[00:26:38] <PeteRoyle> Morning. I'm trying to build forge from git and getting compile error on ResourceUtil.java (invalid inferred types). Anyone else seen this?
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[00:55:43] <Diablo-D3> hey ALR
[00:55:50] <ALR> Diablo-D3: Hey
[00:55:51] <Diablo-D3> stuartdouglas told me to bug you
[00:56:05] <ALR> Damn you, stuartdouglas
[00:56:10] <ALR> Wassup?
[00:56:10] <stuartdouglas> hehe
[00:56:11] <Diablo-D3> what is required on a class and method to trigger a cron
[00:56:26] <stuartdouglas> as in, ejb timer service
[00:56:29] <Diablo-D3> I have @Named @Singleton on the class, @Schedule(minute="*") on the method
[00:56:39] <ALR> Ooohhh
[00:57:00] <ALR> @Schedule() sets the syntax
[00:57:00] <Diablo-D3> have a debug sysout in the method, its saying nothing
[00:57:09] <ALR> minute="*" ain't doing it?
[00:57:13] <Diablo-D3> nope
[00:57:27] <Diablo-D3> I originally had it */1, but stuartdouglas said try *
[00:57:34] <ALR> One sec
[00:57:39] * ALR pulls spec
[00:57:48] <stuartdouglas> they both should work I think
[00:59:03] <ALR> Where's @Timeout?
[00:59:41] <ALR> "*" is a valid wildcard
[01:00:03] <ALR> The second, minute, and hour attributes have a default value of ?0?.
[01:00:03] <ALR> The dayOfMonth, month, dayOfWeek, and year attributes have a default value of ?*?.
[01:00:41] <ALR> In short, @Schedule(minute="*") on the method should do it.
[01:01:00] <ALR> Or on the class if you wanna apply it to all business methods.
[01:01:00] <Diablo-D3> so what did I do wrong
[01:01:11] <ALR> Sure your EJB is getting deployed?
[01:01:22] <Diablo-D3> yes, jboss says ServerBackend/no-interface -> EJB3.1 no-interface view
[01:01:22] <ALR> Sure you're on a version of an app server which supports the timer server?
[01:01:26] <ALR> *timer service
[01:01:29] <Diablo-D3> ServerBackend is the bean
[01:01:32] <Diablo-D3> and this is AS6
[01:01:57] <ALR> For funsies, pastebin the bean impl class?
[01:02:40] <Diablo-D3> http://pastebin.com/cTJi6U0C
[01:02:46] <Diablo-D3> pretend I turned java syntax coloring on
[01:03:47] <ALR> Looks super awesome to me.
[01:04:05] <Diablo-D3> also, I think Ive discovered beans dont do @PostConstruct
[01:04:31] <ALR> Diablo-D3: Now, the bean may simply not exist yet
[01:04:37] <ALR> When are you expecting it to?
[01:04:43] <ALR> Because you have no @Startup annotation
[01:04:51] <Diablo-D3> but its @Singleton
[01:04:54] <ALR> So?
[01:04:59] <Diablo-D3> goddamnit I hate ejb
[01:05:02] <Diablo-D3> why cant everything be cdi
[01:05:18] <ALR> Hehe, don't get me started.
[01:05:44] <ALR> @Startup is gonna trigger @Singletons to be created eagerly alongside deployment
[01:05:57] <Diablo-D3> well, it was originally @ApplicationScoped
[01:06:03] <ALR> That'd be CDI.
[01:06:10] <Diablo-D3> yes, delicious cdi
[01:06:17] <ALR> CDI has its gaps too.
[01:06:24] <ALR> Currently met much better by EJB
[01:06:25] <Diablo-D3> one of the gaps being no cron
[01:06:40] <ALR> No Tx another.  No security another.
[01:06:53] <Diablo-D3> it too has security
[01:06:55] <ALR> No pooling, caching.
