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[10:55:36] <maxandersen> koentsje: morbning
[10:55:57] <koentsje> maxandersen, hello there!
[10:56:38] <maxandersen> skype or just chath
[10:57:41] <koentsje> maxandersen, probably skype is more efficient don't you think?
[10:57:48] <koentsje> but i need to get my headset
[10:57:49] <maxandersen>  sure
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[13:38:24] <fbricon_zZzZzZ> Snjeza: hi
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[13:38:47] <fbricon> Snjeza: are you familiar with TableViewer manipulations?
[13:39:51] <fbricon> How do I get the width of the table, so I can set the columns width accordingly, as percentage?
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[14:31:48] <Snjeza> fbricon: I have used TableViewer in the runtime, remote.debug and in a few other plugins. You could take a look at the source code of those plugins. The remote.debug plugin is placed in JBIDE-8548.
[14:31:51] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-8548] Support auto discovery of remote processes for debugging [Open, Major, (JBossAS), snjeza] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8548
[14:40:52] <fbricon> Snjeza: mmm looks like you always need to give a starting value to the column width, before being able to do some dynamic resizing
[14:49:30] <Snjeza> fbricon: the sizes are computed when calling the layout method. They depend on the screen size, parent's size... That is why you have to use a layout manager.
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[15:35:27] <maxandersen1> hey adietisheim
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[15:51:59] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: pong
[15:52:18] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: was taking a breath, just finished remote starting, needed a coffee ;)
[15:56:00] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: have you had success with openshift express yet ?
[15:56:56] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: sorry, had no time to test it yet. was running for remote start/remote and refactoring. Should be the next thing to do as soon as stop is working
[15:57:49] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: guess you tested it. works?
[15:59:24] <maxandersen1> adietisheim:  not much to test since we don't have any integration yet ;)
[15:59:26] <maxandersen1> adietisheim:
[15:59:54] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: ok, definitely need to get that done.
[15:59:57] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: btw. I didn't see neither you or Rob on the call lastweek with openshift team? were you listening in quietly?
[16:00:19] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: i definitely wanted to but completely forgot about it :(
[16:00:19] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: I had to run for my pto so didn't follow up afterwards.
[16:00:29] <maxandersen1> :(
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[16:00:49] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: yep, I sucked, sorry. Is there any recording?
[16:16:14] <maxandersen1> adietisheim: ive forwarded it to both you and rob just now
[16:19:45] <adietisheim> maxandersen1: hmm, nothing in my inbox yet
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[16:30:08] <adietisheim> maxandersen: to what email did you send it to? nothing in my inbox yet
[16:30:30] <maxandersen> upid vpn
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[16:34:57] <maxandersen> adietisheim: there..sent
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[16:37:51] <adietisheim> maxandersen: thanks, just came in.
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[16:41:46] <fbricon> dgolovin: ping
[16:42:18] <fbricon> maxandersen: hi
[16:42:31] <maxandersen> fbricon: heysan
[16:43:02] <fbricon> maxandersen: need to sync up w/ dgolovin about potential JBT 3.3.0M2 respin
[16:43:24] <maxandersen> fbricon: yeah, I assumed he would have reacted before?but I guess he didnt?
[16:43:26] <fbricon> I harrassed him for another issue last week
[16:43:36] <maxandersen> ah, you scared him away?
[16:43:58] <fbricon> nah, I was not scary this time
[16:44:30] <fbricon> about backporting m2e 1.0 dependencies to 3.2.x
[16:45:22] <maxandersen> fbricon: how did that go?
[16:45:49] <maxandersen> btw. about JBIDE-8969 ?.is ctrl+alt+P not taken by anyone? would assume something with printing?
[16:45:53] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-8969] Make better UI for Maven Profile selection [Open, Critical, (maven), fbricon] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8969
[16:47:31] <fbricon> printing is Ctrl+P
[16:48:13] <fbricon> mmm Ctrl+Alt+P => publishing in server view
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[16:58:14] <maxandersen> fbricon: yeah?.I would be surprised if you can find one that works with {
[16:58:18] <maxandersen> P i mean.
[16:58:38] <fbricon> maxandersen: have you tried it?
[16:58:38] <maxandersen> aslak: ping - did you try out snjezan's JBIDE-8548 ? does it work for you?
