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[14:41:47] *** jwulf has quit IRC [14:42:06] <maxandersen> rawbdor: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5742 explicitly says exetuion environments is supported since 3.1.0.CR2... [14:42:10] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-5742] Add the notion of execution environments to servers and runtimes [Resolved, Critical, (JBossAS), rob.stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5742 [14:42:20] <maxandersen> rawbdor: which bug is rigth/wrong ? [14:43:07] <maxandersen> ooh - so it only has it for its default initialization ?! ah freaking that sucks ... [14:43:43] <maxandersen> how does that even work ? sounds even harder to implement than just use the default JDT support for execution environment ? [14:50:20] <rawbdor> maxandersen, huh? [14:50:33] <rawbdor> maxandersen, most AS servers have a 1:1 mapping with required execution environments [14:50:44] <maxandersen> rawbdor: what does that mean ? [14:51:00] <rawbdor> maxandersen, it means you cannot run as7 in a java 4 exec environment [14:51:01] <maxandersen> rawbdor: it sounds to me like it hardcodes the JRE used at server creation time. [14:51:21] <maxandersen> rawbdor: no, but I can run it with Java 6 exec env and only have Java 7 installed and it should be fine. [14:51:29] <rawbdor> maxandersen, exactly [14:51:35] <maxandersen> rawbdor: if i install java 6 then it gets set to java 6 on launch [14:52:12] <rawbdor> so if you have an as6 server, which requires as as6 exec environment, the server gets hardcoded a default exec environment of java 6. Then the combo in the server creation wizarcd lists all JRE's that fit that exec environment [14:52:13] *** danflo has quit IRC [14:52:26] <rawbdor> then when you finish the wizard, it saves that jre as the jre it should always use [14:52:37] <rawbdor> if you delete that jre, it will fall back to the next jre that fits the exec environment [14:53:10] <fbricon> maxandersen: http://imagebin.org/163621 [14:53:11] <maxandersen> rawbdor: weird - why doesn't it just use the default JDT exec env variable and lookup at launch ? [14:53:21] <rawbdor> so if you have a workspace with two jre's in it, a java 6 and a java 7, when you create hte server, it gets hard-coded a default exec environment of 6-or-above. Then the wizard shows you a combo. You can select hte as6 or as7 combo [14:53:40] <rawbdor> maxandersen, a large part was the keep UI stable with past versions [14:53:43] <maxandersen> fbricon: multiprojects ? nice [14:53:46] <rawbdor> another large part was to keep api stable with previous versions [14:54:09] <maxandersen> fbricon: what does "filled out" checkbox mean? [14:54:16] <fbricon> maxandersen: yeah what you see is the common profiles for all selected projects [14:54:40] <rawbdor> maxandersen, also sometimes users don't just want an "execution environment" declared. Sometimes they have 5 jre's that fit the exec environment, but want to require one jre is used for this server alwyas [14:54:42] <fbricon> maxandersen: some projects have different activation settings for this profile [14:54:47] <maxandersen> rawbdor: did we ever not use normal jdt launch configs? [14:54:49] *** danflo has joined #jbosstools [14:55:09] <maxandersen> rawbdor: yes - normal JDT launches has config variables for both. [14:55:15] <rawbdor> maxandersen, all of our launch configs are jdt launch configs with additional flags and api's [14:55:28] <rawbdor> the wtp framework mandates a certain workflow for us [14:55:31] <maxandersen> rawbdor: thus I dont see how this can affect API much. [14:55:33] <fbricon> maxandersen: meaning one project can have it activated by default, but other projects don't [14:56:15] <rawbdor> maxandersen, we do not use the default exec environment because someone using a workspace with a default exec environment of as4 and running an as7 server should not be allowed to run with a jre4 [14:56:29] <rawbdor> different app servers require their own custom exec environment which is tied to the server [14:56:44] <rawbdor> forcing the server to use the workspace's default exec environment is nonsensical and will break many users [14:56:53] <maxandersen> rawbdor: im not saying use the jdt default execution env - im talking about the launch configs to use the JDT supported variables for exec environments. [14:57:24] <rawbdor> maxandersen, because sometimes hte users don't just want their launch config to use the jdt-supported variables for exec environments [14:57:31] <rawbdor> they want to ensure their server runs with a specific jre [14:57:32] <maxandersen> rawbdor: thus in my worldview it would be that old servers have their JRE specifically set and any future ones get their exec env set. [14:57:36] <rawbdor> not any jre that fits the exec environment [14:58:07] <maxandersen> rawbdor: yes I know thats why it says Exec Env OR JRE ?all eclipse launch Java UI exposes that afair. [14:58:44] <rawbdor> maxandersen, not sure what exactly you're asking me to change [14:58:53] <rawbdor> seriously... no idea [14:58:56] <maxandersen> rawbdor: dont set specific JRE [14:59:02] <maxandersen> rawbdor: just set default exec env [14:59:06] <rawbdor> maxandersen, some users want to set the jre [14:59:09] <rawbdor> as a recent user demanded [14:59:21] <maxandersen> rawbdor: yes thats an *option* shouldn't be forced. [14:59:37] <rawbdor> maxandersen, not sure what's functionally different honestly [14:59:44] <rawbdor> really not sure what the difference is [15:00:03] <rawbdor> currently it sets both the exec environment and hte jre. if hte jre disappears, it finds the next jre in the same exec environment [15:00:11] <maxandersen> rawbdor: exec env Java 6 set - if I have Java 7 installed only, it uses Java 7, if I then install Java 6 and thus have both Java 7 and Java 6 it uses Java 6. [15:00:23] <maxandersen> no need to set JRE unless user explciitly asked for it [15:00:37] <rawbdor> maxandersen, is this critical? [15:00:39] <maxandersen> if you set JRE 7 fixed then if I install Java 6 it will stay on Java 7 [15:00:46] <maxandersen> rawbdor: its aobut being consistent with rest of eclipse [15:01:01] <rawbdor> maxandersen, or being consistant with other server adapters [15:01:11] <maxandersen> rawbdor: we had this same discussion back then - I didnt realized it fixed/hardcoded the JRE (since there is no reason for that) [15:01:40] <rawbdor> maxandersen, the jre was always hardcoded. from the beginning. this fix ensured that an exec environment was set and if the previously-hardcoded jre disappeared, another would be selectable [15:01:52] <rawbdor> it also ensured the combo that allows you to select a jre ONLY allows you to select jre's that fit the exec environment [15:02:00] <maxandersen> rawbdor: if they dont do it yet then that is just a sign of them not updating to what eclipse 3.4 or was it 3.5 started to provide ;) [15:04:51] <maxandersen> rawbdor: its probably "fine" - just doesn't grok why it forces a JRE by default. [15:05:01] *** kabir_lunch is now known as kkhan [15:06:41] <rawbdor> maxandersen, some things in life don't make sense. ;) [15:06:52] <maxandersen> rawbdor: yeah tomcat has same broken old age ui [15:07:01] <maxandersen> broken ~= limited [15:07:52] *** myarboro has joined #jbosstools [15:08:42] <maxandersen> rawbdor: hmm thats new to me?.tomcat put their launch config visible under run configs [15:09:13] <maxandersen> and running it actually starts tomcat in the server ui [15:09:15] <maxandersen> thats sweet [15:09:47] *** danflo has quit IRC [15:09:55] *** danflo has joined #jbosstools [15:17:01] *** bfitzpat has joined #jbosstools [15:17:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o bfitzpat [15:24:17] *** maxandersen has quit IRC [15:25:32] *** kainos has joined #jbosstools [15:29:14] *** maxandersen has joined #jbosstools [15:29:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o