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[09:54:04] <rrva> why would I use the jbossas remote for unit tests instead of embedded? No self-contained test...
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[10:28:25] <rrva> I need a pom.xml for running jboss as embedded
[10:29:03] <rrva> lots of problems, jbossas-embedded-6 profile example from the docs on jboss.org does not work
[10:30:26] <rrva> using it with the InjectionTestCase in the examples.. Cannot execute mojo: resources. It requires a project with an existing pom.xml, but the build is not using one.
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[10:34:59] <rrva> oops
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[10:37:05] <rrva> not reading error messages properly
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[11:17:41] <rrva> CLASSPATH gets too long with jbossas-embedded on windows
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[13:35:41] <tdiesler> aslak, hi aslak do you know were I can get started on this? https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-420
[13:36:28] <ALR> tdiesler: Not in AS7 arquillian2 ?
[13:36:51] <ALR> tdiesler: All the AS7 ARQ Containers are moving to AS7 codebase, away from Arquillian Containers repo.
[13:38:03] <tdiesler> ALR, first I want to resurrect plain ARQ OSGi functionality - outside the scope of AS7
[13:38:45] <tdiesler> we are using ARQ for our internal testsuite and also for that of the osgi umbrella
[13:38:47] <ALR> Ah OK, great
[13:39:04] <ALR> Pure OSGi, then, not AS7-ey stuff.  Good move.
[13:40:22] <tdiesler> so I guess I need a Container that is somehow referenced by a target
[13:42:42] <tdiesler> ALR, any idea what should be done given the stack trace that I see
[13:43:18] <ALR> tdiesler: Trace?
[13:43:37] <tdiesler> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-420
[13:43:51] <ALR> Ooh
[13:44:05] <ALR> Um..ARQ internals are not my specialty
[13:44:19] <ALR> Usually I crack open the source and see what they're trying to do.
[13:44:27] <ALR> And reconcile that with other working containers.
[13:44:32] <aslak> tdiesler, it looks like you don't have a DeployableContainer on CP
[13:44:33] <ALR> Sorry I'm not too expert in this stuff.
[13:44:43] <aslak> tdiesler, the spi package name has changed in Alpha5
[13:44:53] <ALR> That's why aslak is the Lead.
[13:44:54] <ALR> :)
[13:46:52] <tdiesler> aslak, ok I see it
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[14:31:21] <tdiesler> aslak, I see the LocalTestExecuter being used. How do I configure the JMXMethodExecutor for the embedded osgi container?
[14:36:21] <aslak> tdiesler, it's based around Protocol now
[14:36:47] <aslak> tdiesler, a DeployableContainer can define a default Protocol by returning the ProtocolDescriptrion in getDefaultProtocol
[14:37:20] <aslak> https://github.com/arquillian/arquillian-core/blob/master/protocols/servlet/src/main/java/org/jboss/arquillian/protocol/servlet/v_2_5/ServletProtocol.java
[14:37:35] <aslak> https://github.com/arquillian/arquillian-core/blob/master/protocols/servlet/src/main/java/org/jboss/arquillian/protocol/servlet/BaseServletProtocol.java
[14:38:33] <aslak> tdiesler, Container and Protocol is lously coupled via ProtocolMetadata returned by deploy
[14:39:12] <aslak> ProtocolMetadata is basically everything you know about the deployment (servlets, ejbs, etc) combined with host info like port ip
[14:39:34] <aslak> based on that, the Protocol should be able to create a getExecutor
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[14:44:20] <wyer> SHRINKWRAP-247
[14:44:38] <wyer> derp
[14:44:41] <wyer> no bot :/
[14:44:47] <wyer> makes me a sad panda
[14:45:00] <aslak> SHRINKWRAP-247 - Support recursive addition of web resources
[14:45:02] <aslak> ;)
[14:45:15] <wyer> yeah just had to like open the browser
[14:45:21] <wyer> and navigate to it :P
[14:45:29] <wyer> vs getting a link from the bot :P
[14:45:44] <aslak> i know, the horror
[14:45:49] <wyer> awful....
[14:47:15] <wyer> hmm okay
[14:52:59] <wyer> ALR: do we prefer a regex filter for SHRINKWRAP-247 or a wildcard filter ?