[16:58:43] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-8548] Support auto discovery of remote processes for debugging [Open, Major, (JBossAS), snjeza] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8548
[16:58:51] <maxandersen> fbricon: im still just on mail mode today ;(
[16:59:13] <maxandersen> about 500 unreads this morning ?.still randomly deleting
[16:59:34] <fbricon> ok. I added another column, profile source : pom or settings.xml
[17:01:16] * fbricon needs to run some errands. Be back later
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[17:21:03] <aslak> maxandersen, hey
[17:21:14] <aslak> maxandersen, yea, been testing it
[17:21:35] <aslak> maxandersen, it doesn't quite work, but i'm not sure that is to blame on Snjezan's work
[17:21:57] <aslak> the remote connect, discovery and all, very nice
[17:22:33] <aslak> maxandersen, but..  even tho the Remote Debug Session is accosiated with the Project i'm running on, it doesn't seem to be able to find the source of dependencies
[17:23:11] <maxandersen> aslak: add that to bug - if the project has source attached to those then that should work for this.
[17:23:33] <maxandersen> aslak: have you seen any lag in the ui ?
[17:23:37] <aslak> maxandersen, when "Edit Source Lookup", i can see the "Default" which is my choosen project have my other modules target/classes in the list, but i still hvae to manually add the project for it to find the source
[17:23:59] <maxandersen> aslak: that i'm sure we should be able to handle better.
[17:24:52] <maxandersen> adietisheim: btw. any pointers to me why I seem to be alone on suggesting in JBIDE-9277 to have start/stop buttons for our server adapters even if we aren't laucnhing the servers ?
[17:24:56] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9277] AS adapter does not enable polling when start/shutdown commands are disabled [Reopened, Major, (JBossAS), rob.stryker] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9277
[17:25:06] <aslak> maxandersen, not sure if it could be some combination of m2eclipse and project setup or something.. i find it very strage the eclipse can't figure out that this project a deps on b and b has source where b has classes
[17:25:29] <aslak> maxandersen, no lags in the latest version that i've seen so far.. but just updated a little while ago :)
[17:27:09] <adietisheim> maxandersen: I'm not suggesting not to have'em. I was just trying to make a sense out of what I heard so far
[17:27:36] <maxandersen> aslak: yeah,  I just want to be sure we don't trigger the detection too soon and blocks the ui for that
[17:27:40] <adietisheim> maxandersen: afaik I heard ya complaining about having to start/stop the adapter. And I then tried to make sense of start/stop, adapter state etc.
[17:27:52] <adietisheim> maxandersen: I dont see a consistent behav. so far.
[17:28:19] <maxandersen> adietisheim: when did I complain about having to start/stop ? i'm complaining about I no longer can start/stop ;)
[17:28:42] <maxandersen> adietisheim: previously I complained because the start/stop wasn't consistent with AS7 because of bad error hadnling.
[17:29:03] <adietisheim> maxandersen: now yes, but I'm pretty sure I heard you complaining some weeks ago
[17:29:19] <adietisheim> maxandersen: well, then it's just misunderstanding
[17:29:37] <adietisheim> maxandersen: just tried to get something consistent and bringing me up to your understanding
[17:29:45] <adietisheim> maxandersen: since asking rob did not clarify things
[17:30:09] <adietisheim> maxandersen: and the usecase is pretty hard since we have 2 states that got split: adapter state/server state
[17:30:13] <maxandersen> adietisheim: the complaints I remember was also that pollers were enabled at some point for these servers and thus start/stop also got very skewed.
[17:30:29] <maxandersen> adietisheim: I really don't see this as a split.
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[17:30:52] <maxandersen> adietisheim: it's just a question about what "start" includes, autopublish:yes/no, start server: yes/no
[17:31:01] <adietisheim> maxandersen: yep, exactly.
[17:31:17] <adietisheim> maxandersen: guess should talk tomorrow since rob was not clear about it either
[17:31:25] <maxandersen> but then I've alwayesed vieweed the start/stop as a start/stop of the server adapter not the server it self.
[17:32:07] <maxandersen> Rob keeps linking Start/Stop to the physical server?which to me is asking for trouble when WTP can't handle the difference.
[17:32:18] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ok, on this
[17:32:36] <adietisheim> maxandersen: my guess was that reporting the server state is not what WTP wanted and gets us into troubles.
[17:33:30] <adietisheim> maxandersen: but what are the pollers for then if we dont report the server state?
[17:34:40] <maxandersen> adietisheim: I think WTP wanted server state to be reflected?but it means different things dependent on the server/server adapter. I believe we can make that work to our advantage. first step is to agree start/stop is for the server adapter - not for the server it self ;)
[17:34:54] <adietisheim> maxandersen: ok
[17:35:36] <maxandersen> adietisheim: the pollers are used when you know what server you are actually launhing and how. as I tried to write I wish it could work for the "non managed" mode too?but in the current setup/UI I don't see a good way of doing it. i.e. which one should be the default?.
