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[00:57:03] <stuartdouglas> dmlloyd: You know how we were talking yesterday about the weird class loader visibility situations you can get with jboss modules?
[00:57:11] <dmlloyd> yeah
[00:57:17] <dmlloyd> good morning btw
[00:57:18] <stuartdouglas> I think one place that will be a big problem is de-serialization
[00:57:22] <dmlloyd> yeah
[00:58:04] <dmlloyd> for stuff like JSF I want to use our own provider which uses JBMAR river, and uses a resolver which annotates the module name, using TCCL if the module isn't available
[00:58:38] <dmlloyd> serialization is smart enough to write descriptors for each serializable class in the hierarchy, to which we can attach the module of the initiating CL
[00:58:55] <dmlloyd> anyway that should work for nearly any situation
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[00:59:02] <stuartdouglas> ok, has that been implemented yet?
[00:59:07] <dmlloyd> yeah more or less
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[00:59:17] <dmlloyd> I don't think I have the TCCL fallback stuff anywhere
[00:59:52] <dmlloyd> but we have: https://github.com/dmlloyd/jboss-marshalling/blob/master/api/src/main/java/org/jboss/marshalling/ModularClassResolver.java
[00:59:57] <dmlloyd> and: https://github.com/dmlloyd/jboss-marshalling/blob/master/api/src/main/java/org/jboss/marshalling/ModularClassTable.java
[01:00:32] <dmlloyd> the former is for communicating in situations where a module class might be different on read than it was on write
[01:00:35] <stuartdouglas> ok cool
[01:00:38] <dmlloyd> e.g. between two different environments
[01:00:51] <dmlloyd> the latter is for saving and loading into the same JVM or installed image
[01:00:58] <stuartdouglas> I am down to 6 CDI tck fails locally, and one of them is serialization
[01:00:59] <dmlloyd> the latter being somewhat more efficient
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[01:21:05] <stuartdouglas> dmlloyd: Do you mind if I remove EEApplicationDescription, and replace it with a per module component aggregator? Things like @EJB need to be able to support relative path syntax such us (../other.jar#mybean) which I think would be easier to deal with on a per DU basis
[01:22:25] <dmlloyd> only if you're sure you won't break anything - remember that that class exists to sync up components within the app scope
[01:22:30] <dmlloyd> between modules
[01:23:02] <misty> (09:24:26 AM) dmlloyd: only if you're sure you won't break anything <-- lol
[01:24:20] <stuartdouglas> actually I may just try and modify it to support the path syntax
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[02:12:29] <jhalliday> dmlloyd: you awake?
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[02:12:37] <dmlloyd> yeah
[02:12:48] <jhalliday> did you get to look at the IIOP stuff yesterday?
[02:13:00] <dmlloyd> yeah I did, sguilhen is going to look at a few things
[02:13:12] <dmlloyd> I think it's good enough though that you could start developing against it
[02:13:25] <jhalliday> ok, so progressing but not ready for push to the mainline yet?
[02:13:26] <dmlloyd> if you don't mind working off of his branch for a while
[02:13:28] <dmlloyd> right
[02:13:32] <dmlloyd> it's pretty close though
[02:13:37] <dmlloyd> just some config stuff needs changing
[02:14:23] <jhalliday> k. also Shelly's changes for AS7-795? that looks ready for merge...
[02:14:24] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-795] Upgrade to JBossTS 4.15 [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Jason Greene] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-795
[02:14:45] <dmlloyd> Nihility: is that you?
[02:14:57] <dmlloyd> it's assigned to you at least
[02:15:06] <dmlloyd> not sure if that was just a default assignment
[02:19:19] <misty> yay! transactions upgrade
[02:19:31] <misty> hi jhalliday :)
[02:20:03] <jhalliday> good morning misty
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[02:35:14] <Nihility> dmlloyd: i was auto assigned
[02:35:52] <dmlloyd> okay
[02:36:01] <dmlloyd> so we could probably merge that I guess, if jhalliday gives his OK
[02:36:15] <Nihility> IIRC smarlow was attempting it
[02:36:50] <Nihility> oh right
[02:37:05] <Nihility> jhalliday: is that ok with you? :)
[02:37:31] <jhalliday> it looks reasonable from the tx side yes. if the tests pass I say go for it.
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[02:43:33] <stuartdouglas> dmlloyd: I have a bit of stuff in my master ready to merge
[02:44:04] <stuartdouglas> It adds injection into jsf managed beans, and a few other fixes for the CDI tck
[02:44:21] <dmlloyd> nice!
[02:44:32] <dmlloyd> will look shortly
[02:45:07] <stuartdouglas> the JSF injection is pretty horrible, but without patching the RI to have a nicer SPI, I can't see any way around it
[02:46:34] <stuartdouglas> This leaves me with 6 failures, 1 Serialization, 2 due to no TimerService, 2 due to no @Remove methods, and injection into web service endpoints
[02:46:54] <Nihility> dmlloyd: ill merge the patch then
[02:47:03] <Nihility> dmlloyd: the tx one, tonight
[02:51:46] <dmlloyd> ok thanks
[02:54:35] <pgier> dmlloyd, Nihility: can one of you pull some build updates for me?
[02:54:50] <pgier> the changes are in my build-updates branch in github: https://github.com/pgier/jboss-as/tree/build-updates
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[02:57:35] <dmlloyd> pgier: is there a reason to start specifying the groupId for those plugins?
[02:57:57] <pgier> I just did it to be consistent
[02:58:06] <pgier> since sometime they were specified and sometimes not
[02:58:19] <pgier> I thought it's better to be more explicit
[02:59:06] <dmlloyd> okay just wanted to be sure maven wasn't going to start failing if we didn't, or something
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[03:23:35] <smarlow> Nihility: I didn't do anything with TS yet, Shelly mentioned that we could cherry pick one of her commits
[03:24:14] <smarlow> I'm not sure how much she tested
[03:25:11] <smarlow> Nihility: her commit is at https://github.com/smcgowan/jboss-as/commit/a77e461a1cb9e0c1d67689bee349dad64aa3165e
[03:25:12] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] a77e461.. Shelly McGowan AS7-795 - Upgrade to JBossTS 4.15.0
[03:25:13] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-795] Upgrade to JBossTS 4.15 [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Jason Greene] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-795
[03:27:30] <smarlow> Nihility: it looks like the ^ commit includes jhalliday's patch changes also
[03:36:57] <misty> Can someone clue me in on the difference between setting logging parameters in domain.xml and tweaking logging.properties?
[03:38:45] <bobmcw> is logging.properties purely bootstrap?
[03:38:50] <bobmcw> I see a msg about removing bootstrap handlers
[03:38:57] <bobmcw> is that handing off to domain.xml?
[03:39:10] * bobmcw doesn't know
[03:39:36] * misty either
[03:40:53] <misty> it appears you are right, bobmcw
[03:41:04] <misty> can we get confirmation? Nihility smarlow dmlloyd
[03:42:22] <dmlloyd> logging.properties is bootstrap only
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[03:42:35] <dmlloyd> someday (hopefully soon) it will be even more so - it will only affect first boot
[03:43:39] <bobmcw> dmlloyd: can you provide a make-pristine.sh script to reset everything to out-of-the-box factory settings?
[03:44:12] <dmlloyd> not personally :) but that's a good idea, can you file an enhancement request for it?
[03:44:29] <misty> I will vote for that
[03:45:03] <misty> dmlloyd: if it only will affect firstboot, will it be deleted by firstboot?
