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[16:12:27] <igork> LeftWing: ping
[16:12:49] <igork> LeftWing: i think my info can be interest to you :)
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[16:43:58] <denk> indeed
[16:44:30] <denk> LeftWing, nahamu, thank you for the hints, you helped very well, thanks
[16:44:55] <nahamu> Glad you figured it out. What was the solution?
[16:45:25] <denk> I think, igork explains it better
[16:45:58] <igork> will wait LeftWing :)
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[16:55:34] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9164 assert: newds == os->os_dsl_dataset -- Andriy Gapon <avg at FreeBSD dot org>
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[17:50:02] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9166 zfs storage pool checkpoint -- Serapheim Dimitropoulos <serapheim.dimitro at delphix dot com>
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[19:14:39] <Woodstock> richlowe: do you happen to know what it means, and how to avoid it?
[19:15:20] <richlowe> It's using TLS in a way it shouldn't.
[19:15:35] <igork> what is gcc version?
[19:15:37] <richlowe> I seem to recall it being a TLS model thing in the compiler configuration.
[19:15:54] <igork> and probably depend on gcc bootstrap
[19:15:55] <richlowe> Woodstock: the "new" way requires collaboration from the runtime
[19:16:16] <richlowe> Woodstock: don't use the 'gnu2' tls-dialect
[19:16:47] <richlowe> (-mtls-dialect=), or better, change whatever makes it default poorly
[19:16:51] <Woodstock> igork: gcc 6 from OI
[19:17:07] <Woodstock> hm
[19:17:15] <richlowe> I think the ones you want are either 'sun' or 'gnu'
[19:17:17] <richlowe> but certainly not gnu2
[19:17:20] <richlowe> alarcher and the OI folks know more
[19:17:42] <Woodstock> thanks
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[19:18:54] <rmustacc> richlowe: Is the new way something we should be looking at?
[19:18:55] <igork> i remember similar issues and found some hints to use
[19:18:55] <igork> CONFIGURE_OPTIONS += --enable-tls
[19:18:55] <igork> CONFIGURE_OPTIONS += --enable-threads=posix
[19:19:10] <igork> it was helped with some userland ports
[19:19:12] <richlowe> rmustacc: it might be, I haven't looked in any real detail.
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[19:19:32] <richlowe> rmustacc: I just recall looking for alarcher, and the 'gnu2' model expects thunks that can do things we don't/can't.
[19:20:41] <igork> Woodstock: options i have provided for gcc6 bootstrap
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[19:57:23] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9260 nsmb driver 32-bit ioctl check broken after 8685 -- Gordon Ross <gwr at nexenta dot com>
[20:05:07] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9173 smbsrv: we do not build all -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[20:12:36] <igork> question about
[20:12:36] <igork> SATA;c4t1d0;INTEL;SSDSC2BB120G6;-;120034123776;??-S;-1,-1
[20:12:50] <igork> why here double ??
[20:13:12] <igork> if i correct - it should be --
[20:13:24] <igork> instead of '??'
[20:14:09] <richlowe> difference between not being on, and not being there?
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[20:14:34] <igork> chassis with 2 sata ssd
[20:14:39] <igork> + LSI
[20:15:03] <richlowe> Right, but they're tristate
[20:15:05] <igork> all LSI drives are ses - and fine detected
[20:15:37] <igork> ssd drives was detected and 'S' present
[20:15:38] <richlowe> which I think means they report '-' from off, <char> for on, and ? for not-actually-supported
[20:15:50] <igork> ah, probably yes
[20:16:11] <igork> but i think '?' by mistake
[20:16:46] <igork> i have no found in diskinfo code where we put '?' char
[20:16:58] <richlowe> line 107
[20:17:40] <igork> thanks
[20:19:02] <rmustacc> That is correct, because we do not have LEDs wired up for those devices in FMA.
[20:20:36] <igork> interest info about F = FALTED. these drives are in zpool and all services are fine - read/write/scrub
[20:20:55] <igork> but i can see mark FLT on drives
[20:21:02] <igork> how it was detected?
[20:21:09] <LeftWing> You would need to look at FMA
[20:21:16] <igork> ok
[20:22:04] <igork> LeftWing: while you are there - we have found interest issue with 'reboot'
[20:22:19] <igork> smf services works fine with 'init 6'
[20:22:32] <igork> we can see 'stop' action pass
[20:22:47] <igork> and our service works find with zpool export
[20:23:09] <igork> but - with 'reboot' - we couldn't see 'stop' action passed
[20:23:28] <igork> probably it is issue with cmd/halt
[20:25:28] <igork> cmd/halt is using libscf and operate with smf directly and drop it
[20:26:08] <igork> we can see 2 issues: reboot and poweroff
[20:26:55] <igork> if we use 'init 6' & 'init 5' instead of 'reboot' & 'pweroff' - we are fine with services - 'stop' action is working fine
[20:26:59] <tsoome> reboot/halt/poweroff is the same binary
[20:27:14] <igork> but not init :)
[20:27:39] <tsoome> of course not. and init does behave a bit differently in any case.
