May 3, 2011 
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[00:01:57] *** maxandersen has joined #jboss-as7[00:01:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v maxandersen[00:03:38] <dmlloyd> stuartdouglas: so I guess the top priority is, get the ejb branch working with weld.[00:03:49] <dmlloyd> once my head is screwed back on I'll try to get everything back under control[00:09:57] <stuartdouglas> ok, I will look at that today[00:12:13] *** bstansberry has joined #jboss-as7[00:12:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v bstansberry[00:18:19] *** bstansberry has quit IRC[00:30:43] *** bgeorges has quit IRC[00:36:58] *** bgeorges has joined #jboss-as7[00:41:56] *** bgeorges has quit IRC[00:45:35] *** miclorb_ has joined #jboss-as7[01:01:52] <stuartdouglas> I have a questions about the new ee stuff[01:02:21] <stuartdouglas> In EEModuleConfiguration the component configurations are stored by class name[01:02:42] <stuartdouglas> but won't it be possible to have multiple configurations for the same class due to deployment descriptors?[01:05:47] <stuartdouglas> actually, 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Jim Ma [AS7-697]:Add operation handler to list all deployed webservice endpoints[12:50:07] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-697] Add operation handler to list all deployed webservice endpoints [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Jim Ma] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-697[12:50:07] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master c775c37.. Jim Ma [AS7-698]:Add operation to query ws endpoints metrics[12:50:08] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-698] Add operation to query ws endpoints metrics [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Jim Ma] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-698[12:50:08] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master URL: http://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/compare/2889161...c775c37[12:52:15] *** JimMa has quit IRC[13:01:31] *** smarlow has joined #jboss-as7[13:01:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v smarlow[13:09:03] *** stansilvert has joined #jboss-as7[13:25:20] *** magesh1 has joined #jboss-as7[13:27:03] *** magesh has quit IRC[13:27:05] *** ccrouch has joined #jboss-as7[13:27:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ccrouch[13:28:35] *** pilhuhn is now known as pil-afk[13:30:10] *** magesh1 has quit IRC[13:30:59] *** magesh has joined #jboss-as7[13:41:02] *** stansilvert has quit IRC[13:42:08] *** bstansberry has joined #jboss-as7[13:42:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v bstansberry[13:51:51] *** lgao has quit IRC[13:52:48] *** miclorb_ has joined #jboss-as7[13:56:02] <adietisheim> ping bstansberry[14:00:11] *** sgilda has joined #jboss-as7[14:01:25] *** galderz has joined #jboss-as7[14:01:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v galderz[14:03:12] *** pferraro has joined #jboss-as7[14:03:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v pferraro[14:03:29] *** pferraro has left #jboss-as7[14:16:06] *** baileyje has joined #jboss-as7[14:16:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v baileyje[14:17:17] *** mmoyses has joined #jboss-as7[14:17:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v mmoyses[14:18:31] *** bstansberry has quit IRC[14:21:09] *** magesh has left #jboss-as7[14:25:26] *** miclorb_ has quit IRC[14:32:21] *** magesh has joined #jboss-as7[14:40:40] <hbraun> adietisheim: he#s at JBW[14:41:05] <hbraun> adietisheim: try emuckenhuber instead[14:45:15] <adietisheim> hbraun: thanks :) actually asked emanuel which sits right next to me this week[14:45:36] <hbraun> adietisheim: ;)[14:45:47] <hbraun> adietisheim: you are doing the ecplipse stuff, right?[14:45:55] <adietisheim> hbraun: yup, exactly[14:46:03] <adietisheim> hbraun: helping rob for the moment[14:46:31] <hbraun> adietisheim: would be a great help for us (console) if you could post some screenshots somewhere[14:46:35] <adietisheim> hbraun: and you're the one who does the admin interface, right?