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[09:31:10] <xcoulon> good morning
[09:34:37] <fbricon> xcoulon: bon matin
[09:34:55] <xcoulon> fbricon: ;-)
[09:35:05] * fbricon staying home today because of sick son
[09:35:34] <xcoulon> fbricon: sorry to hear that your son is sick, hope it's not too bad
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[09:38:53] <xcoulon> fbricon: damn... He's staying in bed I guess ? how old is he ?
[09:40:19] <fbricon> 3,5
[09:40:54] <fbricon> Curled up in blanket watching monsters inc. :-)
[09:41:13] <xcoulon> not afraid ?!?
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[09:43:29] <fbricon> nope
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[11:40:39] <maxandersen> fbricon: what did zachary(?) do now ? :)
[11:41:34] <fbricon> maxandersen: dunno. He got sick. Kids get sick all the time you know :-)
[11:42:05] <maxandersen> fbricon: :)
[11:48:09] <Elisha> new day started?
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[13:27:10] <maxandersen> Elisha: that happens all that the time
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[13:31:33] <Elisha> maxandersen: forsure :)
[13:31:58] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ping
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[13:33:15] <fbricon> maxandersen: did you know that Archer and It's always funny in Philadelphia season premieres are available?
[13:33:36] * fbricon also like to non Java stuff :-)
[13:33:55] * fbricon also can't type properly
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[14:55:29] <maxandersen1> fbricon: you keep breaking trunk updatesite ? :)
[14:55:57] <fbricon> I don't break anything
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[15:05:31] <maxandersen1> fbricon: havent seen the md5 rehash errorrs before
[15:05:49] <maxandersen1> fbricon: does a restart (to clear p2 updatesite cache)  not help ?
[15:07:27] <fbricon> maxandersen1: it didn't. But now it seems to work again
[15:08:56] <maxandersen1> fbricon: the problem is that when there is an aggregaton build the previous version doesn't stay around thus if you update between respins things goes bad.
[15:09:16] <fbricon> maxandersen1: I hope it's the explanation
[15:10:06] <fbricon> maxandersen1: unrelated, but that's good news : https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=251323#c24
[15:11:06] <fbricon> maxandersen1: meaning I dont' need to add a new feature. yet.
[15:12:42] <maxandersen1> fbricon: so im confused ? how will resource filtering work with these ?
[15:13:12] <fbricon> maxandersen1: actually, Paul said they want to access the raw file, not the filtered one
[15:13:27] <maxandersen1> fbricon: okey - so what do they need it for ?
[15:14:07] <fbricon> display the JPA Node contents under the project view, be able to edit the source file ...
[15:14:22] <maxandersen1> fbricon: mkay
[15:17:47] <maxandersen1> fbricon: well it makes sense - but i'm forgetting what dali then actually need beyond having the manifses on sourcepath
[15:18:13] <fbricon> maxandersen1: nothing
[15:20:11] <fbricon> maxandersen1: there was an issue when resources were excluded by m2e (for filtering reasons), but Dali changed their implementation to locate these resources.
[15:21:01] <fbricon> maxandersen1: there's been quite a lot of misunderstanding on the issue. Talking to Neil and Paul directly helped figure it out
[15:23:35] <fbricon> maxandersen1: there is still an issue in Dali where an error marker would randomly show up on project import or workspace startup, but it can be fixed with a project clean or update maven project  configuration. Paul has a patch for SR2
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[15:28:53] <maxandersen1> fbricon: so they look up resources direclty instead of via JDT now ?
[15:29:44] <fbricon> maxandersen1: they look for resources declared in the .component by default
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[16:53:18] <maxandersen1> nickboldt: awake?
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[17:36:53] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, ping
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[17:37:02] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, question on - http://community.jboss.org/wiki/HowToBuildJBossToolsWithMaven3
[17:37:04] <maxandersen1> ldimaggi: pong (quick one)
[17:37:10] <maxandersen1> ldimaggi: yes?
[17:37:33] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, the maven repo settings file - what does it need?  I'm starting with nuthin here
[17:38:14] <maxandersen1> ldimaggi: it should "just work"
[17:38:49] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, OK!   Grazie
[17:39:07] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, last question for the week - you live on a lake?  pictures?
