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[09:26:35] <maxandersen> fbricon: did you ever respond to the mail from neil about wtp release ?
[09:27:00] <maxandersen> fbricon: I don't see any follow up but before I say "i'll get back to you" just wanted to be sure you hadn't replied just to him ? :)
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[09:27:53] <fbricon> maxandersen: I replied in the BZ entry, saying I'd release 0.14.0 by the end of the month
[09:28:14] <maxandersen> ?and the BZ entry is ?
[09:28:43] <fbricon> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=251323#c20
[09:30:04] <fbricon> maxandersen: then I'll need JBIDE-9670 and JBIDE-9671
[09:30:07] <jbott> Task: [JBIDE-9670] Set up a mirror for WTP SDK 3.3.1 integration build [Open, Major, (Build/Releng), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9670
[09:30:09] <jbott> Task: [JBIDE-9671] Set up a mirror for WTP SDK 3.2.5 integration build [Open, Major, (Build/Releng), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9671
[09:30:29] <fbricon> since m2e-wtp supports helios and inigo
[09:30:33] <fbricon> *indigo
[09:36:30] <maxandersen> stupid wtp guys ? thought they fixed their updatesite stuff by now ;(
[09:38:28] <maxandersen> okey - i've raised priority on those so they are more visible - could you link them to the issue(s) that they block ?
[09:39:33] <maxandersen> and I sent friendly follow up to Neil with link to BZ (assuming he is half as busy an notification inbox as I have he wouldn't notice bz comment early enough ;)
[09:40:21] <fbricon> maxandersen: link between m2e-wtp and JBIDE Jiras?
[09:40:47] <maxandersen> fbricon: yeah just put a url if not in JBIDE.
[09:41:20] <maxandersen> fbricon: helps at least me not having  to run in circles when going through hundreds of outstanding issues ;)
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[09:42:20] <fbricon> maxandersen: The issue key "HTTPS://ISSUES.SONATYPE.ORG/BROWSE/MECLIPSEWTP-11" does not exist.
[09:42:35] <fbricon> the link is already in the ticket comment
[09:42:45] <fbricon> "Dalie issue"
[09:45:37] <fbricon> maxandersen: I've added the latest WTP build to my eclipse dropins folder, but seems it doesn't pickup these jars, keeps prefering the original ones  from the plugins folder
[09:46:48] <maxandersen> fbricon: sorry - missed the pretty link rendering in jira
[09:47:08] * fbricon likes pretty links
[09:48:05] * fbricon notes to self he must not use pretty links as maxandersen can't parse them
[09:48:14] <maxandersen> :)
[09:48:42] <maxandersen> i'm just used to seeing something like <key>-<number> or bugzillalkjflkjwer;lwjk ;)
[09:49:21] <maxandersen> btw. with https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=349175 set be sure to set the minium dependency to the right version ;)
[09:49:43] <maxandersen> from what I read the issue was not hot fixed right?
[09:49:55] <maxandersen> yeah-  just 3.0.1. annoying.
[09:50:59] <fbricon> maxandersen: yeah I planned on locking the minimum version, since I'll put the jpt stuff in another feature
[09:51:19] <fbricon> to not impede other wtp users
[09:52:50] <fbricon> (that decision is not irreversible yet)
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[09:53:55] <maxandersen> which decision ? the separate feature?
[09:54:04] <fbricon> yeah. I may play with optional scoping
[09:54:41] <fbricon> need to make up my mind
[09:57:53] <fbricon> maxandersen: turns out locking version could be tricky. m2e-wtp should be able to handle wtp 3.2.5 and 3.3.1
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[10:00:07] <maxandersen> fbricon: but thats different API's aren't it ?
[10:03:29] <fbricon> maxandersen: ah yeah for Dali maybe. This interesting one being in the 3.3.x stream. I had another API change in mind (set default component root folder)
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[16:35:21] <maxandersen1> bfitzpat: heey
[16:35:37] <bfitzpat> maxandersen1 - hey
[16:36:01] <bfitzpat> maxandersen1 - sorry I didn't realize you'd scheduled a meeting for 6am my time when I checked e-mail last night
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[16:40:29] <maxandersen1> bfitzpat: Yeah sorry - I just put it at that time since you normally seen to be around at that hour - but len pointed out to me thats 6 AM at your place?.whoops.
[16:40:34] <maxandersen1> not intentional at all ;)
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[16:41:54] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: but now time is running fast here and only 20 minutes for the devstudio call and I've been on three calls already so I need some peace and quiet - but I hope we can do a quick sync you and len shortly after the dev sync call ?
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[16:42:30] <bfitzpat> sure
[16:42:35] <bfitzpat> I have a meeting in 20 mins
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[16:42:59] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: oh - doh?im apparently bad with zimbra then.
[16:43:42] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: so the question nickboldt will ask is readyness of the 4.1.x/3.2.x branches for an M1 spin for friday.
[16:44:13] <bfitzpat> and I'll have to leave in 30 mins
[16:44:23] <bfitzpat> have another meeting 30 mins into your dev call
[16:44:32] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: I'm out thursday/friday/monday so can't help much on that part.
