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[00:27:40] <nickboldt1> Snjeza: thanks, I'll pull a copy of mylyn 3.6.2
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[10:17:10] <maxandersen> koentsje: nice blog from keith http://t.co/S49dcSOV
[10:17:45] <maxandersen> koentsje: did you and lincoln move on getting some more explicit api in place to detect which files are relevant to open beyond just text parsing ?
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[10:20:00] <koentsje> maxandersen, i actually have everything i need... just need to install the proper event handlers on the runtime side and send a 'hidden' command to the tools
[10:20:42] <maxandersen> so you get told what files are being generated/modified now ? awesome.
[10:21:06] <koentsje> yes there are change events for this
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[10:21:42] <maxandersen> nice - any info on which files are the "most relevant" ones in case there are multiple files ?
[10:22:08] <maxandersen> I guess in first version you could just open automatically if there is one and if there are multiple ones show a little popup asking for it or something ?
[10:23:19] <koentsje> maxandersen, or just open one at my personal discretion and wait for complaints? ;)
[10:23:25] <koentsje> there is even a jira! JBIDE-9540
[10:23:29] <jbott> Task: [JBIDE-9540] Make Forge Tools React Properly on Resource Events Fired by the Runtime [Open, Major, (forge), koen.aers] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9540
[10:24:06] <maxandersen> so are you getting events *Before* the resource changes so you can lock the workspace apropriatly or do we need to that globally still ?
[10:24:43] <koentsje> maxandersen, i actually need to investigate this, but afaik it is *after* the change
[10:24:43] <maxandersen> well I would say it would be relevant to ask forge guys to allow for some markers on those resource change events to indicate a "primary" one or something.
[10:24:53] <koentsje> right
[10:25:03] <maxandersen> koentsje: sounds like a good topic for this afternoon #forge chat ;)
[10:25:10] <koentsje> indeed
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[11:42:35] <maxandersen> koentsje: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9664 why ?
[11:42:38] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-9664] Use the cmd+3 style "sectioned list style" instead of a tree for  forge menu [Open, Minor, (forge), koen.aers] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9664
[11:43:00] <maxandersen> koentsje: why keep it in a tree ? that seems wrong to me ?
[11:43:17] <koentsje> maxandersen, i agree
[11:43:30] <koentsje> it was the simplest solution at that moment
[11:44:06] <maxandersen> okey so you mean to move it after M4 but before Beta/GA  or ? :)
[11:44:07] <koentsje> maxandersen, the 'real' cmd+4 widget is far more complicated than the one i have now
[11:44:12] <maxandersen> just wondering what the 3.3.x meant.
[11:44:46] <maxandersen> koentsje: what is that one actually using - thought it was just a list (or multiple lists?)
[11:44:49] <koentsje> maxandersen, ah yes it will not be done for M4 that's what it means
[11:45:04] <koentsje> maxandersen, no it's a table afair
[11:45:14] <maxandersen> koentsje: so put it on next so not forgotten or ?
[11:45:30] * maxandersen gotta run do some groceries - back in 30-60 minutes
[11:46:20] <koentsje> maxandersen, sure, i will put it on beta
[11:46:47] <koentsje> maxandersen, there are only 16 issues so it's still very manageable ;)
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[12:50:31] <maxandersen> koentsje: btw. had any thoughts about avoiding to print out full path names when just the relative bits is needed ?
[12:51:28] <koentsje> maxandersen, you mean the output that comes from the runtime? or the input that goes into the runtime?
[12:52:48] <maxandersen> koentsje: i mean that forge basically fills up my 2560x1440 resolution screen with wide lines of paths containing 80% the same content ...;)
[12:53:48] <koentsje> maxandersen, lol... but that's what comes out of the runtime.... it's probably wiser to get that output trimmed instead of trying to do something in the tools
[12:53:54] <maxandersen> koentsje: i.e. /Users/max/code/jbosstools/examples/workspace/forge-demo/blah/blah could really just be reduced to forge-demo/blah/blah ;)
[12:54:23] <maxandersen> koentsje: well the cool thing would be if it could be resolved relative to the context or something
[12:54:50] <maxandersen> so those running in command line get their full path and in eclipse you actually get the eclipse workspace name...
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[12:55:14] <maxandersen> well actually, a quick fix to my problem with it if those paths were clickable. then they would at least have a purpose and not just be noise ;)
[12:56:24] <koentsje> maxandersen, make the paths relative to the workspace is not possible i think. or at least could create problems when the project is not physically a workspace subfolder
[12:56:40] <koentsje> maxandersen, clickable should be doable
[12:57:04] <maxandersen> koentsje: if it is not physically a workspace subfolder it just gets to be the full path
[12:59:08] <koentsje> maxandersen, yes that should be possible; the question remains whether the additional filtering will be fast enough not to make the output too slow
[13:00:59] <maxandersen> koentsje: I believe there is api to look up a full path and get an eclipse workspace path back...
