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[00:18:41] <Snjeza> maxandersen: aslak: I have been trying to add the actions described in https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8548. Neither it is possible to add any action dynamically to the Debug As menu, nor it is possible to add any submenu to this menu. I could do the following:
[00:18:44] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBIDE-8548] Support auto discovery of remote processes for debugging [Open, Major, (JBossAS), snjeza] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8548
[00:18:47] <Snjeza> ...would call the Debug Launch Configuration page on which the user can choose any of the remote applications.
[00:18:48] <Snjeza> Do you have any suggestions related to this?
[00:21:14] <aslak> Snjeza, not sure 3 is enough to be convenient. two app servers, 2 eclipse, a few servlet containers and some maven builts.. quite normal here :)
[00:33:13] <Snjeza> aslak: I can add 5...7...10 actions, but can't add them dynamically. The Debug As menu is an Eclipse menu that allows adding actions only declaratively. I can add a fixed number of actions and control if they are shown.
[00:35:24] <aslak> Snjeza, aa ic
[00:49:55] <Snjeza> aslak: do you agree that I declare 7 actions. 6 remote applications would be shown in the Debug As menu . If you would have more than 6 apps and would like to debug any that isn't shown, you would need to call  the seventh action and choose the application using the Remote launch dialog. This  dialog would be similar to the Remote Java Application dialog. The difference would be that the...
[00:49:57] <Snjeza> ...Port field would be combo that would contain all remote apps. Those remote apps that aren't started in the Debug mode would be ignored.
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[10:03:36] <adietisheim> ping maxandersen
[10:04:02] <adietisheim> sorry, I'm later. It was a tough night, my daughter wake up several times.
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[10:17:39] <maxandersen> hi	 adietisheim
[10:17:55] <maxandersen> i havent seen rawblem either
[10:18:53] <adietisheim> maxandersen: yeah, was wondering, too
[10:19:16] <adietisheim> maxandersen: he's on skype but sleeping
[10:19:46] <maxandersen> maan this screen is bright
[10:20:16] <adietisheim> maxandersen: guess work as usual and try to meet when is on?
[10:22:33] <maxandersen> adietisheim: yeah
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[10:25:45] <maxandersen> morning koentsje
[10:25:58] <maxandersen> koentsje: where are we with Forge?
[10:26:05] <koentsje> maxandersen, good morning
[10:26:29] <maxandersen> adietisheim: is trunk compiling for you ?
[10:26:44] * maxandersen is wondering if his version fixes made his local build bad
[10:27:40] <koentsje> maxandersen, i am still working on separating the core and the ui stuff
[10:27:53] <koentsje> maxandersen, the first thing i want to do is have a forge plugin that can inform me about the start of the runtime
[10:28:11] <koentsje> i was thinking about using the ascii escape sequences
[10:28:33] <adietisheim> maxandersen: hmm, as does at least. did not try the whole trunk, but I can
[10:28:37] <koentsje> if that works we would be able to generalize this for other communication
[10:29:38] <koentsje> but right now i'm fighting with a unit test to try and test that
[10:29:39] <adietisheim> koentsje: hey koen, was just wondering: what kind of 'bus' did you now choose to communicate btw forge/eclipse?
[10:30:23] <koentsje> adietisheim, maxandersen and i decided to use the text input/output of the console
[10:30:42] <adietisheim> koentsje: ok, sounds like you chose the minimalistic approach then
[10:30:55] <maxandersen> koentsje: sounds good to me.
[10:31:10] <koentsje> adietisheim, yes i think simple and minimalistic is the way to go
[10:31:46] <adietisheim> koentsje: okiedokie. was just wondering since we talked about it at f2f. interesting stuff :)
[10:31:47] <koentsje> maxandersen, is there any place in the code base where i would find examples on how to make unit tests wait for other processes/threads?
[10:32:21] <maxandersen> koentsje: what kind of processes/threads - eclipse jobs? or bare bones ones ?
[10:32:43] <maxandersen> for clipse jobs there are (unfortunately) a few...
[10:32:45] <koentsje> maxandersen, a forge runtime process for instance ;)
[10:32:55] <maxandersen> for bare bones ones?not on top of my head
[10:33:02] <koentsje> darn
[10:33:16] <maxandersen> koentsje: launched with an eclipse launch? or java native Process?
[10:33:29] <koentsje> eclipse launch
[10:33:44] <koentsje> does that even matter?
[10:33:46] <maxandersen> koentsje: hmm - that one has methods to help with that I recall.
