki> if it fails to reapply you can fix the conflicts and do a (I think the command is) rebase --continue
[21:13:11] <Kissaki> if you don't want to fix conflicts you can undo the whole process with rebase --abort then
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[21:18:40] <lacostej> Kissaki: I though it was a matter to enable/disable fast forward
[21:20:41] <lacostej> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2850369/why-uses-git-fast-forward-merging-per-default
[21:23:17] <lacostej> it's not critical, I just wonder how people want the history to look like for simple merges
[21:24:12] <lacostej> has anyone seen that bug ? http://coffeebreaks.virtual.vps-host.net:8082/job/jenkins-mvn3-lacostej-master/org.jenkins-ci.main$jenkins-test-harness/13/testReport/junit/hudson.util/FormFieldValidatorTest/testNegative/ Happened twice on my server today (I just set it up)
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[21:24:39] <Kissaki> fast forward
[21:24:39] <Kissaki> A fast-forward is a special type of merge where you have a revision and you are "merging" another branch's changes that happen to be a descendant of what you have.
[21:24:39] <Kissaki> In such these cases, you do not make a new merge commit but instead just update to his revision. This will happen frequently on a tracking branch of a remote repository.
[21:24:42] <Kissaki> https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitGlossary
[21:24:52] <Kissaki> so that won't keep your local commits
[21:25:04] <Kissaki> dunno if that was actually what you were talking about above
[21:25:19] <Kissaki> with or without local commits
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[21:29:51] <cowboyd> is there a way to create a build which is just a static set of parameters for a parameterized build?
[21:29:57] <emanuelez> lacostej: maybe we could setup some instructions about using git pull --rebase to avoid ugly loops in the git history
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[21:40:34] <Weltraumschaf> hi
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[21:43:15] <rtyler> wilkommen
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[21:43:29] <Weltraumschaf> hehe :)
[21:45:27] <Weltraumschaf> is it possible for resource http://localhost:8080/job/Test/changes to change or override a jelly file so that not ChangeLogSet.Entry.getMsg() is displayed in the changes list?
[21:45:43] <Weltraumschaf> i wat $cs.name instead
[21:46:35] <Weltraumschaf> i guess that this site comes from jenkins not from my scm plugin. yet.
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[21:47:25] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: the SCM plugin defines the changes jelly files
[21:48:27] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: Jenkins will simply call the parser defined in the SCM plugin to get the changelog info and then use the jelly files provided by the SCM plugin to render them
[21:48:49] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: which SCM plugin are you using?
[21:49:55] <mindless> abayer / kohsuke: is it expected that from now on plugins should have scm info in the pom, or will we be able to return to a state where it comes from parent?
[21:50:18] <abayer> I think that's always going to be mandatory - since they're always going to be in a different repo than their parent.
[21:50:27] <mindless> k
[21:51:19] <Weltraumschaf> emanuelez: i write a own SCM plugin for darcs. i just created a changes.jelly. i try if i can see it.
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[21:51:59] <Weltraumschaf> i just looked how the bazaar scm plug was made. but they only use a digest.jelly and a index.jelly for the ChangeSetList
[21:52:58] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: what is your changes.jelly associated to?
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[21:53:52] <Weltraumschaf> no plan, sorry. i just work with stapler and jelly for some days now. there is some 'magic' which works.
[21:54:06] <Weltraumschaf> want u see code?
[21:54:15] <rtyler> j
[21:54:17] <rtyler> whoops
[21:54:33] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: the standard way to do it is with index.jelly and digest.jelly
[21:55:06] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Change+log
[21:56:07] <Weltraumschaf> yes. i read that. that works perfekt. but i search a way to affect the display of the upper level change view: /job/PROJECT/changes
[21:57:59] <Weltraumschaf> from stapler i know it is a 'linkage' of uris to a stapler object. which (i guess' have jelly files, right?
[21:59:19] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: hmmm... u caught me out of guard there... I write an SCM plugin too, but I never considered that :D
[22:02:39] <Weltraumschaf> for what scmdo you write?
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[22:05:13] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: an alternative Synergy plugin, adapted for the crazy use my company does of it :)
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[22:06:12] <Weltraumschaf> never heared of it. i write for darcs. some times i think we're the only company using it... ther's no integration of it in any tool.
[22:06:15] <Weltraumschaf> mostly
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[22:07:24] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: well, if your company decides to use Synergy instead... then it's time to looks for a new job. It's the worst SCM ever :P
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[22:09:04] <lacostej> emanuelez: worse than SourceSafe ?
[22:09:27] <emanuelez> lacostej: WAY worse than SourceSafe :(
[22:09:29] <Weltraumschaf> yea, sourcesafe! i just would mention it
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[22:09:48] <Weltraumschaf> is it that ibm thing martin fowler rants about?
[22:10:30] <emanuelez> Synergy is from IBM, yes, which acquired Telelogic
[22:11:03] <Weltraumschaf> darcs is cool. its a little bit slow. but very nice. its patch based (on the theory of patches) and its distributed like git.
