[00:10:31] <maxandersen> it is ? too late.
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[10:59:34] <maxandersen> hey adietisheim
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[10:59:52] <adietisheim> max_pto: heyho
[11:00:07] <max_pto> adietisheim: im actually not here ;)
[11:00:16] <adietisheim> max_pto: yeah, noticed ;)
[11:00:33] <max_pto> adietisheim: how are things going - are things stabilizing?
[11:00:47] <adietisheim> max_pto: yup, slowly but steadily
[11:00:59] <adietisheim> max_pto: currently testing remote stuff
[11:01:03] <rawbdor> max_pto,  we're testing the rse stuff now and making sure nothing broke
[11:01:04] <max_pto> adietisheim: is that a no ?
[11:01:07] <rawbdor> its good times really
[11:01:18] <adietisheim> max_pto: nope, that's a yes :)
[11:01:34] <rawbdor> max_pto,  by the way,  JBIDE-1354 is still waiting on your UI suggestions
[11:01:37] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-1354] Runtimes should be configurable with respect to what jars to return for certain runtimes [Open, Major, (JBossAS, libmanagement), maxandersen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-1354
[11:01:37] <adietisheim> max_pto: it just takes time, but imho we did good progress
[11:01:39] <max_pto> did you or rawbdor/rawblem find reproduce the bug martin was finding yesterday?
[11:02:08] <adietisheim> max_pto: I tested I could not reproduce. martin now posted a screencast and refined it's findings. need to check'em
[11:02:21] <max_pto> rawbdor: yeah - my encounter with police yesterday pushed out some priorities ;(
[11:02:29] <mmalina> max_pto: I am now installing jbt from scratch from http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/development/indigo/ and will see if I can still reproduce
[11:02:30] <adietisheim> max_pto: huh, with police?
[11:03:00] <adietisheim> max_pto: out of gas stuff?
[11:03:06] <max_pto> adietisheim: yeah ;)
[11:03:17] <max_pto> adietisheim: will be a funny story - eventually...
[11:03:20] <adietisheim> max_pto: gosh, and here they are again. just because of out-of-gas. suckers!
[11:03:55] <adietisheim> max_pto: wonder if we will get tickets just for being sometime
[11:04:05] <max_pto> well it was great they came by and helped me out of the tunnel - it was the conversation and fine writing afterwards that sucked ;)
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[11:04:29] <adietisheim> max_pto: yeah, you get tickets for just about everything. costy?
[11:04:54] <rawbdor> max_pto,  why did you go in the tunnel with gas?
[11:05:01] <max_pto> adietisheim: they guessed it will be around 300 CHF plus "evaluation of driver license"...
[11:05:18] <max_pto> rawbdor: well if I had it would not have been a problem ;)
[11:05:28] <adietisheim> max_pto: holy cow, incredible!!!! "evaluation of driver licence?" how crazy is that... fuck
[11:05:40] <rawbdor> max is the kinda guy who stands on railroad tracks and then dodges the train
[11:05:42] <rawbdor> this time he lost :(
[11:05:49] <max_pto> rawbdor: problem is  that it was in my new old car - which apparently has zero indicators/warning of low fuel...
[11:05:58] <rawbdor> hrmmmm
[11:06:20] <adietisheim> rawbdor: max_pto: no really, incredible. you get a ticket because you get out of gas...
[11:06:27] <max_pto> rawbdor: and I was in a hurry and didnt realize and of course out of a 20 km ride with about 1 km tunnel it ran dry in the most expensive part.
[11:06:34] <adietisheim> rawbdor: f**k em all, really. that makes abs. no sense
[11:07:01] <rawbdor> you mean you didn't buy the new cd / dvd / iphone? you get a ticket for that
[11:07:13] <max_pto> adietisheim: no - I get a ticket for being stupid/careless enough to drive into a tunnel without gas on the car and without a safe-lane...
[11:07:28] <adietisheim> rawbdor: yeah, looks like they ticket you for about everything, breating, eating, being
[11:07:32] <rawbdor> you should know hte law citizen!  it's on our website!   "But the website only has MS Word docs and I use linux"  - TOO bad! You get a ticket for not buying microsoft!