[13:00:59] <maxandersen> koentsje: not sure how efficient it is but could be interesting to look at.
[13:00:59] <maxandersen> clickable is hard if there are spaces and no quoting on those paths?.I guess forge uses [] at times.
[13:01:05] <maxandersen> ..but imagine that forge would have an api like forgeResource.toContextualString() which would be controllable by a hook to convert the path to something matching the environment.
[13:01:06] <maxandersen> that would at least be a quick fix for now ? but long term probably need to move it beyond string manipulation
[13:02:07] <koentsje> maxandersen, another topic for the meeting? ;)
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[13:06:19] <maxandersen> looks like it - are you collecting them ? :)
[13:06:20] <maxandersen> (ill have forgotten at that time ;)
[13:06:33] <maxandersen> now lunch (eating the groceries)
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[14:04:32] <adietisheim> ping maxandersen
[14:36:02] <fbricon> nickboldt1: I still have some build publishing issues, if you could take a look plz
[14:43:07] <maxandersen> adietisheim: pong
[14:44:25] <adietisheim> maxandersen: hi max, was looking for the staging server of express. want to create a new user without a domain so that I can create a domain in my tests. unfortunately stg.openshift.redhat.com seems not to answer, timeouts
[14:44:41] <adietisheim> maxandersen: i have the proxy set
[14:45:11] <adietisheim> maxandersen: what staging server do you use?
[14:45:35] <maxandersen> adietisheim: I haven't used a staging server with express since as7 got public
[14:45:42] <maxandersen> ask in #libra ?
[14:46:13] <adietisheim> maxandersen: did, no answer :(
[14:46:30] <adietisheim> maxandersen: hum, guess I'll create a new user in the prod env then.
[14:46:48] <adietisheim> maxandersen: but this is somehow not ideal since there's no way to destroy a user
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[18:28:55] <nickboldt1> maxandersen: I think the ubuntu_menuproxy hackaround is harmless for all ubuntu, non-ubuntu, unity, non-unity people.
[18:29:08] <nickboldt1> http://www.google.ca/search?q=ubuntu_menuproxy (and it's a hugely prevalent thing too)
[18:31:17] <nickboldt1> maxandersen: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=616003 and debian is still talking about Eclipse 3.5.2. How very last decade of them!
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[19:58:59] <bfitzpat> scabanovich - ping
[19:59:50] <bfitzpat> scabanovich - will you have a chance to look at JBIDE-9771 today?
[19:59:53] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9771] JBDS 4.1.1 - ESB OOTB action BPELInvoke not included in OOT action menu selections [Open, Major, (esb), scabanovich] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9771
[20:00:00] <bfitzpat> koentsje - ping
[20:00:19] <bfitzpat> koentsje - will you have a chance to look into JBIDE-9750 today?
[20:00:20] <koentsje> bfitzpat, hi
[20:00:22] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9750] Unexpected exception while deploying jbpm3 process on SOA-P 5.2.ER4 [Open, Major, (jbpm), koen.aers] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9750
[20:00:58] <bfitzpat> koentsje - I know jbpm3 stuff is low on the order of priorities (love Forge btw)
[20:01:10] <koentsje> bfitzpat, not today anymore... it seems something weird from the description actually
[20:01:20] <koentsje> not really easily reproduceable
[20:01:51] <bfitzpat> ok
[20:01:52] <koentsje> is it that urgent?
[20:02:02] <bfitzpat> we're trying to code freeze Friday
[20:02:19] <koentsje> ah... i'll look first thing tomorrow morning
[20:02:29] <bfitzpat> thank you koen. I appreciate the time!
[20:02:52] <koentsje> no problem
[20:03:29] <bfitzpat> have a good rest of your night/early morning. ;)
[20:03:46] <koentsje> thx!
[20:12:57] <bfitzpat> nickboldt1 - ping
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[21:38:36] <[1]jer> Hi all
[21:39:57] <fbricon> [1]jer: salut
[21:39:59] <[1]jer> I would like to add hyperlinks in drools editor ...
[21:41:01] <[1]jer> Do you think the drools mailing list is more appropriate than jbossools?