[14:53:28] <wyer> or infact should we take any old filter and leave it up to the user
[14:53:32] <wyer> perhaps that is better
[14:53:38] <ALR> wyer: Looking
[14:53:52] <ALR> wyer: Why not any Filter?
[14:54:00] <wyer> yeah :)
[14:54:02] <ALR> wyer: RegEx and Wildcard are impls
[14:55:12] <wyer> will require that they have shrinkwrap impl in their classpath
[14:55:18] <wyer> and that they know where to find them
[14:55:27] <aslak> wyer, Filters class
[14:56:48] <wyer> tho the javadoc should point them to the impl's so its fine
[14:57:19] <aslak> org.jboss.shrinkwrap.api.Filters
[14:58:15] <wyer> thanks
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[15:02:58] <aslak> ALR, seen the awesome video yet ? :)
[15:03:19] <ALR> aslak: On?
[15:03:26] <aslak> http://vimeo.com/22696384
[15:04:27] <ALR> Jesus.
[15:04:32] <ALR> SeamForge FTW
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[15:05:06] <ALR> arquillian --create-test com.myTest
[15:05:08] <ALR> Wow.
[15:05:43] <wyer> yeah lincoln doing good things there
[15:05:55] <wyer> and everyone else pumping the issues that side
[15:06:07] <wyer> been a flurry of activity since seam3 went final
[15:06:35] <aslak> ALR, yea, that's Paul Bakker's work, he's lead on the Arquillian Forge plugin
[15:06:48] <ALR> Holy moly.
[15:06:54] <ALR> It's getting hard to keep up, honestly.
[15:07:12] <ALR> I'm thinking I should show Forge @ JBW and JUDCon
[15:07:25] <ALR> Though live coding scares me
[15:07:30] <ALR> Adam Bien has balls of steel
[15:07:35] <wyer> hahaha
[15:07:42] <aslak> in my first forge plugin playground, i had that wired via events.. create ejb --type STATLESS
[15:08:17] <aslak> fired a created event, and if Arquillain plugin was installed would go, Do you want to create a Test for your MyBean STATLESS Bean? Boom
[15:08:30] <wyer> sexy
[15:08:40] <ALR> seam-forge create --my-whole-app
[15:08:44] <wyer> lol
[15:08:45] <aslak> :)
[15:08:54] <aslak> forge generate-business-logic
[15:08:58] <ALR> Exactly
[15:08:59] <aslak> forge generate-business-logic --type BANKING
[15:09:03] <ALR> HAHA
[15:09:06] <aslak> ;)
[15:09:07] <wyer> aslak: you thinking to small
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[15:09:23] <wyer> forge interrogate-user-requirement
[15:10:26] <aslak> forge user-requirements < "company website with sales portal using paypal"
[15:10:47] <aslak> should be doable.. :)
[15:11:20] <wyer> nice
[15:12:02] <wyer> ALR: live coding is scary and i think everyone has seen the 15 minute rails blog and is over it
[15:12:37] <ALR> wyer: That's exactly what I said about Forge when I first saw it
[15:12:44] <ALR> Looks like Rails demos I used to catch a couple years back
[15:12:50] <ALR> Only we give you a decent runtime.
[15:13:07] <ALR> I never liked Rails because I felt it made things convenient at the expense of a decent runtime environment
[15:13:09] <aslak> i was considering a live test code session at geecon, but no time it seems
[15:13:11] <ALR> And this stuff is killer.
[15:13:26] <wyer> yeah look the end result not comparable to rails shit
[15:13:34] <ALR> Keeping in mind I'm now working on the AS7 testsuite
[15:13:43] <ALR> And it occurs to me, I'm testing AS IN THE IDE!
[15:13:47] <ALR> Finally
[15:13:52] <wyer> but the real power is the seam runtime and the arquillian tests
[15:14:22] <wyer> i would think its move valueable showing arq
[15:14:29] <wyer> and maybe as a small mention say
[15:14:42] <wyer> look how cool seam forge integration is
[15:15:10] <wyer> cos frankly all rails was good for was making a blog
[15:15:27] <ALR> Rails was good for reverse-engineering from a schema
[15:15:30] <wyer> providing u were not planning to have your blog slashdotted or dugg
[15:15:33] <aslak> the SeamForge IDE integration is quite cool, gives you the SeamForge shell in IDE, and new-project is auto imported
[15:15:35] <ALR> And making a stub CRUD app.
