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[10:33:33] <aslak> lfryc, hey
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[10:53:58] <lfryc> aslak: hello there...
[10:57:23] <aslak> lfryc, happy new years!
[10:57:47] <aslak> lfryc, hows the extracation/moving of Ajocado going?
[10:58:25] <lfryc> aslak: happy and successful coding in this year to you too.... :-)
[10:59:08] <lfryc> aslak: I already converted it to Git, need to refactor some interfaces and then we can release
[10:59:43] <lfryc> aslak: the problem is we are currently releasing and I need to finish my diploma thesis eod tomorrow :-)
[10:59:54] <lfryc> so full plate currently
[10:59:55] <aslak> lfryc, ok, you made your own github org/user ?
[11:00:10] <aslak> lfryc, hehe, no time presure from me, just wondering.. :)
[11:00:11] <lfryc> aslak: yes, I  have user already..
[11:00:40] <lfryc> aslak: I will at first refactor the project and code-review with kpiwko, then we can publish it
[11:01:03] <aslak> url=?
[11:01:47] <lfryc> https://github.com/LukasFryc
[11:01:59] <aslak> aa, of course, full name.. :)
[11:02:09] <lfryc> Ajocado is not published there, it is in internal git.engineering repo
[11:02:14] <aslak> aa ok
[11:03:08] <aslak> lfryc, planning any arq extension this time around? or keeping it testng based?
[11:04:17] <lfryc> aslak: planning movement closer to Arq, but want to left extensions to work without it
[11:05:01] <lfryc> aslak: I want introduce API which can be statically imported, some kind of Mockito flavor..
[11:05:20] <aslak> ok
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[12:18:09] <kpiwko> aslak, lfryc: happy coding in this year to both of you! ;)
[12:20:07] <lfryc> kpiwko: thanks, I feel I will pretty enjoy this year... currently finally working on two of my babies: RushEye and Ajocado.. ;-)
[12:21:33] <kpiwko> lfryc: nice! I have good news about Burza application, basically I've solved Selenium Server startup/shutdown so there's no blocker to have it tested in IDE ;)
[12:22:02] <lfryc> kpiwko: good news!
[12:32:00] <aslak> kpiwko, happy coding.. :)
[12:41:17] <kpiwko> aslak, thanks for the comments to my commits
[12:41:39] <kpiwko> I'll work through them this week
[12:43:05] <kpiwko> aslak, however, I'm totally confused about renaming you have done...e.g. ContextActivator -> BeforeLifecycleEventExecutor and so opposite order of Activation and deactivation then it was before in ArquillianProfile
[12:44:37] <aslak> kpiwko, different things
[12:45:39] <aslak> Context(De)Activator has been moved out from being Observers to being handled in the EventTestAdaptor as it used to be in Alpha4. it caused to many problems having them as part of the execution chain
[12:46:49] <aslak> Before/AfterLifecycleEventExecutor  are handlers for executing the @Before/After/BeforeClass/AfterClass on the TestClass, so we only execute them incontainer.
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[12:48:05] <aslak> After is put first in the chain becuase we want to call out stuff After the users lifecycle, and Before last, because we want to call our stuff Before the users
[12:48:13] <aslak> out/our
[12:50:32] <aslak> Arquillian -> Users Before, Users After -> Arquillian
[12:51:09] <aslak> we might want both, but that's the setup currently..
[12:51:10] <kpiwko> aslak, I see now
[12:51:57] <aslak> they should actually fire some events, BeforeBeforeExecution, AfterBeforeExecution etc..
[13:01:24] <kpiwko> aslak, speaking about incontainer execution, if arquillian-selenium is supposed to run asclient, I'll create a getContainerProfile() which throws UnsupportedModeProfileException or something...this way I don't need to cope with After/BeforeLifecycleExecutors at all
[13:02:46] <aslak> kpiwko, well, as long as you don't have a AuxiliaryDeploymentAppender that packages up the Profile SPI as part of a deployment, it will never be found in container
[13:03:08] <aslak> and you shouldn't care about those anyway.. (when we figure out the ordering )
[13:04:56] <kpiwko> right, I'll add incontainer with Selenium to my TODO
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[13:05:26] <aslak> kpiwko, is there a need for it?
[13:06:17] <aslak> could be interesting to test web sites from a different server i guess...
[13:06:35] <aslak> deploy to server 1, test server 2 from server 1
[13:07:31] <kpiwko> aslak, somewhere with really low priority...in my pov the only reason to have it atm is because I often forget to add @RunAs and this spawns strange exceptions ;)
[13:07:56] <aslak> :)
[13:08:08] <aslak> kpiwko, create a issue on it..