[16:44:38] <maxandersen> ah - busy wednesday ;)
[16:45:04] <bfitzpat> yeah - after 9:30 I'm free, but that'll be late on your end
[16:45:17] <bfitzpat> I'm going to go fix some breakfast... back in 15 for the call
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[16:57:31] <maxandersen> adietisheim: did you see openshift now can create app from the webui ? *awesomeness*
[16:57:54] <adietisheim> maxandersen: yup, just saw the mail, currently testing the web-ui ;)
[16:58:06] <adietisheim> maxandersen: and my client in parallel ;)
[16:59:13] <maxandersen> adietisheim: but the awesome part here is that we can now (especially with the git commit/push improvement) do this on any OS with JBoss Tools.
[16:59:39] <adietisheim> maxandersen: yup, definitely, and very soon without web-ui
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[16:59:51] <maxandersen> adietisheim: teasing me ? :)
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[17:02:33] <adietisheim> maxandersen: haha, no. was hard enough.
[17:02:34] <nickboldt> maxandersen: yes, that and "are we done respinning 33x too?"
[17:02:54] <adietisheim> maxandersen: if their service only was not that weirdo
[17:03:47] <adietisheim> maxandersen: even reading their ruby code (and I'm no ruby savy guy made me go 'uuuuh'
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[17:08:47] <adietisheim> maxandersen: but honestly one of the worst parts is the jdk HttpUrlConnection that wont even let you read the response if the server reported an error. so if openshift oddly reports "500 - internal error" and the exact reason in a response body I cannot read it. brilliant Mr. Gossling
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[19:32:53] <maxandersen>  dgolovin pong
[19:33:20] <dgolovin> maxandersen: ping
[19:34:21] <maxandersen> dgolovin: quick sync ;) I got stuck on call with bfitzpat and <baseball>
[19:34:56] <maxandersen> dgolovin: not sure if you already resolved the issues but the one about manifest.mf and linux shell script seemed to still be on open on M3/M1 ?
[19:37:05] <dgolovin> maxandersen: manifests are fixed in M1 and is going to be fixed in trunk for m4, still working on shell script which is for M1
[19:42:21] <maxandersen> dgolovin: okey - could you split the manifest one then so m1 can get it resolved.
[19:42:44] <dgolovin> maxandersen: I'm on it
[19:42:52] <maxandersen> dgolovin: about M1 make sure to sync with  nickboldt / bfitzpat about when they start the build - the scrip tmight not get in if not timed right ;)
[19:42:56] <maxandersen> dgolovin: thanks
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[19:46:26] <dgolovin> maxandersen: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-3883 is for M1 only now and resolved
[19:46:29] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-3883] Manifest cleanup  [Resolved, Critical, (Build/Releng), dgolovin] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-3883
[19:46:43] <dgolovin> JBIDE-9679 is for M4
[19:46:46] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-9679] CLONE - Manifest cleanup  [Open, Critical, (Build/Releng), dgolovin] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9679
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[20:05:07] <maxandersen> dgolovin: perfect
[20:06:39] <nickboldt> bfitzpat: any news on JBIDE-9383?
[20:06:42] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9383] Remove menu item "New Business Rule (using the guided editor)" from Drools Toolbar button menu. [Open, Critical, (drools), KrisVerlaenen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9383
[20:09:17] <bfitzpat> nickboldt - other than the brief e-mail discussion, haven't seen anything more
[20:09:24] <nickboldt> maxandersen: bfitzpat: myarboro: rruss: can I get some +1s on https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1834 and https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1836 ?
[20:09:28] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1834] Relabel "Certified" features as "Selected" to match the actual level of support provided for those add-ons in 5.x [Coding In Progress, Major, (3rdPartyCertification, 3rdPartyDependencies, documentation, updatesite), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1834
[20:09:29] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1836] Relabel "Certified" features as "Selected" to match the actual level of support provided for those add-ons in 4.x [Open, Major, (3rdPartyCertification, 3rdPartyDependencies, documentation, updatesite), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1836
[20:09:55] <nickboldt> I can ram that through today for M3 and M1 if you want but need confirmations first. It'll only take 2hrs to run the two builds for each branch
[20:10:16] <bfitzpat> nickboldt - +1 to both - whatever is consistent and makes support AND product management happy I'm on board with . ;)
[20:10:43] <nickboldt> +1 in the jira, pls
[20:10:57] <bfitzpat> I voted for 'em ... you want comments too? :)
[20:11:38] <nickboldt> nah, just some sort of paper trail so we can point at it a few months from now when we're asked to change it. again.
[20:11:50] * nickboldt is cy-nick-al about these things
[20:12:01] <bfitzpat> done - e-mail, comments, votes...
[20:12:11] <bfitzpat> getting some lunch now...
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[20:12:55] <nickb_dogwalk> ok, I'm outta here for an hour pending the outcome of these late changes
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[20:49:18] <maxandersen> nickb_dogwalk: commented on the two certified/selected issues. all +1 but with comment that jslint and checkstyle needs to be QE'ed before adding it to earlyaccess etc.
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[22:41:54] <nickb_dogwalk> maxandersen: jslint is already in there -- you want me to remove it now?
[22:42:13] <nickb_dogwalk> er, wait, we don't push the update sites to EA, just the installers
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