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[09:50:31] <adietisheim> ping maxandersen
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[09:58:21] <maxandersen> pong adietisheim
[09:58:27] <adietisheim> maxandersen: morning
[09:58:55] <adietisheim> maxandersen: trying to java -jar jbds and run into segfaults. is the current jbds runnable?
[09:59:29] <maxandersen> adietisheim: QE been using it for a while (current meaning M3)
[09:59:37] <maxandersen> adietisheim: otherwise you tell me ;)
[10:00:06] <adietisheim> maxandersen: yeah, was guessing that it should work. well, it's the 2nd build I try and cannot run. I guess it's a prob on my machine
[10:00:22] <adietisheim> maxandersen: but shit, it's a segfault wtf
[10:00:43] <maxandersen> adietisheim: segfault how/where ? do you use a real java and not gjc or something ?
[10:01:06] <adietisheim> maxandersen: shure, sun jdk, was the first thing I checked
[10:01:29] <adietisheim> maxandersen: java -jar jbdevstudio-product-linux-gtk-x86_64-5.0.0.v201109071858R-H28-M3.jar right?
[10:01:32] <jbott> adietisheim: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10:02:21] <maxandersen> adietisheim: yes if that is the build you got - what is the error ?
[10:02:28] <maxandersen> stacktrace ? time it happens ? etc.
[10:02:55] <adietisheim> maxandersen: http://pastie.org/2530586
[10:07:51] <adietisheim> maxandersen:  http://pastie.org/2530602
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[10:23:14] <rawbdor> maxandersen,  https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9703
[10:23:18] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9703] deploying standalone util project errors in occasional situations [Resolved, Major, (JBossAS/Servers), rob.stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9703
[10:24:08] <rawbdor> http://source.jboss.org/changelog/JBossTools/?cs=34679
[10:24:11] <rawbdor> maxandersen,  ^
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[10:46:14] <fbricon> rawbdor: adietisheim hi guys
[10:46:23] <adietisheim> fbricon: hi fred
[10:46:31] <adietisheim> fbricon: currently all 3 of us on call
[10:48:54] <fbricon> are you aware that after stopping as7, deployed applications are still displayed as started?
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[10:51:29] <rawbdor> fbricon,  yes im aware of this stuff.
[10:51:38] <rawbdor> feel free to open a jira I can promptly ignore :D
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[10:54:27] <fbricon> rawbdor: if you're aware of the issue, I'll promptly assume you're taking care of it and forget it
[10:55:07] <rawbdor> fbricon,  If by taking care of it, you mean ignoring it, hoping nobody notices it, and killing those who do, then i'm "taking care of it"   ;)
[10:55:27] <fbricon> rawbdor: is there a jira for it already or what?
[10:55:40] <rawbdor> fbricon,   DEATH TO YOU!
[10:55:40] <lzoubek> :D
[10:56:06] <fbricon> rawbdor: why do you get upset? you'll give it to your minion anyway ;-p
[10:56:45] <rawbdor> fbricon,  nah these are the issues i fix. my minion is busy
[11:10:18] <fbricon> rawbdor: there you go : JBIDE-9707
[11:10:22] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9707] AS7 server adapter: modules states show as [Started, Synchronized] after stopping the server [Open, Minor, (JBossAS/Servers), rob.stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9707
[11:10:30] <rawbdor> fbricon,  death to you and your progeny
[11:10:42] <rawbdor> may your son suffer my wrath 3 fold
[11:11:11] <fbricon> rawbdor: and sometimes you should keep your mouth shut
[11:11:25] <rawbdor> ..................
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[12:13:56] <maxandersen> fbricon: hey my main man
[12:14:09] <maxandersen> fbricon: I got addicted to frois gras while in france by the way..
[12:14:16] <maxandersen> fbricon: or rather - I overdosed
[12:14:49] <maxandersen> dgeraskov: do you know if yradi* is around today ?
[12:14:55] <maxandersen> dgeraskov: or victor?
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[12:15:07] <maxandersen> ldimaggi: up early
[12:15:49] <ldimaggi> maxandersen, hola!
[12:15:49] <ldimaggi> lzoubek, bonjour!
[12:15:49] <ldimaggi> jpeterka|afk, buenos dias!
[12:15:49] <ldimaggi> fbricon, dobry den!
[12:15:50] <ldimaggi> nboldt, morning!!