[10:33:55] <maxandersen> koentsje: what is it you exactly want to wait for ?
[10:34:16] <maxandersen> koentsje: that output gets ready or that the launch have been performed?
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[10:34:47] <koentsje> maxandersen, i need to have forge up and running to be able to check for the right output
[10:35:21] <maxandersen> so you need the launch console/output...
[10:35:39] <maxandersen> ?so dont you already have that in your code?
[10:36:35] <koentsje> maxandersen, i want to check for the post startup notification and write a test that guards that
[10:37:25] <koentsje> maxandersen, but i'll have the same problems when doing integration tests and verifying that the communication between forge runtime and tools stays sane
[10:38:07] <maxandersen> koentsje: but shouldn't you just do this by calling the processes "raw" and just wait for output stream of the process to have content ?
[10:38:30] <maxandersen> it sounds like you are doing more of a full integration test than "just" a unit test of the process communication?
[10:38:50] <koentsje> maxandersen, don't know what you mean by 'raw' but that's what i'm trying to do
[10:38:56] <maxandersen> ;)
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[10:40:03] <koentsje> maxandersen, i found a few sources of info yesterday evening but didn't pursue because i feared that i wouldn't find the solution anymore and have to go to bed very frustrated :)
[10:40:15] <maxandersen> :)
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[14:43:58] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: ping
[14:44:05] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: pong
[14:45:03] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: hi! I am currently reviewing the PRD document and have several questions
[14:45:15] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: shoot
[14:45:42] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: "@ManagedBean annotation support" - is it related to VPE?
[14:46:22] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: i.e. what we can do to support it in the VPE?
[14:46:46] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: this is to pick up such annotations in jsf projects - primarily a jsf core issue - the only thing VPE should care about  ( i believe) is EL evaluation should work against that...
[14:48:40] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: VPE do not evaluate ELs for beans
[14:48:54] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: huh? why not?
[14:49:11] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: ah never mind
[14:49:17] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: yes you are right ;)
[14:49:29] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: in VPE the expressions are just configured
[14:50:15] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: VPE evaluates only message properties. The only one thing we can for beans is ensure that Open on functionality will work with them
[14:51:23] <maxandersen> yes
[14:51:58] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: okay, next "Mylyn View Support - VPE"...
[14:52:45] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: what is expected to be done here?
[14:54:31] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: investigate if there is a sense in making the VPE related views support Mylyn focused selection.
[14:54:53] <maxandersen> vet atrrived - wil answer more slowly...brb
[14:58:22] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: I do not know anything about Mylyn focused selection yet. But I will create a JIRA for it.
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[15:01:04] <maxiphone> yradtsevich: Yes, its not a hard requirement mainly just there for investigation.
[15:01:19] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: ok
[15:02:24] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: next is "Mylyn View Support - AS7". - assigned now to Rob/Yahor. Should not it be assigned to Rob only?
[15:05:25] <maxandersen> The second one is normally related QE
[15:12:11] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: what do you mean? just a mistake in PRD?
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[15:13:56] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: yes should be one from QE team.
[15:14:04] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: which doc/link are you reading exactly btw?
[15:24:18] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: what line in that doc?
[15:24:33] <yradtsevich> 34
[15:24:45] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: ^^
[15:25:07] <maxandersen> yradtsevich: got it - QE is on vacation (national holiday) but it was one of the QE's that are supposed to be there.
[15:25:37] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: ok
[15:26:05] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: where to put links to related JIRAs? to the Ref column?
[15:26:37] <maxandersen> Rqmnt/Jira column
[15:27:40] <yradtsevich> maxandersen: ok, thanks!
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[16:35:15] <maxandersen> koentsje: zimbra'ed you on monday for forge just so i dont forget. do you have google plus?
[16:35:52] <koentsje> maxandersen, i don't have google plus
[16:36:00] <maxandersen> buh
[16:36:06] <koentsje> maxandersen, but don't worry, i won't forget
[16:36:23] <maxandersen> just wanted to try using it for a meetup ;)
[16:40:42] <fbricon> maxandersen: ping
[16:40:54] <maxandersen> fbricon: pong
[16:41:33] <fbricon> maxandersen: what plugin version should we use for the 3.2.x (im basically exporting the content of trunk into 3.2.x)
[16:43:14] <maxandersen> fbricon: whats the version bump/diff?