[03:45:40] <bobmcw> AS7-829
[03:45:41] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-829] make-pristine.sh to reset an AS installation to factory settings [Open (Unresolved) Enhancement, Major, Jason Greene] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-829
[03:45:54] <misty> or barring that, should customers be told they can delete it?
[03:46:10] <misty> poor Jason gets everything assigned to him
[03:46:45] <dmlloyd> the logging properties? nah that should hang around I think
[03:46:52] <dmlloyd> maybe with a big old note in it though
[03:46:55] <dmlloyd> once that change is made
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[03:47:34] <misty> I suppose the likelihood that people read comments in config files is about the same as that they actually read docs
[03:48:32] <bobmcw> also AS7-830
[03:48:33] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-830] using JMSQueueService to create and bind queues to new contexts with previously-non-existant-parents causes MockContext/BindingTrap/HornetQ to get confused on context heritage [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Jason Greene] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-830
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[03:58:40] <jhalliday> is there actually going to be a beta4 or is the channel topic out of date?
[03:58:56] <bobmcw> cr1 ~ 15jun is next, from what I hear
[03:59:06] <bobmcw> beta release too much of a time sink
[03:59:59] <jhalliday> CR1 is 23rd May per DOC-58239
[04:00:12] <jhalliday> I guess both the doc and the topic are wrong then
[04:00:23] <jhalliday> business as usual really :-)
[04:03:05] <dmlloyd> too many people trying to maintain separate status pages imo
[04:03:31] <dmison> asynchronous scheduling ?
[04:03:36] <dmison> :-)
[04:05:19] <jhalliday> probably a scatter gun approach so that there is at least one schedule we can call accurate regardless of when we actually ship.
[04:05:46] <dmison> throw schedules at the wall and see what ships
[04:06:33] <jhalliday> probably dreamed up by the same kind of people who buy multiple lottery tickets
[04:06:42] <jhalliday> and about as likely to work
[04:07:22] <stuartdouglas> what, buying multiple lottery tickets does not work?
[04:07:37] * stuartdouglas starts looking for a new get rich quick scheme
[04:08:54] <dmison> I suggest *selling* lottery tickets
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[04:12:32] <stuartdouglas> dmlloyd: Is there anything in particular you want me to work on at the moment, or should I start grabbing open JIRA's? There is not much more to do on the CDI integration and most of it is blocked on EJB stuff
[04:15:00] <dmlloyd> yeah actually
[04:15:12] <dmlloyd> this JSTL sql driver debacle
[04:15:33] * dmlloyd trying to find the info...
[04:16:39] <stuartdouglas> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBCTS-1101 ?
[04:16:40] <jbossbot> jira [JBCTS-1101] Redirected to: https://issues.jboss.org/login.jsp?permissionViolation=true&os_destination=%2Fsi%2Fjira.issueviews%3Aissue-xml%2FJBCTS-1101%2FJBCTS-1101.xml
[04:18:57] <dmlloyd> yeah
[04:19:07] <dmlloyd> basically it all boils down to DriverManager
[04:19:14] <dmlloyd> which is impossibly incompatible with modules
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[04:19:27] <dmlloyd> so that JSTL spec JAR class has to be changed to use something else
[04:19:41] <dmlloyd> connector has a DriverRegistry which would work perfectly
[04:19:57] <dmlloyd> however connector won't likely be present in web profile which is where we need this
[04:20:26] <dmlloyd> so there's some fairly easy fix possible, just need to figure out which
[04:21:03] <stuartdouglas> where does the spec jar live?
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[04:24:09] <stuartdouglas> http://svn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/projects/specs/trunk/jboss-jstl-api_1.2_spec/
[04:34:37] <dmlloyd> yeah
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[06:51:23] <misty> Is the JMX console gone in AS7?
[06:52:40] <dmlloyd> yes
[06:57:41] <misty> is there going to be anything like it?
[06:58:01] <dmlloyd> the admin console should cover it
[06:58:22] <misty> well lots of components had management beans for the JMX console
[06:58:32] <misty> what will replace that? just the management console?
[07:00:29] <dmlloyd> yeah
[07:00:50] <dmlloyd> in AS7, the components use the AS admin layer instead of JMX
[07:01:09] <dmlloyd> and for system JMX stuff we'll supposedly have a view for it
[07:01:20] <dmlloyd> though I've only just heard the very first discussion on that today
[07:01:51] <dmlloyd> there will probably be a JMX view of the AS admin layer though, eventually
[07:01:58] <dmlloyd> in case someone wants to use jconsole or something
[07:03:22] <misty> ok fair enough
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[08:35:29] <opalka> morning
[08:35:48] <stuartdouglas> morning
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[09:04:24] <dmison> Anyone free to have a quick look at a app deployment issue to standalone ? I have a simple rest+hibernate webapp that runs fine in EAP5 but complains about a lack of org.hibernate.Session in AS7 Beta3
[09:05:30] <dmison> I can see modules/org/hibernate/main/hibernate-code-3.6.1.Final.jar has org/hibernate/Session.class
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[09:09:37] <dmison> for anyone interested: http://pastebin.com/ZuF2UkpZ
[09:11:51] <dmison> I removed the resteasy jars from the app, just have hibernate-search.jar and lucene-core.jar in there
[09:13:28] <stuartdouglas> dmison: Are you using JPA or plain hibernate?
[09:14:04] <dmison> plain hibernate ... disclaimer: I'm a bit of a EE noob
[09:15:06] <stuartdouglas> dmison: That looks like a bug in the JPA subsystem
[09:15:49] <stuartdouglas> at the moment unless you have an @PersistenceContext or @PersistenceUnit annotation in your deployment the JPA related classes will not be visible
[09:15:49] <dmison> k, what info do you need me to include in a JIRA for it ?
[09:16:25] <stuartdouglas> a simple way to fix it would be to add a Dependencies: org.hibernate to your manifest.mf file
[09:16:34] <dmison> oh, so the classloading is "on demand" ?
[09:17:19] <stuartdouglas> JBAS-9034
[09:17:21] <jbossbot> jira [JBAS-9034] Redirected to: https://issues.jboss.org/si/jira.issueviews:issue-xml/AS7-564/AS7-564.xml
[09:17:22] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-564] Applications should be able to inject a persistence context/unit from a separate deployment by using a fully scoped (appname#puname) reference [Closed (Done) Sub-task, Major, Scott Marlow] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-564
[09:17:29] <stuartdouglas> hmm, thats not it
[09:19:09] <stuartdouglas> in your jira just say that as you are not using @PersistenceContext or @PersistenceUnit your deployment is not being marked as a JPA deployment, and the hibernate jars are not availible
[09:19:57] <dmison> will do
[09:19:59] <dmison> thanks
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[09:20:22] <dmison> adding the item to manifest worked fine btw :-)
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[10:12:20] <rmaucher> kkhan: pull request for you: https://github.com/rmaucher/jboss-as/commit/86d08d3ab7bae99db490054f5cb55658cd89d14b and https://github.com/rmaucher/jboss-as/commit/45fe0a6a9e488b5e13cb191bff4d38c206cf1916
[10:12:21] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] 86d08d3.. Rémy Maucherat Add the JPA valve metadata.
[10:12:21] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] 45fe0a6.. Rémy Maucherat Add stream handler factory for web.
[10:25:16] <kkhan> rmaucher: Looking
[10:25:28] <rmaucher> thanks :)
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[10:35:26] <kkhan> tdiesler: You created: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-819. That test actually seems to be running in my checkout of master
[10:35:28] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-819] Fix or remove @Ignore in ServerInModuleStartupTestCase [Open (Unresolved) Sub-task, Major, Kabir Khan] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-819
[10:35:42] <kkhan> Can I close it?