[12:15:52] <ldimaggi> rawagner_afk, hey!
[12:15:54] <ldimaggi> vpakan, God Dag!
[12:15:56] <ldimaggi> jjankovi, bonan tagon!
[12:15:58] <ldimaggi> psrna, ciao!
[12:16:00] <ldimaggi> maxandersen, hi Max!
[12:16:09] <maxandersen> crazy baseball
[12:16:11] <ldimaggi> maxandersen, yeah - trying to catch up with Brno before driving to Westford
[12:16:17] <ldimaggi> maxandersen, you said it!   ;-)
[12:16:41] <psrna> ldimaggi, hello
[12:16:45] <maxandersen> ldimaggi: im trying to get feed/info about the vpe bug
[12:17:03] <maxandersen> ldimaggi: but Russia seem to be out of reach
[12:17:08] <fbricon> maxandersen: did you bring foie gras back?
[12:17:30] <maxandersen> fbricon: no - I didnt. would have been too much
[12:17:43] <ldimaggi> maxandersen, I'll control myself and not make iron curtain jokes   ;-)
[12:18:37] <dgeraskov> maxandersen: hi, yradtcevich will be a little bit later today
[12:18:56] <dgeraskov> maxandersen: I don't know about victor
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[12:40:45] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: ping, I am here
[12:40:52] <maxandersen> hi yradtsevich
[12:41:01] <yradtsevich> hi maxandersen
[12:43:01] <maxandersen> seems like its victor that needs involving on the freezing issue
[12:43:13] <maxandersen> but im talking with QE aobut the severity about it
[12:43:15] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: ^
[12:44:34] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: yes, the problems looks to be in source editing component
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[12:49:28] <maxandersen1> dgeraskov: jpeterka|afk: what is JBIDE-3795 about ?
[12:49:28] <maxandersen1> dgeraskov: there is 3 hibernate issues open on M3?.which are relevant ?
[12:49:31] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-3795] Hibernate Config view cannot create JPA based configuration with @GeneratedValue using a @GenericGenerator [Reopened, Major, (hibernate), dgeraskov] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-3795
[12:51:28] <maxandersen1> fbricon_lunch: JBDS-1841 ?. its in there for JBT, right ?
[12:51:32] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1841] Maven SAR configurator is missing in m2e extras [Open, Major, (3rdPartyCertification, maven), lzoubek] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1841
[12:51:42] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: whats happening with JBDS-1795 ?
[12:51:44] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1795] Runtime Detection Dialog during first start gets over modal dialog with request to let usage reporting. [Reopened, Critical, (runtime, Usage Reporting), adietish] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1795
[12:53:29] <maxandersen1> rawbdor: ping - was that utility NPE occasionally thing new or old ?
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[13:02:01] <fbricon> maxandersen1: yeah the Maven SAR configurator is available for JBT 3.3
[13:02:06] <fbricon> M3
[13:04:09] <fbricon> maxandersen1: however, is the SAR Facet support supposed to be shipped in JBDS? (cc rawbdor)
[13:04:51] <maxandersen1> fbricon: no, didn't expect that to happen for M3 at least.
[13:05:11] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: I am currently analyzing JBIDS-1795
[13:05:46] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: can unfortunately reproduce the prob in the binary build whereas was not when "emulating" with JBT
[13:06:16] <fbricon> maxandersen1: I *think* you can't remove it from the JBossAS feature in JBDS. Need rawbdor's inuput about that one
[13:06:21] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: currently trying to verify that the fixes are in
[13:06:29] <maxandersen1> fbricon: eh?!
[13:06:54] <maxandersen1> fbricon: oh SAR facet
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[13:07:00] <fbricon> yeah it's not a separate plugin/feature
[13:07:02] <maxandersen1> fbricon: thought you meant the m2e sar stuff.
[13:07:13] <maxandersen1> fbricon: well does the SAR facet work ? :)
[13:07:34] <fbricon> I only tested it works with the m2e stuff. And it does
[13:07:38] <maxandersen1> fbricon: for JBDS-1841 we can agree this is not blocking right ?
[13:07:42] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1841] Maven SAR configurator is missing in m2e extras [Open, Major, (3rdPartyCertification, maven), lzoubek] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1841
[13:07:49] <fbricon> agreed
[13:08:51] <fbricon> maxandersen1: it's highly experimental. Nobody really knows how SARs are supposed to behave from the IDE
[13:08:53] <maxandersen1> fbricon: how would one test it without the mvn ?
