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[11:35:50] <ALR> aslak: Afternoon.
[11:36:39] <aslak> ALR, heya
[11:37:05] <ALR> aslak: I am totally fucked for DevNexus.
[11:37:11] <ALR> In that I fly out in a few hours.
[11:37:17] <ALR> And have yet to do a presentation. :D
[11:37:30] <aslak> ALR, hehe, when's the presentation?
[11:38:29] <ALR> Tuesday.
[11:38:36] <ALR> I found a good block of time Monday afternoon
[11:38:43] <ALR> I like the Monday morning sessions.
[11:38:53] <ALR> So I think that'll be my 4 hours to shine
[11:39:01] <ALR> Plus Tuesday morning, just in case, and to prep.
[11:39:22] <ALR> I got distracted doing OSGi / ShrinkWrap hacking.
[11:39:22] <aslak> :)
[11:39:29] <ALR> Which has been fun.
[11:40:14] <ALR> Hmm...an unaffected deployment requires @Deployment.testable=false?
[11:40:29] <ALR> Are you married to the naming there?
[11:40:47] <aslak> not at all. it's on the list for change
[11:40:52] <ALR> Ah cool.
[11:41:03] <ALR> @Deployment.dontMessWithIt=true
[11:41:18] <ALR> :P
[11:41:26] <aslak> :)
[11:42:11] <aslak> wondering if @RunAsClient on Class level should force testable = false
[11:55:13] <ALR> Wow, we really went NUTZO BALLZO on the TCCL usage in SW.
[11:55:19] <ALR> Which is my fault.
[11:55:25] <ALR> I'm used to the EJB world.
[11:55:39] <ALR> Where at the start of each invocation, first thing we do is set TCCL to the Deployment CL.
[11:55:47] <aslak> yea
[11:55:53] <ALR> So I'm used to abusing it, because I've controlled it.
[11:56:24] <ALR> For archives I've resolved the problem
[11:56:29] <ALR> But some stuff is trickier:
[11:56:35] <ALR> Filters.create, ArchivePaths.create
[11:56:42] <ALR> What CL should be used?! :)
[11:56:50] <ALR> These are static things w/ no context.
[11:57:05] <ALR> Currently I've rewired them to use the CL associated with the default Domain.getConfiguration
[11:57:14] <ALR> But that's...wrong.
[11:58:02] <ALR> I think we need Domain.getFilterFactory, Domain.getArchivePathFactory
[11:58:14] <ALR> Just like we have Domain.getArchiveFactory
[11:58:30] <ALR> So if the user injects the Domain, they can get everything they need using the same config
[11:58:41] <ALR> Glad to talk that out loud.
[11:58:42] <ALR> :)
[12:00:29] <aslak> you can't use the cl where Filters / ArchivePaths was loaded from? it's only to load the impl classes right, a seperation between impl and api. will they ever be loaded differently ?
[12:00:49] <ALR> Yeah, in a module system, who knows?
[12:00:55] <ALR> I thought about that.
[12:01:11] <ALR> impl classes clearly need visibility to the API classes
[12:01:15] <ALR> But not the other way around.
[12:01:26] <aslak> yea true
[12:01:48] <ALR> So it's conceivable that you'd load the impl stuff in a CL that's a child of the CL loading the API
[12:02:47] <aslak> brb, coffee
[12:16:40] <aslak>  b
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[14:24:45] <jbossbot> git [arquillian] push master 1fb187a.. Aslak Knutsen ARQ-55 Add support for dependsOnGroup and dependsOnMethod incontainer by removing them from the TestNG view, let the Client side deal with it.
[14:24:46] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-55] TestNG @Test(dependsOnMethods="") does not work when running inside the container [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-55
[14:24:46] <jbossbot> git [arquillian] push master d7922bb.. Aslak Knutsen ARQ-55 Update to use PersistenceDescriptor
[14:24:46] <jbossbot> git [arquillian] push master 2d8499b.. Aslak Knutsen ARQ-55 Remove TestNG default listener activation. No need to do xml/html reporting in container.
[14:24:46] <jbossbot> git [arquillian] push master URL: http://github.com/arquillian/arquillian/compare/1028b36...2d8499b
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[14:55:12] <aslak> ALR, SHRINKDESC Jira, version 0.1.5 is marked Released, 0.1.4 is unreleased
[15:22:57] <ALR> Well, that's just wrong
[15:22:59] <ALR> Thanks
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