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[09:38:36] <fbricon> Waaazzzaaaaaaa
[09:42:08] <maxandersen> fbricon: canadian!
[09:43:08] <fbricon> maxandersen: not that much
[09:43:59] <fbricon> maxandersen: how was your staycation? beside setting up a new desktop?
[09:52:23] <maxandersen> fbricon: hot
[09:54:05] <fbricon> maxandersen: I couldn't help but fix a few m2e-wtp bugs while I was away :-)
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[09:57:54] <maxandersen> :)
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[13:41:45] <odin_> good holidays....  what kind of shape is 3.3.x in?
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[15:31:00] <maxandersen> hey odin_
[15:31:00] <maxandersen> what part of 3.3.x ? :)
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[15:39:35] <odin_> well which parts are considered complete and which work-in-progress ?   for me AS7, Hibernate, Maven, want to try Seam again (last 2 years give me too much trouble to get into it) and also CDI and JSF/RichFaces
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[15:46:10] <maxandersen> odin_: the existing/previous functionallity should be pretty in good state of all these but as7, hibernate, maven and CDI is all work-in-progress on their new features.
[15:46:24] <maxandersen> odin_: and Seam 1-2 and Seam 3 is very different things.
[15:46:40] <maxandersen> odin_: Seam 1-2 = same as its always been (with bugfixes/smoother ui in places)
[15:46:46] <maxandersen> odin_:  Seam 3 = CDI
[15:46:57] <odin_> Seam2+JSF2 would be a nice starting point for me, Seam3 a bonus
[15:46:59] <maxandersen> odin_: Seam 3 = no scaffolding generation etc. yet.
[15:48:03] <maxandersen> odin_: well those two parts (seam 2) and JSF 2 should be fine ?but cant promise Seam2 to actually run fine on AS7
[15:48:15] <maxandersen> odin_: for that some modificatoins of the generated stuff might need doing
[15:50:21] <odin_> I think the last major problem was a Seam2 development mode re-deployment bug but with AS7 restart and web-profile now even if that bug existed today it would not be so debilitating
[15:51:16] <maxandersen> odin_: ah yes - AS 5.0 or 5.1.0 had funkyness in that area which was fixed in EAP 5
[15:52:13] <bfitzpat> koentsje - ping
[15:52:36] <koentsje> bfitzpat, i'm listening ;-)
[15:53:28] <bfitzpat> koentsje - I'm wondering if you had a chance to think about the e-mail I sent you a week ago about a jbpm3 issue - JBIDE-3727
[15:53:32] <maxandersen> hey koentsje bfitzpat - i'm horribly back ;)
[15:53:33] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-3727] When editing the node name in source view of jPDL the editor behaves abnormaly [Reopened, Critical, (jbpm), koen.aers] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-3727
[15:53:51] <bfitzpat> maxandersen - hey max. hope you had a great vacation! :D
[15:54:09] <maxandersen> awesome weather at least
[15:54:18] <koentsje> bfitzpat, yes i plan to tackle this either today or tomorrow as a matter of fact
[15:54:25] <maxandersen> didnt check work email nor twitter for two weeks - personal record.
[15:54:36] <bfitzpat> koentsje - awesome. thank you
[15:54:40] <maxandersen> how is 3.3.x/trunk looking ? all ready for codefreeze ? :)
[15:54:43] <bfitzpat> max, that's awesome
[15:54:44] <koentsje> maxandersen, quite an achievement :)
[15:54:46] <maxandersen> nickboldt:  awake?
[15:55:30] <bfitzpat> maxandersen - just fyi my day is hosed today - I'll be in/out all morning
[15:55:32] <koentsje> maxandersen, how many are in your inbox now? a couple of hundred thousand?
[15:55:39] <maxandersen> koentsje: yeah, but I actually physically removed mail and twitter setup from phone to not tempt me ;)
[15:55:47] <koentsje> lol
[15:55:49] <bfitzpat> max, that's brilliant.
[15:56:00] <bfitzpat> I never put them on my phone to start with. :)
[15:56:02] <maxandersen> koentsje: i'm actually surprised?the nonfiltered inbox was about 500, I expected beyond 1000 and more.
[15:56:15] <bfitzpat> though I do have google+ on my phone, which I may eventually remove
[15:56:20] <maxandersen> but think the full total was even under 1000 or at least around i100.
[15:56:22] <koentsje> man, i should have sent you some more emails ;)
[15:56:34] <maxandersen> koentsje: haven't even seen one from you ;)
[15:56:46] <koentsje> maxandersen, exactly :)
[15:56:59] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: my phone setup is what allows me to be on the top of a mountain, in the sun and still make it look like I work.
[15:57:00] <bfitzpat> max, I know I didn't e-mail you very often - just cc'd you when other people had already done things
[15:57:38] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: well JBDS 4.1 seemed to go all good except for one thing?.noone of the jboss weekly (one of them written by Burr Sutter) mention the release ;)
[15:58:10] <bfitzpat> I put out my blog post :D
[15:58:21] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: yup saw it!
[15:58:24] <maxandersen> all good
[15:58:35] <bfitzpat> past that I've been jumping through flaming hoops
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[16:02:58] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: sounds fun.
[16:03:14] <maxandersen> koentsje: is forge trunk ready for M3 ?
[16:03:50] <koentsje> yes i made everything ready ;)
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[16:05:49] <bfitzpat> fun. yeah.
[16:06:14] <maxandersen> koentsje: so how much managed to become reality ?
[16:08:27] <koentsje> maxandersen, ctrl+4 gives a list of possible commands in a tree (with scrollbars); typing in text field filters the list; double-click pastes the command in the console
[16:09:08] <maxandersen> koentsje: ok so paremater editing in the cmd+4 ?
[16:09:21] <maxandersen> koentsje: (its cmd+4 on mac right ? and ctrl+4 on pc?)
[16:09:34] <koentsje> maxandersen, yeps
[16:09:45] <koentsje> i didn't do the previous choices yet
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[18:03:09] <nickboldt> maxandersen: your rang, master? (feeling a little like Igor today)
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[22:22:05] <maxandersen> testing some logging
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[23:35:24] <maxandersen> #startmeeting
[23:35:24] <jbott> Meeting started Tue Aug 30 21:34:56 2011 UTC.  The chair is maxandersen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
[23:35:25] <jbott> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
[23:35:27] <maxandersen> test
[23:35:29] <maxandersen> #endmeeting
[23:35:40] 
[23:35:40] <jbott> Meeting ended Tue Aug 30 21:35:01 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
[23:35:40] <jbott> Minutes:        http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/jbosstools/2011/jbosstools.2011-08-30-21.34.html
[23:35:40] <jbott> Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/jbosstools/2011/jbosstools.2011-08-30-21.34.txt
[23:35:40] <jbott> Log:            http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/jbosstools/2011/jbosstools.2011-08-30-21.34.log.html
[23:36:54] <maxandersen> #startmeeting
[23:36:54] <jbott> Meeting started Tue Aug 30 21:36:26 2011 UTC.  The chair is maxandersen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
[23:36:54] <jbott> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
[23:36:56] <maxandersen> test2
[23:36:58] <maxandersen> #endmeeting
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[23:37:04] <jbott> Meeting ended Tue Aug 30 21:36:30 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
[23:37:04] <jbott> Minutes:        http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/jbosstools/2011/jbosstools.2011-08-30-21.36.html
[23:37:04] <jbott> Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/jbosstools/2011/jbosstools.2011-08-30-21.36.txt
[23:37:04] <jbott> Log:            http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/jbosstools/2011/jbosstools.2011-08-30-21.36.log.html
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