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[10:37:27] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 86d08d3.. Rémy Maucherat Add the JPA valve metadata.
[10:37:27] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 45fe0a6.. Rémy Maucherat Add stream handler factory for web.
[10:37:28] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/c058e9a...45fe0a6
[10:38:07] <rmaucher> thanks :)
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[10:41:51] <kkhan> de nada
[10:43:21] <hbraun> kkhan: could you verify patch ?
[10:43:47] <hbraun> kkhan: i am currently working on that: AS7-701
[10:43:49] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-701] server-config model carries both "system-property" and "system-properties" subresource [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Brian Stansberry] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-701
[10:43:55] <kkhan> hbraun: Please send it to the list, I've got quite a few to go through this morning
[10:44:07] <kkhan> Brian submitted a request for that one too
[10:44:13] <kkhan> but I have not looked yet
[10:44:20] <hbraun> yes, thats what I mean
[10:44:22] <hbraun> oik
[10:44:37] <hbraun> if you got time that would be excellent
[10:44:49] <kkhan> Do you have a patch for Brian's stuff, or do you want Brian's in?
[10:45:05] <hbraun> i need brain's in, to continue my work
[10:45:12] <hbraun> brian's
[10:45:17] <kkhan> ok, I'll look at that one now
[10:45:26] <hbraun> tnx
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[11:19:19] <maeste> hbraun: ping
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[11:20:43] <hbraun> maeste: pong
[11:20:54] <maeste> hbraun: looking at AS7-800
[11:20:55] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-800] Index out of bounds when creating datasource [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Blocker, Stefano Maestri] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-800
[11:21:02] <hbraun> yes
[11:21:08] <maeste> hbraun: not sure to understand what you are doing there
[11:21:16] <maeste> hbraun: you are adding a datasource
[11:21:33] <maeste> specifying driver-major and minor version?
[11:21:46] <hbraun> guess that's a left over
[11:22:08] <hbraun> it will be removed
[11:22:15] <hbraun> does it cause the error?
[11:22:20] <maeste> hbraun: perhaps my code is not sufficient good in error handling
[11:22:25] <maeste> hbraun: yup probably
[11:22:49] <maeste> hbraun: I'll try now, I want just to be sure on what you are trying to do
[11:22:53] <hbraun> but shouldn't it simply ignore unknown attributes?
[11:23:05] <maeste> hbraun: yup it should in fact
[11:23:15] <maeste> hbraun: let me have a look
[11:23:17] <hbraun> i think it's not cleaned up after the merge
[11:23:29] <hbraun> maybe yours isn't as well?
[11:23:30] <hbraun> ;)
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[11:24:56] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master c302736.. bstansberry at jboss dot com [AS7-701] Make system property handling consistent
[11:24:57] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-701] server-config model carries both "system-property" and "system-properties" subresource [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Brian Stansberry] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-701
[11:24:58] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 8c986cd.. kabir Add system-property/boot-time to model descriptions at non-server level
[11:24:58] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/45fe0a6...8c986cd
[11:24:59] <kkhan> hbraun: ^^
[11:25:09] <hbraun> kkhan: thank you very much
[11:25:14] <kkhan> np
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[11:54:47] <AndyTaylor> maeste: ping
[11:54:56] <maeste> AndyTaylor: pong
[11:55:01] <AndyTaylor> maeste: hows it going
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[12:20:29] <opalka> hbraun, Hi heiko
[12:20:52] <opalka> hbraun, how do I hot deploy archive to running domain
[12:21:01] <opalka> hbraun, in standalone I just copy it to deployments dir
[12:21:07] <opalka> hbraun, is there some doc about it ?
[12:22:17] <opalka> kkhan, ^^^
[12:25:00] <kkhan> opalka: DomainClient, and then get hold of the DomainDeploymentManager
[12:25:18] <kkhan> Also DomainDeploymentUtils in demos does that
[12:25:49] * opalka 's having a look ...
[12:25:52] <kkhan> Although DomainDeploymentUtils creates the operations manually. It should probably be ported to use the manager at some stage
[12:26:10] <opalka> kkhan, how about cli deployment - does it support domains ?
[12:26:51] <kkhan> opalka: I believe so, I think I vaguely remember merging some patch from alexey some weeks ago
[12:27:26] <opalka> kkhan, thx, I'll try via cli ...
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[12:30:23] <kkhan> opalka: I think some of the commits here https://github.com/aloubyansky/jboss-as/commits/cli?page=3 around 1 and 2 of May might be helpful
[12:30:38] <opalka> kkhan, thx 4 pointers
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[12:31:09] <kkhan> When deploying to a domain you need to specify the server group the deployment should be deployed to
[12:32:37] <opalka> kkhan, I found http://community.jboss.org/wiki/DeployAndUndeployWithTheCLI
[12:33:13] <kkhan> Aha, probably better than sifting through commits :-)
[12:35:35] <opalka> kkhan, definitely :)
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[12:39:42] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master fa719e6.. jaikiran AS7-817 Remove the @Ignore on @Remote binding tests
[12:39:43] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-817] Fix or remove @Ignore in EarDeploymentEjbJndiBindingTestCase [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Sub-task, Major, jaikiran pai] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-817
[12:39:43] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 831e84f.. jaikiran AS7-827 Enable @Remote binding tests
[12:39:44] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-827] Fix or remove @Ignore in StandaloneModuleEjbJndiBindingTestCase [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Sub-task, Major, jaikiran pai] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-827
[12:39:44] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 98989bd.. jaikiran Implement EJBContext.setRollbackOnly() and EJBContext.getRollbackOnly()
[12:39:44] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/8c986cd...98989bd
[12:41:54] <opalka> kkhan, in standalone there's subsystem node available
[12:42:03] <opalka> kkhan, I don't see something similar in domain node ?
[12:42:32] <kkhan> For domain it will live under profile
[12:43:01] <kkhan> and then for the individual running servers it should be similar to standalone
[12:43:03] <opalka> kkhan, found it /profile=default
[12:43:14] <opalka> kkhan, thx
[12:44:09] <kkhan> opalka: The idea is that when setting up a domain you can set up several profiles. Servers belong to a server-group, which is set up to use a particular profile
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[12:52:26] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 7e56f0f.. Marcus Moyses test case for custom login module
[12:52:26] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 639eb5f.. Marcus Moyses removing implementation specific casting
[12:52:26] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 2255742.. Marcus Moyses moving infinispan subsytem up so it can be eagerly used for authentication cache
[12:52:27] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/98989bd...2255742
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[13:05:40] <darranl> hi kkhan - will it still work for you if I make it to the office close to 10:30 tomorrow?
[13:05:59] <kkhan> darranl: Yeah, no problem - I don't like getting up early :-)
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[13:06:26] <darranl> kkhan, same here and the train ticket at that time is a fraction of the price 7.50 compared to almost 20.00
[13:06:40] <kkhan> Wow, big difference
[13:06:56] <darranl> and I still have underground to pay on top of that !!
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[13:07:11] <darranl> so 7.50 is more desirable ;-)
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[13:42:05] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 49b2517.. bstansberry at jboss dot com [AS7-701] Remove leftover op handler registration
[13:42:07] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-701] server-config model carries both "system-property" and "system-properties" subresource [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Brian Stansberry] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-701
[13:42:07] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/2255742...49b2517
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[13:44:46] <hbraun> bstansberry: having props as subresources is much better
[13:44:47] <hbraun> tnx
[13:44:59] <bstansberry> glad to hear that
[13:45:11] <hbraun> one less exception ti the rule
[13:45:24] <bstansberry> i was worried that would piss you off, after you said "no thanks" 4 times
[13:45:34] <hbraun> ;)
[13:45:47] <hbraun> well, the changes to my code have been trivial
[13:45:50] <bstansberry> good
[13:45:59] <hbraun> but I have another hing I would like to discuss with you
[13:46:00] <pilhuhn> was just about to report as7-618 again - that Jira autosearch is great!