[13:08:50] <kpiwko> ok, I'll do
[13:15:30] <kpiwko> aslak, another question...you commented SeleniumConfigured event to have SeleniumConfiguration reference...however, you moved Configuration builder to descriptors and so I think ExtensionConfiguration approach is no longer valid...so I'll have to create an extra XML file with a descriptor or add ExtensionDef to ArquillianDescriptor? I like the latter way more, one configuration file rules them all :)
[13:20:06] <aslak> kpiwko, yea, ArquillianDescriptor should have Extension support like it had.. I just missed it when i converted it
[13:20:33] <kpiwko> aslak, I'll handle that this will be an easy job
[13:20:44] <aslak> sure
[13:22:27] <aslak> now that we have levels of configuration, root and group, different groups representing different servers with different ips etc.. will extensions be a global config, or should it be pr group as well
[13:22:49] <aslak> for selenium it's the driver you config right? nothing container specific, so i guess global should do
[13:24:09] <aslak> and if it supports the selenium server url to use, that should be the same if you test on glassfish or jboss.. meaning global is still ok
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[18:56:14] <kpiwko> aslak, JBoss AS 6 Final was released on Dec 28, I'd like to update version in jboss-remote-6 container...should I run more container based test or is it sufficient if it works for Selenium extension?
[18:58:26] <aslak> kpiwko, sure.. there are a couple of other things you can update while in there.. :)
[18:58:45] <aslak> ARQ-57
[18:58:46] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-57] JBossAS Remote Containers Depend upon Sun JDK [Open, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-57
[18:59:01] <kpiwko> aslak, np
[19:00:54] <aslak> everything that has to do with the local httpFileServer for deployment is not needed. using ...deploymentManager.distribute(.., true) does what we need. transferes the file from client to server, so no need for the http stuff
[19:01:07] <kpiwko> nice
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[19:01:15] <aslak> that goes for all the JBoss Remote containers
[19:01:19] <aslak> 5.0, 5.1 and 6.0
[19:01:27] <aslak> I missunderstood the api..
[19:02:20] <aslak> inside distribute, URL.openStream is used, so yo ucan easly replace all that stuff with a custom url with a URLStreamHandler and put it in there instea
[19:02:21] <aslak> d
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[19:05:41] <aslak> and the HDScanner bug has been fixed, so we can remove the HDScanner stop/start stuff: ARQ-353
[19:05:43] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-353] Remove DeploymentScanner disabling [Open, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-353
[19:06:19] <kpiwko> aslak, will be done...Do you have an estimate how much work must be done until next Arquillian release? We (lfryc and me) would like to have an presentation on Arquillian + Ajocado + JSF2 + Seam 3 on Feb 10 and it would be awesome if by this date we can use stable artifacts from public JBoss Maven repo
[19:06:24] <aslak> also, 6.0.Final comes with a new Profile Service Client API pom we can use instead of the jbossas-client-all one. changes the dep tree from 249 deps to 20 or so
[19:08:06] <aslak> kpiwko, i hope to have it out this month. The move to multi deployments / multi container / multi protocols are causing more headaces then original expected.. but we're getting there.. :)
[19:08:28] <aslak> kpiwko, this is making me dizzy: http://arquillian.pastebin.com/bVfmW23z ;)
[19:13:46] <kpiwko> aslak, well this seems rather to complicated for me ... but it might save some maven magic eventually :)
[19:14:09] <kpiwko> or rather ant/maven/groovy magic we have atm
[19:14:45] <aslak> well, this doesn't avoid that.. but. :)
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[19:17:55] <aslak> basically just how to define the new model to the full, targeting multiple containers, using multiple deployments(descriptors, testable, startup/manual), the deployer API for manual deployment, enriched with different protocols pr deployment, individual @Test/@Before methods targeted for in_container/as_client testing against/in the different containers.. and so on
[19:19:08] <aslak> trying to plow through how to do the @Before/@After lifecycles in a sensable way atm..
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[19:21:46] <kpiwko> I'm leaving to fetch a dinner ;) ...btw, I've just pushed ARQ-352 and new ARQ-329 version
[19:21:48] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-352] ArquillianDescriptor should support configuration of extensions [Open, Minor, Karel Piwko] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-352
[19:21:49] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-329] Support Ajocado in Selenium extension [Open, Major, Karel Piwko] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-329
[19:23:43] <aslak> kpiwko, excellent
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[22:59:49] <Newbee2> Hello
[23:01:06] <Newbee2> I am interested in trying Aquillian.
[23:01:13] <Newbee2> How could i begin
[23:03:00] <Newbee2> I did setup a Maven Project but because of its Aplha status was not able to get the dependenca
[23:03:05] <Newbee2> ys
[23:03:34] <Newbee2> Somebody here?
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