[17:38:07] <Snjeza> aslak: did you update the latest code?
[17:38:29] <maxandersen> Snjeza: heya
[17:38:39] <aslak> Snjeza, yea
[17:39:35] <Snjeza> aslak: the 1.0.0.201107102254 version?
[17:39:53] <Snjeza> maxandersen: hello Max
[17:40:21] <aslak> Snjeza, yea, 1.0.0.201107102254
[17:40:25] <maxandersen> Snjeza: why cant we use normal launch detectors here?
[17:42:27] <Snjeza> maxandersen: do you mean launch connectors?
[17:43:34] <Snjeza> aslak: "when "Edit Source Lookup", i can see the "Default" which is my choosen project have my other modules target/classes in the list, but i still hvae to manually add the project for it to find the source" - do you have any test case?
[17:45:43] <aslak> Snjeza, maxandersen: It does work if I select both projects and do Remote debug. Selecting only one, does not add the Projects dependencies as a Project, only the output folders(target/classes and target/test-classes).
[17:46:54] <Snjeza> I use Eclipse remote application configuration.  aslak, does the standard Eclipse configuration work for you?
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[17:47:38] <aslak> Snjeza, standard being?
[17:48:13] <Snjeza> aslak: the selected projects are added as dependencies to the default tab.
[17:48:44] <maxandersen> Snjeza: sorry, meant launch shortcuts
[17:49:04] <aslak> Snjeza, yea, but shouldn't the Projects 'real' dependencies also be added ?
[17:49:49] <Snjeza> aslak: checking...
[17:51:06] <Snjeza> maxandersen: what shortcuts do you want me to add?
[17:51:33] <maxandersen> Snjeza: Debug As?. > Remote Process?
[17:54:47] <fbricon> Snjeza: just don't use Ctrl+Alt+P :-)
[17:55:35] <Snjeza> maxandersen: Neither it is possible to contribute a menu to the "Debug As" menu nor to change a label in the launchShortcuts extension point. I have had to add a new menu
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[18:05:01] <Snjeza> aslak: what do you mean by the Projects 'real' dependencies?
[18:05:26] <aslak> Snjeza, I have Project A that depends on B
[18:05:55] <aslak> Snjeza, if i do remote debug on Project A, project B is shown in Source Lookup "Default" as classes / test-classes only
[18:06:33] <aslak> Snjeza, but if i select both Project A and B then Remote Debug, Project B show up in the Source Lookup as a 'Project(in the eclipse sense)'
[18:07:02] <aslak> Since Project A depends on Project B from before, i would expect it to show up as a Project when selcing only A for Remote Debug as well
[18:08:30] <aslak> if that makes sense
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[18:10:24] <Snjeza> aslak: does that work correctly when you create your launch configuration using Eclipse's Remote Java Application? When you select a project,  I can add all its dependent projects
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[18:13:16] <dgolovin> fbricon: pong, time to respin or patches should be applied first?
[18:13:39] <fbricon> dgolovin: that's not about the same issue
[18:14:16] <aslak> Snjeza, actually not. Remote Jvaa Application has the same issue. probably why it always annoyed me so much. never debugged why before. wel, there you go. that's just silly! :)
[18:14:22] <maxandersen> Snjeza: I don't understand why you say it is not possible to contribute to Debug As ?that is what launch short cuts do?and why do you want to change the label for anything but "Remote process?" ?
[18:14:43] <aslak> brb
[18:14:45] <fbricon> dgolovin: we're about to release m2e-wtp 0.13.1, But current JBT 3.3.0.M2 is only compatible with 0.13.0, no version range
[18:15:43] <fbricon> dgolovin: so we'd need to respin a "fixed" JBT 3.3.0 M2 maven plugins, compatible with [0.13.0, 0.15.0)
[18:16:37] <fbricon> dgolovin: so we need a plan
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[18:19:37] <fbricon> Snjeza: any idea how to handle http://pastebin.com/Ei30YHzm? (see https://github.com/sonatype/m2eclipse-extras/blob/master/org.sonatype.m2e.mavenarchiver/src/org/sonatype/m2e/mavenarchiver/internal/AbstractMavenArchiverConfigurator.java#L207)
[18:20:08] <Snjeza> maxandersen: I have to add pid, port, main class to the label in order the user to know what process to debug. The launchShortcuts extension point enables to add only fixed labels.
[18:21:57] <maxandersen> Snjeza: but you could just show a menu/dialog after user has chosen that...
[18:23:56] <maxandersen> Snjeza: likely hood of you having multiple processes are slim anyway I would say...