[01:06:57] <Diablo-D3> seam security, duh
[01:07:02] <ALR> Seam != CDI.
[01:07:08] <ALR> Weld == CDI.
[01:07:13] <Diablo-D3> thats a misleading mathematical formula
[01:07:34] <Diablo-D3> Seam 3 == (stuff + CDI)
[01:08:08] <ALR> As I said, Seam != CDI. :P
[01:08:13] <Diablo-D3> heh
[01:08:25] <Diablo-D3> seriously though, this is why CDI is so good at being extendable
[01:08:36] <ALR> Preaching to the choir, my friend.
[01:08:38] <Diablo-D3> heheh
[01:08:41] <ALR> And I'm an EJB guy.
[01:09:05] <ALR> In any case, see how @Startup treats you.
[01:09:15] <Diablo-D3> it seems to have worked
[01:09:29] <stuartdouglas> the timer should still run even without @startup though right?
[01:09:57] <ALR> For sure.
[01:10:13] <ALR> @Schedule is about the EJB, not about any particular instance.
[01:10:14] <stuartdouglas> does the AS6 timer service use quartz?
[01:10:28] <Diablo-D3> stuartdouglas: yeah but it seems I have to create the EJB instance first then
[01:10:30] <ALR> I forget, Carlo rewrote it so many times.
[01:10:39] <ALR> But unfortunately AS6 is done-zo.
[01:10:50] <ALR> So we have to figure what makes it work here, and go with that workaround.
[01:10:53] <Diablo-D3> btw, there apparently is a seam cron project
[01:10:57] <ALR> No more patches are going upstream there.
[01:11:01] <stuartdouglas> vapourware
[01:11:05] <Diablo-D3> yeah it seems dead
[01:11:20] <ALR> Diablo-D3: Wanna ressurrect it?
[01:11:27] <ALR> I'll put you in touch with the Right People.
[01:11:31] <Diablo-D3> sigh, not particularly =/
[01:11:34] <ALR> (Seam Cron, not AS6)
[01:11:36] <Diablo-D3> I need a cloning machine
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[01:11:49] <Diablo-D3> I just have to accept the fact I cant be everywhere at once even though I wish I could
[01:11:58] <Diablo-D3> theres like 9000 projects that beg for my help
[01:12:27] <Diablo-D3> and I have to turn most of them down
[01:12:56] <ALR> Yeah, but we're JBoss.
[01:13:07] <ALR> And we don't beg.
[01:13:22] <ALR> Want it working, we got the best guys in the world to help you get set up. :)
[01:13:30] <Diablo-D3> Heh =P
[01:13:38] <Diablo-D3> I think the best thing I can do for seam right now is to write code that uses seam 3
[01:13:52] <Diablo-D3> just so people get to experience it in a real project
[01:14:08] <ALR> Sure.
[01:14:15] <ALR> Any chance you're at JBossWorld now?
[01:14:18] <Diablo-D3> nope
[01:14:24] <ALR> stuartdouglas: BTW, we gotta get you here next year.
[01:14:25] * Diablo-D3 never goes to stuff like that
[01:14:57] <Diablo-D3> btw, said project also uses richfaces, and is targeting jboss as (so, as, hibernate, hornetq, etc)
[01:14:59] <stuartdouglas> I hope so
[01:15:10] <Diablo-D3> and its using resteasy too
[01:15:22] <stuartdouglas> I will have to propose an awesome presentation
[01:15:26] <ALR> Wow, you built a JBoss Stack Demo.
[01:15:34] <Diablo-D3> hahah
[01:15:45] <ALR> stuartdouglas: Just put the word "Infinispan" or "Seam" in the title.
[01:16:01] <Diablo-D3> oh, speaking of infinispan
[01:16:06] <ALR> Diablo-D3: We made a bunch of good projects.  You don't have to use ALL of them.
