[00:09:34] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: I assume no - but did you hear from Tom about JBDS-1676 ?
[00:09:37] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1676] NullPointerException in SmooksGraphicalEditorPart [Open, Major, (SOA Platform), tfennelly] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1676
[00:10:09] <bfitzpat> he's working on them next week - he's been slammed getting Switchyard 0.2 out the door, so it should be pushed to M4
[00:10:16] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: and JBDS-1698 ?
[00:10:19] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1698] Weak Modeshape Performance [Open, Major, (Modeshape), elvisisking] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1698
[00:10:31] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: that even sounds like a 4.1 relevant issue too ?
[00:10:33] <bfitzpat> no idea on that one - will have to ask dan florian next week
[00:11:05] <maxandersen> okey - mvoing it to M4 then
[00:11:23] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: hear back from bbrodt on JBDS-1790 ?
[00:11:26] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1790] CLONE - Unable to install BPEL extras - cannot find BPEL examples (JBDS 5) [Coding In Progress, Blocker, (updatesite), bbrodt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1790
[00:11:32] <bfitzpat> nope
[00:11:37] <maxandersen> the last I heard was him asking to get access to devstudio..
[00:11:40] <maxandersen> which he got.
[00:11:51] <bfitzpat> k, then he should be able to take care of it after the weekend
[00:13:05] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: nickboldt: do we know if this is actually still happening ? i.e. not possible to install BPEL anywhere on M3 ?
[00:13:24] <bfitzpat> Len was testing that yesterday and I haven't heard anything since then
[00:13:55] <bfitzpat> maxandersen - isn't it midnight where you are? on a Friday night no less?
[00:14:35] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: yes it is and you guys are all gone mon/tue so if I don't have an M3 build by then my life will be boring ;)
[00:14:52] <bfitzpat> boring isn't a bad thing
[00:14:53] <maxandersen> and less chance of M1 build happening ;)
[00:15:28] <maxandersen> JBDS-1810 bbrodt said is for next release right?
[00:15:32] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBDS-1810] Push BPEL editor development back upstream to eclipse.org [Open, Major, (integration, SOA Platform), bbrodt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1810
[00:16:12] <bfitzpat> well, ideally we'd like sometime in JBDS 5 timeframe, but with no SOA build resources not sure when it will occur
[00:16:38] <nickboldt> maxandersen: pom.xml works. pom-core.xml stalls. pom-soa-tooling.xml NPE's. This is in the jira as per the jobs and colours
[00:17:01] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: well we must have *something* since we can't release JBDS 5 without working drools, jbpm etc. that would break any updating users etc.
[00:17:21] <maxandersen> nickboldt: ok - so for M3 we just use pom.xml or ?
[00:17:32] <bfitzpat> then it's one more thing to discuss on wednesday. BPEL not transitioning to Eclipse for M3
[00:17:53] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: M4 you mean ?
[00:18:06] <maxandersen> nickboldt: (assuming pom.xml still result in the split of soa/core here?
[00:18:08] <bfitzpat> perhaps. :)
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[00:18:48] <bfitzpat> we scared nick off
[00:18:50] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: well the transition can't happen in time for M3 ?that is supposed to be built today/this week ;)
[00:18:53] <maxandersen> damn ;)
[00:19:01] <maxandersen> ..or were you just kidding me with the perhaps ? :)
[00:19:19] <bfitzpat> yeah - I know M3 is happening this week - that's why I said the transition isn't happening for M3 at least - perhaps not even by M4
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[00:19:52] <maxandersen> hey nickboldt
[00:20:21] <nickboldt> maxandersen: had to reboot router to make wife's windows box connect again.
[00:20:24] <maxandersen> jbide-9029 is just to push for M4 right ?
