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[10:12:55] <viggo> anyone with input to my problem with persistence.xml and non-jta-data-source? http://community.jboss.org/thread/172510
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[12:13:34] <viggo> any clue how to debug with an embedded (Jboss) container from Eclipse? I've seen some descriptions about remote jboss container, but not embedded
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[13:29:24] <jose_freitas> good morning guys
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[13:53:55] <tombee> Anyone else had trouble with getting Arquillian tests in a TestNG group to be excluded by maven-surefire-plugin ?
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[13:54:56] <jose_freitas> I don't use TestNG tombee, but if you feel that it's a bug, can you fire a jira issue please?
[13:55:14] <tombee> I don't know if it's a bug :(  not experienced enough with it.
[13:55:42] <tombee> I was looking to categorise my tests somehow, so that my default maven profile would not trigger Arquillian tests.
[13:56:10] <jose_freitas> hm
[13:56:23] <tombee> So that only my arq-jbossas-managed would fire those tests off, people in #java suggested they had done this themselves with TestNG and 'groups'
[13:56:41] <tombee> I set it up, but no luck.  I have posted on the Arquillian user forum about it.
[13:57:16] <tombee> It seems that TestNG tries to run the @BeforeSuite method in the Arquillian base class even if the test itself is ignored.
[13:58:14] <tombee> If I exclude using a **/*BeanTest.java pattern for example, then this works fine.  The tests do not run, I just get this behaviour when I select the 'unit' TestNG group.
[13:58:34] <jose_freitas> hmm
[13:58:49] <jose_freitas> it might be a bug
[13:59:00] <tombee> Not familiar enough with TestNG, JBoss or Arquillian to know if it's something I'm doing wrong, I'm just messing around as I've never used JBoss before :)
[13:59:04] <jose_freitas> testng doesn't provide to many hooks for arquillian
[13:59:44] <tombee> http://community.jboss.org/thread/172514?tstart=0
[14:00:02] <tombee> This is the user forum post, I can post more thorough information if necessary.
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[14:02:50] <tombee> It was all working fine under JUnit, it's just I couldn't easily separate my tests into different maven profiles without using a filename pattern to exclude my Arquillian tests.  I thought as projects get larger, it'd become a pain to maintain something like that.
[14:06:14] <tombee> jose_freitas: also I noticed in the testng examples in github, these groups are not used there either: https://github.com/arquillian/arquillian/blob/master/examples/testng/pom.xml#L220
[14:08:26] <jose_freitas> tombee: which arquillian version are you using?
[14:09:13] <tombee> 1.0.0.CR1
[14:09:39] <jose_freitas> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-56
[14:09:40] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-56] @Before/@After should only be executed on the server side [Closed (Done) Bug, Major, Aslak Knutsen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-56
[14:09:42] <jose_freitas> try CR4
[14:09:50] <jose_freitas> this bug was fixed on CR2
[14:10:30] <tombee> Trying! :)
[14:12:34] <tombee> Ah hrm, it's broken one of my other dependencies.
[14:13:12] <jose_freitas> what dependency?
[14:13:16] <jose_freitas> which*
[14:13:17] <tombee> package org.jboss.shrinkwrap.resolver.api.maven does not exist
[14:13:35] <jose_freitas> which shrinkwrap resolver version are you using?
[14:14:09] <tombee> MavenDependencyResolver / MavenBuilderImpl
[14:14:48] <jose_freitas> try 1.0.0-beta-5
[14:18:04] <tombee> I guess I need an alternative repository for that jose_freitas ?
[14:18:18] <jose_freitas> nope
[14:18:25] <jose_freitas> are you using jboss repo?
[14:18:53] <jose_freitas> https://repository.jboss.org/
[14:19:38] <tombee> Yeah :)
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[14:20:10] <jose_freitas> https://repository.jboss.org/
[14:20:14] <jose_freitas> http://repository.jboss.org/nexus/content/groups/public-jboss
[14:20:24] <jose_freitas> ^ the correct url
[14:21:15] <jose_freitas> well, it should be there
[14:21:24] <jose_freitas> https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~shrinkwrap-maven-resolver
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[14:28:44] <tombee> Ahhh it's in a separate package now!
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[14:49:45] <jose_freitas> tombee: does it work?
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[14:53:43] <tombee> jose_freitas: It's complaining now that it can't find my Arquillian config.  I was just reading some posts about this on the forum.
[14:53:56] <tombee> It was fine before, so maybe something's changed and I'm not doing it right any more.
[14:54:12] <tombee>  "Cannot obtain Arquillian config for:"
[14:54:58] <jose_freitas> you using jboss 7?