maxandersen [15:30:23] *** maxandersen has quit IRC [15:30:42] *** maxandersen has joined #jbosstools [15:30:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o maxandersen [15:33:17] *** tfennelly has quit IRC [15:48:08] *** mriet has joined #jbosstools [15:49:52] *** tfennelly has joined #jbosstools [15:49:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tfennelly [15:51:16] *** koentsje has joined #jbosstools [16:05:17] *** dgeraskov has quit IRC [16:06:17] <rawbdor> maxandersen, seems we're a lot closer to what you want re: exec environment than we thought [16:06:33] *** Snjeza has joined #jbosstools [16:06:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Snjeza [16:06:36] <rawbdor> the new runtime wizard has an option in the combo "Default JRE for (exec environment) [16:06:56] <rawbdor> probably just need a few very very tiny changes to clean it up and ensure what goes on [16:08:22] <maxandersen> rawbdor: the ui needed (as I see it) is something like what is on the JRE tab on a normal launch config - excluding the workspace default if that does not paply cleanly?) [16:08:54] <rawbdor> maxandersen, um what? [16:09:58] <rawbdor> maxandersen, a jboss 7 has an exec environment of java 6. if there are 3 possible jre's installed, the UI for new runtime shows 4 items. the first item is "Default JRE for JavaSE-1.4" [16:10:09] <rawbdor> or 1-6 [16:10:11] <rawbdor> whatever [16:10:11] <rawbdor> heh [16:10:31] <rawbdor> the jre tab on a regular java launch has 3 options. one for project exec environment which is not relevant to servers at all [16:10:44] <rawbdor> the second is exec environment (which is what this "Default JRE for {exec_env}" means [16:10:49] <rawbdor> and the third is "Alternate JRE" [16:10:54] <rawbdor> we ignore the first option since it does not apply [16:11:00] <rawbdor> and we put option 2 and 3 into one combo [16:12:12] <maxandersen> so exec env does *not* hardcode the JRE to what it matches at the time of the UI ? [16:12:18] <maxandersen> that's the main differentiator... [16:13:38] <maxandersen> fbricon: remind me again how I get m2eclipse to SHUT THE FUCK UP in my console output ? :) [16:13:47] * maxandersen can you sense my annoyance :) [16:15:17] <rawbdor> maxandersen, IF you choose a jre in the runtime creation wizard, it is hard-coded [16:15:31] <rawbdor> if you leave it on the "Default JRE for {exec_env}" then it uses the exec_env's default jre at time of launch [16:15:49] <maxandersen> rawbdor: so there IS a UI to select exec_env ;) [16:16:00] <maxandersen> rawbdor: where do I btw. set this once server is created? [16:16:00] <rawbdor> maxandersen, um... yes its the default option in the new runtime wizard [16:16:06] <rawbdor> maxandersen, its set on the runtime [16:16:08] <rawbdor> not on the server [16:16:14] <maxandersen> rawbdor: ah yes [16:16:16] <maxandersen> got ya [16:18:21] <fbricon> maxandersen: remove the logging feature? [16:18:45] *** mriet has quit IRC [16:19:07] *** maxandersen has quit IRC [16:21:28] *** maxandersen has joined #jbosstools [16:21:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o maxandersen [16:49:05] *** ljungman has quit IRC [16:51:36] <maxandersen> aslak: that "small" UI change made a big difference IMO for JBIDE-8548; glad you still liked it ;) [16:51:39] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-8548] Support auto discovery of remote processes for debugging [Open, Major, (JBossAS), snjeza] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8548 [16:53:55] <aslak> maxandersen, i was a bit skeptical at first, but it seems to work out [16:54:15] <aslak> maxandersen, haven't really gotten to test it full scale with multi remotes etc yet, but the basics work [16:55:21] <maxandersen> aslak: Im trying to convince Snjeza we don't need custom launch configs for this - I think once we have the automatic "match search" I've suggested then it will be a nice natural fit on top