[13:10:29] <fbricon> I believe you could start from the mavenized project linked to https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9127?focusedCommentId=12620831&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-12620831 and remove the Maven nature
[13:10:33] <jbott> 5: [JBIDE-9127] Add a SAR project Maven configurator [Closed, Major, (maven), fbricon] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9127
[13:13:50] <maxandersen1> thats kinda the "reverse" test aintit ? :)
[13:14:05] <maxandersen1> houw would I create the sarproject ? just New faceted project and then choose SAR Facet or ?
[13:14:13] <fbricon> yes
[13:14:49] <fbricon> I don't think rawbdor made a dedicated wizard
[13:15:15] <fbricon> maxandersen1:  I only needed a facet to be able to deploy it on the server
[13:16:27] <maxandersen1> fbricon: k
[13:16:44] <maxandersen1> something to look into clearing up for M4+ then
[13:17:41] <fbricon> yeah. so rawbdor ill have time to write a N&N about it :-)
[13:19:01] <dgeraskov> maxandersen1: initially the issue was connected with old jars in our plugins
[13:20:00] <dgeraskov> maxandersen1: but we left the issue opened as we don't recognize annotations in package-info
[13:20:18] <dgeraskov> maxandersen1: and now we do this
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[13:28:20] <maxandersen1> dgeraskov: yes but why are they still open with fixfor M3 then ?
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[13:31:54] <dgeraskov> maxandersen1: jiri reopened it
[13:32:19] <dgeraskov> maxandersen1: and I work on the issues he reopened
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[13:32:52] <maxandersen1> dgeraskov: but not on M3 right ?
[13:33:15] <maxandersen1> dgeraskov: and some of the issues refer to separate new created issues - shoudln't the reopend then be resolved ?
[13:33:44] <maxandersen1> dgeraskov: trying to get full picture of what is left on M3 and the hibernate ones just looks like bugs to be either resolved again or move on to M4 ?
[13:35:22] <VRubezhny> maxandersen1: the patch for jbide-9704 is correct. shall I apply it on M3?
[13:35:26] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9704] JBDS UI freezes for several minutes if a tag in JBoss Ajax4Jsf palette is selected for an xhtml file that does not have a DOCTYPE defined and the root node is selected [Coding In Progress, Blocker, (jsp/jsf/xml source editing), vrubezhny] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9704
[13:35:35] <dgeraskov> maxandersen1: because the issues are not critical you mean they should be scheduled to m4, right?
[13:36:17] <maxandersen1> dgeraskov: yes
[13:36:55] <maxandersen1> VRubezhny: yes - please apply it to M3 then and update the jira with the info.
[13:37:09] <dgeraskov> maxandersen1: ok, I'll change the fix version
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[13:37:15] <VRubezhny> maxandersen1: Ok.
[13:38:05] <maxandersen1> dgeraskov: note, separating out in separate jira if qe found separate thing but just reopened existing one is also fine (might be better if things already fixed in M3)
[13:38:17] <maxandersen1> dgeraskov: but depends on the issues which you know better than me ;)
[13:38:54] <dgeraskov> maxandersen1: ok
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[14:01:27] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: we need to fix the JBIDS-1795. the current impl is not good. #setBlockOnOpen(false) would lead to usage not reporting :(
[14:01:55] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: whats the fix ?
[14:02:17] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: we got about 2 hrs...
[14:02:23] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: I currently still dont really know, tried different modal bits but seems not to work
[14:02:41] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: so I would suggest to get back to the old version with the prob. the current fix is worse
[14:03:19] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: currently spotted a possible solution on stackoverflow which seems very much exotic.. not sure if that would solve it
[14:04:11] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: so according to you both not being modal is not a viable solution, right?
[14:04:49] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: what stackoverflow?
[14:04:58] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4370452/display-parent-modal-dialog-with-swt
[14:05:27] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: not being modal would bring them up in front the right order ?
[14:05:50] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: yup, but the workbench would still be clickable
[14:07:10] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: and the dialogs would still always be in front or ?
[14:07:20] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: afaik yes
[14:07:27] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: if they go behind the main window then they get lost dont they ?