[13:46:24] <bstansberry> when i looked at the patch i hadn't applied there was an ugly thing and i just couldn't stand it
[13:46:31] <bstansberry> AS7-618
[13:46:32] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-618] It is possible to create a bad Queue [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-618
[13:47:35] <hbraun> it requies the jndi name, no?
[13:47:38] <pilhuhn> actually it may be a different version of that http://fpaste.org/Ong7/
[13:47:50] <pilhuhn> hbraun yes. But even without it, creation succeeded
[13:48:07] <hbraun> in that case the op handler it rubbish
[13:48:13] <hbraun> use the console
[13:48:15] <hbraun> ;)
[13:48:23] <hbraun> it validates the input
[13:48:23] <pilhuhn> in the pastie case, the mgmt even tells me that by add failed , but the queue is created nevertheless
[13:48:36] <pilhuhn> :-P
[13:48:42] <hbraun> yeah, i think that a general problem brian is working on
[13:48:47] <hbraun> see AS7-801
[13:48:48] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-801] Subsystem "datasource": Management operations result in inconsistent state [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Blocker, Brian Stansberry] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-801
[13:48:48] <bstansberry> yes
[13:49:15] <pilhuhn> shall I mention on -801, that not only datasources suffer from this :)
[13:49:31] <bstansberry> no, i know
[13:49:55] <bstansberry> although I don't know why your fpaste failure happens
[13:50:27] <pilhuhn> server-demo is down, so it has no handler
[13:50:52] <bstansberry> oh, ok, you reported that
[13:51:33] <bstansberry> pilhuhn: IIRC you'd killed it?
[13:51:37] <pilhuhn> but the failure on server-one is not obvious , as it is up. And also the console log / exception does not give any sensible answer
[13:53:00] <pilhuhn> I don't think so. I started it as admin down I think and then later started it. That was yesterday (trivia question: what song / band ?) . BUt I don't think I've touched it since
[13:54:31] <maeste> bstansberry: ping
[13:54:49] <bstansberry> maeste: back in one minute
[13:55:02] <maeste> bstansberry: np, just ping me when available
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[14:05:47] <bstansberry> maeste: ping
[14:06:03] <maeste> bstansberry: one question about CLI
[14:06:22] <maeste> bstansberry: I'm trying to do something like that https://gist.github.com/978436
[14:06:49] <maeste> bstansberry: bit it seems that xa-data-source-properties format (a set of proprety nested) is not valid
[14:07:17] <maeste> bstansberry: isn't set of propreties supported at all, or am I just using a wrong notation?
[14:08:08] <maeste> bstansberry: I'm getting an exception in my code, but is just saying that xa-data-source-properties is empty
[14:08:19] <bstansberry> is there just one outer property, xa-data-source-properties ?
[14:08:47] <bstansberry> and everything else is nested?
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[14:09:29] <maeste> bstansberry: no, jndi.-name, driver-name and some other are at the same level of xa-data-source-properties
[14:09:45] <maeste> bstansberry: xa-data-source-properties ca have one or multiple nested properties
[14:09:51] <maeste> *can
[14:12:42] <bstansberry> maeste: https://gist.github.com/978436#comments
[14:12:50] <bstansberry> see if either of those work
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[14:12:59] <bstansberry> i'm guessing the former
[14:13:03] <maeste> bstansberry: oki, trying
[14:13:24] <bstansberry> the [ ] is the notation for a list; the type of that param is probably a list of properties
[14:14:06] <maeste> bstansberry: no, didn't work both
[14:14:52] <bstansberry> there's a space in there after the = as well; not sure if that affects things
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[14:17:52] <maeste> bstansberry: no, it's not the space (tried to remove it)
[14:18:09] <bstansberry> I posted two more comments
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[14:20:36] <maeste> bstansberry: both workings :)
[14:20:41] <bstansberry> cool
[14:21:02] <bstansberry> the CLI syntax is ...
[14:21:10] <maeste> .....
[14:21:13] <bstansberry> paramname=paramvalue
[14:21:34] <bstansberry> and param value is simple for simple types
[14:22:07] <maeste> bstansberry: I'll post on ML, just to remember, or are there any wiki page about CLI?
[14:22:10] <bstansberry> but if it's some complex structure paramvalue has to have the DMR syntax, e.g. =>
[14:22:35] <bstansberry> yeah, there are a couple in the JBoss AS7 space
[14:22:44] <bstansberry> written by aloubyansky
[14:23:13] <maeste> bstansberry: oki, I'll add somthing there
[14:23:20] <bstansberry> I don't know if there is a formal description of the DMR syntax anywhere
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[14:30:29] <bobmcw> what's the plan for HA type things?
[14:30:34] <bobmcw> used to be able to play with the HA barrier
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[14:46:26] <bstansberry> bobmcw: you'll need to ask pferraro
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[15:10:25] <pilhuhn> bstansberry another oddity in that area: ( as FYI ) http://fpaste.org/fJ1S/
[15:10:29] <tdiesler> bstansberry, ping
[15:11:26] <bstansberry> pilhuhn: thanks
[15:11:29] <bstansberry> tdiesler: pong
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[15:12:01] <tdiesler> bstansberry, I assume there is a way to list existing deployments. How would I find out what it is?
[15:12:48] <bstansberry> :read-children-names(child-type=deployment)
[15:13:09] <tdiesler> bstansberry, ok thanks
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[15:23:25] <smarlow> Nihility: do you want me to do the TS upgrade. the jira auto-assigned to you and since I'm not ready to try it yet, I didn't reassign to myself.
[15:23:55] <hbraun_> brb, grab some coffee
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[15:28:52] <asaldhan> does anybody know where the xsd for urn:jboss:domain:1.0 is? I am looking for <server><system-properties/></server>
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[15:30:09] <asaldhan> found it in jboss_7_0.xsd
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[15:40:11] <dmlloyd> good morning all
[15:40:30] <hbraun_> good morning
[15:44:01] <smarlow> good morning
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[15:48:01] <smarlow> Nihility: Not sure if you saw my message before. Do you want me to do the TS upgrade? The jira auto-assigned to you and since I'm not ready to try it yet, I didn't reassign to myself.
[15:49:50] <jpederse> hbraun_: Hey, I have verified trunk/ - we are good to go once maeste gives green light
[15:50:01] <hbraun_> yiha
[15:50:05] <hbraun_> that's good news
[15:50:13] <hbraun_> thanks for the point release
[15:50:21] <hbraun_> it really makes my life easier
[15:50:26] <jpederse> named snapshot - not official release
[15:50:30] <hbraun_> yes
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[15:54:29] <Jaikiran|brb> smarlow: rmaucher: got a minute?
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[15:54:49] <smarlow> Jaikiran: yes, sure
[15:54:54] <Jaikiran> about this https://github.com/rmaucher/jboss-as/commit/910de734e86793bcd62685e0cea2eaf9580b1fca
[15:54:54] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] 910de73.. Rémy Maucherat Add the JPA valve metadata.