[16:43:54] <maxandersen> fbricon: but since it is a move in dependencies I would say 3.2.x<=trunk and trunk<=trunk+1
[16:43:55] <fbricon> wow, both branches are on 0.0.1-SNAPSHOT
[16:44:40] <fbricon> this is wrong
[16:45:16] <fbricon> parent poms are 0.0.1-SNAPSHOT, actual plugins are 1.2.0-SNAPSHOT in trunk
[16:46:08] <fbricon> and 1.1.0-SNAPSHOT in 3.2.x
[16:46:58] <maxandersen> yes the "middle-men" poms is what i'm fixing in trunk at the moment
[16:47:23] <fbricon> maxandersen: so I stick with 1.1.0 in 3.2.x ?
[16:47:52] <maxandersen> fbricon:  so set 1.2.0 in 3.2.x (moving to m2e 1.0 is a change not just done in a micro)
[16:48:09] <maxandersen> fbricon: and set trunk to 1.3.0 is my suggestion.
[16:48:26] * maxandersen really shuold get going on aligning those versions so this mess becomess less mess...
[16:48:34] <fbricon> ok
[16:54:45] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: i've created the .CR3 in jbide/jbds and put m2e stuff on it.
[16:55:56] <bfitzpat> maxandersen - thx
[16:56:20] <bfitzpat> I've dropped a note to doug palmer about the SOA 5.2 build, so hopefully will hear something soon about that
[16:56:39] <bfitzpat> I see dgolovin is on :)
[16:57:16] <bfitzpat> maxandersen, have you already asked dgolovin about the 3.2.1 CR2 build? don't want to ask again if it hasn't already been brought up
[16:57:48] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: no - haven't takled with dgolovin
[16:57:57] <bfitzpat> dgolovin - ping
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[17:47:52] <pmuir> fbricon: maxandersen: you guys got a minute?
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[17:48:40] <maxandersen> pmuir: shoot
[17:49:08] <pmuir> sgilda is writing the migration docs for as7
[17:49:18] <pmuir> and has hit a problem importing my quickstarts into eclipse
[17:49:29] <sgilda> well, not importing.
[17:49:39] <pmuir> thought it was best to discuss here with you guys around rather than in pm with me
[17:49:43] <sgilda> i've imported and deployed successfully
[17:49:48] <sgilda> right
[17:50:08] <maxandersen> whats the problem?
[17:50:09] <sgilda> when i started looking at the code, i ran into a few problems
[17:50:22] <maxandersen> sgilda: dont look, just run it ;)
[17:50:29] <sgilda> lol
[17:50:31] <sgilda> :)
[17:50:54] <sgilda> i had opened the numberguess home.xhtml file fine. then i decided i wanted line numbers. went into eclipse help to find out how to do that. before i could even open preferences, eclipse died and disappeared
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[17:51:09] <sgilda> when i start it with all files closed, i get this error:
[17:51:22] <maxandersen> sgilda: are  you running linux?
[17:51:30] <sgilda>  An internal error occurred during: "Updating Maven Dependencies". java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError at org.jboss.tools.common.model.options.PreferenceModelUtilities.getPreferenceModel(PreferenceModelUtilities.java:48)
[17:51:32] <maxandersen> sgilda: 64 bit or some latest fedora 15/ubuntu ?
[17:51:39] <sgilda> yes. fedora 14 32 bit
[17:51:53] <maxandersen> sgilda: mkay thats not the problem then
[17:52:06] <maxandersen> sgilda: you got the full stacktrace for that one ?
[17:52:15] <sgilda> yep. pastebin?
[17:52:24] <maxandersen> sgilda: and eclipse disapperaing normally means hard javavm crash...
[17:52:29] <maxandersen> sgilda: yes please
[17:52:30] <sgilda> ok
[17:52:34] <sgilda> hang on.
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[17:54:29] <sgilda> http://pastebin.com/SkPgXiE6
[17:55:36] <sgilda> Eclipse does start after that. Now, when I try to open a .xhtml file, i get another error and exception: An error has occurred. See error log for more details.
[17:55:36] <sgilda> Could not initialize class org.jboss.tools.common.model.options.PreferenceModelUtilities$PreferenceModelHolder
[17:55:51] <sgilda> do you want that trace too? or is it the same thing?
[17:57:36] <sgilda> maxandersen: entire trace of this error is here: http://pastebin.com/1mu9bv7r
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[17:59:20] <sgilda> strange! i closed and reopened (this must have been the 4th or 5th time) and it started without error this time!
