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[09:40:44] <maxandersen> rawbdor: jbide-9112 did you fix the error message to be a bit more clear ?
[09:40:47] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9112] AS7: deployment fails when switching from zipped -> exploded deployment and changing a single resource [Resolved, Major, (JBossAS), rob.stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9112
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[09:42:22] <rawbdor> maxandersen,  as said in the jira i removed the error message and simply switched to a full publish
[09:42:26] <rawbdor> for the reasons mentioned in the jira
[09:43:34] <maxandersen> rawbdor: ah - I read it as you still would get the erorr in one case but in others it could be handled. got it.
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[09:44:08] <maxandersen> rawbdor: about jbide-9277 is the poller ui disabled when checking the checkbox?
[09:44:12] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9277] AS adapter does not enable polling when start/shutdown commands are disabled [Reopened, Major, (JBossAS), maxandersen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9277
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[09:44:55] <rawbdor> maxandersen,  what checkbox?
[09:45:00] <rawbdor> oh
[09:45:01] <rawbdor> right
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[09:45:22] <rawbdor> no i didn't disable any UI yet
[09:45:33] <rawbdor> i'm working on JBIDE-9243  right now
[09:45:35] <rawbdor> with the dialog
[09:45:37] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9243] local servers are not trying to start because it already looks like they are started [Open, Blocker, (JBossAS), rob.stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9243
[09:45:37] <maxandersen> rawbdor: part of that bug is that the ui looks like thre are still pollers and then you expect it to be thre ;)
[09:45:57] <rawbdor> maxandersen,  the behaviour is still not 100% settled. I mean we have it settled in our heads but it needs to be implemented
[09:46:11] <rawbdor> and we have 4 bugs opened all saying the same thing ;)
[09:46:15] <rawbdor> or very similar things
[09:46:36] <rawbdor> disabling the poller UI will be something that is done but right now im focussed on the dialog
[09:46:38] <maxandersen> rawbdor: yep
[09:46:46] <rawbdor> get hte initial behaviour settled
[09:46:50] <maxandersen> rawbdor: sure -ive just assigned the issue back.
[09:46:53] <rawbdor> ok
[09:47:02] <maxandersen> rawbdor: have you linked those 4 issues up to it ?
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[09:47:27] <rawbdor> no i guess i'll do that
[09:47:28] <rawbdor> heh
[09:47:33] <maxandersen> rawbdor: just so we get them all closed and not hanging around forever and ever ;)
[09:47:47] <rawbdor> they're all some of the only things *I* have left for m3 ;)
[09:47:52] <rawbdor> so i don't think i'll lose track of them
[09:47:57] <rawbdor> they're hte only damn things staring me in the face in jira
[09:47:58] <maxandersen> im still looking for that bug where all the discussion is
[09:47:58] <rawbdor> lol
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[09:48:19] <rawbdor> maxandersen,  the one you linked me to has most of the discussion https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9277
[09:48:22] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9277] AS adapter does not enable polling when start/shutdown commands are disabled [Reopened, Major, (JBossAS), rob.stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9277
[09:48:28] <rawbdor> but the one you made a lot of description on yourself is https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9243
[09:48:31] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9243] local servers are not trying to start because it already looks like they are started [Open, Blocker, (JBossAS), rob.stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9243
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[10:36:15] <maxandersen> hey adietisheim I was looking at commit history yesterday to track down a pom bug and i noticed your commits are often multiple single files, but the commits are not done atomically but over half hours with minutes in between?. is that intentional ?
[10:36:25] <maxandersen> you are for sure keeping the build server busy ;)
[10:37:07] <adietisheim> maxandersen: yes, intentional since rawbdor wanted to have single commits to single issues.
[10:37:26] <maxandersen> adietisheim: but these point to the same jira
[10:37:41] <adietisheim> maxandersen: yup, but text usually says what it was about
[10:37:53] <adietisheim> maxandersen: might have had to split into different jiras, right
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[10:38:10] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  maxandersen  yeah um... i've started to notice it too.  I guess I just meant...  hrmm
[10:38:14] <adietisheim> basically JBIDE-9215 was a mix of implementing remote start/stop and cleaning
[10:38:18] <rawbdor> how to explain it without making adietisheim  pull his hair out ;)
[10:38:18] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-9215] AS7: implement start/stop for remote servers  [Open, Major, (JBossAS), adietish] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9215
[10:38:48] <adietisheim> maxandersen: rawbdor: so what should I have done then?