[14:56:36] <tombee> 7.0.1.Final
[14:57:02] <tombee> http://community.jboss.org/message/622637
[14:57:14] <tombee> jose_freitas: I had seen this looks similar
[14:58:10] <jose_freitas> add this: <defaultProtocol type="Servlet 3.0" />
[14:58:16] <jose_freitas> to you arquillian.xml
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[15:13:54] <tombee> Still checking things over here jose_freitas, added that in and the container doesn't seem to be starting now.
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[15:18:40] <tombee> jose_freitas: yeah hmm, the container doesn't seem to start up with that in there
[15:19:23] <jose_freitas> managed container tombee?
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[15:23:10] <tombee> yep
[15:25:35] <jose_freitas> do you have jboss_home setup?
[15:25:39] <tombee> Ahhhh, it says on there to add dependency: org.jboss.arquillian.protocol:arquillian-protocol-servlet
[15:25:46] <tombee> Yes I do :)
[15:26:33] <jose_freitas> ahhn
[15:26:36] <jose_freitas> true
[15:26:50] <jose_freitas> servlet 3.0 protocol require that
[15:27:30] <tombee> Yes it's getting further this time :)
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[15:33:27] <jose_freitas> did it work out with the groups too?
[15:33:33] <tombee> TestNG seems to think that all the @Before etc. are unit tests.
[15:33:35] <tombee> arquillianBeforeClass()  Time elapsed: 0 sec  <<< FAILURE!
[15:33:39] <tombee> No :(
[15:33:55] <tombee> Well, I think it will work with groups when I fix that above error :)
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[15:40:51] <jose_freitas> what is the error?
[15:43:29] <tombee> jose_freitas: Just the one I pasted above, seems to think that arquillianBeforeClass is a unit test and fails.
[15:44:18] <tombee> Caused by: java.lang.Exception: {"Services with missing/unavailable dependencies" => ["jboss.deployment.unit.\"test.war\".CONFIGURE_MODULE missing [ jboss.module.information.service.\"deployment.arquillian-service\".main ]"]}
[15:44:45] <tombee> Should I be bundling in the testng.xml with my war ?
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[15:45:51] <tombee> Maybe I'm referencing 7.0.0 in the pom or something
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[16:14:42] <tombee> jose_freitas: Ah the versions of the arquillian container etc still reference 7.0.0.CR1 or something in the kitchensink maven archetype.
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[16:14:52] <tombee> jose_freitas: Updated that to 7.0.1, and testng to 6.1.1 and now I'm running
[16:15:28] <jose_freitas> cool!
[16:16:01] <jose_freitas> group thing is working too?:
[16:17:29] <tombee> just tried it and no it's not working :(
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[16:19:27] <tombee> jose_freitas: It's still trying to run the arquillianBeforeSuite method, even though that test is ignored via group.
[16:20:53] <tombee> jose_freitas: it's 'kind of' working, as if I run with -Dtestng.groups="integration" I get more errors than when I do -Dtestng.groups="unit"
[16:25:01] <jose_freitas> hm
[16:25:09] <jose_freitas> well, that's something
[16:25:32] <jose_freitas> so the tests are being ignored
[16:25:40] <jose_freitas> I mean the arquillian group
[16:26:01] <jose_freitas> and are you getting any errors when executing arquillianBeforeSuite ?
[16:27:52] <tombee> works fine in the container
[16:28:15] <tombee> my test passes when i run with my managed profile
[16:28:27] <tombee> if i run my default, that runs only unit tests, then it fails because it tries to run that
[16:29:27] <jose_freitas> could be a testng bug?
[16:30:13] <tombee> Yeah possibly :) I have no idea :)
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[17:13:10] <kpiwko> ALR: hi Andrew
[17:13:18] <ALR> kpiwko: Hiya
[17:13:58] <kpiwko> ALR: If I'm going to make a ShrinkWrap Importer, should I extend AssignableBase?
[17:14:43] <kpiwko> the problem is that AssignableBase is in impl package, however, I'm not sure if Assignable.as(TYPE) will work correctly without delegation
[17:15:30] <ALR> kpiwko: Explain the working correctly without delegation bit?
[17:17:54] <kpiwko> ALR: if I got the logic behing Assignable.as(TYPE) correctly, it means that I can wrap any Assignable to a different one...however, the current archive content before cast is kept in delegate and accessed via AssignableBase.getArchive()
[17:18:32] <ALR> Yes, that's the logic, you got it correctly.
[17:18:45] <ALR> Gotcha, you're looking for the underlying object
[17:18:49] <ALR> Not the current one.
[17:19:06] <ALR> Though I'm still not getting enough context to figure the root problem you're trying to solve.
[17:19:22] <ALR> AssignableBase is a convenience type so implement "as()" for you
[17:19:32] <ALR> No more no less :)
[17:19:39] <ALR> So what importer cannot use that?
