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[00:00:14] <reza> I tried to discuss it but didn't go anywhere...
[00:00:44] <reza> Especially since I don't really know the Arquillian side of the story well enough...
[00:03:12] <aslak> it's always easier to focus on one tech and one impl.. but you still have some of the fundemental issues like, runtime isolation and test isolation
[00:05:13] <mojavelinux> yes, I want to reach out to andy
[00:05:40] <mojavelinux> only reason I haven't yet is time, time, time
[00:05:41] <reza> OK guys, I gotta run - just thought I would give you a head's up before things get too far along...
[00:05:43] <mojavelinux> hehehe
[00:06:08] <mojavelinux> just have faith in Arquillian, and *please* provide feedback good or bad
[00:06:17] <mojavelinux> we can solve these problems together :)
[00:06:24] <reza> I would hate to see thinsg get too muddled - doesn't help the overall CDI/Java EE 6 effort...
[00:06:50] <reza> I do - that's what I'm trying to do of course..
[00:07:12] <mojavelinux> excellent, I appreciate it
[00:07:23] <reza> We are working to add Resin integration with Arquillian right now - Dominik is doing that...
[00:07:33] <mojavelinux> excellent, we *really* need that in Seam
[00:07:47] <mojavelinux> we just went through 1.5 weeks of fixed nasty bugs in GlassFish/Weld
[00:07:58] <mojavelinux> and Arquillian totally floated us through that
[00:08:17] <aslak> reza, btw, i needed to hackup your Embedded APIs a bit to get the Arq container working, but it's there and on it's way out any day now.. you might want to have a look at what is done and include it in your v. :) https://github.com/arquillian/arquillian-container-resin/tree/ARQ-146
[00:08:18] <mojavelinux> don't know how we would have ever gotten to the problems so quickly if it weren't for the ability to mix and match files in test deployments
[00:08:18] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-146] Create a DeployableContainer integration for Resin [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Optional, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-146
[00:09:19] <reza> Aslak, OK let us know...
[00:09:47] <aslak> reza, basically add support for multiple WarDeploiyments to the same Embedded instance while it is running.. and undeploying them
[00:10:00] <reza> Do remeber that we have two embeddable containers...
[00:10:35] <reza> One that includes Servlet and one that just has CDI+EJB+JPA - the latter is much faster.
[00:10:40] <aslak> ResinEmbedded in two packages you mean?
[00:10:55] <mojavelinux> a resin remote would be equally as important
[00:11:09] <mojavelinux> and honestly, I think the remote containers are easier, but I guess it depends on how you look at it
[00:11:27] <mojavelinux> the remote is a "pure" environment, whereas embedded as I mentioned is always going to be a little bit quirky
[00:11:31] <reza> No, the streamlined container is called ResinBeanContainer.
[00:12:03] <aslak> reza, got any docs you want to add to https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-146 ?
[00:12:04] <aslak> :)
[00:12:04] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-146] Create a DeployableContainer integration for Resin [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Optional, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-146
[00:12:15] <aslak> doc refs tha tis
[00:12:45] <reza> Remoting is some distance away - probably a few months - it's not part of the Web Profile.
[00:13:01] <aslak> reza, remote deployment support
[00:13:15] <reza> Yes, I'll ask Dominink to work with you...
[00:13:21] <mojavelinux> right, we are talking about a container which is started on it's own
[00:13:25] <mojavelinux> and arquillian deploys a war to it
[00:13:38] <reza> Ahh...I see...
[00:13:51] <mojavelinux> it's the best for compatiblity testing
[00:13:57] <aslak> reza, working with Dominik already.. :)
[00:14:00] <reza> We do have an API for it - but don't know if it is usable...
[00:14:04] <mojavelinux> because you can create just about any war you can think of and throw it at the container, see what happens
[00:14:05] <reza> I'll check.