[11:07:36] <max_pto> so its all kinda fair - just a really bad monday ;)
[11:07:55] <adietisheim> max_pto: well, gosh, that can happen... i mean who did not do stupid things.. did not hurt anybody.. f**k
[11:08:01] <max_pto> brb - phone.
[11:15:46] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  RSEBehaviourDelegate
[11:15:53] <rawbdor> the getShutdownCommand only returns the args
[11:15:53] <adietisheim> rawbdor: ?
[11:15:56] <rawbdor> it doesn't return any command
[11:16:15] <adietisheim> rawbdor: bug then. can you please file?
[11:16:19] <rawbdor> like java -jar /opt/jboss-as6/bin/shutdown.jar  {args}
[11:17:44] <adietisheim> rawbdor: btw. is it correct that remote launch args are referring to the args that were set by the local launch?
[11:17:55] <adietisheim> rawbdor: shouldn't it build'em on their own?
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[11:18:42] <adietisheim> rawbdor: since those 2 would eventually get show only if the adapter is set to local/remote (which they're not for now)
[11:18:45] <adietisheim> rawbdor: ?
[11:19:16] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  um... just tried to start up and also got a null command
[11:19:20] <rawbdor> RSEJBossStartLaunchDelegate
[11:19:26] <rawbdor> this doesn't seem to work at all ;)
[11:19:31] <adietisheim> rawbdor: yup, definitely a bug. please file
[11:19:36] <adietisheim> rawbdor: but as7 does
[11:19:54] <adietisheim> rawbdor: I guess it was broken at some time
[11:20:15] <adietisheim> rawbdor: ^?
[11:22:21] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  still debugging. will try to fix
[11:25:00] <max_pto> rawbdor: adietisheim: did you guys see the invitte for tomorrow about openshift w/Burr?
[11:25:27] <adietisheim> max_pto: yup, will get there finally
[11:27:00] <max_pto> sounds good ;)
[11:28:02] <max_pto> rawbdor: ?
[11:28:03] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  got an UnsupportedOperationException in AbstractStartLaunchConfigurator.configure
[11:28:21] <rawbdor> max_pto,  didnt check the mail yet today, trying to test this stuff
[11:28:41] <adietisheim> rawbdor: ??? sounds like you ended up in a mock from the tests
[11:29:14] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  no... still tracing
[11:29:51] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  LocalJBossStartLaunchConfigurator
[11:30:02] <rawbdor> currentClasspath.add(runJarEntry) is being performed on a List<String>
[11:30:12] <rawbdor> not all type List<String> have a supported add() method
[11:30:21] <rawbdor> arraylist does, but some other impl's do not
[11:30:53] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  the class EmptyList  does not
[11:31:05] <rawbdor> and the default value for that list is Collections.EMPTY_LIST if the value isn't set yet
[11:33:35] <rawbdor> fixed it by changing the default to a new arraylist instead
[11:36:09] <max_pto> thats sad - immutable contracts are normally simpler-safer(says i without having no idea what api we are takling about ,)
[11:43:16] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  no... remote launch should never really be using the args from local
[11:43:21] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  because they have different home directories
[11:43:42] <rawbdor> in fact an attempt to launch right now has an error because it passes in -Djboss.server.base.url=file:/some/local/runtime/path
[11:44:35] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  in the old code it never did that
[11:44:40] <rawbdor> it always rebuilt the args from scratch
[11:44:57] <rawbdor> there was a utility method where it would rebuild the args if you gave it a server home
[11:45:02] <rawbdor> then that could be used by local or remote
[11:45:12] <rawbdor> just pass in different server homes
[11:45:25] <rawbdor> but you seem to have re-implemented it by having it draw from the local args, which is a huge error
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[11:55:29] <adietisheim> rawbdor: hum, not following you. Afaik the code gets the default args from the runtime. and the runtime takes the location which then points to the local server home
[11:57:09] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  RSEJBossStartLaunchDelegate pulls the vm args nad start args from the launch config
[11:57:13] <rawbdor> it pulls them from the local args
[11:57:19] <rawbdor> 		String currentArgs = config.getAttribute(IJavaLaunchConfigurationConstants.ATTR_PROGRAM_ARGUMENTS, ""); //$NON-NLS-1$