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[22:11:11] <Weltraumschaf> but nobody knows it *lol*
[22:11:34] <Weltraumschaf> the haskell guys uses it heavy
[22:11:46] <lacostej> who is responsible of jenkins on jenkins ?
[22:11:57] <lacostej> responsible "for"
[22:12:14] <rtyler> some group of jerks
[22:12:17] <rtyler> <_<
[22:12:28] <abayer> heehee
[22:12:30] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: yes I'm reading about it. looks interesting. I love git for its speed and its ideas
[22:12:32] <Weltraumschaf> kohsuke? he inveted it
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[22:14:10] <Weltraumschaf> emanuelez: first use of darcs is wiered *g* every thing is a patch and you can pull/push them in any order, unless they depend. makes nice cherypicking possible
[22:14:42] <emanuelez> Weltraumschaf: sweet
[22:16:31] <Weltraumschaf> but has pitfalls. you can make a lot of foobar on depencnecies and wrong pull orders. especially when u're used to a system like svn
[22:17:14] <Weltraumschaf> dpkg: considering removing hudson in favour of jenkins ...
[22:17:14] <Weltraumschaf> dpkg: yes, will remove hudson in favour of jenkins.
[22:17:17] <Weltraumschaf> LOL!
[22:17:21] <Weltraumschaf> yes...!
[22:19:29] <mwalling> Weltraumschaf: i assume that was in freenode/debian?
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[22:20:16] <Weltraumschaf> i must post the conversation of dpk *g* remove? yes!
[22:20:20] <Weltraumschaf> sty
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[22:23:35] <lacostej> on my machine the integration tests are really slow
[22:23:52] <vipsoft> .oO (get a faster machine?)
[22:23:53] <lacostej> my shared hosted server does it in 1/4 of the time :(
[22:24:11] <lacostej> my laptop is new. Core 2 i7 4G RAM
[22:24:19] <lacostej> maybe some FS issues
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[22:31:24] <statlor> fyi I'm getting heavily involved with our company's jira install.. I may be able to assist with maintaining that in the future
[22:31:39] <statlor> if you need more brains that understand that
[22:31:49] <aheritier_> lacostej: me too. I never succeeded to end them
[22:32:08] <aheritier_> But Sonatype twitted they cleaned them :-D
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[22:37:48] <lacostej> aheritier_: where is the tweet ? I am interested, I was going to start tackling the issue
[22:38:53] <aheritier_> let me search. I think I saw it today
[22:41:54] <olamy> a promise :-)
[22:42:34] <olamy> what time is the meeting here ?
[22:42:46] <olamy> in french TZ :-)
[22:42:47] <lacostej> 0:00 french time I think
[22:42:48] <aheritier_> I don't find the tweet. They have so many twitter accounts
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[22:42:51] <lacostej> :)
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[22:42:58] <aheritier_> yes midnight for us
[22:42:58] <olamy> ouch
[22:43:18] <lacostej> does someone wants to review pull https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/32 ? I got 2 users to test my private build
[22:43:50] * lacostej had fun today, I set up my private build server to push for my private builds automatically. If someone wants a similar setup let me know :)
[22:45:22] <olamy> aheritier_ do you read legal-discuss @ASF ?
[22:45:38] <aheritier_> @olamy : yes
[22:45:47] <olamy> read it now :-)
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[22:46:07] <aheritier_> the thread about forking a dead project ?
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[22:46:32] <olamy> Policy suggestions for associated marks?
[22:46:45] <olamy> oups ot here
[22:47:38] <olamy> bbl some kids to put to beds here
[22:47:46] <aheritier_> :-)
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[22:56:31] <aheritier_> lacostej: https://twitter.com/#!/hudsonci
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[22:57:06] <abayer> aheritier_: That's Sonatype, right?
[22:57:14] <Kissaki> when meeting? in 1 hour?
[22:57:15] <aheritier_> abayer: yes
[22:57:20] <abayer> heh
[22:57:30] <aheritier_> Kissaki: yes
[22:58:30] <Kissaki> meh...
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[22:58:43] <Kissaki> too late for me
[22:59:47] <aheritier_> :-)
[23:00:15] <aheritier_> Kissaki: Difficult to satisfy everybody all around the world
[23:00:28] <abayer> We'll do better on the timing next meeting.
[23:00:32] <Kissaki> :)
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[23:00:52] <Kissaki> a lot from asia as well?
[23:01:11] <aheritier_> abayer: I'm not sure it is really easy. If you want to have US/EU/ASIA ...
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[23:04:39] <olamy> aheritier_ did you read the ml ?
[23:05:06] <aheritier_> olamy: yes. Nothing new ?
[23:05:42] <olamy> not really just "fun" :-)
[23:05:49] <abayer> ?
