[00:00:07] <maxandersen> fbricon: I cant even find a way to uninstall it..
[00:00:55] <fbricon> maxandersen: maybe it's because it was dragged by the JBT maven plugins
[00:02:42] <fbricon> unrelated, but looks like using https  urls in m2E-wtp's composite update site was causing failures for some Eclipse installation using a proxy
[00:02:43] <maxandersen> yeah i m uinstalling all those
[00:03:00] <maxandersen> fbricon: oh?
[00:03:10] <maxandersen> fbricon: but why is https used in m2ewtp stie?
[00:03:27] <fbricon> references the mavenarchiver site from m2e extras
[00:03:29] <maxandersen> (we use them on jbds sites because of security requirements)
[00:04:21] <fbricon> switched to http, the # of related errors stopped increasing
[00:05:14] <fbricon> well I need a few more days to confirm that
[00:05:40] <fbricon> and now maxandersen should disconnect
[00:09:29] <maxandersen> http://community.jboss.org/en/tools/blog/2011/08/12/jboss-tools-321-updates
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[00:25:06] <maxandersen> doh
[00:25:07] <maxandersen> fixing
[00:26:25] <maxandersen> fbricon: fixed
[00:26:32] <maxandersen> now pushing it on all the other ones.
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[00:27:18] <fbricon> maxandersen: what other ones?
[00:27:26] <maxandersen> jbosstools announce mail
[00:27:29] <maxandersen> jboss tools forum
[00:27:44] <fbricon> don't you have a script for that ;-P
[00:28:49] <maxandersen> i wish
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[00:49:36] <maxandersen> akazakov: ping
[00:49:44] <akazakov> maxandersen: pong
[00:49:46] <maxandersen> dgolovin: pong
[00:49:58] <maxandersen> looking through any outstanding issues i have assigned ..
[00:50:05] <maxandersen> i missed a few ;(
[00:50:43] <maxandersen> jbide-2927 - daniel doesn't write anything new except I can now see a new screenshot that seem to indicate he created a seam classpath runtime container AND started using the facet library provider api.
[00:50:46] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-2927] There should be an option to/not to copy the libraries when user create New Seam Project. [Open, Major, (Seam2), maxandersen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-2927
[00:50:46] <maxandersen> is that correct?
[00:52:46] <akazakov> maxandersen: yes
[00:52:52] <akazakov> that's correct
[00:53:08] <maxandersen> akazakov: mkay
[00:53:24] <maxandersen> akazakov: awesome it uses library facet thing.
[00:53:56] <maxandersen> akazakov: less awesome we are introducing a classpath container but I guess its ok as long as it is not ht default
[00:54:29] <akazakov> maxandersen: it's just a proposal, we still have to implement it if it's ok to do it in this way
[00:54:41] <maxandersen> oh
[00:54:56] <akazakov> so we have not implemented it yet ;)
[00:55:10] <maxandersen> then i would definitely stay of the classpath container
[00:55:37] <maxandersen> at least for m3
[00:55:40] <maxandersen> :)
[00:57:33] <maxandersen> ak
[00:57:54] <maxandersen> akazakov: ive assigned it to daniel with comment. let me know if any questions ;)
[00:58:48] <akazakov> ok
[00:59:53] <akazakov> maxandersen: maybe it's better to move it to m4? it's not a big problem anymore. since we have fixed JBIDE-8801
[00:59:57] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-8801] Seam Facet Install Delegate should not copy resources and libraries from Seam Runtime in case of installing it to an existing project. [Closed, Major, (Seam2), dazarov] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8801
[01:00:36] <akazakov> we don't copy any libs or resources if user install facet on the existing project instead of creating new project via new seam wizard
[01:01:51] <maxandersen> ill let that be up to you. using library facets api sounds like a good overall thing to do at least.
[01:03:06] <akazakov> i would focus on cdi quick fixes and other cdi stuff so far. but ok, we will see. maybe it won't take long time to fix seam2 wizard
[01:04:13] <maxandersen> akazakov: sure - understood.
[01:04:30] <maxandersen> btw. where is dgolovin ? been pinging him all week but not seen him much ? is he ok ?
[01:05:08] <dgolovin> maxandersen: I was off only yesterday
[01:06:10] <maxandersen> dgolovin: you forgot to enable ping on your chat client ? :)
[01:06:24] <maxandersen> been pinging but no answer ;)
[01:06:54] <maxandersen> anyway - i'm crashruning throuhg my m3 outstsanding issues - all the stuff I was supposed to work peacefully on this week but that just didnt happen.
[01:07:19] <maxandersen> i'm relaying some stuff to you - if it can't make it it cant make it .
[01:07:40] <maxandersen> but take a look and push back to me on m4 if idiotic, ok ? :)
[01:08:27] <dgolovin> maxandersen: ok
[01:09:08] <maxandersen> btw. one tricky one is the manifest cleanup one
[01:09:30] <dgolovin> maxandersen: sure, most dangerous
[01:09:33] <maxandersen> we are seeing a *tons* of bad installs on eclipse marketplace - primarily because of users trying to install iit on eclipse 3.7
[01:09:37] <maxandersen> dgd
[01:09:57] <maxandersen> i was thinking if that limit could be set on feature level instead of plugins ? (that would be a much smaller change)
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[01:11:32] <dgolovin> maxandersen: it is good way to minimize changes across the bundles
[01:12:03] <dgolovin> maxandersen: ... and we were using it at some point
[01:12:26] <dgolovin> maxandersen: ... and then stopped for some reason
[01:15:51] <maxandersen> i think its not considered best p2 practice
[01:15:57] <maxandersen> but not sure right now
[01:16:41] <maxandersen> or it was part of nick's cleanup when we tried to move to tycho built - he removed ranges at some pont there?but my gut feeling says that were in bundles not in features?but jonestly not sure.