[01:16:12] * Diablo-D3 is a very minor IS developer of very small proportions
[01:17:01] <Diablo-D3> ALR: btw, yes I really do
[01:17:13] <Diablo-D3> I mean, its not like I set out to use them all
[01:17:22] <Diablo-D3> but like, the project communicates with a preexisting client app
[01:17:34] <Diablo-D3> it uses a rest json api
[01:17:37] <Diablo-D3> so theres resteasy...
[01:17:45] <Diablo-D3> and then I also want ajax live updating
[01:17:50] <ALR> Bill will be happy to hear that.
[01:17:51] <Diablo-D3> so theres richfaces and hornetq
[01:17:57] <ALR> And Jay will be happy to hear that.
[01:18:12] <Diablo-D3> and then it needs to store stuff in a db, so theres hibernate
[01:18:22] <ALR> The New Stuff:
[01:18:25] <Diablo-D3> and I need to run it on a javaee server, so theres all of AS
[01:18:30] <ALR> Hibernate adaptor for Infinispan.
[01:18:34] <Diablo-D3> and it uses seam, so theres that
[01:18:36] <ALR> JPA for NoSQL
[01:18:40] <Diablo-D3> ALR: yeeaaaahhh
[01:18:41] <ALR> Brand-new!
[01:18:53] <Diablo-D3> I was writing a small project to put sql on IS
[01:18:54] <ALR> Anyway, I gotta run.
[01:18:57] <Diablo-D3> I guess I can quit that now
[01:18:59] <ALR> Glad @Startup worked
[01:19:11] <ALR> Time to shower up and change for Yet More Corporate Drinking
[01:19:17] <Diablo-D3> lol seeya alr
[01:19:20] <ALR> Pace.
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[01:47:45] <PeteRoyle> I've downloaded Forge snaoshot and still not sure how to get arquillian plugin working. Can anyone help please?
[02:18:43] <Diablo-D3> ALR: you know, Im an idiot
[02:18:50] <Diablo-D3> ALR: it ISNT working
[02:21:10] <Diablo-D3> ALR: but I figured it out
[02:21:20] <Diablo-D3> I need minute="*", hour="*"
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[02:35:59] <ianbrandt> aslak: I'm getting a test failure on unchanged HEAD for arquillian-core and arquillian-container-tomcat at shouldBeAbleToInjectMembersIntoTestClass(org.jboss.arquillian.container.tomcat.embedded_6.TomcatEmbeddedInContainerTestCase:94).  It looks like @Resource injection into the in-container test case isn't working.  As far as I can tell everything is configured properly.  The in-container-web.xml has a corresponding <env-
[02:35:59] <ianbrandt> /> for the resource.  Might you have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot?
[02:44:42] <Diablo-D3> ALR: you know when I said I fixed it? I lied
[02:44:58] <Diablo-D3> ALR: I now want to have it run every 5 minutes. thats */5
[02:45:04] <Diablo-D3> its now running 5 times a minute.
[02:45:16] <Diablo-D3> actually, 6
[02:45:20] <Diablo-D3> 7
[02:45:47] <PeteRoyle> Diablo-D3: have you tried using Seam Cron yet?
[02:46:03] <Diablo-D3> PeteRoyle: well, alr and stuartdouglas both says its dead
[02:46:58] <PeteRoyle> It's too young to be dead. It's just in a deep sleep
[02:47:12] <johnament> It needs a good dusting
[02:47:13] <PeteRoyle> Needs a bit of lovin
[02:47:42] <PeteRoyle> I'm trying to find time for it. Currently held up a bit by that weld bug
[02:47:54] <PeteRoyle> But anyways, basic scheduling does work
[02:48:25] <PeteRoyle> Might be worth a try. I've never tried it in an app server tho. Only in se
[02:48:39] <Diablo-D3> PeteRoyle: any snapshots for it?
[02:48:48] <Diablo-D3> nope, this is totally broken
[02:48:54] <Diablo-D3> I manually did 0, 5, etc
[02:49:02] <Diablo-D3> its triggering a crapload times per second
[02:49:14] <PeteRoyle> Lemme check...
