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[15:37:10] <aslak> lol
[15:37:29] <aslak> org.jboss.jbossas:jboss-as-client includes everything... threadpools, hornetq server, full ejb impl, emma(?), ant, bootstrpa, transactions, deployers, corba, jpa, switchboard, scanning, bsh, 3 logging frameworks, profile service, aop, jfreechart, picketbox.. but not cdi
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[15:39:56] <jdlee> hehe
[15:42:52] <aslak> to be fair i guess cdi has no 'client' view...
[15:45:27] <aslak> pmuir, ping
[15:45:34] <pmuir> hi
[15:45:37] <aslak> heya
[15:45:56] <aslak> cdi-api sp4, that is still jsr-299 and part of ee6 right?
[15:47:43] <aslak> pmuir, ^
[15:47:44] <aslak> :)
[15:51:27] <pmuir> yes
[15:51:29] <aslak> pmuir, just trying to clearify if javax:javaee-api is out of date..
[15:51:47] <pmuir> it's 100% api compat
[15:51:53] <pmuir> SP4 just includes javadoc improvements
[15:52:53] <aslak> hmm.. but didn't i see some annotation member name changes in some api related to weld not to long ago?
[15:53:45] <aslak> SP1-SP4 are all javadoc related  ?
[15:57:57] <aslak> pmuir, aa, WELD-699 , neber mind
[15:57:58] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-699] CDI API regression: Observes.notifyObserver has been changed to Observes.receive [Closed, Critical, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-699
[15:58:00] <aslak> never
[15:58:20] <pmuir> yes, we had to fix it all back to where it was ;-)
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[19:59:11] <lightguard_jp> aslak: Have there been a lot of changes to the spi in your fork of arquillian?
[19:59:27] <aslak> lightguard_jp, yea
[19:59:37] <lightguard_jp> breaking changes?
[19:59:47] <lightguard_jp> Like the APIs have changed?
[20:00:09] <aslak> no breaking API changes,  but breaking SPI changes
[20:00:32] <aslak> ShrinkWrap API will change when we update to the latest v.
[20:00:38] <lightguard_jp> Right
[20:00:53] <lightguard_jp> I was looking last night at what it takes to add support for a conainer
[20:01:13] <lightguard_jp> Looking at REST admin in glassfish 3.1, seeing what it would take to create the container support
[20:01:14] <aslak> but Alpha4 API is the same, but more Annotations, some what extended meaning, and new annotation members
[20:01:16] <lightguard_jp> jdlee: ^^
[20:01:45] <aslak> lightguard_jp, yea, what did you find?
[20:01:51] <jdlee> lightguard_jp: *nod*
[20:01:54] <lightguard_jp> It probably wouldn't take much to move a container created currently to the new stuff then?
[20:02:05] <lightguard_jp> Looks like it would be pretty easy for basic support
[20:02:22] <lightguard_jp> Our friend jdlee has done a bunch of the basics in his blog entry :)
[20:02:28] <aslak> lightguard_jp, you mean making one based on ALpha4 spi, and moving it to Beta1 ?
[20:02:34] <lightguard_jp> Yes
[20:03:04] <aslak> lightguard_jp, not to massive changes
[20:03:13] <lightguard_jp> Assuming this would be a remote gf container using the REST API in 3.1 (not sure if it would work correctly in 3.0.1) we'd really just need to deploy and undeploy
[20:03:25] <lightguard_jp> Pretty easy stuff it seems
[20:03:34] <jdlee> yup
[20:03:45] <aslak> Contexts are gone, replaced with a IOC style core, some spi method changes(removed context), added Descriptor deployment.
[20:03:51] <jdlee> lightguard_jp: i actually have REST code already that does that in our REST tests
[20:03:54] <lightguard_jp> I'm just not sure about the undeploy in 3.0.1, and the returns between the two have changed too
[20:04:33] <lightguard_jp> jdlee: Cool, just filling in the gaps for an arquillian remote rest container then?
[20:04:37] <aslak> the biggest change is ProtocolMetadata deploy(Archive<?>), ProtocolMetadata is basically a little object containing info about the deployment, like ip pport to http context, jndi info, rmi info, servlets, remote ejbs
[20:04:57] <jdlee> lightguard_jp: yup.  that's on my list of things to do, but it's a LONG list :(
[20:05:10] <lightguard_jp> jdlee: I may be able to help out.
[20:05:26] <lightguard_jp> Kinda depends what the final say is on getting Seam 3 out the door this week or not.
[20:05:56] <jdlee> cool
[20:06:22] <jdlee> implementing it aside, I'd have to get Legal's approval to commit to the project :|
[20:06:27] <jdlee> that's the real hang up
[20:07:05] <lightguard_jp> Could I use you as a resource without legal getting involved?
[20:07:12] <aslak> ARQ-323
[20:07:13] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-323] Implement a GlassFish 3.1 remote container based on REST API [Open, Minor, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-323
[20:07:16] <jdlee> probably :)
[20:08:22] <aslak> lightguard_jp, want me to assign it ?
[20:09:40] <lightguard_jp> Sure, I'll take it on
[20:10:34] <aslak> done
[20:20:11] <lightguard_jp> aslak: Target jdk version?