[14:46:46] <hbraun> adietisheim: right[14:47:13] <hbraun> adietisheim: max did mention that there is deployment support and server start/stop in trunk[14:47:14] <adietisheim> hbraun: ok, can do that. there's actually no big difference from what is available for as6[14:47:30] <hbraun> adietisheim: ah, in that case I can look at it[14:47:44] <adietisheim> hbraun: yep it is :) we actually do only support local as7 for m1[14:48:04] <hbraun> adietisheim: i see[14:48:34] <adietisheim> hbraun: doing deployment with file copy for the moment. the only part where I actually use the management api is for stopping the server. but my service would support deployment etc.[14:49:30] <adietisheim> hbraun: would you need remote server support?[14:49:44] <hbraun> adietisheim: what do you mean?[14:49:53] <hbraun> the java code?[14:50:35] <adietisheim> hbraun: was just guessing the eclipse facilities would be helpflull to you since you said that you would check it out[14:50:57] <adietisheim> hbraun: not the code, you know a lot more that we know ;)[14:51:30] <hbraun> adietisheim: no, i am interested in keeping the ui concepts similar[14:51:40] <adietisheim> hbraun: ah ok[14:51:48] <hbraun> wondering how you solved the domain deployment for instance[14:51:56] <adietisheim> hbraun: well, but the ui concept we have are actually pretty much dictated by eclipse wtp[14:52:02] <hbraun> or the transition between enabled/disabled deployments[14:52:08] <adietisheim> hbraun: oh, we actually did nothing with domain so far[14:52:34] <hbraun> adietisheim: np, i get back to this once you have build something for the domain use cases[14:52:41] <hbraun> adietisheim: but thanks for the info[14:53:01] <adietisheim> hbraun: yeah, I guess exchanging ideas would be pretty helpful to us, too[14:53:13] <hbraun> adietisheim: anytime you want[14:53:21] <adietisheim> hbraun: great! :)[14:53:25] <hbraun> either drop email to the list or ping me here[14:54:19] *** frainone has joined #jboss-as7[14:54:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v frainone[14:57:31] *** baileyje has quit IRC[14:57:53] *** adietisheim has quit IRC[14:58:13] *** baileyje has joined #jboss-as7[14:58:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v baileyje[14:59:16] *** baileyje has quit IRC[15:06:36] *** magesh has left #jboss-as7[15:08:12] *** smarlow has quit IRC[15:10:09] *** galderz has quit IRC[15:20:43] <AndyTaylor> maeste: ping[15:30:13] *** bstansberry has joined #jboss-as7[15:30:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v bstansberry[15:32:58] *** galderz has joined #jboss-as7[15:33:00] *** galderz has quit IRC[15:33:00] *** galderz has joined #jboss-as7[15:33:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v galderz[15:36:53] *** Jaikiran has joined #jboss-as7[15:36:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Jaikiran[15:38:47] <maeste> AndyTaylor: pong[15:39:39] *** pil-afk has quit IRC[15:39:51] *** lazarotti has joined #jboss-as7[15:42:16] *** pil-afk has joined #jboss-as7[15:48:58] *** emuckenhuber has quit IRC[15:51:39] *** asoldano has joined #jboss-as7[15:51:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v asoldano[15:54:18] *** emuckenhuber has joined #jboss-as7[15:54:18] *** emuckenhuber has joined #jboss-as7[15:54:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v emuckenhuber[15:55:25] *** sannegrinovero has joined #jboss-as7[15:55:25] *** sannegrinovero has quit IRC[15:55:25] *** sannegrinovero has joined #jboss-as7[15:55:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sannegrinovero[15:56:27] *** pgier has joined #jboss-as7[15:56:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v pgier[15:57:49] <bstansberry> emuckenhuber, kkhan, darranl: I pushed some changes to DomainStartUtil that should make it reliable for starting a domain for tests[15:58:16] <bstansberry> i.e. it's start method won't return until all servers are started (or timeout)[15:58:32] *** fnasser has joined #jboss-as7[15:59:07] <kkhan> bstansberry: Great, I took a vague look earlier[15:59:36] <kkhan> How's JUDCon/JBW?