[11:57:19] <rawbdor> 		String currentVMArgs = config.getAttribute(IJavaLaunchConfigurationConstants.ATTR_VM_ARGUMENTS, ""); //$NON-NLS-1$
[11:57:40] <rawbdor> o then it overwrites some. hmm
[11:57:40] <rawbdor> sec
[11:57:53] <adietisheim> rawbdor: yeah, that's why I asked you if it was correct that rse launch config took those from the local one and did not build them on his own
[12:03:27] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  its ok to take the args and replace the folders
[12:03:39] <adietisheim> rawbdor: ok
[12:03:39] <rawbdor> but its probably better to build them on their own
[12:03:46] <adietisheim> rawbdor: that's what I thought
[12:03:47] <rawbdor> its probably best to have one utility method that builds them
[12:03:53] <rawbdor> and you pass in a server home
[12:06:29] <adietisheim> rawbdor: shouldn't the runtime get the remote home when you switch the editor from local to remote? then no additional code would be needed
[12:07:09] <rawbdor> adietisheim, args are in the runtime. the runtime does not know what servers it is used in
[12:07:13] <rawbdor> local vs rse is stored in the server
[12:07:16] <rawbdor> servers have a ref to the runtime
[12:07:20] <rawbdor> runtimes do not have a ref to the server
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[12:07:36] <rawbdor> also a runtime can be used in multiple servers. One might be local, one might be rse, etc.  then the runtime would reply what exactly?
[12:07:59] <adietisheim> rawbdor: the runtime location is used to build the default args (vm, program etc.)
[12:08:16] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  yes, and the rse runtime location is used to build the default rse args
[12:08:17] <adietisheim> rawbdor: if that location would point to the rse home seems like things would work ok
[12:08:33] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  the runtime cannot point to the rse home since hte runtime does not know what servers it is used in
[12:08:37] <rawbdor> and the rse home is stored in a server
[12:08:37] <adietisheim> rawbdor: no replacement would have to happen
[12:08:51] <rawbdor> Runtime1 is the runtime for Server1 and Server2.  Server1 is local. Server2 is rse.
[12:08:58] <rawbdor> the runtime is a local-only construct
[12:09:05] <adietisheim> rawbdor: does not need to. should be sufficient to set the runtime location when you switch the adapter from lcoal/remote
[12:09:29] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  except then all projects using runtime1's "location" for classpath will fail
[12:09:30] <adietisheim> rawbdor: ah, so the same runtime could be used in several servers which then could be local, remote etc.
[12:09:33] <adietisheim> rawbdor: ok, got it
[12:09:35] <rawbdor> yes
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[12:10:25] <adietisheim> rawbdor: so that would mean that we should not use the runtime location but the server location
[12:10:34] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  anyway there is no "additional" code. you just "move" the code to a utility method and have the runtime method call the utility method with the local home passed in
[12:10:38] <max_pto> fun to see adietisheim discovering the extra layer of indirection wtp servers has?. eventually one appreciates it since its actually awesome ;)
[12:11:11] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  local servers do not have a server home. They use the runtime's server home ;)
[12:11:19] <adietisheim> rawbdor: that's the point
[12:11:21] <rawbdor> rse servers use a custom attribute stored in the IServer object
[12:13:33] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  we could just replace 	public String getDefaultRunVMArgs()  with 	public String getDefaultRunVMArgs(String home)
[12:14:10] <rawbdor> in LocalJBossServerRuntime
[12:14:22] <adietisheim> rawbdor: yup, good alternative
[12:14:52] <adietisheim> rawbdor: have to go for lunch. will be back right afterwards
[12:14:55] <rawbdor> anyway lets do that later
[12:14:59] <rawbdor> for now i'll just try to fix these cmd args
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[14:51:35] <adietisheim> ping maxandersen
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[14:51:56] <fbricon1> ping maxandersen (me too)
[14:52:21] <maxandersen> i'm not here ;)
[14:52:25] <maxandersen> fbricon1: adietisheim: wassup?