[00:14:12] <mojavelinux> that's how we do our compatibility testing in seam
[00:14:24] <mojavelinux> btw, because of issues with the opentck (political ones)
[00:14:31] <mojavelinux> we have created a compatibility test suite in seam
[00:14:38] <mojavelinux> it's meant to test areas where the TCK misses
[00:14:48] <mojavelinux> http://github.com/seam/compatibility
[00:14:58] <mojavelinux> those tests must pass for Seam 3 to work on the contianer
[00:15:07] <mojavelinux> and they are not seam related at all
[00:15:14] <mojavelinux> this is basic Java EE stuff
[00:15:26] <aslak> hmm.. what happened to my office tape.. trying to do expences and no tape..
[00:15:37] * aslak brings on the gaffa
[00:15:45] <reza> Good to know - maybe we can use it ourself - were planning to test Seam out...
[00:16:14] <mojavelinux> yes, please take advantage of it
[00:16:33] <mojavelinux> and if you know of an inconsistency between containers, feel free to put in a pull request
[00:16:54] <mojavelinux> this is our only way of adding new spec tests without getting the wrath of ...well, you know who
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[00:18:46] <reza> OK guys - talk to you all later...
[00:19:10] <reza> Feel free to reach out if I can help with anything...
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[00:35:28] <ALR> Oooh, I've missed a bunch of great talks while on the phone :)
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[00:51:44] <aslak> :)
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[03:03:27] <lincolnthree> hey ALR, yt?
[03:04:29] <ALR> lincolnthree: Yep.
[03:04:37] <lincolnthree> Question about NodeQuery API
[03:04:46] <lincolnthree> any way to query against the text value of the element?
[03:04:55] <ALR> Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:04:58] <ALR> One sec.
[03:05:09] <lincolnthree> getOrCreate("element/sub-element$text-value"); or something like that?
[03:05:17] <lincolnthree> like @attrValue
[03:05:25] <lincolnthree> @attrValue=blah
[03:05:53] <ALR> You mean "Query" in Descriptors, right?
[03:06:05] <lincolnthree> yeah sorry
[03:07:54] <ALR> lincolnthree: Far as I can see, you always get a Node back
[03:08:10] <lincolnthree> i need to get or create the node with the given text value
[03:08:28] <ALR> lincolnthree: Go to QueryTestCase and add it, would be my step I think
[03:08:33] <ALR> I'm not too familiar w/ this API
[03:08:35] <ALR> Aslak wrote it.
[03:08:41] <lincolnthree> Ah? see i don't even know the syntax to try
[03:08:43] <ALR> And it was of course a prototype
[03:08:47] <lincolnthree> because there are no examples
[03:08:54] <ALR> And as thus, kinda lacking docs.
[03:08:56] <lincolnthree> of this use case
[03:09:01] <lincolnthree> yea
[03:09:03] <ALR> Right, there's QueryTestCase and that's about it.
[03:09:12] <ALR> Basically my understanding is no greater than yours now.
[03:09:19] <ALR> Digging a bit to see what pops up
[03:09:24] <lincolnthree> same
[03:11:04] <lincolnthree> doesn't look like the use-case is tested, if it exists at all
[03:11:53] <ALR> lincolnthree: Do this:
[03:11:57] <ALR> lincolnthree: Make a test for it
[03:12:06] <ALR> And run it through the GetOrCreateQuery impl
[03:12:12] <ALR> See what pops up
[03:12:19] <lincolnthree> i can't
[03:12:21] <ALR> And if you need to enhance this or make an alternate type of impl
[03:12:24] <ALR> No?
[03:12:27] <ALR> Why not?
[03:12:29] <lincolnthree> there's literally no syntax for it
[03:12:32] <lincolnthree> i have nothing to test
[03:12:39] <ALR> Hehe, that's what you have to make.
[03:12:41] <ALR> In the test.
[03:12:53] <ALR> Then support it and make sure no regression
[03:12:56] <ALR> And bam, you made a feature.
[03:13:04] <lincolnthree> Oh, sorry. I misunderstood you.
[03:13:05] <ALR> I definitely am not seeing this use case
[03:13:10] <ALR> I explained poorly.
[03:13:18] <ALR> IMO if the feature isn't tested, it doesn't exist
[03:13:28] <lincolnthree> That's my opinion as well.