[17:40:08] <maxandersen1> ldimaggi: it doesnt hurt to add the jboss maven repos as described on http://community.jboss.org/wiki/Maven / http://community.jboss.org/wiki/MavenGettingStarted-Developers but as far as I recall we don't depend on it at this time (we probably will later)
[17:40:19] <maxandersen1> ldimaggi: I don't live on a lake - I work at a lake
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[17:40:36] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, thanks!
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[17:49:28] <maxandersen1> nickboldt: which operation did you use to mv the build - sftp wouldn't let me?
[17:50:19] <maxandersen1> nickboldt: btw. can you start the push of jboss tools to Sf / dev update site ? then ill push release blog and eclipse marketplace monday (or tuesday because of swiss bank holiday)
[17:51:35] <nickboldt> maxandersen1: "rename"
[17:51:49] <maxandersen1> nickboldt: doh
[17:51:59] <maxandersen1> nickboldt: cp ln mv
[17:52:10] <maxandersen1> nickboldt: who uses 6 letters commands ? :)
[17:52:13] <nickboldt> yeah, but even ln is different
[17:52:24] <nickboldt> linux: `ln -s`; sftp: `ln`
[17:52:56] <nickboldt> maxandersen1: re: bits to sf.net ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU
[17:53:11] <maxandersen1> ah - our theme song ;)
[17:53:13] <maxandersen1> greatness
[17:53:40] <nickboldt> will send email when bits are live
[17:54:19] <nickboldt> today's google doodle is in celebration of vitamin c. wowo
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[17:55:12] <nickboldt> maxandersen1: re: discussions yesterday around SOA Tooling... we still want to push the soa zip to jboss.org?
[17:55:16] <nickboldt> http://www.jboss.org/tools/download/dev
[17:56:21] <fbricon> nickboldt: "push it" make my ears bleed :-(
[17:56:49] <maxandersen1> nickboldt: ldimaggi did QE verify that soa tools site could be installed ?
[17:57:30] <maxandersen1> nickboldt: if they did then we just push it up there this time. for M4 I got some threads/action items going on what will happen.
[17:58:01] <nickboldt> maxandersen1: okay, George, I won't pet the rabbits too hard
[17:58:09] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, Monday
[17:58:15] <maxandersen1> ldimaggi: monday?
[17:58:29] <maxandersen1> ldimaggi: monday was JBDS right ? (which excludes soa)
[17:58:32] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, nickboldt oh - wait - SOA TOOLS?
[17:58:43] <nickboldt> ldimaggi: si, JBT-SOA, not JBDS-SOA
[17:59:00] <maxandersen1> ldimaggi: yes, for JBT we've published the site separately. for JBDS its not.
[17:59:05] <nickboldt> ldimaggi: for M2 we p-push'd it real good here: http://www.jboss.org/tools/download/dev
[17:59:29] <maxandersen1> ldimaggi: ok - if QE verified JBT-SOA then nickboldt you got green light to push it push it
[17:59:34] <nickboldt> maxandersen1: actually, for JBDS it's a separate site too, but was NOT published for M2 early access -- just the installers
[17:59:48] <nickboldt> maxandersen1: ldimaggi: and did they?
[17:59:51] <maxandersen1> nickboldt: yes - exactly, just internal fun.
[17:59:59] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, nickboldt JBT yes
[18:00:01] <nickboldt> you say fun, I say maaadness
[18:00:20] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, nickboldt not sure about the SOA tools
[18:00:25] <nickboldt> ok, then, M3 will include the same three zips as last time (JBT core, JBT SOA, Hibernate Tools)
[18:01:05] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, OK - my head officially hurts with the SOA question too
[18:01:08] * maxandersen1 seen QE reports about soa tools installation problems so *some* testing have happened ;)
[18:01:18] * nickboldt makes that eyeball-squirting-out-of-face-eye-twitch look
[18:01:52] <nickboldt> ldimaggi: you just said yes, it's been tested, then no, not sure if it's been tested. This isn't HHGTTG, you can't have Tea and Not Tea and the same time
[18:02:08] <nickboldt> at least not without removing your sanity first
[18:03:09] <ldimaggi> nickboldt, sorry - I'm still new here - didn't ask my Brno friends about the SOA stuff
[18:03:33] <ldimaggi> psrna_wfh, lzoubek, ping - details on the SOA tooling?