[21:42:51] <fbricon> [1]jer: mmm I don't think there's anyone on this chan maintaing the drools editor (cc maxandersen)
[21:43:44] <bfitzpat> jer - check on #droolsdev or #drools on codehaus.org
[21:45:17] <[1]jer> ok thx fred and bfitzpat (I go to #droolsdev@irc. codehaus.org)
[21:45:27] <bfitzpat> yup
[21:56:42] <fbricon> nickboldt1: pling
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[22:04:41] <nickboldt1> fbricon: bfitzpat: pong
[22:05:29] <bfitzpat> nickbold1  - I know you're tired of answering project examples questions. :) but do we have a devstudio location for project examples xml files vs. the jboss.org site?
[22:08:45] <fbricon> nickboldt1: publish step hits the wall https://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/DevStudio/view/m2eclipse-wtp/job/m2eclipse-wtp-e37/53/console
[22:10:56] <fbricon> nickboldt1: Connecting to filemgmt.jboss.org... Changing to: /downloads_htdocs/tools/builds/staging.previous/ sftp> mkdir m2eclipse-wtp-e37 Couldn't create directory: Failure
[22:12:05] <nickboldt1> bfitzpat: uh... don't think we do. I think everything just goes onto download.jboss.org
[22:12:30] <nickboldt1> bfitzpat: http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/examples/ has files w/ jbds in their name
[22:12:41] <bfitzpat> nickboldt1 - yeah, that's what I thought too - but Isaac was wondering in a recent docs bug for the readme
[22:13:13] <nickboldt1> bfitzpat: we could implement that if you wanted, so these files would be on devstudio.jboss.com instead
[22:13:24] <nickboldt1> meanwhile, there's this: http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/examples/readme.process.txt
[22:13:26] <bfitzpat> nope nope nope nope
[22:13:45] <nickboldt1> okie dokie dukie
[22:14:03] <nickboldt1> fbricon: fark farkity fark fark
[22:15:26] <nickboldt1> fbricon: which translates to "je recherche la probleme dans quelques secondes..."
[22:15:36] <fbricon> nickboldt1: :-)
[22:16:03] <fbricon> nickboldt1: ok I'll hold off Sons of Anarchy for a few minutes then :-)
[22:16:21] <nickboldt1> fbricon: qqcqc?
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[22:16:59] <fbricon> nickboldt1: http://www.tv.com/shows/sons-of-anarchy/
[22:17:32] <nickboldt1> ok, so for some reason you have no update site or zip in here: https://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/DevStudio/view/m2eclipse-wtp/job/m2eclipse-wtp-e37/ws/results/m2eclipse-wtp-e37/all/
[22:18:59] <nickboldt1> I recently changed the publish script to ignore site.zip in favour of site_assembly.zip; that could be the problem
[22:19:00] <fbricon> nickboldt1: I think the file is moved at some point
[22:20:10] <nickboldt1> fbricon: yep, fixing your script in Jenkins now
[22:20:58] <nickboldt1> and respinning. Today's 4:20 thought... don't change API w/o telling people! :(
[22:21:41] <nickboldt1> (I assumed no one was using site.zip as an artifact name because when Tycho generates it, it's just got the metadata, not the plugins/features themselves.)
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[22:39:23] <fbricon> nickboldt1: SUCCESS!!!
[22:39:31] <fbricon> thx nick
[22:42:04] <nickboldt1> fbricon: no probalo!
[22:42:33] <nickboldt1> fbricon: is Sons of Anarchy any good?
[22:42:47] <nickboldt1> I see it had Henry Rollins in it for S2
[22:43:00] <fbricon> nickboldt1: it's excellent
[22:43:20] <nickboldt1> better than Breaking Bad or Weeds?
[22:43:25] <fbricon> nickboldt1: but the best show on air these days is Breaking Bad
[22:43:36] <nickboldt1> got bored of that somewhere in S2
[22:43:45] <nickboldt1> started to stretch credibility I think
[22:44:01] <fbricon> nickboldt1: too bad for you
[22:44:17] <nickboldt1> maybe it got better? hmm. might have to give it another look
[22:44:31] <fbricon> nickboldt1: this season is just f* awesome
[22:44:37] <fbricon> like the one before
[22:45:23] <fbricon> nickboldt1: Sons of Anarchy is like The Shield, with bikers
[22:48:08] <nickboldt1> fbricon: I got bored somewhere along w/ Dexter but the last two seasons were awesome. Will try BB (again) and SoA, too. thx for the tip
[23:03:09] <fbricon> nickboldt1: currently running the m2eclipse-wtp-0.14.0-release job (build from git tag)
[23:03:37] <fbricon> nickboldt1: it seems I need to change the m2eclipse-wtp-e37-publish job right?
[23:05:10] <fbricon> me should rename  m2eclipse-wtp-0.14.0-release into  m2eclipse-wtp-0.14.0-staging
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