[03:13:34] <ALR> Make it so.
[03:13:36] <lincolnthree> And my primary complaint with? contributions.
[03:13:46] <ALR> This project still needs a week of my love.
[03:13:50] <ALR> I'll have to wait though.
[03:13:56] <lincolnthree> I always write tests when I contribute :)
[03:14:01] <lincolnthree> (mostly) hah
[03:14:10] <ALR> There are tests for what's there
[03:14:11] <lincolnthree> yeah, my project needs your week of love on SWD
[03:14:16] <ALR> Your feature, looks like not.
[03:14:28] <ALR> Get in line behind AS7, buddy :)
[03:16:38] <lincolnthree> Aw cmon. AS7 does what, run webapps? Forge does so much more ;)
[03:16:45] <bobmcw> ALR: thanks
[03:16:58] <bobmcw> btw, turned out our ARQ hang wasn't ARQ
[03:17:02] <bobmcw> we had a bogus test of sorts
[03:17:19] <bobmcw> strangely manifested by ARQ freaking out
[03:17:21] <bobmcw> but whatevs
[03:17:23] <bobmcw> all better now
[03:17:37] <ALR> bobmcw: Ah cool.  I was having problems getting the build to finish
[03:17:44] <bobmcw> yeah, we have that sometimes
[03:17:50] <ALR> bobmcw: I can pull new stuff and it'll work now probably?
[03:17:53] <bobmcw> I think Right Now, using old ARQ, we have a non-sketchy build
[03:18:01] <bobmcw> got 2 CIs trying to verify that though
[03:18:20] <bobmcw> if this passes http://ci.stormgrind.org/viewLog.html?buildTypeId=bt7&buildId=2253&guest=1
[03:18:45] <ALR> bobmcw: Running locally now.
[03:19:00] <ALR> bobmcw: I have CPU cycles avail while refactoring other stuff now.
[03:19:05] <bobmcw> coolbeans
[03:19:16] <bobmcw> a fair bit of changes since your last fetch, prolly
[03:19:19] <bobmcw> mvn clean the hell out of it
[03:19:28] <bobmcw> mvn clean -Pinteg
[03:19:47] <ALR> Yep.
[03:20:34] * ALR wants to make a Git project called "my-finger"
[03:20:59] <bobmcw> that'd teach people to fetch+rebase instead of pull
[03:21:05] <bobmcw> NEVER pull my-finger
[03:24:36] <ALR> Hehe
[03:54:38] <ALR> lincolnthree: Reviewing pull request
[03:54:58] <lincolnthree> ALR ty, if i did a good job, wanna cut a release real quick? :)
[03:55:09] <lincolnthree> didn't test super heavily, kinda on a deadline :(
[03:55:13] <lincolnthree> but regression passes
[03:55:16] <lincolnthree> and there is *a* test
[03:55:27] <ALR> TBH I'm allowing all kinds of crap in here.
[03:55:37] <ALR> Because the whole thing needs a design review and docs
[03:55:43] <lincolnthree> this is consistent with the quality of code that was there before at least :)
[03:55:45] <ALR> So if you pass all tests then it gets upstream
[03:55:48] <lincolnthree> i followed the same trends
[03:55:51] <lincolnthree> lol woot
[03:55:51] <ALR> 0.1.x means exactly that.
[03:56:00] <lincolnthree> same with forge Alpha :(
[03:56:04] <lincolnthree> got kinda messy
[03:56:08] <lincolnthree> been doing a lot of cleaning lately
[03:56:14] <ALR> I don't even consider this a proper standalone project yet
[03:56:21] <ALR> It's basically a utility for ARQ and Forge
[03:56:27] <ALR> No user should be bringing it in at all.
[03:56:50] <ALR> lincolnthree: You have a little while?
[03:56:57] <ALR> bobmcw's stuff is pinning my RAM.
[03:57:05] <lincolnthree> i have a little bit
[03:58:20] <ALR> lincolnthree: Honestly this usage looks weird to me
[03:58:28] <ALR> You're returning text content as a member of a Node
[03:58:36] <ALR> Do we consider CDATA to be part of a Node?