[14:52:36] <adietisheim> maxandersen: did you ever run as7 on ec2=
[14:52:39] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ?
[14:53:23] <maxandersen> adietisheim: once
[14:53:31] <maxandersen> beta3 or maybe alpha1 ;)
[14:53:38] <maxandersen> why?
[14:53:46] <maxandersen> and then of course via openshift express
[14:53:53] <adietisheim> maxandersen: i can it make run but somehow cannot reach its 8080 (checked firewall, it's opened). wondering what I miss
[14:54:06] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ssh works, ping works
[14:54:20] <maxandersen> adietisheim: got the address ?
[14:54:26] <adietisheim> maxandersen: sure, sec
[14:54:53] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ec2-107-20-15-112.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[14:56:17] <maxandersen> adietisheim: the firewall isn't open is my best guess ;)
[14:56:34] <maxandersen> adietisheim: send me your key and I can go look?
[14:56:36] <adietisheim> maxandersen: hum, weird, i bet i see it opened in the firewall
[14:56:39] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ok
[14:56:49] <fbricon1> maxandersen: spending an awful lot of time trying to add autocompletion to my profile selection for poor results so far. I have a shitload of other JIRAs to process and I only have 4 weeks left (before holidays). Not sure it's wise to keep wasting time on that
[14:57:19] <maxandersen> fbricon1: no - as I (think?) I wrote - autocompletion is extra sugar
[14:57:47] <maxandersen> fbricon1: but having a text field showing what the table actually mean would be a good thing.
[14:57:59] <maxandersen> fbricon1: and it could even be read only
[14:58:15] <fbricon1> ok I can do that
[14:58:56] <maxandersen> fbricon1: so just put the autocomplete into a separate jira on 3.3.x ;)
[14:59:09] <fbricon1> multiple project selection looks good to me so far
[15:00:18] <adietisheim> maxandersen: afaik firewall's open: http://yfrog.com/kff1mp
[15:00:35] <maxandersen> coolio fbricon1
[15:00:58] <adietisheim> maxandersen: and mgmt port also. but I cannot reach both of them
[15:01:12] <adietisheim> maxandersen: definitely missing something, but no clue what
[15:01:13] <maxandersen> adietisheim: what is that 0-65535 about?
[15:01:13] <fbricon1> maxandersen:  you can use a nigthly build while you're PTOing :-)
[15:01:22] <adietisheim> maxandersen: all ports opened afaik
[15:01:29] <maxandersen> fbricon1: i'm using the jira nightly build at the moment ;(
[15:01:40] <maxandersen> adietisheim: i think I know what it is?can you grant me access?
[15:01:50] <maxandersen> and ill try it out.
[15:01:56] <adietisheim> maxandersen: sure, to the console?
[15:02:07] <maxandersen> adietisheim: yes just need to be able to log in
[15:02:18] <adietisheim> maxandersen: I can get into the console by ssh
[15:02:21] <maxandersen> i got an andrekey.pem...
[15:02:29] <adietisheim> maxandersen: you should be able to log in using ec2-user
[15:02:40] <adietisheim> maxandersen: sudo bash to get root
[15:03:08] <adietisheim> maxandersen: it's the image we got for deltacloud that has as6 installed. I downloaded as7 and ran it
[15:03:53] <maxandersen> adietisheim: permission denied. need updated key
[15:03:59] <adietisheim> maxandersen: hum, weird
[15:04:06] <adietisheim> maxandersen: afaik I sent you key.pem
[15:04:34] <maxandersen> adietisheim:
[15:04:40] <maxandersen> not received it..where to ?
[15:04:49] <adietisheim> maxandersen: afaik it downloads to your home?
[15:04:56] <maxandersen> ?
[15:04:58] <maxandersen> "it" ?
[15:05:03] <adietisheim> maxandersen: skype
[15:05:23] <maxandersen> adietisheim: ah didnt spot that ;)
[15:05:29] <maxandersen> have it on "silent" while on pto ;)
[15:05:35] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ah, ok :)
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[15:06:39] <maxandersen> adietisheim: is as7 already running or?
[15:06:50] <adietisheim> maxandersen: yup.. ps ax | grep java
[15:07:02] <maxandersen> adietisheim: can you kill it?