[18:08:22] <ldimaggi> nickboldt, yes on the SOA tooling too
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[18:10:41] <nickboldt> ok, makin' it so, #1
[18:10:44] <nickboldt> ldimaggi: ^
[18:13:30] <ldimaggi> maxandersen1, next week - let's talk about the SOA stuff in general - OK?
[18:15:17] <maxandersen1> ldimaggi: yup
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[18:52:25] <fbricon> any one knows how to identify one menu id in eclipse (PDE Spy ?)
[18:53:14] <fbricon> adietisheim: akazakov dgolovin scabanovich yradtsevich koentsje ^^ ?
[18:55:58] <yradtsevich> fbricon:  alt-shift-f2?
[18:56:41] <koentsje> fbricon, http://www.vogella.de/articles/EclipseCodeAccess/article.html#pluginspy
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[19:01:59] <fbricon_windoze> fucking linux
[19:02:30] <fbricon_windoze> yradtsevich: no alt-shift-f2 doesn't give me the menu id
[19:03:18] <fbricon_windoze> I want to know the id of  the "Build Path" menu, so I  can add submenus to it
[19:07:59] <lzoubek> fbricon_windoze, you can try swtbot it contains eclipse spy view
[19:08:46] <fbricon_windoze> lzoubek: how?
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[19:09:40] <koentsje> fbricon_widoze, do you have a french keyboard?
[19:09:51] <fbricon_windoze> yes :-)
[19:10:26] <koentsje> fbricon_windoze, that could be the problem... i have one as well and i needed to redefine some key associations on my machine
[19:10:33] * fbricon_windoze is rebooting his linux computer, again
[19:11:01] <koentsje> fbricon_windoze, go to preferences->General->keys and search for spy
[19:11:13] <fbricon_windoze> koentsje: alt-shift-f2 works, just not for menus
[19:11:47] <koentsje> fbricon_windoze, then i have no clue :)
[19:12:12] <fbricon_windoze> well according to your link, it should work
[19:12:35] <fbricon_windoze> koentsje: what id do you get for "Build Path" ?
[19:13:29] <yradtsevich> fbricon: looks like it is org.eclipse.jdt.ui.buildpath.menu . Found here: org.eclipse.jdt.internal.ui.wizards.buildpaths.newsourcepage.GenerateBuildPathActionGroup.fillContextMenu(IMenuManager)
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[19:14:45] <koentsje> fbricon_windoze, lol it doesn't work on my machine either
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[19:16:05] <fbricon_windoze> koentsje: ok, so ubuntu and macos are out, what else? :-)
[19:16:21] <fbricon_windoze> yradtsevich: thx
[19:17:01] <koentsje> fbricon_windoze, this is exactly why we need three machines with each family of os ;)
[19:17:22] <fbricon_windoze> someone with fedora?
[19:17:40] <fbricon_windoze> koentsje: I think I've seen it work in the past
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[19:18:32] <koentsje> fbricon_windoze, very well possible but apparently the guy that had to do the latest regeression tests only had a windows machine ;)
[19:24:30] <koentsje> fbricon_windoze, i screwed up... it does work after all
[19:24:44] <koentsje> which menu do you want me to test exactly?
[19:25:25] <fbricon> "Build Path" menu, on a classpath library
[19:26:02] <nickboldt> anyone have publishing rights to Magnolia for jboss.org/tools ?
[19:26:08] <nickboldt> seems I can't publish anymore :(
[19:27:58] <koentsje> fbricon, 'Build Path->' is a cascading menu right?
[19:29:28] <fbricon> yes
[19:29:40] <koentsje> fbricon, apparently it does not work for that kind of menu
[19:29:47] <fbricon> I got it working on it submenu, on my win7 VM
[19:29:53] <koentsje> fbricon, it does work for the submenu
[19:30:00] <koentsje> yes
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[19:32:06] <fbricon_windoze> don't put a breakpoint in GenerateBuildPathActionGroup.fillContextMenu
[19:32:51] * fbricon_windoze is rebooting .... again
[19:34:02] <fbricon_windoze> I definitely need 2 computers
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[20:04:20] <lzoubek> fbricon_dinner, open the view and press CTRL + Shift and you should see all details when you hover any widget
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