[14:07:41] <maxandersen1> aka. would lead to no usage reporting too..?
[14:07:58] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: yup, right
[14:08:13] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: so right, not a good solution.
[14:08:49] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: runtime search only not being modal (while keeping usage modal)?
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[14:09:13] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: but, hmm.. afaik this was the way it was before... checking
[14:09:58] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: yup, this is how it was before..
[14:10:08] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: wtf.. that modal stuff seems broken somehow
[14:11:20] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: maybe calling  #forceActive on the usage dialog could solve the situation.
[14:11:34] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: according to the javadoc it would bring usage reporting dialog to the top
[14:11:49] <maxandersen1> try it ?
[14:13:12] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: looking...
[14:13:30] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: so going back to same as before but just usage does .forceActive() ?
[14:13:41] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: yup, that's the current idea
[14:13:56] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: sounds like a plan and better than current one?
[14:14:10] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: definitely. the current one really is not viable
[14:14:23] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: starting to think the runtime dialog should show up in a different manner eventually.
[14:14:26] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: even getting back to the solution before (with the prob) is better
[14:14:50] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: hum, yup, right. but not obvious to me how that would be
[14:14:52] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: can you revert at least back to the solution before in M3 so we at least have that and then try forceActive approach?
[14:15:04] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: ok, doing that
[14:15:14] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: well, using  a view or editor instead could be a way.
[14:15:26] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: force a view to get visible?
[14:15:30] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: which we might just get with JBoss Central ;)
[14:15:44] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: yeah, right.. good point
[14:16:07] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: but still, I guess we could have the same prob with other 3rd party plugs which open a dialog
[14:16:21] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: yes
[14:16:36] <maxandersen1> but all those are evil to show a dialog ;)
[14:16:43] <maxandersen1> we are the only one that should be allowed that.
[14:16:48] <maxandersen1> (just kidding ;)
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[14:17:08] <maxandersen1> i guess this explains why UDC delays there show of dialog a bit.
[14:17:13] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: ^
[14:17:13] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: hehehe.. yeah ;) maybe eclipse should provide a special hook for us: #showJBossToolsBeforeAllOthers
[14:17:22] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: yup, right
[14:17:25] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: yes - sounds perfect.
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[14:20:01] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: ok, reverted. now we have prior situation back in repo
[14:23:03] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: okey - do you think you can verify if forceactive will help ? or will we be in the same boat that your test wont be the same as what actually happens in full build ?
[14:24:16] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: hum, actually I have no clue why the full build would behave differently from my local "emulation". even disassemblled the classes. looked fine.. wondering...
[14:27:06] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: so looks like I could attach a deactivation-listener to the usage reporting dialog (which would get notified if another window gets on top of it) and then call #forceActive. Seems fine but that's pretty much shooting with big big hammers. wdyt?
[14:27:22] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: implementing and testing.
[14:32:13] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: yeah, sounds like a big hammer.
[14:37:54] <maxandersen1> dgeraskov: JBIDE-3795 ?
[14:37:57] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-3795] Hibernate Config view cannot create JPA based configuration with @GeneratedValue using a @GenericGenerator [Reopened, Major, (hibernate), dgeraskov] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-3795
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[14:52:52] <maxandersen1> nickboldt1: once you arise ping me
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[15:05:51] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: seems to work
[15:06:00] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: "seems" ? :)
[15:06:09] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: but behav is still odd. #forceActive only works once
[15:06:21] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: ?
[15:07:15] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: I delayed the runtime dialog to show up later. forceActive will kick in and "keep" usage on top. but if I focus runtime search dialog again and therefore put usage to be hidden by the runtime dialog, the event is catched correctly (focusOut) but #forceActive seems to have no effect
[15:07:57] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: ah you did the "wait for deactivation listener" ?
[15:08:16] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: "wait for the deaction listener"?
[15:08:17] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: so if it only works once then its not relevant to do the listener is it or ?
[15:08:31] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: I added a focus-out listener to the usage dialog
[15:08:44] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: this listener kicks in as soon as the usage dialog gets into the background
[15:08:55] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: and it would then call shell#forceActive.
[15:09:03] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: which brings the usage dialog back on top.
[15:09:19] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: but it only works on the first call. any further call seems to have no effect.