[10:39:04] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  i would probably have two issues.  One for impl, one for cleanup
[10:39:12] <adietisheim> rawbdor: yup, ok
[10:39:35] <rawbdor> and the commits don't have to be only one file at a time, but, they should make sense with each other
[10:40:13] <adietisheim> rawbdor: that's basically what I tried to do. atomic commits for things i wanted to achieve. not atomic by files but by goal
[10:40:48] <adietisheim> rawbdor: but sure, i was too quick in committing at times. noticed another related thing and committed again with the same comment
[10:41:01] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  i haven't really looked through how large each patch / commit is
[10:41:04] <rawbdor> so i can't REALLY criticize
[10:41:11] <rawbdor> i just did notice there were a lot of commits to the same issues
[10:41:24] <adietisheim> rawbdor: the committs are pretty small changes, tried 1 goal by commit.
[10:41:46] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  well if the changes are really small, then you can group changes together and just make the message show it
[10:41:47] <adietisheim> rawbdor: but sure, was pretty much a mix of 2 major things: 1) cleaning 2) implementing
[10:41:54] <rawbdor> yep
[10:42:10] <rawbdor> anyway thats why i suggested last month,   impl first and try HARD to not change structure
[10:42:11] <rawbdor> THEN clean
[10:42:21] <rawbdor> i mean its my own philosophy
[10:42:25] <rawbdor> you don't have to follow it
[10:42:30] <rawbdor> but it makes stuff a bit more understandable
[10:42:32] <adietisheim> rawbdor: well, some things cant be impl without change
[10:42:34] <rawbdor> X is the fix,  Y is the cleanup
[10:42:36] <rawbdor> yeah i get it :)
[10:42:38] <maxandersen> adietisheim: yeah, sounds to me like instead of having close to 40(!) commits you could have had 4 or so...
[10:42:50] <rawbdor> i understand there's gonna be overlap
[10:42:59] <adietisheim> rawbdor: I had to clean so that I could subclass for remote/local
[10:43:24] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  sure ;)   so maybe commit 1 is pre-impl cleanup,  commit 2 is subclass impl,   commit 3 is post-impl cleanup
[10:43:32] <rawbdor> stuff like that
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[10:43:46] <maxandersen> anyway I was just surprised I had to page through 4 pages of fisheye before I could find my commit from last week under as ;)
[10:44:08] <rawbdor> again its not a huge deal but it does slow other people down when we try to dig through svn history for stuff
[10:44:16] <adietisheim> rawbdor: yup, but not waiting too long with committing changes was intentional too. wanted to have a small gap to trunk (as we discussed)
[10:44:33] <rawbdor> adietisheim,  yep... i understand it all ;)  but.... it's a fine line to walk
[10:45:26] <rawbdor> if you commit too infrequent, merge becomes a pain. but if you commit 7 times a day, i can't really keep up to date without you updating so fast that i've gotta merge it back in anyway ;)
[10:45:46] <rawbdor> i guess 3-4 days is probably safe for no commits, and hten a bulk commit
[10:45:57] <rawbdor> if you tell me what you're working on and i know not to go there for a short while
[10:46:31] <rawbdor> anyway, we'll get there :)
[10:49:22] <rawbdor> i'll be back in 10 guys
[10:49:24] <rawbdor> gotta grab a taxi
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[10:54:26] <maxandersen> you guys really need to get to git ;)
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[13:39:15] <fbricon> maxandersen: ping
[13:39:26] <maxandersen> fbricon: plong
[13:39:50] <fbricon> I've been thinking about your idea of common selected profiles
[13:39:52] <maxandersen> hey yradtsevich long time seen ya ;) i must be showing up late ;)
[13:39:57] <maxandersen> fbricon: uhoh ? :)
[13:40:43] <fbricon> what if project1 has profileA activated and project2 has the same profile deactivated?
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[13:41:58] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: hi
[13:42:18] <maxandersen> fbricon: and the user chooses to active ProfileA for both ? then it gets actiated for both...
[13:42:40] <fbricon> maxandersen: what do you display?
[13:42:52] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: I saw your comments about xulrunner ?.any progress on that ?