[15:55:11] <Jaikiran> the web module is missing a dep on jpa in the module.xml (i'm seeing a CNFE on that valve)
[15:55:31] <Jaikiran> but the main question, is it OK to add that web/jpa hard dependency
[15:55:32] <Jaikiran> ?
[15:55:49] <adietisheim> ping bstansberry
[15:56:06] <bstansberry> adietisheim: pong
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[15:56:51] <Jaikiran> the CNFE http://pastebin.com/vM0p7NWc
[15:57:00] <adietisheim> bstansberry: hi brian! just a quick question: we would need so api to know about errors that occurred while starting the server ex. 8080 was already occupied.
[15:57:13] <adietisheim> bstansberry: is there any such feature planned or shall I open a jira?
[15:57:47] <bstansberry> adietisheim: max may have already done that; if not please go ahead
[15:57:59] <adietisheim> bstansberry: ok, great
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[16:01:28] <hbraun_> adietisheim: hang on
[16:01:36] <hbraun_> adietisheim: i've created a jira a while ago
[16:02:06] <hbraun_> adietisheim: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-762
[16:02:08] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-762] Provide an operation to request service status report after server has been started [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Brian Stansberry] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-762
[16:02:22] <rmaucher> Jaikiran, pfff, it's not a hard dependency at all, it uses another module loader to load the class
[16:02:50] <adietisheim> hbraun_: yeah, just found it :) perfect, that's exactly what we need, too
[16:02:50] <Jaikiran> rmaucher: no i meant, hard dependency between web and jpa subsystem
[16:02:56] <rmaucher> that's annoying because I had tested a version of the same thing with hardcoding, and it worked
[16:03:14] <Jaikiran> so jpa has to be present when using web subsystem.
[16:03:17] <hbraun_> adietisheim: great
[16:03:27] <smarlow> Jaikiran: are you seeing this with a test app?
[16:03:32] <Jaikiran> smarlow: in a tck one
[16:03:34] <hbraun_> adietisheim: if you have some ideas about the specific of such an operation it would help
[16:03:37] <rmaucher> Jaikiran, no that's not correct
[16:03:47] <hbraun_> adietisheim: just comment on the issue
[16:03:59] <adietisheim> hbraun_: ok, will do
[16:04:02] <hbraun_> adietisheim: i.e. possible return values
[16:05:25] <Jaikiran> ah i see, it's the other way round. jpa when enabled adds that valve
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[16:05:42] <Jaikiran> smarlow: i can point you to that tck test if you want to take a look
[16:06:05] <smarlow> Jaikiran: sure, thanks
[16:06:15] <rmaucher> Jaikiran, there: https://github.com/rmaucher/jboss-as/commit/910de734e86793bcd62685e0cea2eaf9580b1fca#diff-1
[16:06:15] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] 910de73.. Rémy Maucherat Add the JPA valve metadata.
[16:06:42] <rmaucher> and my earlier hardcoded test worked ... meh
[16:08:16] <rmaucher> so I'm testing again
[16:08:23] <Jaikiran> smarlow: btw, I guess this is a typo right https://github.com/rmaucher/jboss-as/blob/910de734e86793bcd62685e0cea2eaf9580b1fca/jpa/src/main/java/org/jboss/as/jpa/interceptor/WebNonTxEmCloserValve.java#L35
[16:08:38] <Jaikiran> i guess should have been non-transactional entity managers...
[16:08:56] <Jaikiran> ok, let me know if it works for you
[16:09:05] <Jaikiran> i'll try to create a sample app out of that tck test
[16:09:20] <rmaucher> I don't need a test app
[16:09:32] <smarlow> Jaikiran: I started one that I can point you to
[16:10:30] <smarlow> Jaikiran: I'll be offline for a bit, lenovo is here to try fixing my laptop
[16:10:40] <Jaikiran> sure, no hurry
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[16:12:49] <asoldano> mmoyses, ping
[16:13:13] <mmoyses> asoldano: hey
[16:13:16] <asoldano> mmoyses, hi :-)
[16:13:29] <asoldano> mmoyses, I've looked at that WebSecurityCERT sample
[16:13:38] <asoldano> mmoyses, for creating the security domain
[16:13:57] <asoldano> mmoyses, however, that still does not fit exactly what I'd need
[16:14:20] <dmison> hmmm, just logged AS7-836 and noticed that even though I've added "Dependencies: org.hiberate" to my apps META-INF/MANIFEST.MF it seems that org.slf4j doesn't get loaded even though it is a listed as a dependent module in modules/org/hibernate/main/module.xml. Getting a "java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.slf4j.LoggerFactory" when my app is invoked.
[16:14:21] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-836] non JPA app using hibernate doesn't cause org.hibernate classes to be loaded [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Jason Greene] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-836
[16:14:27] <asoldano> mmoyses, if possible, I'd prefer a solution for "deploying" a new security domain
[16:14:41] <asoldano> mmoyses, like what we could do on AS6 using a jboss-service.xml descriptor
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[16:15:18] <asoldano> mmoyses, to be honest, I have 2 separate usecases, and the second would be covered by this feature only
[16:16:05] <mmoyses> asoldano: adding secuirty domains in deployment units is in my to do list
[16:16:16] <asoldano> mmoyses, ah, good
[16:17:00] <asoldano> mmoyses, something like this: http://fpaste.org/nxbM/
[16:17:38] <rmaucher> Jaikiran: it works for me without any error if I add the valve metadata (the valve gets loaded from the JPA module, and instantiated just fine)
[16:17:42] <mmoyses> asoldano: yes, something like that
[16:18:10] <asoldano> mmoyses, is there a jira for that I could watch?
[16:18:30] <Jaikiran> rmaucher: let me rerun those tests and see what the problem is then
[16:18:35] <Jaikiran> will let you know
[16:18:55] <mmoyses> asoldano: not yet. i'll create one
[16:19:09] <asoldano> mmoyses, thanks
[16:20:41] <asoldano> mmoyses, for the original usecase of mine, instead, the problem is that the jbossws testsuite is not meant for using AS container specific invocations... I need to check if I can somehow add that security domain creation management use into the deployer itself that used by the testsuite
[16:20:54] <rmaucher> Jaikiran: ok
[16:21:09] <mmoyses> asoldano: i see
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[16:26:24] <mmoyses> asoldano: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-838
[16:26:25] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-838] Allow individual security domains to be deployed [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Marcus Moyses] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-838
[16:27:35] <asoldano> mmoyses, thanks, watching it :)
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[16:49:21] <wolfc> rmaucher: could not find artifact org.jboss.metadata:jboss-metadata-web:jar:7.0.0.beta2
[16:49:51] <rmaucher> it's "7.0.0.Beta2"
[16:50:32] <wolfc> ah yes, a rebase issue
[16:50:36] <wolfc> my bad
[16:51:07] <rmaucher> ok, but where does that version number comes from ?
[16:53:10] <wolfc> I have a commit which changes the next line on my branch
[16:53:22] <wolfc> it ran into a conflict, so I manually fiddled with bits :-)
[16:54:02] <rmaucher> ah ok
[16:54:25] <rmaucher> JF changed the case of the version tag for this release from beta1 -> Beta2
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[17:06:43] <dmlloyd> I need to teach jbossbot to stalk people
[17:07:00] <dmlloyd> if anyone sees sguilhen and notices me not noticing, could you give me a ping :)
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[17:10:27] <dmlloyd> hey sguilhen
[17:10:36] <sguilhen> dmlloyd: hey, didn't realize I wasn't logged
[17:10:57] <dmlloyd> so about the orb stuff
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[17:11:12] <dmlloyd> we were just chatting about the ability to choose between sun vs. jacorb
[17:11:17] <sguilhen> right
[17:11:39] <dmlloyd> the conclusion we came to is that instead of trying to come up with some generic config, the subsystem should just be "jacorb"
[17:11:57] <dmlloyd> we could later introduce a separate "sunorb" subsystem if we want to switch
[17:12:04] <dmlloyd> and common code could be factored out
[17:12:07] <sguilhen> I have to agree with that. We currently have some bits that depend on jacorb and it is not easy to replace them
[17:12:20] <dmlloyd> but this is consistent with how we do JMS, with a hornetq subsystem
[17:13:14] <sguilhen> should I rename the iiop subsystem to jacorb and adjust the config to reflect the jacorb-specific props?