[00:20:28] <jbott> 5: [JBIDE-9029] publish SOA Tooling aggregate nightly / milestone sites onto download.jboss.org [Coding In Progress, Major, (updatesite), dpalmer] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9029
[00:20:29] <maxandersen> nickboldt: awesome
[00:20:47] <nickboldt> maxandersen: because it's friday night, YES. consider it irrelephant for now
[00:20:55] <nickboldt> (unrelated to elephants)
[00:21:31] <nickboldt> I need to know what's blocking M3 right now / what prompts us to need more respins
[00:21:32] <maxandersen> okey so JBIDE jira at least is saying M3 is "ready" ?now just need to clean JBDS
[00:21:46] <bfitzpat> damn the elephants
[00:22:04] <maxandersen> nickboldt: see jira fixfor version with M3 in it ;)
[00:22:10] <bfitzpat> ok, I'm bailing guys - have a nice weekend. I'll be back online on Wednesday morning
[00:22:14] <maxandersen> nickboldt: currently jbide is just all N&N
[00:22:19] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: later
[00:22:33] <maxandersen> nickboldt: JBDS-1790 and JBDS-1824 are the last contenderes
[00:22:37] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1790] CLONE - Unable to install BPEL extras - cannot find BPEL examples (JBDS 5) [Coding In Progress, Blocker, (updatesite), bbrodt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1790
[00:22:37] <maxandersen> contenders even
[00:22:39] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1824] JBDS M3 built from branch has M4 version [Coding In Progress, Major, (Build), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1824
[00:22:44] <nickboldt> bfitzpat: damn THESE elephants: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYhvrdG26vI
[00:23:10] <bfitzpat> skiing elephants. that WOULD be a surprise
[00:23:16] <maxandersen> nickboldt: and then your NPE/stall build which im still not grokking the effect of.
[00:23:26] <maxandersen> nickboldt: what was that jira again ?
[00:23:51] <maxandersen> scares me to see if pom.xml can build but soa pom fails with jbpm errors.
[00:24:21] <maxandersen> crap - i dont have the branch checked out?so can't even look before sleeping.
[00:24:36] <nickboldt> maxandersen: that's not pom problem, that's the one that bfitzpat reported earlier today -- koen bumped some versions and forgot to bump pom.xml versions
[00:24:51] <maxandersen> nickboldt: *grrr*
[00:25:30] <maxandersen> nickboldt: another proof using the mvn tycho versions will help?..but doesnt work much if the dev doesnt even run the mvn build.
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[00:28:17] <maxandersen> nickboldt: do you have the jira for that one ? (the one bfitzpat created about jbpm stuff?)
[00:28:57] <nickboldt> maxandersen: it was just an email between he, koen and I
[00:29:07] <maxandersen> ok
[00:29:11] <nickboldt> I can copy you if you want but it's fixed. and it was for 3.2.x
[00:29:21] <nickboldt> so... wait a sec... that's not the ... hmm
[00:29:42] <maxandersen> nickboldt: but your jira (i forgot the number) said there were mismatches in M3 and trunk...
[00:29:49] <nickboldt> yeah, one sec
[00:30:32] <nickboldt> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8656 is the parent
[00:30:36] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-8656] Split SOA components out of JBoss Tools aggregate site; create 2nd aggregate for SOA Tooling [Coding In Progress, Major, (BPEL, bpm, drools, esb, jbpm, modeshape, smooks, teiid), dpalmer] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8656
[00:31:11] <nickboldt> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9219 has the primary colours for which jobs of the set of 8 are happy
[00:31:14] <jbott> 5: [JBIDE-9219] Split up continuous and test builds for SOA/JBDS split [Open, Major, (BPEL, bpm, drools, esb, jbpm, modeshape, pi4soa, Savara, smooks, teiid), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9219
[00:31:33] <nickboldt> so, shit. jbpm has effed up the versions in 32x and 33x too
[00:32:14] <nickboldt> maxandersen: I've got 33x on disk here, will update from svn and fix the damn poms again
[00:32:37] <maxandersen> nickboldt: and the equinoxresolver is probably caused by the unqalified crap
[00:32:56] <maxandersen> i've seen such weird NPE's when I did the version cleanup and messed it up.
[00:35:39] <nickboldt> maxandersen: maybe but the changes Koen put in are for jbpm only afaict. that would affect http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/job/jbosstools-3.3_stable_branch.soa-tooling.continuous/ but not http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/job/jbosstools-3.3_stable_branch.continuous/
[00:37:52] <maxandersen> nickboldt: so the dif between the pom.xml and pom-corexml and pom-soa.xml is that in pom.xml we build everthing as usual but do thesplit only at updatesite publishing time and in the split it already happens at build time ?