of eclipse instead of a "bulk addon". [16:56:11] <fbricon> maxandersen: should we close https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9053?focusedCommentId=12614651&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-12614651 ? [16:56:22] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9053] seam-registration examle from wolf test repo is incorrectly deployed [Open, Major, (maven), fbricon] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9053 [16:56:44] <maxandersen> fbricon: assign it to me - I need to make wolf/eap guys aware of this limitation [16:56:59] *** koentsje has quit IRC [16:57:08] <maxandersen> fbricon: so how do we avoid this problem ? don't use finalName ? [16:57:14] <maxandersen> fbricon: for multipprojects [16:59:05] <fbricon> maxandersen: for now, artifactId / finalName need to stay consistent [16:59:40] <fbricon> maxandersen: I believe we can add a special treatment for JBoss servers, where setting the deployed name is possible [16:59:44] <maxandersen> fbricon: could write a small snippet on the jira explaining it and the "good" way vs bad way kinda thing ? so we have something to point to. [17:00:00] <maxandersen> fbricon: yes thats a feature enhancement ;) [17:00:18] <maxandersen> fbricon: but for "portable" ones I guess we need this "good practice" for mvn projects... [17:00:20] <fbricon> maxandersen: my comment isn't enough? [17:01:07] <maxandersen> fbricon: well something that isn't this example specific. [17:01:44] <maxandersen> fbricon: hmm - the webresource filtering mentioned in step 4 is a different issue right? [17:02:03] <fbricon> maxandersen: it's one way to tackle the issue [17:04:17] <fbricon> maxandersen: we could imagine a solution where a parent pom has a m2e activted profile, defines a earDeployedName property, and with resource filtering working, just use ${ earDeployedName} where needed [17:08:52] *** gbrown_ has quit IRC [17:10:02] <Snjeza> maxandersen: aslak:solving JBIDE-9309 - "Easily adding full JBoss AS source" will help when testing multi remotes. I am going to fix the jira so that a user will be able to add easily jboss as source, glassfish source... [17:10:06] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-9309] Easily adding full JBoss AS source [Open, Major, (JBossAS), snjeza] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9309 [17:10:58] <maxandersen> Snjeza: "add easily" ? so one would have to add it and not just about looking in jar for GAV's to find source in mvn repo ? [17:13:49] <rawbdor> maxandersen, ping you free for a minute to try to replicate a bug? [17:14:52] <maxandersen> rawbdor: i'm available for a bugreplication [17:15:36] *** mmalina has quit IRC [17:15:48] <rawbdor> maxandersen, create EAP 5.1 server in rse mode directly, check 2nd page of server editor, tell me which radio is selected [17:15:54] <rawbdor> JBIDE-9334 [17:15:58] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9334] Cannot publish to remote EAP 5.1 [Open, Major, (JBossAS), rob.stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9334 [17:16:32] <maxandersen> rawbdor: which version? [17:16:45] <maxandersen> rawbdor: if latest trunk ?.gonna take a while [17:17:00] <maxandersen> rawbdor: if latest nightly - I can do that?takes a shorter while [17:17:09] <maxandersen> im on m2 right now [17:17:28] <rawbdor> maxandersen, yeah trunk or latest nightly [17:17:38] *** dpalmer has quit IRC [17:17:56] <Snjeza> maxandersen: yes. I am going to create predefined sources (jboss as 7, for instance) that would be able to be added by a single step. [17:18:38] <maxandersen> Snjeza: and the sources would be coming from where? [17:19:16] <Snjeza> maxandersen: from maven repo. [17:19:29] <maxandersen> Snjeza: ..and why is predefined sources better than just dynamically fetch them based on the jar manifest? [17:19:41] <maxandersen> Snjeza: via a sourcepath compute lookup ? [17:22:44] <Snjeza> maxandersen: I would add both of the