[17:13:25] <dmlloyd> yeah that'd work fine
[17:15:09] <Jaikiran> dmlloyd: out of curiosity - so that "messaging" subsystem that i see currently isn't generic and is "hornetq" technically?
[17:15:21] <dmlloyd> yeah it will be renamed
[17:15:36] <sguilhen> ok! I think it is a good idea, I tried designing the subsystem for both orbs but we have code that depend on one of them and there isn't really much that is shared between the orbs, so going with jacorb only will make it clearer
[17:15:58] <dmlloyd> it may also make it easier to migrate later I think
[17:16:24] <sguilhen> yeah, I think so
[17:16:54] <bobmcw> dmlloyd: fwiw, we call our stuff torquebox-*, not ruby-*
[17:16:59] <bobmcw> and weld is weld, not cdi
[17:18:59] * dmlloyd nods
[17:19:45] <bobmcw> tomcat vs jetty?
[17:19:57] <dmlloyd> jbossweb is just "web"
[17:20:12] <dmlloyd> a hypothetical jetty would be "jetty" though
[17:23:44] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master ca68f54.. bstansberry at jboss dot com [AS7-431] Support unmanaged content on the domain...
[17:23:45] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-431] Deployment content management enhancement [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Carlo de Wolf] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-431
[17:23:45] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/49b2517...ca68f54
[17:27:21] <rmaucher> JF and I tried to come up with something better than "web" as a name for web, we had about 10 decent names, but they all got turned out by legal (most of which I don't even comprehend why)
[17:27:59] <rmaucher> so it's still web at the moment
[17:28:31] <dmlloyd> I hate naming things
[17:28:45] <dmlloyd> that's why my projects are mostly named for what they are
[17:29:05] <dmlloyd> if I was in marketing, I'd be the guy designing the white box with black letters saying "PRODUCT"
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[17:29:53] <rmaucher> yes, so we don't work in marketting :D
[17:29:54] <hbraun_> or software
[17:30:05] <hbraun_> hehe
[17:30:20] <hbraun_> rmaucher: yes, that's why they put him onto as7 instead
[17:30:24] <Nihility> rmaucher: well you can always name after yourself :)
[17:30:37] <rmaucher> ah :D
[17:31:13] <Nihility> would be funny if your name was trademarked though
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[17:31:49] <hbraun_> well there is remy martin
[17:32:11] <hbraun_> its cognac i believe
[17:32:19] <Nihility> awesome
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[17:32:45] <rmaucher> yes, cognac, that's how people understood my first name so well when I was in the USA
[17:32:47] <Nihility> manik brought me a nice bottle of cognac
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[17:33:44] <rmaucher> ask for armagnac next time, it's nicer imo :)
[17:35:07] <Nihility> actually now that i think about it, it was armagnac, which i had never had, it just tasted like a very good cognac
[17:35:15] <smarlow> Jaikiran: are you still getting the JPA/WEB valve failure?
[17:35:39] <Jaikiran> smarlow: haven't yet run those tests. will let you know if i run into those again.
[17:35:56] <Jaikiran> Remy tested that code locally with something else and that seemed to work fine
[17:36:07] <Jaikiran> so I'll see if this is something specific
[17:36:40] <rmaucher> I added the valve to the metadata unconditionally, and it got instantiated fine
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[17:37:03] <smarlow> Jaikiran: I started NonTransactionalEmTestCase, which would be a good place to reproduce the failure :)
[17:37:09] <rmaucher> (so my previous hardcoded testing wasn't wrong)
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[17:37:47] <Jaikiran> btw, is everyone adding these new tests to the testsuite2 or are we still adding them to the old testsuite/integration?
[17:37:54] <rmaucher> the way it works is that it gets the classloader from the specified module (org.jboss.as.jpa in this case), then loads the valve class
[17:38:10] <Nihility> manik's wife used to write review for a cocktail magazine, so they always got all kinds of stuff sent to them for free
[17:38:12] <rmaucher> and it works for me
[17:38:23] <rmaucher> nice, cocktails ;)
[17:38:37] <Jaikiran> yeah, looked at that code and i don't see anything wrong with it and don't see any obvious reason why it should throw a CNFE
[17:39:53] <rmaucher> it fails to load the class from the module, I think :D
[17:41:05] <Jaikiran> it shouldn't have shown org.jboss.as.web as the module from where it was trying to load. so something odd there
[17:41:40] <Jaikiran> time for dinner!
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[17:43:21] <rmaucher> right, that's probably the main issue: if the module is null, it defaults to the org.jboss.as.web module (because many valves are located there)
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[17:59:41] <hbraun> what happened to the boot time?
[17:59:43] <hbraun> [Server:server-two] 18:00:54,864 INFO [org.jboss.as] (MSC service thread 1-1) JBoss AS 7.0.0.Beta4-SNAPSHOT "(TBD)" started in 6945ms
[17:59:49] <hbraun> 7 sec?
[18:00:05] <hbraun> i think it used to be 4 on my machine
[18:00:08] <dmlloyd> you're probably compiling something in the background!
[18:00:35] <hbraun> don't you see the increase as well?
[18:00:50] <dmlloyd> seemed ok on my last try, yesterday I think
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[18:02:33] <pgier> dmlloyd: did you have a chance to look at my build changes from yesterday?
[18:02:52] <pgier> just let me know if you want me to rebase them or anything
[18:04:20] <dmlloyd> I glanced them over but I haven't had a chance to merge
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[18:08:35] <dmlloyd> I'll do the merge at the same time as stuart's
[18:09:33] <jamezp> dmlloyd: For the logging stuff, do both arquillian and arquillian2 need to be done?
[18:10:03] <dmlloyd> no, you can skip both for now
[18:10:21] <jamezp> Perfect, thanks.
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[18:12:17] <jpederse> jamezp: did you "port" your document to a wiki page ?
[18:12:35] <jamezp> jperderse: I haven't, but I'm getting ready to start working on it.
[18:13:13] <jpederse> jamezp: ok, documentation == more people working in parallel :)
[18:13:57] <jamezp> jperdese: Yes, I really need to just get it done or at least started :-)
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[18:17:02] <asaldhan> kkhan: hey able to merge my stuff?
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[18:17:29] <kkhan> asaldhan: In the middle of something, will try to get round to it later
[18:17:40] <asaldhan> kkhan: ok
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[18:21:04] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 0d48a36.. Stuart Douglas Add JSF Managed Bean injection
[18:21:05] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master fafe6e4.. Stuart Douglas fix OperationException toString
[18:21:05] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 3d95186.. Stuart Douglas First attempt at beanName support for CDI @EJB support
[18:21:05] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 6f1b992.. Stuart Douglas Change the way @Ejb injection is performed
[18:21:05] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 3ccd5c0.. Stuart Douglas Change the phase that component aggregation is run in
[18:21:05] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master bcd8fa3.. Stuart Douglas Minor refactoring
[18:21:06] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 0f8b054.. Stuart Douglas Add a global modules facility to specify modules that should be added to all deployments
[18:21:06] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master dcaffe6.. Paul Gier [AS7-828] Update POMs to use maven plugin versions inherited from jboss-parent...
