September 12, 2011  
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[14:17:17] <kpiwko> alesj: hi
[14:20:17] <alesj> kpiwko: wazup?
[14:20:18] <kpiwko> alesj: do you know what the status of mc-like deployments in AS7? Looks like it was removed in master, however it was released as a part of 7.0.1...I'm trying to specify a login-module in *jboss-beans.xml but in vain and documentation is lacking
[14:21:01] <alesj> there is support in current master
[14:21:09] <alesj> it didn't make it into 7.0.1
[14:21:33] <alesj> but it should be the same as in AS5/6
[14:21:43] <alesj> if it's not, let me know, and i'll fix few things
[14:22:01] <alesj> kpiwko: ^
[14:22:16] <kpiwko> alesj: ok, I'll try it with the master
[14:22:36] <alesj> kpiwko: the module was renamed to pojo
[14:22:38] <alesj> from mc
[14:22:46] <kpiwko> alesj: good to know
[14:23:04] <kpiwko> alesj: one more question, is there an as7 way how to specify security-domain in application? e.g. without touching standalone/domain.xml ?
[14:24:24] <kpiwko> alesj: or it is meant to be done via *jboss-beans.xml?
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[14:25:57] <alesj> kpiwko: dunno
[14:26:20] <alesj> kpiwko: perhaps ask on the dev ml
[14:26:30] <kpiwko> alesj: ok
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[14:54:23] <ge0ffrey> does jboss as 7 embedded work?
[14:54:28] <ge0ffrey> with arquillian
[14:55:09] <ge0ffrey> There's a Beta3 release, but no CR1 or Final like with managed and remote
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[15:33:47] <jose_freitas> ge0ffrey: not yet
[15:35:15] <jose_freitas> the biggest problem is that with embedded mode, you'd have to start jboss modules yourself to make the container work
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[15:36:54] <ge0ffrey> jose_freitas: I am trying to migrate guvnor to weld-seam3-arquillian
[15:37:26] <ge0ffrey> but I am having lots of troubles with arquillian :/ I was hoping that jboss 7 embedded solves most of my troubles
[15:37:49] <ge0ffrey> on 1 side I need embedded, because we need to be able to debug, and to keep the build simple
[15:38:00] <ge0ffrey> and to make sure no process keep alive on hudson
[15:38:37] <ge0ffrey> other hand, embedded doesn't work (tomcat etc at least) because all sorts of beans.xml on the classpath activate
[15:39:07] <ge0ffrey> because there is no seperation of test classpath and container classpath (which I am hoping jboss 7 is better at)
[16:02:08] <jose_freitas> can't you use managed?
[16:02:12] <jose_freitas> ge0ffrey ^
[16:03:04] <jose_freitas> you can debug on both remote and managed containers
[16:03:14] <ge0ffrey> jose_freitas: yea, but it's a whole setup
[16:03:35] <ge0ffrey> it too big of a hoop to jump through for our community contributors
[16:04:08] <ge0ffrey> now, we're not using arquillian, and we can "just debug"
[16:04:54] <ge0ffrey> I am trying to evangalize the use of dependency injection with weld-seam3 to them, so any regression is frowned upon :)
[16:05:08] <jose_freitas> :)
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[16:07:23] <jose_freitas> I don't get it why you couldn't debug with arquillian
[16:07:30] <jose_freitas> is it something specific for guvnor?
[16:07:54] <ge0ffrey> no, just setting a breakpoint and run the test in debug mode doesn't work with managed or remote mode
[16:08:19] <ge0ffrey> because that code is run in a different jvm
[16:08:34] <ge0ffrey> that's one of the reasons I am hoping that embedded works
[16:09:41] <jose_freitas> hm
[16:10:00] <ge0ffrey> the arq manual does explain how to get debug to work with managed or remote, but it's too many hoops for our contributors
[16:10:02] <jose_freitas> but you can start jboss as debug mode
[16:10:15] <jose_freitas> using jboss tools is fairly easy
[16:10:28] <jose_freitas> you just start jboss at debug mode with a click
[16:10:38] <jose_freitas> and then you can debug your code
[16:10:54] <jose_freitas> have you tried that?
[16:10:55] <ge0ffrey> most are not using jboss tools or even have jboss installed for tests
[16:11:01] <jose_freitas> hmmm
[16:11:08] <ge0ffrey> others use intellij (including myself)
[16:11:44] <ge0ffrey> jose_freitas: I think we even have someone using netbeans
[16:12:14] <jose_freitas> I'm not a fond of embedded containers... I normally use remote for development and managed for nightly builds
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[16:12:38] <jose_freitas> using remote is much more productive too cause we don't need to start the container each time too
[16:13:00] <jose_freitas> but I don't have any experience with intellij
[16:13:04] <ge0ffrey> hmm, good point
[16:13:13] <ge0ffrey> although jboss 7 boots fast enough
[16:13:57] <jose_freitas> btw, interesting project this guvnor
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