[15:09:47] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: I would have expected that usage dialog would have been put back on top if I would have clicked the runtime dialog
[15:10:00] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: which is not the case
[15:10:28] <maxandersen1> okey
[15:10:46] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: and reading about this the forceactive might behave different on different os's too.
[15:10:59] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: yup, I fear that, too
[15:11:05] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: so your current fix here does what better than the old one ?
[15:11:42] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: hum, I would say so yes. but it somehow still does not feel right
[15:11:57] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: feels like a workaround with inconsistent behav
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[15:12:29] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: but what does it do better? brings the usage dialog up in front before he runtime dialog once ?
[15:12:50] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: could you attach the patch to the issue and give me a link  ? then ill review
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[15:14:36] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: shure
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[15:16:23] <maxandersen1> hey aslak is rruss around you yet?
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[15:24:27] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: https://issues.jboss.org/secure/attachment/12347060/forceUsageDialogActive-2.patch
[15:32:08] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: looking
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[15:33:36] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: apply
[15:33:46] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: ok :)
[15:33:48] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: best we can do for M3
[15:34:14] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: and it would just be a noop for most cases anyway so should be very safe.
[15:34:26] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: ?and for M4 we need to find a better way to show the runtime dialog
[15:34:43] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: definitely. this stuff still seems weird
[15:35:14] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: can you create a jira linked up to this issue stating alternative have to be found for the runtime stuff for M4/Beta1
[15:35:28] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: ok
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[15:43:52] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: ok, committed, resolved and created a linked, new issue for m4: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1846
[15:43:57] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1846] Runtime Detection Dialog during first start gets over modal dialog with request to let usage reporting. [Open, Critical, (runtime, Usage Reporting), adietish] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1846
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[17:45:48] <gastaldi> Hey
[17:46:48] <gastaldi> Conflicting lifecycle mapping (plugin execution "org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-jar-plugin:2.3.1:jar (execution: default-jar, phase: package)"). To enable full functionality, remove the conflicting mapping and run Maven->Update Project Configuration.
[17:46:55] <gastaldi> Anyone seen that before ?
[17:49:07] <gastaldi> MECLIPSEWTP-137
[17:51:05] <max_afk> fbricon: ^
[17:51:32] <max_afk> gastaldi: are you using 0.13.0 ?
[17:51:48] <gastaldi> max_afk: let me check
[17:51:59] <fbricon> MECLIPSEWTP-137 is fixed
[17:52:40] <max_afk> adietisheim: if forceActive doesn't work as you say on jbide-9712 then the last fix has no purpose?
[17:52:42] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-9712] Runtime Detection Dialog during first start gets over modal dialog with request to let usage reporting. [Open, Critical, (runtime detection, usage), adietish] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9712
[17:53:00] <gastaldi> 1.0.0.20110607-2117
[17:53:03] <fbricon> gastaldi:  but you need to install the mavenarchiver 0.14.0 (which should be dragged along with m2e-wtp 0.13.1)
[17:53:32] <fbricon> gastaldi: how about m2eclipse-wtp?
[17:54:14] <gastaldi> 0.13.0.20110623-0455
[17:54:15] <fbricon> gastaldi: http://community.jboss.org/en/tools/blog/2011/08/01/m2eclipse-wtp-0131-back-to-the-m2e-marketplace
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[18:05:05] <gastaldi> ok, updating to 0.13.1
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[18:05:28] <gastaldi> Thanks for the tip !
[18:11:16] <gastaldi> hum
[18:11:21] <gastaldi> fbricon: You there ?
[18:11:22] <gastaldi> I think I am missing something in here
[18:11:47] <fbricon> huh?
[18:14:42] <gastaldi> hum, nevermind, I forgot to Update Maven Projects
[18:15:05] <gastaldi> It works fine now with 0.13.1
[18:15:05] <gastaldi> Thanks !
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[18:33:13] <nickboldt1> max_afk: pong
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[18:56:44] <max_afk> akazakov: https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9195 sweet ;)
[18:56:47] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-9195] Filter for validation problem preferences [Closed, Major, (common/jst/core), scabanovich] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9195
[18:56:52] <max_afk> hey nickboldt1
[18:57:15] <nickboldt1> max_afk: so... 4 reasons for an M3 respin, eh?
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[18:57:47] <max_afk> nickboldt1: yeah, rob just came by with the last one and he should be committing it shortly.