[17:59:45] <maxandersen> sgilda: i think that pastebin is just a consequence of whatever happened when eclipse vanished for you
[18:00:00] <maxandersen> can you attach your full workspace log somewhere?
[18:00:12] <sgilda> interesting. i can open an xhtml file now too
[18:00:24] <sgilda> gremlins i guess ;-)
[18:00:27] <maxandersen> and is there any sign of hspid files anywhere ? (they get written when the vm crashes)
[18:00:41] * maxandersen dont like gremlins?unless they are on a silver screen or plate.
[18:00:47] <sgilda> that's the extension
[18:00:52] <sgilda> ?
[18:00:58] <sgilda> hspid?
[18:01:20] <maxandersen> hs_pid is in the file name
[18:01:45] <maxandersen> hs_pid*.log
[18:02:03] <maxandersen> should be in the current working directory of the java process that ran eclipse.
[18:02:19] <sgilda> no such file or directory
[18:02:26] <sgilda> oops
[18:02:28] <sgilda> typo
[18:02:42] <sgilda> still none
[18:02:48] <maxandersen> weird
[18:02:53] <sgilda> yeah. agree!
[18:02:55] <maxandersen> never seen eclipse vanish without such a file.
[18:03:09] <sgilda> duh!
[18:03:11] <sgilda> hang on again
[18:03:19] <maxandersen> how are you running eclipse?
[18:03:23] <sgilda> yes
[18:03:27] <maxandersen> using fedora bundled eclipse or your own ?
[18:03:34] <maxandersen> own downloaded i mean.
[18:03:42] <sgilda> the one from the quickstart... downloaded
[18:04:02] <sgilda> my cd / hadn't gone to the root. searching again
[18:04:36] <sgilda> taking a long time
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[18:05:25] <sgilda> this should find it, right: sudo find . -name hs_pid*.log
[18:05:33] <maxandersen> yes
[18:05:48] <sgilda> nothing
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[18:06:04] <sgilda> $ sudo find . -name hs_pid*.log
[18:06:04] <sgilda> find: `./home/sgilda/.gvfs': Permission denied
[18:06:15] <sgilda> nothing else
[18:09:07] <sgilda> this is the entire log from today: http://pastebin.com/GG3SLdST
[18:09:31] <sgilda> i'm back in business, so i'm happy
[18:09:44] <sgilda> i have to run out for a bit.
[18:09:57] <sgilda> pmuir and maxandersen, thanks for the help!
[18:10:46] <maxandersen> sgilda: the log revals you have two different workspace crashes
[18:11:37] <maxandersen> sgilda: could you please open a jira on https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBIDE with that error log attached ? there is a nullpointerexception in there we should look at.
[18:11:56] <maxandersen> ..but it doesnt explain the crash though ;(
[18:12:46] <sgilda> right. i'll try to recreate it when i get back. should be no longer than 30 minutes
[18:13:15] <sgilda> i'll create the jira when i get back. thanks!
[18:13:58] <sgilda> maxandersen: i'd like to see if i can recreate too and put the steps in it
[18:14:32] <maxandersen> sgilda: it might be a hard to reproduce scenario though..but please do try if you have time/chance.
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[18:31:34] <maxandersen> akazakov: ping
[18:32:04] <maxandersen> akazakov: ive just bumped commmon to 3.3.0 consistently. I could build all locally so I assume nothing breaks. so just a fyi ;)
[18:32:15] <maxandersen> actually commt is still running?.but anytime soon ;)
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[18:34:31] <akazakov> maxandersen: ok :)
[18:35:33] <maxandersen> akazakov: note, i couldnt use your patch since it didnt update the versions in the middle pom's? <? btw.
[18:36:14] <akazakov> middle pom?
[18:40:26] <akazakov> maxandersen: do you mean common/pom.xml ?
[18:41:46] <maxandersen> yes and tests/pom, plugins/pom etc.
[18:42:03] <maxandersen> anyway no biggie - got perl regular expression replacers and a few find scripts to help me ;)
[18:42:10] <maxandersen> the hard part is waiting for the build to verify
[18:43:32] <maxandersen> akazakov: ^
[18:46:19] <akazakov> maxandersen: yes, I changed versions of plugins.xml's and features.xml's only. And made sure that I didn't brake the build
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[18:47:15] <dgolovin> maxandersen: bfitzpat: Is it time to grab 3.2.1.CR1/4.1.0.CR2 bits for QA?
[18:47:33] <maxandersen> dgolovin: did you fix/see the installer issue?