[15:59:38] <bstansberry> that class in in an arquillian2-container-managed-domain it's not necessary that the test be arquillian based[15:59:59] <bstansberry> good; listening to Mircea's Infinispan presentation now[16:00:47] <kkhan> Yeah, I didn't really know where to put it at the time. It has no dependencies on arquillian, it is meant to be used by the arq container impl once that is created[16:00:58] <bstansberry> sure, that was a good spot[16:01:40] <bstansberry> just didn't want the other guys to think arquillian was required, and back off writing tests until all the arquillianish issues are sorted[16:03:41] *** maxandersen has joined #jboss-as7[16:03:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v maxandersen[16:04:15] <kkhan> Maybe it should be moved into host-controller or domain-controller?[16:07:13] <bstansberry> kkhan: will that cause classpath-ish issues for some test scenarios?[16:07:30] <bstansberry> i.e. where the goal is the client has no view of internal classes[16:08:37] <bstansberry> I'm not sure what the rules are for the arquillian modules. if they depend e.g. on domain-controller but don't export, then that dependency shouldn't pollute the test client[16:09:07] <emuckenhuber> hmm but this domain starter util isn't really used in a testcase or something like that yet?[16:09:14] <emuckenhuber> just wondering[16:09:16] <kkhan> Hmmm, yeah it will pull in those classes - so I guess it could be abused[16:09:44] <kkhan> Controller client might be a better place for it[16:09:52] <kkhan> emuckenhuber: Not yet[16:09:53] *** sannegrinovero has quit IRC[16:09:57] <kkhan> But it will be[16:10:53] <bstansberry> kkhan: controller-client I want to be extremely careful, because that's my forever and then another million years commitment[16:11:50] <bstansberry> e.g. the command line to start a domain is not a committed forever API[16:12:07] *** galderz has quit IRC[16:12:29] <kkhan> bstansberry: True. At the same time creating a new maven artifact for just that class feels like (but might not be a problem) overkill[16:13:18] *** galderz has joined #jboss-as7[16:13:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v galderz[16:13:26] <bstansberry> yeah. I guess it depends on whether we're going to fill out that module with an actual arquillian container[16:15:26] <kkhan> I think we should and will[16:15:41] *** maxandersen1 has joined #jboss-as7[16:16:40] <bstansberry> yeah, agreed. We badly need tests, so I don't want writing those to block on waiting for that container, but that doesn't mean I don't want the container[16:16:46] *** maxandersen has quit IRC[16:17:53] <bstansberry> partly I say that because a lot of what we need to test isn't really the behavior of a deployment inside the server[16:20:16] *** opalka has quit IRC[16:21:29] * bstansberry shifts rooms[16:21:31] *** bstansberry has quit IRC[16:22:27] <hbraun> translating the UI to german makes my brain hurt1[16:22:41] <hbraun> some things are just so weeird if you translate them[16:22:50] <hbraun> (shivering)[16:23:25] <emuckenhuber> :)[16:23:39] <emuckenhuber> that's why i think localized logging is just a waste of time hehe[16:24:07] <hbraun> emuckenhuber: you can do the austrian dialect[16:24:33] <hbraun> emuckenhuber: how do call a datasource in your home country?[16:25:19] <hbraun> emuckenhuber: see, it takes you more then 5 minutes to fugure it out[16:25:24] <hbraun> figure it[16:25:34] <emuckenhuber> yeah, i have no idea - trying to make something up ;)[16:26:49] <emuckenhuber> usually it's way more confusing having that translated anyway... and mostly just sounds wrong[16:27:05] <hbraun> yeah, it#s a fine line[16:27:20] *** aloubyansky has joined #jboss-as7[16:27:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v aloubyansky[16:27:25] <emuckenhuber> i'm still looking for a proper translation of interceptor ;)[16:27:28] *** lazarotti has quit IRC[16:29:20] <hbraun> abfangjäger?