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[09:03:11] <maxandersen> fbricon: okey - finally got my laptop to boot
[09:03:24] <maxandersen> give me a few minutes to gather my stuff
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[17:38:59] <aslak> maxandersen, ping
[17:39:09] <maxandersen> pong
[17:39:25] <aslak> maxandersen, maybe tools can help here, or someone with eclipse knowledge..
[17:39:34] <maxandersen> uhoh ;)
[17:39:39] <maxandersen> depends on the question..
[17:39:42] <aslak> maxandersen, both arq and shrinkwrap has mave nsetup with source/target to 1.5
[17:40:01] <aslak> but we use 1.6 source (@Override on interfaces)
[17:40:23] <maxandersen> but thats contradictory?
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[17:40:35] <aslak> yes
[17:40:44] <maxandersen> so whats the question ?
[17:40:53] <aslak> we would love to hvae source 1.6 and target 1.5, but the compiler refuse to work with that
[17:41:02] <maxandersen> yes because that is impossible.
[17:41:20] <maxandersen> source 1.6 is not a compiler thing - its how the annotation is defined in the jdk library afaik
[17:41:25] <maxandersen> you cant have both.
[17:41:46] <maxandersen> afaik
[17:42:19] <maxandersen> not a maven/eclipse issue btw?.a javac issue.
[17:42:45] <aslak> javac: source release 1.6 requires target release 1.6
[17:42:56] <maxandersen> aslak: yes
[17:43:05] <aslak> maxandersen, i know it's not a eclipse / maven issue
[17:43:13] <maxandersen> aslak: okey ;)
[17:43:31] <maxandersen> aslak: but yes, your request makes no sense to me. its contradictory.
[17:43:32] <aslak> maxandersen, doesn't mean eclipse / maven can't have a solution..  hehe
[17:43:44] <maxandersen> well its not doable.
[17:44:00] <maxandersen> the annotaiton in java5 would puke on java6 ...
[17:44:09] <maxandersen> vice versa
[17:44:29] <aslak> sure..
[17:45:04] <maxandersen> thus you have to choose wether you want @override on your interfaces or not ;)
[17:45:09] <maxandersen> 1.6 or 1.5
[17:45:09] <aslak> but 1.6 written source code, can easly be compiled with target 1.5 on a 1.6 and 1.5 compiler as far as i know
[17:45:47] <maxandersen> how ? :)
[17:45:57] <aslak> i donno.. it does
[17:46:00] <maxandersen> you would have to use Java 5 Libraries while ocmpiling.
[17:46:03] <maxandersen> where ?
[17:46:10] <maxandersen> javac doesn't
[17:46:51] <aslak> no, i mean i can write source code following the 1.6 rules (which basically only differes on the @Override on interface) and compile that on a 1.5 vm
[17:46:52] <maxandersen> 1.6 written source that refers to @Override on interfaces would have to fail..
[17:46:59] <maxandersen> sure
[17:47:21] <maxandersen> but the annotation definition for @Override doesn't match up...
[17:47:37] <aslak> possible, but it doesn't fail ?
[17:48:03] <maxandersen> what "it" ? ;)
[17:48:17] <maxandersen> it should fail since your annotation doesnt match ...
[17:48:17] <aslak> java 1.5 compiler and 1.5 runtime
[17:49:31] <maxandersen> yes that works fine as long as you dont use @Override
[17:49:37] <aslak> but we do, and it works
[17:49:58] <aslak> no, wait..
[17:50:08] <aslak> sorry
[17:50:46] <aslak> shrinkwrap has 1.5 source and 1.5 target defined in maven, compiles with a 1.6, but runs tests on 1.5
[17:51:37] <maxandersen> yes, would actually expect the test run to fail on that?but I guess they didnt change the class byte format...
[17:52:16] <maxandersen> have you tried not setting the source at all ?
[17:52:27] <maxandersen> and just ?target 1.5 ?
[17:52:29] <maxandersen> aslak:
[17:52:30] <maxandersen> ^
[17:52:42] <aslak> @Override is only a Source annotation
[17:55:24] <aslak> maxandersen, still seems to come in as 1.5
[17:55:35] <aslak> on import that is
[17:55:53] <maxandersen> does it build on command line ?
[17:56:15] <maxandersen> first get it to build on command line - then we can look at if eclipse is not obeying what is doable ;)
[17:58:09] <maxandersen> but i don't think it will work - the compiler would have to be lenient..
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[17:59:17] <aslak> maven builds with only target set to 1.5 using a 1.6 compiler yes
[17:59:49] <maxandersen> aslak: and it doesnt get the javac error ?
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[18:00:04] <aslak> maxandersen, no error
[18:00:08] <maxandersen> hmmm
[18:00:16] <maxandersen> how the *heck* does it do that...
[18:00:30] <aslak> maxandersen, ?
[18:00:40] <aslak> @Override is a Source annotation and ignored by the compiler
[18:01:00] <maxandersen> aslak, eh? its supposed to be looked at by the compiler...
[18:01:23] <maxandersen> its there for you to get compile errors if you didnt actually override stuff
[18:01:28] <aslak> javadoc for RetentionPolicy.SOURCE : Annotations are to be discarded by the compiler.
[18:01:55] <maxandersen> yes, but @Override is to be checked by the compiler?.
[18:01:58] <aslak> yea, good point
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[18:02:48] <aslak> well.. the java 1.6 vm can understand @Override on source code, but it's not added to the Class def, so 1.5 can understand the same
[18:03:24] <aslak> Class Def = Byte code
[18:03:30] <maxandersen> hmm...
[18:03:39] <maxandersen> so it is actually an eclipse problem...
[18:03:55] <maxandersen> thought it would fail for javac too
[18:04:40] <aslak> target 1.6 will generate code that is not runnable on 1.5, it doesn't verify things like API calls
[18:05:00] <aslak> only means generate 1.5 vm competiable byte code
[18:05:00] <maxandersen> so thats not doable in eclipse...
[18:05:14] <maxandersen> classfile compatibility must be equal or greater than source compatability
[18:05:20] <aslak> yea
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[18:05:50] <maxandersen> hmmm
[18:06:47] <aslak> in eclipse it actaully verifies APIs as well if i remember correctly, javac does not
[18:07:35] <maxandersen> im surprised noone ever raised this before
[18:08:25] <maxandersen> i thought I had ttested it since we have the same problem in jbt source - but we just went through and set java source to 1.5 so it wouldn't allow @override
[18:08:31] <maxandersen> now we are on java6 so not a worry
[18:08:38] <aslak> it makes sense in some cases, like API call verification, non backward competible byte code changes etc, but..
[18:09:15] <aslak> but i assume most of java 1.6 and 1.7 language enhancments are only source sugar, not bytecode changes
[18:12:34] <maxandersen> aslak: could you do me a favor and open a bug on it on eclipse ?
[18:12:47] <maxandersen> give example that javac will compile but eclipse jdt wont allow
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[18:23:39] <aslak> maxandersen, i can try.. :)
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