[18:58:55] <akazakov> max_afk: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9713
[18:58:58] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-9713] jboss tools knowledge base preference page has broken/complex english [Open, Major, (common/jst/core), akazakov] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9713
[18:59:13] <akazakov> we definitely need somebody's help to fix it ;)
[18:59:16] <max_afk> akazakov: yeah, just me adding jiras while reading N&N :)
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[19:01:09] <maxandersen> akazakov: assign it back to me if necessary
[19:01:32] <akazakov> ok
[19:01:49] <maxandersen> koentsje: using the cmd+4 and that stuff really need to be independent of a console?then it would really really shine
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[19:04:15] <koentsje> maxandersen, indeed... we'll get there ;)
[19:04:36] <adietisheim> maxandersen: fix: this bugzilla kinda meets what I experienced here. It was putting usage dialog on top when the runtime dialog popped up but did not when I did focus runtime dialog
[19:04:59] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: any time soon..
[19:05:06] <maxandersen> adietisheim: k so we are ok ?
[19:05:09] <koentsje> maxandersen, fbricon, btw congrats for the eclipsecon successes ;-)
[19:05:11] <adietisheim> maxandersen: afaik according to the bugzilla it would work on windows
[19:05:18] <adietisheim> maxandersen: I would say so
[19:05:25] <maxandersen> adietisheim: ok cool.
[19:05:31] <maxandersen> koentsje: did you submit anything ?
[19:05:43] <adietisheim> maxandersen: at least I guess situation is not worse on linux but most likely better on win/mac
[19:05:45] <koentsje> maxandersen, yeps but alas no game
[19:06:00] <maxandersen> adietisheim: ok
[19:06:10] <koentsje> i submitted a forge talk and the one that was accepted in the spring in the us
[19:06:33] <maxandersen> koentsje: spring was the bpmn thingy?
[19:06:54] <koentsje> maxandersen, no the gmf/graphiti comparison
[19:07:26] <maxandersen> koentsje: ah
[19:07:37] <maxandersen> koentsje: how far is ludwigsburg from you actually?
[19:07:42] <koentsje> maxandersen, i'll start to believe chantal yang's comment that they like my accent in the vs ;)
[19:07:53] <maxandersen> koentsje: hehehe
[19:07:57] <koentsje> maxandersen, about 5hrs driving i guess
[19:08:22] <maxandersen> koentsje: ah so not easiy meetup - well, ill be in antwerp the week after ;)
[19:08:37] <koentsje> maxandersen, right
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[19:14:35] <fbricon> koentsje: thx :-)
[19:20:16] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: all related issues from jbide-9710 is done
[19:20:19] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-9710] new respin of M3 [Open, Major, (Build/Releng), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9710
[19:20:53] <maxandersen> hmm someone added a bad link to that
[19:21:59] <maxandersen> blafond: you added comment about teiid designer - thats not relevant for M3 is it or ?
[19:22:35] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: so yeah, fixes in three different places that was rather severe but then everything else looks very golden.
[19:22:40] <maxandersen> best release evar
[19:23:08] <blafond> maxandersen: actually, our TEiid job was still pulling from trunk which is moving to 7.6 as we speak. Need to hard-wire it to our 7.5 release tag so it's actually "stable"
[19:23:25] <blafond> maxandersen: So it STAYS "golden"
[19:23:56] <maxandersen> blafond: but for trunk/jbds 5 we should be picking up 7.6 right eventually ?
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[19:24:18] <blafond> maxandersen: right/maybe
[19:24:52] <maxandersen> blafond: please work with nickboldt1 on your goldeness of the M3 builds?.i'm a bit scared when our builds depends on hudson builds output instead of actual releases...
[19:25:10] <blafond> maxandersen: right. have been
[19:25:17] <akazakov> maxandersen: take a look at https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9673 please
[19:25:21] <jbott> Enhancement: [JBIDE-9673] "Show All Generic Configuration Points", "Show CDI Events" and "Show CDI Observer Methods" dialogs should look like "Open Implementation" in JDT [Open, Major, (CDI extensions), dazarov] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9673
[19:25:41] <akazakov> what do you think about this new look and feel for CDI open ons.
[19:26:24] <maxandersen> akazakov: and I can type in that yellow dialog to filter ?
[19:26:26] <blafond> maxandersen: If we're targeting an 8.0 for 5.0 GA and we have a 7.5/7.6/7.7 community releases, should M3/M4/RC1, etc. have hard-releases in them?  or should they be pulled from whatever is sitting in "trunk"?