[15:16:38] <wyer> and i think people view rails type domes with a level of distrust
[15:16:55] <wyer> and honestly if people aren't using seam by now....
[15:17:03] <wyer> aweh
[15:17:14] <ALR> Not everything is a webapp.
[15:17:23] <ALR> Just almost everything
[15:17:36] <wyer> indeed :P
[15:22:58] <wyer> i like the coding convention shrinkwrap uses
[15:23:21] <wyer> do all jboss projects use it ?
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[15:25:44] <ALR> wyer: Coding convention?
[15:25:48] <ALR> Like style guidelines?
[15:25:51] <ALR> Source style?
[15:25:59] <wyer> yeah
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[15:26:05] <ALR> wyer: It's the default Eclipse one.
[15:26:12] <ALR> wyer: AS7 has its own formatter rules.
[15:26:19] <ALR> Each project can spin their own
[15:26:27] <ALR> AS7 actually enforces w/ Checkstyle as well
[15:26:44] <wyer> okay
[15:27:04] <wyer> wouldn't know what eclipses default anything is heh
[15:42:06] <tdiesler> aslak, ARQ-420 is done. Please pull https://github.com/tdiesler/arquillian/tree/arq420
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[15:49:15] <aslak> tdiesler, cool, thanks. i'll get them split out and into it's correct repo etc
[15:50:40] <tdiesler> aslak, lets talk about this in the call. There should be no additional work for you
[15:51:48] <aslak> tdiesler, there is, your changes are against the arquillian repo. We're in the middle of a major split, so all containers go in their own repo, e.g. arquillian-container-osgi
[15:52:15] <tdiesler> ah, ok
[15:52:37] <aslak> but no biggie.. :)
[15:54:40] <aslak> tdiesler, why the rename from osgi.embedded_4_2 to osgi.embedded ?
[15:56:33] <wyer> ALR:  i see now addAsManifestResource(File resource, ArchivePath target) is recursive (even if that is not the expressly what the user wants) should it not rather be named addAsManifestResources ?
[15:56:49] <tdiesler> because the version is irrelevant. i.e. the container will work with a 4.3 framework when it comes out
[15:56:53] <ALR> It's recursive if you add a folder...
[15:57:00] <wyer> yes
[15:57:16] <ALR> I consider that adding one thing, I think that's descriptive
[15:57:17] <wyer> but you may just want to add all the files in the top level directory
[15:57:35] <ALR> wyer: You can overload it to add a recursive flag
[15:57:52] <ALR> Which would have to apply to all addAs* methods
[15:58:13] <aslak> tdiesler, our version schema is based on minimal version.
[15:58:40] <aslak> so, 4_2 would be competable up til, well.. it's not any more and ther eis some other container with v. X_X
[16:02:03] <aslak> ALR, call?
[16:03:10] <davidbos> tdiesler: are you still on the call?
[16:03:25] <ALR> aslak: Ah yes, call
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[17:15:46] <ALR> aslak: How do I copy the @Deployment again?
[17:15:57] <aslak> copy?
[17:16:01] <ALR> Like copy the enriched thing for debugging purposes
[17:16:10] <aslak> export you mean?
[17:16:11] <ALR> To see what was actually deployed
[17:16:13] <ALR> Yeah
[17:16:50] <ALR> aslak: I thought it was in arquillian.xml somewhere?
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[17:17:22] <aslak> or arquillian/engine/property@name=deploymentExportPath target/
[17:17:57] <ALR> Hmm, sysprop doesn't seem to work
[17:18:11] <aslak> ALR, surefire forking your jvm? :)
[17:18:46] <aslak> sorry, arquillian.deploymentExportPath
[17:18:56] <ALR> aslak: I put it in my Eclipse VM arguments
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[17:20:37] <aslak> your value exists as a directory?
[17:21:03] <aslak> or i mean, it doe snot exist as a file.. :)
[17:21:18] <ALR> aslak: That was it
[17:21:24] <ALR> Thanks
[17:21:26] <aslak> :)
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[17:21:59] <aslak> lunch
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