[18:21:06] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-828] Update poms to use plugin versions from jboss-parent [Resolved (Done) Task, Major, Paul Gier] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-828
[18:21:07] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/ca68f54...dcaffe6
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[18:23:18] <dmlloyd> I'm consistently starting in 3000ms
[18:23:24] <dmlloyd> hbraun: ^^
[18:23:29] <hbraun> hm
[18:24:27] <hbraun> yes, maybe it wa just my machine under load
[18:24:47] <hbraun> i am at ~5 sec
[18:24:54] <hbraun> np
[18:25:24] <hbraun> although, in times like this you can consider 5sec already a performance problem
[18:25:26] <hbraun> ;)
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[18:28:28] <dmlloyd> yeah I do
[18:28:29] <dmlloyd> oh
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[18:41:11] <bstans_call> note that hbraun's 7 secs above was a domain mode server
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[18:41:35] <dmlloyd> oh, I didn't notice that
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[19:22:55] <Jaikiran|Dinner> dmlloyd: fyi https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/commit/0d48a36e0cb3fe8dcd0a0cff020bdd5b07ee5ea1#commitcomment-389121
[19:22:56] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] 0d48a36.. Stuart Douglas Add JSF Managed Bean injection
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[19:23:08] <Jaikiran> I'll talk to stuart too when he's online tomorrow
[19:24:47] <dmlloyd> okay I'll talk to him when he gets on
[19:25:00] <dmlloyd> maybe he'll have it fixed by the time you're up :)
[19:25:07] <Jaikiran> yeah :)
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[19:38:56] <ALR1> Nihility: FYI more SW firefighting came up.
[19:39:02] <ALR1> Blocking ARQ. We're on that now.
[19:39:13] <alesj> ALR1: ping?
[19:39:28] <ALR1> alesj: Yah
[19:40:03] <alesj> too late, already got carlo ;-)
[19:40:19] <ALR1> 15-second SLA. And too late.
[19:40:20] <ALR1> Wow.
[19:41:21] <alesj> yup, it should be 10sec or less ;-)
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[19:48:45] <bbrowning> Nihility: We've found workarounds in TorqueBox for AS7-779 and AS7-810 that will work until they get fixed upstream. I was just going to assign them to myself and work on implementation once things settle down a bit but don't have that option. Should I just leave a comment on them instead?
[19:48:46] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-779] AS should allow deploying a non-jar deployment descriptor [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Jason Greene] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-779
[19:48:47] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-810] Change DeploymentRootMountProcessor To Use Marker to Determine Whether to Mount Exploded [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Jason Greene] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-810
[19:49:09] <bbrowning> Or, can we make it so I can assign AS7 bugs to myself? :D
[19:49:22] <dmlloyd> there's some CLA thing you have to do
[19:49:31] <dmlloyd> all employees should have gone through it
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[19:49:55] <bbrowning> the CLA is what enables the assign to myself button?
[19:50:26] <dmlloyd> yeah it puts you in the right jira group
[19:50:31] <dmlloyd> dunno try emailing help at jboss dot org
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[19:58:42] <smarlow> dmlloyd, Nihility: quick question about the Infinispan GenericJBossMarshaller and JBoss marshalling. GenericJBossMarshaller is currently assuming that marshaller factories are packaged in the Marshalling module. But, we aren't currently doing that. Should we change the as7 org.jjboss.marshalling module to include org.jboss.marshalling.river? Or does Infinispan need to change?
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[20:03:42] <smarlow> dmlloyd: the Infinispan code in question (or not) is at https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/blob/master/core/src/main/java/org/infinispan/marshall/jboss/GenericJBossMarshaller.java#L76
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[20:03:46] <Nihility> smarlow: our module files should be that way yes, but it shouldnt matter because the clusteirng code replaces the marshaller anyway
[20:04:09] <Nihility> pferraro: ping
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[20:08:24] <pferraro> Nihility: yeS?
[20:09:12] <pferraro> Nihility: I dropped the custom marshaller code after upgrading to infinispan5 which included you classloading changes
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[20:09:57] <pferraro> s/you/your
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[20:11:08] <dmlloyd> smarlow: yeah the org.jboss.marshalling module.xml file should include a dependency: <module name="org.jboss.marshalling.river" services="import"/>
[20:11:34] <Nihility> pferraro: ah ok that explains it then
[20:11:40] <Nihility> pferraro: i never fixed AS :)
[20:12:43] <smarlow> dmlloyd, Nihility, pferraro: I'll try adding the river dependency. thanks
[20:19:21] <jc3> pferraro: is there an equivalent to (or will there be) a CacheContainerRegistry in AS7?
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[20:21:05] <pferraro> jc3: yes, the ServiceRegistry ...
[20:21:42] <pferraro> jc3: all cache containers listed in the infinispan subsystem are exposed as services
[20:21:48] <jc3> pferraro: so i can still obtain the 'web' cache container from it?
[20:22:12] <pferraro> jc3: yep, using the appropriate service name
[20:23:10] <pferraro> jc3: ServiceName.JBOSS.append("infinispan", "web")
[20:23:57] <jc3> pferraro: cool. thanks much! i'm going to assume bobmcw knows what to do with a ServiceName. :)
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[20:35:30] <smarlow> dmlloyd, Nihility, pferraro: https://github.com/scottmarlow/jboss-as/commit/f6e5fedf610bdd37414da0d766d29c5eb4aabb6d (adds the river dependency) helped get past the deployment issues
[20:35:31] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] f6e5fed.. Scott Marlow Infinispan GenericJBossMarshaller needs access to module org.jboss.marshalling.river via module org.jboss.marshalling
[20:35:57] <smarlow> could someone please merge ^ in.
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[20:38:14] <dmlloyd> yeah I got it
[20:38:42] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master ac8036c.. Scott Marlow Infinispan GenericJBossMarshaller needs access to module org.jboss.marshalling.river via module org.jboss.marshalling
[20:38:42] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/dcaffe6...ac8036c
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[20:45:59] <bstansberry> dmlloyd: https://github.com/bstansberry/jboss-as/commit/f5a2d7121d603e31c9d86d4dbf5d35141740a1ea
[20:45:59] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] f5a2d71.. bstansberry at jboss dot com New version of ModelControllerClient that tries to keep breakage to a min
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[20:51:47] <jamezp> Is there any one module that all modules are dependent on?
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[20:54:45] <baileyje> dmlloyd: You have time to look over: https://github.com/baileyje/jboss-as/commit/cc519566aeb575cfd0acef5844808d41a106edae
[20:54:50] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] cc51956.. John E. Bailey [AS-771] - Add additional operations to support updating logging configuration
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[20:54:54] <stansilvert> bstansberry: What are the rules for deployment name and runtime name? Are they required to have an extension like .war or .ear?
[20:55:12] <bstansberry> deployment name can be anything
[20:56:07] <bstansberry> runtime name is what the deployers see the deployment as, so it has the same kind of rules that an archive in an AS6 deploy/ dir would have
[20:57:30] <bstansberry> BTW, the runtime-name property is optional in the mgmt ops; if the user doesn't provide a runtime-name, the deployment name is used
[20:57:47] <bstansberry> which makes sense for the typical case where foo.war is foo.war
[20:58:16] <stansilvert> Right. But I'm giving the option to change either when they upload a deployment from the console.