[13:42:53] <fbricon> show the profile as inactivated?
[13:44:41] <maxandersen> fbricon: in other multiselection uis I seem to remember that the field/info is just empty/NA
[13:44:54] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: if you mean the mac issue, no success yet. my swt test project still works without this problem
[13:44:57] <maxandersen> fbricon: i.e. when editing multiple tags in itunes or other tag editor
[13:45:28] <maxandersen> fbricon: it shows "multiple values" ?then you can select what you want and it gets applied to all
[13:45:37] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: mac issue?
[13:46:02] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: no i mean the linux issue about using ubuntu built binaries instead of red hat ones?but then I guess all our tests will fail.
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[13:47:01] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: I told about JBIDE-8711 - grey areas on mac while search-next-next
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[13:51:19] <fbricon> maxandersen: so the checkbox is greyed, and the menu on the profile proposes activate / deactivate ?
[13:51:21] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: what is about XR for linux x86_64, I am going to revert back to XR for Ubuntu. In this case JUnits will fail only on x86_64, so we could set our Hudson jobs to use only x86 slaves
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[13:52:45] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: just be sure you get that done before so we dont see a slew of build failures/halts because of that swap
[13:53:00] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: ok. what is your opinion? Is support of Ubuntu x86_64 more important than RHEL5 x86_64?
[13:53:01] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: did anything move on the eclipse bug to fix SWT?
[13:53:13] <maxandersen> fbricon: something like that yes
[13:53:45] <maxandersen> fbricon: well checkbox should still be clickable I assume?
[13:54:00] <maxandersen> just initial state is "unknown' or whatever that state is in SWT
[13:55:01] <fbricon> maxandersen: don't knpow about SWT state, but I believe it's doable
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[13:57:45] <fbricon> maxandersen: and what if you have 3 projects, but only 2 share a common profile. Do you display anything?
[14:00:27] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: the SWT bug is https://bugs.eclipse.org/349837 . The target it is 3.7.1, but they still did not apply changes proposed by Snjezana.
[14:00:49] <maxandersen> fbricon: I would say "Multiple projects found but no shared profiles found."
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[14:01:22] <maxandersen> fbricon: doing something else would require some rather interesting sorting ;)
[14:01:53] <maxandersen> fbricon: i.e. find the biggest set of projects with the biggest overlap of profiles and then list the remaining projects as "non applicable" or something ;)
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[14:04:22] <fbricon> maxandersen: yeah ... but no thanks
[14:04:39] <maxandersen> fbricon: exactly ;) no need to make it *that* complex ;)
[14:04:53] <maxandersen> fbricon: btw. what is the status on m2ewtp to get back in the marketplace?
[14:05:24] <fbricon> I need to fix one more thing, then ask for respin
[14:07:32] <maxandersen> k
[14:07:38] <fbricon> maxandersen: I'll make a short appearance on the call this afternoon, since I'm not "working" today
[14:07:54] <maxandersen> ah ;)
[14:07:59] <fbricon> or tomorrow
[14:08:06] <fbricon> what day are we? :-)
[14:08:17] <fbricon> it's today
[14:08:32] <maxandersen> es ytoday
[14:13:20] <Elisha> where can I report enhancement for m2e
[14:13:53] <Elisha> or maven? regarding my "bug" from yesterday
[14:18:45] <fbricon> Elisha:  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=m2e
[14:19:28] <fbricon> Elisha: or for maven directly : http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG
[14:19:38] <Elisha> it's hard to tell
[14:20:20] <Elisha> fbricon: do you want to know what was the issue yesterday?
[14:20:32] <fbricon> shoot
[14:21:02] <Elisha> well I was missing executions goal, so it didn't want to download plugin
[14:21:22] <Elisha> in maven2 it downloads, but not in maven3
[14:22:13] <fbricon> in maven CLI?
[14:22:19] <Elisha> yes
[14:22:32] <fbricon> so it's not a m2e issue
[14:22:34] <Elisha> it worked in eclipse aswell when I added executions
[14:23:01] <fbricon> m2e doesn't execute plugins it doesn't know about
[14:23:35] <Elisha> weird
[14:23:46] <fbricon> Elisha: read http://wiki.eclipse.org/M2E_plugin_execution_not_covered
[14:24:12] <Elisha> fbricon: that's not the issue, I had to set ignore and changed it to execute
[14:25:09] <Elisha> I know how to bypass that, but first it had to download the plugin.