[02:50:16] <PeteRoyle> Doesn't look like cron is in the maven repos. Balls
[02:53:36] <PeteRoyle> So who's the best person to assign a "add to hudson and publish to maven" task?
[02:54:00] <johnament> PeteRoyle: shoot an email to QE
[02:54:15] <PeteRoyle> Queen Elizabeth?
[02:54:25] <johnament> Quality Engineering
[02:54:28] <johnament> Martin and co.
[02:58:08] <PeteRoyle> Sorry mate I'm not familiar with JBoss internals. Don't spose you could give me an email address please?
[03:00:07] <johnament> PeteRoyle: http://sfwk.org/Seam3/ModuleHandbook
[03:00:18] <PeteRoyle> johnament: also while I've got you, Dan seemed to think you'd like to be involved in design of the @Asynchronous API for Cron. True?
[03:00:23] <PeteRoyle> thanks johnament
[03:00:35] <johnament> PeteRoyle: yes I would
[03:00:55] <johnament> but let's talk about that in seam-dev
[03:00:55] <PeteRoyle> now?
[03:12:49] <Diablo-D3> welp
[03:12:53] <Diablo-D3> I guess I dont need the cron
[03:12:59] * Diablo-D3 worked around that
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[03:58:39] <Diablo-D3> I lied, I didnt work around it.
[04:10:12] <PeteRoyle> Diablo-D3: you on linux?
[04:10:34] <Diablo-D3> yes
[04:11:46] <PeteRoyle> This'll invade your world with Seam Cron:
[04:11:46] <PeteRoyle> git clone git://github.com/seam/cron.git && cd cron && mvn clean install
[04:12:28] <Diablo-D3> yeah Im aware of seam cron
[04:12:58] <PeteRoyle> i know, but since it's not in a maven repo, thought you might want an easy way to get it into your local repo
[04:13:23] <Diablo-D3> so its built like every other java thing ever? ;)
[04:13:42] <PeteRoyle> just trying to save you a few steps
[04:13:48] <Diablo-D3> btw, I didnt need to add hour
[04:13:58] <Diablo-D3> its failing on minute="*/5" alone
[04:14:54] <Diablo-D3> although I think the docs imply I need that
[04:19:25] <Diablo-D3> wooaaahh
[04:19:28] <Diablo-D3> PeteRoyle: this is nuts
[04:19:32] <Diablo-D3> guess what
[04:19:37] <PeteRoyle> ?
[04:19:37] <Diablo-D3> I undeployed the war
[04:19:41] <Diablo-D3> its still dinging
[04:20:30] <PeteRoyle> what's still whatting now?
[04:20:43] <Diablo-D3> I have a sysout that goes ping everytime the method goes off
[04:20:54] <PeteRoyle> ejb or cron?
[04:20:59] <Diablo-D3> ejb
[04:21:24] * Diablo-D3 restarts jboss and redeploys
[04:21:27] <PeteRoyle> you've awakened an unstoppable beast?
[04:22:55] <Diablo-D3> apparently
[04:24:42] <Diablo-D3> AAAAAAAAH
[04:24:51] <Diablo-D3> I removed the @Schedule
[04:25:01] <Diablo-D3> saved, redeployed, and then restarted jboss
[04:25:03] <Diablo-D3> ITS STILL DINGING
[04:25:24] <PeteRoyle> well, it was nice knowing you mate
[04:26:54] <Diablo-D3> hax!
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[04:30:55] <Diablo-D3> okay I stopped server, deleted everything in jboss/server/default/tmp and data
[04:31:00] <Diablo-D3> it seems to have stopped
[04:34:45] <Diablo-D3> PeteRoyle: welp, lets try seam cron
[05:01:26] <PeteRoyle> howd you go?