[16:29:42] <hbraun> more like "Fänger"[16:30:13] *** hbraun has left #jboss-as7[16:30:41] *** hbraun has joined #jboss-as7[16:33:20] *** bstansberry has joined #jboss-as7[16:33:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v bstansberry[16:33:49] *** jdcasey has joined #jboss-as7[16:39:02] *** Nihility has joined #jboss-as7[16:39:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Nihility[16:39:05] <Nihility> sup![16:39:09] <Nihility> thought i would say hi[16:39:11] <Nihility> :)[16:39:34] <maxandersen1> hi ;)[16:39:44] *** maxandersen1 is now known as maxandersen[16:39:45] *** maxandersen has joined #jboss-as7[16:39:55] <hbraun> hi[16:41:30] <Nihility> unfortunately i have 13 mins of battery time![16:42:10] <hbraun> Nihility: try disabling the monitor, it helps[16:42:19] <Nihility> hbraun: ROFL[16:42:49] <hbraun> Nihility: actually i was going to say: have beer for me tonight as well[16:43:02] <hbraun> Nihility: a pitty that I couldn't come[16:43:24] <Nihility> yeah sucks[16:43:28] <Nihility> you should be here![16:43:38] <hbraun> Nihility: next time[16:43:43] <Nihility> just hop on a plan[16:43:43] <dmlloyd> and one for me![16:43:44] <Nihility> e[16:43:45] <Nihility> :)[16:44:03] <Nihility> theres a judcon in oct[16:44:07] <Nihility> in europe[16:44:11] <bstansberry> hi Nihiility![16:44:11] <Nihility> maybe then :)[16:44:18] <Nihility> bstansberry: hi![16:44:19] <hbraun> yeah, but as usual you guys don't show up[16:44:30] <hbraun> Nihility: i get to see max again[16:44:37] <hbraun> Nihility: how boring[16:44:41] <bstansberry> max is everywhere[16:44:47] <hbraun> Nihility: and the french guys[16:44:57] <bstansberry> we say david has clones, seems max does too![16:45:00] <Nihility> hbraun: dude, you are way too funny to be an engineer[16:45:02] <hbraun> Nihility: their accent drives me crazy[16:45:48] <Nihility> im going to ask mark if we can do judcon bahamas[16:46:03] <Nihility> or judcon hawaii[16:46:11] <Nihility> im sure that will go over well![16:46:15] <hbraun> Nihility: when AS/ goes Final we should all meet and have a party[16:46:21] <bstansberry> +10[16:46:27] <asoldano> :)[16:46:42] <Nihility> yes a huge party[16:46:51] <hbraun> Nihility: +100[16:49:07] *** mmoyses has quit IRC[16:49:24] <maxandersen> Nihility: bahamas or hawaii i'm definitely +1 on; needs counterweight my boringness![16:50:00] <hbraun> maxandersen: oh, we were just talking about the AS7 team[16:50:16] <maxandersen> hbraun: hey I contributed code to AS7 :)[16:50:25] <Nihility> ROFL[16:50:35] <Nihility> hbraun: you should have seen maxandersen's lightning talk[16:50:54] <bstansberry> it was better than mine![16:50:54] <maxandersen> "lightning"'ly finger fail[16:51:07] <maxandersen> but I did shout out in the room "AS 7 Rocks!"[16:51:16] <hbraun> maxandersen: ;)[16:51:57] <maxandersen> not sure how long it actually took but I think I had 2 eclipse restarts and 3 AS 7 starts + 2 deployments in about 5 minutes...[16:52:20] *** jfclere has quit IRC[16:52:32] <Nihility> right yeah that was the funny thing[16:52:41] <Nihility> the constant cycling you were doing[16:52:44] <maxandersen> which should just have been 1 AS 7 starts and 2 deployment ;)[16:52:48] <Nihility> was actually showing how fast it is[16:52:54] <hbraun> hehe[16:52:55] <Nihility> since you only spent like less than a minute[16:53:06] <Nihility> to demo deploying and starting[16:53:17] <maxandersen> yes[16:53:48] <maxandersen> btw. one of the things I need to look into is why the actual deployment of my apps on AS7 beta3 is *soo* darn fast on compared AS "oldies"[16:54:02] <maxandersen> would have thought the hibernate init time would still show up[16:54:08] *** smarlow has joined #jboss-as7[16:54:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v smarlow[16:54:12] <dmlloyd> class loading counts for a lot[16:54:19] <dmlloyd> smarter annotation scanning, a more sane deployment chain[16:54:20] <maxandersen> but might just be a psychological foobar[16:54:21] <dmlloyd> concurrency[16:54:25] <Nihility> we deploy parellel[16:54:27] <Nihility> that might help[16:54:34] <Nihility> if you are doing more than one at the same time[16:54:41] <maxandersen> Nihility: but 1 war is just sequential ainit it ?[16:54:55] <Nihility> sort of[16:54:58] <Nihility> if you have like jpa in it[16:55:06] <Nihility> the jpa and servlets deploy in parallel[16:55:09] <dmlloyd> everything in the war is started in parallel too[16:55:30] <Nihility> but to be honest i have observed some numbers in deployment that make me think we need to do some profiling[16:55:34] <maxandersen> dmlloyd: class loading is about 30% of hibernate startup so if you magically fix that + hibernate JPA entitymanager now uses the jaindex that could be a good example.