[03:58:54] <lincolnthree> returning text content as a member of a node?
[03:59:12] <ALR> Node.text
[03:59:21] <ALR> Node.text()
[03:59:24] <lincolnthree> sure the stuff that goes <node>HERE</node>
[03:59:26] <ALR> And: Running org.jboss.shrinkwrap.descriptor.api.query.QueryTestCase
[03:59:26] <ALR> Tests run: 5, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 0.073 sec <<< FAILURE!
[03:59:33] <lincolnthree> ???
[03:59:39] <ALR> Failure, beeatch.
[03:59:55] <lincolnthree> dammit wth
[03:59:57] <lincolnthree> i suck at this
[04:00:00] <lincolnthree> give me a sec
[04:00:04] <ALR> Hehe
[04:06:11] <ALR> bobmcw: Woohoo made it through to RSpec tests now.
[04:10:17] <bobmcw> w00t
[04:12:39] <ALR> lincolnthree: Back in like 30, shopping errand.  Call if you need anything.
[04:12:55] <lincolnthree> could use a release :)
[04:25:46] <lincolnthree> ALR: sorry, i've been talking in the wrong channel for about the last 5 messages
[04:25:50] <lincolnthree> or hour
[04:25:55] <lincolnthree> i fixed the commit
[04:25:57] <lincolnthree> go ahead and re-pull
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[04:45:00] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master a17b823.. Lincoln Baxter, III SHRINKDESC-49
[04:45:01] <jbossbot> jira [SHRINKDESC-49] Support querying element text values [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SHRINKDESC-49
[04:45:01] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master URL: http://github.com/shrinkwrap/descriptors/compare/8456137...a17b823
[04:46:03] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master 8393768.. Andrew Lee Rubinger [maven-release-plugin] prepare release 0.1.5
[04:46:03] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master URL: http://github.com/shrinkwrap/descriptors/compare/a17b823...8393768
[04:46:07] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master ff62260.. Andrew Lee Rubinger [maven-release-plugin] prepare for next development iteration
[04:46:07] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master URL: http://github.com/shrinkwrap/descriptors/compare/8393768...ff62260
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[04:55:36] <jbossbot> git [shrinkwrap] push master 3687154.. Davide D'Alto [SHRINKWRAP-249] Add recursive inclusion to addAsManifestResource(...)
[04:55:37] <jbossbot> jira [SHRINKWRAP-249] Support add directory content [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Davide D'Alto] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SHRINKWRAP-249
[04:55:37] <jbossbot> git [shrinkwrap] push master 21def81.. Davide D'Alto [SHRINKWRAP-249] Add recursive inclusion to addAsResource(..)
[04:55:38] <jbossbot> git [shrinkwrap] push master 8bc02c6.. Davide D'Alto [SHRINKWRAP-249] Add recursive inclusion to other methods in ContainerBase
[04:55:38] <jbossbot> git [shrinkwrap] push master 47ed25d.. Davide D'Alto [SHRINKWRAP-249] Add AccessController.doPrivileged(...) when using the classloader
[04:55:38] <jbossbot> git [shrinkwrap] push master 4d17f87.. Davide D'Alto [SHRINKWRAP-249] Change method name: assertArchiveContainsTargetRecursively(..) -->  assertArchiveContainsFolderRecursively (..)
[04:55:38] <jbossbot> git [shrinkwrap] push master 2b71ad9.. Davide D'Alto [SHRINKWRAP-249] Add test to check the inclusion of an empty folder
[04:55:38] <jbossbot> git [shrinkwrap] push master URL: http://github.com/shrinkwrap/shrinkwrap/compare/ac2b368...2b71ad9
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[16:05:07] <OndejZizka> mojavelinux: Hi, pls how can I turn Arquillian's Archive into a stream?