[05:01:33] <PeteRoyle> Diablo-D3: ^
[05:02:02] <Diablo-D3> I got distracted
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[05:11:45] <Diablo-D3> grr
[05:11:49] <Diablo-D3> something is broke but I dont know what
[05:14:02] <Diablo-D3> 23:12:57,750 ERROR [org.jboss.kernel.plugins.dependency.AbstractKernelController] Error installing to Start: name=vfs:///home/diablo/Workspace/.metadata/.plugins/org.jboss.ide.eclipse.as.core/JBoss_6.0_Runtime_Server1301338987521/deploy/DiabloPool.war_WeldBootstrapBean state=Create: java.lang.RuntimeException: Service class org.jboss.seam.config.xml.bootstrap.XmlConfigExtension didn't implement the Extension interface
[05:14:10] <Diablo-D3> except that error makes no sense
[05:14:25] <Diablo-D3> I remove seam cron from my maven, and it works
[05:14:31] <Diablo-D3> er, my pom.xml
[05:14:38] <Diablo-D3> I add it, that happens.
[05:14:49] <PeteRoyle> wow. thats ... weird
[05:15:40] <Diablo-D3> yes, very.
[05:16:28] <PeteRoyle> stack trace?
[05:17:12] <Diablo-D3> http://pastebin.com/mEtDYfKf
[05:17:22] <PeteRoyle> thx
[05:18:15] <PeteRoyle> and the pom dependency section please?
[05:18:58] <Diablo-D3> http://pastebin.com/cpB0b43X
[05:20:19] <PeteRoyle> I'm gonna have to try reproducing that. Just going to grab some lunch first. bbiab
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[07:14:24] <bcave> morning
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[07:32:53] <PeteRoyle> mawning
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[07:46:51] <Diablo-D3> PeteRoyle: did you ever come back from lunch? ;)
[07:47:07] <PeteRoyle> yah. I gots distracted too tho :)
[07:47:20] <PeteRoyle> The good news is, @Asynchronous works with OpenWebBeans
[07:47:27] <PeteRoyle> (that's also the bad news)
[07:47:30] <Diablo-D3> ...
[07:48:07] <Diablo-D3> apache has a cdi impl? goddamnit.
[07:48:13] <PeteRoyle> The upshot is I can check the @Asynchronous code in with an Embedded OpenWebBeans Arquillian test
[07:48:19] <PeteRoyle> Until the Weld bug is fixed
[07:48:27] <Diablo-D3> apache fails at open source FOREVER
[07:48:49] <PeteRoyle> Having difficulty believing you in light of the current circumstances
[07:49:17] <Diablo-D3> well, it just pisses me off theres a ton of apache projects that exist just to "me too" it under a BSD license
[07:49:31] <Diablo-D3> or whatevers popular at Apache this week
[07:50:15] <Diablo-D3> and yes, I feel weired when Im also rooting for google and apache in the oracle swpat terrorism attack
[07:50:52] <PeteRoyle> obviously that was going to be my next question
[07:51:25] <Diablo-D3> its just that apache just... does this stuff.
[07:51:36] <Diablo-D3> why make ANOTHER cdi impl when jboss already wrote one
[07:51:57] <Diablo-D3> or why write another osgi container when eclipse's is fine
[07:52:03] <PeteRoyle> why make a standard if there's only going to be one implementation?