[18:47:44] <maxandersen> JBDS-1658
[18:47:47] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1658] SOA-P 4.3.0 standalone is not properly added to Server Runtimes after installation. [Reopened, Critical, (installer), dgolovin] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1658
[18:48:03] <maxandersen> otherwise im good (i think). bfitzpat gets the final call.
[18:49:23] <dgolovin> maxandersen: haven't seen that yet, looking
[18:50:33] <bfitzpat> dgolovin - so long as we get that installer issue resolved, yes, I think we're good to cut loose with a CR2 build for QA
[18:51:04] <maxandersen> dgolovin: note i havent looked at what the installer issue is - just found it hanging on CR1 or Final so probbably missed by too strict filters ;)
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[18:53:35] <dgolovin> maxandersen, bfitzpat: I'll check installer and fix it if it is installer issue, shouldn't take a lot of time
[18:53:44] <bfitzpat> dgolovin - awesome
[18:57:41] * maxandersen feels like the only one using svn diff?.7th commit in 24hr to fix missing svn:ignores...
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[19:17:51] <dgolovin> maxandersen: bfitzpat: actually it is not Installer problem but run.jar MANIFEST.MF error
[19:17:58] <maxandersen> dgolovin: ?
[19:18:26] <dgolovin> maxandersen: run.jar in Standalone SOA has
[19:18:28] <dgolovin> Specification-Version: @build_version@
[19:18:41] <maxandersen> LOL
[19:18:42] <bfitzpat> lovely
[19:18:44] <dgolovin> but I can fix it by looking into implementation version attribute as well
[19:18:59] <dgolovin> Implementation-Version: 4.3.0.GA_SOA_STANDALONE (build: SVNTag=4.3.0.G
[19:19:01] <maxandersen> dgolovin: please do and we should get that reported to them.
[19:19:30] <dgolovin> maxandersen: I'll do both
[19:20:04] <maxandersen> thanks
[19:20:14] <bfitzpat> thanks dgolovin
[19:20:22] * maxandersen running of for agility now while WS is rebuilding in the background with lovely new version numbers for bfitzpat ;)
[19:20:42] <bfitzpat> thanks max!
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[19:23:19] <sgilda> maxandersen: i can't reproduce. is there a way to attach a file with the error log or do i just paste the log in the description?
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[19:29:53] <sgilda> max_agility: created jira: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9300 with log attached
[19:29:56] <jbott> Bug: [JBIDE-9300] Multiple workspace crashes using Eclipe Indigo [Open, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-9300
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[21:02:56] <dgolovin> bfitzpat: https://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/DevStudio_Stable_Branch/job/devstudio-4.1_stable_branch.updatesite/947 is running to include jBPM fixed in aggregated JBDS update site. It will trigger JBDS 4.1.0.CR2 build with fixed JBDS-1658
[21:03:00] <jbott> Bug: [JBDS-1658] SOA-P 4.3.0 standalone is not properly added to Server Runtimes after installation. [Reopened, Critical, (installer), dgolovin] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1658
[21:07:42] <dgolovin> bfitzpat: ups, fix for JBDS-1560 broke the build for 4.1.0.CR2
[21:07:45] <jbott> Feature Request: [JBDS-1560] Include BPEL Project Examples in JBDS [Reopened, Major, (SOA Platform), bfitzpat] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-1560
[21:08:21] <dgolovin> bfitzpat: will fix it after I take my kids home and get back to the office in 1.5 hour
[21:10:02] <bfitzpat> dgolovin - awesome. thx!
[21:18:47] <dgolovin> bfitzpat: https://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/DevStudio_Stable_Branch/job/devstudio-4.1_stable_branch.updatesite/948 is running and I'm out for 1.5 hour
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[22:11:19] <bfitzpat> dgolovin_afk - looks like it built successfully (when you get back)
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[22:32:55] <maxandersen> bfitzpat_afk:  in a few seconds/minutes WS is now consistently versioned 1.2.2
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[22:41:59] <bfitzpat> maxandersen - cool. thanks for tweaking that
[22:42:19] <maxandersen> lets see ho wmany builds I fail with it ;)
[22:42:29] * maxandersen wonders what the product build will say?.
[22:42:53] <bfitzpat> did you update in just trunk or trunk + 3.2.x branch?
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[22:57:39] <maxandersen> bfitzpat: this is only trunk
[22:57:48] <maxandersen> too big a chance to have that kind of fun in branch.
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[23:25:17] <bfitzpat> makes sense
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