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[00:41:44] <nickboldt> pom*.xml are only used for building offline or in the continuous/tests jobs. the components don't use them
[00:43:04] <nickboldt> those cont's/tests jobs dont publish bits, they just run compilation verification and tests as an overall measure of stability
[00:43:21] <nickboldt> meanwhile all the component jobs ALSO do compilation testing THEN run their tests
[00:43:55] <nickboldt> maxandersen: so these are semi-obsolete but still useful from an overall integration point of view and to be able to at a glance see how many tests we have / how good our emma coverage is.
[00:44:22] <nickboldt> capisce?
[00:44:43] <maxandersen> nickboldt: so the pom-core and pom-soa are purely for the continous stuff and what was done before is still done - these are just extras?
[00:44:59] <maxandersen> extras as in "doing some more jobs to verify builds/tests" ?
[00:45:35] <maxandersen> but then im confused why you are seeing NPE's in them since they should be doing the exact same things ?.some difference must be present.
[00:45:51] <nickboldt> yes. the goal was to have the same pair of all-in-one continuous (compilation verification) and all-in-one tests (3000+ tests together w/ emma reporting) jobs split into 4 jobs... 2 for core, 2 for soa-tooling
[00:46:08] <nickboldt> only difference is the list of components to build
[00:46:36] <nickboldt> in one case, the "core" pieces; in the other, "soa-tooling" pieces + upstream deps (like common, tests, archives, jmx)
[00:47:13] <nickboldt> but it's possible that something omitted from the "core" list is a dependency of that list. like AS depends on modeshape or something...?
[00:47:38] <maxandersen> nah as shouldnt depend on modeshape for sure ;)
[00:47:53] <maxandersen> but something else then...
[00:47:55] <nickboldt> that's just an example. *shrug* something in core might depend on something in soa
[00:48:40] <nickboldt> and yet I can get the whole thing to run w/ tests, but when I omit tests it fails. Need to verify that the hudson configs are the same except for -Dmaven.test.skip
[00:49:08] <maxandersen> which fail when removing tests ?
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[00:49:13] <maxandersen> omitting tests i mean
[00:50:16] <nickboldt> http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/job/jbosstools-3.3_stable_branch.soa-tooling.tests/ - works w/ 501 tests. http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/job/jbosstools-3.3_stable_branch.soa-tooling.continuous/ - omit tests and get NPE
[00:50:39] <maxandersen> nickboldt: omitests mean something else than just skipTests=true?
[00:51:07] <maxandersen> i.e. I saw at F2f you did some other goals instead of normal ones which caused tycho to get confused ...
[00:51:34] <maxandersen> so anyway - time running out here.
[00:51:45] <maxandersen> and this sounds like something to look at in M4 at this point.
[00:51:54] <maxandersen> JBDS-1824 you got all the mojo for
[00:51:58] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1824] JBDS M3 built from branch has M4 version [Coding In Progress, Major, (Build), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1824
[00:52:32] <maxandersen> and JBDS-1790 is the only leftover and that will just have to wait for the M3 respin to occur to see if its still an issue.
[00:52:36] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1790] CLONE - Unable to install BPEL extras - cannot find BPEL examples (JBDS 5) [Coding In Progress, Blocker, (updatesite), bbrodt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1790
[00:53:01] <maxandersen> nickboldt: could you pastebin the full NPE ? VPN doesnt want to come up...
[00:54:51] <nickboldt> maxandersen: http://pastebin.com/bBcvUQAA
[00:57:26] <maxandersen> curious:whydo you have Ignoring Maven repository glassfish (http://maven.glassfish.org) in that output?
[00:58:16] <maxandersen> oh this is not evenin the pom's its the target platform!?
[00:58:21] <maxandersen> did you split the target platforms?
[00:59:12] <maxandersen> nickboldt: ^
[00:59:41] <nickboldt> maxandersen: no, one target platform pom per stream as before
[00:59:50] <maxandersen> nickboldt: then thats weird
[01:00:02] <nickboldt> yeah, I think the fail comes from RHEL4
[01:00:14] <maxandersen> nickboldt: nah
[01:00:18] <nickboldt> comparing the jobs' config.xml I see one's on RHEL_any, the other on RHEL5_any
[01:00:35] <maxandersen> nickboldt: well try it  but i would be surprised
[01:00:56] <maxandersen> i need to go sleep
[01:01:22] <nickboldt> also one's using custom workspace ... weird. that must be a dgolovin-lunch thing
[01:01:37] <maxandersen> did you see my above comments about remaining issues (just 2 and 1 is yours the other cant be fixed anyway before we have a M3 build to see if its still relevant and bob isnt around until later next week)
[01:02:09] <maxandersen> so if your issue about job not having changed branch is fixed then i belive we can respin unless dgolovin-lunch / akazakov have some objections.