[07:52:11] <Diablo-D3> PeteRoyle: well
[07:52:16] <Diablo-D3> I dont particularly believe in standards that way
[07:52:23] <Diablo-D3> they're nice to have, but _its open source_
[07:52:56] <Diablo-D3> we dont HAVE to write another one, theres no marketshare to steal from closed source crap, we already own it all
[07:53:12] <Diablo-D3> all their effort could be spent on something that we DONT have yet
[07:55:53] <Diablo-D3> PeteRoyle: I mean, you know, whatever
[07:55:59] <Diablo-D3> Im probably just in a cranky mood
[07:56:21] <PeteRoyle> lol
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[07:59:54] <Diablo-D3> PeteRoyle: okay so
[08:00:01] <Diablo-D3> why the hell is weld flipping out
[08:02:22] <PeteRoyle> Because apparently the code that implements the CDI interceptor behaviour is not thread safe. The explanation is in the jira ticket, written by a guy who actually understands it
[08:02:26] <PeteRoyle> (it wasn't me)
[08:06:03] <PeteRoyle> It sounds like a pretty simple fix
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[16:14:50] <OndejZizka> kpiwko: There you are
[16:15:10] <OndejZizka> kpiwko:  Current org.jboss.arquillian.container.tomcat.embedded_6.TomcatEmbeddedInContainerTestCase  fails with
[16:15:26] <OndejZizka> well, @Resource injection does not work
[16:15:46] <OndejZizka> known issue?
[16:29:36] <kpiwko> OndraZizka: nevim, a ted nemam vubec cas to resit
[16:29:40] <kpiwko> pekny vikend
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[17:04:22] <OndejZizka> org.junit.runner.RunWith missing element value
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[18:49:03] <ianbrandt> OndejZizka: I just checked the chat log from earlier (http://echelog.matzon.dk/logs/browse/jbosstesting/1304632800), and it appears we are having the same issues with @Resource injection: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-433.
[18:49:05] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-433] Add a Tomcat 7 embedded container [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-433
[18:54:55] <ianbrandt> Is anyone lurking from the Arquillian team?  Some quick insight into how test enrichment is supposed to work might greatly accelerate my efforts to troubleshoot.
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[19:10:28] <OndejZizka> ianbrandt: You mean  @Resource injection does not work  ?
[19:16:22] <ianbrandt> OndejZizka: Not for me on HEAD.  Debugging now.  I think I'm getting at the cause...
[19:20:51] <OndejZizka> ianbrandt:  I didn't work on that since I work on tomcat remote now,
[19:20:57] <OndejZizka> but I am interested in the cause
[19:21:30] <OndejZizka> Let me know what was it pls
[19:32:26] <ianbrandt> OndejZizka: Still debugging, but unless I'm misunderstanding (very possible, I'm totally new to Arquillian) there are auxiliary archives that are supposed to be added to the deployment: arquillian-tomcat-testenrichers.jar, arquillian-junit.jar, arquillian-core.jar.  This does not appear to be happening.
[19:33:34] <ianbrandt> Listing the temp war created for the test the only thing in the lib folder is weld-servlet-1.0.1-Final.jar.
[20:09:36] <OndejZizka> ianbrandt:  One hint for you: This was not failing with earlier embedded tomcat container before it split to multiple github repos.
[20:09:49] <OndejZizka> I might tell you which commit it was if you want
[20:10:22] <OndejZizka> Actually there should be some Hudson build
[20:10:33] <OndejZizka> s/build/job
[20:12:51] <ianbrandt> Certainly couldn't hurt.
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[20:15:10] <ianbrandt> I've hit another standstill in my understanding.  It's now not clear to me whether or not auxiliary archives are supposed to be added to the application archive for the local protocol.  I continue to dig, but I imagine Aslak would make quick work of this, so I may have to move on to other things for the time being.
[20:18:45] <ianbrandt> It looks like Hudson is still setup for the old repo.
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[20:33:04] <OndejZizka> I'm getting this
[20:33:04] <OndejZizka> Caused by: java.lang.ClassCastException: org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContextFacade cannot be cast to org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContextFacade
[20:33:04] <OndejZizka> 	at org.jboss.weld.environment.tomcat.WeldForwardingAnnotationProcessor.getStandardContext(WeldForwardingAnnotationProcessor.java:92)
[20:33:04] <OndejZizka> 	... 36 more
[20:33:15] <OndejZizka> Any idea anyone?
[20:33:18] <OndejZizka> otoh
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[20:53:41] <ianbrandt> OndejZizka: Not specifically, but it would seems like a multiple classloader issue if that is any help.
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