[15:07:07] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ok
[15:07:14] <adietisheim> maxandersen: killed
[15:07:24] <adietisheim> maxandersen: wrong startup params?
[15:08:34] <maxandersen> adietisheim: the problem is most likely its binding to the wrong interface
[15:09:00] <adietisheim> maxandersen: guessed something like this.
[15:09:05] <adietisheim> maxandersen: but how wrong?
[15:09:43] <maxandersen> adietisheim: its binding to the local one most likely or the internal ip for ec2 ..not the public one
[15:10:20] <adietisheim> maxandersen: hm, ok. but i spotted 0.0.0.0 in netstat. isn't that right?
[15:10:33] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ah, the domain name
[15:11:03] <maxandersen> adietisheim: see https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/AS7/Interfaces+and+ports
[15:11:17] <maxandersen> and this is what its doing by default:  <interfaces>
[15:11:17] <maxandersen>         <interface name="management">
[15:11:17] <maxandersen>             <inet-address value="127.0.0.1"/>
[15:11:17] <maxandersen>         </interface>
[15:11:17] <maxandersen>         <interface name="public">
[15:11:18] <maxandersen>             <inet-address value="127.0.0.1"/>
[15:11:18] <maxandersen>         </interface>
[15:11:19] <maxandersen>     </interfaces>
[15:11:47] <adietisheim> maxandersen: great! i bet this helps
[15:12:03] <adietisheim> maxandersen: thanks! so I guess it's a config issue. launch command should be fine
[15:14:26] <maxandersen> adietisheim: have you changed the config?
[15:14:38] <adietisheim> maxandersen: just did it, launching it in a sec
[15:14:41] <maxandersen> im trying to fix it just to see if i guessed right (and they fixed another bug)
[15:14:53] <adietisheim> maxandersen: i already changed standalone.xml
[15:15:23] <maxandersen> adietisheim: ah you changed to the same I wanted to try ;)
[15:15:33] <maxandersen> sand it works ;)
[15:15:40] <adietisheim> maxandersen: great!!!! :)
[15:15:49] <adietisheim> maxandersen: i was really wondering wtf..
[15:16:42] <maxandersen> adietisheim: whoops found bug
[15:16:51] <maxandersen> the console stuff doesn't work...
[15:16:59] <adietisheim> maxandersen: it was me trying to open up all ports
[15:17:15] <maxandersen> no it redirects to http://0.0.0.0:9990/console which is wrong ;)
[15:17:18] <adietisheim> maxandersen: yup, the console is not opened yet/bound i guess
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[15:18:50] <adietisheim> maxandersen: and for some reason it substitutes the following url http://ec2-107-20-15-112.compute-1.amazonaws.com:9990/console to this: http://ec2-107-20-15-112.compute-1.amazonaws.com/:9990/console
[15:19:06] <maxandersen> eh?
[15:19:18] <maxandersen> I got 0.0.0.0:9990/console
[15:23:38] <adietisheim> maxandersen: I replaced 0.0.0.0 by the ec2 public name and tried to access
[15:23:57] <maxandersen> yeah so might not be open...
[15:24:12] <adietisheim> maxandersen: but the standalone.xml seems like setting it up correctly:
[15:24:12] <maxandersen> adietisheim: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-1341 comment if you see something else
[15:24:16] <jbott> Bug: [AS7-1341] Link to console on startup page fails when running in EC2/limited network with any-address [Open, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-1341
[15:24:16] <adietisheim> maxandersen: <management-interfaces>
[15:24:17] <adietisheim>             <native-interface interface="management" port="9999"/>
[15:24:17] <adietisheim>             <http-interface interface="management" port="9990"/>
[15:24:17] <adietisheim>         </management-interfaces>
[15:24:23] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ok
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[15:35:29] <maxandersen> gonna block this ;)
[15:35:58] <maxandersen> blog i mean ;)
[15:38:00] <maxandersen> adietisheim: did you manage to open the management console ?
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[15:44:48] <maxandersen> adietisheim: whats the ami id you are using?