[23:05:55] <aheritier_> olamy: yes
[23:08:24] <aheritier_> abayer: we were discussing about : http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201102.mbox/%3C4D4C6191.70104 at shanecurcuru dot org%3E
[23:08:41] <aheritier_> There not only fun things on jenkins/hudson side
[23:08:47] <abayer> =)
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[23:14:16] <olamy> uhm aheritier_ no joke dcutting seats in front of abayer :-)
[23:14:26] <abayer> Used to. Don't know where he sits now. =)
[23:15:05] <olamy> cool so now we can have more joke on ASF :-)
[23:16:01] <aheritier_> :-)
[23:16:18] <calavera> olamy: you can have jokes on it even with asf members on the channel :)
[23:16:51] <olamy> oups :-)
[23:17:16] <aheritier_> yes we have the asf channel for such fun
[23:17:59] <olamy> calavera just fyi abdera is sonar.apache.org :-)
[23:18:14] <olamy> I have add when testing the installation
[23:19:22] <calavera> olamy: ahh cool, I'm not too much involved lately but it's good to hear about it
[23:20:29] <olamy> and build by jenkins http://sonar.apache.org/jenkins/ :-)
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[23:25:39] <calavera> I was wondering if I missed the meeting and it turns out it starts in half an hour XD
[23:26:10] <calavera> time zone sucks, I need to move me to PST right away
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[23:28:22] <calavera> spain, the country that half of the year is in GMT and the other half is in GMT+1
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[23:29:02] <lacostej> does someone know how to trigger a restart in jenkins from a job ? I want to upgrade jenkins using a jenkins task. I am using a self built version. or is there a way to say     hudson.upgradeFromThenRestart(URL) in a groovy script or similar
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[23:31:20] <lacostej> OK I remember there's a button in the admin package. <form action="/safeRestart" method="post">
[23:32:08] <kisielk> migration to Jenkins complete! w00t
[23:32:34] <olamy> kisielk congrats :-)
[23:32:56] <kisielk> it's a bit more involved here than elsewhere, I imagine :)
[23:33:14] <kisielk> we have our Jenkins user in LDAP, with an NFS mount home directory, and it needs to be able to submit jobs to our gridengine install
[23:33:31] <kisielk> so there's a lot of bits that need tweaking
[23:33:48] <kisielk> still only took me about 3 hours :)
[23:36:03] <olamy> doh
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[23:36:43] <lacostej> someone up for a pull request ? https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/32    commit was tested by 2 independent users
[23:37:04] <olamy> lacostej you must something which automatically take the last war from jenkins on jenkins :-)
[23:37:10] <olamy> early adopter !
[23:38:45] <lacostej> olamy: ideally I would like jenkins on jenkins to upgrade itself regularly
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[23:38:56] <lacostej> at least using RCs
[23:39:02] <abayer> Yeah, I need to get that set up.
[23:39:35] <lacostej> the only problem I see is the start up time of jenkins whihc causes downtime
[23:40:09] <olamy> doh I have only ubuntu here
[23:40:16] <olamy> cannot test widows issue :-)
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[23:40:59] <tom_huybrechts> hi
[23:41:02] <olamy> so just watching the diff
[23:41:06] <olamy> I will do it
[23:41:06] <abayer> Hey Tom. =)
[23:41:10] <olamy> evening
[23:41:11] <lacostej> olamy: which one ?
[23:41:19] <olamy> https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/32
[23:41:28] <lacostej> ah :)
[23:41:44] <lacostej> I got 2 guys to test it. I don't have windows myself
[23:42:13] <lacostej> maybe we could ask microsoft to donate a VM ;)
[23:42:28] * olamy arf always typing cd ~dev/sources/hudson-core/ to go to sources :-)
[23:43:16] <lacostej> you use a separate user for coding ? or did you intend to type ~/dev ?
[23:45:03] <aheritier_> s/hudson/jenkins
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[23:45:08] <aheritier_> create an alias :-)
[23:45:35] <olamy> typo
[23:45:37] <olamy> ~/dev/
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[23:46:47] <VooDooNOFX> Can anyone tell me which plugin/setting or library is causing images made from findbugs to be generated like this: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2460/pngfz.png
[23:47:00] <VooDooNOFX> The labels are like font size 1 or 2
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[23:47:54] <olamy> lacostej merged
[23:48:21] <olamy> oups I have to move it resolved
[23:48:30] <olamy> and you verify after :-)
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[23:49:48] <lacostej> BTW I see we're not using version numbers in Jira. Is that intended ?
[23:50:01] <lacostej> e.g. Fix version/s
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[23:51:03] <olamy> ouch the list box will be too huge :-)
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[23:51:40] <rpetti> yeah, it would need to include all hudson version numbers, and all plugin version numbers
[23:51:53] <vtintillier> VooDooNOFX: I think it's jfreechart, used in http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Static+Code+Analysis+Plug-ins
[23:52:58] <lacostej> cant' jira handle per component verion numbers now ?
[23:53:25] <rpetti> dunno
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[23:54:48] <aheritier> olamy: with recent versions of jira you can have releases like labels and not like lists
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[23:54:59] <aheritier> Also we can archive old versions
[23:55:08] <aheritier> thus they aren't displayed anymore
[23:55:20] <aheritier> we can suppose we don't need more than last 20 versions
[23:55:24] <larrys> lacostej: no, that is a highly voted on ticket http://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRA-3228
[23:55:52] <aheritier> But yes we should begin by exploding the jira to have one project per plugin
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