[16:55:42] *** Nihility has quit IRC[16:55:52] <dmlloyd> there goes the battery I guess :)[16:55:55] <maxandersen> good reason I mean.[16:55:59] <maxandersen> or the wifi[16:57:31] *** darranl is now known as darranl_afk[16:58:13] <bstansberry> time for a lightning vote![16:58:59] <bstansberry> remove the xsi:schema-location attributes from our config files[16:59:19] * bstansberry votes yes; they don't do much and make our files big and scary[17:01:46] *** mmoyses has joined #jboss-as7[17:01:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v mmoyses[17:02:08] <bstansberry> Nihility seconded the motion; motiion passes[17:03:21] <hbraun> bstansberry: I have another vote: should the JDBC driver version go?[17:04:00] <maxandersen> bstansberry: how does editors pickup the xsd to validate against?[17:04:35] <bstansberry> aww, maxandersen comes in late with a veto[17:04:54] <hbraun> i told you he shouldn't be incited[17:04:57] <hbraun> invited[17:05:06] <bstansberry> maeste: see hbraun question ^^^[17:05:12] <maxandersen> bstansberry: wasn't a veto but more a query for what is left in the file to pickup validation.[17:05:22] <bstansberry> maxandersen: nada[17:05:30] * dmlloyd vote yes[17:05:35] <dmlloyd> kill kill kill it[17:05:41] <bstansberry> i was kidding about the veto[17:05:42] <dmlloyd> to xsi:schema-location[17:05:46] <dmlloyd> remove[17:05:48] <dmlloyd> as in[17:05:57] <dmlloyd> make it go in an exiting direction[17:06:11] <bstansberry> rofl[17:06:11] <hbraun> dmlloyd: rofl[17:06:17] <hbraun> hehe[17:06:26] <hbraun> i have to remember that one[17:06:34] <bstansberry> luckily john said something humorous so i wasn't laughing at him[17:06:41] <dmlloyd> as for JDBC driver version, first let's make our datasource config be non-absurd[17:06:47] <bstansberry> maxandersen: do people actually validate?[17:06:56] <hbraun> dmlloyd: +1[17:07:05] <hbraun> make it usable, please[17:07:07] <maxandersen> bstansberry: not so much validation as code completion.[17:07:17] <dmlloyd> it can only be described in unflattering terms[17:07:47] <maxandersen> bstansberry: looking at standalone.xml i don't see location info anyway ? which part are you actually talking about removing?[17:07:53] <maeste> hbraun: are you referring to drivername#version, right?[17:07:57] <hbraun> dmlloyd: we are joking, but IMO this one is blocker for CR1[17:08:05] <hbraun> maeste: yes[17:08:12] <bstansberry> maxandersen: in the root element, xsi:schema-location attribute[17:08:16] <dmlloyd> it should be in a separate attribute for one thing[17:08:18] <hbraun> maeste: I don't really understand the need for it[17:08:33] <maxandersen> bstansberry: that aint in standalone.xml[17:08:37] <maxandersen> its in domain.xml though[17:08:37] <dmlloyd> <driver class="org.foo.Bar" version="1.1"/> where version is *optional* unless there are more than one version of the same driver deployed[17:08:42] <maeste> hbraun: it's there if you have more than one version of th driver deployed[17:08:52] <dmlloyd> and we need a smarter way to detect Driver, DataSource and XADataSource classes in deployments too[17:09:09] <hbraun> maeste: bit it's an atribute we did invent, no?[17:09:15] <dmlloyd> no hbraun[17:09:19] <hbraun> maeste: or does it derive from the JDBC specs[17:09:22] <bstansberry> maxandersen: it's in my standalone.xml[17:09:53] <hbraun> dmlloyd: no as in "it#s part of the spec"?[17:09:57] *** sannegrinovero has joined #jboss-as7[17:09:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sannegrinovero[17:10:00] <dmlloyd> http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/sql/Driver.html#getMajorVersion()[17:10:01] <maxandersen> bstansberry: I can't spell apparently[17:10:27] <bstansberry> maxandersen: glad there's someone else like that[17:11:11] <maeste> dmlloyd: oki it makes sense, but it's just another way to express it as an attribute instead of part of the name. We are not removing it, just writing it more elegant :)[17:11:23] <dmlloyd> and making it optional[17:11:37] <maxandersen> bstansberry: so i need to check but it should be enough xmlns is consistent and declare the namespace then stuff can get validated assuming your editor is configured to map those namespaces to a schema.