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[14:27:15] <fbricon> Elisha: ask in #maven at irc.codehaus.org before opening a bug in MNG
[14:27:46] <Elisha> I was there yesterday, and came up on my own how to deal this problem.
[14:27:56] <Elisha> they were just idle
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[15:59:35] <fbricon> "the leader has not yet arrived" :-)
[16:02:50] <maxandersen> nickboldt: joining ?
[16:03:49] <nickboldt> maxandersen: yes - had to wrangle dogs into a place in the house they can't destroy stuff. #puppies
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[19:14:37] <dgolovin> maxandersen: nickboldt: m2e build is fine for 3.2.x branch https://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/DevStudio_Stable_Branch/job/jbosstools-3.2_stable_branch.component--maven/198/changes
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[19:19:06] <maxandersen> dgolovin: nickboldt sounds great
[19:19:39] <maxandersen> dgolovin: nickboldt: did we reach a conclusion on the naming and arrangement of our updatesite perspective?
[19:25:27] <dgolovin> maxandersen: sorry, I was not following this part of discussion :(
[19:39:39] <nickboldt> maxandersen: no, you told me to stop blathering and to take it offline
[19:40:00] <nickboldt> so... what would YOU like to do about labels and versions of the com.jboss.jbds.*.features?
[19:44:11] <maxandersen> nickboldt: :) can I add polka dots and jumping turkeys?
[19:44:46] <nickboldt> maxandersen: personally I like either versioning them based on the largest version of their included features (eg., com.j.j.spring.feature moves to 3.6.1); however... we need that the jbds4.x and 5.x stream features are versioned differently even if they BOTH include the same 3rd party guts
[19:47:45] <nickboldt> maxandersen: how about we version stuff like 4.1.361 or 5.0.361 for the SpringIDE 3.6.1 example?
[19:48:14] <nickboldt> or would you rather see 3.6.1.timestamp-JBDS50-etc. ?
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[19:59:50] <maxandersen> wwhere does the 361 comes from ?
[19:59:59] <maxandersen> oh concat of the spring
[20:00:03] <maxandersen> hmm...well...
[20:00:28] <maxandersen> btw. why do we need the stream features to be versioned differently if they contain the same?
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[20:02:49] <maxandersen> ill be around tomorrow - nickboldt/dgolovin can we talk there?
[20:03:24] <nickboldt> maxandersen: 10am GMT-5 ?
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[20:03:31] <nickboldt> maxafk: ^
[20:03:39] <maxafk> nickboldt: tihnks so
[20:03:39] <maxafk> 4hrs ago
[20:11:56] <dgolovin> maxafk: nickboldt: it means 7AM here, I'm fime with it
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[21:39:34] <gastaldi> hey !!
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[22:22:23] <bfitzpat> nickboldt - neek! got a sec?
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[22:50:08] <Elisha> :~)
[22:51:09] <nickboldt> bfitzpat: fitzy! yes
[22:51:21] <bfitzpat> nickboldt - what's the latest 3.2.1 CR2 update site?
[22:51:42] * nickboldt goes hunting for the URL
[22:52:14] <nickboldt> bfitzpat: http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/3.2_stable_branch/
[22:53:14] <nickboldt> note that this is also linked from www.jboss.org/tools/download
[22:54:07] <nickboldt> and from here http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/builds/cascade/ under the "Results > JBT Aggregate > updates" link
[22:55:02] <nickboldt> bfitzpat: zat werk?
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[22:58:54] <bfitzpat> beauty - is that what Jirka and his team are testing?
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[23:25:37] <nickboldt> bfitzpat: should be, yes
[23:30:06] <bfitzpat> nickboldt - perfecto. danke
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[23:33:22] <nickboldt> bfitzpat: btw, I solved this issue: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9330?focusedCommentId=12614188&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-12614188
[23:33:25] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9330] Inability to install drools [Resolved, Blocker, (drools), nickboldt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9330
[23:33:37] <nickboldt> (well, solved might be the wrong word. EXPLAINED is maybe better.)
[23:42:30] <bfitzpat> nickboldt - awesome
[23:42:53] <bfitzpat> "crossing the streams is bad" - thanks Egon - important safety tip!





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