[17:19:47] <kpiwko> let me be more concrete
[17:22:25] <kpiwko> ALR: I'm playing with a MavenImporter, as SHRINKWRAP-325...if I create the importer, populate and that cast for instance to ZipImporter, how can I ensure the ZipImporter will hold the content I populated?
[17:22:28] <jbossbot> jira [SHRINKWRAP-325] ShrinkWrap.create(MavenImporter.class) that creates a WebArchive that adds all WEB-INF descriptors, classes, test classes and webapp resources too (not just dependencies and test dependencies) [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Critical, Karel Piwko] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SHRINKWRAP-325
[17:23:05] <kpiwko> with AssignableBase, it is clear, it's already done for me
[17:25:11] * ALR thinking on that
[17:25:45] <ALR> Populate and cast to ZipImporter is where you lose me.
[17:26:06] <ALR> Seems you'd populate the MavenImporter, then export to ZIP, and then use the ZipImporter to import the ZIP.
[17:26:34] <ALR> So that way there's no loss of delegation, but that's requiring some ZIP export.
[17:26:53] <ALR> Ah I see, the file you have from Maven is already a ZIP file
[17:27:01] <kpiwko> ALR: sorry for blurred explanation
[17:27:02] <ALR> You want to pass that as the underlying content to ZipImporter
[17:27:06] <kpiwko> ALR: yes
[17:27:12] <ALR> One sec
[17:27:51] <kpiwko> ALR: I think I got the method which shows me how that's done...ServiceExtensionLoader.createExtension()
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[17:28:37] <tombee> jose_freitas: thank you for your help btw! Appreciated.
[17:28:53] <ALR> kpiwko: That's only for registration of importers, yes
[17:29:28] <kpiwko> ALR: so If I create a constructor with Archive<?> argument, ShrinkWrap will actually do the rest for me
[17:29:33] <ALR> kpiwko: basiicaly you just need to go from your MavenImporter (which has a reference to a file) to ZipImporter.importAs(File)
[17:29:49] <ALR> kpiwko: Yes.
[17:30:21] <ALR> But what you need to pass into ZipImporter.importAs() is the output of what the MavenImporter found
[17:30:38] <ALR> Which is not what goes into the ZipImporterImpl ctor
[17:30:49] <ALR> That archive is the target ShirnkWrap archive you'll be importing into
[17:33:13] <kpiwko> ALR: we are speaking different things, but now I know what I have to do to let it work the way I want
[17:33:16] <kpiwko> :)
[17:34:28] <ALR> If you're sure. :)
[17:34:34] <ALR> Next time we'll start at the top of the context.
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[19:06:43] <viggo> is it possible to inject a PersistentContext into a test?
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[19:45:19] <tombee> jose_freitas: are you still around?
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[19:51:09] <ALR> viggo: Yes, but indirectly
[19:51:23] <ALR> Usually I expose the EntityManager via an EJB or a CDI bean
[19:51:33] <ALR> And inject that CDI or EJB into the test
[19:51:43] <ALR> So some indirection works well there
[19:51:54] <viggo> ALR: I managed to do it, had to add beans.xml to my deployment. It's available in the tests, but not in the method annotated with @BeforeClass. Any reason for that?
[19:52:10] <ALR> Yes, @BeforeClass is before deployment takes place
[19:52:31] <viggo> ALR: ok, that explains a lot:)
[19:54:01] <viggo> ALR: So I won't be able to do any initialization of database values in the @BeforeClass annotated method, even if the EntityManager is exposed using an EJB or CDI bean?
[19:56:06] <ALR> viggo: I usually clean/clear the DB in @Before methods
[19:56:16] <ALR> To ensure that even between tests, things get reset to a known state
[19:56:45] <ALR> Of course, you can interact with the DB directly if you want in @BeforeClass.  Just not via any mechanism that's through a deployment
[19:57:08] <ALR> This kinda stuff really speaks to some refactoring of the generic event model for Arquillian that Aslak and I have recently discussed
[19:59:18] <tombee> Anyone know why the TestNG Arquillian base class has 'alwaysRun' set to true on all of the Before/After methods? (@BeforeSuite(alwaysRun = true)  public void arquillianBeforeSuite() throws Exception)
[20:00:18] <tombee> If those weren't there, I think the TestNG groups would work then, so that I can group my unit tests separately and run them separately
[20:00:23] <viggo> ALR: Thanks for useful input!
[20:00:47] <ALR> viggo: Sure thing.
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[20:20:33] <kpiwko> ge0ffrey: hi
[20:20:43] <viggo> ALR: Hope you and Aslak will come to a conclusion on the generic event model :)
[20:20:59] <ALR> viggo: It'll likely have to be some time off.