[20:58:35] <bstansberry> makes sense
[20:58:41] <stansilvert> If I use "foo" for deployment name and "foo.war" for runtime name it doesn't work.
[20:59:00] <bstansberry> that's a bug
[20:59:04] <stansilvert> It will deploy the "foo" web context but I get a 404.
[20:59:14] <dmlloyd> the web deployers must be reading the wrong property
[20:59:47] <bstansberry> or the deployment operation handler
[21:00:34] <stansilvert> OK. I'll open a jira and assign to Remy?
[21:00:46] <bstansberry> 1 sec
[21:03:55] <bstansberry> stansilvert: yes, a JIRA for Remy is good. a quick scan of the operation handler showed it passing the runtime name into the deployers
[21:04:14] <stansilvert> k. Thanks.
[21:07:22] <rmaucher> I'll likely never fix it though :)
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[21:11:51] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 8e99352.. asoldano [AS7-776] Adding an endpoint service with dependency upon security domain context service for the deployment; adding JBossWS SPI SecurityDomainContext implementation and restoring SecurityAdaptor integration...
[21:11:55] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-776] Restore webservice-security integration [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Alessio Soldano] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-776
[21:11:55] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/ac8036c...8e99352
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[21:22:14] <nickarls> where to start looking for problems on a deployment if there is only "undefined" in the .failed file?
[21:23:09] <nickarls> http://pastebin.com/PBWP4hnQ in the stack trace
[21:23:26] <nickarls> this on upstream master ~20min ago. works on an AS6
[21:25:16] <dmlloyd> nickarls, could be a bug in the EJB DD processor. What session-type did you specify in your EJB descriptor?
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[21:27:10] <nickarls> dmlloyd: this is my ejb-jar.xml: http://pastebin.com/9PQt32A5 (well, the maven filters the property to a real value)
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[21:29:50] <jpederse> nickarls: does <session-type>Stateless</session-type> help ?
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[21:32:00] <dmlloyd> nickarls: do you know offhand what the default should be?
[21:32:07] <dmlloyd> presumably stateless
[21:32:25] <dmlloyd> it should be a really simple fix
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[21:34:37] <nickarls> indeed. the session-type Stateless worked
[21:35:12] <dmlloyd> I'll post a patch to Jaikiran
[21:35:32] <nickarls> now I get a CNFE for yoda-time and get a flashback of seeing it before
[21:35:47] <nickarls> seam 3 module that has an optional dep that's not that optional
[21:35:56] <nickarls> stuartdouglas mentioned it
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[21:40:25] <dmlloyd> I put a pull request out there, it'll be fixed sometime soon
[21:40:36] <dmlloyd> it's in an external project so it takes a little while to filter back in
[21:41:02] <dmlloyd> thanks for the report
[21:41:51] <nickarls> np, just trying to get the AS to a point I can start using it for development
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[21:46:55] <nickarls> anyone recall if the issues was supposed to be solved? I think it was the Seam 3 international module that had some concept of "optional module" for yoda time but it became a hard dep -> CNFE
[21:47:04] <nickarls> not sure if it was reported in modules or as
[21:47:08] <dmlloyd> joda time you mean?
[21:47:24] <dmlloyd> we don't ship that
[21:47:29] <nickarls> yep
[21:47:29] <dmlloyd> otoh we don't ship seam either :)
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[21:58:00] <nickarls> any web services wizards present? Next deployment error is http://pastebin.com/fA2k9Cx2
[21:58:34] <nickarls> and that one looks scary ;-)
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[22:02:32] <jpederse> nickarls: catch Alessio tomorrow :)
[22:02:43] <dmlloyd> that word wrapping is really annoying!
[22:03:06] <dmlloyd> actually this is a stuartdouglas problem
[22:03:15] <dmlloyd> broken proxy class
[22:10:16] <nickarls> BTW, when I'm preparing for AS6->AS7 migration, what is the equivalence of cloning standard to "test" and "production" and starting them with -c and different portsets? different domains in as7?
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[22:35:21] <Nihility> nickarls: if you are using standalone you can have multiple config files and do -server-config file.xml
[22:35:37] <Nihility> nickarls: if you are using domain you have different port offsets for different server groups
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[22:35:54] <Nihility> nickarls: or even different port configs entirely
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[22:37:16] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master cd1a658.. Anil Saldhana AS7-831: domain model to hold the security properties...
[22:37:17] <Nihility> nickarls: last we have some advanced facilities for interface discovery
[22:37:17] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-831] Domain model to hold security properties [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Anil Saldhana] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-831
[22:37:18] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/8e99352...cd1a658
[22:37:38] <Nihility> nickarls: that can be used to "find" an interface in test and prod
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[22:45:46] <ALR1> dmlloyd: /ghost isn't a command? I need to steal back ALR
[22:46:11] <Nihility> /msg nickserv ghost ALR
[22:46:15] <dmlloyd> /msg NickServ ghost ALR
[22:46:19] <ALR1> Ah got it
[22:46:20] <ALR1> Thanks
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[22:46:23] <dmlloyd> then you have to recover too, probably
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[22:46:28] <dmlloyd> or not ;)
[22:46:33] <ALR> YAY!
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[22:50:50] <jamezp> dmlloyd: I'm going throw the CLI module to convert to the logging/messages. Do want to convert this module?
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[22:51:59] <dmlloyd> not particularly ;)
[22:52:18] <dmlloyd> you may want to finish the subsystems first
[22:52:32] <jamezp> Haha. Will do.
[22:52:41] <jamezp> One more question.
[22:53:07] <jamezp> Do we want one MessageBundle and one MessageLogger per module or per package?
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[23:05:08] <jamezp> dmlloyd: Should I change things like e.printStackTrace(System.err); to use the logger instead?
[23:05:18] <stuartdouglas> mornings
[23:06:43] <dmlloyd> jamezp: yeah
[23:06:51] <dmlloyd> on the change
[23:07:04] <dmlloyd> stuartdouglas: got two things for you...
[23:07:07] <jamezp> Perfect, thanks.
[23:07:35] <stuartdouglas> The VerifyError and the JSF config files?
[23:07:41] <dmlloyd> for per-module vs. per-package.... per-module I guess. we can revisit later if we want to make them non public
[23:07:45] <dmlloyd> stuartdouglas: yes :)
[23:09:34] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: ping
[23:15:27] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 19c1d16.. Richard Opalka [AS7-697][AS7-698] refactoring WS endpoint runtime metadata & metrics
[23:15:28] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-697] Add operation handler to list all deployed webservice endpoints [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Richard Opalka] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-697
[23:15:29] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-698] Add operation to query ws endpoints metrics [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Richard Opalka] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-698
[23:15:29] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 139b55b.. bstansberry at jboss dot com [AS7-697] Update the test domain.xml to match latest ws subsystem config
[23:15:29] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/cd1a658...139b55b
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[23:32:54] <jamezp> Does anyone know how to get IDEA to stop reordering imports? I can't seem to find any settings for that.
[23:36:25] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 655e309.. bstansberry at jboss dot com Remove unnecessary class
[23:36:25] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/139b55b...655e309
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[23:46:02] <dmlloyd> jamezp: settings -> editor -> auto import -> uncheck optimize imports on the fly?
[23:47:17] <jamezp> dmlloyd: Thanks, I never would have looked there.
[23:47:57] <dmlloyd> yeah import stuff is in a couple places
[23:47:59] <dmlloyd> pretty lame imo
[23:48:47] <jamezp> Yeah, was looking on Code Style -> Imports.
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