[19:26:29] <maxandersen> akazakov: <3
[19:26:43] <akazakov> maxandersen: yes you can
[19:27:40] <maxandersen> blafond: IMO we (JBT/JBDS aggregation) should get tagged/milestones to include - not fluid trunk. topic for upcoming discussion as soon as M3 is out to try avoid SOA/Core split going completly haywire ;)
[19:27:55] <blafond> maxandersen: agreed
[19:29:26] <nickboldt1> maxandersen: yes, and we have been. but I've assumed that when the freeze/branch announcements go out, interested parties will do the same for their stuff (Teiid, Savara, pi4soa, scribble)
[19:29:40] <nickboldt1> I guess I should have pushed harder to remind those folks it was time to branch
[19:29:56] <nickboldt1> meanwhile, for Drools, we're still just including 5.2.0.Final so that's easy :)
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[19:33:55] <nickboldt1> ok, so to recap... where are we on m3 respin readyness?
[19:34:02] <nickboldt1> and am I respinning EVERY JOB?
[19:34:19] <nickboldt1> maxandersen: or just a subset which need respin?
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[19:37:24] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: you can do an svn log if you wish to make it a subset.
[19:38:00] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: the issues have commit source that you can use to double verify.
[19:38:10] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: I need to go help wife with a horse - will be back later.
[19:44:23] <nickboldt1> looks like jst, runtime, usage, as, and teiid need to respin
[19:49:40] <nickboldt1> jst, runtime, usage have already respun
[19:50:29] <nickboldt1> as kicked, teiid kicked. will trickledown to aggregate, then JBDS Core/Soa builds for update sites and installer
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[19:57:38] <maxiphone> nickboldt1: List sounds about right
[20:00:51] <nickboldt1> maxiphone: well, that's what `git svn log -v` said, so I'm gonna trust it :)
[20:01:02] <nickboldt1> lots of little changes already included in previous days' builds
[20:02:05] <nickboldt1> so we're waiting on teiid, as, seam (downstream of jst), ws (prev build red)...
[20:04:58] <maxiphone> Little changes ?! Should only be 4 ?
[20:05:12] <nickboldt1> when all the component trees are done (~hr or two) it'll be about 3hrs to spin agg + JBDS builds
[20:06:02] <nickboldt1> maxiphone: svn log shows changes in hibernate, maven as well as the ones above
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[20:09:10] <nickboldt1> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9710 updated w/ other things changed since M3a dropped on Sep7
[20:09:13] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-9710] new respin of M3 [Open, Major, (Build/Releng), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9710
[20:09:38] <nickboldt1> maxiphone: JBIDE-9687, JBIDE-9562, JBIDE-9703
[20:09:39] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9687] JPA: Class cast exception during removing generators from package-info.java in JPA details view [Resolved, Major, (hibernate), jpeterka] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9687
[20:09:41] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9562] JPA: Standalone annotations lose properties when become nested [Resolved, Major, (hibernate), jpeterka] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9562
[20:09:42] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9703] [regression] deploying standalone util project errors with ArrayIndexOutOfBounds [Resolved, Major, (JBossAS/Servers), rob.stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9703
[20:11:00] <maxiphone> In m3 wtf?
[20:11:27] <maxiphone> Jpa should not have changes
[20:11:51] <nickboldt1> well, unless my log includes trunk changes... then it did
[20:12:26] <nickboldt1> http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/DevStudio/view/DevStudio_3.3.indigo/job/jbosstools-3.3_stable_branch.component--hibernatetools/19/changes
[20:12:40] <nickboldt1> http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/DevStudio/view/DevStudio_3.3.indigo/job/jbosstools-3.3_stable_branch.component--hibernatetools/18/changes
[20:12:52] <nickboldt1> http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/DevStudio/view/DevStudio_3.3.indigo/job/jbosstools-3.3_stable_branch.component--hibernatetools/17/changeshttp://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/DevStudio/view/DevStudio_3.3.indigo/job/jbosstools-3.3_stable_branch.component--hibernatetools/17/changes
[20:13:22] <nickboldt1> maxiphone: yep, changes for hibernatetools were in 3.3.0.M3 branch as noted above in Hudson job changesets
[20:14:00] <nickboldt1> so much for code freeze
[20:14:20] <maxiphone> Yeah :(
[20:14:43] <nickboldt1> AS build is done. no free slaves to get WS to respin as a result. Waiting...