[20:23:41] <aslak> source can be 1.6(@Override on interfaces), but compile 1.5
[20:24:09] <lightguard_jp> Okay
[20:25:46] <lightguard_jp> Hm, looking at the various containers, there appears to be a bunch of needed arquillian deps, though I'm not sure what they do
[20:26:11] <lightguard_jp> like arquillian-protocol-servlet-3
[20:26:28] <lightguard_jp> And some of the enrichers, which are needed, etc
[20:27:52] <aslak> for alpha4 and gf, use servlet-3a nd cdi/ejb/resource enrichers
[20:28:15] <aslak> that's changing, but.. :)
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[20:34:38] <lightguard_jp> Okay
[20:34:59] <lightguard_jp> I'll need those as deps and the spi
[20:35:10] <aslak> yea
[20:35:16] <lightguard_jp> Then I'll need to implement the DeployableContainer (I think that was it)
[20:35:20] <aslak> and junit+impl-base to run tests
[20:35:23] <lightguard_jp> That should basically be it, right?
[20:35:26] <lightguard_jp> Right
[20:35:38] <aslak> yea, DeployableContainer and a ContainerConfiguration
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[20:36:01] <lightguard_jp> The ContainerConfiguration is pretty trivial for a remote container
[20:36:05] <aslak> you also need a AuxiliaryArchiveAppender to package up the TestEnrichers, see e.g. JBoss Containers
[20:36:07] <lightguard_jp> At least it looked like
[20:36:30] <aslak> lightguard_jp, yea, ip port should do to begin with
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[20:37:28] <lightguard_jp> hostname too?
[20:37:40] <lightguard_jp> Are these the things that go into the xml file?
[20:37:46] <aslak> yea
[20:38:09] <lightguard_jp> arquillian takes care of parsing it and putting it in the object, correct?
[20:38:12] <aslak> i think we call it, remoteServerAddress and remoteHttpPort
[20:38:15] <aslak> yea
[20:38:18] <lightguard_jp> Sweet
[20:39:03] <aslak> lightguard_jp, in setup(Configuration), you do Configuraiton.getContainerContiguration(MyContainerConfig.class)
[20:39:40] <aslak> remoteServerAddress and remoteServerHttpPort
[20:40:12] <lightguard_jp> Cool
[20:40:12] <aslak> default to localhost and 8080 i guess
[20:40:21] <lightguard_jp> 4848 :) But yeah
[20:40:22] <lightguard_jp> very nice
[20:40:33] <aslak> yeaq, of course, the admin port
[20:40:50] <aslak> ContainerProfile should be CLIENT
[20:40:58] <lightguard_jp> Is there a repo I should fork or just do it my own repo?
[20:41:23] <aslak> lightguard_jp, you wanna do for Alpha4 ?
[20:41:32] <aslak> you can fork https://github.com/arquillian/arquillian
[20:41:36] <lightguard_jp> Yeah, then I can change it later
[20:45:11] <aslak> lightguard_jp, trying to find the naming standard, but can't find it atm
[20:46:26] <aslak> folder: containers/glassfish-remote-3.1, package org.jboss.arquillian.container.glassfish.remote_3_1
[20:47:12] <lightguard_jp> That'll work for me
[20:47:21] <aslak> groupid: org.jboss.arquillian.container artifactid: arquillian-glassfish-remote-5.1
[20:47:59] <aslak> ops, 3.1
[20:48:05] <aslak> :)
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[21:06:58] <lightguard_jp> aslak: Is Beta1 getting close?
[21:08:24] <aslak> lightguard_jp, end of the month
[21:08:30] <lightguard_jp> Oh.  Sweet
[21:08:54] <aslak> brb, dinner
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[21:50:34] <aslak> b
[21:50:59] <aslak> lightguard_jp, it just came to me, remoteServerAdminPort is probably a better name... :)
[21:51:37] <lightguard_jp> Yeah
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[23:01:17] <lightguard_jp> aslak: In the current glassfish-remote-3 there's a web.xml and a sun-web.xml, do we still need those to be added?
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[23:01:55] <lightguard_jp> I'm going on the assumption that I'll copy the current one, but still question (if for no other reason to understand) why and if things are still needed
[23:02:04] <aslak> lightguard_jp, don't hope so.. those are hacks due to the lack of archive name in the jsr-88 api
[23:02:18] <lightguard_jp> aslak: Okay
[23:02:27] <lightguard_jp> We should have an archive name :)
[23:02:36] <aslak> to name a deployment in jsr-88, the solution is to add a vendor specific deplyoment plan
[23:02:46] <aslak> if no name is given, it just generates something random
[23:02:55] <lightguard_jp> lol, wow
[23:03:02] <lightguard_jp> Love the way things were done in early java
[23:03:04] <aslak> nice huh.. :)
[23:03:10] <lightguard_jp> Oh, well, the vendors will figure it out
[23:03:19] <lightguard_jp> No point in actually stating a standard
[23:03:24] <lightguard_jp> Same with JNDI
[23:06:20] <aslak> :)
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[23:07:05] <lightguard_jp> J2EE: Write once, debug and reconfigure for every server
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