[16:05:30] <OndejZizka> mojavelinux: I'm writing Tomcat remote container
[16:10:37] <OndejZizka> Got it
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[16:16:32] <OndejZizka> lfryc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_030116-N-2069B-001_Sea_Knights_sit_on_the_ramp_at_North_Island_after_being_shrink_wrapped.jpg
[16:18:12] <OndejZizka> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/common/shrinkwrap/trunk/ 404 - link from http://www.jboss.org/shrinkwrap
[16:21:47] <OndejZizka> lfryc: Where do I find shrinkwrap's source? Is it this? https://github.com/shrinkwrap/shrinkwrap
[16:22:27] <lfryc> OndejZizka: sure thing
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[16:49:24] <OndejZizka> 'dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)' must be unique: org.jboss.shrinkwrap:shrinkwrap-extension-vfs3:jar -> duplicate declaration of version ${project.version} @ line 80, column 17
[16:49:34] <OndejZizka> Maven 3.0.3
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[17:13:20] <mojavelinux> OndejZizka: you turn it into an stream like this
[17:13:23] <mojavelinux> deployment.getArchive().as(ZipExporter.class).exportAsInputStream()
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[21:20:02] <jc3> ALR: hey, i was going to take a whack at upgrading the torquebox integ tests. anything i should watch out for?
[21:20:14] <ALR> jc3: I've a patch in the works.
[21:20:27] <ALR> I got master to run through completely w/ success last night
[21:20:34] <ALR> And was gonna try my patch on it again tonight.
[21:20:46] <ALR> jc3: Maybe I'll just send you what I have so far
[21:20:55] <ALR> Because the tests take about an hour and pin my RAM
[21:21:00] <jc3> ah, cool.  either way.  i'm happy to help or wait.  no hurry.
[21:21:54] <ALR> jc3: http://pastebin.com/wz5YjYKM
[21:22:04] <ALR> That may be incomplete
[21:22:09] <ALR> I think it addresses compile errors.
[21:22:19] <ALR> But won't get into any Ruby fixes you need.
[21:22:30] <ALR> And of course I haven't gotten a successful run yet
[21:22:36] <ALR> But they should illustrate the API changes you need.
[21:23:30] <jc3> yes, very helpful.  i'll see if i can't merge those in.
[21:24:00] <ALR> Cool.
[21:24:05] <ALR> Lemme know if you get stuck
[21:26:03] <jc3> ALR: wdm
[21:26:34] <ALR> jc3: WDM?
[21:26:57] <jc3> ah, sorry, that's one of our project:odd memes.  :)
[21:27:06] <ALR> FFS.
[21:27:06] <jc3> wdm == will do, mildew
[21:27:11] <jc3> that too!
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[21:59:27] <jc3> ALR: that patch gets me compiling ok, but tests fail to run, and no logs in jboss/server/default
[21:59:36] <jc3> are there changes to arquillian.xml required?
[21:59:45] <ALR> jc3: Quite possibly?
[21:59:49] <ALR> I haven't dug yet
[21:59:59] <ALR> Compile-free is as far as I got there.
[22:00:14] <ALR> After testing that master last night got me a clean build.
[22:00:31] <jc3> k, i'll keep digging
[22:00:31] <ALR> No test output in surefire either?
[22:00:39] <jc3> yes...
[22:02:23] <mojavelinux> yes, there are changes to arquillian.xml
[22:02:27] <mojavelinux> i'll point you at a working example
[22:02:52] <jc3> mojavelinux: awesome, thx!
[22:03:56] <mojavelinux> https://github.com/aslakknutsen/arquillian-showcase/blob/6adb00aa3d2014097aa22fefb930d412bdb1bc0a/cdi-ejb/src/test/resources/arquillian.xml
[22:03:59] <mojavelinux> note the schema change
[22:04:02] <mojavelinux> and the property syntax
[22:04:19] <mojavelinux> i know, we need docs...I haven't had time to help and aslak hasn't gotten to it yet
[22:04:28] <jc3> ALR: this is my only surefire output:  https://gist.github.com/897142
[22:04:30] <mojavelinux> if you find some extra time laying around, ship it to me :)
[22:04:45] <jc3> ALR: looks like it's just timing out trying to detect jboss being up.
[22:05:37] <ALR> jc3: I can look later on tonight?