[01:18:20] <maxandersen> btw. dgolovin while im gone - remember that you got admin access over both jira and svn thus if any issues in that respect you should be able to fix'em. (nickboldt / bfitzpat got te same permissions too)
[01:19:20] <dgolovin> maxandersen: got that
[01:20:59] <dgolovin> maxandersen: it were bundles
[01:23:28] <maxandersen> dgolovin: okey
[01:24:16] <maxandersen> ask nick when he get back if he remember the reason for features not having the limit anymore and then decide based ont ath?
[01:25:19] <maxandersen> dgolovin: anything you need from me before I crash and burn ?
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[01:28:00] <dgolovin> maxandersen: nothing, I just stack this week in crucible but I hope I'll get out of it today
[01:33:05] <maxandersen> hehe
[01:33:17] <maxandersen> yeah i saw the exception one.
[01:33:19] <maxandersen> did you create others?
[01:33:45] <dgolovin> maxandersen: yes, but haven't started them yet
[01:33:48] <maxandersen> btw. did you just add all those one by one  or did you find a good way to add all those files? dgolovin?
[01:34:41] <dgolovin> maxandersen: one by one in add dialog, need browse to it and mark
[01:36:07] <akazakov> maxandersen: JBIDE-9408
[01:36:10] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9408] JBoss Tools XML Editor should not format XML if the file is edited in Source tab. [Reopened, Major, (XML Structured Editor), scabanovich] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9408
[01:36:32] <akazakov> please take a look at Slava's comment
[01:40:51] <maxandersen> akazakov:resolved it
[01:41:14] <maxandersen> I love slava's explanations - just sad he doesnt add them on first commit/resolve first ;)
[01:43:02] <akazakov> ;)
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[02:31:47] <maxandersen> fbricon: arent you on vacation yet?
[02:31:55] <fbricon> hummm
[02:32:09] <fbricon> JIRA triaging
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[02:33:19] <fbricon> maxandersen: good thing you're still here https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8972?focusedCommentId=12620837#comment-12620837
[02:33:22] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-8972] "Copy dependencies into project" on any Classpath container [Open, Major, (libmanagement), fbricon] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8972
[02:34:33] <maxandersen> fbricon: commente d;)
[02:34:54] <maxandersen> and thanks for linking the issues up - makes life so much easier ;)
[02:35:23] <maxandersen> dgolovin: ping?
[02:35:38] <maxandersen> dgolovin: did you see/understand my mail(s) about the browsersimulator?
[02:36:16] <fbricon> maxandersen: which links?
[02:36:36] <maxandersen> fbricon: jira to bugzilla and fix versions + good comments
[02:36:49] <maxandersen> once we get back with vacation brains we will be happy for that ;)
[02:37:09] <fbricon> oh ok
[02:42:27] <fbricon> maxandersen: "if the jars are already inside the project I guess they should just get added as normal jars ?" should we expand for "already inside the workspace"?
[02:43:47] <maxandersen> fbricon: not understanding?
[02:44:12] <maxandersen> why on earth is https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8734 targetd for M4
[02:44:15] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-8734] Update Site containing JBT Bot Tests [Coding In Progress, Major, (updatesite), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8734
[02:45:29] <fbricon> if ejb project has the EAR library. Should we point to the jars in EARContent/lib directly?
[02:48:33] <fbricon> maxandersen: ^
[02:48:55] <maxandersen> thats what it does aint it?
[02:49:27] <fbricon> maxandersen: yes the EAR library is a wrapper for that
[02:49:53] <fbricon> instead of mapping jars individually, which is what we're gonna do
[02:53:47] <fbricon> maxandersen: do we really want to be able to dump the JRE System Library?
[02:55:07] <maxandersen> fbricon: why limit it ? I would just put up a big fat warning.
[02:55:20] <fbricon> and there's the Maven Library being added back after each maven update config
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[03:01:19] <fbricon> maxandersen: I think it's time to let it go :-)
[03:01:29] <fbricon> maxandersen: bonnes vacances
[03:01:43] * fbricon needs to crash
[03:01:45] <maxandersen> fbricon: :)
[03:01:47] <maxandersen> same here
[03:02:17] <maxandersen> so clsoe at reaching inbox zero
[03:02:43] <maxandersen> just saw your active/deactie buttons ..yaay
[03:03:36] <fbricon> maxandersen: I was at inbox zero but someone keeps sending me mails at 2:53
[03:04:12] <maxandersen> fbricon: then you frogot to close your mailbox at the right time
[03:05:17] <fbricon> whatever. Take it easy max
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[03:05:30] <maxandersen> fbricon: you too fred
[03:05:37] <maxandersen> fbricon_pto: im out
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[03:06:08] <fbricon_pto_ZzZz> max_ps3: don't tell me you're gonna switch on the ps3 now
[03:06:31] <max_ps3> max_ps3: i drank too much wine to sleep now ;)
[03:06:44] <max_ps3> ps3 sounds like a good way to phase into zzz
[03:07:38] * fbricon_pto_ZzZz is really gone now. really, for good.
[03:11:47] <max_ps3> bye bye
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