[20:21:08] <ALR> Due to API changes that would be required.
[20:21:11] <ALR> Like in ARQ 2.0
[20:21:30] <viggo> ALR: I see, better to do it properly when you first do it:)
[20:21:46] <tombee> ALR: do you have any info on the question above? :)
[20:21:52] <ALR> Yeah, but the 1.0 API is published.
[20:22:04] <ALR> tombee: No, of that I'm not sure.
[20:22:25] <ALR> tombee: Wanna tinker around in there and remove the "alwaysRun" to see what happens?
[20:22:28] <tombee> Would be nice to not have those alwaysRun params there, so that it wouldn't break my groups :(
[20:22:54] <ALR> tombee: Recommend you build up Arquillian and see what it'll take to get you that versatility, then.
[20:23:03] <tombee> ok :)
[20:23:11] <ALR> Already I don't like the TestNG extension because it relies upon a base class for your test
[20:23:27] <ALR> Instead of JUnit, which has @RunWith(Arquillian.class)
[20:23:29] <tombee> Yeah that's kinda nasty.
[20:23:59] <tombee> I'm just playing around with Arquillian, only discovered it a few days ago
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[20:25:18] <tombee> Didn't get a very friendly response in #java when I asked for help though :)
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[20:36:31] <ge0ffrey> kpiwko: hi, gotta go, I 'll be around tomorrow
[20:37:14] <tombee> ALR: Yeahh! it works
[20:37:15] <tombee> :D
[20:37:19] <kpiwko> ge0ffrey: kk
[20:38:27] <tombee> ALR: will have to test it in a managed container now though
[20:38:47] <ALR> tombee: :)
[20:39:03] <ALR> tombee: ##java is not the nicest place.
[20:39:07] <ALR> Also it's too general.
[20:39:21] <ALR> So welcome to the community.
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[20:39:53] <ALR> tombee: If you open a JIRA for the issue you can eventually put in a pull request; Aslak will offer a review and push it upstream when you're all in agreement.
[20:40:05] <ALR> And I can help you w/ any ShrinkWrap development stuff
[20:40:17] <tombee> Cool, I'll test it some more.
[20:40:25] <ALR> Great
[20:40:42] <ALR> Recommend putting your dev in its own topic branch named after the JIRA issue
[20:42:34] <tombee> OK sounds good, I'll re-do it afterwards, the change is trivial.
[20:42:55] <tombee> Just thinking there must a reason that alwaysRun is there...
[20:43:00] <tombee> be*
[20:46:06] <ALR> Of the history I'm not sure.
[20:46:09] <ALR> kpiwko: AS7-1415
[20:46:10] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-1415] Allow Arquillian tests to monitor server and deployment status explicitly [Open (Unresolved) Sub-task, Major, Andrew Rubinger] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-1415
[20:46:18] <ALR> What exactly are we looking for here?
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[22:27:37] <tombee> hmm have cloned the repository, installed the testng module and it won't work now :(
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[23:38:38] <tombee> ALR: I submitted a JIRA, but Aslak added that stuff for a good reason :(
[23:39:11] <ALR> tombee: And now you know.  Did he suggest a workaround?
[23:39:38] <ALR> We've also talked about some mods to TestNG to give us hooks to IHookable so we don't need the Arquillian base class in TestNG
[23:39:53] <tombee> ALR: Well I already have a workaround, but it's crap, having a separate test suite .xml just for the Arquillian tests.
[23:40:00] <ALR> Yeah.
[23:40:11] <ALR> What was the reason for setting that flag to "true"?
[23:40:23] <tombee> So that those methods run even after a failure.
[23:40:41] <tombee> So really, TestNG need to split that out into two parameters.
[23:40:56] <tombee> As it doubles up for 'run in all groups regardless of exclusion' and 'run even after failure'
[23:41:20] <tombee> they should have a flag for say 'runAfterFailure'
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[23:52:00] <ALR> tombee: Wanna become our TestNG specialist?
[23:52:13] <ALR> We'll run the ideas through Cedric and see what we can't get upstream.
[23:52:19] <ALR> We need better integration there.
[23:54:00] <tombee> Heh I'd love to, but I don't have much time at all to spare currently, things are pretty chaotic. :)
[23:54:14] <tombee> Plus I have no real experience in TestNG at all, I picked it up yesterday.
[23:56:13] <ALR> Don't blame me for recruiting spare cycles from competent parties.
[23:56:14] <ALR> :P
[23:56:18] <tombee> will hang around though, get some more experience with this stuff :)
[23:56:45] <tombee> Competent? that's debatable
[23:56:47] <tombee> :)
[23:57:12] <tombee> im like that monkey with the typewriter you always hear about, the one that gets things right by chance
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