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[08:26:27] <maxandersen> all alone?
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[13:20:55] <maxandersen> dpalmer: ping
[13:21:20] <maxandersen> dpalmer: would you be able to join us on our devstudio dev call to sync on progress (or nonprogress ;) for soa split ?
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[13:28:48] <maxandersen> dgeraskov: heya
[13:30:01] <maxandersen> do you know where yahor is ? haven't seen him for a while.
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[13:31:58] <dgeraskov> hey, max!
[13:32:20] <dgeraskov> maxandersen: he is here
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[13:36:02] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: hi ;)
[13:38:01] <maxandersen> heya where have you been the last week ? :)
[13:38:14] <maxandersen> did you see my mail about vpe/xulrunner versions ?
[13:38:23] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: I change my OS too often to keep myself logged in to IRC
[13:38:52] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: yes, got it and already responded
[13:39:14] <maxandersen> ah ;)
[13:39:30] <maxandersen> why do you change os that often ?
[13:39:43] <maxandersen> you dont use virtualisation for testing?
[13:40:59] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: no, I have them all installed and I am rebooting every time. You know, these MacOS, and Linux problems...
[13:43:55] <maxandersen> yeah I know those -  reason why I assumed you would use virtualization to avoid having to reboot all the time ;)
[13:44:20] <maxandersen> how are VPE doing otherwise?
[13:44:55] <maxandersen> did you find a solution for the runtime issues ? did we get swt patch in or not?
[13:47:09] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: there is only one solution for the Linux problem now - to wait for SWT team to apply the Snjezana's patch
[13:48:13] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: from time to time I and Denis are trying to fix it in another way if we have ideas, but none of them helped ;(
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[13:49:10] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: do you remember you created https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8711 ?
[13:49:15] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-8711] Visual Page Editor very often just shows Grey area where Visual Page Editor should be when clicking a search result [Coding In Progress, Critical, (UpStream, Visual Page Editor core), yradtsevich] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8711
[13:50:04] <maxandersen> yes
[13:50:56] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: there is an eclipse bug for it, but GEF team says they do not have MacOS
[13:52:01] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: do we have somebody who has Mac and knows GEF?
[13:52:59] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: ask on jbosstools mailing list ;)
[13:53:06] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: koen might know
[13:53:31] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: okay
[13:53:43] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: but since the issue is found elsewhere why dont we just suggest it moves to SWT on the bug ?
[13:56:01] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: I have created a 20-line snippet which can reproduce this issue with SWT and one draw2d class. It is strange for me, but draw2d is GEF
[13:56:24] <maxandersen> are vpe using draw2d?
[13:58:20] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: no, for me it seems to be truly SWT bug, but I can not reproduce it in pure SWT
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[13:59:35] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: so add your 20 line snippet to the bug so it can help them
[14:00:17] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: ok, I will
[14:05:20] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: any ideas what can be implemented in the scope of https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1728 ? Different screen sizes?
[14:05:25] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBDS-1728] JBDS50_0045: [COMMIT] (Dev) HTML5 Mobile Web [Open, Major, (Requirements), yradtsevich] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1728
[14:07:33] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: different usecase exist. one is within the editor - would the templates actually honor different screen sizes ?
[14:08:27] <maxandersen> another is make it easy in eclipse to have the embedded browser show the result in differnt screen sizes while sending proper client and size metadata to the server for a decent preview?
[14:12:22] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: are you talking about somewhere documented use cases?
[14:12:36] <maxandersen> but for this specific issue I believe is more about ensuring javascript and html used for mobile dev at least doesnt make the VPE and related things blow up.
[14:13:16] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: there is the PRD that talks about mobile web
[14:14:14] <maxandersen> but mostly up to us/you to help define and do the usecases ;)
[14:15:02] <maxandersen> i.e. isnt there some guys  in minsk office that could help giv input what kind of things they could like to see ?
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[14:19:27] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: yeah, we have some mobile teams here :)
[14:19:51] <maxandersen> anyone using eclipse andor jbosst ools for dev ? :)
[14:23:07] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: JBDS is rater popular here)
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[14:29:30] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: FYI, I am going on a vacation from August 8th to September 2nd
[14:29:43] <maxandersen> yes I saw your mail.
[14:30:01] <maxandersen> will you sync with dmalorvich  before you leave ?
[14:34:02] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: ^
[14:38:18] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: strange, I did not send it to you))  Denis Maliarevich is returning on August 3rd. So we will have 3 days to sync up.
[14:38:37] <maxandersen> you added it to the google calendar
[14:39:55] <yradtsevich> did not know it is possible to subscribe to it
[14:40:59] <maxandersen> everyone on it gets notification
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[22:28:59] <maxandersen> fbricon: will you blog about the m2e updatesite change?
[22:29:08] <maxandersen> otherwise i will ;)
[22:33:11] <fbricon> maxandersen: I wanted to wait for Igor to update the m2e marketplace first. But if you insist on writing something, please knock yourself out :-)
[22:33:32] <maxandersen> ah sure - any eta on that ?
[22:34:08] <fbricon> I *think* it could be done tomorrow
[22:34:46] <fbricon> igor was already out of IRC when we released
[22:35:50] <fbricon> maxandersen: when do your vacations start?
[22:36:01] <maxandersen> tomorrow evening
[22:36:12] <fbricon> how long?
[22:39:36] <maxandersen> start with a week, comes back and then go away again aound 15th and some days/week or two from there - depends on when family arrives
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[23:04:26] <maxandersen> dgolovin-food: ping
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[23:05:00] <dgolovin> maxandersen: pong
[23:05:35] <maxandersen> so besides my blooper in xulrunner/site/pom.xml versioning - did you spot any failures since my version alignment stuff?
[23:06:15] <dgolovin> maxandersen: I got
[23:06:17] <dgolovin> Could not download artifacts from any repository osgi.bundle,org.jboss.tools.usage,1.1.0.v20110725-1533-M3
[23:06:40] <dgolovin> maxandersen: looking right now why it happens for my local build
[23:07:44] <maxandersen> in what build is that ?
[23:07:57] <maxandersen> i.e. what module gives that error?
[23:08:31] <dgolovin> maxandersen:  I'm trying to build jsf right now
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[23:18:43] <dgolovin> maxandersen: I know why it happens
[23:18:48] <maxandersen> ok?
[23:20:54] <dgolovin> maxandersen: hmm, not, I don't know yet ... I thought that because org.mozilla.xpcom references usage 1.0.0
[23:24:41] <maxandersen> I did a full build yesterday before I committed (except for the 1.9.2.218 issue - so unless there is some weird caching issue or some specific dependnecy not covered in just building trunk then i'm surprised.
[23:30:56] <dgolovin> maxandersen: it might be local problem, looking. I woner why it is looking for this particular version
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[23:47:38] <dgolovin> maxandersen: seems to be fine when it built with clean local repo
[23:59:20] <maxandersen> dgolovin: okey - so I guess it picked up a depednecny from local repo that had pointer to usage that you for some resaon did not have in there.

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