[17:11:57] <dmlloyd> might even do majorVersion=xs:int, minorVersion=xs:int if you want to be thorough[17:12:00] <maeste> dmlloyd: yup, make it optional is possible also on current notation. Making it optional is the real work anyway[17:12:05] <maxandersen> i.e. jbosstools could either bundle or point to online versions of these to provide validation and codecompletion based on that.[17:12:15] <dmlloyd> then you can make minor optional even if major is present[17:12:25] <kkhan> org.jboss.as.arquillian.container.managed.IntegrationTestCase is failing for me in master http://pastebin.com/vkF2c4kB[17:12:57] *** emuckenhuber has quit IRC[17:13:01] <maeste> dmlloyd: oki[17:13:23] <hbraun> maeste: another valuable modification would be a default value if there is only one driver[17:13:48] <maeste> hbraun: yup, it's what we are doing making it optional[17:14:06] <hbraun> maeste: great[17:14:14] <maeste> hbraun: oh you mean the whole driver tag?[17:14:20] <hbraun> maeste: i think that will simpify things a lot[17:14:23] <bstansberry> maxandersen: ok good[17:14:40] <hbraun> maeste: no[17:14:49] <maeste> hbraun: just version right?[17:14:52] <hbraun> maeste: i was speking of the version attribute[17:14:58] <hbraun> maeste: exactly[17:14:58] <maeste> hbraun: oki so we agree[17:15:29] <maxandersen> bstansberry: are the as7 xsd's planned to be using jboss.org/schema (http://community.jboss.org/wiki/JBossDTDs) ?[17:15:36] <hbraun> maeste: great. que giorno bello[17:15:51] <maeste> hbraun: lol[17:15:55] * bstansberry looks[17:16:07] <hbraun> maeste: or is it !"quel" ?[17:16:09] <maxandersen> only see http://www.jboss.org/schema/jbossas/ for now[17:16:16] <maeste> hbraun: quel[17:16:25] <maeste> hbraun: or "che"[17:16:32] <hbraun> maeste: yes, my italian is terrible[17:16:42] <maeste> hbraun: better than my German ;)[17:17:09] <frainone> kkhan: I'm seeing the same failure here[17:17:14] <hbraun> maeste: it's probably because munich is closer to milano, then the other way around[17:17:53] <bstansberry> maxandersen: yes. I don't see any reason not to[17:18:07] <hbraun> lol, i am full of nonsense today[17:18:13] <hbraun> don't ask me anything serious[17:20:01] <maeste> hbraun: lol[17:20:15] <asoldano> hbraun, maeste: lol[17:20:17] <maeste> hbraun: here you go AS7-711[17:20:18] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-711] Make a version attribute (optional) for driver tag instead the current parsed notation [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Stefano Maestri] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-711[17:20:33] <hbraun> maeste: tnx[17:20:48] <hbraun> dmlloyd: speaking of datasources[17:20:54] <kkhan> I am also getting errors when running the smoketests: http://pastebin.com/ZfrJhWqf[17:21:09] <hbraun> dmlloyd: a way to query for drivers on the domain level would be awesome[17:21:11] <maeste> hbraun: I'm interested too :)[17:21:29] <hbraun> dmlloyd: i mean to distinguish them from the other deployments[17:21:44] <hbraun> dmlloyd: so we can offer a choice to the user when creating new data sources[17:22:06] <hbraun> maeste: yes, I am asking you too[17:22:13] <maeste> hbraun: I guess both for driver defined at domain level and deployed ones[17:22:38] <hbraun> maeste: yes[17:23:14] <hbraun> currently you need to declare driver classes as string. same for the versin attribute[17:23:28] <hbraun> it#s complicated and error prone[17:23:29] <maeste> hbraun: yup the problem here was, if I well remember, to have a common registry of domain and deployed ones. dmlloyd : do I remember right?