[20:27:47] <igork> tsoome: as you can see - i pointed to cmd/halt - and i know where they are
[20:28:00] <igork> and yes - i know about init
[20:28:23] <rmustacc> Yes, reboot explicitly says it does not do this in the manual pge.
[20:28:26] <rmustacc> \*page
[20:28:49] <LeftWing> So, what's exciting is that reboot(1M) effectively uses a job control stop (SIGSTOP) to cause svc.startd not to work anymore
[20:29:01] <LeftWing> Which means it can't be the SMF method taking down the network
[20:29:01] <igork> but - if you try to use 'reboot' and 'poweroff' - they are not start 'stop' action on smf services
[20:29:09] <LeftWing> Well, right, they're not really supposed to
[20:29:10] <rmustacc> igork: Correct, that's the intended design today.
[20:29:26] <igork> ok, thanks for confirmation, i'm not wrong with it
[20:29:28] <LeftWing> reboot is supposed to reboot without doing all that basically pointless effort
[20:29:35] <LeftWing> But it's not supposed to then hang
[20:29:49] <LeftWing> And indeed it doesn't with NFS mounts, so you should debug why it happens with your iSCSI thing
[20:29:54] <igork> LeftWing: it was hang with zpool
[20:29:54] <rmustacc> The shutdown command can be used to change the state and thenw ait for a while.
[20:30:07] <igork> it is not iscsi issue - it is zpool
[20:30:13] <LeftWing> I can't do this anymore.
[20:30:28] * LeftWing goes to lunch &
[20:30:29] <igork> it try to work with vdev and they are not working over network
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[20:31:19] <igork> NFS mount - it is another story - where you can use 'umount -f' for mount
[20:31:37] <igork> it is not similar to zpool issue with vdevs
[20:32:03] <LeftWing> In the reboot case, as you've noted, the SMF service doesn't GET to run "umount -f"
[20:32:19] <LeftWing> Because we hobbled the restarter
[20:32:42] <igork> yes - not it is NOT the same with zpool
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[20:32:56] <LeftWing> It truly, madly, deeply is
[20:32:58] <igork> zfs hung on with vdevs
[20:33:06] <tsoome> if you kill your network, the iscsi is out and anything else with it. same with NFS. so killing network is bad and is therefore bug.
[20:33:13] <LeftWing> In that you've used uadmin() to ask the kernel to reboot
[20:33:26] <LeftWing> With a mounted file system that needs to speak over IP in order to sync
[20:33:37] <LeftWing> You need to figure out why that's OK for NFS, and not for your zpool
[20:33:51] <LeftWing> This probably occurs with UFS on top of iSCSI too
[20:34:05] <igork> LeftWing: do you know how is working zfs ? :)
[20:34:10] <igork> and what is it ARC ? :)
[20:34:15] <igork> and why you need sync
[20:34:22] <igork> before reboot
[20:35:18] <LeftWing> Because we always sync the file system before reboot
[20:35:28] <LeftWing> Unless you use "reboot -n"
[20:35:32] <LeftWing> But that's super dangerous
[20:35:32] <igork> yes :)
[20:35:52] <LeftWing> Anyway, the short answer is: you've made the choice to do this, _you need to debug it_
[20:36:00] <LeftWing> And I'm going to lunch.
[20:36:08] <igork> i just wanted let you know - we found issue
[20:36:12] <igork> nothing else :)
[20:39:09] <tsoome> um, we have issue database for that:)
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[20:41:35] <igork> tsoome: it is NOT issue for issue database :) it was issue for our usecases
[20:42:06] <igork> where we need correct operate with smf start/stop services where we have network drives
[20:42:43] <igork> it was issue with understanding how is working reboot/poweroff
[20:46:35] <Woodstock> richlowe: it works with neither gnu nor sun, sun isn't even supported
[20:46:54] <richlowe> Hm.
[20:47:00] <richlowe> I'm pretty sure when alarcher was seeing that it was the gnu2 thing.
[20:47:21] <richlowe> from what I recall looking in ld, you really can't use the TLS model it's trying to use in the case it's trying to use it.
[21:02:01] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8980 BIOS clock is sometimes one hour fast -- Gary Mills <gary_mills at fastmail dot fm>
[21:10:32] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8808 nvme: Software Progress Marker feature is optional -- Yuri Pankov <yuri.pankov at nexenta dot com>
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