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[18:31:50] <dgolovin> maxandersen: You're right about "likely hood" for one user :) but what about other million?
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[18:36:16] <maxandersen> dgolovin: other million ? not following you.
[18:36:34] <maxandersen> dgolovin: we only look for the current users processes?.
[18:36:49] <maxandersen> dgolovin: and if you run more than 1 java process in debug listen mode ?well then we just ask you.
[18:36:58] <maxandersen> dgolovin: if you don't - you don't get asked...simpler.
[18:41:27] <dgolovin> maxandersen: nm :)  I just wanted to say "likely hood" of having pultiple processes" are getting bigger when amount of user are bigger. I'm not running more than one usually, but sometimes it happens. Here is an example debugging tycho and tests started from tycho at the same time
[18:43:41] <maxandersen> dgolovin: I completely agree, which is why having the dialog asking for which one you actually meant is ok?.
[18:44:09] <maxandersen> dgolovin: since it only happens in rare cases ....
[18:44:37] <maxandersen> dgolovin: or rather, the most common is that you have one process in debug mode?and if you have multiple ones you would need to choose ;)
[18:46:13] <Snjeza> maxandersen: "but you could just show a menu/dialog after user has chosen that..."
[18:46:15] <Snjeza> Any menu can't be added to the Debug As.
[18:46:16] <Snjeza> The only we can do is to add declaratively a menu item (launch configuration) to the plugin.xml file.  We can't know in advance what remote applications the user has started and what ports he uses. That's why we can't define those actions to the plugin.xml file. The only way to do that would be to change the org.eclipse.debug.ui plugin.
[18:46:17] <dgolovin> maxandersen: you're right :) I just pulled that sentence out without a context ... might be because we have problem with connection here
[18:46:30] <maxandersen> Snjeza: how long is the wait?i'm runnng mvnDebug on mac and it just hangs when I try and show remote debug as menu.
[18:47:15] <maxandersen> Snjeza: Im not asking for dynamically adding stuff in there?i'm asking to add *one* fixed menu item.
[18:47:27] <maxandersen> Snjeza: just like the "remote debug" is static.
[18:48:31] <maxandersen> ..and if 10-15 seconds wait is the norm for this then it really should be a dialog with a progress bar where you can cancel it instead of locking the UI
[18:51:40] <aslak> maxandersen, i run multiple all the time. multiple local AS instances for instance, or a AS and Maven build
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[18:52:24] <maxandersen> aslak: yes - and wouldn't you prefer that instead of the UI blocking on finding processes it would just show a small dialog with a cancellbale progress bar and if there are multiple you then choose.
[18:52:43] <maxandersen> aslak: and if there are just one it takes that automatically.
[18:53:58] <Snjeza> maxandersen: "and if 10-15 seconds wait is the norm for this then it really should be a dialog with a progress bar where you can cancel it instead of locking the UI" - If you uncheck the Discover Remote Applications  preference, You will get the Discover Remote Applications menu. When you call this action, you will get a dialog with a progress bar. However, you can't cancel it because the...
[18:54:00] <Snjeza> ...tools.jar methods aren't cancelable.
[18:54:38] <aslak> "cancellbale progress bar" ?how long does this take?
[18:55:58] <aslak> and what happened to multi threading.. :)
[18:56:23] <maxandersen> snjeza: when I disable that I don't get any dialog...
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[18:56:37] <Snjeza> maxandersen: "Im not asking for dynamically adding stuff in there?i'm asking to add *one* fixed menu item." - What fixed menu item would you like me to add?
[18:56:46] <maxandersen> Snjeza: and sure, tools jar aren't canceable - but thats why its even more important it goes into a background job.
[18:57:36] <maxandersen> Snjeza: Remote Debug?  which corresponds to what you call "Discover remote applicatoins"
[18:57:57] <maxandersen> aslak: on my machine it takes 20-30 seconds for the menu to appear.
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[18:58:05] <maxandersen> aslak: which is bad UI IMO.
[18:58:54] <aslak> maxandersen, that's with the latest v?
[18:59:03] <aslak> maxandersen, haven't noticed
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[18:59:23] <Snjeza> aslak: call Window>Preferences>Jboss Tools>JBoss Tools Remote Debug and uncheck "Discover Remote Applications"
[19:00:19] <maxandersen> aslak: it probably depends on your machine configuration and what "mood" java hotspot is in ;)
[19:00:43] <maxandersen> aslak: i see same "wait" when using jconsole?.so its not unique for us
[19:02:43] <aslak> i do see the hang when the vm is suspend=y, but not other wise
[19:03:07] <Snjeza> maxandersen: "and sure, tools jar aren't canceable - but thats why its even more important it goes into a background job." This job can go into the background. It uses the standard Eclipse progress dialog.