[17:24:26] *** emuckenhuber has joined #jboss-as7[17:24:26] *** emuckenhuber has joined #jboss-as7[17:24:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v emuckenhuber[17:24:47] <maxandersen> bstansberry: for you https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-713[17:24:48] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-713] Persist named deployment groups for reuse by clients [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Jason Greene] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-713[17:25:04] <bstansberry> maxandersen: thanks[17:25:09] <maxandersen> bstansberry: the topic we talked about yesterday. feel free to tell me if i'm completely of course ;)[17:25:27] *** sannegrinovero has quit IRC[17:25:50] <maxandersen> bstansberry: but just seems it would be bad if every client/management tooling would need to manage this common "state" differently for every deployment scenario[17:26:02] *** sebersole has joined #jboss-as7[17:26:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sebersole[17:28:10] <kkhan> My problems could be due to me having some java processes hanging around. It all passes now following a 'killall -9 java'[17:28:20] <bstansberry> maxandersen: the concept of it seems ok to me. it's some configuration; it doesn't seem like something that doesn't belong in domain.xml[17:29:42] <frainone> kkhan: I'll try that![17:31:48] <maxandersen> emuckenhuber: AS7-713 is what I were trying to explain/reason for at Max'Mouron last week ;)[17:31:48] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-713] Persist named deployment groups for reuse by clients [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Jason Greene] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-713[17:32:25] <jbossbot> git [jboss-as] push master 9050eee.. 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very cool[21:23:17] <bstansberry> I think this could map to domain mode fairly simply[21:23:22] * bstansberry thinks out loud[21:24:04] <bstansberry> arquillian has "container configurations" and those most naturally map to 1 process per container[21:24:24] <bstansberry> but they work based off a configuration bean which can expose any properties[21:25:00] <bstansberry> so, for domain mode, those properties could include:[21:25:21] <bstansberry> 1) mgmt address/port for the DC[21:25:53] <bstansberry> 2) whatever ports etc are needed for containing the target server[21:26:35] <bstansberry> 3) flag whether the container needs to be started (only true for one container)[21:27:50] <bstansberry> 4) some control for whether deploy ops should execute against a given container[21:28:32] <bstansberry> e.g. for 4) assume there are 2 servers in a server group; there would be a container for each, but deployment means deploy to the group, so you don't want to deploy twice[21:28:40] *** smarlow has quit IRC[21:29:04] <bstansberry> in 2) s/containing the target/contacting the target[21:32:32] *** bstansberry has quit IRC[21:34:37] <nickarls> would it be possible/feasible to build a vfs module that would work against a DB?[21:34:48] <nickarls> so you could deploy your WAR in a BLOB? ;-)[21:35:26] *** jdcasey has quit IRC[21:35:32] <nickarls> sorry I interrupted your monologue[21:42:05] *** kkhan has quit IRC[21:43:45] *** kkhan has joined #jboss-as7[21:43:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v kkhan[21:51:10] *** maxandersen has joined #jboss-as7[21:51:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v maxandersen[21:54:08] *** ccrouch has quit IRC[21:56:59] *** pil-afk has quit IRC[22:02:50] *** kkhan has quit IRC[22:04:31] *** kkhan has joined #jboss-as7[22:04:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v kkhan[22:05:51] *** kkhan has quit IRC[22:09:09] *** sebersole has quit IRC[22:16:19] *** pferraro has joined #jboss-as7[22:16:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v pferraro[22:21:11] *** pferraro has quit IRC[22:45:37] *** emuckenhuber has left #jboss-as7[22:57:07] *** opalka has quit IRC[22:57:23] *** galderz has joined #jboss-as7[22:57:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v galderz[22:57:35] *** galderz has quit IRC[22:57:54] *** irooskov has joined #jboss-as7[22:59:16] *** mmoyses has quit IRC[22:59:18] *** maxandersen has quit IRC[23:02:50] *** misty has joined #jboss-as7[23:17:46] *** maxandersen has joined #jboss-as7[23:17:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v maxandersen[23:25:36] *** maxandersen has quit IRC[23:26:01] *** maxandersen has joined #jboss-as7[23:26:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v maxandersen[23:31:50] *** maxandersen has quit IRC[23:59:55] <stuartdouglas> morning