[22:05:47] <ALR> Now I'm on AS7/ARQ stuff that's kinda pressing for Beta2.
[22:06:13] <jc3> ALR: no hurry at all. i'll see if i can't get things going with dan's example.
[22:06:20] <ALR> jc3: That error...you shouldn't get on whatever the first run is.
[22:06:25] <ALR> The first run should give you move context
[22:06:37] <ALR> After that you get the "already tried to initialize" thing.
[22:07:59] <mojavelinux> the showcase will eventually become our example-oriented test suite "smoke test" if you will
[22:08:05] <mojavelinux> we are getting that organized
[22:08:15] <mojavelinux> because we need samples outside of the arquillian core that are validated with each release
[22:08:34] <mojavelinux> part of our modularity refactoring
[22:24:33] <jc3> mojavelinux: my xsd is a little rusty.  can you briefly tell me what i need to change?  https://gist.github.com/897178
[22:24:48] <jc3> is it just s/jboss/tns/ ?
[22:26:16] <mojavelinux> the urls
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[22:31:56] <jc3> mojavelinux: ok, that's too brief.  :)
[22:32:09] <jc3> i changed the urls to match your example and removed the jboss: prefixes.
[22:32:23] <jc3> test still times out waiting on the app server, though.
[22:32:35] <jc3> where should errors show up?
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[22:49:17] <mojavelinux> probably in the app server, I would imagine
[22:49:23] <mojavelinux> your best bet is to get debugging going
[22:49:31] <mojavelinux> 9/10 that's going to get you to the answer quickest
[22:49:38] <mojavelinux> even though it requires some work to get setup
[22:49:41] <mojavelinux> it pays off
[22:50:19] <jc3> debugging as in stepping through code?
[22:50:31] <jc3> i'd prefer logs
[22:50:43] <jc3> there's no jboss server log directory created at all
[22:51:12] <jc3> but the command that maven is spitting out (that looks like what arq is trying to run) runs fine when i copy/paste it and run it manually.
[22:52:25] <jc3> so nothing about about the structure of arquillian.xml has changed?  only those urls?
[22:52:58] <mojavelinux> no, the way the servers are configured is different too
[22:53:05] <mojavelinux> but I don't have an example of the actual server config yet
[22:53:08] <mojavelinux> you'll need to ask aslak
[22:53:10] <mojavelinux> but I don't see him
[22:53:25] <jc3> so this is still wrong?  https://gist.github.com/897234
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[22:54:14] <mojavelinux> <property name="deploymentExportPath">target/</property>
[22:54:19] <mojavelinux> use that syntax for properties
[22:54:26] <mojavelinux> stuff inside of <engine> and <container>
[22:54:59] <jc3> k
[22:56:00] <jc3> curious what motivated that change?
[22:56:04] <mojavelinux> but I have to admit, I'm in your boat
[22:56:18] <mojavelinux> I have yet to actually throw down my example code that has container configs and use alpha5
[22:56:27] <mojavelinux> i've been crazy busy with seam releasing
[22:56:27] <jc3> so if i had debugging working, i wouldn't need arquillian.xml?
[22:56:34] <jc3> i'm sure
[22:56:39] <mojavelinux> no, debugging would just let you know where the code is hanging
[22:57:01] <jc3> and no config docs/examples other than the xsd?
[22:58:16] <mojavelinux> not that I"ve been able to confirm...now, the configs may be backwards compatible, I'm just not 100% sure
[22:58:34] <mojavelinux> the showcase is the source of truth for me in examples, and I just haven't updated it yet...will be doing that tomorrow
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[23:04:49] <lincolnthree1> hey ALR, might need ya in a sec
[23:04:55] <lincolnthree1> just reserving you ;)
[23:05:28] <ALR> lincolnthree1: The key is *holding* the reservation.
[23:05:37] <ALR> Anyone can just *take* a reservation.