posibilities: adding a source dynamically and adding predefined attachments for some servers (jboss as 7, jboss as 6, glassfish 3.0, 3.1...). [17:23:42] <maxandersen> Snjeza: but how will you do that for as7 and as6 ? their classpath's are dynamic... [17:23:47] <maxandersen> or at least can/will be. [17:24:21] <maxandersen> Snjeza: btw. is that a source path or simply a "iterate over the current jars in project and set the source path apropriatly" ? [17:25:07] <Snjeza> maxandersen: I mean jboss as source, not the applications running on jboss as. [17:25:24] <maxandersen> Snjeza: yes I know [17:25:30] <maxandersen> Snjeza: thats also what im talking about. [17:27:06] *** kainos has quit IRC [17:27:21] <fbricon> maxandersen: igor wants us to produce m2e-wtp releases [17:28:33] <maxandersen> fbricon: under sonatype's name ? :) [17:28:43] <maxandersen> fbricon: so remind me what that entails? [17:29:36] <maxandersen> rawbdor: still updating to latest trunk?any minute now [17:29:50] <rawbdor> maxandersen, ok [17:29:51] <fbricon> maxandersen: we need to give igor the update site location of m2e-wtp release [17:30:22] <maxandersen> fbricon: oh I thought we already did that part... [17:30:26] *** mmalina has joined #jbosstools [17:30:33] <fbricon> maxandersen: no [17:30:35] <maxandersen> fbricon: does that update site have to be permanent or does he copy it. [17:31:11] <Snjeza> maxandersen: jboss as 7.0.0final has strictly determined sources (jboss-modules version x, jboss-vfs version y, shrinkwrap-api z ...). I mean these sources, not the sources will be added by jboss as classloader. [17:33:27] <fbricon> maxandersen: rereading the mails, it's not undefined. But igor kinda agreed we could send him a zipped update site [17:33:52] <maxandersen> rawbdor: http://screencast.com/t/Pb4scHbX45 and http://screencast.com/t/zfQB4AxE42e9 [17:34:43] <maxandersen> fbricon: zipped updatesite would be great if its still under their name - I don't want to promise stable sites for them if its not clearly our name ?.i.e. if something fail the wrong will be acused ;) [17:35:17] <rawbdor> maxandersen, martin claims he is seeing the radio stuck on a greyed metadata after playing with it [17:35:27] <rawbdor> i and andre are unable to replicate at all but martin insists he can replicate it [17:35:38] <maxandersen> Snjeza: I don't understand - as7 doesn't have a strictly determined source set?they differ dependent on which jars/modules/facets are enabled. [17:36:09] <maxandersen> rawbdor: tell him to jing/screencast how he replicates it [17:36:26] <mmalina> maxandersen: how do you do the screenscasts? [17:36:36] *** danflo is now known as danflo|otl [17:36:39] <maxandersen> mmalina: on mac/windows use jing [17:36:46] <maxandersen> mmalina: linux - recordmydesktop [17:36:52] <mmalina> maxandersen: ok, thanks. I will do it [17:37:45] <rawbdor> mmalina, howdy ;) [17:38:31] <mmalina> rawbdor: hey :) [17:38:36] <Snjeza> maxandersen: I would add all the modules to the source attachment. It isn't important whether they are enabled or not. They wouldn't be on the classpath, but only in the source attachment. [17:38:56] <rawbdor> mmalina, really i've tried everything to replicate ;) hehe [17:39:28] <mmalina> rawbdor: yep, let me record the screencast :) [17:40:58] *** maxandersen has quit IRC [17:45:31] *** dpalmer has joined #jbosstools [17:46:13] *** maxandersen has joined #jbosstools [17:46:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o maxandersen [17:52:14] <mmalina> rawbdor: http://screencast.com/t/e7pR0LVjUe [17:52:36] <mmalina> rawbdor: sorry it's a bit lengthy.. my first screen cast ;) [17:53:17] <rawbdor> mmalina, im gonna go to bed shortly [17:53:22] <rawbdor> can you just attach that to the bug? [17:53:30] <mmalina> rawbdor: sure [18:01:54] *** Snjeza has quit IRC [18:04:15] *** gbrown_ has joined #jbosstools [18:09:31] <maxandersen> mmalina: rawbdor: I bet the problem has something to do with the