[20:15:12] <nickboldt1> deltacloud and seam already in progress though. trickledown is working :)
[20:15:57] <nickboldt1> blafond: teiid respin from 7.5_stable is done. SOA Tooling aggregate now running
[20:16:24] <blafond> nickboldt1: cool
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[20:20:54] <maxiphone> nickboldt1: I crave for git workflows in these situations
[20:35:18] <nickboldt1> so when are we gonna start porting components to git?
[20:35:22] <nickboldt1> maxiphone: ^
[20:39:09] <maxiphone> Got a solution for checking the modules out without too much pain ? :)
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[20:54:30] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: my insomnia needs curing so ill be going offline soon - anything you need me for in respect to m3 respin ? (plan is QE giving green ligt at best tomorrow at worst friday)
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[20:58:55] <nickboldt1> maxandersen: no, I should be good at this point to push the build to staging as M3b and send links to QE
[20:59:42] <nickboldt1> maxandersen: shell script to get parent pom, hudson built-in to get git sources
[20:59:55] <nickboldt1> what else you need? already works for savara build
[21:01:35] <maxandersen> hudson is not what devs uses to build.
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[21:01:42] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: cool.
[21:04:56] <nickboldt1> maxandersen: fine, then building locally: check out from git, check out svn project for parent pom; build parent, build project. same idea
[21:05:08] <nickboldt1> like I said, Gary uses this today for Savara
[21:05:17] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: gary's project is tiny
[21:05:31] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: he doesn't depend on other jboss tools stuff either
[21:05:32] <nickboldt1> you're saying it doesn't scale?
[21:06:20] <nickboldt1> svn co {parent}; mvn install parent; git clone {multiple components}; mvn install {multiple components}
[21:08:20] <nickboldt1> anyway, either we keep saying "svn sucks, wish we had git" or we move to git and say "gee, there's a lot of components I have to `git clone` individually now, but at least I don't have to fetch components for which my stuff doesn't depend"
[21:09:29] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: they already only checkout components they need?many cases in M3 lockdown showed that happening?.
[21:11:17] <nickboldt1> ok, cool. so the workflow's already in place
[21:11:57] <nickboldt1> maxandersen: so, I ask again... if we can build in Hudson w/ git/svn hybrid, devs already only check out components they need, and can build offline too... what's the hold up on git migration?
[21:12:18] <maxandersen> nickboldt1: no the workflow is not in place
[21:12:24] <maxandersen> who does the tagging/versioning ?
[21:12:44] <nickboldt1> me or component owner
[21:12:49] <maxandersen> where does dev do their builds in their branches while waiting for merges to master to happen ?
[21:13:21] <nickboldt1> same workflow as now. branch for personal work (workspace), branch for code freeze (3.0.0.M3) or work in trunk
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[21:14:55] <maxandersen> yes - thus we would still be reliant on central server and master repo builds?. so wouldn't really be distributed just be same as svn but now with git.
[21:15:37] <maxandersen> anyway - I need sleep.
[21:15:44] <maxandersen> see you tomorrow ;)
[21:15:59] <nickboldt1> maxandersen: it's at least a step in  teh right direction
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[21:31:43] <adietisheim> ping nickboldt1
[21:33:12] <nickboldt1> adietisheim: pong adietisheim
[21:34:20] <adietisheim> heyho nickboldt1: just a quick question, but nothing that would hurry. I want to create a bundle that would provide jboss-dmr. Where will that be added/put to etc.? would that be created in our svn or?
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[21:51:11] <nickboldt1> adietisheim: what is jboss-dmr? when you say bundle you mean osgi plugin? where else would it go if not svn?
[21:51:17] <nickboldt1> adietisheim: for JBT? for JBDS?
[21:52:19] <adietisheim> nickboldt1: jboss-dmr is a lib to (de-)serialize to/from json. I currently use it in 2 bundle we have in as. It's currently in there 2x as embedded jar. Want to create an osgi bundle that would provide jboss-dmr to both.
[21:53:27] <adietisheim> nickboldt1: ok, so it would become another plugin in the as component. it would then be served as 3rd party plug or along with our jbt plugins (p2)?
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