[23:05:59] <lincolnthree1> shhhhh ;)
[23:18:39] <lincolnthree1> ok ALR
[23:18:47] <lincolnthree1> I have a fix for the other side of my feature from last night
[23:19:00] <lincolnthree1> you could query, but you couldn't add
[23:19:07] <lincolnthree1> that's working now and I have test cases
[23:19:10] <lincolnthree1> branch is ready
[23:19:14] <lincolnthree1> but do I need a new issue?
[23:22:25] <lincolnthree1> ALR pull request sent
[23:22:29] <ALR> lincolnthree1: Hang on sorry
[23:22:32] <lincolnthree1> np.
[23:22:37] <ALR> I'm about 3 failures deep in AS here
[23:22:50] <ALR> lincolnthree1: You'll need a new issue because the last one was released.
[23:22:56] <ALR> So you can just make a new one and link it.
[23:23:01] <lincolnthree1> ALR ok 1 sec
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[23:24:19] <ALR> lincolnthree1: "SHRINKDESC-49-2"?
[23:24:21] <jbossbot> jira [SHRINKDESC-49] Support querying element text values [Resolved (Done) Feature Request, Major, Lincoln Baxter III] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SHRINKDESC-49
[23:24:30] <lincolnthree1> ill change it
[23:24:35] <ALR> ty
[23:25:29] <lincolnthree1> ok try  now
[23:25:33] <lincolnthree1> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SHRINKDESC-50
[23:25:34] <jbossbot> jira [SHRINKDESC-50] Support creation of nodes via text value queries: getOrCreate() [Open (Unresolved) Enhancement, Major, Lincoln Baxter III] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SHRINKDESC-50
[23:28:23] <bobmcw> ALR: http://twitter.com/#!/bobmcwhirter/status/53566809365938176
[23:28:26] <bobmcw> thanks!
[23:28:34] <lincolnthree1> ALR: and I know i'm probably driving you crazy with this (because ive thought Seam 3 was being released about 4 times now ), but it's actually happening this time and I need another release
[23:28:43] <ALR> bobmcw: NICE :D
[23:29:18] <ALR> lincolnthree1: You are REALLY asking for it.  Are you ready?
[23:29:26] <lincolnthree1> haha
[23:29:32] <lincolnthree1> give me one sec
[23:29:46] <ALR> Oh no.  I'm not sure you know what you're asking for.
[23:29:51] <ALR> But in a moment it'll be clear.
[23:30:16] <lincolnthree1> Ok yes, i ran the tests again, they pass. lay it on me
[23:30:54] <lincolnthree1> <-- getting paranoid
[23:31:04] <ALR> lincolnthree1: https://github.com/shrinkwrap/
[23:31:09] <ALR> Notice anything new?
[23:31:22] <lincolnthree1> OMG!!!
[23:31:33] <lincolnthree1> Now I have to be super careful.
[23:31:47] <lincolnthree1> I don't want to lose your trust!
[23:31:48] <ALR> lincolnthree1: If you wouldn't mind still submitting pull requests for SW proper, I'd appreciate it.
[23:32:01] <lincolnthree1> sure, descriptors still too?
[23:32:03] <ALR> lincolnthree1: So basically you can add shrinkwrap/descriptors as your R/W upstream remote
[23:32:05] <ALR> And push to it.
[23:32:10] <ALR> Releasing that project is easy:
[23:32:13] <lincolnthree1> ok
[23:32:18] <ALR> mvn release:clean release:prepare release:perform
[23:32:28] <ALR> Just don't take the default tag name
[23:32:34] <ALR> Tag name should be in form 0.1.x
[23:32:37] <ALR> No prefix
[23:32:50] <lincolnthree1> So something like -Dtag=0.1.x
[23:32:57] <ALR> lincolnthree1: And you'll also need admin menbership to SHIRNKDESC
[23:33:06] <ALR> lincolnthree1: No idea, I always wait for command-line prompt for that
[23:33:12] <lincolnthree1> oh it prompts
[23:33:13] <lincolnthree1> awesome
[23:33:16] <lincolnthree1> didn't know that
[23:33:23] <ALR> I'll walk you throw the first one.