[01:02:25] <nickboldt> ok, two remaining jiras to verify then
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[01:04:03] <maxandersen> yes, but unless you or dgolovin can try do the steps in JBDS-1790 then that have to wait to next week and then it might just already be fixed or postponed because bpel bbrodt isn't around to handle it and then we just focus on JBDS 5 M3 Core
[01:04:07] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1790] CLONE - Unable to install BPEL extras - cannot find BPEL examples (JBDS 5) [Coding In Progress, Blocker, (updatesite), bbrodt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1790
[01:05:22] <dgolovin> I'll check JBDS-1790
[01:05:26] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1790] CLONE - Unable to install BPEL extras - cannot find BPEL examples (JBDS 5) [Coding In Progress, Blocker, (updatesite), bbrodt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1790
[01:06:36] <nickboldt> just need a clean jbds 5 extras build
[01:07:54] <dgolovin> nickboldt: ok, I'll check something else :)
[01:08:33] <nickboldt> dgolovin: I just mean if we've got a new build avail use that
[01:08:53] <nickboldt> http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/DevStudio/view/DevStudio_Trunk/job/devstudio-5.0_trunk.soa-tooling.updatesite/253 should work
[01:09:14] <nickboldt> though http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/job/jbosstools-3.3_trunk.soa-tooling.aggregate/ is spinning upstream ?
[01:10:16] <nickboldt> dgolovin: rather this site: http://www.qa.jboss.com/binaries/RHDS/builds/staging/devstudio-5.0_stable_branch.soa-tooling.updatesite/product-soa/
[01:10:47] <maxandersen> nickboldt: dgolovin: okey my job is done for this week - I hope you  will be able to start/do a respin with those issues that have been fixed and QE can use it next week and i can do N*N based on it.
[01:11:06] <maxandersen> nickboldt: dgolovin: doable or have to wait for tuesday ?
[01:12:17] <nickboldt> maxandersen: http://www.qa.jboss.com/binaries/RHDS/builds/staging/devstudio-5.0_stable_branch.soa-tooling.updatesite/product-soa/ already has viable bpel on it. can walk thru installer and stick it into my Eclipse 3.7
[01:12:33] <dgolovin> maxandersen: IMO it is possible, but I would say tuseday anyway
[01:12:44] <maxandersen> ;)
[01:13:28] <maxandersen> okey - shoot a mail with whatever it gets to be :) ill crash now.
[01:13:30] <maxandersen> later.
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[01:15:12] <nickboldt> dgolovin: installing bpel from the site above into JBDS 5 M3 (installer from build #23) worked
[01:15:27] <nickboldt> now downloading #24 to verify the other issue is fixed
[01:17:42] <dgolovin> nickboldt: yay :)
[01:21:13] <dgolovin> nickboldt: #24 should be fine, because http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/job/devstudio-5.0_stable_branch.product/ws/jbds-build/site/nightly/5.0.0.M3/features/ contains JBDS-5.0.0.M3
[01:21:18] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-5] Screen-shots re-sizing in PDF [Closed, Minor, (documentation), afedosik] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-5
[01:34:56] <nickboldt> dgolovin: I've closed both JBDS-1824 and JBDS-1790
[01:35:00] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1824] JBDS M3 built from branch has M4 version [Resolved, Major, (Build), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1824
[01:35:01] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1790] CLONE - Unable to install BPEL extras - cannot find BPEL examples (JBDS 5) [Resolved, Blocker, (updatesite), bbrodt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1790
[01:35:27] <nickboldt> and opened https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9646 for M4 target
[01:35:30] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9646] org.eclipse.bpel.apache.ode.deploy.ui has no provider or plugin name [Open, Minor, (BPEL), bbrodt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9646
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