[19:03:18] <maxandersen> aslak: ok, but that is what you would do often right ?
[19:03:34] <maxandersen> Snjeza: well it doesnt even show up for me ;)
[19:03:44] * maxandersen needs to run now - ill be back later.
[19:03:54] <aslak> maxandersen, not for app servers, but for maven sure
[19:04:09] <aslak> i try to avoid having to debug that.. hehe
[19:04:55] <maxandersen> ;)
[19:05:12] <maxandersen> well also for junit startups etc.
[19:05:26] <maxandersen> anyway, my point is that a dynamic menu doesn't really work for this IMO.
[19:05:47] <maxandersen> and having separate type of launch config just feels weird?why not just the default one.
[19:05:51] <maxandersen> now really need to run/go
[19:05:58] <Snjeza> maxandersen: "on my machine it takes 20-30 seconds for the menu to appear." That depends on how many applications have been started with the  "suspend=y" option.  Maybe we would need to set the Discover Remote Applications preference to false  by default.
[19:06:37] <Snjeza> aslak: I can't reproduce your case. I have created projects: test1 and test2. test1 depends on test2. If I select test1 and call Configure..., both of the projects are added to the source. Could you send me an example of the projects you are using?
[19:14:09] <aslak> Snjeza, aa, but what makes it more tricky i guess, my Project A does not have a dep on Project B directly in eclispe, but via the Maven Dependency Container thinggy
[19:15:35] <aslak> Snjeza, so, "Project -> Java Build Path -> Projects" are Empty, but the deps are listed as Projects "Libraries -> Maven Dependencies"
[19:16:01] <aslak> this might be a m2eclipse issue
[19:23:16] <Snjeza> maxandersen: "when I disable that I don't get any dialog..." - If you don't have any remote application, the discovery remote application job lasts shortly and you don't get any dialog.
[19:24:10] <Snjeza> aslak: "so, "Project -> Java Build Path -> Projects" are Empty, but the deps are listed as Projects "Libraries -> Maven Dependencies"" - Ok, I will test Maven projects.
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[20:09:04] <Snjeza> aslak: I have created the following Maven projects:
[20:09:06] <Snjeza> parent
[20:09:07] <Snjeza>   - main
[20:09:09] <Snjeza>   - child
[20:09:11] <Snjeza>
[20:09:13] <Snjeza> The child project includes the commons-lang:commons-lang:20030203.000129 dependency.
[20:09:15] <Snjeza> The main project includes the child dependency.
[20:09:16] <Snjeza> All the dependencies are declared in the pom.xml.
[20:09:18] <Snjeza> When I select the main project and call the Configure... action, I get all the dependencies: main, child's classes, child's test-classes and commons-lang.
[20:09:20] <Snjeza> What version of m2eclipse do you use? I have tested using the 1.0.0.20110607-2117 version.
[20:10:00] <aslak> Snjeza, that's the same i get. it includes child test-classes and classes, but that is not enough to lookup the source
[20:12:13] <aslak> Snjeza, Child should be included as a 'Project', not just the output folders classes and test-classes
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[20:14:37] <Snjeza> aslak: I get all the dependencies: main project, child project, child's classes, child's test-classes and the child's commons-lang.
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[20:15:18] <Snjeza> aslak: try to call Maven>Update Project Dependencies
[20:15:19] <aslak> ok, i'm missing Child Project
[20:16:25] <aslak> using same m2eclipse v.
[20:17:17] <aslak> testing a refresh/update
[20:18:59] <Snjeza> aslak: can you check your m2eclipse version? You can select the Console view's menu and call Host OSGi Console. Enter "ss m2e" and you will see the m2eclipse version.
[20:20:26] <aslak> Snjeza, org.eclipse.m2e.core_1.0.0.20110607-2117
[20:20:56] <aslak> Snjeza, update did not fix it.. there might be some version issue here tho. 2 sec
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[20:37:27] <Snjeza> aslak: could you pack your projects and send them to me (snjezana.peco at redhat dot com)?
[20:38:24] <aslak> github.com/arquillian/arquillian-core
[20:38:24] <aslak> :)
[20:40:11] <Snjeza> aslak: what project do you select?
[20:40:50] <aslak> Snjeza, example-junit, should include example-domain
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[20:41:52] <Snjeza> aslak: ok, thanks. Will have to go now, but will try it later today.
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[21:00:12] <maxandersen> snj
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