automatically identified EAP 5 server found at startup [18:10:58] <mmalina> maxandersen: I just did a second screencast not using the automatic detection [18:11:10] <mmalina> maxandersen: http://screencast.com/t/VpnvSRsovK [18:11:32] <mmalina> this one is shorter (not waiting to find my RSA token) [18:14:46] <maxandersen> mmalina: well you do the same as the detectino - creates a local one first ;) [18:15:00] <maxandersen> mmalina: so try create teh RSE one directly [18:15:42] *** jpeterka has quit IRC [18:18:02] <fbricon> anyone here using ubuntu? [18:19:08] <mmalina> maxandersen: how can I do that? when I create new server it needs a runtime. but that runtime can only be created locally, right? so it will be the same as before.. [18:19:56] <dgolovin> fbricon: yes, I am [18:21:13] <maxandersen> mmalina: no - what the server targets as deploy is remote, what jars it loads for classpath is local. [18:21:41] *** dgolovin has quit IRC [18:23:29] <VRubezhny> fbricon: (while dgolovin is out) I'm using ubuntu. [18:23:49] *** dgolovin has joined #jbosstools [18:23:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dgolovin [18:24:12] <fbricon> Hey VRubezhny [18:24:49] <mmalina> maxandersen: yes. but that's what I did, no? I did another video from scratch. but I think it's still the same. http://screencast.com/t/1UZ9ptHc9 (45 sec) [18:25:06] <maxandersen> mmalina: no you created two servers [18:26:04] <mmalina> maxandersen: I know. but the runtime that I used with the second one is the same type as if I created it directly from the New Server dialog [18:26:07] <maxandersen> mmalina: correction, in this last video you did it in one. [18:26:21] <maxandersen> mmalina: so yeah my guess its some weird windows filesystem related bug [18:26:50] <mmalina> maxandersen: there is no windows involved. it mac (local) and rhel6 (remote) [18:27:09] <maxandersen> mmalina: ooh misrecognized... [18:27:19] <maxandersen> mmalina: then yeah i'm withoout good clues. [18:27:29] <mmalina> maxandersen: I also tried the other direction - I ran jbds on RHEL6 and used a remote server on mac. still the same issue [18:27:32] <maxandersen> each of these videos are on clean workspaces? [18:28:43] <mmalina> maxandersen: yes, clean workspace (actually not the last one, I can check that to be sure). also, I don't believe my installation was broken, since I tried on two different machines (mac and rhel6). but I can still try a different build [18:30:27] *** lzoubek has left #jbosstools [18:31:08] <myarboro> maxandersen: heya [18:32:22] *** gbrown_ has quit IRC [18:33:19] <maxandersen> myarboro: heya [18:33:28] <maxandersen> mmalina: let me try on a clean workspace on my side here too [18:34:27] <mmalina> maxandersen: ok [18:40:11] *** akazakov has joined #jbosstools [18:40:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o akazakov [18:51:04] *** koentsje has joined #jbosstools [18:51:37] <akazakov> maxandersen: ping [18:51:54] <maxandersen> akazakov: 4 min pong [18:52:24] <akazakov> when you have more time. please comment https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9347 ;) [18:52:27] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-9347] Show All Resolved Beans dialog [Open, Major, (cdi (jsr-299)), maxandersen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9347 [18:52:32] <akazakov> maxandersen: ^^ [18:52:38] <maxandersen> mmalina: i've tried reproducing on clean workspace, but no luck [18:52:51] <maxandersen> mmalina: i can try again tomorrow doing the *exact* same steps but not now [18:53:44] <mmalina> maxandersen: that's funny :) ok, let me first try on a different build. but tomorrow [18:57:29] <maxandersen> akazakov: answered - i hope ;) [18:57:45] <akazakov> thanks [18:58:09] <maxandersen> I *might* be back later tonight. [18:58:36] <maxandersen> so put any questions you got on the jira left and ill answer more tonight or tomorrow... 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