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[15:49:34] <Yamaneko> Hi
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[15:50:08] <maxandersen> hi Yamaneko
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[15:50:15] <adietisheim> maxandersen: nope, could not open it
[15:50:20] <Yamaneko> Hi
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[15:50:23] <maxandersen> maxandersen: what id ?
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[15:50:36] <adietisheim> maxandersen: i use the following ami: ami-ca51a1a3
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[15:50:48] <adietisheim> maxandersen: the old as6 image, installed as7 on top
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[15:51:33] <adietisheim> maxandersen: a bit annoying to have to install as7 each time I launch a new instance, but i have no host to test against. rse loopback to my own machine has it's traps
[15:52:01] <maxandersen> adietisheim: ask mgoldmann if he has a new one  with as7 prefilled ;)
[15:52:09] <Yamaneko> I'm seeking for some help about jboss 4.2.2.GA behind a firewall. I followed a tutorial but I'm still have some issues
[15:52:18] <adietisheim> maxandersen: already asked, has none so far, but plans do build one
[15:52:40] <maxandersen> Yamaneko: okey - have you tried #jboss channel?
[15:53:05] <Yamaneko> When I joined #jboss channel, I can't "speak"
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[15:53:25] <maxandersen> Yamaneko: because you have not registered your nick
[15:53:40] <Yamaneko> Maybe I'm not a good IRC user :p
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[15:57:21] <maxandersen> msg chanserv help Yamaneko ;)
[15:58:32] <Yamaneko> ?
[15:59:27] <Yamaneko> oh ok
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[16:03:09] <Yamaneko> Thank you for help, I'm registered now but I still can't talk :p
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[16:10:47] <maxandersen> Yamaneko: exit the channel and join again
[16:11:23] <maxandersen> adietisheim: okey - uploading as7 final is slow...
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[16:16:23] <adietisheim> maxandersen: hum, i downloaded it by wget within the image ;)
[16:16:47] <maxandersen> adietisheim: yeah doing that now too
[16:17:23] <adietisheim> maxandersen: btw. a usability expert that works for puzzle asked me if we might be interested in free consulting (they're looking for a reference). I told him that this might be interesting for us for the as adapter editor
[16:17:54] <adietisheim> maxandersen: he would create some suggestions to improve it.
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[16:17:54] <Yamaneko> maxandersen: I'm sorry but disconnect didn't solve the issue, the chan return "[16:19] #jboss Cannot send to channel"
[16:19:44] <maxandersen> adietisheim: okey - hope he knows which parts we can't change ? :)
[16:20:19] <adietisheim> maxandersen: told him that there were constaints. I suggested him to have a look and I'll talk to him later by skype so that he gets an idea
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[16:22:51] <maxandersen> sure
[16:23:24] <maxandersen> adietisheim: we might have another task for something new ground implementation that would be interesting...
[16:23:39] <adietisheim> maxandersen: oh, I guess even better. what is it?
[16:23:51] <Yamaneko> sorry for the spam I didn't saw the registration email, it's ok now thx :)
[16:24:31] <maxandersen> adietisheim: working on dashboard concept to provide news from jboss.org, access to 3rdparty plugin installations and project templates.
[16:25:13] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ok, will suggest him that. any screenshot I can preview to get an idea?
[16:25:34] <maxandersen> adietisheim: nope - no screenshots all new ;)
[16:25:42] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ok
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[17:26:54] <maxandersen> adietisheim: sent you a pdf - please let me know if it works fro you when you have time ;) should be quick
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[23:08:39] <gastaldi> hey Folks !!!
[23:08:56] <gastaldi> Why m2eclipse ignores my dependencies when deploying on JBoss AS7 ?
[23:40:59] <gastaldi> anyone used this feature ?
[23:42:37] <Snjeza> gastaldi: what scope do you use in your maven dependencies?
[23:43:26] <gastaldi> hummm Wait, I think it worked when I used "Update Project Configuration"
[23:43:42] <gastaldi> I found this googling: http://www.mkyong.com/maven/eclipse-web-deployment-assembly-maven-dependencies-issue/
[23:44:22] <gastaldi> yup, there they are ! :)
[23:44:26] <gastaldi> cool





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