[23:33:34] <lincolnthree1> ill take notes
[23:33:40] <ALR> First, push up your issue (with new JIRA)
[23:34:05] <lincolnthree1> sec, gotta fix my remotes
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[23:35:14] <ALR> lincolnthree1: Do you have permissions to trigger a build on: http://jboss.hudson.alrubinger.com/job/Descriptors/ ?
[23:35:33] <lincolnthree1> doubtful
[23:35:41] <ALR> If you see "Build Now", you do.
[23:35:43] <ALR> Else you don't.
[23:35:55] <lincolnthree1> is this a view from jboss hudson?
[23:36:15] <ALR> Mine.
[23:36:28] <ALR> lincolnthree1: Send me your desired password in PM
[23:38:26] <lincolnthree1> ALR. my git push upstream is doing nothing
[23:38:58] <lincolnthree1> upstream	git at github dot com:shrinkwrap/descriptors.git (push)
[23:39:17] <ALR> lincolnthree1: You should be able to log in and kick a build now.
[23:39:28] <ALR> lincolnthree1: Doing nothing?  No error?
[23:39:36] <lincolnthree1> logged in w/permissions
[23:40:05] <lincolnthree1> nm i think i got it
[23:40:08] <ALR> Cool
[23:40:28] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master 1213f0f.. Lincoln Baxter, III SHRINKDESC-50
[23:40:29] <jbossbot> jira [SHRINKDESC-50] Support creation of nodes via text value queries: getOrCreate() [Open (Unresolved) Enhancement, Major, Lincoln Baxter III] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SHRINKDESC-50
[23:40:29] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master URL: http://github.com/shrinkwrap/descriptors/compare/ff62260...1213f0f
[23:40:30] <lincolnthree1> yep there we go
[23:40:47] <lincolnthree1> kicking a build
[23:41:10] <ALR> lincolnthree1: You're also an Admin now of SHRINKDESC
[23:41:13] <ALR> So the workflow is this:
[23:41:14] <lincolnthree1> that was fast
[23:41:20] <ALR> "Resolve" when you get your stuff upstream
[23:41:26] <lincolnthree1> what kind of server is this on?
[23:41:30] <ALR> And "Close" all Resolved issues when you do a release
[23:41:37] <lincolnthree1> ok
[23:41:47] <ALR> lincolnthree1: It''s an AMD tri-core, RAID0 (striped), with a bunch o RAM
[23:42:01] <lincolnthree1> at your home?
[23:42:03] <ALR> Sits in my apartment.
[23:42:04] <ALR> Yeah.
[23:42:48] <lincolnthree1> ok resolved
[23:43:17] <ALR> lincolnthree1: Cool.  If Hudson is clear you can release.
[23:44:05] <lincolnthree1> starting release with:
[23:44:07] <lincolnthree1> mvn release:clean release:prepare release:perform
[23:44:18] <ALR> Pingo.
[23:44:20] <ALR> *Bingo
[23:45:31] <jc3> ALR: i'm too stupid to get alpha5 working, but i pushed your changes to this branch: https://github.com/torquebox/torquebox/tree/arquillian-alpha5
[23:45:59] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master 10d7e47.. Lincoln Baxter, III [maven-release-plugin] prepare release 0.1.6
[23:45:59] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master URL: http://github.com/shrinkwrap/descriptors/compare/1213f0f...10d7e47
[23:46:02] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master d915827.. Lincoln Baxter, III [maven-release-plugin] prepare for next development iteration
[23:46:02] <jbossbot> git [descriptors] push master URL: http://github.com/shrinkwrap/descriptors/compare/10d7e47...d915827
[23:46:04] <ALR> jc3: OK, so they're stored somewhere.
[23:46:14] <mojavelinux> I vote confidence in your abilities jc3
[23:46:17] <ALR> jc3: If I can find some time and get AS7 working I'll have another look
[23:46:34] <jc3> ALR: 'preciate the help
[23:46:34] <mojavelinux> the fault is with the docs at this point
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[23:47:02] <jc3> mojavelinux: 'preciate your help, too. ;)
[23:48:53] <ALR> jc3: Wish I had more cycles ATM
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[23:54:14] <lincolnthree1> ALR: amen

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